Bambu Lab X1C 3D Printer Review: Speed at What Cost?

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  • We test and review the Bambu Lab X1-Carbon 3D printer! Since its release last year, it's shaken up the FDM 3D printing world with its fast CoreXY printing capabilities, hands-off accessibility, and convenient features like remote monitoring and automated filament switching. And at its fastest, we were able to print a test benchy in under 14 minutes! Here's what you should know about this printer and a look at how massively increasing print speeds affects print quality.
    Bambu Lab X1-Carbon with AMS: www.matterhack...
    CT Scans of Benchy prints:
    .2mm layer height, standard slicer settings: app.lumafield....
    .08mm layer height, standard slicer settings: app.lumafield....
    Pre-sliced benchy: app.lumafield....
    (1/2/3/4 correspond to Silent, Standard, Sport and Ludicrous speeds in the scans)
    Moon Lamp: www.printables...
    Flexi Factory models: www.myminifact...
    MatMire Makes flexi models: www.myminifact...
    Multi-Material Dice: www.myminifact...
    “Printing Better Worlds” badge: www.printables...
    NASA Coasters: www.printables...
    Multi-Color 8-bit heart: cults3d.com/en...
    Low poly Stormtrooper: www.printables...
    The Dark Knight and Vader busts: www.myminifact...
    Hexton Hills tabletop terrain: www.myminifact...
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  • @tested
    @tested  ปีที่แล้ว +40

    CT Scans of Benchy prints:
    .2mm layer height, standard slicer settings: app.lumafield.com/project/e755d75d-e7b3-414e-bba2-886673ec12ce
    .08mm layer height, standard slicer settings: app.lumafield.com/project/a5b75854-05bf-438b-9f19-28fe2744312c
    Pre-sliced benchy: app.lumafield.com/project/362faee3-e0c6-404d-82fc-10c5f84581e8
    (1/2/3/4 correspond to Silent, Standard, Sport and Ludicrous speeds in the scans)
    Moon Lamp: www.printables.com/model/23859-designer-lithophane-moon-lamp
    Flexi Factory models: www.myminifactory.com/users/dansopala?show=objects
    MatMire Makes flexi models: www.myminifactory.com/users/MatMireMakes?show=objects
    Multi-Material Dice: www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-d-d-dice-set-multi-material-included-132652
    “Printing Better Worlds” badge: www.printables.com/model/466398-weyland-yutani-sign-altered-to-say-printing-better
    NASA Coasters: www.printables.com/model/8330-nasa-coasters-for-dual-extrusion-multi-material-or
    Multi-Color 8-bit heart: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/various/multi-color-8-bit-heart
    Low poly Stormtrooper: www.printables.com/model/247-low-poly-space-toys-dual-extrusion-version
    The Dark Knight and Vader busts: www.myminifactory.com/users/eastman?show=objects&page=1&price=free
    Hexton Hills tabletop terrain: www.myminifactory.com/users/Graven%20Guild?show=objects

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great but SCREAMS "at any point we can brick this" with all the tech jammed in..
      From the RFID/NFC readers for spools (and they have their own chipped spools - these are NOT BASIC AND HARD TO CRACK, think about why that is..), cloud stuff, proprietary versions of open source software, etc. Is just ripe for holding people hostage... They could go out of business, get bought out, decide to force subscriptions for use, make it so you can't use any filament but theirs etc etc.
      Oh and if something breaks or was dead on arrival, they only send parts and it's apparently a massive pain to fix and repair.
      My big gripe is for businesses/industry with proprietary design going on - we CANNOT use your cloud. Half or more our stuff isn't even on internet-capable networks (local only) to prevent cyber security issues and potential accidental leaks.
      That being said, there are a lot of great features and capabilities packed into these at an obtainable-by-consumers and hobbyist price range.. something that has been much needed in FDM printing for awhile.
      To the over trusting: remember all the promises Oculus/Facebook made about not requiring FB accounts.. unless it's in some legally binding documents, you should hope for the best and expect extortion..

    • @iddeegee
      @iddeegee ปีที่แล้ว

      18:55 Did you use some adhesive? why did some parts stick to the plate?

    • @hologos_
      @hologos_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Artificial.Unintelligenceyou can set the printer to local network only mode or print using sd card 🤷‍♂️ why do people bring the cloud all the time.. it's for convinience. If you don't want to, you don't have to.

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hologos_ wasn't specified here unless I missed it, but I fixed my response in another thread where someone mentioned it can go offline (for now)

    • @GoodEggGuy
      @GoodEggGuy ปีที่แล้ว

      How long did the 0.08mm Hexton Hills castle/mansion take to print? Did you print it at silent, standard, sport or ludicrous?

  • @ckoerner
    @ckoerner ปีที่แล้ว +90

    That CT scan really took this review to a new level. Very cool to see the insides of the model like that.

  • @codemonkey2k5
    @codemonkey2k5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    You can also load up the AMS with the same filament and have the AMS auto switch to the next roll if one runs out.

