Damn straight. I got the SNES with Starwing (as it was known in PAL regions) for Christmas one year and my mind was blown. I'd hardly seen fully 3D graphics like that in arcades let alone in my very own living room!
Same, more so on PC for me though. The console ones always really struggled, but the PC 3d of the time were usually competent making them more tolerable to explore imo.
I know the music in Virtua Racing is short and sparse but man do I LOVE IT. It immediately takes me back to those 32X days. Great episode as always Joe
Joe it's insane how the production quality and creativity of the show keeps soaring. Excellent first impression on the video. Loving it so far. Who knew you'd be even more handsome in low poly?
Joe: This game sets new records... Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: Ehyeeeeeeeeees??? Joe: For how fast it gets boring! Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: AWWWW
That Money For Nothing video must've been mind blowing with its 3D polygon graphics, the likes of which the public would never come close to experiencing in the home for at least ten years!
Great episode, Joe. I love early 3D graphics, particularly like stuff on the Amiga and megadrive (basically anything running a Motorola 68000 cpu). The chunky polygon voice over stuff was great too.
Randy Linden's SNES port of Doom is nothing short of impressive on a technical level knowing the hardware limits in place and how he pulled it off, the guy was an absolute wizard. He also did the impossible port of Dragon's Lair to the Amiga and created the Bleem PSX emulator.
And we've learned from him directly in recent times that it's even possible to pretty much double the frame-rate using HDMA properly too. So, look forward to seeing some hacker implement that at some point, if not Randy Linden himself.
SNES Doom is impressive for sure, though according to Randy Linden about 95% of the lifting is done with the SuperFX2. I joke that Doom was ported to the SuperFX2 and used the SNES for playback. As Joe alluded to the 16-bit micros did a lot with 3D. Shout-outs to, Hunter for having a full 3D world with NPCs who remember you and multiple driveable vehicles in 1991, Frontier for being everywhere and a sequel to the beloved Elite, and Zeewolf 2 for probably being the most technically impressive with its patchwork floor.
Also according to Randy Linden, by going back and using the SNES' built-in HDMA feature properly, he could basically double the frame-rate now from around 10 fps-15 fps to around 25 fps. And there's talk about doing exactly that.
Star Cruiser looks so much like what a first person Phantasy Star II would have looked like! The menus, setting, characters and overall graphical aesthetic scream PSII (with music that sounds like PSIV).
I love how Joe's reflection is showing up on the restaurant's window. Not only that, it's the opposite side of the 3D model. Talk about level of details.
The F1, F1 World Championship and Kawasaki Superbike Challenge are maybe my most impressive racing games with polygons on the Mega Drive, they run very smooth. I did have (and still have) Virtua Racing in the 90s, and I did play it a lot.
Yup, seconded, those games use raster graphics to draw the road but all complex roadside elements are drawn using polygons. This allows for a really high frame rate coupled with good looking immersive graphics. Those games deserve to be in a future 3D episode.
@@nekononiaow They are very playable, well, to be honest I have never finished them or anything, mostly just driven some laps now and then, but they are very playable it. Especially for such old console racing games. If I had them when new I would have played them alot probably, not that many old racing games have held up the best.. But there are some, like Outrun is the type of game I just try out, but end up just playing it some more..
@gamesack. Jimmy White is a legend in the UK. That game was originally an Amiga title. He was renowned for being the most unbelievably talented player but every time he got into a final, his nerves got to him and he would inevitably be out of his mind on booze and cocaine. I think he made 6 world championship finals and lost them all. I had the privilege of meeting him once. He's a lovely man. Gamesack is the best retro game channel on TH-cam by a mile. Keep going!
