I like my c400 GT triple black. No issues in 1400 miles. Thanks for the review. Nothing is perfect but comes down to what you like and what you can live with every day. The scooter does get it done solo or two up.
I'm growing to enjoy the scooter much more now the sqeeking and rattling of the bodywork has pretty much stopped. The suspension, although being very firm lends to great handling so it is forgiven on that score. Maybe I was a little too critical. I'm glad you're enjoying yours and thanks for watching.
Hey Gary, good to hear the old Norn Iron accent😊 Portadown looks more tropical than up here on the North Coast! Looking at 6 months old BMW 400 GT or pre reg Suzi Burgman as recent knee op & can’t see me ever using my 2019 Honda Super Cub again 🥲 Mind you it has only 124 miles on it 🤩. You seemed to prefer the Bmer due to the clutch engaged at low speed still. Decisions Decisions! Keep ‘er between the hedges big lad 😎
I definitely found the Burgman a challenge as I ride a scooter all year round, since the drive dropped off at approx 18mph. It meant you were coasting around wet corners. Not ideal. The BM has rock hard front suspension which was really uncomfortable around town on our patchwork roads. Much better out of town on A & B roads. The bodywork rattles and creaks were also really annoying. On the upside the BM was the best handling scooter I ever owned. I since traded the BM for a Honda SH350i which I still have and love. It is admittedly not as stylish as both the BM & Burgman but it just works. No rattles or creaks and so much more compliant front forks. It may be a consideration for you as it has a flat platform for getting on and off with your bad knee. Good luck in your purchase and thanks so much for watching my vid.
Had my 2019 GTSE for a month now and am loving it. After a motorcycle the suspension is rather basic but it does handle really well. My first ever scooter but I don't think it will be my last - and I've been riding 56 years! Next week I am doing a 600 mile tour in three days - be interesting to see how I feel after that. The seat is super comfy so hopefully my bum will survive the experience!
That is one long biking career. You will be fine on the BMW on a long run like that. It is so much better on the open road. The suspension is just too hard for local road at lower speed. On A roads it is a delight. My riding is mostly around town. It sounds that for what you plan to do you will love it. Enjoy your trip and good luck with your scooter. Thanks for watching.
@@GaryGSF Every reviewer says that about the BMW Scoot. Wonder how it compares with the Yamaha XMax. I wish I could own both. The BMW is a nice look Scoot.
@@johnmartin7158 A friend of mine has an XMax and loves it. I haven't ridden it but it does look nice. So many nice motorcycles out there and so little money. 😁
hi Gary, thank you for your honest review, a week ago i got my brand triple black edition 2024 model. Today it has around 320 km in the clock, i am experiencing : - brake growling ( litteraly growling like being worn ) front calipers when i brake harder - squeeking rear brake pads - front suspension strange sound ( i wish i could send you the videoclip of that sound cause i have recorded it) - mild squeeking from the clutch when driving around town in low revs. According to your review a lot of plastic sounds and squeeks will go away...did tou experience similar situations with your c400gt? Now, some positive comments regarding this scooter: - I have been driving scooters all my life and this is what are the positive things: - there is no scooter with this level of tech currently on the market - handling is amazing - the most comfortable scooter currently on the market -the best braking distance by far - the fastest scooter up to 400cc by far.
The brakes can be noisy on the scooter. I did take the pads out and used a rubber based grease (designed for brakes) to the calliper pistons and the back of the pads and that cured the brake noise. Of course being careful not to get any on the brake linings. I didn't have any sound from the suspension so that is a new one on me. There can be a mild squeak from the belts from time to time. I have found this in any big capacity scooter I have owned. Even my Honda SH350i does it from time to time. The bodywork on my BM squeaked like hell. Was less when ridden in the wet. It did however come and go but drove me mad, coupled with the rock hard front forks. There is no arguing about how well specced the scooter is. It has all the bells and whistles. It was also the best handling scooter I have ever owned. It did handle almost like a motorbike. I'm sure the hard front suspension had a lot to do with that. On open A roads it was at home but in bumpy small town roads it was very firm. Also as you say, the brakes are the best I have ever had on a scooter. It is fast too. Good luck with your scooter and have many safe and happy miles on it. Thanks so much for watching my video and taking the time to comment.