  • @NinaThoren
    @NinaThoren ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Love that you reviewed this, as someone who does not have a 3D printer yet I have been eyeing this as it seems like it has everything I want so it's very good having someone more knowledgeable give their opinion

    • @vinberube136
      @vinberube136 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The Bambu X1C was my first 3D printer and I can confirm that it's extremely easy to use. It's pretty much plug and play.

    • @Deathbyfartz
      @Deathbyfartz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you have zero experience in 3D printing i wouldn't go with a bambu lab, they have notoriously terrible customer support, and alot of non reviewers have had to have paypal escalate their cases to either get refunds, or help fixing their issues.
      sadly this is kind of universal with chinese 3D printing brands, some worse than others.
      unfortunately only 3D printer manufacturer that actually has dependable customer service is Prusa, and sadly you pay dearly for that luxury

    • @liquidpza
      @liquidpza ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@Deathbyfartz Interesting. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but as an owner of two X1Cs for several months now, and knowing several other people/companies using them, we've all had the completely opposite experience. No offense to you personally, but aside from inevitable outlier cases, this just sounds like a typical case of noise coming from a loud minority of folks. They've been extremely fast to respond to any of my questions or issues, and have gone far beyond what I'd expect from most established companies, let alone a brand new one. This is easily my favorite machine that I've worked with, and that's a very long list of printers, including some costing six figures. Another Chinese printer company that I've worked with, QIDI, has some of the best customer service that I've experienced in the industry. Blanket statements are rarely optimal.

    • @morbus5726
      @morbus5726 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Deathbyfartz weird, my expiring with support hasn’t been that bad, responses might take a couple days or hours, but that’s likely because they’re a small company experiencing a boom in sales

    • @elleryfg7853
      @elleryfg7853 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Deathbyfartz Well if you're in the US, Matterhackers is now selling them. They provide after sale support so they might help bridge the gap with BL customer service

  • @aardvarkairsoft1660
    @aardvarkairsoft1660 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I love my x1c. Random unexplained failures are exceedingly rare unlike my ender 3. The machine feels like a tool. If I want to have fun with a printer I fire up my ender 3. If I just want to print a part not have to worry about it (as long as support settings are correct) the x1c is hard to beat.

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never had unexplained failures with my ender 3's.
      Barely any failures honestly and if there were they were easily explained.

    • @Feibie
      @Feibie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this worries me because I've just ordered a X1C and my ender 3v2 has been VERY reliable. Never had a failed print that wasn't something I messed up.

    • @shoelugs
      @shoelugs ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First few months my ender 3 s1 pro gave me headaches but I enjoy tinkering and modifying 3d printers. The core problem was bed is warped
      X1C is just butter right out of the box.

    • @lennartjuhh
      @lennartjuhh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me, having to mess around with a printer to get it to work would take the fun right out of it, hence why I've never made the leap to get one.
      Seeing Bambu Labs after seeing someone mention their current sale, has really made me realize printers are finally starting to be consumer friendly, and I'm now considering buying my first printer from them. I just want to print to get the things done I plan on doing, and not tinker.

  • @KevOXO
    @KevOXO ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Hi all, one 'extra' you get from having an AMS is long job run cover or end of spool usage.
    My daughter has been printing large scale aircraft parts on an X1C for 5 months 24/7. She sets her alarm for job completion, has build plates ready to go.
    Routine being get the completed job out, put a fresh build plate in and send the next plate (In the slicer, you can have multiple plates in one job.) to the printer.
    All the filament is same brand, colour and batch so when spool 1 runs out the AMS just switches to spool 2 (Check settings it is a checkbox) so if say 1 and 2 are empty she swaps for full ones.
    This is also useful if you are printing functional parts where you don't care about the colour, just fill the AMS with your almost empty of the same type, tell the AMS it is all the same and walk away. If it is a big job then you maybe have to go back to add other end of run filament.
    Remember you are trying to save money by using old stuff too short to do a full job, so use a heat box, kitchen dehydrator, oven whatever you have, don't risk a failure with the filament you had in the shed for 2 months.

  • @EvilSewnit
    @EvilSewnit ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I think Adam should build a Voron!

  • @tomhorsley6566
    @tomhorsley6566 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    My main problem is, the word "cloud" automatically makes me believe that "cloud" word will turn into the "subscription" word some day.

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I get that. Cloud isn't necessary to use it though.

    • @dirediredude
      @dirediredude ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It will at some point but that's life in 2023. You have very few non cloud subscription models to choose from if you're hell bent on that.

    • @nerfthecows
      @nerfthecows ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You can print via Wi-Fi with out internet or via SD card.

