Creality K1 High Speed 3D Printer Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2023
- Let's check out the newest Creality 3D printer the K1, promising super fast speeds! I guess I'm a 3D printer review channel now? Also cats, and Indiana Jones.
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Damn Ben. You are literally the ONLY person on TH-cam that I'd watch an hour long video for. 30 minutes is pretty much the limit for everyone else. You are just too entertaining, never change. I actually didn't care at all about the printer either, I'm a Prusa fanboy.
"I promise. I will never change!"
being a fanboy isn't something to be proud of ;)
@@shanemshortI'll be proud of anything I like, thanks. Also, Prusa makes great, if over priced, printers. I'll pay that Prusa tax though.
Good thing Creality doesn’t make cars. You’d have to become a mechanic in order to properly use your car.
So they'd be Jaguar?
6:24 love how it accidentally captures the beginning of Ben scolding Bud off camera and then quickly cuts.
I see Bud, I click "like!"
So i own a Bambulabs X1C and a P1P. I knew this was a "clone" but i didn't realize how much of a clone it was until i saw this video. The setup, the screws, the packaging, the thin ribbon cable going to the display, the UI, obvious the looks. That is crazy.
Sometimes the glue is used as a release material. Some materials, like PETG, might bind too well with the print surface and rip chunks out when you remove it. The glue releases easier while still being tacky enough for printing. I usually use glue with a little spray of IPA for an even thin coating.
Ah good point. I've got a roll of PETG haven't tried it yet.
Maaaaaaan petg sticks soooo well in my bambulab x1c. Definitely wouldn't be able to get it off my bed without glue stick.
Hair spray works as a release agent as well
Finally Ben has made it to the third dimension.
When are you going to get the bambu lab x1 with AMS. I finally punted and got one after I was in the middle of a job and the damn flashforge extruder screwed up again. My first 3d printer was a makerbot cupcake cnc (came in a box of parts and you had to build the hot end and extruder). This is my 4th printer in 13 years and it’s nice to see we are finally getting to where the maintenance only takes 5 minutes vs 3 hours.
Not all PLA can be printed at speed so it's worth taking time to run a max flow text and then you can work out the max print speed for each filament. The Prusament I have didn't like printing fast and would max out at 14 mm3 /s. I am using ESUN EPLA HF and it's much like the hyper pla and prints very fast, but also when printed at normal speeds is quite strong. The software is Klipper and Creality have not admitted they are using open source firmware or released the source code.
This is the most entertaining tech review I’ve ever watched
Thanks for the review! What was Bud's review of the box?
If you tighten the belts you probably need to calibrate the input shaping since it changes the resonances. the style of printer is called cireXY. What kind of nozzle does it use ? Is ir like the bond tech or the new revo
The glue sticks less than the printbed. On my Bambu Lab printer, PLA sticks to the special PLA plate so well it rips apart the surface if you don't apply any release agent.
These rubber feet dampeners are actually something I've seen commonly used for front-loading washing machines. Makes them less noisy and less likely to damage surrounding furniture due to vibrations.
Hey at least you had access to a CNC machine when you made your Atari. I was using a Radio Shack project box, If I had a 3D printer back then I would have been blown away!
I'm waiting for k1 max. Good review thanks 👍
Bud: I feel itchy ... You don't scratch my neck!
Turn on Monotopic printing in the tops and bottoms settings that will resolved the look around holes
As for Hyper PLA I've heard Bambu brand filaments are formulated mostly for quick melting. I've had a X1C for a few weeks and plan to start testing my non Bambu filaments. I'm getting prints light years better than my Ender 3 V2.
Thanks. I think this convinced me to go with Bambu.
I think the height of the deviations in those early prints could be due to the bed getting low enough to change the angle of the bend in that filament lead tube to start allowing easier movement of the filament. That would explain why it was the same height in each print.
Hairspray is suppose to work well. I used it on my Ender 3 Pro glass bed and always got good results. I just picked up my K1, but haven't unpacked it yet. Need to build out some additional work space.
