I think it's fine, until long term fans let go of Pokemon and the new, casualized fans just grow out of it unlike the ones who grew up with the franchise and the passion it had before.
@@terrysyvertson9205 that's taking it way too far lol. For one, the sales and profits show it is making a lot of people happy, it's massively selfish to say something shouldn't exist just because you don't like it. It's more reasonable to say it could be more successful if it fixed a few things
Yeah he makes a lot of valid points but he can’t just say the franchise is dead just because he doesn’t like it anymore. If he were to say that the franchise doesn’t deserve all of it’s success then I agree more.
@@larniieplayz6285 Depends on what parts give it life I suppose. If your only definition is a monetary success then its very much alive. But another way of looking like it is this: Lets say we take a person who goes on adventures. He was quirky and interesting and beloved by many. Now kill him and raise him as a zombie. Yeah, he moves and might even be able to run but he is not alive either. He is dead, even though he lives. You can give him the biggest salary in the world, but he is not his old self. I hope this sort of explains the perspective people kinda have when saying "its dead even though its successful". Another example would be teen titans fans talking about teen titans go. Like yeah its the same rough setting and characters but the old teen titans is dead, this is just the think wearing its skin.
Nintendo and The Pokemon company are more of Viacom/Paramount and Warner Brothers, not so much Disney. When I mean Warner brothers, I mean when they have a new idea, and it succeeds and makes soo much profit, that they start to care less about what the customer wants. That's what Warner Brothers does most of the time (Although I can be wrong, despite Pokemon movies being distributed by Warner Brothers themselves so, yeah, I don't like Warner Brothers or Viacom at all). And Viacom, Nintendo just takes down anything they don't think is considered fair use, similar to what Viacom does when they take down Spongebob content posted by users without permission. So I do think, upon rethinking, that it's more of a mashup between Warner Brothers and Paramount. And remember
@@ExtremeReviewer101 Disney is the king of recycling successful ideas into increasingly lazy products. It was Warner back in the 2000s. But ever since Bob Iger took over Disney is the one doing that
Did you just complain that Black and White have too much dialogue, admit to not reading the dialogue, then complain that Pokemon games don't have a story When Gen 5 and Sun/Moon have actual proper stories
@@HedeccaTamer Storywise I think it enhances it by adding Zinnia's role and the new mauville side story. + The cut scenes But why do you think it butchers it?
@@user-mx4is4fx3c compared to what it took away, especially compared to Emerald which is the proper story and not to mention that they really aren't remakes but recreations. It doesn't help that Zinnia is essentially insane.
Black and White and their sequels had actual story that made real statements about moral quandaries. The only other pokemon games that managed that was ruby and sapphire (emerald did so to a lesser extent, but actually missed the landing with how it handled the middle ground). But yeah, most pokemon games lacked a meaningful narrative. Oh, Gen two had a narrative that handled the successors of Gen one very nicely, giovanni's son as a rival to a gym leaders child made for meaningful character arcs. But the character arcs in gens seven and eight? You are the douchey rival and the story has more impact if you are the villainous rival, as there isn't much more story than the lore for legendary pokemon. At least Alola had short story arcs for the trial captains, but it lacked most impact outside of team skull and the dark-type island challenge you truly were the rival-douche to team skull for much of your island challenge. I don't think gen 8 gave any reason to care about any gym leader, except maybe Bede..? But no, it expressly gave reasons to not care about Bede.
@@sh4d0wfl4re I honestly was disappointed by the story of Gen 5. We have a team trying to liberate Pokemon, and then the story absolutely refuses point-blank to ever seriously address the issue of Pokemon abuse. Even season one of the anime was willing to show abusive trainers! In Gen 5, the whole moral dilemma turns into nothing. Training Pokemon is always great and all trainers love their Pokemon, no problems there. The Pokemon world absolutely doesn't need a Royal Society for the Protection of Pokemon, I guess. I did like the characters and their stories, but they really dropped the ball with Team Plasma.
Most of this games aren't rip-offs at all. Pokémon was the first of its genre to be popular in the West, but it wasn't the first lhe. Also, Digimon World Dawn/Disk has already had a sequel called Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth focused in a more mature audience
@@nekonomicon2983 Bandai Namco has told in some interviews that they tried to market their games for children but failed. They discovered that most of the people that was supporting the franchise were adults, so they decided to make the games for a mature audience. That why Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth became a game entirely developed for mature audience.
"Pokemon is competitive and shit" *Shows a straight 5 turns of a Tornadus missing hurricane against a wobbefut spamming mirror coat* Of course, what a strategy...
Back in the old games I always had a hard time deciding what my final team was gonna be because there were so many cool designs. Nowadays I can't even form a single 6 Pokemon Team because I can't find 6 designs that I actually like.
Same. I hated most of the Alola pokemon to the point I just use wonder and globe trade after the school to start building my team of random pokemon from other regions.
All subjective, i felt the same way in Gen 8, because i like so many of the designs but in games like HG/SS or Gen 5 I couldnt give 2 shits about 3/4 of my team
@@timurtheking I used to dislike gen 5 pokemon too (but that's because I had only played b&w1&2 only once.) Grew to love quite a few of them. Liked most of Kalos region pokemon, same as Hoenn.. Its the sinnoh pokemon for me that I find hard to like other than the starters and riolu/lucario
When it came out, people complained that Gen 5 was too different and was the 'start of the downfall'. Now enough time has come out to look at Gen 5 favourably.
“The designs for gen 8 are f***ing horrible!” Corviknight, Toxtricity, Orbeetle, Frosmoth, Dragapult, Centiskorch, Grapploct: *Am I a joke to you?* In all seriousness there are some stinkers, cough Fossils cough...
I’d also suggest Fire Emblem, while it’s not turn based and there’s no online you can still find things like progression into new classes, certain characters doing well against others and most Fire Emblems have big enough casts for a replay
@@Jdudec367 I didnt agree with all the other points of his videos too. And dont assume im trying to defend modern pokemon im not I dont like pokemon anymore too since pokemon sun I quit and wont bother to get sword/shield. That pokemon went to shit is for way different reasons and not the formulaic ones he picked. His complaints are the same boomer complaints the fans always had when a new gen was being released. And trust me any pokemon "fan" who says gen 1 is "hard" or whatever he said in the video I wont bother to rewatch it isnt to be trusted. Gen 1 is incredibly easy, obviously steming from its simplicity, bad balance and bad level curves.
@@poke-champ4256 I'm not assuming anything, you come across like your assuming I'm assuming though. I've played gen 1 (yellow in particular) and it does get challenging. Especially after playing gen 6 I don't see how Gen 1 is one of the easiest. I would say Pokémon went to shit after it moved to home console. Also People can have their opinion on whether Gen 1 is hard or not, if you can't trust people for having different opinions then maybe your the one who people shouldn't trust
I used to spent hour and hours just to beat the mazes caves and gym but now all I have to do is just go straight and battle and even the battles are too easy the game is getting boaring and dull they say its a kids game but we all know they say it just to justify the lack of work
Just ad a dificulty setting and I think we will all like it. Course gamefreak won't go to the trouble to add something as simple as that when Pokefans will continue to buy annything with pokemon strapped on it.
Lmao the map designs and character personality are easily the worst of the series. 3H has a much better map design and mechanics than awakafates, and the characters actually develep
Yokai watch is quite good. I initially hated it but it eventually grew on me and i started to really like the series. The battle system can be very confusing but it's very satisfying once you get the hang of it. The game is more difficult than pokemon, by a sizable amount. You can easily get your butt handed to you if your not careful. Alot of the yokai designs rival pokemon's . I definitely recommend giving yokai watch a try. I only got to play yokai watch 1 and 2 but my experience with those titles was great! It was like back in the days playing red and blue then playing gold and sliver.
I enjoyed yoKai watch too. Played 1 and 2 as well. It’s a really great series but after the initial hype nobodies talking about it unless you look for it.
Same. I feel like the brand flopped because of the amount of effort they put in their games. From what I've seen, America gives more attention to the brands that they hate than those they like. Level 5, put *SO* much content and hidden details in their games and always found something to improve on, especially for Yokai Watch 3, but people disregarded it because "It's bootleg Pokemon" or "It's not pokemon. On the other hand, while Yokai Watch is a good game, it might have failed to capture the western audience due to its lack of community. In school, the only people that I could really talk to games about were Pokemon fans. Most of the fans of Yokai Watch I knew were either online or just lying to seem cooler.
Don't even get me started with Yokai Watch 4, Yokai Watch really thought they could do a 180 on their entire predominantly children fanbase trying to make the game more dark mature. In my opinion, the most prominent feature of Yokai Watch was it's cute, quirky, and mysterious style and Yokai Watch 4 wasn't any of that. It brought a more mature grotesque style that very little of it's fanbase domestically or internationally liked. Sadly, I don't think we will ever see Yokai Watch because of how badly Yokai Watch 4 flopped in Japan.
I feel like Yokai Watch would have been more successful if they found a way to make it's entire story a series and repeatedly nostalgic while providing new elements. (Maybe Nate joins an international boarding school or something.) It would have helped Yokai Watch grow as a competitor to the huge brand that is Pokemon.
I will be blunt here, while the mic is nice and all, you seem to have a general lack of idea what you're talking about. First off, it's best to do the research. You still weren't correct about Genius Sonority. Genius Sonority was still developing games, with their recent title being Pokemon Cafe Mix. You complained about monsters fusion in Dragon Quest makes you feel less attached to the monsters. Yet you didn't seem to know that Shin Megami Tenshi and Persona have that system as well, which were incredibly successful games. Pokemon also has Fusion, just that it's been restricted to a certain Legendary Pokemon. You complained about Pokemon is infamous for being easily one-shotted and sweepers are thriving (though more so in Singles) and then you proceed to complain about Tanks being difficult to be KO? Isn't that contradictory? Also, Palossand is a terrible example to make because it's nothing more of a gimmick in Doubles where even novice players could see it coming and easily prevent it. I don't understand why you have to specifically cover Temtem when you haven't played the game. There are other monster-collecting RPGs for PC out there, why not something else like Nexomon or Monster's Crown instead? As for my opinion of Temtem, I initially liked it but I ended up disliking it over the way it's executing and being too grindy for its worth.
