The larger pinion is for speed on flat surface. Maybe if you had a 18 or even a 17 tooth it would have the torque for the backflip in the sand. Thank you for the vid. Beautiful place to play.
This is some of the best sand dunes bashing I have ever seen,I would love to have a setting like you have there,natural ramps,pavement and sand forever,great comparo and I agree on your analysis,the Xmaxx seems tame in comparison to the Kraton 8s,I own both and the Xmaxx is getting sold now.
Sorry not Rc related but seeing your avatar, I MISS MY 87 SUBURBAN!!! The med blue with the silver down the side. Champagne lights, woodgrain console, 6 wooden swivel lights and a wood roll desktop cooler between the captain's chairs. Sorry had to share that.
You seem to be running almost the same gearing, ESC and motor as I have in my Kraton EXB 8S. But my max5 keeps rebooting by itself whenever I hit full throttle from a standstill. Does your max5 do that as well? I have 30/39 gearing as well. Hobbywing told me that it is because the batteries cannot handle the amp draw. But, I see other people running higher gearing with a max5, with no problem.
to me i had no problem in rebooting and yes MAX5 30/39 Gearing make sure you are using more than 6000MAHS batteries at 100c discharge rate also set the punch level to 1 in the esc with this gearing
@@UAERCADDICTS That may have been the problem. I used cheaper rated Lipos. They are rated 60C. But, I did buy more powerful batteries, rated at 9000mAh 130C. I will try those. And my punch level is at it's highest. I will have to lower it. Thank you for the advice.
Also make sure you calibrate the transmitter and receiver. ESCs can be known to cut out if the throttle goes past the "throttle endpoint". Just a suggestion as it could be the issue, maybe not. Still won't hurt to eliminate that possibility.
@@UAERCADDICTS No extra parts laying around just yet. I'm new to rc. I have A redcat Everest crawler, Redcat Blackout and Arrma Senton with Monster tires. The Kraton is talking to me much louder that the XMaxx but the Xmaxx seems to be more durable. I think I want handling and speed most at the moment. This video helped push me more towards the Kraton.
Hello my friend very cool videos I would love to come play where you are looks like a lot of fun myself I'm running traxxas Maxx then I bought the Mojave and then the notorious 6s armor certainly makes an amazing trucks keep up the cool videos God bless As-Salaam-Alaikum
What a great video, your a funny guy, Bit by snake 🤣 no fall over 🤣 I am now ordering a Kraton thanks to you my friend lol, I have also subscribed to you channel too ! Stay Safe Mate 👌🏼🤜🏼🤛🏻👍🏻
I lol'd when he almost hit the only pole in the desert. And on a second thought, I wonder who's responsible for cleaning the sand drifts on the highway?
@@UAERCADDICTS I can't remember you doing the test on the tarmac road with the x-maxx (it would have been quick). On the sand the x-maxx comes alive with paddle tyres. Was the punch also set to the maximum on the esc? As you said the x-maxx is lighter so it can take max punch. I hear the gearing best suited for mid air backflips is 20/46 according to Woodster & sons RC (I use 18/46) Good video, I enjoyed watching. I also just subscribed. 😊
I should have read the description first. I didn't realise you were running the (6s x-maxx) 1650kv motor (the 8s is 1275) If with the 18/54 you only get 30mph on 8s (on a hard smooth surface using the 1650kv motor) then I think something is wrong. 30mph was 15/54 gearing on 6s with the 1650kv motor for the original 6s x-maxx out the box.
Xmaxx punch at 5 the max on the hobby wing , the stock motor and stock motor mount in this vid i fitted 24/48 the which is the max you can do in the xmaxx but compared to the kraton dude xmaxx didn’t make me feel better 🤪
More kv more rpm, more rpm more high speed , i know something is wrong with the xmaxx , alloy motor mount and different motor like 1100 kv will make it much better i feel its lack some power
I once thought the 1/7 scale UDR was big enough. Then I got into 1/6 scale, then eventually 1/5. The thing I've noticed is that the larger scales on average are much better quality and far more durable than the average smaller scale RCs.
