Well second fight scene he fights batman who is also a well trained acrobat who can dodge gunfire so obviously acrobatics won't do much there and when him and batman get into a explosion in the video in that movie Jason ambushed them to begin with so it doesn't count same with the deathstroke fight he led him out into a ambush without any bat gear to help out while deathstroke using some gadget's and nightwing was injured half of that fight and deathstroke had the up hand with the element of surprise
@Donn Pierre omg yes I've heard that too. It's so weird that DC hates him. He's incredibly popular with fans and of they treated him better they'd make more money. But DC seems to be allergic to doing things the fans like lmao
@@stephaniemartorelli6860 they do this to Nightwing, anytime BatCat has the opportunity to be a happy, healthy long-term relationship, anytime Harlivy could be a happy, healthy long-term relationship that sticks to their characters and personalities, and goes for the chance to kill off a Batfamily member as if Jason's own death wasn't enough already. like damn let these guys be happy and not be a punching bag for once
@@stephaniemartorelli6860 Yes especially in Injustice. But to be fair though, Tom Taylor's current Nightwing run is pretty solid - he actually knows and respects Nightwing's character.
My man literally gets the Vegeta treatment in these films. They both look badass and sure, they’re more or less equal to Goku/Batman.. but they’re always getting their asses kicked to set some sort of example and to make Batman/Goku look a lot cooler when they show up to save the day.
@@kozumekenma9157 you might like him more in the comics because he leans towards Dick more so they have a good bond (except for Injustice) and he’s good with animals. Because of him, they have additional pets including one named Batcow because of the brown fur covering its eyes. Damian also goes on journeys to make up for what he’s done and he learns how to get along with some other kids
@@twentyonetortas5921 I will check them out. I used to not like other robins when I was wayy younger and even though I like them now (not as much as grayson) I still hated some fans. Or just like some aspects. And like Damian made me so mad💀💀 but do u have any comic suggestions??
Honestly Young Justice, Teen Titans, and the Arkham Games/Batman TAS are essentially the only media I've seen DC actually respect the rest of the Batfamily in. I freaking love the rest of the Batfamily, especially Barbara, and wish that they would be given the proper respect they deserve in mainstream media. Hell, even in the comics they sometimes screw them over (I'm looking at you, Batgirl of Burnside). I'm excited that they seem to finally be doing this in some capacity with the Gotham Knights game, but at the same time I don't have high hopes for it as the gameplay and overall structure just doesn't look good.
@@michaelpascual3581 to be honest what was he supposed to do against a freaking kryptonian that was powering up two other kryptonians with zero prep time?
Dick Grayson has already: - made himself equal to Batman, has beat him from what I've heard, and may even be able to surpass him (from what I heard there were comics where he already did surpass Bats and Bruce was proud but if it really hasn't happened yet then I'm sure Dick will surpass him someday) - maintained and improved his acrobatic skills even after he left the circus - has impressed Batman with his skills in acrobats and combats to the point where even he wanted to learn some tricks - was able to sneak up on the Justice League in their secret meetings and they only knew about it after he wasn't interested in hiding anymore - has beat one or some of the Flash members against a race that took place in a complicated maze - successfully snuck into Area 51 long before it was even a meme - beat Slade Wilson/Deathstroke in fights - beat The Court of Owls and that one time he had to be a member, he was even considered an equal or even stronger than the rest - been skilled enough to be an agent aka Spiral - proven to everyone that he's a better, clearer, and brighter version of who Batman was supposed to be and the purpose of Batman and this was Bruce's words btw. Bruce wanted to make Dick grow into a hero that didn't have depression, trauma, and darkness fully consuming him and he succeeded in that goal. - done so much more to prove why he would be the next Batman besides Tim Drake (who surpassed Bats in detective skills and was the only one that figured out how Bruce wasn't truly dead) There are videos, comics, and other stuff to showing how Dick Grayson is one of Batman's greatest successes and how Dick Grayson/Nightwing showed how he's his own hero instead of staying under Batman's shadow or having people always lump him with Batman. Dick has already done multiple, incredible stuff and went on several journeys. So idek why they nerfed his growth and abilities in these animated films. He left Batman before joining Teen Titans and went on his own journey afterwards before finally becoming Nightwing so why diminish his growth like this? The few animations I could think of that recognize and respect his abilities and progress are Teen Titans and Young Justice (and people have lots of opinions about the later seasons and someone said