Gary, thank you for your response. I would kindly ask you if you could explain me in detail about the grease...did tou grease the brake pad where the surface touches the disk? Some people say it should be greased in both ends of the brake pad so it can be a little bit curved at the edges of the brake pad. I am curious if there is any warranty void if i swap OEM brake pads with after market ones like brembo or something similar...cause honestly, the whole squeeking sound and growling sound from the front is driving me mad...
@@armend020788 I definitely would not touch the contact surface with grease. Strictly speaking copper grease should be applied to the back of the pad rather than the red rubber stuff I used. I was using it on the brake pistons to salt proof them for the winter and continued to the pads. It worked ok. I do that and fit fork gaiters to my scooter prior to winter as I use it all year. I would think the warranty would be voided if non OEM stuff was used. I hope you get rid of the noises as they can be infuriating.
It does vibrate a little more that the Honda SH350i scooter I have now, but when I owned this one it was not an issue. It is not too bad at all. Only issue really was the rock had front suspension but that led to great handling. Thanks for watching.
How is different to the c400 X SE? Thanks. Should I pay extra for GT? Also would you get this or the ADV350? Ive narrowed down to these two mid sized maxies
The only real pls for the GT over the X is a bit more weather protection. Personally I would sway towards the Honda as I think they have better build quality. I have since traded the BMW for a Honda SH350i which is more basic but smoother and better built. Thanks for watching.
I would agree. Honda build quality is better, I chopped my BMW C650GT (fast, comfy, good tech bits but heavy and some build issues) for a Forza 300 which I kept for 4 years and then bought an ADV350 2 years ago (ADV has a smaller, manually adjusted screen but handling road presence and looks are better). One other BMW issue (and I am not anti BMW - I admire their inventiveness and perseverance trying to compete in a global mkt against the big established scooter masters) is servicing costs. The GT was going to cost a lot to service as the mileage grew so that plus the weight convinced me it was not a ‘keeper’. But a couple of years ago, BMW Mottorad’s boss said in their view scooters were the two wheeled future and I would not be without one for road use.
Hi Gary just got a brand new c400x (traded in my r1200gs) were the hand guards easy enough too install & do you need too remove mirrors too do so thanks Gavin
The handguards were an easy enough job to do. You do need to take the mirrors off. My handguards were from China. 100% copy of the BMW originals. Only thing is that one of the fasteners surface rusted. Cost less than £10 though. Enjoy your new bike. Thanks for watching.
I’d like to use this or something like this through DoorDash deliveries do you think I should be a great option? I sold my Harley Davidson 2008 sportster 1200 for four grand so putting his toward something like this I think would be a great option, save me more money, the more pleasurable to drive around.
I use my scooter in around town all the time and this BMW is a little cumbersome for that sort of use, which is probably where you will be using the scooter most . It is better on A roads and motorways. I changed it for a Honda SH350i which suits my needs much better. It is so much lighter and narrower for the town traffic. Also the flat platform for your feet on the Honda is much better for jumping on and off. There are many options out there, along with the Honda, that would probably suit your needs better. Good luck with your choice. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@GaryGSF thank you friend I really appreciate it. It means a lot when people reply makes you feel good inside, so thank you again and I’ll check out the Honda SH 350 I am excited.
Hi Gary pick mine up tomorrow from BMW always have big bikes and also owned many scooters so thought I would bite the bullet a get a new scooter. Cant wait for my first road trip Sunday to Thruxton BSB
Congrats on the new scooter. I'm loving mine now. I have got used to the front suspension which is v firm and love the way it handles. Probably a lot to do with the firm front end. Enjoy. Thanks for watching.
Hi Gary. I've only 250 miles done now and love it. I think it's great around town, haven't had a longer spin much yet, will wait until after 600 mile service. I've added the Wunderlich screen and hand guards and a Shad 58X adjustable box. Have ordered and will fit the Wunderlich universal device carrier which will take my wireless charging Quadlock phone mount above the instrument panel. My 4 mile commute to work even in the rain's enjoyable! Haven't spied you yet around town. After Gutsy Ninja's comments below it freaked me out to have a good check. All dry underneath so far. I've had the Forza 300 (2020) which was a great scooter but so far prefer the C400GT.
Sounds like you have all the toys for yours. I'm liking mine too. It handles better than any other scooter I've had and that's been quite a few. The squeaks and rattles have pretty much gone now which would have been my biggest annoyance. I've got used to the slightly firm front end and truth be told it is a price worth paying for the great feel of the road. Gutsy Ninjas post concerned me too. Don't worry, if I get any bother it will be on TH-cam. I hope to catch up soon. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
How do you feel with the wunderlich screen? Better than the standard? How about air on the top ofthe helmet? Is there turbulance, pushing your back forward?