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah the tech that's packed into it screams "at any point we can brick this".
      From the RFID/NFC readers for spools (and they have their own chipped spools - these are NOT BASIC AND HARD TO CRACK), cloud stuff, proprietary versions of open source software, etc. Is just ripe for holding people hostage... They could go out of business, get bought out, decide to force subscriptions for use, make it so you can't use any filament but theirs etc etc.
      Oh and if something breaks or was dead on arrival, they only send parts and it's apparently a massive pain to fix and repair.
      My big gripe is for businesses/industry with proprietary design going on - we CANNOT use your cloud. Half or more our stuff isn't even on internet-capable networks (local only) to prevent cyber security issues and potential accidental leaks.
      That being said, there are a lot of great features and capabilities packed into these at an obtainable-by-consumers and hobbyist price range.. something that has been much needed in FDM printing for awhile.

    • @aware2action
      @aware2action ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@nerfthecows But cannot update firmware without connecting to cloud😉

  • @erikm9768
    @erikm9768 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just wow! What an amazing review, the 3d scanning of the models in different speed is so next level. This gotta be the best 3d printer review hands down i have ever seen!

  • @stormycatmink
    @stormycatmink ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Another nice feature I've personally had save me a ton of time, is the auto detection of spool issues. I had to respool some filament and ran into a few tangles, and it automatically detected it, paused, let me untangle it, refeed the filament, and it picked up the print where it left off. The print came out perfect, with very little waste. That normally would have cost me several full prints. Not worried about the filament loss as much as the time. Having to start a 10 hour print over three times would have taken forever. Having interrupted several times only added 30min or so.
    Also, all the automatic saves a ton of time worrying about calibrating for each filament to get smooth prints. No more trying to dial in the flow rates and temperatures to get smooth prints. It just works, every time.

  • @nerfthecows
    @nerfthecows ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is one of best purchases I’ve made. I love the hobby but I work a lot and 90% of the time It takes no intervention….with a 0.2 nozzle I’ve printed 0.5 modulus gears both spur and bevel gears and they are perfect…

    • @VincentGroenewold
      @VincentGroenewold ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When it does though it's pretty tough to service it. Also, I don't like it's proprietary as this limits my ability to fix it or change stuff, especially important if they go out of market.

    • @robblly8112
      @robblly8112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ⁠@@VincentGroenewold you have free control to fix parts of your printer, the only limitation with the proprietary nature is buying it from bambu lab’s store.
      bambu lab has also clarified that if they ever go out of business, they will fully open everything with the printer. everything. design, parts, repairs.

  • @crowguy506
    @crowguy506 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Speaking from experience running basically a fully automated 16 slot filament shelf is an absolute blast, but with great power comes great responsibility. Another way to mitigate waste are models that just stack the colors. Only colors swaps within layers may cause massive amounts. Vertical swaps once every few layers only need a few swaps.

    • @Smokeyr67
      @Smokeyr67 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a very boring person, my prints are grey, or gray

    • @112428
      @112428 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm excited for this ability to change colors for embossed text. I print alot of organizers, usually with a label on them to show what goes in the organizers. Think like socket sets, or plastic tools for automotive connectors that don't come with a tray to put them in. Right now I have to spend a bunch of time carefully painting the raised text. It'd be much easier to tell the software to print the organizer in grey, and the raised text in white.

    • @crowguy506
      @crowguy506 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@112428 If you can manage to print the letters last, on top of the print, you can just swap the filament when reaching the letters by adding a filament swap to the gcode and do a two color print even on any single material printer. This works by orienting the parts or by printing just signs that way and glueing them on. Stacking two or more colors of the same filament type works on every machine.

    • @JBansal
      @JBansal ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@112428 What kind of socket holders have you made? I'm looking at getting one for essentially that reason. Kind of want to make something like Toolbox Widget's style, but specific sizes for certain socket sets I have. Does it work well?

  • @vlaktorbb
    @vlaktorbb ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have a X1C with double AMS, and my experiences have been extremely good compared to other printers i have like a prusa mk2.5 and a sidewinder X1. I have over 500 hours of printing time on my X1C, zero clogs, the only print fails i have had where bed adhesion issues(mostly my own fault) and i can still count the failures on 2 hands. This printer really pushes the market forward, the bar is raised. The competition has work to do.

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can stack the multi material part for more??

    • @ckoerner
      @ckoerner ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Artificial.Unintelligence Up to four of them for 16 colors!

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ckoerner I'm honestly shocked the machine can handle that weight.. and curing how it manages 16 filament lines 😅

  • @jricard0745
    @jricard0745 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent presentation! This is the only review I've found that addresses, in detail, the quality differences at different speeds. Print quality is especially important to me since I am a hobbyist (OK to have long print times) who designs engineered parts that need accuracy and good finish. Thank you for being thorough.

    • @tomtlrech1392
      @tomtlrech1392 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      +1 to this. My biggest frustration with the machine (other than that troubleshooting is significantly harder than with my ender) is that the print quality does seem to suffer at speed, even with calibration. A few thousandths bulge from linear advanced is enough to ruin the fit between parts and waste my life going after it with a scraper

  • @TheChrischkula
    @TheChrischkula 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Old but…about the waste: I don’t know how it’s in the US but here in Germany I tried filament from a brand called Recycling Fabrik where u can send in your fail prints and scrap parts (PLA and PETG) or empty spools to get discount points. They also sell rPLA and rPETG (r for recycled).