I am just gonna say this: Shin Megami Tensei is my go to Moster Collecting RPG, cool designs, amazing gameplay, awesome stories with actual good dialog, relatively challenging to kickass hard. Could not recomend more.
Also the stories are braindead. You're introduced to characters and they get sent away and every now and then you run into the and they say something vaguely philosophical. "Is being bad actually bad?"
I'm gonna simp for a bit, but if people are looking for a challenging monster collecting game they should get into SMT. Not entirely the same, but they have some similarities. Especially if you have a 3ds. SMT IV has a shit ton of demons it almost feels like pokemon on steroids.
Are there any SMT games on the gba? (I've been playing the Monster Rancher Advance 2 and it's been fun so far, would like another monster game with that 16bit graphics style)
Tem tem has some pretty interesting and cool monster designs, but most of the ones i have seen are not that great, i got the same fanart fake pokemon vibes, i think its the art style...but god...the human character models are really ugly ...at least pokemon sword and shield have great gym leader designs (edit: from "good" to "great" leader designs becase gotta give credit on maybe the only well done thing in the game)
Yeah, I hate the human designs, but I tried not to bring it up to avoid getting political. I think I've had enough of that for a while after my Last of Us 2 review lol.
Temtem's monster designs fail at being cool in the later stages. They are all right in the cutesy side, but when they evolve they don't get any cooler. Just less cute and bigger, I guess. Nidrasil and Nessla are my favorite designs, but still. If you had them in pokemon they would be sleeker, stronger looking big sneks. Like Gyarados or Rayquaza, idk.
If you’re looking for a good monster collecting game to play: Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth & Hackers Memory are great games. They’re on PS4 but a complete edition was released on Switch about a year ago that contains both games. Enjoyable story, good OST, great designs and some challenging boss fights - even on normal difficulty. The evolution lines were confusing at first since theres so many options but you get the hang of it pretty quickly. If you don’t like what your digimon evolve into, you can always de-evolve and try again. Lots of options.
I got tired of the songs and battle system quite quickly. It became kinda monotonous, and the graphics just aren't good. Invisible walls, hallways, areas that you should be able to go to but can't, there is no traveling whatsoever, you just teleport, and Eden is just the blandest representation of the concept. Those games are B minus games no doubt and it really drags down the experience. I can't say anything about the story because I never completed it, but honestly it wasn't that interesting or interesting enough to overlook the various flaws.
I agree, I've put over 200 hours into the cyber sleuth/hackers memory game. While I love pokemon more, digimon is truly an underrated game and franchise.
I am not that much in to monster collectors but I really enjoyed those 2 games. My reaction to the first game: This is a good game. Not on the same level as Persona 5 ore Final Fantasy X but very enjoyable. My reaction to "a Hackers Memory": Holy shit this is awsome. Meybe its becuse I got a better hand of the System ore meybe becuse nostalgia hit me (I love the anime), I am not sure why but I really enjoyed a Hackers Memory. It has a griping story with lovable characters (Erika and Wormon are awsome. I love them), a satisfying progresion system, and challanging but fun fights. I remember that story fight with Omnimon. I though it was going to be easy but then it became a by the skin of my teeth victory. Since I like Omnimon as a character it was actully kinda satisfying seing it almost completly obliterating my team of 11 bad ass Mega Digimon. At the end only 2 where left standing one with only 1 HP left. It was an awsome fight. Music is good too. I like how the Royal knight theme works both as a hero and as a villain theme. I also enjoyed the presentation. I really enjoyed that cyberspace world more then I expectet and the animations of the Digimon I liked a lot to. My only real complain is there is no music in the real world. So yeah I had a blast with a Hackers Memory.
Also did you just complain about Pokemon keeping the same system but adding gimmicks every Gen but then call Yugioh the better card game when it does the exact same thing?
Yu-Gi-Oh!'s gimmicks aren't as much gimmicks. It needs to evolve in some way and introduces new monster types and styles. Some of them work and some don't (Links were a mistake). The problem with Pokémon is that it doesn't expand them beyond the game that concept is in. Fusions in Yu-Gi-Oh! Have been there since the Duel Monsters and it's still evolving. Mega Evolutions stopped getting used afyer ORAS and Sun/Moon added them as a post game thing because they wanted to do shotry Z Moves. Gen 8 conpletely ditches both. Yi-Gi-Oh! Hasn't ditched any of the major Monster types ibtroduced each new Gen (Fusions, Synchros, XYZs, and Pendulums are all still relevant in one way or another in this Link era. Links were still a mistake tho and I feel that Konami doesn't know when to take Pendulums rn but that's besides the point)
@@Xenoblade_Natsu This is very true. That’s the thing that bothers me about gen 7 and gen 8. They made mega evolution a thing in gen 6 and just decided to throw it out the window despite it being probably favored more over dynamaxing and z-moves.
@@TheKeerKat I still own all 3 and never beat the wii game because the final boss against nyx is such bs... you fight through 4 rooms full of krawl then you have to beat nyx who does this kingdom hearts shadow ball bullshit and if you do actually beat him you are on a timer to get out through all 4 rooms and you have to fight all the krawl on a timer to get out... I almost threw my wiimote and nunchuck into the tv because of that damn unforgiving fight...
Played since the beginning. Generation 5 is my favorite. The graphics, areas, story, & designs. Gen 6 had so much potential then they pushed Sun & Moon & it was downhill from there. I think they don’t need a new generation or gimmicks. They need to put multiple regions together, like put sinnoh & unova to use the underground tunnel and spread out the gyms through 2 regions. Stick with mega evolutions, make a T rated game, make a good story, let your trainer be an adult have a home to decorate. & have so many Pokémon in the games. Let the Pokémon follow you around. Instead of choosing 3 from a starter, change the types you can pick. Also have the professor not be so needy, make the series more mature and reuse the old assests to make new adventures.
Pokemon has always been E rated, and I doubt they will ever change that, especially since the game is aimed towards children, which is why they wouldn’t make the feature to be an adult. As for the starter types, they probably stick to those 3 since they are each weak to one and strong against another. I do agree with the fact that they should stick to mega evolution or at least add on to it.
And since we now know that Gen 6 was to get a sequel, the potential just seems nonexistent. GameFreak was going in a fine direction with X and Y in my opinion, but it all dropped to the ground with Gen 7.
I think Pokemon could definitely come back if they do this: Take 1-2 year breaks between releasing games so that each game gets a proper development Let the studio that made the stadium and coliseum games do the animations Make an immersive story that people care about Make the rival a jerk who’s always either trying to one up you or is always one uping you so you feel the need to be better Make the game harder Don’t hold our hand after 20 minutes or give us an “experienced player” option Make all environments 3D Let us use our imagination again Don’t give us easy ways to level up our pokemon, it should feel rewarding to level up after a battle Either bring back Mega evolution or dont give us a gimmick And finally, give us a rewarding Post game so the game isn’t over after the elite four I know it’s a lot but Pokemon needs this
Funny how NOW people want a competitor when its convenient for them. After decades of the pokemon community bashing and killing any monster raising game slapping the label "pokemon ripoff" onto it. We had plenty of great competitors throughout the years and the fandom buried them. Now we dont see many new monster raising games and the ones that do come out aren't localized. Because a massive community showed game developers that theres no room for anything besides pokemon. Digimon, monster rancher, dragon quest monsters, yokai watch, medabots, and the list goes on
Honestly I'd like to see all these come back, especially yokai watch. I'm a big fan of the series, and the battle system in 1-3 isn't really that great, but the one for 4 (not localized) looks really interesting. At least it isn't just 1. Dynamax 2. Win Honestly, it has the potential. People just need to give it a chance, which they are ready now to do. I just hope that whichever one takes over pokemon has devs behind it that care about it, yokai watch or not.
There’s also the people who label something as a Pokémon killer and play competing games out of spite & not actually because they believe it’s good. Looking at TemTem for that one. And yea, a lot of the community who is like that and are now freaking out over SWSH really does not deserve any pity. They helped in creating this environment. It wasn’t just GameFreak
This video took way longer to edit than I wanted it to, but here's my opinion on the current state of Pokemon and all of the major competitors over the years. I'll probably decide tomorrow if the Spongebob video is worth finishing. If not, expect a Ghost of Tsushima review next week if I can finish it fast enough.
31:34 "It looked too kiddy." The main character canonically dies horribly. Several characters do. Also the seven circles of hell are a relevant location in this game. The story is way darker than you would think. You really can't judge Yo-Kai Watch by appearance. I also love how people that have never actually played the game think "auto attacks=no strategy". Nitro Rad went into depth on this. The skill revolves a ton around teambuilding and accounting for things like redirection, tank support, debuff and buff management, healers, attitude adjustment, boss pattern recognition, etc. It's easily a way deeper and more challenging game than Pokemon dedpite the auto attack system, honestly and its competitive format is way more balanced to boot. In fact, one of my friends whom is an avid Pokemon fan and shiny hunter admitted to me he dropped the game because it was too difficult and complex for him. The guy even plays Persona and Shin Megami Tensei games are not known for being easy. Plus, Yo-Kai Watch games are WAY bigger and more open than Pokemon games and the story is well written. Even if you don't care about the story, Yo-Kai Watch makes it so its story cutscenes and dialogue are skippable so you can get back to the game. That's certainly more than Pokemon ever did. Please do more research or actually play a game if you're going to talk about it.
@@FirstNameLastName-wg8ld Indeed. Speaking of Snartle, ya gotta love how this person is using footage of Snartle in his video despite the fact Snartle is famous for completely crushing novice players with bad teams. Snartle is perfectly beatable early game but it still hard enough to destroy any notion that these games are easy.
@@DrCoeloCephalo In my opinion snartle is one of the best characters in the game. He starts out easy and leads you to think that all you have to do is come back later in the game, so you come back at around watch rank A-ish and you try to fight him again. I think we all know what will happen at that point. It's just this one simple fight (along with some others) that makes Yo-kai Watch stand out from the other games I have played. I'm doing a playthrough of the game right now and a decent amount of the bosses get close to destroying my team. For example, Duwheel can be fought at watch rank A, but if you do you'll probably end up in the same boat as me with my team dying left and right. Of course I still won, but it was the hardest boss I encountered at the time. I like that Yo-kai Watch feels less hand-holdy than other games, since they are fine with just dropping you into a fight you might not be able to beat, and even when you can beat them it still feels like a challenge with how much you have to keep on top of.
