14:03 - To see improvements of tinier pulse widths you may want to increase the moving speed. On TestUFO at default ~1000 px/sec motion speed anything sub 1 ms MPRT won't be visible because its too slow. At 540Hz, PG248QP 10-100 pulse widths (2.5-25% duty cycle) are 0.05-0.46 ms MPRT, meaning you'll need speeds between 20520-2160 px/sec to spot all the pulse differences. Decreasing refresh rates will help too, but since 360 Hz is minimum that would only change speeds to 1440-13680 px/sec. That's how much speed PG248QP can handle without motion breaking appart; well at least the persistence part of motion. Crazy stuff! I'd say anything above ~4000 px/sec is unrealistic case to eye-track on a 1080p 24" display. And main goal of motion blur reduction is to reduce eye-tracking induced motion blur. There are no benefits from such feature if not eye-tracking. We could say it's kinda overkill MPRT. However it will come in handy for higher resolutions.
Even so, you need a baseline to compare with other monitors and for that the default 1000px/s is sufficient as it gives the viewer a sense of relative clarity between different panels... or maybe Tim should start comparing 240+ Hz monitors with 2000-4000 px/s :-)
@@KennyT187 I'd love to see that at least for strobe modes. I've seen pictures of PG248QP ULMB2 at 1920 px/sec and crosstalk really starts to look different. But even for standard sample-and-hold modes slow speeds can hide alot of ghosting too. 1000 px/sec is easy to camera-track and even easier on higher resolutions. However it very quickly became insufficient. Default speed would probably need to adapt as display industry evolves.
Unless I'm missing something the Avg GtG (so best case scenario) response time was 2.31ms which is 432.9Hz. How do you run a higher refresh rate than your pixel response rate without causing issues?
@@cincybeck You are missing something. Average GtG was 1.8ms on normal OD, and 1.59ms on Esports mode. That's 555Hz and 628Hz, respectively. On average, with the esports mode you have over 90% compliance with the refresh rate. That's absolutely outstanding.
BTW TestUFO 2.0 is out coming shortly! Yes, we recommend 1920 pixels/sec for strobed pulsewidth tests, since: 2ms MPRT = 4 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec 1ms MPRT = 2 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec 0.5ms MPRT = 1 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec 1920pix/sec provides an amazing way to show 0.5ms MPRT and 1.0ms MPRT is actually human visible.
@@shadowprice8100Even if you are sitting directly in front of the monitor, you’re still only in front of the middle of your screen. The corners and sides of the monitors colors will still shift significantly.
@@ThisIsExile91 exactly... and this is why spending 1000€ on this monitor makes no sense. I would rather wait 1 year for Oled 360hz, because it will be enough to defeat this monitor.
I really, really, really hope good tn panels arrive to the market. I am at this point sick of and given up on ips glow, va smear and oled text clarity issues. I'm willing to sacrifice viewing angles for the sake of having a good 2K or 4K tn panel with above average contrast like this one in the video
@@HumbleDude46995 they are providing a review with numbers which is literally every data you can get from a monitor to decide for yourself, they aren’t just saying “this monitor is amazing buy now!!” like other youtubers. What do you want more? There is also nothing wrong with pre review. It’s also done for games too.
@@HumbleDude46995 Buy it and decide for yourself then. Highly doubt you even have the tools or know-how to test a panel. Nor do I believe you have a platform to distribute that data to an audience.
This is awesome. Can't wait until we have 1440p and 4K 500hz+ monitors. Might be a while, but it's fascinating to watch the new screen and GPU tech roll outs.
I mean there are diminishing returns, because like the jump from 240 to 360 is in terms of smoothness bump not equal to the jump from 60 to 144, but it's way, way less deminishing then people make it out to be. 240 to 360 and 360 to 540 are still very noticable jumps even when just talking about smoothness
When you get OLED refreshing at this frame rate, you will have a display that handles motion within a stones throw of old school picture tube displays.
Excellent review Tim! I'm guessing this officially makes the 4090 a 1080p GPU. BTW, there's a point at which I can't notice the visual improvement as refresh increases. However, I can always feel an improvement to input latency. Not sure I'd go back to 1080p for 540 Hz, but I'd definitely consider TN again if 540 Hz were available at 1440p, and a bigger panel.
refresh rate creating close to perfect smooth image seems to be at 1000hz, it is the human brain/eye creating ghosting on sample and hold screens that is the biggest reason, otherwise i think that 500hz would be enough. latency improvement is also depended on the game engine, cyberpunk has high inputlag vs other game engines at same fps. but there is a input lag test you can do and then convert the ms results into fps. think it all falls between 500 to 1000 hz/fps when you feel no input lag, see no ghosting and smooth image.
Nope guarantee you'd still be massively cpu bound even with a 4080 at 500 fps targets. Apex would be the only argument if the game wasn't capped to 300fps anyway. Actually no I get like 200fps at 1440p medium with a 3060 ti.
OLED is not magic it's still a sample and hold display technology like LCD. 540hz is 1.85ms of persistence blur, 240hz is 4.2ms of persistence blur, it's to big of a gap in raw framerate for OLED to match 540hz. The 360hz 1440p OLED coming out next year probably will be very close.
Already compared by Optimum. This smokes the oled. Next year there's going to be 360 Hz QD-OLED and 480 Hz OLED. One of them will probably reign supreme.
This. I've tried the 27" 1440p360hz PG27AQN IPS w/ULMB2, 27" 1440p240hz PG27AQDM W-OLED (which I've settled for due to zero eyestrain and personal preference, and my main productivity panel being the PG42UQ made the switch to non-OLED too glaring), as well the Zowie XL2566K w/DyAc+ (1080p360hz). I also have an A95L and definitely agree that QD looks much better - especially glossy.
It's awesome to see for just straight up higher Hz and pushing refresh rate higher. I'd expect and hope 1000Hz is straight up OLED though. But OLED monitors need to have proper feature set, so BFI, DFR and proper port like DP 2.1.
I'm not sure 1000Hz is actually needed. I mean I understand a lot of people will say we don't even need more than 60Hz, but with the 500Hz limit being crossed, I think we really are at the very edge of smoothness that the human eye can perceive and going further will require exponentially more expensive hardware for differences that are either indiscernible or extremely tiny.
@@EvilTim1911 actually, still benefit that is visible at 1000hz. We had lcd garbage for far too long, some don't know the crt smoothness even. We've only got back to it with some fastest lcds lately. To keep it short, there is whole thing about it on blurbusters site.
@@EvilTim1911I've heard 1000 hz is where they say peak performance is. But as you said some people are like omg no 30 is. So I wouldn't be surprised that once we hit 1000 you can definitely see th difference with 2000. And the hardware is fine. You can already get close in games like cs vallie and rainbow. There are some even older or shittier games where you can pass 1000. Obviously this isn't intended for 4k Ray tracing on a brand new AAA title. It's for basic shooters.
There is no way in hell you are going to notice any difference past 240hz that's already very high as it is, it is diminishing returns beyond that point@@Rspsand07
I've heard the Acer Nitro XV242F uses the same panel as this without the gsync module at a much lower price point. Looking forward to its release worldwide.
@@alexatkinsurely at this high of refresh rate you wouldn't be able to notice a difference between 480hz and 500hz when playing 24fps, right? Now I'm very curious
@@Issvor the problem is that non-matching Hz causes constant stuttering to the video. Ideally you would match the content's FPS. And generally it's better to have one monitor for e-sports and completely another (TV) for movies etc.
People are just built different. When theres people saying we are getting diminishing return on the higher refrsh rates, my eyes still get hurt from the blur caused by low refresh speed on 360hz. I need to try this 540hz soon.
This monitor looks amazing, but I gotta say I love this channel! Every review is just so in-depth and very interesting to watch even if I don't care about that monitor. I could watch almost every monitor review on this channel and without even being interested in that certain monitor and still like the content and the way the details are delivered. Great job!
I have an Alienware AW3423DWF & Asus PG27AQN. Desktop use feels slow on the Alienware due to its 165hz compared to the 360hz Asus. So I'm in the same boat that more Hz, the better.