Really loved this episode and the low poly presentation was on point. Actually, pretty amazing any polygon games were done on the 16-bit systems. "Racing Aces" on the Sega CD uses polygons but the game play is really choppy. I have a reproduction cart of "RES Q" I play on real hardware, and I actually enjoyed that game. With all the visual tricks going on in the Genesis game "Red Zone" I would be surprised if polygons were not used in there somewhere. A game on the Sega Genesis which had a very impressive polygon game engine is "Kawasaki Superbike Challenge". With how smooth that game runs I am surprised that game engine was not used more. Thanks again for another great episode. Much appreciated!
@@ostiariusalpha Nice. I will have to track that F1 game down. A game engine that good needed to be exploited to its full potential. At least it was used twice.
@@StandingUpForBetter F1 did come first, so it's not quite as impressive as KSC. It does make you wonder what Domark's programmers could have squeezed out of the SVP chip if given the chance.
No, they superimposed a CGI figure over an actual dancer in the music video for "Days Go By" by Dirty Vegas. Seemed a little bit too extended of a sequence for "fair use," but I'm no lawyer.
Considering that the original arcade boards had a bunch of somewhat powerful TI chips to do the 3D graphics, its a miracle these Atari racers ran on stock Genesis and SNES hardware at all.
Draekken would absolutely slay in today's market if you slap in some better looking polygons and added meta-progression. Looks like a cool take on auto battlers!
I got really into these sorts of games a few years ago, mostly on the Genesis. A few you missed, off the top of my head: Formula One (AKA F1), F1 World Championship, and Kawasaki Super Bike Challenge. (Genesis versions specifically), and I think I all 3 use the same engine and are SUPER impressive (to me). Also, tank games. Just look up games where you drive a tank and you'll find a few on each system. Not as many as you will flight sims, but nearly. And often using flight sim engines. Best one that I've played being Garry Kitchen's Super Battletank. There's other oddball games like Red Zone, which is also really impressive (though the amount of actual 3D vs trickery is debatable). It definitely FEELS and looks 3D. Does that count? Heh.
Wow, another perfect episode. Thanks for constantly topping yourself. Im currently choreographing and practicing your sweet 16 bit polygonal dance moves.
One of the thhings I have always appreciated about your videos is the way you time everything with the beat of the music perfectly, from game transitions and including the final dance skit in this. That takes effort and it is appreciated :)
It really is a joy to watch these videos from start to end. Just watching the end is giving me the urge to…. DANCE! 😂 saucy tunes indeed Joe! Loved it all
I really like the genesis Domark racers. Kawasaki Superbike, and the two Formula One games (2nd euro only). I'd love to see more of these vids, since early polygon racers are 'my jam.'
that flashback game sack logo transition was hilarious, and what an amazing episode, boy this was creative as hell, kudos to the guy who did the 3d polygons!!
I'm suprised you didn't mention Faceball 2000 on the SNES and even the Game Boy (8-bit 3d!). I played throught the Game Boy version of Faceball 2000 and it was great fun shooting smiliods. A simple but fun first person shooter. It runs at a pretty nice 3-4 frames per second which for a simple game like it, it is perfectly playable!
I remember getting Stunt Race FX for my birthday and how much I disliked it at first. However, since I had to wait at least four months until Christmas before getting another game I had to spend some time with it, and after getting used to the game's physics it was actually a lot of fun. Great episode, as usual, thank you!
Vortex is great on the main level. The first is meant to be an easy introduction to the controls, and the last is hard as pure hell. Played it a ton, the soundscore definitely helped.
Another World was always one of those games that drew me in with it's atmosphere.. time to try and finally beat it. Thanks for another great episode, Joe.
Out of This World didn't used polygons in its visuals. It was all rotorscoped from actual objects. There's a great Behind The scenes video of this game on youtube
Fun fact Joe: if you were lucky enough to acquire an SNES Xband cartridge by Catapult you could play SNES Doom online across the country! That really 1-up the Super Nintendo version of Doom over the Sega 32X version.
That low-poly flat-textured aesthetic rocks, respect to the guy who made the intro and Joe's model
Nice change. ;)
The the screen tearing just perfect representation.