that he got killed off so I can't tell if YJ has also screwed Dick over). I'm sure they could introduce Batwoman, Damian, and the rest of the Batfam without nerfing tf out of Dick and other people. And even if Dick hasn't beat or surpassed Batman yet that doesn't mean Dick should be a nerfed, sparring dummy for everyone to constantly beat in the animations. There are comics that showed how they're all strong and different from each other without necessarily turning one of them into a constant punching bag - by constant punching bag, a good example is how it's mostly Kenny from South Park that gets killed compared to the rest of the friends - so why do this with Dick in the animations? Other characters can be introduced without having to nerf and diminish Dick's true abilities like this (I don't see any of that happening to Batman, some Teen Titans, Damian, etc.). And based on the replies people are arguing on whether or not Dick has become equal or surpassed Batman. Regardless of whatever the answer to that is, it doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous seeing Dick's abilities, skills, and progressed being disregarded in these animations, seeing him nerfed more severely than the rest of the characters, seeing him thrown around and lose without putting up as much of a fight as he's capable of (and even if there's a fight where he will lose, we know he can do so much more and make his opponents struggle for a while before that loss even happens), and seeing him get this treatment just so the other characters can look impressive when I'm sure there's more than enough room for everyone's abilities to be displayed without having to nerf and put down one person. Like the spotlight is large enough for Dick and everyone else. Look at ATLA, there were fights, wins, and losses but they showed how badass and skilled everyone is with their own abilities and how even with the losses, they still put up a good fight and it still took effort for their opponents to make a lose happen.
He's so fucking based in TT and YJ. He recently basically figured the entire plot of the season 4 YJ on his own, with the others only providing information and stuff.
@@franciskaranja9293 Not enough things recognize this though… Technically he’s in the running for Arguably top 2 spot behind Batman himself, folks love to claim Tim as the 2ND greatest detective in DC to first if Batman isn’t around but Dick has shown he can keep up. Folks just wanna give Tim a purpose since he was stated to be the worst fighter of the Robins and is pretty much useless since he doesn’t provide moral support nor Brain sometimes… others can fill that role like Barbara…
Total : -Stabbed by seven knifes in the legs, arms and chest. -Hallucination due to a fear gas (+cut) -Broken leg -Left shoulder dislocated -Left shoulder dislocated (again)
Its like they just want him to he there to make damian and batman look cool. And then they have to beat him up to justify why he isnt in the main fight (like in hush, be serious this guy has been fighting scarecrow since he was 9) just say he cant be there cause he has a date with starfire or something
Nightwing is supposed to be the world's greatest acrobat and equal to Batman in combat skills. I have no idea what these movies gain from downplaying his skills so badly, except for trying to make Damian and Bruce look better in comparison. I think we can all agree how ridiculously OP Damian was here. The kid's 10. I don't care how much training you have, a 10 year old can't handle half of the shit he pulled in these movies. He's a great character, sure, but if the writers can't show that without making the rest of the cast look incompetent, then they're bad at their jobs and they probably haven't read enough comics.
fr I don't necessarily have favs among the Batboys and I recognize Damian's strengths and how he can progress further but even he got beat by Dick, Jason, and/or Tim (like in the Robin Wars) so why is all that power and glory going to just Damian like why not share it with Dick
At least I’m Under The Red Hood, Jason was more or less on a similar skill gap and in Bad Blood he was facing a Batman who was trying to kill him, but the other examples were pretty inexcusable. You don’t just run up to Scarecrow without a plan.
@@Artryom you don’t just forget Scarecrow’s singular gimmick. As shown, the fear gas can be just short of a instant win for him. There’s being confident, and then there’s being stupid in a line of work with a high death count.
@@meloneatingwolf1882 Since when has Scarecrow in a movie or show, animated or live-action been Scary, intimidating or A winner? Let's face it, the writers just hate NW as this video shows and just wanted to do that to him when he should be able to by this point, EZily destroy Scarecrow. Thinking of consistency, NW is the way better fighter, he knows his fear gas, his Fear illusion didn't even make sense... Selina has never faced off against Scarecrow, woulda made sense if she jumped in since she's more ruthless than NW naturally but the writers woulda had her 1shot him. If NW was switched out with Damian like he shoulda been, Damian woulda 1shotted this Emo clown. If literally anyone else, he wouldn't have won. Scarecrow's only scary in the comics. Fear gas is only an insta-win on the normies of Gotham.