As technologically impressive as this is... wake me up when we hit 360 or more on an OLED panel. I'd like to see the graphs for that. Furthermore I've gone 1440p and won't go back anyway...
@@dat_21 Sure, if your goal in life is to play AAA titles only. I don't have time for such and the few games I would care about in the future are incredibly unlikely to decide to pull a Crysis.
I’m excited that we have a TN panel that is trading blows with IPS for color handling. Where was this LCD 20 years ago? Lol A dream would be this panel with an HDR capable full screen, 1000 nits and local dimming.
I had the monitor two days and took it back. It’s truly amazing, at least the motion clarity. My gripes were the colors, 1080p, and price. Say this was $600. Idve kept it. It’s actually a cheat code in terms of what you can do to people in online lobbies. But that’s pretty much all it can do, FPS game. If it were OLED, at least then the colors allow you to use it as a full on gaming monitor. But yea. This is simply an FPS Gaming monitor, and unless you’re the person to have a separate car for driving, then sport driving, you don’t need this monitor.
Great Review! I really don't understand why big companies like Alienware, Acer, MSI etc. Aren't doing monitors like this with E-TN Panels. Like they are targeting competitive players and Instead they decide to go blurry IPS panels that have worse motion clarity. Like if they didn't know that competitive players actually care about input lag and motion, way more than colors.
That's just it though... I don't think they are targeting competitive FPS gamers with their 240Hz IPS and OLED panels. The reality is, competitive gamers are a tiny market. Most gamers do so casually and are more likely to look for a good balance of performance and color accuracy.
Well.. It's not for every day use. It has a VERY specific field of use and for that 1080p is actually great. If I had the space, I'd literally have 2 desk setups (normal 3x1440p, and an Esport setup with smth like this here and nothing else to distract).
I'm finally upgrading from my old Acer XB270HU 2k 144hz IPS monitor, and ordered Asus TUF VG27AQM1A 2k 260hz IPS monitor for $385. I hope you guys in Australia can get your hand on a unit soon as I am interested to know how does it compete to the MSI/LG/Gigabyte 2k 240hz IPS panels.
Supposedly there is even 480Hz 1080p OLED in the works but im unsure if it's a separate panel or simply a "mode" for lower refresh/higher resolution panel.
@@Cuthalu You're right. here's the image from TFT Central. It's a 2025 product: tftcentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/oled_panel_roadmap_aug2023.jpg
Please do the new Dell Ultrasharp U2724DE. It's a bit different, it's an office monitor, but Dell upped the ante with 120hz refresh, it supports HDMI VRR and it's IPS Black (much better contrast). It doesn't compete with current recomendations but it would be an interesting monitor to review.
yea for $900, you are CERTAINLY better off getting the AQN IPS 360hz. which has ULMB2. and of course even better off waiting till Jan 6th and Q1 for the Gen 2 QD-oleds. the AW 1440p 360hz is going to blow this out of the water.
Excellent review! And yes, TN will have the terrible viewing angles issue. I would also warn about Asus quality control. Some years ago I had one of their 27" TN 144Hz ROG displays. It was great as long as viewing dead on as indicated. Problem was, almost in a perfectly timed manner, couple of months after warranty had expired, some striped horizontal lines appeared on the left of the monitor, and it got a lot worse and unbearable in just a few days. In fact before expiration it had another issue: sometimes the exact left-haft of the screen was a couple of pixels off compared to the exact right half, so you would notice this broken vertical line in the very middle of the monitor. That needed to reboot the entire machine, because just turning on and off the monitor changed nothing about it. Had to replace it. Using an LG 27" 165Hz since then, so far problem free. This is an IPS one, so better colors, and no viewing angle issues. Contrast in fact also slightly better because of the improvements IPS had had over the years.
Christ, this is why I want BFI / ULMB to become mainstream. I'm perfectly fine with losing brightness to get that ultra clear motion clarity. I figured OLED would be the best for this, but seems no mfg is making this happen. Guess I'll just have to still wait a few years for this to come in something like a 3440x1440 size.
@@daviddave8761 I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say _"What else?"_ This was just a rando comment about justifying/validating my desire for BFI in more devices. Personally I'm holding out until I can get awesome BFI on a 3440x1440 display. I just can't go back to 16:9.
more hz is the way :) and i hate that i have to pick between resolution and hz, and i have to pick something in between, compromises is not fun. i want a 4k 540hz and then the game i play decide what can be done, 4k 120hz for slower great looking games, and then 1080p 540hz for when you want motion clarity and low inputlag. and of course anything in between. and hopefully all games can run 4k 240hz in the near future, and support frame generation to get to 540hz. i tried frame gen from 130fps to 240fps and input lag was still there.
@@xpodx 16k is useless lol. I wonder at what point a higher refresh rate makes almost no difference. Going from 360hz to 540hz does make a difference. Going from 4k to 8k... no difference. Hell, going from 1080p to 4k while I saw a big difference...when I actually played the game... I couldn't care less about 4k.
@@lachlanB323 4K is a huge difference and 8K is also another big upgrade though not as big as the jump from 1080p to 4K. 16k however, don’t see it having any merit. Doesn’t matter though, high fidelity and 60~120 fps in 4K is already hard to get in the latest games and I don’t see anyone playing in 8K for the next 10 years. Everything above 240hz is a placebo though.
@Lock2002ful company's will always find new ways to advance and improve, and there are older titles that are easy to run. I'm gonna get 8k 144hz next, but for now using my 4k 144hz and 5k 60
If manufacturers can produce this level of performance at 1440p, I'm going to grab it. As I'm still on Windows 10, AMD VRR being capped at 500 Hz has absolutely no impact on my consideration.
@@HarperSmith-e7t I don't upgrade my monitor nearly as often as my other hardware. So a monitor that I unlock the full potential of over time is fine by me.
I thought after watching this review I would be more tempted to buy one but it actually just made me even more excited for the AW2725DF! 27” 1440P 360Hz QD-OLED with a glossy finish baby!
@@wherearemytesticlesI don't know why people belive that motion clarity and smoother motion is only useful for esports this is absolutely not true, the quality of motion is a joy even for casual games and even for desktop use tim mentioned it. refreshrate and framerates matter for ALL content that same way resolution does.
@@brett20000000009 I guess the better question is, why would you pick this over an OLED? better pixel response times, similiar latency, significantly better image quality, higher resolution... the point is that you are sacrificing a lot just for that faster speed, and the only reason anyone with eyes would do that is for a competitive advantage.
540 Hz ought to be enough for everyone :) You highlight the monitor missing HDMI 2.1 but only having DisplayPort 1.4 with DSC rather than DisplayPort 2 also seems to be a bit of a misstep. Is that a limitation of the GSync module? Does ULMB work on Intel Arc GPUs?
540hz I nowhere near enough for life-like motion portrayal. Solving stroboscopic stepping for example would require extremely high refresh rates like 20KHz. You can find more info about that artifact in the article "The Stroboscopic Effect Of Finite Frame Rate Displays" by Mark Rejhon of Blurbusters.
I don't think high refresh rates are novelty. They're legitimately super useful and enhancers your experience, they're just hard to drive in modern hardware outside of a few ultra optimized games
External reticles aren't allowed, be it putting a Sharpie dot on the screen or enabling a hardware crosshair like some monitors have. This isn't really enforcable in online play and would be obvious to tournament admins on LAN where things truly count.
i just found this piece of news "OLED panel with 4K and 240Hz refresh rate from LG Display that also has an option to run 480Hz at 1080p, with so-called DFR (Dynamic Frequency and Resolution) technology." 2024 could be a great year, now if only all games got frame gen also, some game just can not get above 120 if you hit it with a nuke.
why would a crosshair be cheating? At most it simply ENABLES a player to have a crosshair style they prefer. It’s simply a matter of preference and generally has only the slightest “advantage” when hipfiring.