X-Maxx 6S vs Kraton 8S, Stock motor on X-Maxx, (punch at 5 on the MAX5 of x-maxx (might be better at 10?)), Battery C-Rating the same for both cars? (25C or 100C), Gearing is weird for me because I own the X-Maxx 8S, and you didn't make test on the X-Maxx on the road like the Kraton. Overall, I agree that in your video the Kraton destroy the X-Maxx in terms of power and stability etc, but man... You cannot compare 6S older model to a newer 8S. Also, might not apply to you, but landing a Jump on concrete or anything harder than sand dunes will f**** your Kraton chassis in 2-3 packs. You need aftermarket expensive chassis that will hold the load on the longterm + stronger shocks pins (if they exist). Plastic bend and then comeback like it was, aluminum don't... Keep it up.
Great comparison and love your videos and running area that is lucky to have that amazing sand. I have no sand here to run. Would like to try that. I have an Xmaxx but I’m thinking to sell. And get me an EXB 8S Kraton as it seems to suit me more. A bit bigger, faster it seems and choose my setup. Also thanks for your setups, gearing information I’d like to do a similar setup! 👋🇨🇦
Dude.........You have taken the time to put a big donk in the Kraton, do yourself a favor and put an 800kv 200A motor in the XMAXX and also change the tyres to the traxxas backflips. It will completely change the vehicle for you. I have 3 Kratons and Two XMAXX's so I am being subjective. All the best.
@@UAERCADDICTS Oh of course... must not use the original mounting system... but it's quite simple to do. You already have the Max 5 esc... which is overkill for the stock motor.
Maybe you Need New Tires for the Xmaxx. The Original Tires has Not enought grip in Sand. Try the Proline badland or the paddle Tires. Also good are the Louise x cyclone. Then you have much more Fun at your Spot… Greeting from germany
الماكس تمشي ٥٠ مايل مب ٤٠ كثل ماقلت! وموضوع الفلب يعتمد على سواقتك. اذا متعود على نوع ثاني واول مره تستخدم الماكس بيختلف معك ، ومايصير ابدا تقارن بين شي معدل وشي ستوك ! مقارنتك سيئه للاسف
@@keithjones2963 you are right because the xmaxx have torque more than rpm but if you want speed you need rpm and i love both but in the area where i live and bash kraton FTW
The XMaxx is such a beast … you want to backflip the XMaxx? Install a bigger motor. The bigger the better 🤣 Looking forward to get one to play with the MAXX.
i do agree traxxas was an amazing rc hobby comp until ARRMA laws suit , then ARRMA all the way bro if Arrma built a 6s car its capable of 8s but traxxas instead of 6s its capable of 4s the drivetrain materials compound arrma win for me dont just bash BLAST :D
@@UAERCADDICTS really !? Okay then I guess I’ll get the EXB , I had a talion before but I sold it , it was the first version released , when they first came out and I loved it brother
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Kraton- "to the moon guys" 😂
-after much thought Xmaxx is not for me.. "I need speed guys😐"
the x maxx is 50mph not 40
On road maybe
@@UAERCADDICTS يمكن
Depending on the gearing.
You must have a22 tooth an a 54 tooth gear ⚙️ s in the xmaxxx try 50 an 21 tooth gears in it !
The larger pinion is for speed on flat surface. Maybe if you had a 18 or even a 17 tooth it would have the torque for the backflip in the sand. Thank you for the vid. Beautiful place to play.
Man that setting is beautiful wish I had an area as fun
Great to hear you having so much fun. Lovin RC's. Thanks for sharing. Liked and subscribed
To do a back flip you need to go up to the jump at about half throttle and then go Full throttle when in the air
a very good tip will try it out
This is some of the best sand dunes bashing I have ever seen,I would love to have a setting like you have there,natural ramps,pavement and sand forever,great comparo and I agree on your analysis,the Xmaxx seems tame in comparison to the Kraton 8s,I own both and the Xmaxx is getting sold now.
thanks mate appreciate your view as well
How much lol ??