He's so underrated. He's litterally the strongest 2nd generation hero and he was so well written but either people forget it cause of his personality or some of the writers suck. Or maybe he's secretly holding back idk but it sucks
fr it's one thing if it's everyone but it's another thing if it's just Dick only that gets nerfed. And Dick is one of Batman's greatest successes and Dick has some of the largest growth while proving that he's his own person and hero instead of just an extension of Batman so to have only him that's nerfed and targeted wouldn't make that much sense
"Oh no, Nightwing got Yamcha'd!" Can we refer to really great and competent characters getting cucked like Dick here a 'Nightwing'd'? I think it has a neat little ring to it: "Oh no, {X} got Nightwing'd!"
@@jockeyfield1954 fr in Batman Beyond, Terry finds a jacket with the initials D.G. and when he asked who D.G. was, Bruce swiped it from him. Turns out in that universe, Dick beat the crap out of Bruce and left him after finding out he and Babs were a thing. Like imagine the person who was closest to being your father has been sleeping with your ex that you've known since you were kids
LMAO the way nightwing just stood there and let those grapples pierce him? Like it's one thing to not see it coming (though you think he'd have heard it) it's another to just stand there and let them all pierce you, not even flinching or attempting to dodge even after the first 2 hit your legs. What happened to his reflexes? And the way he just got slowly dragged away lmao. Didn't even try to move or cut the grapple lines. At least in the other fights he managed to look kind of cool... that court of owls fight was just sad
Technically the 2nd broken bone was a dislocated arm because we later see him pop it back in. Wait or do dislocated arms count as a broken bone??🤔 ALSO HOW COME WE NEVER SEE HIM IN A CAST OR SOMETHING LIKE DUDE THOSE THINGS NEED TO HEAL!?!
If you had watched the rest of the movie that the second clip is from you would know that a few scenes later nightwing is using his arm again after he popped his shoulder back into socket which mean when he caught himself from falling off the building he dislocated shoulder not break it.
You know but I think it would be awesome if Nightwing was awesome because then you could see that Bruce accomplished his goal which was to create a superhero that didn't live in depression trauma darkness
Dick Grayson is one of Batman's greatest successes so the way they treat Dick is not only a major insult to his progress, growth, journey, and individuality but it also disrespects Batman's mentoring skills
They really had to do this to the most successful Robin out of them all. They could of at least done it to Damian or Jason for all I care. Dick really doesn’t deserve this.
I mean, YJ and the OG TT are the only shows that give him the respect he deserves, even if in YJ he is being pretty sidelined at the moment (in what was supposed to be his own arc 😑). Hopefully the writers are aware of this, and if we stream the show enough on HBO max, WB will renew it for season 5. Then we might get to see more Nightwing like we did on the other seasons.
My man was an absolute JOKE in the DCAU Everyone and I mean EVERYONE bodies him him At least I’m under the red boys he was somewhat useful. Outside of that he’s the punching bag. Even his girl ends up embarrassing him in front of everyone
Honestly I don’t think writer down play him I think it’s because dick is a softest robin when you think about compare to the other robins I think he doesn’t like taking as far as Damien or Jason Todd would these two are brutal and are not afraid of killing a person if need be
The real reason why is because in the dcau he is vegeta. They need to show how strong the villain is so they have the villain beat nightwing up. To those saying nightwing isn't the best fighter of the Robin's. He is by far the best. Not only due to experience and age but also because he just is better. Batman has said it himself to damian before it goes dick, Tim, Jason, damian. But Jason would beat Tim because he's stronger and more durable. As far as potential goes. Damian will one day be the best fighter but only because Tim's ultimate path leads to hanging up the cape and cowl and being a hero using his brilliant mind and the assets of Wayne enterprises.
Yeah i keep seeing alot of Dick downplay, mostly from people who've only seen the movies. People forget that he's one of the few robins to actually beat Batman in a fight. Also Jason doesnt beat Tim just because he's stronger and more durable, he's also a better fighter as of new 52, this was confirmed by future Tim, and pretty much equal to Dick at this point.
it almost feels like his acrobatic skills are either downplayed or forgotten
Well second fight scene he fights batman who is also a well trained acrobat who can dodge gunfire so obviously acrobatics won't do much there and when him and batman get into a explosion in the video in that movie Jason ambushed them to begin with so it doesn't count same with the deathstroke fight he led him out into a ambush without any bat gear to help out while deathstroke using some gadget's and nightwing was injured half of that fight and deathstroke had the up hand with the element of surprise
@@Frost_actual dude Batman is not an acrobat. He is heck skilled than him but nothing in front of him when it comes to agility though.
