Who gets the FINAL F1 seat for 2025?
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- Matt and Tommy discuss who will get the final seat at Sauber for next year...
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Thank you for pointing this out @gameofender4463, and a HUGE congratulations to Matt and Tom. Love your podcast!!
I think 2025 F1 Driver Lineup looked absolutely stacked.
RPM beat them there dispite not posting any vids.
@@Antony-w3lawww u wanted that heart ❤️ & likes I see. Touch luck
Being a reserve driver and F2 champ and having zero chance at a drive is exactly what's wrong with current F1
Yep. Seems like F1's current restriction is very strict at the moment.
if his private testing and sim times were competitive he would get a seat. Not only in F1 but maybe in Indy. Drugo just did an Indy test and wowed them and will have options. Where as Theo is actively looking for a seat there and there is little interest
I mean there’s very little that can be done, there’s only 10 teams on the grid and drivers don’t get killed or badly injured like they used to do, thus driver turnover is incredibly low now
@@NmorenI think it's less of driver's getting injured/killed and more that driver's stay in the sport for way longer. Looks like most of the grid wants to stay in their late 30s (Max I think only exception) and if they start with 18-20 they are in the sport for 20 years. That's just too long when there are only 20 seats to get lots of rookies in.
@@batandy23that’s the thing, not many of these guys want to go the Indy route.
I'm surprised you guys mentioned Pourchaire. I've heard more about Schumacher than Pourchaire in the media.
which is so sad. Because hes as good of an F1 prospect as u can get
Look up Binotto's take on MSC and you will see why he is not here...
@@MO-rl9glPourchaire may got an F1 seat in probably 2029.
it's just the german press trying to fish for clicks. Mick has never been the number 1 choice for Audi. literally every article in german media about the F1 driver market somehow ends with "and how does this influence Mick Schumacher?" as if he was the only driver looking for a seat.
@@LathropLdST Care to elaborate?
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6:14 Sauber will be terrible in 2025, so you don’t risk points by tossing in a junior who then has a full season to prepare for 2026. It’s both rational & good for the sport.
I agree, on the other hand you are loosing the experience of an experienced F1 driver that you can use to develop the car for next seasons.
@@fakee7744 But they already have an experienced driver in Hulkenburg and I don't see why they need another one, it just seems like such a cowardly decision.
Well done on 500k!
I think the main reason Bottas doesn't have a contract yet is because I'm pretty sure he simply doesn't want single year contracts after how he was treated at Mercedes. Can't really blame him for that, but it might cost him his seat.
Yes, sure he's not too keen to sign for just one year to drive that wheelie bin only to be replaced when Audi and the new regs arrive. But ultimately he may have no choice but that.
I am not surviving the break 😢
Well there's another 3 week break after these races
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I feel like I'm already dying, at least we got some copium from Matt and Tommy. That makes the pain bearable.😅😅😅
Atleast untill then in COTA it's still we have Motogp and it also in crazy title fight again like always but in thoes races in Indonesia and Japan and Australia in my time is early in the morning lol
Darwinism
Clearly Gutiérrez is their man to complete the 2013 reunion.
Nah... Felipe Nasr 😄
Theo pourchaire is like Mick Schumacher, everyone puts him in but nobody really thinks he will have a chance
Poor Poor chair..
- Bottas
- Pourchaire
- Mick Schumacher
- Colapinto
- Bortoleto
Mick is hot garbage let's be real
Switch mick and calapinto. Mick struggled from the get-go, calapinto hasn't
@@FrayedACCL this is a list, not a ranking
It's a hard time having a longer break than the first break after only a handful of races
Bottas is most likely. Followed by Colapinto, Bortoleto, Pourchaire, Zhou in this order imo
Drop Bottas to make way for Bortoleto/Colapinto.
Anyone feel like their ratings should add up to 10? 5/10 means a 50% chance, 9/10 means a 90% chance etc
that's what it means though
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Congrats for reaching 500K!!!
Tommy calling Bottas boring is the pot calling the kettle black 😂
You could have built a probability pie chart for this format - at halfway through Tommy is already at a 21/10 when combining the scores :D
It almost seems like it would be good to have another championship in-between f1 and f2 with all this new talent that has nowhere to go. Maybe using the f1 championship winning car from the previous regulations as the spec car for the series
No such thing as "not wanting an F1 seat". If you're offered it, you take it, unless there is a Piastri-Alpine situation of the possibility of a better seat.