  • @AndrewWorkshop
    @AndrewWorkshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That time-lapse music brings back memories of old school Tested!

  • @boonjabby
    @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Best feature of the AMS is having multiple colors ready to go for a project. Don't need to get up and swap through your filaments. Effectively making it a true remote start system.
    It's one step away from self cleaning the print bed haha

    • @chuysaucedo7119
      @chuysaucedo7119 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes! Self cleaning bed would be awesome

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chuysaucedo7119 I had a thought. Imagine if the slicer could tell if a part was able to be nudged off the build plate, out the front door into a container.
      In essence it would wait to cool, then attempt to separate from build plate by pushing it. If the sensors are used the system could behave in a way that doesn't damage itself or the part.

    • @chuysaucedo7119
      @chuysaucedo7119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boonjabby Sort of the way they have some print farms operating!

  • @gryyphyn8639
    @gryyphyn8639 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've said this before on other X1C reviews and I'll say it again: this is a great TOOL for integrating 3d printing to your other hobbies as a support piece rather than another hobby to collect. I have plenty of expensive hobbies, I don't need another. I need to make 3d print positives for sandcasting metal or test a scale design iteration for my telescope platform. I don't want to have to build and learn 3d printing from scratch with a kit in a box. I want a great tool I don't have to think a whole lot about.

  • @dchurch911
    @dchurch911 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the control options of using an sd card, direct connect, or our local network system. I also appreciate the optional cloud benefits and the wifi camera for monitoring prints from across town. The range of choices allow for convenience and security.

  • @jnrmrtn
    @jnrmrtn ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm watching this thinking, "Wow that's a lot of good info." Then I looked at the timeline and realized there was still 15 minutes left! Great overview. Thank you!

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm so super happy with my P1P. The only big downside is the high speed causes a lot of vibrations so you need some seriously stable platform to place it on. I often run my P1P on 50% speed which honestly is still very fast 😶 Eyeing an AMS to make material switches faster and being capable off printing with a dedicated support material.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For anyone afraid that you can't control the settings enough: you can change literally EVERY aspect of the print including extruder feeding, layer temps (first and rest of layers), infills, overhangs, speeds for every line type. It can be super complex. But in it's core 90% of the time it seems the presets are spot on. Click the preset, hit print, enjoy the show :)

    • @goawaybaizuo
      @goawaybaizuo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Man, I have to say, the Bambu support material is freaking amazing. Set the gap between support and print at zero, and the prints look phenomenal. It's also SUPER easy to remove. The only thing is that the switches waste a ton of the stuff and it's not exactly cheap.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goawaybaizuo yeah that's the main thing that keeps me from considering doing multi color printing. It's a loooot of waste. But I can see some edge cases (like that badge where it does a single switch) where it could be cool. And for the support printing I'd only use it on very specific models. I recently printed a Ghostbusters Slimer and getting the support out of the mouth is hellish. There it could be great to have a softer support material 😁 But my main draw is remote switching of materials 👍🏻

    • @robblly8112
      @robblly8112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SyntheticFuture it’s actually hardly wasteful at all when only using the support material for the interface (*which is what you should be doing!!!!*).
      large prints with lots of supports hardly even wasted me a cent. it really is worth it imo

    • @michaelb1478
      @michaelb1478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@robblly8112thank you! I did not even think of doing it that way. Just got a P1S with AMS to replace my ender 5+ that finally died. This bit of advice just saved me a lot of future wasted support material

  • @paintballercali
    @paintballercali ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh interesting in the options of people from outside the core 3d printing community. I love mine I can't believe how smart it is.

  • @mathyszka
    @mathyszka ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have quite a few printers at this point that just sit around untouched because of the fact that the X1C just works. For me it’s the convenience of just being able to effortlessly switch materials say if I need to print something out of carbon fiber, I just flip the build plate over and it takes care of the rest then put the plate back and it’s immediately ready to rock out prints in PLA. It’s a favourite of many people for a reason. If your just starting out and want something that will handle everything you throw at it with little effort, just get the P1P as it’s hard to beat at the price point.

  • @Patrickitron
    @Patrickitron ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent Review! I have watched five other reviews of this printer, and none of them explained the reality of using multiple colors in the same print (AMS). Thank you for starting with the assumption that the viewer knows almost nothing.

  • @sshelle
    @sshelle ปีที่แล้ว

    Norm, your through and well thought out review has convinced me that this will be my nexted 3D printer. Great job, sir!

  • @ScottLahteine
    @ScottLahteine ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Input Shaping is pretty amazing… it's mathemagical! We added ZV Input Shaping to Marlin in version 2.1.2 and there will be more advanced Input Shaping included in Marlin 2.1.3. This means that even inexpensive machines like the Ender-3 can get smoother prints at higher speeds without any additional hardware, just by updating the firmware. The way Input Shaping works is pretty cool. Basically, every impulse that moves an axis generates ringing in the machine frame with a regular period. So all we have to do is time half of the impulses so that they occur at just the right moment to catch that frequency wave on the return swing, and it effectively deadens the vibration. I'm working on the input shaping code every day so I know it intimately, and yet it still seems like magic. And truly, it is!