The question I have is... did Joe really do all those dance moves? 😁
@@mrburns366 If so, I need that mo-cap tech!
Yeah that ruled
This actually makes your channel 20000% better.
Don't change this.
Quality uploads? Damn straight. Hope he never quits!
3D video games from before 3D consoles is one of my favorite aesthetics.
Damn straight. I got the SNES with Starwing (as it was known in PAL regions) for Christmas one year and my mind was blown. I'd hardly seen fully 3D graphics like that in arcades let alone in my very own living room!
Same, more so on PC for me though. The console ones always really struggled, but the PC 3d of the time were usually competent making them more tolerable to explore imo.
You would have loved owning a PC in the mid 80s to early 90s then. We had no shortage of such games, and even on a meager 286 they'd run pretty well!
@@SomeOrangeCat Is there some list I can find of those games?
@@neonpop80 I wouldn't even know where to begin. Flight sims of the era were mostly flat-shaded polygonal games though.
The Star Fox demo kiosk at K-Mart blew my little mind. I had no idea such graphics were possible.
Game Sack pushes the limit of its creativity yet again.
Joe now is a playable character on 32X Virtua Fighter.
Out of this World or Flashback.
The screen tearing on Joe's model just makes it perfect
Lolol right
Define screen tear
@@donkeyparadise9276 use a dictionary, donkey
The 16-bit poly Joe is simply outstanding. It's a great idea that was well executed. Props.
The entire animation budget for this weeks episode of game sack went into the ending lol
the editing for this video RULES gamesack goes so hard I love it
Man. It's amazing what a relief Virtua Racing's 15 frames a second is after the 2-10 fps before it.
and the frame rate on the 32x is so much better, makes the Genesis game nearly unplayable in comparison.
For real, it was such a shift I thought it was sped up at first.
I had to hold onto my seat it was blazing so fast!
@@yittmashupstoo much Blast processing?
I know the music in Virtua Racing is short and sparse but man do I LOVE IT. It immediately takes me back to those 32X days. Great episode as always Joe
The, Dirty Vegas - Days Go By, part at the end of the video was a nice touch, brought back a lot of memories of that era of music and gaming 😀
Agreed. I was hoping for a Genesis-faithful FM synth take on the song to go along with it.
Joe it's insane how the production quality and creativity of the show keeps soaring. Excellent first impression on the video. Loving it so far.
Who knew you'd be even more handsome in low poly?
Yep,except for his annoying sarcastic jokes he makes🤣
@@johneygd Anny Ing? Is that the girl from Smooth Criminal?
@@johneygd get tate'd on
@@KaloKross lol thanks for the new catchphrase 🎉
@@johneygd that jokes is a selling point. It has to be like that
The opening was really cool. And I really appreciate your dedication to the topic by turning yourself into Flashback for this episode.
That intro and beginning rocked I love game sack!!!
Joe: This game sets new records...
Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: Ehyeeeeeeeeees???
Joe: For how fast it gets boring!
Creator Of La Cucaracha Game: AWWWW
Now this episode clearly is packed with *MEGA POWER* !!!
Out of all the cool production value shit Joe has done, the authentic high-fidelity screen tearing is easily the most ambitious yet
Nice use of the "Days go by" music video at the end! Never realised I needed to see you dance as a 3D polygonal character, but I definitely did! 😂
Loved that bit and the original video itself.
That Money For Nothing video must've been mind blowing with its 3D polygon graphics, the likes of which the public would never come close to experiencing in the home for at least ten years!
Joe. You rock. Thanks for all the great entertainment.
I'm just glad you could take the time off from moving these refrigerators and these color tvs to show these games to us
Great episode and the ending was brilliant 😂
Another late night in the sack with Joe, always a good time.
It's so warm & cosy.
It's great to see Joe rendered in 16-bit polygons for this episode, but by the 32/64-bit era Joe is fully rendered using 3DFX graphics.
OpenGL FTW!
@@JGreen-le8xx GLIDE!!!