Ben, you need to get a bambu p1p to do some printing!
We need Pantone to update their color palettes with "One-pack-a-day white" from now on!
you should print a calibration cube and adjust the steps
A phrase I keep repeating to my kids is "if you're using force, you're likely doing something wrong"
u r soft
@@Sv5YpWTwd9otTA4So83f u r bot.
Sounds like something a Sith would say.
Did you run the input shaping again after messing with the belts?
I know this probably isn't super important to you but do you know how possible it would be to make this printer quieter at the cost of speed and what not?
I can buy the k1 max at a very good price but because Id have it set up in my room the noise is an issue. I'm after it for the corexy because the ender s1 plus wont fit in my wardrobe, so if its possible to make it print quieter but at a normal printer speed id buy one right now.
@9:06 not exactly. it measures the resonant frequency of the machine and adjusts the stepper inputs to prevent ringing artifacts in prints.
what would happen if you ran the input shaping during an earthquake?
I made my workplace buy one because I needed something for some ABS parts
I ended up only printing some PETG cuz I needed some transparancy but I had issues with the top on, where sometimes the Extruder jams
Wonder if they could use airjets inside of the printer
Cura started to do some very odd things to my printers couple of years back, which caused so many issues to prints. If you check the model after you slice it, there's a lot of... whatchacallit... extrude starting points(?) in very strange places that will cause stringing, ringing and other problems, no matter the settings and they are always in same places, no matter how many times you print the model. Even calibration cube didn't end up good like earlier. And if that Creality's slicer is fork of Cura, there's the problem. I saw in your earlier videos where you were wondering about it too. I haven't found the solution for it even if I come back after each Cura updates and still no luck. I switched to Prusa Slicer and my printing problems was solved right away. Also Prusa Slicer's new organic supports are making life so much easier. Not sure if there's any settings for hyper filaments, since I heard about them for first time myself in this video.
I don't usually watch unboxing or product reviews, but your videos are always fun to watch. Keep it up!
Edit: Oh, looks like it was just belt and tube issues in this one. Should been watching the video to the end before commenting!
Sounds like you may have enabled Z seam randomise, that moves the layer start point randomly around the perimeter to avoid a Z seam. In the config menu check the "Z Seam Alignment" setting in the "Walls" section.
I bet the glue is just to keep it from sticking too much. Which is interesting because often it's needed to increase the stickiness.
Thank you, your videos are amazing. I was in stitches laughing hard enough to annoy my wife by the 7min mark.
46:45 Was expecting you to revert the bowden tube routing and run a confirmation print.
Doing a calibration of steps per mm and a PID tune will help almost every printer. I assume this machine can do that from the LCD.
Joe Ranft, who co-wrote the screenplay for Brave Little Toaster, also worked at Pixar. Interesting.......
The best dad jokes on the internet and the best review of the k1 creality on the planet.
Hi ! Great vid. Only thing is that input shaping doesnt account for "drift" it meassures vibrations and compensates for them using motors and btw there is some problems with your printer the quality is not adekvate
Yeah I didn't even hear about the Goonies till I was in my late 20's. A few people I know looked but on it with fond nostalgia, most hadn't seen it, but then saw it and liked it because it reminded us of many movies back then. For people that loved it they really loved it, but I dunno, It's not something that seems as good as other films from the era.
I assume it just depends on what you watched back then.
At 52:53 what you called lifting is actually due to the nozzle being too close to the bed during the first layer printing. My early prints were plagued with that on Prusa. But I am guessing that there isn’t control for that on this printer, since it is all automated.
My old Makerbot was having that same issue at MRRF. A guy helped me dial it in.
We need to get Bambu to send you a carbon X1 or P1P
MRRF was really busy this year but I can only think that there would be more venders and larger turn out if they moved it from Goshen, IN. Seems like such an odd place for it. Was nice chatting about Menards and pinball to you!
It's there because that's where SeeMeCNC uses to be.