    • @Belows682
      @Belows682 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thats so freaking cool. Thanks for your work on this and the explenation. We need more peeps like you!

    • @addohm
      @addohm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meanwhile prusa is still prusa and prusa 2023 is garbage.

    • @Michael-hn8bo
      @Michael-hn8bo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro thank you for your work. Got my P1S in last week. Thing's great and a large part is owed to you.

    • @NinjaForHire
      @NinjaForHire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      do you know is input shaping a passive automatic ability written in the actual firmware of a printer or is it something you would have to turn on in the settings? I'm on a 2.1.3 now from Risc and I don't see anything like that.

    • @CubesAndPortals
      @CubesAndPortals 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's awesome. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ken830
    @ken830 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When it comes to reviews of the Bambu, this may be last, but definitely not least. Great review!

  • @cynic5581
    @cynic5581 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Probably the printer I’ll get once I get tired of my old Ender 3. Currently about an hour into a 14 hour print for a part I want to use tomorrow. If it fails I’ll be SOL because I won’t have time to re-print it. So a faster printer that retains quality and reliability would be nice.

  • @volttherobot
    @volttherobot ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for the review - we have been interested in this machine, and you did a great job of explaining (and showing) how it all works 🤖👍

  • @whatevah666
    @whatevah666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's very nice, bambu labs even keep a "backup" of your prints... love the cloud ;)

  • @chuckl7713
    @chuckl7713 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I get nervous anytime I hear a device is internet connected. I'd have to know what the offline experience is.

  • @planefrog
    @planefrog ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Some prints may not have any colour requirements. It would be useful if you could print these items along with colour specific prints, bed space allowing, to use the otherwise wasted filament.

  • @tankgrrl
    @tankgrrl ปีที่แล้ว

    "it's making me fall back in love with FDM printing" - 100% agree. I have two Saturn and a Photon M2 Max and now I keep finding myself thinking "That would be better in PLA/ABS/etc" and since the X1 is so fast, I'm not also thinking "But that will take forever!" So I'm re-watching this video because now I find myself considering a second X1 or perhaps a P1S.

  • @muppetsstoogesfan1
    @muppetsstoogesfan1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just found out James Comisar is unloading his massive television memorabilia collection at auction. PLEASE tell me Tested is making a video about it! The actual sets from Cheers, Frasier, and All In The Family are coming to auction. Iconic costumes from hundreds of shows. I neeeeeed to see Adam's reaction to seeing these pieces of history.

  • @OhHeyTrevorFlowers
    @OhHeyTrevorFlowers ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I'm very happy to see Bambu raise the bar. That said, for my hobby tools I'm allergic to cloud services and closed source so I'm happy to wait for a fully local and open solution. For production tools the calculus is different. If I believe the company will be around for longer than the lifespan of the tool and I don't expect to hack it then I'm less strict about both cloud and closed source.

    • @JarenMorris_UnderHover
      @JarenMorris_UnderHover ปีที่แล้ว +6

      you dont need to use the cloud for it. There is LAN mode and SD card just like most other printers.

    • @OhHeyTrevorFlowers
      @OhHeyTrevorFlowers ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morbus5726 Yeah, I'm aware of the options. I'm waiting to see how the Prusa MK4 input shaping works out and whether they eventually open source the hw design. Hopefully it'll all work out before I need a new hobby printer.

    • @whiskeyinthejar24
      @whiskeyinthejar24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@JarenMorris_UnderHover you have to connect to the cloud to update the firmware though.

    • @JarenMorris_UnderHover
      @JarenMorris_UnderHover ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@whiskeyinthejar24 and? How many other electronics do you have that need to do that? Updating firmware via an internet connection like almost any other electronic that gets updates should be a non issue. It’s not a “cloud service”, it’s an OTA update.

    • @whiskeyinthejar24
      @whiskeyinthejar24 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JarenMorris_UnderHover it's turning 3d printing into a very closed ended commercialised thing. Which is inevitable. The carbon rails are glued into place and can't be replaced when they wear out. The data feed to the cloud is encrypted and bambu refuse to divulge what user data they are pulling from people's systems, the amount of data they are collecting is fairly large apparently.

  • @jdinnis
    @jdinnis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like a lot of the ideas that this printer brings to the table, but the one sticking point I have is the cloud connection. This was highlighted recently when a number of users reported that their Carbon printers started printing commanded. Not a great situation. But I also wonder about how much of my data Bamboo is collecting and potentially selling to 3rd parties. The cost of the cloud connection is definitely weighing heavily against the benefit for me.