@@Oniichxn._ but he is
@@bird20040 but he is what? And who is he here?
@@bird20040 no....hes not. Batman is nowhere as agile as Dick. Period. Doesnt mean he isn't more skilled in a fight but agility? Absolutely not
Anyone who wasn't a Wayne got done dirty in the new 52 movies
F's in the chat for Tim and Jason not even fucking existing.
😂😂😂 wayne privledge
Anyone who wasnt Damian you mean
@@javierlopez9789 Damian died twice and got to be revived, even when the universe ended he still got a gf.
@@Vegitodraws Considering how Dick was treated, that might be blessing for them. 😅
Why is Nightwing such a punching bag for writers to use? He's supposed to be the most successful Robin.
Well the TV show titans buffed him up
@@nightwing5069 yeah i ain't for that show though. call me shallow, but the costumes threw me off immediately from it
@@oneangryboi408 yea the nerfed the hell outta Starfire and Wonder Girl
@@HELLO_KORO That's what happens when your budget is low. Even the characters have to be nerfed to conserve that budget.
maybe there’s no other Robin left to compete.
The movies really nerfed him. why they have to do my boy like this
@Donn Pierre omg yes I've heard that too. It's so weird that DC hates him. He's incredibly popular with fans and of they treated him better they'd make more money. But DC seems to be allergic to doing things the fans like lmao
@Donn Pierre DC always on sum bullshit what's the point of throwing your customers interests in the garbage
@Donn Pierre Wally West...
@@stephaniemartorelli6860 they do this to Nightwing, anytime BatCat has the opportunity to be a happy, healthy long-term relationship, anytime Harlivy could be a happy, healthy long-term relationship that sticks to their characters and personalities, and goes for the chance to kill off a Batfamily member as if Jason's own death wasn't enough already. like damn let these guys be happy and not be a punching bag for once
@@stephaniemartorelli6860 Yes especially in Injustice. But to be fair though, Tom Taylor's current Nightwing run is pretty solid - he actually knows and respects Nightwing's character.
My man literally gets the Vegeta treatment in these films. They both look badass and sure, they’re more or less equal to Goku/Batman.. but they’re always getting their asses kicked to set some sort of example and to make Batman/Goku look a lot cooler when they show up to save the day.
Nightwing has it worse as most of the time he gets shit on to make Damien look good
@@mattmalco10 and died in the most stupid way possible
idk, the only cool entrance Goku had when saving the day last minute was against Freeza, all the other ones were kinda lame.
@@mattmalco10 nah you really need to see Vegeta’s L moments 💀
More like yamcha
I’m all for hurt but why can’t they just make him cool for once. Like don’t make Nightwing look weak just because you want Damian to look cool.
Damain litterally annoys me so much. Idk if it's cuz of his personality but he looks weaker whenever he tries to be arrogant
@@kozumekenma9157 you might like him more in the comics because he leans towards Dick more so they have a good bond (except for Injustice) and he’s good with animals. Because of him, they have additional pets including one named Batcow because of the brown fur covering its eyes. Damian also goes on journeys to make up for what he’s done and he learns how to get along with some other kids
@@twentyonetortas5921 I will check them out. I used to not like other robins when I was wayy younger and even though I like them now (not as much as grayson) I still hated some fans. Or just like some aspects. And like Damian made me so mad💀💀 but do u have any comic suggestions??
I'm just glad Young Justice respects him, his abilities, and his leadership skills.
Honestly Young Justice, Teen Titans, and the Arkham Games/Batman TAS are essentially the only media I've seen DC actually respect the rest of the Batfamily in. I freaking love the rest of the Batfamily, especially Barbara, and wish that they would be given the proper respect they deserve in mainstream media. Hell, even in the comics they sometimes screw them over (I'm looking at you, Batgirl of Burnside). I'm excited that they seem to finally be doing this in some capacity with the Gotham Knights game, but at the same time I don't have high hopes for it as the gameplay and overall structure just doesn't look good.
just didn't respect his personality
They just have to give him cool fight scenes. Dude has pratically only been fighting mooks since season 2. The Arrow Family gets the best fights imo
Dude just got knocked out by Lor Zod
@@michaelpascual3581 to be honest what was he supposed to do against a freaking kryptonian that was powering up two other kryptonians with zero prep time?
"You're Overrated kid."
That line there proves that the writers of this universe hated Nightwing.