Hi. Yes the Wunderlich screen is wider and taller, pushing the air around me. (I’m 5’9”). Much better than stock screen. No turbulence on helmet at all, just a little push forwards on the back at speeds over 70mph but not a problem. Would highly recommend with the Wunderlich hand guards.
Thanks for the review, Gary. The BMW and the Suzuki Burgman are on my short list. In your video you say that the BMW is by far better than the Burgman. For how many miles did you ride the Suzuki and in what areas does the BMW excel?
The BMW handles better and even rides like a motorbike. The big thing about the Suzuki is that the auto clutch disengages at around 17-18 mph. In wet weather this means that you are coasting around junctions with no drive to the wheels. Very dangerous. The BMW drops at approx 10-12 mph, and constant drive is provided. I had the Suzuki 2 years and approx 8000 miles. I hope this helps.
Does anyone know if you can fit Givi panniers on these? (I already have access to the panniers which are my son's - he kept them after selling his bike.) Looking to get back on 2 wheels after decades away and would want to use it for moderate touring as well as local stuff and days/weekends out. I've been considering the Burgman 400 but these seem to have better equipment.
I have never seen a pannier set for this scooter. I did however put a topbox case on this scooter. You can see it in one of my other videos. You can get them up to 52 litre size and are very useful. I previously owned a Burgman 400 and I think this is a much better riding scooter. The Burgman had very poor road manners where this one handles almost like a motorcycle.
Nice review Gary, I’m looking to get one the same spec as yours as a second bike, have you had a pillion on it and if so what was it like for them? Cheers
@@SouthWest-jj8yu You'll have no worries at all as I clock in at over 20st on my own. I'm settling into mine but the front suspension is v firm. On the flip side, it is the best handling scooter I have ever ridden, and I have had many.
I looked at couple of these in Australia I noticed the outside of the exhaust had turned a bit brown where the steel shroud was , Is that something to be concerned about?
It's nothing to worry about. It is stainless steel and will not rot. From the first start up it will turn yellowy brown colour due to the heat. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Does removing the front glass visor ( front glass windshield) has any negative effect on ride quality? I don't mind wind on me, its just the scooter might look way much better without it. ( I am thinking of buying it but my test drive unit had visor attached on it)
You can buy a 5 year / 30,000 miles all inclusive service plan for £710 from BMW which is superb value for money. The only extras are consumables such as tyres and brake pads.🙄
update: 2 months into owning the 2022 it’s already in the shop for repairs… a warranty is meaningless when parts and quality are nonexistent. i’m hopeful that yours “if you own one” hasn’t started leaking oil. look underneath the CVT and see if there’s oil collecting, if so, there’s a build / quality issue. these are very very expensive and too have it usable for only a few weeks seems pretty poor. BMW BMW has seriously let me personally down and i currently regret the bike. the hondas and yamahas never presented issues like this. today while still in the shop waiting for parts i’m going to return the bike for what i’m used…. something that is japanese, it may not have the BMW badge, but what does that mean when it’s a 10,000 paper weight.
That sounds awful. I hope they get it sorted for you. So far so good for mine, but I did question the quality with the squeaking bodywork. I've had Japanese and even a Taiwanese scooter that did not do that. The Kymco was much better than expected while the Japanese always do things right. I hope you get everything sorted and I hope mine does not befall the same fate. Thanks for watching and for your kind input.
Nice review; just waiting for mine, an ex demonstrator. A bit apprehensive going from foot change and clutch - to just sit back and hang on. But age dictates. I like the hand guards. Looking at the Wunderlich hand guards it seems you need to buy their screen for clearance. Have you got a link where you sourced your hand guards?
You'll love the CVT transmission. You'll adapt in seconds. The handguards were sourced in China via Aliexpress. If I recall correctly they were around £14 inc postage and VAT delivered to UK. Good luck with the scooter and enjoy.
@@GaryGSF very good. I’ve been a motorcycle rider for almost 20 years now but never owned a scooter. I test rode the smaller Suzuki burg man a few years back when I first considered a scooter but felt like it was a little unsteady. Might be time for me to test ride another.