    • @mitchellradspinner4491
      @mitchellradspinner4491 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Luckily there is a “offline” mode where you can stay connected over your wifi but not hit their servers. though you lose certain non essential features like connection to the app

  • @aware2action
    @aware2action ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the durability and serviceability? Even with the input shaping and corexy kinematics, the mechanical wear would be exponential at insane speeds. What about the availability of 3rd party upgrades and parts? Could be useful for faster turnaround of rapid prototypes, if not forvthe data piracy and ip protection concerns in uploading to a cloud service in a country, that does not respect IP rights that much. Just some 💭

  • @3DPrintingViewer
    @3DPrintingViewer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    25:52 that comparison with DJI is more interesting when you take into account that the founders of Bambu Lab were ex employees of DJI

  • @matloo
    @matloo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the mystery object music and still miss the feature

    • @KalleKilponen
      @KalleKilponen ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe print the mystery object could make a return to Tested? The X1C would certainly make it pretty effortless, with the automatic timelapse and quick print times. ;)

  • @shinjiiiiiiiiii
    @shinjiiiiiiiiii ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m blown away by my X1C coming from an Ender 3. The max speed/acceleration travel movements are so fast you will miss it if you blink. It is so unreal to watch.

  • @juergen_de
    @juergen_de ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this great review! I had some trouble with this Printer in case of print quality. Then i realized that the quality could be much better printing with HQ settings (using more time)

  • @RCPhotosVideos
    @RCPhotosVideos ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best printers I have purchased! compared to my Raise3d, Markforged and Prusa.

  • @jonathan.sullivan
    @jonathan.sullivan ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a Y feed you can print for the back that will allow you to switch to the back spool pretty quickly.

  • @marijuanas
    @marijuanas ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I kickstarted this project and have had my printer since September or so and really love it. Glad you guys got around to trying it out!

  • @offearth3d
    @offearth3d ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Glad you got your hands on this printer. It’s really a new level of FDM printing in what has seemed to be a very stagnant market.

  • @triadxtechnologies
    @triadxtechnologies ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting you mentioned DJI, since it was DJI engineers that did the Bambu X1C...

  • @GoetiaTV
    @GoetiaTV ปีที่แล้ว

    The CT of the “ludicrous” speed one gave me the heebie-jeebies 😮

  • @thegarageluthier
    @thegarageluthier ปีที่แล้ว +6

    All th slicer functionality you spoke about was actually developed by Prusa in Prusaslicer and just utilized by Bambu.

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not entirely. Is a fork of it, but Bambu techs have done a lot of their own work in the open source software. They are continually bringing out new firmware, as well as implementing features that come out on Prusa.
      Edit: also Prusa is a fork of Slic3r

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      YUUUUUP companies constantly copying open source stuff, slapping a brand on it, and proprietary for their machine is absolutely infuriating and serves no benefit but to lock you in and risk a subscription or bricked machine

    • @thegarageluthier
      @thegarageluthier ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boonjabby none of the features mentioned were implemented by Bambu. The things they have actually added to the slicer they are still keeping under lock and key.

    • @Artificial.Unintelligence
      @Artificial.Unintelligence ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Broski Snowski I don't think you can call something a fork when you copy 98% of it 🤷‍♂️

    • @breezebuilder_
      @breezebuilder_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Artificial.Unintelligence Bambu Studio is open source, as required by the GPL3 license of Prusa Slicer. It's also been forked and improved on as Orca Slicer, which has added support for many other printers on the market.

  • @spar-fuchs24de
    @spar-fuchs24de ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We own a couple of those printers and theyre working well :)

  • @aeonjoey3d
    @aeonjoey3d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    on Creality K1 you can only change the speed from the front touch panel, period. if you root the printer you can access via Fluid as a slider, but whichever way you do it, the printer STOPS cold, jerks and starts the new speed and ALWAYS messes up your print regardless of wether you're speeding up or slowing down. on Bambu, there's almost no difference except the sheen of the side walls.

  • @eduardsklyanin8541
    @eduardsklyanin8541 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had 3 other machines before I got my x1 carbon. This is the easiest machine to use by far, even nozzle changes.

  • @CaptainOverLoad
    @CaptainOverLoad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want a new 3d printer. A large print bed printer, that prints good outside the box so i do not have to post process so much before i paint. I've been looking into resin printers because of the factory looking finishes you can get but ultimately I'm on the fence on everything which leads me into just sticking with my ender 3. I would gladly drop a 1500 on a printer to end all printers, that would be the last printer i owned for the next 10 years. I'm just unsure of what i would like to get.

  • @samualwilliamson1187
    @samualwilliamson1187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The faster we build Benchy, the better!!

  • @230bdaniel
    @230bdaniel 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After watching this I was convinced and bought an X1 Carbon and all of the filaments and accessories. Carefully followed the enclosed instructions, placed it on a granite slab to eliminate vibration. First print? Nope fails to do anything buy display errors and Bambulabs support is taking forever for some reason. If I don't get the thing working pretty soon I am sending the entire batch back for a refund.

  • @JohnVanderbeck
    @JohnVanderbeck 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been hearing a lot about this printer, but the price is up at the Prusa level. Is the quality and reliability also at that level? I started my journey in FDM printing back with a cheaper Ender 3 printer and while it "worked" it was a night and day difference when I got my first Prusa printer. That thing was and still is insanely reliable.