@@FirstNameLastName-wg8ld Well said. People falsely assume this game has no depth just because thr game tells you the basics of Tribe Unity and Roles but the game doesn't baby the player into learning how to make use of them. Yo-Kai Watch expects the player to learn that at their own pace as they get better and progress at the game. Pokemon is just such a shallow game compared to any other monster collector but because it's so simple to understand, people that play Pokemon and nothing else are somehow convinced it's deeper than it actually is.
@@DrCoeloCephalo Now I don't hate pokemon but for the time that I dropped Yo-Kai Watch, I really couldn't find a game that I was interested in. Almost every title I found was really shallow, bad, or just not something I was interested in. Only about a week or so ago, I found out that the Nintendo Switch isn't region-locked and then I remembered that the fourth game was out in Japan so I ordered the game and for the time that I was waiting for it I went back and played the first game, and I never realized how much the battle system has to offer. In just the first 5 hours I got hooked and already put 27 hours into it on a new save file, and I can't remember a single time I was bored. Just the feeling of having to build this team and then get used to each character makes me love how the battle system was designed. For example, playing with a Shogunyan is different from playing with a Komane. One has a skill that gives critical attack more power, one has a skill that makes him more powerful when teamed up with his brother. One used physical attacks, another uses elemental. All of these different characters come together to allow you to build almost any team you can think of, which is why I loved playing it before, and why I love playing it now.
There is just something very significant being said about the fact that you can casually mention Agumon evolving into SkullGreymon in ONE episode 20 years ago in our childhoods and me going "Yup.", despite both of us not being Digimon fans and not thinking about Digimon at all for years at a time. I mean, what is it about such episodes that leave such a striking impression that you remember some details but most importantly the FEELING they gave? It just encapsulates truly great writing. Maybe not "truly great writing" in the sense of, say, Shakespeare; maybe not necessarily craft or whatever, but definitely a different kind of "truly great".
@@roboticminer8843 Yes, you would think so, you really would, but then 100 of these Pokémon is Dead videos all saying "I love Pokémon, but Pokémon sucks now and actually has sucked since Gen 6" clog up our feed ever since the SwooSh controversies started in force with the announcement of the limited roster.
@@autobotstarscream765 if you didn’t like sw/sh for valid reasons then I respect your opinion, but if you think sw/sh is bad because of the limited roster or the removal of megas then your just an entitled “fan” who doesn’t care about Pokémon.
@@roboticminer8843 I'm saying the roster seems to have been the last straw for a lot of angry people who would rather complain about that than more fundamental problems that they either ignored until then or didn't actually care about until they saw a hate bandwagon to jump on in the wake of #BBND.
While you make good arguments, the way you present them is very very poor. In an argument a good thing to do unless it cant be avoided or you can work around it is not to establish yourself as the enemy. You failed to do that by painting your opposition as a strawman idiot, as well as letting your own bias's take over, when your audience goes on the defensive, you've lost.
I think you're holding onto the pokemon formula too hard. No one needs evolution or type charts. At the core these are just RPGs and they have their own methods for achieving a certain style of gameplay. I think you may be too focused on games being exactly like pokemon because you want to replace what the games no longer have instead of accepting these new worlds have their own rules and want to be unique instead of just more of the same shit as you argued is what made you give up on pokemon
The basoc Pokémon formula is monsters you acauore somehow that can (but not a necessity) evolve (look at Fossil Fighters 1) and have some sort of type system, and turn-based battles. That's the extent of the formula. A really good game can be made with it. Like Fossil Fighters. Without types and catching monsters it's not a Pokémon style RPG. That's just how it is
Ezio there is Well..there's a lot of unused potential to talk about Also a lot of problems I'd say in terms of things that piss me off swsh are actually some of the largest content packed games out there
I disagree that a game where you have to fuse monsters wouldn't be popular with kids, take at look at Persona and SMT, those games have become super popular recently and while they're admittedly aimed at older audiences, I have no doubt in my mind that kids would think fusing two or more monsters together to make a more powerful monster is cool as shit
I know this is just a me thing but what turns me of about SMT is how they seem so super dark and serious all the time. I like a good balance of dark and light elements. That is why Persona is more my cup of tea. I love Persona 5 and both Persona Q games. Now its an anime /Manga series but the best example of what I mean is Made in Abyss. Its pretty awsome in balancing darker and lighter elements.
I think nearly all of the Digimon games from the Playstation Vita and PS4. Kicks Pokemon ass every way. Except for balanced netplay Nino Kuni 1 might be the best Pokemon game out right now
Shin Megami Tensei is the OG monster collecting series and probably one if not the best one in the genre. But I don't think it could ever have the same appeal as Pokemon due to how dark and how hard it is.
Digimon card game is getting reinvigorated and japan actually like digimon mobile games so hopefully digimon comes back full force pokemon is so lame now
I agree with MOST of the things in this video, but I'd just like to say that the four move rpg battle style needs to stay, it just needs better battle animations. The only change that the move system needs is more moves. Like maybe five or six moves.
For me the game that comes closest to older Pokemon games is Digimon World 1. Great adventure (exploration is a big part of this game), great storyline and quests, it's hard to get ultra digimon at first but the more progress you make in the game the easier it gets. Another thing I really enjoy about Digimon World 1 is that besides the basic storyline and quests you have to train your digimon and need to go battle technique hunting with each Digimon being able to only use certain battle techniques of the types they belong to. It gives you a really long playtime and it is super hard to finish the game on 100% (incl. having trained every available digimon, which are 40 + all need to have certain different stats, happiness and discipline levels to be obtained and having all the battle techniques, which is the hard part since there are some techs that can only be learned from certain boss monster fights). It also has good replay value since every adventure will be different depending on the starter digimon you choose and it's first digivolution. If you're looking for a game to play during lockdown times I can only highly recommend you Digimon World 1.
There's a new indie game that was announced a while ago called Kindred Fates. And from the little we've seen it look really promising, it's more of a Action RPG take on the genre.
Well how would they talk about it if they didn't? People would just say that they "Didn't play the game, so they can't talk about it". Then if they bought it, they would say what you said. There really is no way to not be criticized for talking about it.
The 3ds models were used in the 3D pokedex app on the 3ds too. Also, the concept of Pokemon Duel was impressive, but that shut down. Should have been a full game on either 3ds or switch... Edit: Walrein has been one of my favorite designs, ever since seeing it thrown out by Glacia to battle, in Pokemon Sapphire.
"I let go" says the man making a 50 min long video complaining about the state of pokemon... well, I don't know, last time I played pokemon was sapphire I think, so I have absolutely no authority to speak on the issue of pokemon and if it's good anymore, but if you make a 50 min video about it? I'd say you care about it.
I would love essentially an updated Colosseum but with the quality of life updates Gale of Darkness had. A good potential competitor could be a revived Sailor Moon as that was a really good show
Sailor Moon is great and had a revival that resulted in Sailor Moon Crystal, and they did have one JRPG that was pretty cool, but it's not monster collection so it isn't a competitor to Pokémon, it exists in a separate sphere...
Well, you are by know definitely one of my daily upload checking channels. Love your attitude, views, voice, and passion. Definitely gonna be one of my fav reviewers/ranters now and in the future.
For me Pokemon lost charm when going into 3d graphics but gained charm with mega evolution and z moves. And then it lost all its charm when it decided to become a lazy cash grab which cant even make a half decent fucking special move. Although I loved the gym battles and I think they should bring that with a harder game, better animations, and a good story with no cash grab dlc. That would be a great pokemon game. But instead we get the big brain of blocking mechanics that should be released at the being instead of being part of a dlc only
You should check out the Shin Megami Tensei series. The newer games (SMT 3, SMT 4, SMT Digital Devil Saga, the mobile game) have the Press Turn System with is an evolution on the standard turn based combat system. You have to exploit the weakness of the enemies to get extra turns and you have you be aware that you team of demons is not weak against the attacks of the enemies because they can kill you in a couple turns
Persona is the adult version of Pokemon, go play any of them and you'll feel amazed that Final Fantasy and Pokemon had a baby you overlooked for so long
Like I responded to another guy, I really don't think Persona scratches the monster-catching itch. The Personas are too disposable and disconnected from the rest of the story (the social part, anyway).
@@SyntheticMan Persona is a spin-off of an actual monster collection franchise, Megami Tensei, and I just picked up SMT IV as the MegaTen game recommended to Pokémon fans.
I was really disappointed with Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Ultra Moon in my opinion despite having less content Pokemon Moon was actually better. I don't really know why everytime Nintendo remake a game with more features they have to make the main characters from the original less important or less interesting. I liked Lily when she was the main character and her mother when she was fucking psycho. Why they changed that for some hoping world mechanic I can barely follow I don't understand. The surfing mini game was fun but even that technically interrupted the flow of the original story. Pokemon Sword meanwhile is too gimmicky and nothing really happens, also the gigantism is kind of a dumb gimmick I feel like the should have just done more mega-evolution and regional variants. Also I hate how they run the series like a toy franchise and keep getting rid of features the are find. Like patting the Pokemon was great last gen and letting Pokemon physically follow you back in Pokemon yellow or ride on your head in go is brilliant. I honestly think the best mini games and features have always been things like unique battle rotations and things that let you interact with your Pokemon or Pokemon in the overworld more. You know things that feed into the premise of being a Pokemon trainer. The second are the travel features things like unique cities or interesting npcs or stuff that makes your character interact well with the world such as the scent bed gimmick in Moon or answering N in Black and White. The third thing that's really important that I think Nintendo have been neglecting for awhile is difficulty. I'm not saying make it dark souls levels of difficult but it's a real turn off for nostalgic players that most fights are so easy.
I get that. I barely remember X&Y and breezed through it. At least with Gen 7 & 8 I do remember some difficult battles, like with Mother Beast Lusamine, Allister, Leon, & Raihan. Although the two mistakes GameFreak made with SWSH in regards to difficulty where a) making the EXP share not turn off & b) the biggest one being you could go to Raid Dens so early on in the game, join & beat a few raids to get EXP candy to ridiculously over level your party. The AI has also been a problem.
