Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport - THE LEGEND (History&Ops)

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  • This is a video of old Hong Kong, legendary Kai Tak airport. Since it is the first (intro) video of many hours of footage, we call it pilot. If you are not familiar, or if you don’t know what EXACTLY Kai-Tak airport was, you MUST watch this video before any of the rest of the playlist.
    Apart of historical information there are a lot of operational procedures and detailed IGS runway 13 instrument landing procedure explanation.
    There is also a lot of missing information we hope to collect and update on a future video.
    On the rest of the videos you will find additional information, such as individual company minima regarding Kai Tak, the unique lighting system and more details.
    The footage was filmed during summer of 1996 and 1997.
    Notes of missing information as marked on the video (0:00)
    1. (at 04:10) We know the date of opening of the new runway 13/31. Which was the first landing on the new 13/31?
    2*. (at 07:00) What was the instrument procedure before IGS13 in 1974? We are looking for a chart!
    3. (at 10:30) WAS (and if yes, HOW) ICB used as visual aid? On which procedure? (charts?)
    4. (at 13:30) We are looking for a recording of this repetitive message
    5. (at 21:00) Here we have two questions. a) Details for the incident? b) Is there any chart of any other details for this procedure?
    *Note 2: There is a video of Swissair Convair 990 landing performing NDB approach before 1974 with 90 degrees turn! So it was not imposible as voice over says. • Kai Tak IGS mit Swissa...
    Any other booklets and/or company minima information of any airline regarding Kai Tak flights will be much appreciated.
    Kai Tak video library
    Pilot Video: • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport - THE LEGEND (History&Ops)
    Vol#1 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #1 (Real ATC Comms)
    Vol#2 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #2
    Vol#3 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #3
    Vol#4 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #4
    Vol#5 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #5 (Underground...)
    Vol#6 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #6 (Trijets Madness)
    Vol#7 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #7
    Vol#8 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #8
    Vol#9 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #9 - 747SP and UAL 744 X-Treme IGS
    Vol#10 • Hong Kong Kai Tak Airp... - Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport in action #10 - Visual Step Down Approach
    Credits & Resources
    www.cad.gov.hk/english/kaitak.html
    macaudailytimes.com.mo/old-hk-airport-turned-into-billions-worth-of-luxury-condos.html
    industrialhistoryhk.org/kai-tak-airport-1925-1945-brief-history/
    hongwrong.com/kai-tak-airport-photos/
    gwulo.com/kai-tak-airport-history
    Wings Over Hong Kong - A tribute to Kai Tak
    Airobillia - Historical Images
    Qantas Media
    #kaitakairport #hongkongkaitak #kaitak
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  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I flew into Kai Tak dozens of times starting in 1981 and it was always a wild ride. In the early days we took the DC 10 out of Seattle and had to refuel in either Seoul or Narita. Later on the 747 was a non stop 17 hour grind. Had some pretty wild rides when it was stormy, and once had to divert to Taipei and wait overnight. The final approach was always a thrill as you could look into the windows of people's apartments during that last steep turn.

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I say to my young spotters friends, that if you been in Kai Tak, you may stop spotting. There is nothing more to see. I visit HKG after 2000 several times but i cannot go to the place of the old airport.

    • @peterryan8472
      @peterryan8472 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We used to sit up above the chequer board on a Sunday afternoon and watch the planes turn into Kai Tak. The Cathay planes always took the turn latest and then did not need to readjust prior to landing. Locals know best. 🥸

    • @Sidiqi
      @Sidiqi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      From my experience only the original Airport in Amman Jordan can compare with the final descent able to look into peoples homes. My grateful thanks to the skill of the Pilots.

  • @andrewlorenz3139
    @andrewlorenz3139 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Flew in in 1987 in the dark. Watching out for people in their homes watching TV etc. Spoke to an air steward many years later about shared experiences. When we got on to Kai Tak he just agreed that a landing there was always an interesting experience.

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, after so many years i still can feel the heat, the huminity and the noise of jet egines above the rooftops.

  • @QuicknStraight
    @QuicknStraight 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lived there for 9 years, from 1988-97, and flew in and out many times. Including a few departures on Runway 31, before they banned those departures. Lived in an apartment in Kowloon Tong for a couple of those years, too, and could sit on the balcony and watch the aircraft literally flying straight towards our building before making the final right turn and then had a view almost down the runway. Spectacular viewing!

  • @fotonovella
    @fotonovella 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very well made, a great video contribution to commercial-aviation history. Thanks, guys.

  • @kostaskarageorgis3810
    @kostaskarageorgis3810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great footage of KaiTak airport..!!..I feel blessed that i managed to visit this spectacular airport...every spotters dream...!!

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The most spectacular ever in aviation history.

  • @brucewayne3602
    @brucewayne3602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    beyond bloody brilliant --- rekindling precious memories ... Thankyou --- Kai Tak an absolute Legend !!!

  • @gilliancruickshank7957
    @gilliancruickshank7957 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I flew in there about 6 times. I adored the landing.

  • @davskol
    @davskol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Most informative Kai Tak video on youtube! Great work! I want to go back to 1997 reliving the airport I flew to and from twice....

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! We hope to collect more info for a possible updated version.