@@cabrera21fc Sold my new in box(green body)8s for $825.00,this was my 4th Xmaxx 8s that I owned.
Dude I did subscribe and I absolutely love your video! I want to see more.
Thanks 😃
I wish I was into RC when I was stationed in the middle east. What a beautiful part of the world. 💞💞💞
Sorry not Rc related but seeing your avatar, I MISS MY 87 SUBURBAN!!! The med blue with the silver down the side. Champagne lights, woodgrain console, 6 wooden swivel lights and a wood roll desktop cooler between the captain's chairs. Sorry had to share that.
Nice comparison, good test👍💪
Thanks
Nice run! Will you try a motor upgrade on the xmaxx for more speed?
Yes sure waiting for the weather to cool down
You seem to be running almost the same gearing, ESC and motor as I have in my Kraton EXB 8S. But my max5 keeps rebooting by itself whenever I hit full throttle from a standstill. Does your max5 do that as well? I have 30/39 gearing as well. Hobbywing told me that it is because the batteries cannot handle the amp draw. But, I see other people running higher gearing with a max5, with no problem.
to me i had no problem in rebooting and yes MAX5 30/39 Gearing make sure you are using more than 6000MAHS batteries at 100c discharge rate also set the punch level to 1 in the esc with this gearing
@@UAERCADDICTS That may have been the problem. I used cheaper rated Lipos. They are rated 60C. But, I did buy more powerful batteries, rated at 9000mAh 130C. I will try those. And my punch level is at it's highest. I will have to lower it. Thank you for the advice.
@@lexsteel12 yes my dear the punch must be lowest not highest
Also make sure you calibrate the transmitter and receiver. ESCs can be known to cut out if the throttle goes past the "throttle endpoint". Just a suggestion as it could be the issue, maybe not. Still won't hurt to eliminate that possibility.
The best combination Xmaxx and kraton 8s😍🤩
How do you keep sand out of all hubs?
Just compressed air after every run
I've watched tons of these vs videos and still don't know which to buy between these 2. Let's try this one..
What you gonna do with it bash it hard front back flips or just send it does the speed matter to you? Do you have good electronics laying around?
@@UAERCADDICTS No extra parts laying around just yet. I'm new to rc. I have A redcat Everest crawler, Redcat Blackout and Arrma Senton with Monster tires. The Kraton is talking to me much louder that the XMaxx but the Xmaxx seems to be more durable. I think I want handling and speed most at the moment. This video helped push me more towards the Kraton.
@@UAERCADDICTS I want to get a huge tp motor and do 12s possibly
@@aaronlarsen8412 12s will be too much lol
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Nice bashing Sesh, you should try running paddle tires out there.
Thanks i will
Respect from USA
I ❤ the "KRATON"!!!
I just bought the 1/8 scale Kraton exb roller today, and now wanting to get the 5TH scale one!!!
do you run your rigs dry? as in none or very little grease or lube? I imagine the sand can damage moving parts?
Factory setup is always good and for sure they are not dry
Hello my friend very cool videos I would love to come play where you are looks like a lot of fun myself I'm running traxxas Maxx then I bought the Mojave and then the notorious 6s armor certainly makes an amazing trucks keep up the cool videos God bless As-Salaam-Alaikum
Look at all that land to play in!! Great video!
Still got that motor in? Any issues with your max5 in these temps? Did you change gearing? Cheers
MOTOR Still in and yeah mean because its a beast Max 5 holding up well also :)
@@UAERCADDICTS awesome thanks!
@@bashaz8559 most welcome
@@UAERCADDICTS so kraton has different motor and x maxx has stock motor
@@tktk-om8cg The Kraton is a roller, doesn't come with a motor, ESC, or servo.