I think claiming it's "dead" is a bit much, stagnating would be a better way to phrase it. Pokemon will probably keep going for a long while, but it probably won't change any time soon.
Yeah I agree. Stagnation is a much better term And honestly why should pokemon even try improving if the audience will give them just as much of a profit? This is the main problem. It's too big to fail.
@@nekonomicon2983 Pretty much, meanwhile it's taken over a decade for Digimon to get back into some form of relevance with Cyber Sleuth and such. It's frustrating that Pokemon actually used to try and be somewhat creative, but any new idea they come up with is quickly discarded in the next-gen. Z-Moves, Mega evolution, and I guarantee Dynamax will be thrown out just like the previous "gimmicks".
To be fair, all the pokemon added into the dlc are free for people who don't have the dlc. You just need to trade with someone who does have that pokemon and your game does have to be updated
Pokémon has been on a steady decline since Gen 6 onwards, and some might argue since Gen 4 onwards. The games have always had sub-par stories, but that wasn't the game's main draw. That's why they've been getting worse and worse over the years, because the stories are the same, but they're just more in your face about it. I was a massive fan since the 1st game, and I love coming back to Gen 2 or 3 now and then and enjoy many romhacks, but playing Gen 8 was an absolute slog to get thru because of how restrictive and handholding they were.
For anyone on switch or ps4 who needs a good quality replacement for Sword and Shield, play Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory, I got it on sale and there was a clear passion put into the development for that game, which is something that sadly can't be said about the recent Pokemon games. I've literally become a Digimon fan because of how poor Pokemon has been doing lately and oh my God I've been missing out.
Dropped out from Diamond, only regret missed out the swan song Black/White 1-2 before Gamefreak stopped caring. Difficulty aside, 1v1's lack depth to titles like FF14 and Digimon. Doubles or nothing next pokemon titles or the Gamefreak deserves to let this series shrivel
Man, as you said yourself, monster designs are completely subjective. Your tastes seem to be very different from mine as I like Temtem and gen 8 designs. Temtem is definitely the best one in your list and it's already very successful.
Save for Digimon, which has become great in its own right. Same for Yu-Gi-Oh, as their card game is MUCH more successful than Pokemon's tcg. Yokai stepped up to the plate for a moment, but it wasn't able to keep up.
@@mawile2468 Digimon kinda is dying and only being kept alive by pandering to Adventures after the disasters that were Frontier, Fusions and Appimon. Not only that but they resorted to otaku pandering through more "female humanoid digimon" as well as issues of recolors and retcons that made some digimon more OP than what they were. Yu-Gi-Oh's issue is its game is reaching feature creeping to where now all matches must end on speed and less strategy. Also, Konami's bad marketing isn't helping either and only survives as its sole cash cow. Pokemon's block format is just hated due to that (but also prevents broken combos that Yugioh has had a plague) Yokai didn't have the worldwide recognition it needed, due to the nature of using Japanese cryptos to push the market.
Sun and Moon was the last stop for me. The 4-hour tutorial, the constant interrupting cutscenes, the endless dialogue, the unimaginative routes, the lack of exploration; I can’t imagine playing that game again. First and last Pokémon game I had to beat through the power of sheer buyer’s remorse. Sad to see Sword and Shield continue the trend.
Also how many of you ever heard of fossil fighter Cause that was wayyy more fun then any of the modern Pokémon games Go look for a game and then play it through completely and tell me how it was
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Fun Fact: Pikachu is more famous than Pokemon
Facts
Pokémon, Featuring Pikachu From The Super Smash Bros. Series
And that is fucking sad
Unfortunately
Extremely Sad actually
Pokémon is doing just fine, and that's the problem. They won't fix its problems until it stops being so financially successful
I think it's fine, until long term fans let go of Pokemon and the new, casualized fans just grow out of it unlike the ones who grew up with the franchise and the passion it had before.
@@mtamer2943 which might take forever considering how much these games sold
they should have ended pokemon with gen 5
@@terrysyvertson9205 that's taking it way too far lol. For one, the sales and profits show it is making a lot of people happy, it's massively selfish to say something shouldn't exist just because you don't like it.
It's more reasonable to say it could be more successful if it fixed a few things
Pokemon won't cease to exist just like Mickey Mouse won't. They will just keep changing and adapting.
The sad part is that pokemon isn't suffering financially and they have no reason to change
Yeah he makes a lot of valid points but he can’t just say the franchise is dead just because he doesn’t like it anymore. If he were to say that the franchise doesn’t deserve all of it’s success then I agree more.
@@pikapower98 A franchise can be "dead" or dying but still succeeding. Just look at EA and 2K milking the sports series that were once good.
@@compatriot852 it can?
In that way gamefreak is turning into ea
@@larniieplayz6285 Depends on what parts give it life I suppose. If your only definition is a monetary success then its very much alive. But another way of looking like it is this: Lets say we take a person who goes on adventures. He was quirky and interesting and beloved by many. Now kill him and raise him as a zombie. Yeah, he moves and might even be able to run but he is not alive either. He is dead, even though he lives. You can give him the biggest salary in the world, but he is not his old self. I hope this sort of explains the perspective people kinda have when saying "its dead even though its successful". Another example would be teen titans fans talking about teen titans go. Like yeah its the same rough setting and characters but the old teen titans is dead, this is just the think wearing its skin.
Aged like fine wine after Pal world's release.
You said Nintendo in gaming is the equivalent to Disney in media. Soo true.
eh...not completely
Nintendo and The Pokemon company are more of Viacom/Paramount and Warner Brothers, not so much Disney. When I mean Warner brothers, I mean when they have a new idea, and it succeeds and makes soo much profit, that they start to care less about what the customer wants. That's what Warner Brothers does most of the time (Although I can be wrong, despite Pokemon movies being distributed by Warner Brothers themselves so, yeah, I don't like Warner Brothers or Viacom at all). And Viacom, Nintendo just takes down anything they don't think is considered fair use, similar to what Viacom does when they take down Spongebob content posted by users without permission.
So I do think, upon rethinking, that it's more of a mashup between Warner Brothers and Paramount. And remember
Nintendo is more mature content now than sony
To be fair Nintendo has a TON of quality content on the Switch, and even in general, can't say the same for Disney these days.
@@ExtremeReviewer101 Disney is the king of recycling successful ideas into increasingly lazy products. It was Warner back in the 2000s.
But ever since Bob Iger took over Disney is the one doing that
Did you just complain that Black and White have too much dialogue, admit to not reading the dialogue, then complain that Pokemon games don't have a story
When Gen 5 and Sun/Moon have actual proper stories
ORAS also has a really good story
@@user-mx4is4fx3c Ruby/Sapphire* ORAS butchers RS spectacularly
@@HedeccaTamer Storywise I think it enhances it by adding Zinnia's role and the new mauville side story. + The cut scenes
But why do you think it butchers it?
Sun and moon is horrible
@@user-mx4is4fx3c compared to what it took away, especially compared to Emerald which is the proper story and not to mention that they really aren't remakes but recreations. It doesn't help that Zinnia is essentially insane.
Gen 5 had the perfect amount of story dude. It was nice seeing the gym leaders being involved in more than just being gym leaders.
Aight did this guy just admit to not reading the really well written dialogue in Pokémon Black and White??? Bro those characters have real actual ARCS
Black and White and their sequels had actual story that made real statements about moral quandaries. The only other pokemon games that managed that was ruby and sapphire (emerald did so to a lesser extent, but actually missed the landing with how it handled the middle ground). But yeah, most pokemon games lacked a meaningful narrative.
Oh, Gen two had a narrative that handled the successors of Gen one very nicely, giovanni's son as a rival to a gym leaders child made for meaningful character arcs.
But the character arcs in gens seven and eight? You are the douchey rival and the story has more impact if you are the villainous rival, as there isn't much more story than the lore for legendary pokemon. At least Alola had short story arcs for the trial captains, but it lacked most impact outside of team skull and the dark-type island challenge you truly were the rival-douche to team skull for much of your island challenge. I don't think gen 8 gave any reason to care about any gym leader, except maybe Bede..? But no, it expressly gave reasons to not care about Bede.
I feel like gen 5 was the last gen game freak actually tried ..after that they stopped giving a fuck
I’ve always loved Pokémon, but gen 5 gave me so much hope for the future of Pokémon. Sadly, three gens later, that hope has taken a beating
Yeah! Gen 5 story was my favorite. Even the side characters got their own arc like Bianca. That music when she confronted her dad was classic.
@@sh4d0wfl4re I honestly was disappointed by the story of Gen 5. We have a team trying to liberate Pokemon, and then the story absolutely refuses point-blank to ever seriously address the issue of Pokemon abuse. Even season one of the anime was willing to show abusive trainers! In Gen 5, the whole moral dilemma turns into nothing. Training Pokemon is always great and all trainers love their Pokemon, no problems there. The Pokemon world absolutely doesn't need a Royal Society for the Protection of Pokemon, I guess. I did like the characters and their stories, but they really dropped the ball with Team Plasma.
Most of this games aren't rip-offs at all. Pokémon was the first of its genre to be popular in the West, but it wasn't the first lhe. Also, Digimon World Dawn/Disk has already had a sequel called Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth focused in a more mature audience
Yeah pokemon is for Children while games like Digimon is much more mature
@@nekonomicon2983 Bandai Namco has told in some interviews that they tried to market their games for children but failed. They discovered that most of the people that was supporting the franchise were adults, so they decided to make the games for a mature audience. That why Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth became a game entirely developed for mature audience.
@@raphaelmartins6529 I loved cyberslueth, but it’s post games killed it for me, it’s like they didn’t have time to program one in.
@@raphaelmartins6529 Imagine that's why they decided to try a game with survival elements
@@roboticminer8843 I don't get the appeal of post game the main story is long enough and makes it worth playing it
"Pokemon is competitive and shit"
*Shows a straight 5 turns of a Tornadus missing hurricane against a wobbefut spamming mirror coat*
Of course, what a strategy...
Back in the old games I always had a hard time deciding what my final team was gonna be because there were so many cool designs. Nowadays I can't even form a single 6 Pokemon Team because I can't find 6 designs that I actually like.