@@BenHeckHacks Thanks for the info, though I still think it's a limiting location, guess I can't complain it's only a 2 hour drive for me and the floor was dry!
What is that heating tool called for driving in the threads?
It's a heat-set tip on a soldering iron.
Great video! In the video you showed some small changes (reverse boden and belt tension), you need to re-run the input shaper calibration after all changes to improove the print quality ---> all these changes impact the resonace frequence. Compared to my Ratrig VCORE 3.1 (running at same speeds and standard PLA and ABS) the parts you showed, unfortunately look like crap. Also try to calibrate preasure advance (for every material) as well, as it will improove the prints. Check the Klipper docs for more detail, good luck and happy printing!
In general yeah, I didn't feel like it was making $600 printer quality prints. Maybe for 2015, but not today.
@@BenHeckHacks I totally agree! The K1 is not on my shopping list for a lot of reasons.
Perfectly cut "Bud!" screams
4:00 lol that's great, looks better than the live action
45:45 its called coreXY configuration
Wooo. I like this printer, and Thought it was gonna be very expensive, but even in sweden with our 25% tax, Its like the price of 2 Ender 3 V2 (which is cheap on its own)
Like for the Robert Palmer ref...
When you forget to unmute the audio track before rendering. Been there.
KITTY!
Amazing that anyone just starts using something nowadays without updating the firmware and software. I guess it's nice to have in the review 😅
Hair metal ballad Ben is the best Ben.
that is pretty cool Classic Game Room
43`38 In this economy I'm literally tightening my belt(s)
One of your best jokes.
You gonna give Bud his own channel? ❤️
Did you put that high dollar 3D printer synthetic lubricant grease on everything before you started printing. I found I get much better prints when I do it before I start printing on my machine makes a tremendous difference. From what I’ve read nobody puts it on the 3D printer, so put on every 3D printer you get before you start printing. Nobody ever mentions it in their videos, except one guy. I got a Mini Delta V2, made a racket when I first started printing, but stuff on it and now you can not here it printing and lay shift stop and same my other printers
3D printer grease?
@@BenHeckHacks Super Lube - Silicone Lubricanting Grease with Syncolon (PTFE) should be $29.99 or less but people sell it up to $500 for 3oz. It Will last for year you use very small amounts it go a long ways. I look in to a lot of different one and this one came out to be best for 3D printers and other things and is food safe. And if you get on the belts or any carbon fiber, plastics parts it will not damage them and when it will wipe off with water or acetone. I actually take a very small paper clip and do the bearings on the fan’s also. Depending on the printer I got between 5 and 20 dB less noise. This is what’s packed in most of your kitchen appliances gears. Boxes, Several of the 3D printers manufactures recommend doing this with some lubricant and grease all part moving parts with something before you use their printers. After Printing a few things you’ll notice that the extra grease will build up and be almost black because it has removed the fine metal particles from the parts, just wipe off and apply a little bit again. It should not turn black but once or twice a year and you need to wipe it off and reapply. I personally wipe it off and reapply once a month as preventive maintenance And it never turns black.
Hi Ben, I've watched your videos for years now. For as much as you tinker with 3d printers and electronics, I'm surprised you've never built a Voron, vzbot or Ratrig 3d printer. Maybe I missed the video? 🤷🏽♂️ Meh, cool video either way. Keep up the good work. 🤙🏽
I actually don't really tinker with them. For me it's about making prints not printers.
@@BenHeckHacks ah! Makes sense!
I give this video 3 thumbs up!
Next movie, Ben and the nut bolt heater 😁.
Can you start a Bud channel? Kthx man!
I bet they borrowed the arrows from Bambu Labs. Early X1C adopters had issues on what screws to remove to release the bed.
Oh wait, duh, Creality pretty much borrowed this entire printer from Bambu. 😛
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery". I want quality prints fast but quietly. It's that old "you have three needs - pick two" situation. BUT I have enjoyed and benefitted from 3rd party innovations for 3D printers. Whoever emerges as the leader I hope will support that ecosystem. There are issues with any 3D printer no matter how "perfect". I hope I can get all three!