@@evaone4286 Tn is awful to look at. Va can be great if you get high end Samsung panel and has better dark blacks. Cheap va is ok but you do get black smear and ghosting but this doesn't bother some people if it's minor
@@evaone4286 I’ve used a TN Panel when the only 1440p 140hz was TN. It is fine. People are overblowing the cons. How many times do you look at your monitor from under your keyboard? I still prefer IPS but TN is more than fine.
I would, I don't care about anything else besides the response time being as fast as possible. And this one is far from other TN's in terms of color reproduction.
10:16 The math here is reversed, it is wrong to say PG248QP is 31% better than PG27AQN, it is 23% better, it would be correct to say the PG27AQN is 31% worse. Which stat should be taken as the denominator should switch between higher is better and lower is better. Also same for the comparison against the XL2566K.
If you live with your parents, you should be able to work a minimum wage job and save your money for a month and have enough money to get a high-end GPU.
I'd like to see you run OW2 at any settings at 1 % lows above 540 or even 480 in every map. Avg fps isn't useful metric - you need the fps the most in situations where it's the lowest (active fights). And 5600x definitely can't do that, even 7800x3d can't pull it off.@@philistine3260
I would suggest avoiding the term "Fake HDR" as it's problematic since there isn't a clear cutoff line where something is or isn't "Fake HDR". Simply stating the contrast and gamut it can achieve, along with testing how accurate it's EOTF tracking is, should do the trick. 1000 nit HDR monitor with bad accuracy and terrible local dimming implementation using only 32 zones such as Philips 436M6VBPAB could be considered "True HDR", yet having accurate 400 nit HDR with no local dimming is probably preferable.
@@Davinmk I'm cool with certifications, as they are at least clearly defined, even though they are often gamed and exploited by manufacturers. But "true hdr" is not a formal certificate, in this case, as I understand, it refers to Monitor Unboxed considering the monitor to be a bad choice overall regarding HDR experience. And while that kind of judgement is perfectly fine, and a totally legit thing to be presented in a review, my point is that due to the nature of HDR, how good HDR implementation is, is simply not a binary thing, but a gradient, so it would be much better represented by a percentage or a number of stars or something, otherwise it will always be misleading in borderline cases, and this monitor is arguably one such borderline case.
What else can they do when the existing certifications are so useless? They really do need to be very clear that a "HDR400" monitor most likely won't be able to properly display a HDR signal, otherwise a lot of people just see the rating and think they're actually getting something of value. I don't think HUB's definition of "fake" is all that subjective either, what they want is basically ok tracking + decent peak brightness + enough backlight zones to maintain contrast in an average HDR scene. The measurement data is then used to give a more thorough look at HDR performance overall.
@@ozzyp97 I work professionally with HDR. What I'm trying to point to is that any judgement of what counts as "properly" displaying HDR signal will always be arbitrary. There isn't a magical cut off point where HDR becomes proper, or true, or whatever else. Instead, any additional nit over the standard SDR range of ~200 is a benefit over SDR, just as every additional % of gamut coverage beyond that of sRGB gamut is also a benefit over SDR. As long as the screen is accurate in HDR, any amount of HDR is a benefit over SDR. Even if a display had strictly SDR capabilities of brightness and color gamut, it would still benefit from increased bit depth. And perfectly displaying HDR up to 10 000 nits and 100% of BT2020 might become possible decades in the future, but until then, nothing will be able to "properly" display HDR in an objective sense.
Most specs sound very good on paper and I will give props to Asus for getting such high refresh rate and 1400 contrast on a TN panel. However, it's sadly still a 1080p display. It's 2023... I just, can't, sorry.
@@dive_whale Yes, this would also be my guess. And 1080p is also considerably easier to run than 1440p or 4K resolutions ofc. I understand where the niche/market for this product is, I just don't care for 1080p screens anymore myself. And I also don't play any of those games.
If desktop use is so much smoother and responsive, why is 60hz still the default monitor? Seems to me its time to retire 60hz even for productivity and casual use...
Yea even Dell now has office monitors with 120Hz and IPS Black that should get them closer to VA contrast. 60Hz or below could have some uses for E-Ink, longer battery life or similar situations but largely 120Hz is so cheap there is no point to saving literal cents by going with 60Hz.
i noticed the hyperx armada 25 is listed in these charts, but i don't recall you reviewing that specific model - just the armada 27. did i miss the review? my local micro center has the armada 25 for $130us & it seems like a pretty great deal. armada 27 for $180 is also a good value imo.
I was like, you can only get up to $550 bc of refresh rate. For $300 more you can get curved ultrawide oled 1440p 165hz monitor that destroys this mess.
Comparing bananas to Ferraris. Those monitors are for completely different uses. Since this is specifically for the highest performance in fast paced games, that 165 Hz oled would be terrible in comparison.@@fiece4767
You're probably not gonna get a low enough response time and input lag for 540hz if they decided to go with ips. I'm still kinda lost on why this isn't an oled tho😭
540 Hz sounds really cool unitl you remember that there's only a dozen or so games that can render more than 500 fps... A bunch of single player games have engine limitations well below even 300 fps, so buying this monitor for single player games is pointless. And on the other hand, unless you're a top tier pro in Counter-Strike, Valorant, Rainbow Six: Siege or Overwatch - you're just wasting your money.
The majority of your time using the monitor will typically be at 540fps. Because that's what the desktop will run at. And I also want to push back on the "top tier pro" argument. It's unfortunate that high refresh rate is so much marketed as an esport feature when in reality it gives a much more significant improvement to comfort and immersion than it does to gaming performance.
@@hastesoldat Are you seriously justifying spending that much money for simply browsing the web??? Knowing full well that this monitor being a TN panel is horrible for regular desktop usage and also that you're NEVER going to move your mouse so fast to even register 500 Hz in desktop?
@@oldschoolmk7056 I'm not giving purchase advices here. I'm just telling you that you will see clear benefits on the desktop. And your assumption about mouse speed is incorrect. Even a slow 1000 pixels/second cursor movement would defeat 540Hz already as you would see a trail of stroboscopic steps lagging behind your cursor, each separated by about 2 pixels-wide gaps. We are still at the very beginning of the journey towards life-like motion portrayal.
Thank Nvidia and their old G-Sync module that adds +200 to the price and comes with a fan and higher noise/power. Also old ports. Selling 900+ monitor in 2023 with DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. Those standards were introduced in 2018 and 2016 respectively btw.
My biggest gripe with this monitor is not supporting ULMB 2 below 360hz when NVIDIA said ULMB 2 works down to 120hz (although they demonstrated it working at 60hz during presentations) so it seems like an arbitrary restriction. Lower hz/fps = worse motion clarity which = backlight strobing being more useful. For competitive games that struggle hitting a consistent 360fps (COD) or singleplayer games where 60-120fps is more reasonable I'd love to get strobed image clarity. At $900 not having something as basic as that as a deal breaker, it makes the benefits of this monitor niche as you only get the benefits this monitor offers in a few titles whereas if they just freed up more refresh rate ranges it can be enjoyed by many different kind of gamers in many more games, thus might actually be worth the premium price tag
Hi Tim, I was surprised to hear that you didn't experience diminishing returns when going from 144/240Hz to 540Hz, and was curious as to whether you know why that is? Unless I'm mistaken, the Blur Busters Law of Motion Blur is useful for going up to a certain motion speed, and going beyond that (for a fixed refresh rate) would mean that human-induced motion blur becomes more of a factor as opposed to monitor-induced motion blur. Do you think that there is any perception blending taking place for high speed content displayed on a high refresh rate monitor? If that weren't the case, then it would mean that there are still benefits for going beyond 360Hz/540Hz.
The perception has shifted up a tick. 540 is the new 360, 360 the new 240, 240 the new 120, 120 the new 60, 60 the new 30, and 30...we don't talk about that lol
I suspect the upcoming Zowie XL2586X 540hz DYAC 2 panel will compete with this Asus. Possibly offering DYAC 2 at 100hz and above. Curious to see if Zowie will match the impressive contrast ratio of the Asus though.