Great reviews and video footage. You have so much fun there! Wish I could join you. Love your videos. Keep them coming.🤘😎👍
Thanks mate
What a great video, your a funny guy, Bit by snake 🤣 no fall over 🤣 I am now ordering a Kraton thanks to you my friend lol, I have also subscribed to you channel too !
Stay Safe Mate 👌🏼🤜🏼🤛🏻👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Great video man, the kraton rules
I agree with you 👌🏽 I have both car and the kraton is more fun 🤩
i agree :)
I lol'd when he almost hit the only pole in the desert. And on a second thought, I wonder who's responsible for cleaning the sand drifts on the highway?
Lol did you see that , this area is abandoned and when we see the sand drift you know what to do :) send it
And you deserve a thump up because you watched my content 😅
When is the Arrma 4s line dropping? 😎
Soon
I have stock motor xmaxx 18t pinion have back flip all day change the spur gear 50t
In this vid i was running 48 spur
@@UAERCADDICTS I can't remember you doing the test on the tarmac road with the x-maxx (it would have been quick). On the sand the x-maxx comes alive with paddle tyres.
Was the punch also set to the maximum on the esc? As you said the x-maxx is lighter so it can take max punch.
I hear the gearing best suited for mid air backflips is 20/46 according to Woodster & sons RC (I use 18/46)
Good video, I enjoyed watching.
I also just subscribed. 😊
I should have read the description first.
I didn't realise you were running the (6s x-maxx) 1650kv motor (the 8s is 1275)
If with the 18/54 you only get 30mph on 8s (on a hard smooth surface using the 1650kv motor) then I think something is wrong.
30mph was 15/54 gearing on 6s with the 1650kv motor for the original 6s x-maxx out the box.
Xmaxx punch at 5 the max on the hobby wing , the stock motor and stock motor mount in this vid i fitted 24/48 the which is the max you can do in the xmaxx but compared to the kraton dude xmaxx didn’t make me feel better 🤪
More kv more rpm, more rpm more high speed , i know something is wrong with the xmaxx , alloy motor mount and different motor like 1100 kv will make it much better i feel its lack some power
Need a smaller pinion for more low end torque and quicker acceleration to do backflips
How does the the bearings do with that kind of sand? For me I like the Maxx, the Xmaxx is just too big for me.
They still fine but i do cleaning them every 3 runs using compressed air
I once thought the 1/7 scale UDR was big enough. Then I got into 1/6 scale, then eventually 1/5. The thing I've noticed is that the larger scales on average are much better quality and far more durable than the average smaller scale RCs.
Awesome video. Love your cars. Both are Monsters!! The Snake joke 😂 The place is perfect for these cars, looks like so much fun 🤩
thank you my dear glad you like it
X-Maxx 6S vs Kraton 8S, Stock motor on X-Maxx, (punch at 5 on the MAX5 of x-maxx (might be better at 10?)), Battery C-Rating the same for both cars? (25C or 100C), Gearing is weird for me because I own the X-Maxx 8S, and you didn't make test on the X-Maxx on the road like the Kraton. Overall, I agree that in your video the Kraton destroy the X-Maxx in terms of power and stability etc, but man... You cannot compare 6S older model to a newer 8S. Also, might not apply to you, but landing a Jump on concrete or anything harder than sand dunes will f**** your Kraton chassis in 2-3 packs. You need aftermarket expensive chassis that will hold the load on the longterm + stronger shocks pins (if they exist). Plastic bend and then comeback like it was, aluminum don't... Keep it up.