Why doesn't BMW proudly announce that motor and every part is made in China ???????? Why do they try to never want to talk about it being made entirely in China 🇨🇳??????? Since they are made much much cheaper like they say, then why don't they discount the overall price ??????? Shareholders love the profits HOWEVER buyers are getting SHAFTED !!!! Just my thoughts on the greed of BMW !!!!
@@GaryGSF Yeah I rode the BMW it was nice, a little rough running, but the thing is made in CHINA! I will buy one of the last Jap made scooters, Yammaha NMAX 560.
I totally agree. Set up the audio when stopped and did not compensate for the road noise etc when on the move. Everyday is a school day. Thanks for watching.
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I like my c400 GT triple black. No issues in 1400 miles. Thanks for the review. Nothing is perfect but comes down to what you like and what you can live with every day. The scooter does get it done solo or two up.
I'm growing to enjoy the scooter much more now the sqeeking and rattling of the bodywork has pretty much stopped. The suspension, although being very firm lends to great handling so it is forgiven on that score. Maybe I was a little too critical. I'm glad you're enjoying yours and thanks for watching.
Hey Gary, good to hear the old Norn Iron accent😊 Portadown looks more tropical than up here on the North Coast! Looking at 6 months old BMW 400 GT or pre reg Suzi Burgman as recent knee op & can’t see me ever using my 2019 Honda Super Cub again 🥲 Mind you it has only 124 miles on it 🤩. You seemed to prefer the Bmer due to the clutch engaged at low speed still. Decisions Decisions! Keep ‘er between the hedges big lad 😎
I definitely found the Burgman a challenge as I ride a scooter all year round, since the drive dropped off at approx 18mph. It meant you were coasting around wet corners. Not ideal. The BM has rock hard front suspension which was really uncomfortable around town on our patchwork roads. Much better out of town on A & B roads. The bodywork rattles and creaks were also really annoying. On the upside the BM was the best handling scooter I ever owned. I since traded the BM for a Honda SH350i which I still have and love. It is admittedly not as stylish as both the BM & Burgman but it just works. No rattles or creaks and so much more compliant front forks. It may be a consideration for you as it has a flat platform for getting on and off with your bad knee. Good luck in your purchase and thanks so much for watching my vid.
Had my 2019 GTSE for a month now and am loving it. After a motorcycle the suspension is rather basic but it does handle really well. My first ever scooter but I don't think it will be my last - and I've been riding 56 years! Next week I am doing a 600 mile tour in three days - be interesting to see how I feel after that. The seat is super comfy so hopefully my bum will survive the experience!
That is one long biking career. You will be fine on the BMW on a long run like that. It is so much better on the open road. The suspension is just too hard for local road at lower speed. On A roads it is a delight. My riding is mostly around town. It sounds that for what you plan to do you will love it. Enjoy your trip and good luck with your scooter. Thanks for watching.
@@GaryGSF Every reviewer says that about the BMW Scoot. Wonder how it compares with the Yamaha XMax. I wish I could own both. The BMW is a nice look Scoot.
@@johnmartin7158 A friend of mine has an XMax and loves it. I haven't ridden it but it does look nice. So many nice motorcycles out there and so little money. 😁
hi Gary, thank you for your honest review, a week ago i got my brand triple black edition 2024 model. Today it has around 320 km in the clock, i am experiencing :
- brake growling ( litteraly growling like being worn ) front calipers when i brake harder
- squeeking rear brake pads
- front suspension strange sound ( i wish i could send you the videoclip of that sound cause i have recorded it)
- mild squeeking from the clutch when driving around town in low revs.
According to your review a lot of plastic sounds and squeeks will go away...did tou experience similar situations with your c400gt?
Now, some positive comments regarding this scooter:
- I have been driving scooters all my life and this is what are the positive things:
- there is no scooter with this level of tech currently on the market
- handling is amazing
- the most comfortable scooter currently on the market
-the best braking distance by far
- the fastest scooter up to 400cc by far.
The brakes can be noisy on the scooter. I did take the pads out and used a rubber based grease (designed for brakes) to the calliper pistons and the back of the pads and that cured the brake noise. Of course being careful not to get any on the brake linings. I didn't have any sound from the suspension so that is a new one on me. There can be a mild squeak from the belts from time to time. I have found this in any big capacity scooter I have owned. Even my Honda SH350i does it from time to time. The bodywork on my BM squeaked like hell. Was less when ridden in the wet. It did however come and go but drove me mad, coupled with the rock hard front forks.