I have never heard of a 24.5 inch 1080P OLED that's what's making me hesitate for competitive games on an OLED. I don't think I could play fps games on a 1440p compared to a 1080p 24.5 inch display.
@walterliou8729 as a previous competitor gamer, MLG events in the 2000s. Going from 24.5 to 27, is barely noticeable and I was worried too. You are talking about a 1.5 inch increase diagonally each way. I originally got the 27" 1080p 240hz TN Asus. Which I now have as my side monitor, bc I upgraded to the 27" 240hz 1440p version when it came out. For sweaty kids, I would still reccomend the AQN 360hz 1440p version. I returned the OLED AQDM, it had so many problems. But I'm definitely upgrading to the 32" 4k 240hz in Q1. And maybe get the 27" 1440p 360hz too. Not sure yet
Why wasn’t the Alienware AW2524H included in the comparisons? It’s the obvious competitor in the market today being the only other monitor capable of 500Hz.
I disagree. I have both this 540hz and 500hz Alienware at the moment. The Alienware is a much clearer image and colors are more pleasant to look at. Asus really messed up the anti glare coating on this one unless I got a bad one. The coating on the Asus just gives a blurry image and effectively seems to cut my resolution in half. The Asus is the faster monitor though
@@zekethep1umber ok fair enough. i can only go by what yt optimum tech said. He did review both and described the alienware as lifeless and dull regarding colors although it has an ips panel. Also the Alienware has no ULMB2. I cant imagine the alienware having a clearer image vs the asus with ulmb2 on. my asus will arrive shortly so we will see..
My problem would be- how long will the overclock last? I have a rog pg248Q and the overclock only lasted a year before it simply stopped overclocking. Also when it did overclock it introduced so much ghosting it wasn't worth it.
Intresting the way monitors are elvoving, from the looks of it 8k might never be a standard ever (or at least not in the forseeable future), especially since ray tracing is so heavy and since we already gonna have 4k 240hz OLED displays, so it just seems that the future of monitors will be mostly 4k with even higher refresh rates.
14:03 - To see improvements of tinier pulse widths you may want to increase the moving speed. On TestUFO at default ~1000 px/sec motion speed anything sub 1 ms MPRT won't be visible because its too slow. At 540Hz, PG248QP 10-100 pulse widths (2.5-25% duty cycle) are 0.05-0.46 ms MPRT, meaning you'll need speeds between 20520-2160 px/sec to spot all the pulse differences. Decreasing refresh rates will help too, but since 360 Hz is minimum that would only change speeds to 1440-13680 px/sec. That's how much speed PG248QP can handle without motion breaking appart; well at least the persistence part of motion. Crazy stuff!
I'd say anything above ~4000 px/sec is unrealistic case to eye-track on a 1080p 24" display. And main goal of motion blur reduction is to reduce eye-tracking induced motion blur. There are no benefits from such feature if not eye-tracking. We could say it's kinda overkill MPRT. However it will come in handy for higher resolutions.
Even so, you need a baseline to compare with other monitors and for that the default 1000px/s is sufficient as it gives the viewer a sense of relative clarity between different panels... or maybe Tim should start comparing 240+ Hz monitors with 2000-4000 px/s :-)
@@KennyT187 I'd love to see that at least for strobe modes. I've seen pictures of PG248QP ULMB2 at 1920 px/sec and crosstalk really starts to look different. But even for standard sample-and-hold modes slow speeds can hide alot of ghosting too. 1000 px/sec is easy to camera-track and even easier on higher resolutions. However it very quickly became insufficient. Default speed would probably need to adapt as display industry evolves.
Unless I'm missing something the Avg GtG (so best case scenario) response time was 2.31ms which is 432.9Hz. How do you run a higher refresh rate than your pixel response rate without causing issues?
@@cincybeck You are missing something. Average GtG was 1.8ms on normal OD, and 1.59ms on Esports mode. That's 555Hz and 628Hz, respectively. On average, with the esports mode you have over 90% compliance with the refresh rate. That's absolutely outstanding.
BTW TestUFO 2.0 is out coming shortly!
Yes, we recommend 1920 pixels/sec for strobed pulsewidth tests, since:
2ms MPRT = 4 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec
1ms MPRT = 2 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec
0.5ms MPRT = 1 pixels of motion blur at 2000 pixels/sec
1920pix/sec provides an amazing way to show 0.5ms MPRT and 1.0ms MPRT is actually human visible.
1400 contrast from a TN???? That's actually insane!
True but useless since this contrast is ruined by TN's main problem with viewing angles.
Well if you stare at in front on, then you are fine
@@shadowprice8100Even if you are sitting directly in front of the monitor, you’re still only in front of the middle of your screen. The corners and sides of the monitors colors will still shift significantly.
still can't come close to oleds.
@@sinenomine4540 Not the point. The point is that it's almost as good as good IPS panels
I hope we start seeing more monitors with this level of cumulative deviation and single a overdrive experience in the future.
Yeah, you'll see it all the time as OLED becomes standard.
@@ThisIsExile91 exactly... and this is why spending 1000€ on this monitor makes no sense. I would rather wait 1 year for Oled 360hz, because it will be enough to defeat this monitor.
True enough for Oled although I'd never buy one with the burn in risk.
@@PedroS-ig1wr 360hz OLED coming in January 🤪
@@KingEdgeHead been using a OLED 240Hz for a year every day for 5+ hours a day. Auto Pixel cleaning feature virtually eliminates burn in concern.
That motion clarity was like nothing I've ever seen. The UFO Blur Busters image was practically identical to the reference image!
That color gamut and contrast from a TN panel is actually nuts. We've come a long way from the washed-out abominations of last decade
RIGHT! It performs better than alot of IPS Panels.
@@doctorfresh3856 wow guess I'll have to buy it
and the Omen X27 was also not a kind of these . . .
I really, really, really hope good tn panels arrive to the market.
I am at this point sick of and given up on ips glow, va smear and oled text clarity issues.
I'm willing to sacrifice viewing angles for the sake of having a good 2K or 4K tn panel with above average contrast like this one in the video
I always preferred tn over ips
This is how a review should be. Just amazing testing ethic.
its skewed , they are sending it to content creators instead of letting us decide
@@HumbleDude46995 they are providing a review with numbers which is literally every data you can get from a monitor to decide for yourself, they aren’t just saying “this monitor is amazing buy now!!” like other youtubers. What do you want more? There is also nothing wrong with pre review. It’s also done for games too.
@@HumbleDude46995 Buy it and decide for yourself then. Highly doubt you even have the tools or know-how to test a panel. Nor do I believe you have a platform to distribute that data to an audience.
This is awesome. Can't wait until we have 1440p and 4K 500hz+ monitors. Might be a while, but it's fascinating to watch the new screen and GPU tech roll outs.
that’s going to take a while because which gpu can hit 500fps even in low 4k haha
LG is planning to make a 480hz 1440p OLED panel in 2025
How many games can give you >240 FPS anyway?
its really hard for humans to see the difference between 240 and 360 so above that is gimmicky at this point
@@LamelKendrick no it isn’t lmao
yaaaay 540hz review, long awaited! :) Looks really good, response time are unbelievable, and even the contrast and colors are not bad at all!
framerate won't have diminishing returns we should always keep moving forward with higher frame rates.
I mean there are diminishing returns, because like the jump from 240 to 360 is in terms of smoothness bump not equal to the jump from 60 to 144, but it's way, way less deminishing then people make it out to be. 240 to 360 and 360 to 540 are still very noticable jumps even when just talking about smoothness
i wish display port was standard on everything. kinda like the locking mechanism but can imagine alot of people damaging ports on consoles
console brain gamers
Gonna be insane when we start seeing 500hz oleds
When you get OLED refreshing at this frame rate, you will have a display that handles motion within a stones throw of old school picture tube displays.