Sun and moon had some decent looking ones.... But it was obviously their last spurt of creativity.
Same. I hated most of the Alola pokemon to the point I just use wonder and globe trade after the school to start building my team of random pokemon from other regions.
All subjective, i felt the same way in Gen 8, because i like so many of the designs but in games like HG/SS or Gen 5 I couldnt give 2 shits about 3/4 of my team
Nah. It's all subjective. I actually like some of the designs of the gen 8 mons same as the other gens.
@@timurtheking I used to dislike gen 5 pokemon too (but that's because I had only played b&w1&2 only once.)
Grew to love quite a few of them.
Liked most of Kalos region pokemon, same as Hoenn.. Its the sinnoh pokemon for me that I find hard to like other than the starters and riolu/lucario
Give Shin megami tensei series a shot. It's kind of different and has a fusion system but they are good games.
Yes, another person of culture.
SMT is great, pretty much Pokemon except Satan lmao
@@mettadox that and Its actually difficult well mainline anyway persona is pretty easy with the exception of 1-2
@@isgamer-8732 base P4 is actually pretty hard but everyone plays Golden so that sucks
You deserve a lot of likes then that my dude
Gen 5 had just a lot of effort put into it, just listening to the soundtrack shows you how much things changed
When it came out, people complained that Gen 5 was too different and was the 'start of the downfall'.
Now enough time has come out to look at Gen 5 favourably.
@@wowwar2 Gen 3-Gen 5 is the golden age Gen 6 I believe is when mega evolution came in and that’s when the downfall started
Yeah. It's got better. The theme of area zero is both majestic and otherworldly.
“The designs for gen 8 are f***ing horrible!”
Corviknight, Toxtricity, Orbeetle, Frosmoth, Dragapult, Centiskorch, Grapploct: *Am I a joke to you?*
In all seriousness there are some stinkers, cough Fossils cough...
Lmao to those who didn’t know this, the fossils are actually combinations fossils of 4 prehistoric/extinct Pokémon. So that’s why they look so crazy.
I LOVE the fossils
But in the same way I love a shitpost, it's bad but I enjoy it because it's bad
@@TheMNHShow the reason why they look like they do does not change the fact they look like they belong in loony toons
I love the fossils. Especially their shinies, the grayscale looks amazing
All trash
For those that are searching pokémon alternatives, play some smt games and a new monster hunter stories will come out
The old MHS was okay but I really disliked the dumb rock/paper/scissors combat system.
I hope that doesn’t make a return in the new one.
MHS did z moves way better than gamefreak and dlc was incredible for MHS so much better than pokemon
Shame that the monhun community has a lot of gate keepers
I’d also suggest Fire Emblem, while it’s not turn based and there’s no online you can still find things like progression into new classes, certain characters doing well against others and most Fire Emblems have big enough casts for a replay
Also digimon cyber sleuth hacker's memory and ni no kuni shikkoku no madoushu and wrath of the white witch are a great alternatives
Synthetic Man: Gen 1 is the only game with some challenge.
*Sudden Cynthia's theme.*
Heck, Gen 4 is still difficult as a Pokémon game, and that's what makes me pick it up these days.
When he said that, I knew his opinions dont matter. Gen 1 is by far one of the easiest gens.
@@poke-champ4256 what makes you say that?
@@Jdudec367 I didnt agree with all the other points of his videos too. And dont assume im trying to defend modern pokemon im not I dont like pokemon anymore too since pokemon sun I quit and wont bother to get sword/shield. That pokemon went to shit is for way different reasons and not the formulaic ones he picked. His complaints are the same boomer complaints the fans always had when a new gen was being released. And trust me any pokemon "fan" who says gen 1 is "hard" or whatever he said in the video I wont bother to rewatch it isnt to be trusted. Gen 1 is incredibly easy, obviously steming from its simplicity, bad balance and bad level curves.
@@poke-champ4256 I'm not assuming anything, you come across like your assuming I'm assuming though. I've played gen 1 (yellow in particular) and it does get challenging. Especially after playing gen 6 I don't see how Gen 1 is one of the easiest. I would say Pokémon went to shit after it moved to home console. Also People can have their opinion on whether Gen 1 is hard or not, if you can't trust people for having different opinions then maybe your the one who people shouldn't trust
I think games getting easier is a thing, they want it to accessible to everyone but it ruins the fun of the series
I used to spent hour and hours just to beat the mazes caves and gym
but now all I have to do is just go straight and battle
and even the battles are too easy
the game is getting boaring and dull
they say its a kids game
but we all know they say it just to justify the lack of work
Just ad a dificulty setting and I think we will all like it. Course gamefreak won't go to the trouble to add something as simple as that when Pokefans will continue to buy annything with pokemon strapped on it.
Wait, how's that a problem for more people to enjoy the game?
"What? -Your- Pokemon is evolving! Congratulations! Pokemon evolved into Fire Emblem."
I’ve heard three houses is really good
FE 3 houses's much better than SwSh tbh
@@kishiberohan7955 it's ok. Certainly better than Pokemon Sword and Shield.
@@kishiberohan7955 Meh, Fates and Awakening are much better.
Lmao the map designs and character personality are easily the worst of the series. 3H has a much better map design and mechanics than awakafates, and the characters actually develep
I feel like you dont understand what constitutes a story and you just disregard everything.
He said he that the dialogue is stupid and useless and that there’s no story, even tho he admits to not reading the dialogue.
I still turn on the 3DS to chill with my homies from all the way back in FireRed. It hurts so much, man.
Yokai watch is quite good. I initially hated it but it eventually grew on me and i started to really like the series. The battle system can be very confusing but it's very satisfying once you get the hang of it. The game is more difficult than pokemon, by a sizable amount. You can easily get your butt handed to you if your not careful. Alot of the yokai designs rival pokemon's . I definitely recommend giving yokai watch a try. I only got to play yokai watch 1 and 2 but my experience with those titles was great! It was like back in the days playing red and blue then playing gold and sliver.
I enjoyed yoKai watch too. Played 1 and 2 as well. It’s a really great series but after the initial hype nobodies talking about it unless you look for it.
Same. I feel like the brand flopped because of the amount of effort they put in their games. From what I've seen, America gives more attention to the brands that they hate than those they like. Level 5, put *SO* much content and hidden details in their games and always found something to improve on, especially for Yokai Watch 3, but people disregarded it because "It's bootleg Pokemon" or "It's not pokemon. On the other hand, while Yokai Watch is a good game, it might have failed to capture the western audience due to its lack of community. In school, the only people that I could really talk to games about were Pokemon fans. Most of the fans of Yokai Watch I knew were either online or just lying to seem cooler.
Don't even get me started with Yokai Watch 4, Yokai Watch really thought they could do a 180 on their entire predominantly children fanbase trying to make the game more dark mature. In my opinion, the most prominent feature of Yokai Watch was it's cute, quirky, and mysterious style and Yokai Watch 4 wasn't any of that. It brought a more mature grotesque style that very little of it's fanbase domestically or internationally liked. Sadly, I don't think we will ever see Yokai Watch because of how badly Yokai Watch 4 flopped in Japan.
I feel like Yokai Watch would have been more successful if they found a way to make it's entire story a series and repeatedly nostalgic while providing new elements. (Maybe Nate joins an international boarding school or something.) It would have helped Yokai Watch grow as a competitor to the huge brand that is Pokemon.
THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL PEOPLE THANK YOU I 100 PERCENT AGREE
I will be blunt here, while the mic is nice and all, you seem to have a general lack of idea what you're talking about.
First off, it's best to do the research. You still weren't correct about Genius Sonority. Genius Sonority was still developing games, with their recent title being Pokemon Cafe Mix.
You complained about monsters fusion in Dragon Quest makes you feel less attached to the monsters. Yet you didn't seem to know that Shin Megami Tenshi and Persona have that system as well, which were incredibly successful games. Pokemon also has Fusion, just that it's been restricted to a certain Legendary Pokemon.
You complained about Pokemon is infamous for being easily one-shotted and sweepers are thriving (though more so in Singles) and then you proceed to complain about Tanks being difficult to be KO? Isn't that contradictory? Also, Palossand is a terrible example to make because it's nothing more of a gimmick in Doubles where even novice players could see it coming and easily prevent it.
I don't understand why you have to specifically cover Temtem when you haven't played the game. There are other monster-collecting RPGs for PC out there, why not something else like Nexomon or Monster's Crown instead? As for my opinion of Temtem, I initially liked it but I ended up disliking it over the way it's executing and being too grindy for its worth.
Yeah after 5 minutes I was just wondering what his point was, and his language doesn't help.
Plus gen 1 is not even close to be the hardest one, probably he feelt that way because he play it when he was a kid.
Gen 4 was probably one of the hardest in my opinion
@@freddythomas1923 no way
@@frozenpancakes well it was my first pokemon game
2:33 "Ice and fire? That doesn't even make sense"
Shoto Todoroki: *am i a joke to you?*
Yes apparently 😞
Well that’s anime
Gill from Street Fighter would like to have a word with you.
He meant as in a Pokémon made out of ice and fire, as it would melt.
We already have Pokémon made out of Fire and Bug, Fire and Water, Electric and Rock, so it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
I am just gonna say this: Shin Megami Tensei is my go to Moster Collecting RPG, cool designs, amazing gameplay, awesome stories with actual good dialog, relatively challenging to kickass hard. Could not recomend more.
Badass demons vs wild animals (pokemon) yeah I’m gonna go with SMT
the game that scratched my pokemon itch was an MMO, Atlantica Online. Sadly it's dead, or close to dead now.
It's really REALLY not that hard. Just because a turn based rpg actually expects you to understand it's mechanics doesn't make it hard.
Also the stories are braindead. You're introduced to characters and they get sent away and every now and then you run into the and they say something vaguely philosophical. "Is being bad actually bad?"
I feel called out when he said that you only have to grind when you’re bad
I'm gonna simp for a bit, but if people are looking for a challenging monster collecting game they should get into SMT.
Not entirely the same, but they have some similarities. Especially if you have a 3ds. SMT IV has a shit ton of demons it almost feels like pokemon on steroids.
SMT?