You might not like the goonies (a masterpiece compared to most modern cinema) but you can't deny that Goonies II was a pretty decent NES game. I also missed Classic Game Room. Glad he's back.
Budd was trying to tell you those were shipping screws if you listened.
Entertaining and useful review as usual. I'm interested in the K1 plus. All of my printers are dialed in and working well. The desire for something new would be speed without sacrificing noise (like Bambu). I am taking a break from buying new printers while this next generation of printers is perfected. Bambu started this revolution and I'm enjoying the show.
Ben is waiting for a printer that can print Leeloo
Now that houses in Astoria are $700 million, the goonies are good enough.
golden eye refference
6:25 ...BU'!
They did remake the brave little toaster. It was called toy story....5 min later, oh you agree
Leela isn't in 5th Element :)
I'm only here for the bud clip...
Every day is Truxton day!
Rewatching this video @44:50 this is actualy a thing. You actualy make a makeshif sonic tension meter.
You dont need glue for that kind of bed, it already has a bse of somenthing that plastic stick to it
No silent stepper drivers? wtf
the part cooler is so loud- it would not make a difference
I thought it was a stand for your LPs. 😅
Dremel 3D Printer klipper ???
40:23 I don't shake trees to see weak branches. Why do you?
Gates belt adjustment, dont allow any loose, its Gates belt.
Going to plaid I always took as a joke on the light speed effect, just some effect sillier than the last I assume was the idea. I'm sure you could come up with something better but they came up with plaid, maybe because it was so bad a joke they went with it.
Well normally whenever somebody went to "light speed" all the stars would turn into lines, or "stripes," so what's better than stripes? Plaid!
@@moosemaimer yeah, pretty much what I though. Though you could have come up with something different and I might have made more sense, but then would it have been as funny?
Going plaid. In Star Wars, the stars streaked back as the ship went to light speed; that could be thought of as stripes. So, to a non-technical person, what is beyond stripes, plaid.
Deviations and all those defects you know, when you understand how it works with philosophy and manuals you will find out that the walls of the printer aren't made to keep the heat stable to print or extrude almost one perfect piece or art or controlling gameplay. Not even a mylar tint to keep heat in and making it more efficient at same time and faster, no cold spots.
ahhhhhhhh
so much peeeeeeeeeling... yes it was good for me too.
What's with these arrows, signing divorce papers 🤣🤣🤣
Peel the printer, peel the printer, I want to see that printer peeled and printing. Peel the printer, peel the printer, I want to see that printer peeled and printing.
this had better be a trojan horse indiana jones review
That level of chinglish and poor documentation is normal for creality. The software looks like a reskinned cura and the machine talks in Klipper. I wonder if it's the same software as they have on the Sonic pad.
Next time just buy a bamboo machine, creality machines require a ton of calibration
It's..... Not very quiet. Besides that, I feel there's been very little progress in 3d printers for the last few years. Still not fast, still a lot of tinkering.
Nature of the beast tbh. There are so many things that can go wrong that adding automation to cover every possibility would result in a very expensive printer. The Bambu labs X1 does go a step further by inspecting the first layer for flaws.
No hardware tinkering on my new bambu x1c. I really don't need to turn the non bambu filament but I will.
Eventually I'll have to admit that we've moved on to a new generation of 3D printers. Sorry ol' reliable Ender 3 Pro.
mjäu!
am i the only one how thinks this is a direct clone of the bamboo labs printers ??? lol i mean seriously
58:44 (Comic Book Guy Voice): Your Video Title is 'Creality K1' but your Video Text says 'Creality KI'.... not amused!!!
bought mine 1 week ago this terrible printer, the extruder not working properly and buggies firmware to work with. ready to spend few weeks to fix the problems yourself if u want to get it. is like taking a gambling yourself to buy it whether u get the working properly unit or useless unit
What is a Ben Heck 3D printer review? A miserable pile of references! But enough talk, have at you!
too damn loud
First
Like hell.