@@jamescampbell8482is it due to the nature of OLED panels or will it be fixed eventually?
that would be amazing as derp
That's practically CRT levels of motion clarity with strobing
Excellent review Tim! I'm guessing this officially makes the 4090 a 1080p GPU. BTW, there's a point at which I can't notice the visual improvement as refresh increases. However, I can always feel an improvement to input latency. Not sure I'd go back to 1080p for 540 Hz, but I'd definitely consider TN again if 540 Hz were available at 1440p, and a bigger panel.
spending 1000€ on this monitor makes no sense. I would rather wait 1 year for Oled 360hz, because it will be enough to defeat this monitor.
refresh rate creating close to perfect smooth image seems to be at 1000hz, it is the human brain/eye creating ghosting on sample and hold screens that is the biggest reason, otherwise i think that 500hz would be enough.
latency improvement is also depended on the game engine, cyberpunk has high inputlag vs other game engines at same fps.
but there is a input lag test you can do and then convert the ms results into fps.
think it all falls between 500 to 1000 hz/fps when you feel no input lag, see no ghosting and smooth image.
1440p suck balls in fps games
@@daviddave8761 i agree, 4k is where it gets good. especially apex and battle royals
Nope guarantee you'd still be massively cpu bound even with a 4080 at 500 fps targets. Apex would be the only argument if the game wasn't capped to 300fps anyway. Actually no I get like 200fps at 1440p medium with a 3060 ti.
These reviews are impressively good!
12:58 Never in my life have I seen a clear UFO Test image... that's crazy good.
My Asus Tuf vg258qm 280hz TN comes pretty close.
crazy to think the top rigs can get 540 fps, and actually have a display for it now!
540 fps is definitely achievable in esport games where this monitor is intended for😸
I am looking forward to this monitor being compared to 240Hz oled. Especially in the blurbuster ufo test.
This monitor will be significantly clearer.
OLED is not magic it's still a sample and hold display technology like LCD. 540hz is 1.85ms of persistence blur, 240hz is 4.2ms of persistence blur, it's to big of a gap in raw framerate for OLED to match 540hz. The 360hz 1440p OLED coming out next year probably will be very close.
Already compared by Optimum. This smokes the oled. Next year there's going to be 360 Hz QD-OLED and 480 Hz OLED. One of them will probably reign supreme.
@@Cuthalu Can you provide a link? Dont know Optimum.
This. I've tried the 27" 1440p360hz PG27AQN IPS w/ULMB2, 27" 1440p240hz PG27AQDM W-OLED (which I've settled for due to zero eyestrain and personal preference, and my main productivity panel being the PG42UQ made the switch to non-OLED too glaring), as well the Zowie XL2566K w/DyAc+ (1080p360hz). I also have an A95L and definitely agree that QD looks much better - especially glossy.
It's awesome to see for just straight up higher Hz and pushing refresh rate higher. I'd expect and hope 1000Hz is straight up OLED though. But OLED monitors need to have proper feature set, so BFI, DFR and proper port like DP 2.1.
I'm not sure 1000Hz is actually needed. I mean I understand a lot of people will say we don't even need more than 60Hz, but with the 500Hz limit being crossed, I think we really are at the very edge of smoothness that the human eye can perceive and going further will require exponentially more expensive hardware for differences that are either indiscernible or extremely tiny.
@@EvilTim1911 actually, still benefit that is visible at 1000hz. We had lcd garbage for far too long, some don't know the crt smoothness even. We've only got back to it with some fastest lcds lately. To keep it short, there is whole thing about it on blurbusters site.
360 and 500 hz oleds are upcoming and being worked on already. Do 2.1 is literally required after a certain point.
@@EvilTim1911I've heard 1000 hz is where they say peak performance is. But as you said some people are like omg no 30 is. So I wouldn't be surprised that once we hit 1000 you can definitely see th difference with 2000. And the hardware is fine. You can already get close in games like cs vallie and rainbow. There are some even older or shittier games where you can pass 1000. Obviously this isn't intended for 4k Ray tracing on a brand new AAA title. It's for basic shooters.
There is no way in hell you are going to notice any difference past 240hz that's already very high as it is, it is diminishing returns beyond that point@@Rspsand07
The moniter is a nice tech demo, thank u for the review
I've heard the Acer Nitro XV242F uses the same panel as this without the gsync module at a much lower price point. Looking forward to its release worldwide.
Based on the review it sounds like VRR might top out at 500Hz. Though IMO 480Hz is the sweet spot, as it still allows 24fps videos to play smoothly.
it doesnt have backlight strobing tho does it?
No backlight strobing (like ULMB2) tho?
@@alexatkinsurely at this high of refresh rate you wouldn't be able to notice a difference between 480hz and 500hz when playing 24fps, right? Now I'm very curious
@@Issvor the problem is that non-matching Hz causes constant stuttering to the video. Ideally you would match the content's FPS. And generally it's better to have one monitor for e-sports and completely another (TV) for movies etc.
People are just built different. When theres people saying we are getting diminishing return on the higher refrsh rates, my eyes still get hurt from the blur caused by low refresh speed on 360hz. I need to try this 540hz soon.
This monitor looks amazing, but I gotta say I love this channel! Every review is just so in-depth and very interesting to watch even if I don't care about that monitor. I could watch almost every monitor review on this channel and without even being interested in that certain monitor and still like the content and the way the details are delivered.
Great job!
Why dont they just name it 'PG24F540T'?
PG = some crappy initials
24 = screen size
F = full HD
540 = refresh rate
T = TN
Man i wonder when those 1000hz Nanoled monitors hit the market for under 1000$
That’s what I’m waiting for
make them 4k first
When your grandkids have kids
Only needs an RTX 18900 for just 5000$ to boost 1000hz
@@JanM2I'm more concerned about CPU able to push that much FPS
In this day and age the choise is so clear between 4K 240HZ Oled HDR display & A TN 550Hz + monitor
I have an Alienware AW3423DWF & Asus PG27AQN. Desktop use feels slow on the Alienware due to its 165hz compared to the 360hz Asus. So I'm in the same boat that more Hz, the better.
I just got this monitor yesterday and I could not believe the difference from my normal one love the speed for warzone and cs2
As technologically impressive as this is... wake me up when we hit 360 or more on an OLED panel. I'd like to see the graphs for that.
Furthermore I've gone 1440p and won't go back anyway...
Have you tried 240 Hz OLED?
@@juanblanco7898 Don't have the PC to push 1440p 240Hz, but it's my next goal when GPU prices get to an "acceptable" level.
@@moldyshishkabob Might as well be never. By the time GPUs get better, you will see even more demanding titles.
@@dat_21 Sure, if your goal in life is to play AAA titles only.
I don't have time for such and the few games I would care about in the future are incredibly unlikely to decide to pull a Crysis.
yea and We will be laughing at the burnout
I’m excited that we have a TN panel that is trading blows with IPS for color handling.
Where was this LCD 20 years ago? Lol
A dream would be this panel with an HDR capable full screen, 1000 nits and local dimming.
Ordered. I’m a sucker for new monitor tech.
I'm thinking of getting it but don't want to be wasteful lol
Do you like it 7 months later? I assume yes but I am about to get it
I had the monitor two days and took it back. It’s truly amazing, at least the motion clarity. My gripes were the colors, 1080p, and price.
Say this was $600. Idve kept it. It’s actually a cheat code in terms of what you can do to people in online lobbies. But that’s pretty much all it can do, FPS game. If it were OLED, at least then the colors allow you to use it as a full on gaming monitor. But yea. This is simply an FPS Gaming monitor, and unless you’re the person to have a separate car for driving, then sport driving, you don’t need this monitor.
Great Review! I really don't understand why big companies like Alienware, Acer, MSI etc. Aren't doing monitors like this with E-TN Panels. Like they are targeting competitive players and Instead they decide to go blurry IPS panels that have worse motion clarity. Like if they didn't know that competitive players actually care about input lag and motion, way more than colors.
That's just it though... I don't think they are targeting competitive FPS gamers with their 240Hz IPS and OLED panels. The reality is, competitive gamers are a tiny market. Most gamers do so casually and are more likely to look for a good balance of performance and color accuracy.
540Hz is cool and all, but I'm never going back to a 1080p display.
Well.. It's not for every day use. It has a VERY specific field of use and for that 1080p is actually great.