Dick Grayson has already:
- made himself equal to Batman, has beat him from what I've heard, and may even be able to surpass him (from what I heard there were comics where he already did surpass Bats and Bruce was proud but if it really hasn't happened yet then I'm sure Dick will surpass him someday)
- maintained and improved his acrobatic skills even after he left the circus
- has impressed Batman with his skills in acrobats and combats to the point where even he wanted to learn some tricks
- was able to sneak up on the Justice League in their secret meetings and they only knew about it after he wasn't interested in hiding anymore
- has beat one or some of the Flash members against a race that took place in a complicated maze
- successfully snuck into Area 51 long before it was even a meme
- beat Slade Wilson/Deathstroke in fights
- beat The Court of Owls and that one time he had to be a member, he was even considered an equal or even stronger than the rest
- been skilled enough to be an agent aka Spiral
- proven to everyone that he's a better, clearer, and brighter version of who Batman was supposed to be and the purpose of Batman and this was Bruce's words btw. Bruce wanted to make Dick grow into a hero that didn't have depression, trauma, and darkness fully consuming him and he succeeded in that goal.
- done so much more to prove why he would be the next Batman besides Tim Drake (who surpassed Bats in detective skills and was the only one that figured out how Bruce wasn't truly dead)
There are videos, comics, and other stuff to showing how Dick Grayson is one of Batman's greatest successes and how Dick Grayson/Nightwing showed how he's his own hero instead of staying under Batman's shadow or having people always lump him with Batman. Dick has already done multiple, incredible stuff and went on several journeys.
So idek why they nerfed his growth and abilities in these animated films. He left Batman before joining Teen Titans and went on his own journey afterwards before finally becoming Nightwing so why diminish his growth like this? The few animations I could think of that recognize and respect his abilities and progress are Teen Titans and Young Justice (and people have lots of opinions about the later seasons and someone said that he got killed off so I can't tell if YJ has also screwed Dick over). I'm sure they could introduce Batwoman, Damian, and the rest of the Batfam without nerfing tf out of Dick and other people. And even if Dick hasn't beat or surpassed Batman yet that doesn't mean Dick should be a nerfed, sparring dummy for everyone to constantly beat in the animations. There are comics that showed how they're all strong and different from each other without necessarily turning one of them into a constant punching bag - by constant punching bag, a good example is how it's mostly Kenny from South Park that gets killed compared to the rest of the friends - so why do this with Dick in the animations? Other characters can be introduced without having to nerf and diminish Dick's true abilities like this (I don't see any of that happening to Batman, some Teen Titans, Damian, etc.).
And based on the replies people are arguing on whether or not Dick has become equal or surpassed Batman. Regardless of whatever the answer to that is, it doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous seeing Dick's abilities, skills, and progressed being disregarded in these animations, seeing him nerfed more severely than the rest of the characters, seeing him thrown around and lose without putting up as much of a fight as he's capable of (and even if there's a fight where he will lose, we know he can do so much more and make his opponents struggle for a while before that loss even happens), and seeing him get this treatment just so the other characters can look impressive when I'm sure there's more than enough room for everyone's abilities to be displayed without having to nerf and put down one person. Like the spotlight is large enough for Dick and everyone else. Look at ATLA, there were fights, wins, and losses but they showed how badass and skilled everyone is with their own abilities and how even with the losses, they still put up a good fight and it still took effort for their opponents to make a lose happen.
He's so fucking based in TT and YJ. He recently basically figured the entire plot of the season 4 YJ on his own, with the others only providing information and stuff.
@@aakarshasoka6335 well, he is a detective
@@franciskaranja9293 Not enough things recognize this though…
Technically he’s in the running for Arguably top 2 spot behind Batman himself, folks love to claim Tim as the 2ND greatest detective in DC to first if Batman isn’t around but Dick has shown he can keep up.
Folks just wanna give Tim a purpose since he was stated to be the worst fighter of the Robins and is pretty much useless since he doesn’t provide moral support nor Brain sometimes… others can fill that role like Barbara…
There is also Batman TAS and The Batman.
@@Artryom Bruce himself confirmed that Tim will surpass him as a detective during Hush, but whatever.
Total :
-Stabbed by seven knifes in the legs, arms and chest.
-Hallucination due to a fear gas (+cut)
-Broken leg
-Left shoulder dislocated
-Left shoulder dislocated (again)
And he's still kicking. Despite getting destroyed all the time he has strong plot Armor
@@greenknight8668 More like the guys who could do that to him have strong plot armor…
He’s dodged bullets but couldn’t dodge much of this crap..