@@DarkVileScream Shin Megami Tensei
And the rest of the SMT and Persona games as well.
@@Azier18 yes
Are there any SMT games on the gba?
(I've been playing the Monster Rancher Advance 2 and it's been fun so far, would like another monster game with that 16bit graphics style)
Tem tem has some pretty interesting and cool monster designs, but most of the ones i have seen are not that great, i got the same fanart fake pokemon vibes, i think its the art style...but god...the human character models are really ugly
...at least pokemon sword and shield have great gym leader designs
(edit: from "good" to "great" leader designs becase gotta give credit on maybe the only well done thing in the game)
Yeah, I hate the human designs, but I tried not to bring it up to avoid getting political. I think I've had enough of that for a while after my Last of Us 2 review lol.
I agree that it is definitely the art style they chose. It just doesn't click for me, unfortunately.
cant sleep on the music for swsh tho thats kinda fire
I don’t like TemTem’s color palette. It’s too pastel for me. I don’t see why they couldn’t use a normal color scheme.
Temtem's monster designs fail at being cool in the later stages. They are all right in the cutesy side, but when they evolve they don't get any cooler. Just less cute and bigger, I guess.
Nidrasil and Nessla are my favorite designs, but still. If you had them in pokemon they would be sleeker, stronger looking big sneks. Like Gyarados or Rayquaza, idk.
If you’re looking for a good monster collecting game to play: Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth & Hackers Memory are great games. They’re on PS4 but a complete edition was released on Switch about a year ago that contains both games. Enjoyable story, good OST, great designs and some challenging boss fights - even on normal difficulty. The evolution lines were confusing at first since theres so many options but you get the hang of it pretty quickly. If you don’t like what your digimon evolve into, you can always de-evolve and try again. Lots of options.
Does the switch version let you have Beelzemon Blast Mode? I recall him being locked behind free launch dlc.
I got tired of the songs and battle system quite quickly. It became kinda monotonous, and the graphics just aren't good. Invisible walls, hallways, areas that you should be able to go to but can't, there is no traveling whatsoever, you just teleport, and Eden is just the blandest representation of the concept. Those games are B minus games no doubt and it really drags down the experience. I can't say anything about the story because I never completed it, but honestly it wasn't that interesting or interesting enough to overlook the various flaws.
I agree, I've put over 200 hours into the cyber sleuth/hackers memory game. While I love pokemon more, digimon is truly an underrated game and franchise.
To bad it botched the post game.
I am not that much in to monster collectors but I really enjoyed those 2 games.
My reaction to the first game: This is a good game. Not on the same level as Persona 5 ore Final Fantasy X but very enjoyable.
My reaction to "a Hackers Memory": Holy shit this is awsome.
Meybe its becuse I got a better hand of the System ore meybe becuse nostalgia hit me (I love the anime), I am not sure why but I really enjoyed a Hackers Memory. It has a griping story with lovable characters (Erika and Wormon are awsome. I love them), a satisfying progresion system, and challanging but fun fights. I remember that story fight with Omnimon. I though it was going to be easy but then it became a by the skin of my teeth victory. Since I like Omnimon as a character it was actully kinda satisfying seing it almost completly obliterating my team of 11 bad ass Mega Digimon. At the end only 2 where left standing one with only 1 HP left.
It was an awsome fight. Music is good too. I like how the Royal knight theme works both as a hero and as a villain theme.
I also enjoyed the presentation. I really enjoyed that cyberspace world more then I expectet and the animations of the Digimon I liked a lot to. My only real complain is there is no music in the real world.
So yeah I had a blast with a Hackers Memory.
Also did you just complain about Pokemon keeping the same system but adding gimmicks every Gen but then call Yugioh the better card game when it does the exact same thing?
Maybe Yu-Gi-Oh! does it better?
Yu-Gi-Oh!'s gimmicks aren't as much gimmicks. It needs to evolve in some way and introduces new monster types and styles. Some of them work and some don't (Links were a mistake). The problem with Pokémon is that it doesn't expand them beyond the game that concept is in. Fusions in Yu-Gi-Oh! Have been there since the Duel Monsters and it's still evolving. Mega Evolutions stopped getting used afyer ORAS and Sun/Moon added them as a post game thing because they wanted to do shotry Z Moves. Gen 8 conpletely ditches both. Yi-Gi-Oh! Hasn't ditched any of the major Monster types ibtroduced each new Gen (Fusions, Synchros, XYZs, and Pendulums are all still relevant in one way or another in this Link era. Links were still a mistake tho and I feel that Konami doesn't know when to take Pendulums rn but that's besides the point)
@@Xenoblade_Natsu This is very true. That’s the thing that bothers me about gen 7 and gen 8. They made mega evolution a thing in gen 6 and just decided to throw it out the window despite it being probably favored more over dynamaxing and z-moves.
@@autobotstarscream765 yugioh gimmicks make extreme power creep, heck even yugioh zexal era card is considered weak now, let alone gx or original
@@richard35791 Except the banned cards...
what about disney's pokemon clone: spectrobes. there was 3 games (2 on the ds, 1 on the wii) the series ended due to a lawsuit to disney interactive.
Oh yeah, I forgot Spectrobes existed..
Man, Spectrobes was fun as fuck. Shame that the series got canned.
Don’t forget about fossil fighters.
I love those games. Still own the 2nd and 3rd game to this day. A solid series.
@@TheKeerKat I still own all 3 and never beat the wii game because the final boss against nyx is such bs... you fight through 4 rooms full of krawl then you have to beat nyx who does this kingdom hearts shadow ball bullshit and if you do actually beat him you are on a timer to get out through all 4 rooms and you have to fight all the krawl on a timer to get out... I almost threw my wiimote and nunchuck into the tv because of that damn unforgiving fight...
Played since the beginning. Generation 5 is my favorite. The graphics, areas, story, & designs. Gen 6 had so much potential then they pushed Sun & Moon & it was downhill from there. I think they don’t need a new generation or gimmicks. They need to put multiple regions together, like put sinnoh & unova to use the underground tunnel and spread out the gyms through 2 regions. Stick with mega evolutions, make a T rated game, make a good story, let your trainer be an adult have a home to decorate. & have so many Pokémon in the games. Let the Pokémon follow you around. Instead of choosing 3 from a starter, change the types you can pick. Also have the professor not be so needy, make the series more mature and reuse the old assests to make new adventures.
For someone who says they don’t need new gimmicks you sure are suggesting new gimmicks
Pokemon has always been E rated, and I doubt they will ever change that, especially since the game is aimed towards children, which is why they wouldn’t make the feature to be an adult. As for the starter types, they probably stick to those 3 since they are each weak to one and strong against another. I do agree with the fact that they should stick to mega evolution or at least add on to it.
And since we now know that Gen 6 was to get a sequel, the potential just seems nonexistent. GameFreak was going in a fine direction with X and Y in my opinion, but it all dropped to the ground with Gen 7.
...Okay I will say
I kinda hate starters.
I think Pokemon could definitely come back if they do this:
Take 1-2 year breaks between releasing games so that each game gets a proper development
Let the studio that made the stadium and coliseum games do the animations
Make an immersive story that people care about
Make the rival a jerk who’s always either trying to one up you or is always one uping you so you feel the need to be better
Make the game harder
Don’t hold our hand after 20 minutes or give us an “experienced player” option
Make all environments 3D
Let us use our imagination again
Don’t give us easy ways to level up our pokemon, it should feel rewarding to level up after a battle
Either bring back Mega evolution or dont give us a gimmick
And finally, give us a rewarding Post game so the game isn’t over after the elite four
I know it’s a lot but Pokemon needs this
Keep the exp candies, but lock them in postgame.
Some of these I feel are more nostalgia talking than anything else
@@pn2294 especially the jerk rival bit. Blue and Silver were antagonists not rivals, and there isn't anything about them to really care about.
@@pn2294 still better
@@andresmarrero8666 they are rivals, the game literally calls them and they were better than the best friend that is also your rival lol
"Ice and fire doesn't even make sense"
Gill from Street Fighter: "Am I a joke to you?"
Funny how NOW people want a competitor when its convenient for them. After decades of the pokemon community bashing and killing any monster raising game slapping the label "pokemon ripoff" onto it. We had plenty of great competitors throughout the years and the fandom buried them. Now we dont see many new monster raising games and the ones that do come out aren't localized. Because a massive community showed game developers that theres no room for anything besides pokemon.
Digimon, monster rancher, dragon quest monsters, yokai watch, medabots, and the list goes on
Honestly I'd like to see all these come back, especially yokai watch. I'm a big fan of the series, and the battle system in 1-3 isn't really that great, but the one for 4 (not localized) looks really interesting. At least it isn't just
1. Dynamax
2. Win
Honestly, it has the potential. People just need to give it a chance, which they are ready now to do. I just hope that whichever one takes over pokemon has devs behind it that care about it, yokai watch or not.
There’s also the people who label something as a Pokémon killer and play competing games out of spite & not actually because they believe it’s good. Looking at TemTem for that one. And yea, a lot of the community who is like that and are now freaking out over SWSH really does not deserve any pity. They helped in creating this environment. It wasn’t just GameFreak
You missed one really important game and that is Fossil Fighters, check it out man.
What about temTem?
I love how you explain that a 3v3 battle system would make it better, and pokemon ditched that option in gen 7.
This video took way longer to edit than I wanted it to, but here's my opinion on the current state of Pokemon and all of the major competitors over the years. I'll probably decide tomorrow if the Spongebob video is worth finishing. If not, expect a Ghost of Tsushima review next week if I can finish it fast enough.
31:34
"It looked too kiddy."
The main character canonically dies horribly. Several characters do. Also the seven circles of hell are a relevant location in this game. The story is way darker than you would think. You really can't judge Yo-Kai Watch by appearance.
I also love how people that have never actually played the game think "auto attacks=no strategy". Nitro Rad went into depth on this. The skill revolves a ton around teambuilding and accounting for things like redirection, tank support, debuff and buff management, healers, attitude adjustment, boss pattern recognition, etc. It's easily a way deeper and more challenging game than Pokemon dedpite the auto attack system, honestly and its competitive format is way more balanced to boot. In fact, one of my friends whom is an avid Pokemon fan and shiny hunter admitted to me he dropped the game because it was too difficult and complex for him. The guy even plays Persona and Shin Megami Tensei games are not known for being easy.