If I had the space, I'd literally have 2 desk setups (normal 3x1440p, and an Esport setup with smth like this here and nothing else to distract).
Right... as my main I have my 3rd monitor as a task manager and msi afterburner display. As well as a 5k 60hz but my main is a 4k 144hz ips
The rog pg27aqn is amazing at the probably same price. I wont need another upgrade for at least two or three years
@@doremeow2348 I'm waiting for 8k 144hz ips 28"
I hope before 2027. Well see
@@doremeow2348eeeew monitors sub 32in
I would like to have it for Windows. So smooth it would be, just like an crt.
But with much shittier viewing angles.
@darksoulzfreak why would you not be looking straight at your monitor? LoL
I'm finally upgrading from my old Acer XB270HU 2k 144hz IPS monitor, and ordered Asus TUF VG27AQM1A 2k 260hz IPS monitor for $385.
I hope you guys in Australia can get your hand on a unit soon as I am interested to know how does it compete to the MSI/LG/Gigabyte 2k 240hz IPS panels.
Waiting for 360hz OLED next year
Supposedly there is even 480Hz 1080p OLED in the works but im unsure if it's a separate panel or simply a "mode" for lower refresh/higher resolution panel.
*480 Hz 1440p 27" OLED.@@Raivo_K
@@Cuthalu You're right. here's the image from TFT Central. It's a 2025 product: tftcentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/oled_panel_roadmap_aug2023.jpg
I bought one, comes friday! I can get like 450-550 in cs2 and I will use this as a third monitor(20k elo incoming?).
"Way too slow, I need at least 1000 Hz!"
Please do the new Dell Ultrasharp U2724DE. It's a bit different, it's an office monitor, but Dell upped the ante with 120hz refresh, it supports HDMI VRR and it's IPS Black (much better contrast). It doesn't compete with current recomendations but it would be an interesting monitor to review.
Can u please talk about the VRR Flicker Problem on OLED Monitors ? On Blurbusters its strongly discussed.
nooooo let up praise oled for how awesome they are
@@JasonFallel-qw2bi nah let him discuss the flicker problem lol
SAMSUNG ODYSSEY NEO G8 4K 240hz + ASUS ROG SWITCH 1080p 540hz = ULTIMATE ENDGAME 4090 Gaming Station. I am Future Proof'd for years to come
enjoy.
@@dwight2310 thankyou!!! :) I am really blessed
Why show "Tweaked performance" for the srgb mode? Normally you show the default srgb results?
At this high refreshrates I think response times and a very good strobing mode are vastly more important.
Yeah, but the number sells the hardware unfortunately.
love your videos! and wow this monitor is fast and love the 70% Rec 2020 coverage nice seeing that TN also catch up
Getting closer and closer to 1000Hz.
finaly a good quality video talking about this new monitor new sub bro gg
yea for $900, you are CERTAINLY better off getting the AQN IPS 360hz. which has ULMB2. and of course even better off waiting till Jan 6th and Q1 for the Gen 2 QD-oleds. the AW 1440p 360hz is going to blow this out of the water.
I very much doubt that any 360Hz monitor will provide better motion clarity than this does.
@@selohcin he literally says that 240hz OLED is like 540hz LCD. 360hz OLED > 540HZ LCD
Aqn does not support custom res and is dark a.f. with ulmb2
Inching closer to the golden refresh rate of 600. Lcm of 24, 25 & 30. No judder
Excellent review! And yes, TN will have the terrible viewing angles issue. I would also warn about Asus quality control. Some years ago I had one of their 27" TN 144Hz ROG displays. It was great as long as viewing dead on as indicated. Problem was, almost in a perfectly timed manner, couple of months after warranty had expired, some striped horizontal lines appeared on the left of the monitor, and it got a lot worse and unbearable in just a few days. In fact before expiration it had another issue: sometimes the exact left-haft of the screen was a couple of pixels off compared to the exact right half, so you would notice this broken vertical line in the very middle of the monitor. That needed to reboot the entire machine, because just turning on and off the monitor changed nothing about it. Had to replace it. Using an LG 27" 165Hz since then, so far problem free. This is an IPS one, so better colors, and no viewing angle issues. Contrast in fact also slightly better because of the improvements IPS had had over the years.
Acer also have their monitor using this panel from AU Optronics, but without a G-Sync module. Its the Acer Nitro XV242F.
Meanwhile some devs are targeting 30 fps and claiming that’s a good experience
Christ, this is why I want BFI / ULMB to become mainstream. I'm perfectly fine with losing brightness to get that ultra clear motion clarity. I figured OLED would be the best for this, but seems no mfg is making this happen.
Guess I'll just have to still wait a few years for this to come in something like a 3440x1440 size.
Sucks that the XL2566K is brighter then the pg248qp. Ofc with backlightstrobing enabled. What else?
@@daviddave8761 I'm not sure what you are referring to when you say _"What else?"_ This was just a rando comment about justifying/validating my desire for BFI in more devices. Personally I'm holding out until I can get awesome BFI on a 3440x1440 display. I just can't go back to 16:9.
more hz is the way :)
and i hate that i have to pick between resolution and hz, and i have to pick something in between, compromises is not fun.
i want a 4k 540hz and then the game i play decide what can be done, 4k 120hz for slower great looking games, and then 1080p 540hz for when you want motion clarity and low inputlag.
and of course anything in between. and hopefully all games can run 4k 240hz in the near future, and support frame generation to get to 540hz.
i tried frame gen from 130fps to 240fps and input lag was still there.
When 4k 540hz comes out 16k 144hz will be a thing xD which I'd rather have.
@@xpodx 16k is useless lol. I wonder at what point a higher refresh rate makes almost no difference. Going from 360hz to 540hz does make a difference. Going from 4k to 8k... no difference. Hell, going from 1080p to 4k while I saw a big difference...when I actually played the game... I couldn't care less about 4k.
@@lachlanB323
4K is a huge difference and 8K is also another big upgrade though not as big as the jump from 1080p to 4K.
16k however, don’t see it having any merit.
Doesn’t matter though, high fidelity and 60~120 fps in 4K is already hard to get in the latest games and I don’t see anyone playing in 8K for the next 10 years.
Everything above 240hz is a placebo though.
@@lachlanB323 might need to check your eyes then. Even 4k to 5k is a big difference. 8k is way better. 16k would be so sharp.
@Lock2002ful company's will always find new ways to advance and improve, and there are older titles that are easy to run. I'm gonna get 8k 144hz next, but for now using my 4k 144hz and 5k 60
Care to elaborate a bit more on the problems when coupled to a Radeon Card? Great review btw.. as alwaus :) Cheers!
If manufacturers can produce this level of performance at 1440p, I'm going to grab it. As I'm still on Windows 10, AMD VRR being capped at 500 Hz has absolutely no impact on my consideration.
You’d never hit 500hz on 1440 P unless you got a 4090 and your playing cs or Val
@@HarperSmith-e7t I don't upgrade my monitor nearly as often as my other hardware. So a monitor that I unlock the full potential of over time is fine by me.
I thought after watching this review I would be more tempted to buy one but it actually just made me even more excited for the AW2725DF! 27” 1440P 360Hz QD-OLED with a glossy finish baby!
It's glossy? Damn, have to check that out of my list. Well, it's probably better to wait for the 480 Hz OLED anyway.
Great Review! What default preset do you recommend?
It isnt for esports only. You can run doom eternal at 700fps on a 4090. Lots of high fps sp games can be played on this display too.
why tho
@@wherearemytesticlesIf you are someone who has the money and wants high end gaming experience, I suppose the question becomes "why not?".
@@wherearemytesticlesNerd
@@wherearemytesticlesI don't know why people belive that motion clarity and smoother motion is only useful for esports this is absolutely not true, the quality of motion is a joy even for casual games and even for desktop use tim mentioned it. refreshrate and framerates matter for ALL content that same way resolution does.