  • @ronwoodward716
    @ronwoodward716 ปีที่แล้ว

    You talked about the Bambu cloud. What is it? Do you have to use the cloud to print? What features are only available if you are connected to the Bambu cloud? What features are not available if you do not use the Bambu cloud? How much does it cost to use the Bambu cloud?

  • @codyhanthorn4270
    @codyhanthorn4270 ปีที่แล้ว

    So being in the prusa land the advertised benchy is 20 minutes ish. Looks like this is still a tad faster. I could see most printers reaching these speeds in a year. This is a really nice printer.

  • @shermantank25
    @shermantank25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Norm, the CEO of Bambulabs was the product manager of the DJI Magic Pro! 😉

  • @markc1793
    @markc1793 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing i wanted to know, and haven't seen mentioned anywhere, one of the annoyances for FDM is never being entirely sure how much filament is left on a roll and if it'll be enough for a certain model etc... so i was wondering, if you load up the AMS with new rolls, does it keep track of how much of each roll it's used, either in weight or distance? I wouldn't expect it to be able to do it if you changed out filaments, but surely it knows what you've told it you've loaded (i.e 1kg 1.75mm pla) and it must know how much it's extruding, purging etc... just thought it'd be a cool feature.

    • @Thrashko
      @Thrashko ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @22:23

    • @oorischubert4085
      @oorischubert4085 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you run out it can switch to a different spool in the ams

    • @EvilSewnit
      @EvilSewnit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some spools have markers to tell how much is left in length and weight, and slicers will often tell you how much filament is needed for a print

    • @richardensign4911
      @richardensign4911 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Using the AMS, the Bambu Lab filament has a RFID, so when I have put a partial role back into the AMS, you can see on the monitor what percentage of filament is left. (He shows this at about 22:50 in the video). To the best of my knowledge, it doesn’t give you an exact percent or length of filament left, but you can get a pretty good ideas by looking at the screen. If you are concerned about it running out, you can load the same filament in another AMS slot, and it will switch over when the first runs out. I haven’t done a lot of multi-color prints, but have my favorite filaments in the AMS, so easy to pick from the computer what you want to use.

  • @iambear.6526
    @iambear.6526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    X1 Carbon is also the name of a Thinkpad series...

  • @JohnScherer
    @JohnScherer ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You list closed source as a down side, yet one of tested’s favorite resin printers (form labs) is decidedly closed source.

    • @liquidpza
      @liquidpza ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't understand the issue here. Even things that we love have downsides. Both Formlabs and Bambu make great products, with the downside of being closed source.

    • @JohnScherer
      @JohnScherer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@liquidpza the point I was trying to make is closed source was not a downside of the Formlabs printer when they did their review

  • @CHTO82
    @CHTO82 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible to connect the unit to something like octoprint? Can I use it without connecting it to their cloud service?

  • @heyspookyboogie644
    @heyspookyboogie644 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It’s actually priced really well for what it is and does. BUT really makes the most sense for people who want their 3D printer to be more of an appliance than a hobby.

    • @VincentGroenewold
      @VincentGroenewold ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@meanderinoranges A Prusa is not known to be a tinker machine, you just are able to, but it's reliable as well. The problem with the Bambu is that it's closed, no good way to fix things yourself or change anything and that holds me back, because I've been burnt before by companies going out of business and leaving me with a paper weight.

    • @robblly8112
      @robblly8112 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@VincentGroenewold bambu clarified before that if they ever go out of business, they’d open source *everything* with the printer to the community.

  • @NinjaForHire
    @NinjaForHire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Before you go and get a 3D printer on this level where everything just works I feel like you need to learn the ins and outs of a lower class printer in order to learn the growing pains, and maintenance of what real 3D printing is like. This is more like the last and best printer you will buy after learning how to use different slicer programs and whatnot.

    • @Lyoishi
      @Lyoishi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I personally do not regret using hundreds of hours of learning to troubleshoot a poor quality printer. There is still plenty of troubleshooting with filaments, print settings, and modifying models without having to ask if the printer is broken.

  • @addohm
    @addohm ปีที่แล้ว

    "3 axis volume" i chuckled.

  • @dalecherne5377
    @dalecherne5377 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:45 Sounds like a sound effect from the old Dr Who's in the 80s lol

  • @killroy713
    @killroy713 ปีที่แล้ว

    What cost?.... your soul! Love to see you guys build a voron

  • @MrAcuta73
    @MrAcuta73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to buy one....but not til they hit Gen 2. Should have most of the bugs worked out by then. Still not sure whether I need or even want AMS. Will cross that bridge when I come to it, I suppose.
    Also hoping Elegoo puts out an 8k+ Jupiter that has the lead screw runout issues dealt with.
    Edit: I need to find that water bear (tardigrade) print!! COOL!!!!

  • @zeeshankhaliq9179
    @zeeshankhaliq9179 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get those cool shelves in the back from? Or did you make them yourself?