There is no arguing about how well specced the scooter is. It has all the bells and whistles. It was also the best handling scooter I have ever owned. It did handle almost like a motorbike. I'm sure the hard front suspension had a lot to do with that. On open A roads it was at home but in bumpy small town roads it was very firm. Also as you say, the brakes are the best I have ever had on a scooter. It is fast too.
Good luck with your scooter and have many safe and happy miles on it. Thanks so much for watching my video and taking the time to comment.
Gary, thank you for your response. I would kindly ask you if you could explain me in detail about the grease...did tou grease the brake pad where the surface touches the disk? Some people say it should be greased in both ends of the brake pad so it can be a little bit curved at the edges of the brake pad. I am curious if there is any warranty void if i swap OEM brake pads with after market ones like brembo or something similar...cause honestly, the whole squeeking sound and growling sound from the front is driving me mad...
@@armend020788 I definitely would not touch the contact surface with grease. Strictly speaking copper grease should be applied to the back of the pad rather than the red rubber stuff I used. I was using it on the brake pistons to salt proof them for the winter and continued to the pads. It worked ok. I do that and fit fork gaiters to my scooter prior to winter as I use it all year. I would think the warranty would be voided if non OEM stuff was used. I hope you get rid of the noises as they can be infuriating.
how was the vibration? Do you experience any vibration during the ride?
It does vibrate a little more that the Honda SH350i scooter I have now, but when I owned this one it was not an issue. It is not too bad at all. Only issue really was the rock had front suspension but that led to great handling. Thanks for watching.
Yeah I noticed this on my test ride today, very rough is the way I would describe it.
As long as you are happy with it Gary.
Growing to like it better now. Thanks for watching.
How is different to the c400 X SE? Thanks. Should I pay extra for GT? Also would you get this or the ADV350? Ive narrowed down to these two mid sized maxies
The only real pls for the GT over the X is a bit more weather protection. Personally I would sway towards the Honda as I think they have better build quality. I have since traded the BMW for a Honda SH350i which is more basic but smoother and better built. Thanks for watching.
I would agree. Honda build quality is better, I chopped my BMW C650GT (fast, comfy, good tech bits but heavy and some build issues) for a Forza 300 which I kept for 4 years and then bought an ADV350 2 years ago (ADV has a smaller, manually adjusted screen but handling road presence and looks are better). One other BMW issue (and I am not anti BMW - I admire their inventiveness and perseverance trying to compete in a global mkt against the big established scooter masters) is servicing costs. The GT was going to cost a lot to service as the mileage grew so that plus the weight convinced me it was not a ‘keeper’. But a couple of years ago, BMW Mottorad’s boss said in their view scooters were the two wheeled future and I would not be without one for road use.
Hi Gary just got a brand new c400x (traded in my r1200gs) were the hand guards easy enough too install & do you need too remove mirrors too do so thanks Gavin
The handguards were an easy enough job to do. You do need to take the mirrors off. My handguards were from China. 100% copy of the BMW originals. Only thing is that one of the fasteners surface rusted. Cost less than £10 though. Enjoy your new bike. Thanks for watching.
I’d like to use this or something like this through DoorDash deliveries do you think I should be a great option? I sold my Harley Davidson 2008 sportster 1200 for four grand so putting his toward something like this I think would be a great option, save me more money, the more pleasurable to drive around.
I use my scooter in around town all the time and this BMW is a little cumbersome for that sort of use, which is probably where you will be using the scooter most . It is better on A roads and motorways. I changed it for a Honda SH350i which suits my needs much better. It is so much lighter and narrower for the town traffic. Also the flat platform for your feet on the Honda is much better for jumping on and off. There are many options out there, along with the Honda, that would probably suit your needs better. Good luck with your choice. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@GaryGSF thank you friend I really appreciate it. It means a lot when people reply makes you feel good inside, so thank you again and I’ll check out the Honda SH 350 I am excited.
Hi Gary pick mine up tomorrow from BMW always have big bikes and also owned many scooters so thought I would bite the bullet a get a new scooter. Cant wait for my first road trip Sunday to Thruxton BSB
Congrats on the new scooter. I'm loving mine now. I have got used to the front suspension which is v firm and love the way it handles. Probably a lot to do with the firm front end. Enjoy. Thanks for watching.