@@brett20000000009 I guess the better question is, why would you pick this over an OLED? better pixel response times, similiar latency, significantly better image quality, higher resolution... the point is that you are sacrificing a lot just for that faster speed, and the only reason anyone with eyes would do that is for a competitive advantage.
Great work as always
540 Hz ought to be enough for everyone :)
You highlight the monitor missing HDMI 2.1 but only having DisplayPort 1.4 with DSC rather than DisplayPort 2 also seems to be a bit of a misstep. Is that a limitation of the GSync module?
Does ULMB work on Intel Arc GPUs?
540hz I nowhere near enough for life-like motion portrayal. Solving stroboscopic stepping for example would require extremely high refresh rates like 20KHz.
You can find more info about that artifact in the article "The Stroboscopic Effect Of Finite Frame Rate Displays" by Mark Rejhon of Blurbusters.
DP 1.4 was already better than HDMI 2.0. Almost twice the bandwidth.
@@farmeunit Umm.. no. DP 1.4 has 32 Gbps bandwidth (26 Gbps data rate) and HDMI 2 has 48 Gbps. DP 2 has 80 Gbps (77 Gbps data rate).
@@QuentinStephens HDMI 2.0 is 18....
@@farmeunit DP 1.4 still isn't twice the bandwidth - it would have to be 36 Gbps but it's only 32 Gbps, but I'll give you the 'almost'.
Good, thorough review as always :)
Impressive. I love novelty features such as the refresh rates seen here
I don't think high refresh rates are novelty. They're legitimately super useful and enhancers your experience, they're just hard to drive in modern hardware outside of a few ultra optimized games
@@Hybred I'm not dismissing them. I'm sure these will become more common. I think we can agree 540 Hz is an outlier.
External reticles aren't allowed, be it putting a Sharpie dot on the screen or enabling a hardware crosshair like some monitors have. This isn't really enforcable in online play and would be obvious to tournament admins on LAN where things truly count.
people don’t use that shit anyway in competitive lol
@@orangecat1596 Hmm I wonder if there's a comment you might be replying to that explains this
How does img quality and clarity stacks to 165 and 240hz oled?
watch the video and find out?
OLED without any kind of BFI is inferior in terms of motion clarity to a LCD with backlight strobing
@@gamergod9182 no ufo test img comparison to oled in the video.
@@AnimeUniverseDE not sure about that with pixel response time magnitude faster than lcd, that is why it would be good to see side by side
i just found this piece of news "OLED panel with 4K and 240Hz refresh rate from LG Display that also has an option to run 480Hz at 1080p, with so-called DFR (Dynamic Frequency and Resolution) technology."
2024 could be a great year, now if only all games got frame gen also, some game just can not get above 120 if you hit it with a nuke.
I can't believe they've pushed TN technology so far, that's insane.
TN!!!!!!
why would a crosshair be cheating? At most it simply ENABLES a player to have a crosshair style they prefer. It’s simply a matter of preference and generally has only the slightest “advantage” when hipfiring.
yes its definitely cheating
@@HumbleDude46995 A dot on your screen makes you have aimbot how exactly?
@@heatnup its AIM ASSIST . Its used to help you with your aim
@@HumbleDude46995 it doesn’t assist your aim it is necessary for aiming 😂 Imagine trying to kill a deer with a sniper rifle that has no sights.
I would never use tn again! I dont care how many hz you get.
I've only used IPS. How bad is TN and VA in comparison? In your honest opinion
@@evaone4286 Tn is awful to look at. Va can be great if you get high end Samsung panel and has better dark blacks. Cheap va is ok but you do get black smear and ghosting but this doesn't bother some people if it's minor
@@evaone4286 I’ve used a TN Panel when the only 1440p 140hz was TN. It is fine. People are overblowing the cons. How many times do you look at your monitor from under your keyboard? I still prefer IPS but TN is more than fine.
Honestly I think 240hz is enough and you can use OLED monitor with 240hz
I would, I don't care about anything else besides the response time being as fast as possible. And this one is far from other TN's in terms of color reproduction.
Q24G2 REVIEW PLEASE, We need more 24-25 inch 1440p-4k 144hz+ monitors.
Pro gamers never use monitor crosshairs as it diverts the concentration. It's a dead feature out of the box. May be few enthusiasts may use.
10:16
The math here is reversed, it is wrong to say PG248QP is 31% better than PG27AQN, it is 23% better, it would be correct to say the PG27AQN is 31% worse.
Which stat should be taken as the denominator should switch between higher is better and lower is better.
Also same for the comparison against the XL2566K.
look forward to selling my house to buy a 6090ti so i might someday see 540 fps
For high refresh rates you should be more concerned with your CPU.
And even today, something like OW2 can run 600fps off of 5600x at 1080p.
If you live with your parents, you should be able to work a minimum wage job and save your money for a month and have enough money to get a high-end GPU.
I'd like to see you run OW2 at any settings at 1 % lows above 540 or even 480 in every map. Avg fps isn't useful metric - you need the fps the most in situations where it's the lowest (active fights). And 5600x definitely can't do that, even 7800x3d can't pull it off.@@philistine3260
@@kiavaxxaskew right cause every McDonalds worker has a 4090 in their system, do you even read that crap you post before hitting reply?
I would suggest avoiding the term "Fake HDR" as it's problematic since there isn't a clear cutoff line where something is or isn't "Fake HDR". Simply stating the contrast and gamut it can achieve, along with testing how accurate it's EOTF tracking is, should do the trick. 1000 nit HDR monitor with bad accuracy and terrible local dimming implementation using only 32 zones such as Philips 436M6VBPAB could be considered "True HDR", yet having accurate 400 nit HDR with no local dimming is probably preferable.
true hdr is a term, saying fake hdr is the absence of the “true hdr” certificate
@@Davinmk I'm cool with certifications, as they are at least clearly defined, even though they are often gamed and exploited by manufacturers. But "true hdr" is not a formal certificate, in this case, as I understand, it refers to Monitor Unboxed considering the monitor to be a bad choice overall regarding HDR experience. And while that kind of judgement is perfectly fine, and a totally legit thing to be presented in a review, my point is that due to the nature of HDR, how good HDR implementation is, is simply not a binary thing, but a gradient, so it would be much better represented by a percentage or a number of stars or something, otherwise it will always be misleading in borderline cases, and this monitor is arguably one such borderline case.
What else can they do when the existing certifications are so useless? They really do need to be very clear that a "HDR400" monitor most likely won't be able to properly display a HDR signal, otherwise a lot of people just see the rating and think they're actually getting something of value. I don't think HUB's definition of "fake" is all that subjective either, what they want is basically ok tracking + decent peak brightness + enough backlight zones to maintain contrast in an average HDR scene. The measurement data is then used to give a more thorough look at HDR performance overall.
@@ozzyp97 I work professionally with HDR. What I'm trying to point to is that any judgement of what counts as "properly" displaying HDR signal will always be arbitrary. There isn't a magical cut off point where HDR becomes proper, or true, or whatever else. Instead, any additional nit over the standard SDR range of ~200 is a benefit over SDR, just as every additional % of gamut coverage beyond that of sRGB gamut is also a benefit over SDR. As long as the screen is accurate in HDR, any amount of HDR is a benefit over SDR. Even if a display had strictly SDR capabilities of brightness and color gamut, it would still benefit from increased bit depth. And perfectly displaying HDR up to 10 000 nits and 100% of BT2020 might become possible decades in the future, but until then, nothing will be able to "properly" display HDR in an objective sense.
Most specs sound very good on paper and I will give props to Asus for getting such high refresh rate and 1400 contrast on a TN panel.
However, it's sadly still a 1080p display. It's 2023... I just, can't, sorry.
the market for this monitor are cs2, valorant, and/or overwatch players. 1080p is enough visual sharpness for those games.
@@dive_whale Yes, this would also be my guess. And 1080p is also considerably easier to run than 1440p or 4K resolutions ofc. I understand where the niche/market for this product is, I just don't care for 1080p screens anymore myself. And I also don't play any of those games.
@@TechieSunset well than this monitor is not for u. move on ffs!