Another great video. The effort and craft you put into these are stellar. That ending 😂.
I love that outro dance have reflection in windows... very nice attention of details
Great episode, Joe. I love early 3D graphics, particularly like stuff on the Amiga and megadrive (basically anything running a Motorola 68000 cpu). The chunky polygon voice over stuff was great too.
Randy Linden's SNES port of Doom is nothing short of impressive on a technical level knowing the hardware limits in place and how he pulled it off, the guy was an absolute wizard. He also did the impossible port of Dragon's Lair to the Amiga and created the Bleem PSX emulator.
He also worked on the Dirt Trax FX game featured in this episode. The guy is a wizard though!
And we've learned from him directly in recent times that it's even possible to pretty much double the frame-rate using HDMA properly too. So, look forward to seeing some hacker implement that at some point, if not Randy Linden himself.
Yup! He's definitely some kind of sorcerer!
Unrelated, but God, why do people still call the PS1, PSX? A PSX already exists.
@@90sNath Because originally PSX was shorthand for the original PS1.
I used to watch that Days Go By music video so much back in the early days of TH-cam...hilarious to see a polygon of Joe doing the exact dance moves 😂
Wow, I've never heard of Drakkhen, sounds like a game I definitely want to try out, the idea of open-world 3D on a 16-bit console is just incredible.
Joe looking like he’s got some color TVs to move
SNES Doom is impressive for sure, though according to Randy Linden about 95% of the lifting is done with the SuperFX2. I joke that Doom was ported to the SuperFX2 and used the SNES for playback.
As Joe alluded to the 16-bit micros did a lot with 3D. Shout-outs to, Hunter for having a full 3D world with NPCs who remember you and multiple driveable vehicles in 1991, Frontier for being everywhere and a sequel to the beloved Elite, and Zeewolf 2 for probably being the most technically impressive with its patchwork floor.
Also according to Randy Linden, by going back and using the SNES' built-in HDMA feature properly, he could basically double the frame-rate now from around 10 fps-15 fps to around 25 fps. And there's talk about doing exactly that.
Joe looking like he's gotta install microwave ovens, move those refrigerators, and color t.v.'s.
Looks like Joe's finally growing into a VTuber phase.
It’s always good when you wake up to a new Game Sack upload
You are a master of the TH-cam experience. I appreciate everything you do.
Always a good day when a new Game Sack video comes out!
I thought I was watching a Dire Straits video
Congrats on the end skit, which I'm sure expertly motion-captured Joe's real dance moves.
pretty sure they mo-capped dave for that
Oh wow, Joe made his VTuber Debut
Star Cruiser looks so much like what a first person Phantasy Star II would have looked like! The menus, setting, characters and overall graphical aesthetic scream PSII (with music that sounds like PSIV).
I never imagined that Jimmy White would ever be mentioned on Game Sack😂
Same. RIP Archer MacLean, he made some stellar games throughout the years.
This was "Another World" episode.
I love how Joe's reflection is showing up on the restaurant's window. Not only that, it's the opposite side of the 3D model. Talk about level of details.
For the most part, polygonal games of the 16-bit era are a perfect example of, "just because you can doesn't mean you should." LoL
The ending skit is love, life, hope... and it nothing else in this video is beloved... this skit is !!!
The F1, F1 World Championship and Kawasaki Superbike Challenge are maybe my most impressive racing games with polygons on the Mega Drive, they run very smooth. I did have (and still have) Virtua Racing in the 90s, and I did play it a lot.
Yup, seconded, those games use raster graphics to draw the road but all complex roadside elements are drawn using polygons.
This allows for a really high frame rate coupled with good looking immersive graphics.
Those games deserve to be in a future 3D episode.
@@nekononiaow They are very playable, well, to be honest I have never finished them or anything, mostly just driven some laps now and then, but they are very playable it. Especially for such old console racing games. If I had them when new I would have played them alot probably, not that many old racing games have held up the best.. But there are some, like Outrun is the type of game I just try out, but end up just playing it some more..