@@greenknight8668 he literally dies in this universe. However strong his plot armour it’s much weaker then every other main character clearly
@@chanceofbliss8175 well he came back to life so technically he’s alive well before flash did his thing
We need a nightwing animated spinoff or something to show his full potential. My boy is a legend
Its like they just want him to he there to make damian and batman look cool. And then they have to beat him up to justify why he isnt in the main fight (like in hush, be serious this guy has been fighting scarecrow since he was 9) just say he cant be there cause he has a date with starfire or something
The last part would make so much more sense.
Why is he such a punching bag in this universe
Because Damian has to look good despite being the worst Robin
@@ghosty8745 yeah he is The Sasuke of this movies, The plot always has to go out of its way to make him seem cool and its really annoying
rip our boy truly
unrelated but i love ur paramore pfp
I knew I wasn't exaggerating when I said the writers hate him.
Nightwing is supposed to be the world's greatest acrobat and equal to Batman in combat skills. I have no idea what these movies gain from downplaying his skills so badly, except for trying to make Damian and Bruce look better in comparison. I think we can all agree how ridiculously OP Damian was here. The kid's 10. I don't care how much training you have, a 10 year old can't handle half of the shit he pulled in these movies. He's a great character, sure, but if the writers can't show that without making the rest of the cast look incompetent, then they're bad at their jobs and they probably haven't read enough comics.
fr I don't necessarily have favs among the Batboys and I recognize Damian's strengths and how he can progress further but even he got beat by Dick, Jason, and/or Tim (like in the Robin Wars) so why is all that power and glory going to just Damian like why not share it with Dick
Man Nightwing my favorite dc character, and the way Dc treats him makes me sad 😔
At least I’m Under The Red Hood, Jason was more or less on a similar skill gap and in Bad Blood he was facing a Batman who was trying to kill him, but the other examples were pretty inexcusable. You don’t just run up to Scarecrow without a plan.
IF said Scarecrow was as incompetent as the one he was facing and has been DESTROYED many, many times as when he was Robin, then ya do..
@@Artryom you don’t just forget Scarecrow’s singular gimmick. As shown, the fear gas can be just short of a instant win for him. There’s being confident, and then there’s being stupid in a line of work with a high death count.
@@meloneatingwolf1882 Since when has Scarecrow in a movie or show, animated or live-action been Scary, intimidating or A winner?
Let's face it, the writers just hate NW as this video shows and just wanted to do that to him when he should be able to by this point, EZily destroy Scarecrow. Thinking of consistency, NW is the way better fighter, he knows his fear gas, his Fear illusion didn't even make sense...
Selina has never faced off against Scarecrow, woulda made sense if she jumped in since she's more ruthless than NW naturally but the writers woulda had her 1shot him. If NW was switched out with Damian like he shoulda been, Damian woulda 1shotted this Emo clown. If literally anyone else, he wouldn't have won.
Scarecrow's only scary in the comics.
Fear gas is only an insta-win on the normies of Gotham.
@@Artryom Scarecrow has been scary in The New Batman Adventures
@@Artryom if we count video games he was hella scary in Arkham knight. 9/10 scarecrow wins had it not been Batman
They really turned nightwing into nighttwink
Nightwing and shazam are always used as punching bags
He’s like the one guy that’s just kept so that he could get better, but easily gets outclassed by others in a matter of time.
He's so underrated. He's litterally the strongest 2nd generation hero and he was so well written but either people forget it cause of his personality or some of the writers suck. Or maybe he's secretly holding back idk but it sucks
You know how painful it is to see your favorite superhero period get crapped on is? Watch this
Everyone is always nerfed to make Batman look good
Yeah because he’s without a doubt (and I don’t mean to hurt the Batman fanboys) THE MOST OVERRATED SUPERHERO OF ALL TIME.
@@enderethan144 yeah ur opinion is dumb mate
fr it's one thing if it's everyone but it's another thing if it's just Dick only that gets nerfed. And Dick is one of Batman's greatest successes and Dick has some of the largest growth while proving that he's his own person and hero instead of just an extension of Batman so to have only him that's nerfed and targeted wouldn't make that much sense
@@twentyonetortas5921 It’s not only dick who’s gets nerfed it’s every over underrated and under appreciated Superhero.
To make Damian look cool you mean
"Oh no, Nightwing got Yamcha'd!"
Can we refer to really great and competent characters getting cucked like Dick here a 'Nightwing'd'? I think it has a neat little ring to it: "Oh no, {X} got Nightwing'd!"
why does batman like beating up his kids so much?