  • @divisiononehater
    @divisiononehater 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    where did you get the tardigrade model? thanks

  • @user-jt5vm3mi1w
    @user-jt5vm3mi1w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want one but they don't sell on amazon

  • @Shinobubu
    @Shinobubu ปีที่แล้ว

    I own both Resin and FDM. if you need to make anything practical from parts to tools FDM is the only option really. not to mention it can print real plastics with UV stability while Resin can't survive with out being coated in paint.

  • @cg3d292
    @cg3d292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greate review content. Thanks!

  • @thaphreak
    @thaphreak ปีที่แล้ว

    Norm is the epitome of "Pro-sumer" :)

  • @erikhoffmann1252
    @erikhoffmann1252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good review!

  • @dirkmanderin
    @dirkmanderin ปีที่แล้ว

    I have this printer without the AMS. Only had 2 prints file and it's fast as hell.

  • @PeterDavila-mx9ni
    @PeterDavila-mx9ni ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thank you.
    Question: Can I send this printer a 3D file created with SolidWorks?

  • @Average-Al
    @Average-Al ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Thank you for a nice practical review. Consider getting one with the AMS for the practicality. Printing in multicolor seems too much waste.
    Before I decide I need to figure out if it will with my space. How tall is the unit in Cm with the AMS installed and how much extra space is needed above it to be able to open the AMS? I have some shelves to consider.

  • @gravballemandendk
    @gravballemandendk ปีที่แล้ว

    cancled my mk4 kit, and orderes this x1c with ams, cheaper than ordering the mk4 kit, and adding the official enclousre for it.. and it gives me a better finish solution with ams.

  • @robob3ar
    @robob3ar ปีที่แล้ว

    you can't do the lidar scan on textured pei? why, I ordered bambu with ams and textured pei..
    .. same reason why I want ams - it's a bit tedious to switch colors.. I hate at how wasteful it is - I wander can you actually mix colors, like with those rainbow filaments..
    .. and like it said - if I can spill the waste into another object, that sounds cool as well ..
    ..BTW top layer ironing is available on prusa slicer for a while, but cool - btw did you select iron all the top most layers, or just the top layer - bottom orange one looks standard..

  • @brokencreationlordmegatrol3037
    @brokencreationlordmegatrol3037 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i love that this company basically changed the printer industry just like creality did with the ender3

  • @V1N_574
    @V1N_574 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this be the perfect printer for a farm of 3d printer?

  • @vinnnocc
    @vinnnocc ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my bambu X1C ❤❤❤

  • @dougharlow6037
    @dougharlow6037 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this considered a high definition printer

  • @Niloc1922
    @Niloc1922 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only a year late on this! Nice!

  • @hood1148
    @hood1148 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @tested Which mid range (£800 avg), core xy, enclosed printer do u recommend?

  • @redpineapple9908
    @redpineapple9908 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Darth Vader print - is that PLA? I might have missed if you stated what the material is....

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV ปีที่แล้ว

    Yup, still want one

  • @jongaea
    @jongaea 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yea i get the multi color is awesome in a lot of ways but, when printing like that sign for example. I'm just gunna fkn hand paint the details, it gives a quality like no other and people will pay more for quality over quantity most of the time, based on what I hear people say.

  • @orange42
    @orange42 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the AMS keep the filament dry for storage?

  • @BLV-3D
    @BLV-3D ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The BambuLab X1C an amazing machine. Prusa, voron and the others are 1000 steps behind..

    • @LilApe
      @LilApe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bambu lab wouldn't exist if it weren't for prusa and voron lol.

    • @robblly8112
      @robblly8112 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LilApe and yet… they’re 1000 steps behind

  • @jean-marcgruninger9019
    @jean-marcgruninger9019 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think Norm should do a voron 2.4

  • @Piguanaman
    @Piguanaman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the black on top of the "silent" Benchy?

    • @cynic5581
      @cynic5581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To me it looked like sharpy writing probably to identify which is which once they were all printed.

  • @botoepfer8588
    @botoepfer8588 ปีที่แล้ว

    will this machine print with PET G filliment? and is ther a way to build something 14" in dia?

  • @Lokiawa
    @Lokiawa ปีที่แล้ว

    God, I wish I had the money and could trade the failure that is my Ender 5-Plus for the Bambu printer...
    Over a year of trying to get it to work (print correctly) I call it a failure and it makes me depressed everyday that I sit next to it.

  • @kudkoc
    @kudkoc ปีที่แล้ว

    We want Voron! We want Voron! :)

  • @KramerEspinoza
    @KramerEspinoza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you operate it from Linux?

  • @nathkrupa3463
    @nathkrupa3463 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow nice printer norm sir

  • @lucasmonson6672
    @lucasmonson6672 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone know if it is good for printing tabletop miniatures and monsters?

    • @ly2
      @ly2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd ask around on DIscord servers

  • @tomhorsley6566
    @tomhorsley6566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You didn't show us the moon lamp turned on!