Plus, Yo-Kai Watch games are WAY bigger and more open than Pokemon games and the story is well written. Even if you don't care about the story, Yo-Kai Watch makes it so its story cutscenes and dialogue are skippable so you can get back to the game. That's certainly more than Pokemon ever did.
Please do more research or actually play a game if you're going to talk about it.
Holy shit. You just put my entire brain into one comment. Thank you so much. Also nice pfp (snartle is the best).
@@FirstNameLastName-wg8ld Indeed. Speaking of Snartle, ya gotta love how this person is using footage of Snartle in his video despite the fact Snartle is famous for completely crushing novice players with bad teams.
Snartle is perfectly beatable early game but it still hard enough to destroy any notion that these games are easy.
@@DrCoeloCephalo In my opinion snartle is one of the best characters in the game. He starts out easy and leads you to think that all you have to do is come back later in the game, so you come back at around watch rank A-ish and you try to fight him again. I think we all know what will happen at that point.
It's just this one simple fight (along with some others) that makes Yo-kai Watch stand out from the other games I have played. I'm doing a playthrough of the game right now and a decent amount of the bosses get close to destroying my team.
For example, Duwheel can be fought at watch rank A, but if you do you'll probably end up in the same boat as me with my team dying left and right. Of course I still won, but it was the hardest boss I encountered at the time. I like that Yo-kai Watch feels less hand-holdy than other games, since they are fine with just dropping you into a fight you might not be able to beat, and even when you can beat them it still feels like a challenge with how much you have to keep on top of.
@@FirstNameLastName-wg8ld Well said. People falsely assume this game has no depth just because thr game tells you the basics of Tribe Unity and Roles but the game doesn't baby the player into learning how to make use of them. Yo-Kai Watch expects the player to learn that at their own pace as they get better and progress at the game. Pokemon is just such a shallow game compared to any other monster collector but because it's so simple to understand, people that play Pokemon and nothing else are somehow convinced it's deeper than it actually is.
@@DrCoeloCephalo Now I don't hate pokemon but for the time that I dropped Yo-Kai Watch, I really couldn't find a game that I was interested in. Almost every title I found was really shallow, bad, or just not something I was interested in. Only about a week or so ago, I found out that the Nintendo Switch isn't region-locked and then I remembered that the fourth game was out in Japan so I ordered the game and for the time that I was waiting for it I went back and played the first game, and I never realized how much the battle system has to offer.
In just the first 5 hours I got hooked and already put 27 hours into it on a new save file, and I can't remember a single time I was bored. Just the feeling of having to build this team and then get used to each character makes me love how the battle system was designed. For example, playing with a Shogunyan is different from playing with a Komane. One has a skill that gives critical attack more power, one has a skill that makes him more powerful when teamed up with his brother. One used physical attacks, another uses elemental. All of these different characters come together to allow you to build almost any team you can think of, which is why I loved playing it before, and why I love playing it now.
Gen 8 does have one thing going for it big time and that is the music, my god are there so many good tracks.
There is just something very significant being said about the fact that you can casually mention Agumon evolving into SkullGreymon in ONE episode 20 years ago in our childhoods and me going "Yup.", despite both of us not being Digimon fans and not thinking about Digimon at all for years at a time.
I mean, what is it about such episodes that leave such a striking impression that you remember some details but most importantly the FEELING they gave?
It just encapsulates truly great writing. Maybe not "truly great writing" in the sense of, say, Shakespeare; maybe not necessarily craft or whatever, but definitely a different kind of "truly great".
"you need to let go of pokemon"
*procedes to compare good games to pokemon, and rating them based on pokemon*
Because it's about advising Pokémon Trainers about what games would be right for them in particular?
@@autobotstarscream765 .......I think people who enjoy Pokémon, would prefer idk Pokémon games perhaps?
@@roboticminer8843 Yes, you would think so, you really would, but then 100 of these Pokémon is Dead videos all saying "I love Pokémon, but Pokémon sucks now and actually has sucked since Gen 6" clog up our feed ever since the SwooSh controversies started in force with the announcement of the limited roster.
@@autobotstarscream765 if you didn’t like sw/sh for valid reasons then I respect your opinion, but if you think sw/sh is bad because of the limited roster or the removal of megas then your just an entitled “fan” who doesn’t care about Pokémon.
@@roboticminer8843 I'm saying the roster seems to have been the last straw for a lot of angry people who would rather complain about that than more fundamental problems that they either ignored until then or didn't actually care about until they saw a hate bandwagon to jump on in the wake of #BBND.
Palworld devs saw this video
Pokemon actually cares more about the card game than the video games and it shows
0:23 Why Pokemon Is Dying.
6:50 Best Pokemon Game / Pokemon Was Always Easy.
11:28 Pokemon Competitor Intro.
14:37 Monster Rancher 2.
17:53 Digimon World Dawn/Dusk.
21:53 Dragon Quest Monsters Joker.
27:00 Invizimals.
28:30 Yo-Kai Watch.
32:26 Monster Hunter Stories.
37:47 Temtem.
39:45 Suggestions For A Competitor.
BASED!
i love the 3ds games but goddamn the older games are better
Gen 1 wasn't difficult, it was just awfully balanced.
Yeah. I had trouble with yellow and now I'm having trouble on let's go Pikachu.
While you make good arguments, the way you present them is very very poor. In an argument a good thing to do unless it cant be avoided or you can work around it is not to establish yourself as the enemy.
You failed to do that by painting your opposition as a strawman idiot, as well as letting your own bias's take over, when your audience goes on the defensive, you've lost.
I think you're holding onto the pokemon formula too hard. No one needs evolution or type charts. At the core these are just RPGs and they have their own methods for achieving a certain style of gameplay. I think you may be too focused on games being exactly like pokemon because you want to replace what the games no longer have instead of accepting these new worlds have their own rules and want to be unique instead of just more of the same shit as you argued is what made you give up on pokemon
The basoc Pokémon formula is monsters you acauore somehow that can (but not a necessity) evolve (look at Fossil Fighters 1) and have some sort of type system, and turn-based battles. That's the extent of the formula. A really good game can be made with it. Like Fossil Fighters.
Without types and catching monsters it's not a Pokémon style RPG. That's just how it is
I also suggest the Digimon Story Cybersleuth series. It has a really good story and good combat.
I liked the first and loved the second game. I love the Characters of Erika and Wormon.
Huh, this video was posted pretty close to the "official" conception for Palworld.
I’m hearing a lot of “I don’t personally like X” being espoused as gospel here
6:58 when he said Pokémon XD is the best Pokémon game hands down fight me, bro I will fight for you! 😂
Imagine making a pokemon video just to half way through, start reviewing pokemon alternatives
Considering the small amount of content in sword and shield there isn't much to talk about.
Ezio there is
Well..there's a lot of unused potential to talk about
Also a lot of problems
I'd say in terms of things that piss me off swsh are actually some of the largest content packed games out there
@@fortnitesexman they suck
Whiteboyangel I know?..
@@whiteboyangel4838 doesn’t mean there isn’t a lot of potential about the game.
pokemon crashed ,burned and died after gen 5
lets face facts here
Ive played rom hacks better than most pokemon games lmao
yeah....no it didn't die after gen 5 lol
@@Jdudec367 to be fair there were some things I liked about X and Y but the franchise 100% fell off afterwards 🤷🏻♂️
@@bug______ eh I disagree
@@Jdudec367 yes it died after gen 5 and for other people it died at gen 3
@@Agenthoneydew33 ""for other people" A franchise dying isn't subjective. It's not dead and never was dead.
I disagree that a game where you have to fuse monsters wouldn't be popular with kids, take at look at Persona and SMT, those games have become super popular recently and while they're admittedly aimed at older audiences, I have no doubt in my mind that kids would think fusing two or more monsters together to make a more powerful monster is cool as shit
Bro Pokémon will probably remain an exclusive on Nintendo platform forever
I think giving SMT a shot would be a good idea
I know this is just a me thing but what turns me of about SMT is how they seem so super dark and serious all the time. I like a good balance of dark and light elements. That is why Persona is more my cup of tea. I love Persona 5 and both Persona Q games.
Now its an anime /Manga series but the best example of what I mean is Made in Abyss. Its pretty awsome in balancing darker and lighter elements.
I think nearly all of the Digimon games from the Playstation Vita and PS4. Kicks Pokemon ass every way. Except for balanced netplay
Nino Kuni 1 might be the best Pokemon game out right now
Shin Megami Tensei is the OG monster collecting series and probably one if not the best one in the genre. But I don't think it could ever have the same appeal as Pokemon due to how dark and how hard it is.
Gotta love how somehow the entire SMT fanbase ended up in the comment section. BTW SMT is neat.
I’m glad SMT fans are giving recommendations.
That Cyberpunk 2077 line at the end didn't age very well...
Digimon still has potential if they just write a really good story. Everything else is pretty much there.
hopefully
Digimon card game is getting reinvigorated and japan actually like digimon mobile games so hopefully digimon comes back full force pokemon is so lame now
Shin Megami Tensei is by far the best monster collecting game.
I agree with MOST of the things in this video, but I'd just like to say that the four move rpg battle style needs to stay, it just needs better battle animations. The only change that the move system needs is more moves. Like maybe five or six moves.
For me the game that comes closest to older Pokemon games is Digimon World 1. Great adventure (exploration is a big part of this game), great storyline and quests, it's hard to get ultra digimon at first but the more progress you make in the game the easier it gets. Another thing I really enjoy about Digimon World 1 is that besides the basic storyline and quests you have to train your digimon and need to go battle technique hunting with each Digimon being able to only use certain battle techniques of the types they belong to. It gives you a really long playtime and it is super hard to finish the game on 100% (incl. having trained every available digimon, which are 40 + all need to have certain different stats, happiness and discipline levels to be obtained and having all the battle techniques, which is the hard part since there are some techs that can only be learned from certain boss monster fights). It also has good replay value since every adventure will be different depending on the starter digimon you choose and it's first digivolution.
If you're looking for a game to play during lockdown times I can only highly recommend you Digimon World 1.