It's not how much you get beat up...it's how much you get up afterwards.
It is about how much you get beat up and Nightwing got beat up a lot in these movies.
Young justice is the best version for sure
In other series Deathstroke: I'll do anything, be my sidekick.
DC Animated Deathstroke: You're overrated.
This video gives me so much rage... He's my favorite DC character and he's getting washed by everyone.
Forgot when he lost to Starfire and Deathstroke in a 2 v 1 with Damian
His portrayal in young justice is much better
Deathstroke wasn’t lying when he said “You’re overrated, kid.” At least in the animated universe
They nerf him so hard in this universe. Just like Spider-Man in marvels Spider-Man 2.
DCAU did him so terribly
Thats the DCAMU but the DCAU was not very good to him either
@@manuellarodrigues4386 Why wasn't the DCAU very good to him either?
@@trevturp6891 idk, maybe it's the fact that BRUCE SCREWED HIS GF
@@manuellarodrigues4386 The DCAU was better to Dick than the DCAMU. Aside from the mullet
@@jockeyfield1954 fr in Batman Beyond, Terry finds a jacket with the initials D.G. and when he asked who D.G. was, Bruce swiped it from him. Turns out in that universe, Dick beat the crap out of Bruce and left him after finding out he and Babs were a thing. Like imagine the person who was closest to being your father has been sleeping with your ex that you've known since you were kids
LMAO the way nightwing just stood there and let those grapples pierce him? Like it's one thing to not see it coming (though you think he'd have heard it) it's another to just stand there and let them all pierce you, not even flinching or attempting to dodge even after the first 2 hit your legs. What happened to his reflexes? And the way he just got slowly dragged away lmao. Didn't even try to move or cut the grapple lines. At least in the other fights he managed to look kind of cool... that court of owls fight was just sad
fr he literally had 4 seconds to dodge wtf happened 😭
Nightwing fans when they hear about small rocks or Tarantulas.
Why is Nightwing consistently getting violated in movies and comics. Do the writers just hate him?
Ikr, I don't even read comics but when I do he's shown to be weak af
I swear my dude nightwing is the bat family punching bag smh
He would've dodged those knives at the beginning with ease and with a few extra back flips
Why do they do dis to my boi nightwing like that man?
The video saying nightwing getting beat up for 2 min 29 sec
It is actually 30 seconds
Me:Impossible
yeahhhh he's been so very impressive when he was just the original Robin
It's a platform thing
Forgot to add Apokolips War where he got stabbed in the abdomen
How is this man still able to move after having so many of his bones broken over the years?
God they nerfed him so bad.
I really hate hiw he gets used just to prove hod powerful the antagonist is. Even tho in the comics my man is bruce's equal
Thank you
Forgot the fight with Damian
That fight was an insult to the character, comic Dick can put Damian on his ass in 5 seconds.
Night wing only gets to shine in young Justice
Man...Dick's design in these films is inversely proportional to his capabilities
Writers of this movies clearly have zero clue of his skillset
Him and Cyborg get disrespected so badly 😂
They really dropped the ball with Nightwing
bruh they didn't even pick up the ball they just let it roll outside the court
I hate writers for always downplaying either of the robins and Richard and damian the most.
Notice how Young Justice isn't here 😎
People keep going for his arms. Maybe he should go the Bucky route
1:41 that is the most convenient pile of trash ever
my boy gets so much disrespect 😭 he’s supposed to be An Equal to batman in terms of physicality
His portrayal in young justice is much better
Keep in mind that he's supposedly one of the most accomplished fighters in the multiverse.
DCAU really has a hard on for screwing him over. Probably cause he’s such a chad in the comics.
Bro nightwing must have the most fragile arm bones ever lol, the same arm gets broken like every time he appears
They always made him seem weak and it always bothered me
At least YJ knows where he’s at. 😌
they always nerfing somebody
it’s hilarious that all the writers decided to beat the shit out of him 24/7. he’s my poor little meow meow
"Hello, I'm Dick Grayson and this is Gotham city. Welcome to Jackass!"
All of that for making the crybaby edge lord Damien look cool
Technically the 2nd broken bone was a dislocated arm because we later see him pop it back in. Wait or do dislocated arms count as a broken bone??🤔 ALSO HOW COME WE NEVER SEE HIM IN A CAST OR SOMETHING LIKE DUDE THOSE THINGS NEED TO HEAL!?!