  • @spdaltid
    @spdaltid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I learned a new term "ICB" from this video. Also, the visual stepdown was a separate procedure to offsetting.
    On this approach, which I flew many times, I rarely looked directly for the Checkerboard. I was aware of it peripherally while using more important visual cues to follow the ground track to align with the runway. You're correct, if cloudbase and visibility allowed, it was advantageous to offset left to allow a longer final segment, usually ending up with the turn initiated prior to passing through about 1 dot left & 1 dot high at the middle marker. This was particularly the case during a typhoon - we tended to land off many such approaches before newer GPWS windshear enhancements triggered mandatory go-arounds.
    Probably the most challenging condition was a low cloud/ visibility night arrival in typhoon conditions with a SW wind. This threatened to push the turn wide. Easterly winds [approaching typhoon] gave the bumpiest ride in the lee of the proximate hills. While the turn was easier to gauge, the speed variances had to be anticipated with thrust and vertical path management; usually a speed loss passing through the downwind area of the checkerboard, followed by a strong venturi effect speed increase and then reduction into the flare initiation. Finally, correct crosswind landing and rollout technique. This sequence happenned quite rapidly: Challenging, but satisfying to get right.

  • @anjinsanx44
    @anjinsanx44 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great doc!!!! Love it! Thank u

  • @jm2069
    @jm2069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done sir!

  • @jeremyroberts39
    @jeremyroberts39 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved flying via the chequer board...... something very special. Like the Star Ferry it WAS Hong Kong (as well as Stanley Market) God bless HK

  • @4IN14094
    @4IN14094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @22:50 Due to the fact that the checkerboard hill is not totally inline with the runway(some 500ft away from centerline), this NDB approach was probably be approved only with very strict weather and visibility condition and the aircraft would be vectored into the final anyways, given its NDB nature there probably won't be any chart, there might had been written procedure in CX/DA SOP or inside CAD archives that have since removed after Kaitak closure, only god knows if it ever exist now.

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i am trying to find a copy of those old SOPs from former pilots but no luck by now.

    • @ronaldrugel182
      @ronaldrugel182 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@11AviationVideos The initial approach was an ILS toward the checkerboard. The pilot had to go visual at about 650ft AGL (as I recall), then follow the flashing approach lights (no autopilot) into about a 45 degree right descending turn to line up with the runway. The pilot had about 13 seconds between leveling the plane and touching down.

  • @lalhiranand6866
    @lalhiranand6866 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SIR HO KAI AND AU TAK

  • @davskol
    @davskol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've read that the freight terminal reopened for a few months in 1998 due to logistical problems at Chek Lap Kok.
    So did freight planes land at Kai Tak or was it just the sorting facility that was reopened? Why did I just Tak 3 photos of planes landing and flying over Kowloon in 1997? Stupid me...

    • @speedbirdconcorde001
      @speedbirdconcorde001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      -Yes, cargo planes landed at Kai Tak, and it relieved the burden on Chek Lap Kok.- During the time when it was re-opened, it was assigned code "VHHX" as the new airport took its old code of "VHHH". This temporary arrangement ended in August when all cargo flights were consolidated and handled by HACTL.
      Edit: See my other reply

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@speedbirdconcorde001 so VHHX operated till August (as extension) for cargo flights!? Anyone has any idea where to find a list of those flights?

    • @speedbirdconcorde001
      @speedbirdconcorde001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@11AviationVideos Good question. I asked some senior captains who have been flying for CX since the mid-90s, and they mentioned that Kai Tak (KT) would've been impossible to reopen since there'd be no one to control the airspace. KT and CLK did operate together between 2-6 July. Bill Clinton (AF1) also flew into CLK before it's opening, while the C-5 Galaxy went to KT. From what I heard, its wingspan was so large that runway 13/31 was temporarily closed when it was taxiing on B1.
      Whereas I also found another article from a pilot who claims that he landed a cargo flight at the deserted airport after it had closed.
      My best guess is that the cargo was offloaded but remained at HACTL; the tags scanned and sent to KT for electronic sorting. After all, it was only a system glitch at CLK, not a mechanical failure.
      Lastly, there exists a section of runway including portions of taxiway B1 that I have walked on. Sadly, due to the construction of the isolation facility, some parts have been dug up.

    • @4IN14094
      @4IN14094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@11AviationVideos While the airport was still functional with a skeleton crew at tower and control room for emergency, all control and aircraft was handled at CLK(in fact the control room at CLK have already taken over many months before the closure), cargo flight would land on CLK, cargo first offloaded to ground for basic checks like custom or sorting, then either process locally at the new cargo terminal or be consolidated and transport to the old facilities at Kai Tak for further processing.

  • @WinginWolf
    @WinginWolf หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:40 HAHAHAH. "For the passengers... the nightmare begins"!

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, i see it on the next row during my landing

  • @ericinformosa6709
    @ericinformosa6709 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    About your comment that Jetliners were not able to make the NDB approach before 1974; here a Swiss video of a Swiss Convair Coronado arrival through CC, Green Island, Stone Cutters, up the hills, and a big swing towards the runway. Final approach speed of 155knts.
    Interesting pilot arrival briefing around a big mock-up of Hong Kong.
    th-cam.com/video/Iqnit5PXZIo/w-d-xo.html

    • @11AviationVideos
      @11AviationVideos  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much you the link. We add it to the description of the video and also as card on note 2 in the video.

  • @WinginWolf
    @WinginWolf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol, what if they named it "Ho Au" xD . Kai Tak sounds wayy better.

  • @narabdela
    @narabdela 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Computer generated narration? Sorry, I'm outa here. 👎

  • @kendalljenkins9938
    @kendalljenkins9938 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    YOUUUU - TALK - VERY - FUNNY/FUNNY.
    ARE - YOU - A - ROBOT? I - AM - A - ROBOT.
    MAAAAYBE - WE - ARE - BROTHERS.