There's a new indie game that was announced a while ago called Kindred Fates. And from the little we've seen it look really promising, it's more of a Action RPG take on the genre.
I've always found a single Mario & Luigi game better than the entire Pokemon franchise.
If you bought Sw/Sh you really have no room to talk about “sending a message”. You basically condoned their behavior
Well how would they talk about it if they didn't? People would just say that they "Didn't play the game, so they can't talk about it". Then if they bought it, they would say what you said. There really is no way to not be criticized for talking about it.
The 3ds models were used in the 3D pokedex app on the 3ds too. Also, the concept of Pokemon Duel was impressive, but that shut down. Should have been a full game on either 3ds or switch...
Edit: Walrein has been one of my favorite designs, ever since seeing it thrown out by Glacia to battle, in Pokemon Sapphire.
Literally the only things that Pokemon makes that haven't fell off are the anime, movies and merchandise
That's cause those make the real money.
Anime fell.off
SWSH has sold almost 20 million units...It might even beat Gold & Silver soon...so what the heck are you talking about 😅
@@riotkitty they mean in quality
"I let go" says the man making a 50 min long video complaining about the state of pokemon... well, I don't know, last time I played pokemon was sapphire I think, so I have absolutely no authority to speak on the issue of pokemon and if it's good anymore, but if you make a 50 min video about it? I'd say you care about it.
I would love essentially an updated Colosseum but with the quality of life updates Gale of Darkness had. A good potential competitor could be a revived Sailor Moon as that was a really good show
Sailor Moon is great and had a revival that resulted in Sailor Moon Crystal, and they did have one JRPG that was pretty cool, but it's not monster collection so it isn't a competitor to Pokémon, it exists in a separate sphere...
You can have your own opinion on this...I love pokemon, The designs are deep, and You can hate my guts but you know deep down that I am right.
lowkey ur buff/debuff thing sounds a lot like the gmax moves ahaha
Well, you are by know definitely one of my daily upload checking channels.
Love your attitude, views, voice, and passion.
Definitely gonna be one of my fav reviewers/ranters now and in the future.
Take a shot everytime he curses
Dead, thanks for the idea.
For me Pokemon lost charm when going into 3d graphics but gained charm with mega evolution and z moves. And then it lost all its charm when it decided to become a lazy cash grab which cant even make a half decent fucking special move. Although I loved the gym battles and I think they should bring that with a harder game, better animations, and a good story with no cash grab dlc. That would be a great pokemon game. But instead we get the big brain of blocking mechanics that should be released at the being instead of being part of a dlc only
You should check out the Shin Megami Tensei series. The newer games (SMT 3, SMT 4, SMT Digital Devil Saga, the mobile game) have the Press Turn System with is an evolution on the standard turn based combat system. You have to exploit the weakness of the enemies to get extra turns and you have you be aware that you team of demons is not weak against the attacks of the enemies because they can kill you in a couple turns
Persona is the adult version of Pokemon, go play any of them and you'll feel amazed that Final Fantasy and Pokemon had a baby you overlooked for so long
Like I responded to another guy, I really don't think Persona scratches the monster-catching itch. The Personas are too disposable and disconnected from the rest of the story (the social part, anyway).
@@SyntheticMan Persona is a spin-off of an actual monster collection franchise, Megami Tensei, and I just picked up SMT IV as the MegaTen game recommended to Pokémon fans.
also just gonna say shin megami tense came out before Pokemon and it actually popularized the monster collecting genre
Man I really miss the old Gen 3/4 anime series and movies. The franchise as a whole feels completely different now
Gen 4 anime was fire
The anime before Gen 7 was the bomb. Even the X and Y anime was good in my opinion
virgin gen 8 vs the chad gen 5,
also come on now, that eternatus cutscene costed us atleast 300 old pokemon we can't access
I was really disappointed with Pokemon Sword and Pokemon Ultra Moon in my opinion despite having less content Pokemon Moon was actually better. I don't really know why everytime Nintendo remake a game with more features they have to make the main characters from the original less important or less interesting. I liked Lily when she was the main character and her mother when she was fucking psycho. Why they changed that for some hoping world mechanic I can barely follow I don't understand. The surfing mini game was fun but even that technically interrupted the flow of the original story. Pokemon Sword meanwhile is too gimmicky and nothing really happens, also the gigantism is kind of a dumb gimmick I feel like the should have just done more mega-evolution and regional variants. Also I hate how they run the series like a toy franchise and keep getting rid of features the are find. Like patting the Pokemon was great last gen and letting Pokemon physically follow you back in Pokemon yellow or ride on your head in go is brilliant. I honestly think the best mini games and features have always been things like unique battle rotations and things that let you interact with your Pokemon or Pokemon in the overworld more. You know things that feed into the premise of being a Pokemon trainer. The second are the travel features things like unique cities or interesting npcs or stuff that makes your character interact well with the world such as the scent bed gimmick in Moon or answering N in Black and White. The third thing that's really important that I think Nintendo have been neglecting for awhile is difficulty. I'm not saying make it dark souls levels of difficult but it's a real turn off for nostalgic players that most fights are so easy.
Difficulty? LMFAO play an online ranked battle, and you'll be SORELY mistaken about the lack of difficulty
I get that. I barely remember X&Y and breezed through it. At least with Gen 7 & 8 I do remember some difficult battles, like with Mother Beast Lusamine, Allister, Leon, & Raihan. Although the two mistakes GameFreak made with SWSH in regards to difficulty where a) making the EXP share not turn off & b) the biggest one being you could go to Raid Dens so early on in the game, join & beat a few raids to get EXP candy to ridiculously over level your party. The AI has also been a problem.
I never had much problem with the gen 8 designs
I think claiming it's "dead" is a bit much, stagnating would be a better way to phrase it. Pokemon will probably keep going for a long while, but it probably won't change any time soon.
Yeah I agree. Stagnation is a much better term
And honestly why should pokemon even try improving if the audience will give them just as much of a profit? This is the main problem. It's too big to fail.
@@nekonomicon2983 Pretty much, meanwhile it's taken over a decade for Digimon to get back into some form of relevance with Cyber Sleuth and such. It's frustrating that Pokemon actually used to try and be somewhat creative, but any new idea they come up with is quickly discarded in the next-gen. Z-Moves, Mega evolution, and I guarantee Dynamax will be thrown out just like the previous "gimmicks".
To be fair, all the pokemon added into the dlc are free for people who don't have the dlc. You just need to trade with someone who does have that pokemon and your game does have to be updated
I switch out my pokemon to waste the experience and make it more challenging. It also gets me a headstart on the Pokedex grind.
Pokémon has been on a steady decline since Gen 6 onwards, and some might argue since Gen 4 onwards. The games have always had sub-par stories, but that wasn't the game's main draw. That's why they've been getting worse and worse over the years, because the stories are the same, but they're just more in your face about it. I was a massive fan since the 1st game, and I love coming back to Gen 2 or 3 now and then and enjoy many romhacks, but playing Gen 8 was an absolute slog to get thru because of how restrictive and handholding they were.
Recover from what? The overwhelming success of their latest games?
Nothing will change till the product sells, it's simple as that.
Pokemon has been dead for me
Lol this video is even more true now with how bad violet and scarlet was
For anyone on switch or ps4 who needs a good quality replacement for Sword and Shield, play Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory, I got it on sale and there was a clear passion put into the development for that game, which is something that sadly can't be said about the recent Pokemon games. I've literally become a Digimon fan because of how poor Pokemon has been doing lately and oh my God I've been missing out.
Great games i just hate how they the same game
I have been playing pokemon since gen 1 all the way up to gen 7.Finally gen 8 is what made me write off pokemon as a dead franchise. Fuck gen 8
Dropped out from Diamond, only regret missed out the swan song Black/White 1-2 before Gamefreak stopped caring.
Difficulty aside, 1v1's lack depth to titles like FF14 and Digimon. Doubles or nothing next pokemon titles or the Gamefreak deserves to let this series shrivel
Imagine saying that doubles is the only way Pokémon should be played
Man, as you said yourself, monster designs are completely subjective. Your tastes seem to be very different from mine as I like Temtem and gen 8 designs. Temtem is definitely the best one in your list and it's already very successful.
sad thing is all of the competitors failed to dethrone pokemon....
people need to take a hint that there's no such thing as an "X Killer"
Save for Digimon, which has become great in its own right. Same for Yu-Gi-Oh, as their card game is MUCH more successful than Pokemon's tcg. Yokai stepped up to the plate for a moment, but it wasn't able to keep up.
@@mawile2468 Digimon kinda is dying and only being kept alive by pandering to Adventures after the disasters that were Frontier, Fusions and Appimon. Not only that but they resorted to otaku pandering through more "female humanoid digimon" as well as issues of recolors and retcons that made some digimon more OP than what they were.
Yu-Gi-Oh's issue is its game is reaching feature creeping to where now all matches must end on speed and less strategy. Also, Konami's bad marketing isn't helping either and only survives as its sole cash cow. Pokemon's block format is just hated due to that (but also prevents broken combos that Yugioh has had a plague)
Yokai didn't have the worldwide recognition it needed, due to the nature of using Japanese cryptos to push the market.
Sun and Moon was the last stop for me. The 4-hour tutorial, the constant interrupting cutscenes, the endless dialogue, the unimaginative routes, the lack of exploration; I can’t imagine playing that game again. First and last Pokémon game I had to beat through the power of sheer buyer’s remorse. Sad to see Sword and Shield continue the trend.
My suggestion for a pokemon clone? Fossil Fighters. Frontier kind of sucked, but Champions was awesome imho.
Thumbs up when I saw the monster ranger. We ran through ever cd we could find and lost my mind when I found the Phoenix bird from the show.
Also how many of you ever heard of fossil fighter
Cause that was wayyy more fun then any of the modern Pokémon games
Go look for a game and then play it through completely and tell me how it was
I have. Beat the first one and Champions.
Tried playing Frontier too, but gave up on it.
I remember a goofy story and a robust battle system.
@@a-s-greig it was fun thou
Shin Megami Tensei is basically a Pokemon competitor and probably the strongest. Well, I used to call it "The Edgy Pokemon Game".
Its actually older than pokemon