@@dwight2310 this was exactly what I did bro... I have a UW QD-OLED monitor.
high percentge gamers are playing valorant and cs2. This monitor is the best. 1440p and 4k are for old slow reflex gamers.
why not a true hdr monitor with tn lcd?
If desktop use is so much smoother and responsive, why is 60hz still the default monitor? Seems to me its time to retire 60hz even for productivity and casual use...
Yea even Dell now has office monitors with 120Hz and IPS Black that should get them closer to VA contrast. 60Hz or below could have some uses for E-Ink, longer battery life or similar situations but largely 120Hz is so cheap there is no point to saving literal cents by going with 60Hz.
i noticed the hyperx armada 25 is listed in these charts, but i don't recall you reviewing that specific model - just the armada 27. did i miss the review? my local micro center has the armada 25 for $130us & it seems like a pretty great deal. armada 27 for $180 is also a good value imo.
900$ for a TN panel. 😂
I was like, you can only get up to $550 bc of refresh rate. For $300 more you can get curved ultrawide oled 1440p 165hz monitor that destroys this mess.
Comparing bananas to Ferraris. Those monitors are for completely different uses. Since this is specifically for the highest performance in fast paced games, that 165 Hz oled would be terrible in comparison.@@fiece4767
pretty amazing display! it's nuts that TN is still a thing even, but it looks like it's paid off to keep producing them!
You're probably not gonna get a low enough response time and input lag for 540hz if they decided to go with ips. I'm still kinda lost on why this isn't an oled tho😭
540 Hz sounds really cool unitl you remember that there's only a dozen or so games that can render more than 500 fps... A bunch of single player games have engine limitations well below even 300 fps, so buying this monitor for single player games is pointless.
And on the other hand, unless you're a top tier pro in Counter-Strike, Valorant, Rainbow Six: Siege or Overwatch - you're just wasting your money.
The majority of your time using the monitor will typically be at 540fps. Because that's what the desktop will run at.
And I also want to push back on the "top tier pro" argument. It's unfortunate that high refresh rate is so much marketed as an esport feature when in reality it gives a much more significant improvement to comfort and immersion than it does to gaming performance.
@@hastesoldat Are you seriously justifying spending that much money for simply browsing the web??? Knowing full well that this monitor being a TN panel is horrible for regular desktop usage and also that you're NEVER going to move your mouse so fast to even register 500 Hz in desktop?
@@oldschoolmk7056 I'm not giving purchase advices here. I'm just telling you that you will see clear benefits on the desktop.
And your assumption about mouse speed is incorrect. Even a slow 1000 pixels/second cursor movement would defeat 540Hz already as you would see a trail of stroboscopic steps lagging behind your cursor, each separated by about 2 pixels-wide gaps.
We are still at the very beginning of the journey towards life-like motion portrayal.
Thanks for the video.
Whatever the speed: 1080p in 2023... can we not. Let this useless resolution diiiiiie already.
I have no organs left.
Has a fan? No bueno. Not even worth it.
Thank Nvidia and their old G-Sync module that adds +200 to the price and comes with a fan and higher noise/power. Also old ports. Selling 900+ monitor in 2023 with DP 1.4 and HDMI 2.0. Those standards were introduced in 2018 and 2016 respectively btw.
My biggest gripe with this monitor is not supporting ULMB 2 below 360hz when NVIDIA said ULMB 2 works down to 120hz (although they demonstrated it working at 60hz during presentations) so it seems like an arbitrary restriction.
Lower hz/fps = worse motion clarity which = backlight strobing being more useful. For competitive games that struggle hitting a consistent 360fps (COD) or singleplayer games where 60-120fps is more reasonable I'd love to get strobed image clarity. At $900 not having something as basic as that as a deal breaker, it makes the benefits of this monitor niche as you only get the benefits this monitor offers in a few titles whereas if they just freed up more refresh rate ranges it can be enjoyed by many different kind of gamers in many more games, thus might actually be worth the premium price tag
asus will release a fw update to mitigate this issue.
Hi Tim, I was surprised to hear that you didn't experience diminishing returns when going from 144/240Hz to 540Hz, and was curious as to whether you know why that is? Unless I'm mistaken, the Blur Busters Law of Motion Blur is useful for going up to a certain motion speed, and going beyond that (for a fixed refresh rate) would mean that human-induced motion blur becomes more of a factor as opposed to monitor-induced motion blur. Do you think that there is any perception blending taking place for high speed content displayed on a high refresh rate monitor? If that weren't the case, then it would mean that there are still benefits for going beyond 360Hz/540Hz.
I still think 2566k is a better monitor. minute 12:45 - 14:45 explains this very well
The perception has shifted up a tick. 540 is the new 360, 360 the new 240, 240 the new 120, 120 the new 60, 60 the new 30, and 30...we don't talk about that lol
you are right!!!!
I suspect the upcoming Zowie XL2586X 540hz DYAC 2 panel will compete with this Asus. Possibly offering DYAC 2 at 100hz and above. Curious to see if Zowie will match the impressive contrast ratio of the Asus though.
although Zowie is king when it comes to esports and panel performance, this TN panel seems to have better colors
wouldnt OLED make more sense up at these refresh rates? is there not a 1080p OLED?
I have never heard of a 24.5 inch 1080P OLED that's what's making me hesitate for competitive games on an OLED. I don't think I could play fps games on a 1440p compared to a 1080p 24.5 inch display.
@walterliou8729 as a previous competitor gamer, MLG events in the 2000s. Going from 24.5 to 27, is barely noticeable and I was worried too. You are talking about a 1.5 inch increase diagonally each way. I originally got the 27" 1080p 240hz TN Asus. Which I now have as my side monitor, bc I upgraded to the 27" 240hz 1440p version when it came out. For sweaty kids, I would still reccomend the AQN 360hz 1440p version. I returned the OLED AQDM, it had so many problems. But I'm definitely upgrading to the 32" 4k 240hz in Q1. And maybe get the 27" 1440p 360hz too. Not sure yet
As OLEDS are still similarly priced it would like to have more comparison to them, as i still look out for the clarity i had when CRT was a thing
Crt is still a thing rocking one on my PC as a 3rd monitor and got one in the gmaing room
Can you review HP Omen 27qs? It seems to have better specs then msi g274qpx which you recommended 2 months ago.
no!!
Why wasn’t the Alienware AW2524H included in the comparisons? It’s the obvious competitor in the market today being the only other monitor capable of 500Hz.
bc its a garbage monitor. there are better performing 360hz monitor on the market. (the ones mub is comparing)
I disagree. I have both this 540hz and 500hz Alienware at the moment. The Alienware is a much clearer image and colors are more pleasant to look at. Asus really messed up the anti glare coating on this one unless I got a bad one. The coating on the Asus just gives a blurry image and effectively seems to cut my resolution in half. The Asus is the faster monitor though
@@zekethep1umber ok fair enough. i can only go by what yt optimum tech said. He did review both and described the alienware as lifeless and dull regarding colors although it has an ips panel. Also the Alienware has no ULMB2. I cant imagine the alienware having a clearer image vs the asus with ulmb2 on. my asus will arrive shortly so we will see..
Hi Tim. Do you plan to review asus pg38uq?
a ips 180hz-240hz is good enough, plus you get ips color, this ones is tn doesn't offer better color accuracy, good response for gaming
My problem would be- how long will the overclock last? I have a rog pg248Q and the overclock only lasted a year before it simply stopped overclocking. Also when it did overclock it introduced so much ghosting it wasn't worth it.
oh wow, I did not know issues like that exist
Intresting the way monitors are elvoving, from the looks of it 8k might never be a standard ever (or at least not in the forseeable future), especially since ray tracing is so heavy and since we already gonna have 4k 240hz OLED displays, so it just seems that the future of monitors will be mostly 4k with even higher refresh rates.
540Hz is amazing but I would prefer +300Hz 1440p VA any day over that 540Hz.
Right now with samsung g7 240Hz 1440p va.
Waiting for 4k 540hz nanoled
I can not click on the od mode on the monitor and I don’t know why pls help