Colapinto with KICK SAUBER alongside Hulkenberg could be a nice choice.
One thing is true about F1. It's better to drive a terrible car than no car at all. If you doubt it, ask Pouchaire or Drugovich
The sprint races should be contested by reserve/youth/developement drivers. The points for those races should still go towards the constructors championship
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Wow 500K in just under 2 years is amazing. Congrats 🎉🎉
I managed to watch this before announcement, yeees! Thank you guys
Bortoleto winning F3 as a rookie and potentially winning F2 as a rookie, just as Charles, Piastri and so many others... and he still has to prove himself? LMAO
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I'm just here now for the unhinged openers
The intro are getting better and better =D
Please be colapinto please
He deserves it
I want him next to sainz so bad
Nah he deserves a better team@@zombiekilla25979
Colapinto deserves a better team. Sauber is slow as hell. It's not even an f1 car. They're currently f1.5 now
its to set up for audi
Do we need to see Bottas in the Sauber again? Perhaps a new driver should get a chance.
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Congrats on 500k subs, boys!
Half a million amazing proud of you both and thanks to all the amazing supporters 👍👍💜
Oh and no more Autumn breaks ever. I do think you guy's were right. They had a planned race fall through.
Huge congrats on 500K subs!!!
It’s always fascinating how much luck plays a role in the driver market. You miss out on a drive two years in a row and it’s basically never going to happen. Andretti, anyone??
500k subs in 1.5 years for a purely sport info channel is quite amazing, congrats!
An unlikely candidate is mick schumacher since audi might want a german lineup
I think they are happy with having just one German
unlikely is the point here. Mick was never Audi's favorite candidate, even though the german press is working overtime to make it look like that. they should give the seat to Franco Colapinto anyway so it's all good
Matt putting zhou above pourchaire is crazy.
I'm here for the opening puns
10:04 You've not been watching the news. Vowles has already offered Colapinto to Sauber for next year, there'd be no "dragging" involved.
source?
@@matfoster5938 there are multiple, but the most recent article about it is from Fernando Romero Nuñez posted on October 1. Vowles confirms that he's in talks with Sauber to loan Colapinto out for 2025. You can find it on the website of the Buenos Aires Herald.
I´d like to see all the rookies together in the grid next year, Kimi, Ollie, Doohan, Lawson, Colapinto, we need refreshing F1
just imagine: 1/5th or 1/4th of the grid new kids on the block (depending on that last seat...) that's 20-25%.. I say whoopwhoop to that
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I'm surprised Bottas is so highly rated, I think if they were going to go with Bottas then they would have already signed a 1 year deal with him
Congrats on 500 000 :)
Happy 500k, here’s to 500k more 🙏
Francolapinto.
He's proved himself in F1 already. Give him a full shot!
Pourchaire competed well in Indycar this year despite the way McLaren treated him.
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I think bottas is gonna retire at the end of this season.
what's that new catchphrase "keep pushing in the gym" lol
4:05 Gabriel Bottleletto if he bins it a few times
Discussions like these are great arguments for why F1 needs more teams on the grid.
Also, let us not forget that Zhou Guanyou is the guy that kept Oscar Piastri out of a seat ...
Thank you Matt and Tommy for keeping it real. As much as the opportunity of having an Argentine driver in F1 thrills me, and fills my head with unreal exciting expectations, you are right to give Franco a 50-60% chance. I agree that going to Sauber will be a waste, so I rather Williams keep him sidelined unless another good team, even Red Bull gives him a chance now, but I just don't see it. By the way, you can thank Colapinto for me finding you, and subscribing, on TH-cam. Congrats on 500K intelligent (if I may) subscribers.
500k! Whooooo!
This weird sequence of brakes is killing me
Can’t wait to see you guys in Toronto 🇨🇦
Breaks no problem for me there’s lots of fine junior series racing.
500k !!! congrats guys!! may there be many many more you totally deserve it!
So according to Tommy there is a 150% chance that either Pourchaire or Bottas gets the seat. I'm sorry but that doesn't quite seem right😅.
I'm confused why noone talks about Shwartzman. Not that I think it's the best option, but he drove the car in FP1 this year, I see signing him more probable that Theo, as he is really a forgotten guy.
I think they should change F2, so if a driver wins the championship then they can race the next year but they have to change F2 teams. And limit championship wins to two not one before someone leaves.
So if the F1 team wants to avoid losing an F2 driver they have to make a decision to offer them something after their first championship win. And if they don't act the driver has another chance with a different team.
that's interesting thought!