Always makes my day when a new Sack falls in my lap. Cheers Joe, much love from UK
@gamesack. Jimmy White is a legend in the UK. That game was originally an Amiga title. He was renowned for being the most unbelievably talented player but every time he got into a final, his nerves got to him and he would inevitably be out of his mind on booze and cocaine. I think he made 6 world championship finals and lost them all. I had the privilege of meeting him once. He's a lovely man. Gamesack is the best retro game channel on TH-cam by a mile. Keep going!
I remember seeing a TH-cam video with him discussing cheating in snooker but most of the comments were about his really bad syurp.
My fave series! Epic job!
Really loved this episode and the low poly presentation was on point. Actually, pretty amazing any polygon games were done on the 16-bit systems. "Racing Aces" on the Sega CD uses polygons but the game play is really choppy. I have a reproduction cart of "RES Q" I play on real hardware, and I actually enjoyed that game. With all the visual tricks going on in the Genesis game "Red Zone" I would be surprised if polygons were not used in there somewhere. A game on the Sega Genesis which had a very impressive polygon game engine is "Kawasaki Superbike Challenge". With how smooth that game runs I am surprised that game engine was not used more. Thanks again for another great episode. Much appreciated!
Don't forget the precursor to KSC from Domark, F1/Formula One. So, yeah, the "Vroom" 3D game engine wasn't used just the one time.
@@ostiariusalpha Nice. I will have to track that F1 game down. A game engine that good needed to be exploited to its full potential. At least it was used twice.
@@StandingUpForBetter F1 did come first, so it's not quite as impressive as KSC. It does make you wonder what Domark's programmers could have squeezed out of the SVP chip if given the chance.
@@ostiariusalpha Agreed.
Not many things can cheer me more then a new GameSack episode on sunny Sunday morning. Great one too. Thanks. 👍
Amazing end skit - the shadows, the reflections, everything!
The funny thing is that Joe actually did the dance and it was later converted to polygons. Joe's got some moves!
did he really or no?! I was just wondering if he could really dance like that or not lmao
@@DiSCERiTY he can
No, they superimposed a CGI figure over an actual dancer in the music video for "Days Go By" by Dirty Vegas. Seemed a little bit too extended of a sequence for "fair use," but I'm no lawyer.
No they didn't, they used an actual dancer to do those moves.
@@GetToThePointAlready Evidence for claim?
Considering that the original arcade boards had a bunch of somewhat powerful TI chips to do the 3D graphics, its a miracle these Atari racers ran on stock Genesis and SNES hardware at all.
20:15? Not many views? This hardware pushing limits videos are the best series in the channel Joe.
Next episode need to have B-17 Bomber in it.
30 seconds in and there's already a huge polygon in my pants
thanks Joe
How many megapower?
Stereo of the art sound?
@@DanielDangerous only 5 but they're thick
Jurassic Park SNES is worth a mention IMO. Doing the first person shooter sequences with no add-on chip in 1993 was actual wizardry
Never thought I would start my Sunday watching PolyJoe dancing 😂😂😂
Best thing to wake up to on Sundays! Thank you, Joe! Now back to bed for two weeks until next video release!
Nice flashback styled intro there, Joe
Can't beat a bit of 3D Polygonal Sack!!!! 👍🏻
That intro is sooo good!
Joe, I really appreciate how much effort you put into these episodes. It really shows.
Draekken would absolutely slay in today's market if you slap in some better looking polygons and added meta-progression.
Looks like a cool take on auto battlers!
I have heard that most people hate the game.
@@oscarzxn4067 LOL, this cracked me up, I love it.