This is an 8s xmaxx and both ran exact same 100c 4s x 2 = 8s graphene HRB LIPOS
Yeah but the Kraton has an upgraded motor and the xmaxx dosent. It would be fair comparison if both were stock
$30 piece of aluminum and a drillbit will make a nice center brace to stop the chassis from bending
Where did you buy the cooling system from ?
game changer fan DIY by my friend Hauwain
I prefer the kraton too but you probably could flip the xmaxx if you had a ramp with a good enough angle on it
Great comparison and love your videos and running area that is lucky to have that amazing sand. I have no sand here to run. Would like to try that. I have an Xmaxx but I’m thinking to sell. And get me an EXB 8S Kraton as it seems to suit me more. A bit bigger, faster it seems and choose my setup. Also thanks for your setups, gearing information I’d like to do a similar setup! 👋🇨🇦
most welcome bro
Look into the WFO wide arm kit for the x maxx.
Dude.........You have taken the time to put a big donk in the Kraton, do yourself a favor and put an 800kv 200A motor in the XMAXX and also change the tyres to the traxxas backflips. It will completely change the vehicle for you.
I have 3 Kratons and Two XMAXX's so I am being subjective.
All the best.
Thank you alot thats the plan
Hobbywing 800kv is 200A?
which one do you like most if you could ounly get one?
Kraton 🥳
Arrma number 1
Deux monstres 😍, le kraton 8s mon prochain car ds une semaine j'ai le kraton 6s 💪👌🕺
Sand dunes are the ultimate playground for RCs. Less chance of damage too.
Were can i buy the kraton in uae ?
Hobbysportz
ماشاءالله عزم الكريتون جبار على حجمها ، كم قيورها الله يحفظك
حياك ياخوي محمد قيورها ٣٠ بينيون و٣٩ سبار
Drop an 1100kv in that xmaxx! Perfect combo.
sure need to drop different motor mount first because the plastic stock motor mount will not let you fit any other motor than traxxas :)
@@UAERCADDICTS Oh of course... must not use the original mounting system... but it's quite simple to do. You already have the Max 5 esc... which is overkill for the stock motor.
That kraton exb with the Leopard Motor Is 💥👏👏👍
It is
What about bending metal and the price for parts being more on arrma isn’t traxxas better in that regard plus pure fun.
Will you please send me one!🙏
cool mam the kraton is a beast I have a 6s exb with mmx8s and 1717 total beast rig !☺
MAN..GREATINGS FROM MEXICO..I HAVE BOTH ..THE ONLY THING I DONT HAVE IS A DESERT..😅😅😅😅😅
👌👌😬
nice video and set ups!! yea need bigger dunes to make the xmaxx backflip ;)
Maybe you Need New Tires for the Xmaxx. The Original Tires has Not enought grip in Sand.
Try the Proline badland or the paddle Tires. Also good are the Louise x cyclone.
Then you have much more Fun at your Spot…
Greeting from germany
الماكس تمشي ٥٠ مايل مب ٤٠ كثل ماقلت! وموضوع الفلب يعتمد على سواقتك. اذا متعود على نوع ثاني واول مره تستخدم الماكس بيختلف معك ، ومايصير ابدا تقارن بين شي معدل وشي ستوك ! مقارنتك سيئه للاسف
Xmaxx
الاكسماكس معدل هوبي وينغ ماكس 5 + جيور + بالمنيوم كور للقير
I love it! Will you send me a Xmas please
Its 4000dhs😬
🙃
Love the exb
Me 2
this is just beautiful..
1650kv hobbywing motor 20 tooth pinion 50tooth spur will have that Xmaxx doing triple standing backflips lol
Kraton power💪🏻🤙🏻
Plenty of power 👌👍
Nice video! Great place to run! That xmaxx looks so clumsy and powerless compared to the kraton 8s. Sell the xmaxx and buy goodies for the kraton🤣
The stock kreaton vs stock xmaxx is a way better buy no worries of a chassis getting bent an the two motors are much different
Exactly
You need a better tires.
Proline Paddle tires is a lot better on your area Sir.
Oh dude, you made my butt pucker at the 4:17 mark!!! 😎
Hi buddy. You need 46t spur gear and 26t pinion that will get it to do a back flip 👍👍🤣
I like my X Maxx it's a blast, but I am working on get'n that Kraton EXG
ITS A BEAST !