They did my boy dirty
Mans got torn up by Harley Quinn, then tries to fight Batman 💀💀💀
Didn't know he got beat so bad in the DCAMU
If you had watched the rest of the movie that the second clip is from you would know that a few scenes later nightwing is using his arm again after he popped his shoulder back into socket which mean when he caught himself from falling off the building he dislocated shoulder not break it.
I thought Batman never kills. Be he just killed some underling owls.
Hes like kotal Kahn always getting man handled
I think that the first broker bone from UTRH was just a sprain, not a fracture
Look how they massacred my boy😔
It's official dc don't give a shit about their best superhero
He has so much potential, he could be a real beast yet they decide to made Damian Wayne the better one
You know but I think it would be awesome if Nightwing was awesome because then you could see that Bruce accomplished his goal which was to create a superhero that didn't live in depression trauma darkness
Dick Grayson is one of Batman's greatest successes so the way they treat Dick is not only a major insult to his progress, growth, journey, and individuality but it also disrespects Batman's mentoring skills
@@twentyonetortas5921 so true they nerfed him so hard in the DCAMU that even made Bruce look a little bad like a very bad mentor.
They really had to do this to the most successful Robin out of them all. They could of at least done it to Damian or Jason for all I care. Dick really doesn’t deserve this.
Nah Jason doesn't deserve that! He's the coolest for me
my poor boy
Strong opening
Bro they disrespected him the entire dcamu
guess the writer really hates Nightwing bruh
The DCAU obviously had a favorite Robin lmao, and it's not Dick
Damn does Dc hate night wing that much
this makes it seem like getting the crap beat out of him is the only thing that has ever happened to Dick
0:35 I guess this could be down to Batman going for the kill since he was under mind control but Grayson is supposed to be near enough Bruce's equal
Can somebody say all that animations name in this scenes in this video?
Think that’s bad, watch the new episode of Young Justice
literally a main character in that show to they just did him so dirty I'm big mad
I mean, YJ and the OG TT are the only shows that give him the respect he deserves, even if in YJ he is being pretty sidelined at the moment (in what was supposed to be his own arc 😑). Hopefully the writers are aware of this, and if we stream the show enough on HBO max, WB will renew it for season 5. Then we might get to see more Nightwing like we did on the other seasons.
@@bg_3605spoilers ahead... heres hoping he ain't actually dead
@@josephbirhall3109 I know and I literally saw this on YT as I saw what they did to him in the new episode
@@bg_3605 no he’s not getting sidelined he got something worse
My man was an absolute JOKE in the DCAU
Everyone and I mean EVERYONE bodies him him
At least I’m under the red boys he was somewhat useful. Outside of that he’s the punching bag. Even his girl ends up embarrassing him in front of everyone
But like did batman kill those three court of owls dudes with batarangs in their heads?
WHAT WAS THAT FIRST SCENE??!?!!? NAUR
Honestly I don’t think writer down play him I think it’s because dick is a softest robin when you think about compare to the other robins I think he doesn’t like taking as far as Damien or Jason Todd would these two are brutal and are not afraid of killing a person if need be
One of the producers of the movies doesn't like hinso they treat him as a joke
Young justice nightwing is the best
Too much for not killing.
The real reason why is because in the dcau he is vegeta. They need to show how strong the villain is so they have the villain beat nightwing up.
To those saying nightwing isn't the best fighter of the Robin's. He is by far the best. Not only due to experience and age but also because he just is better. Batman has said it himself to damian before it goes dick, Tim, Jason, damian. But Jason would beat Tim because he's stronger and more durable. As far as potential goes. Damian will one day be the best fighter but only because Tim's ultimate path leads to hanging up the cape and cowl and being a hero using his brilliant mind and the assets of Wayne enterprises.
Yeah i keep seeing alot of Dick downplay, mostly from people who've only seen the movies. People forget that he's one of the few robins to actually beat Batman in a fight. Also Jason doesnt beat Tim just because he's stronger and more durable, he's also a better fighter as of new 52, this was confirmed by future Tim, and pretty much equal to Dick at this point.
That's very wrong there is no way Tim is a better fighter than Jason and id argue Jason is on par with dick
Did batman just kill? 🤣🤣🤣
I think you forgot Damian Wayne
defeated Nightwing.
I'm starting to like the tradition of nightwing getting beat up.
it reminds me of classic south Park
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If TH-cam wasn’t such a coward and shown dislikes, you’d have a ton buddy.
0:37 atleast he should near equal to Batman
he is his eldest son
what the heck