Tommy.EXE mafunctioned near the end 😂
If Zhou stays it’ll only be cause Audi wants to sell more cars in China… harsh but true
Randomly the driver I believe was on the scene at the wrong time to get a seat was Callum Ilott, seemed like a great talent but never got a chance to get a seat
Congrats on that 500K. Any seat in F1 is better than no seat in F1 just ask Liam Lawson
I hope Audi looks at all the accelling rookies and gives the seat to Teddy. Dudes been through the ringer this year and it'd be nice to see him catch a W.
Id love to see a podcast about the gap between F2 and F1, it seems huge, but I have to admit I dont know enough about F2.
I think they'll go with Bottas with Bortoleto as the reserve driver. They don't want drivers on loan and Williams surely won't hand them Colapinto.
If Dani Ric comes back via Sauber and Sauber Audi? What a story that would be
Congratulations on 500k subs
This break is bruuuuutal! I'm depressed!
listened to this on spotify, came for tommys final thoughts
mick might be in the list 😋
you never know
he is but he's not above Colapinto and Bottas
@@NeonColored but audi might go with all german lineup
Main reason I don't think Colapinto will be driving for them is that Williams are going to be feeling more confident due to their recent resurgence to the middle of the pack, and looking to build a bit more towards the future. On top of that, both Albon/Sainz have (I think?) contracts ending in 2026. They may not be able to keep Sainz if he does well, & if he underperforms they may want to simply replace him anyway (Albon seems fairly locked in for them, though who knows 2 years from now!).
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I had no idea that in F2, if you reach the pinnacle, you're finished in the sport. What a disincentive! Colapinto.
I didn't realise that either, it's something that perhaps should be looked at and changed one way or another.. I think Liam Lawson did F2 then went to drive Super Formula for a season, in Japan. I'm told that it's very fast, faster than F2 and very high level....
No surprise older people face job discrimination, Bottas, who hasn’t put a foot wrong but is still being pushed out simply due to his age and for being "boring"
Part of me really wants Bortoleto in that Sauber seat. He’s a brilliant talent. The other part however does not want to see him fighting to stay off of last place in a shitty Sauber car.
What about the news that says bortoleto and Bottas are more likely to the seat? The formula racers even said bortoleto was leading
I reckon it could/should be Franco Colapinto
Its 85 percent likely we got Colapinto in a fulltime seat in next year. If not, might be 2026.
Mika Hakken will come back from sabbatical!
Congrats on the 500k subscribers but……..HERE COMES SEBASTIAN VETTEL!!
Its gna be whoever brings steak the most money for the last year imo
The fact i would rather have Bortoleto in the Sauber seat if the choice is only between him and Bottas.
4:33 I heard Mclaren are allowing Bortoleto’s team to talk to Audi about a loan?
It is kind of interesting to me that Schumacher isn't making these lists (not just you guys but other channels too). Personally, I agree that Bottas is the only real option given how much of a rusty tractor the Sauber is and the need to fix it quickly. It also feels like a huge injustice to Bottas that they are clearly thinking a driver change could help the situation. If I were Sauber I would have signed him until the end of 2026 already, the team needs stability and development, you can add young talent in later and with Hulk + Bottas being older they are both short to mid-term prospected already so you aren't betting the house on them anyway.
Theo DESERVES seat,
Franco EARNED seat,
So either one’s PERFECT!
Funny how Matt and Tommy got WTF1 to a million subs, went on to do their own thing and now they have half a mill and WTF1 is only up to 1.04m
How about Frederik Vesti
i mean- McLaren might be open to let Bortoleto drive for Sauber with the option to have him join McLaren whenever they need him
bit similar to George in his Williams time being Mercedes resevre and junior
Either Bottas or Bortoleto. In critical situation they will take Colapinto
For me, either Gabriel Bortoleto or Franco Colapinto...
Might be Colapinto. Colapinto performed incredibly on his first 4 races at Williams.
it has to be Colapinto. Bortoleto is a good driver and all but F1 experience > F2 results
The sad thing is that all of these guys (except Zhou), and others like Drugovich, who is in a similar situation as Pourchaire, deserve a seat, and only one will get it.
Why did my notifications get switched off? Dang TH-cam. You guys are doing a good job, keep it up.
Pourchaire or Colapinto leaning on Pourchaire please.
When will the video be there about Alpine becoming Andretti for 2026? 😂