I love it 👍👍👍👍
Smaller pinion... Dont use large pinion when u use for backflip... Smaller pinion is the best..
the arma kraton 8s is 55 mph
mine is 80 mph :D
兩台都非常棒
Nothing's better than the Talion
Get some proline trenchers and it will backflip stock
“Come to your daddy” lmao love it!!!
Your pinion is too big for that. You have a speed pinion in. Run it stock for bashing or run 50/20 and thank me later 😁😎
try talion
The Kraton is faster because you have a bigger aftermarket motor in it and the Xmaxx has stock motor duh
Need to fine a bigger sand ramp 👍💯🇺🇸!
👍👍👍
Check this out video Kevin Talbot standing backflips Traxxas x Maxx 👍
Send it into the trees lmao 👍🇺🇸💯
@@keithjones2963 you are right because the xmaxx have torque more than rpm but if you want speed you need rpm and i love both but in the area where i live and bash kraton FTW
@@UAERCADDICTS yep I 👀 you over there wish I had that in my backyard in Florida lmao 👍🇺🇸💯 and the kraton are nice !
I could do a backflip off that jump with my Xmaxx..come on
Ok bring it on
Unless you changed the motor mount to fit bigger pinion gear
@@UAERCADDICTS No disrespect to your profound knowledge and rc collection but my Xmaxx will do standing backflips with no wheelie bar..torque monster
@@BigBRC thanks and awesome i will check it out on your channel 👍
Your gears on the xmaxx aren't great they are for speed
So shall i put back the 18/54? 30mph
On the sand it's better you got torque otherwise your motor will get warm. So smaller gears will help
But nice comparison but for the overall the kraton is better. Hard bashing xmaxx win for durability. I got the kraton and I loved
The XMaxx is such a beast … you want to backflip the XMaxx? Install a bigger motor. The bigger the better 🤣 Looking forward to get one to play with the MAXX.
Traxxas was too comfortable being at the top , and now all these other companies are coming for them , for traxxas it’s too little too late
i do agree traxxas was an amazing rc hobby comp until ARRMA laws suit , then ARRMA all the way bro if Arrma built a 6s car its capable of 8s but traxxas instead of 6s its capable of 4s the drivetrain materials compound arrma win for me dont just bash BLAST :D
@@UAERCADDICTS exactly haha, love arrma , do you recommend the EXB talion or the normal talion
Exb all the way
@@UAERCADDICTS really !? Okay then I guess I’ll get the EXB , I had a talion before but I sold it , it was the first version released , when they first came out and I loved it brother
Less speed up to the jump on the xmaxx, it would be doing backflips. Driver error all day long.
Oh but same driver was driving the kraton as well
@@UAERCADDICTS never said it wasnt the same driver, get better with your xmaxx lol.
Right on well wait a bit more for the weather to get cooler and i will hit the dune back again
first how are u
Fine thank you
@@UAERCADDICTS could u recommend a good car for like 600 dhs which could go on desert
@@gamingwithsid9531 arrma senton 3s
@@UAERCADDICTS thank u so much
@@UAERCADDICTS i will check and let u know
change d ramp mate ur xmaxx gonna flip tho
Yeah you are right but the point was running both on this particular ramp and which can do backflip 😅
Xmaxx is faster than that cmon
:)
@@UAERCADDICTS Definitely something wrong with this X-Maxx. Was the temperature sensor plugged into the receiver?
Yes please the sensor attached to the receiver why do this matter if my motor doesn’t overheat ?
@@UAERCADDICTS In the V/T port? When using the Traxxas radio, you will lose power if the temp sensor is unplugged or in the wrong port.
@@TheKjelmo i will check it out
Arma is king
Xmaxx!
Exit 55 desert :)
Come! come to your daddy 😂😂😂
Kraton
Snake bite😅☺😂🤣😂👍👍👍👍✌
🤣🤣
Смешной чувак🤣🤣🤣
bv
come to your daddy lol