I got really into these sorts of games a few years ago, mostly on the Genesis. A few you missed, off the top of my head: Formula One (AKA F1), F1 World Championship, and Kawasaki Super Bike Challenge. (Genesis versions specifically), and I think I all 3 use the same engine and are SUPER impressive (to me). Also, tank games. Just look up games where you drive a tank and you'll find a few on each system. Not as many as you will flight sims, but nearly. And often using flight sim engines. Best one that I've played being Garry Kitchen's Super Battletank. There's other oddball games like Red Zone, which is also really impressive (though the amount of actual 3D vs trickery is debatable). It definitely FEELS and looks 3D. Does that count? Heh.
I played F22 Interceptor & LHX Attack Chopper A LOT on the Megadrive. Loved those early polygonal games.
I loved this episode. Id love to see a 3D games episode on the GBA.
Wow, another perfect episode. Thanks for constantly topping yourself. Im currently choreographing and practicing your sweet 16 bit polygonal dance moves.
That end-skit turned this episode from a 9.9/10 to a 10/10. You're a cool creative dude, Joe.
One of the thhings I have always appreciated about your videos is the way you time everything with the beat of the music perfectly, from game transitions and including the final dance skit in this. That takes effort and it is appreciated :)
Joe wants his... Joe wants his... Joe wants his MTV.
Your channel is so underrated! It's so much fun to go back in time with you guys. And you always go the extra mile in your videos!
I'm going to subscribe ten times!
It really is a joy to watch these videos from start to end. Just watching the end is giving me the urge to…. DANCE! 😂 saucy tunes indeed Joe! Loved it all
Glad I stayed for the ending haha this is one of my favorite Game Sack post credits scenes. Well done
y'know, that 10 frame model suits you wonderfully, Joe!
I really like the genesis Domark racers. Kawasaki Superbike, and the two Formula One games (2nd euro only). I'd love to see more of these vids, since early polygon racers are 'my jam.'
Brilliant end-skit and great choice for its music
Incredible ep and presentation. Love those early ventures into Three Dee!!
I love some cereal and Sack on a Sunday morning.
Love this episode! Primitive 3D was shocking for me when I played starfox 64. Brings back memories
that flashback game sack logo transition was hilarious, and what an amazing episode, boy this was creative as hell, kudos to the guy who did the 3d polygons!!
I'm suprised you didn't mention Faceball 2000 on the SNES and even the Game Boy (8-bit 3d!). I played throught the Game Boy version of Faceball 2000 and it was great fun shooting smiliods. A simple but fun first person shooter. It runs at a pretty nice 3-4 frames per second which for a simple game like it, it is perfectly playable!
I remember getting Stunt Race FX for my birthday and how much I disliked it at first. However, since I had to wait at least four months until Christmas before getting another game I had to spend some time with it, and after getting used to the game's physics it was actually a lot of fun.
Great episode, as usual, thank you!
Dude, you've outdone yourself this time. Been watching since the first episode and this is some of the best.
That dance sequence was LEGENDARY
Joe, you keep outdoing yourself with your content and presentation! Excellent episode!
Vortex is great on the main level. The first is meant to be an easy introduction to the controls, and the last is hard as pure hell. Played it a ton, the soundscore definitely helped.
Another World was always one of those games that drew me in with it's atmosphere.. time to try and finally beat it. Thanks for another great episode, Joe.
Why does a 16 bit polygon dance better than me? :P
Great episode Joe! The low poly breakdance dance was incredible!
Exactly What I needed. Thank you 16-bit 3D Polygon Joe. Good job as always
I really hope Yoshi had to rotoscope your actual dancing.
This episode was sooooo exquisite.
Love this, the low poly intro and outro is freaking awesome! DAAAAAANCE!!!!
Genesis pushing those games with no special chip in the cartridge, is crazy, really good
Out of This World didn't used polygons in its visuals. It was all rotorscoped from actual objects. There's a great Behind The scenes video of this game on youtube
Fun fact Joe: if you were lucky enough to acquire an SNES Xband cartridge by Catapult you could play SNES Doom online across the country! That really 1-up the Super Nintendo version of Doom over the Sega 32X version.