@@GaryGSF Hi Gary see what you mean about the firm suspension.Apart from that I love my scoot just have to avoid any pot holes
@@theworldsbonkers You will get used to the firm suspension. It is a small sacrifice to have good handling and feel from the scooter.
Hi Gary. I've only 250 miles done now and love it. I think it's great around town, haven't had a longer spin much yet, will wait until after 600 mile service. I've added the Wunderlich screen and hand guards and a Shad 58X adjustable box. Have ordered and will fit the Wunderlich universal device carrier which will take my wireless charging Quadlock phone mount above the instrument panel. My 4 mile commute to work even in the rain's enjoyable! Haven't spied you yet around town.
After Gutsy Ninja's comments below it freaked me out to have a good check. All dry underneath so far. I've had the Forza 300 (2020) which was a great scooter but so far prefer the C400GT.
Sounds like you have all the toys for yours. I'm liking mine too. It handles better than any other scooter I've had and that's been quite a few. The squeaks and rattles have pretty much gone now which would have been my biggest annoyance. I've got used to the slightly firm front end and truth be told it is a price worth paying for the great feel of the road. Gutsy Ninjas post concerned me too. Don't worry, if I get any bother it will be on TH-cam. I hope to catch up soon. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
How do you feel with the wunderlich screen? Better than the standard? How about air on the top ofthe helmet?
Is there turbulance, pushing your back forward?
Hi. Yes the Wunderlich screen is wider and taller, pushing the air around me. (I’m 5’9”). Much better than stock screen. No turbulence on helmet at all, just a little push forwards on the back at speeds over 70mph but not a problem. Would highly recommend with the Wunderlich hand guards.
@@paulbrown7560 thank you!
Thanks for the review, Gary. The BMW and the Suzuki Burgman are on my short list. In your video you say that the BMW is by far better than the Burgman. For how many miles did you ride the Suzuki and in what areas does the BMW excel?
The BMW handles better and even rides like a motorbike. The big thing about the Suzuki is that the auto clutch disengages at around 17-18 mph. In wet weather this means that you are coasting around junctions with no drive to the wheels. Very dangerous. The BMW drops at approx 10-12 mph, and constant drive is provided. I had the Suzuki 2 years and approx 8000 miles. I hope this helps.
@@GaryGSF Thanks for the prompt reply, Gary. I recall you mentioning that difference in the clutch disengagement in the video.
Does anyone know if you can fit Givi panniers on these? (I already have access to the panniers which are my son's - he kept them after selling his bike.) Looking to get back on 2 wheels after decades away and would want to use it for moderate touring as well as local stuff and days/weekends out. I've been considering the Burgman 400 but these seem to have better equipment.
I have never seen a pannier set for this scooter. I did however put a topbox case on this scooter. You can see it in one of my other videos. You can get them up to 52 litre size and are very useful. I previously owned a Burgman 400 and I think this is a much better riding scooter. The Burgman had very poor road manners where this one handles almost like a motorcycle.
Liked the review thanks, just out of interest what's the total max combined passenger and rider weight permissible for this scooter?
Thanks for that. I think it's carrying capacity is just over 200kg or 440lbs.
Nice review Gary, I’m looking to get one the same spec as yours as a second bike, have you had a pillion on it and if so what was it like for them? Cheers
Thanks for watching. I've not had a pillion as yet, but suffice to say I'm larger than the average bear and it handles me no problems.
@@GaryGSF cheers Gary my first ever scooter in 40+ years of biking, my wife usually rides pillion, together we probably make 19-20 stone👍
@@SouthWest-jj8yu You'll have no worries at all as I clock in at over 20st on my own. I'm settling into mine but the front suspension is v firm. On the flip side, it is the best handling scooter I have ever ridden, and I have had many.
I looked at couple of these in Australia I noticed the outside of the exhaust had turned a bit brown where the steel shroud was , Is that something to be concerned about?
It's nothing to worry about. It is stainless steel and will not rot. From the first start up it will turn yellowy brown colour due to the heat. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
Does removing the front glass visor ( front glass windshield) has any negative effect on ride quality? I don't mind wind on me, its just the scooter might look way much better without it. ( I am thinking of buying it but my test drive unit had visor attached on it)
The windshield is not structural so I'm sure you could remove it no worries.
Always fancied one but are you aware of the £800 to £1100 service cost at around 10,000 miles
That'll be one I'll do myself as it'll be out of warranty. Shocking though.
You can buy a 5 year / 30,000 miles all inclusive service plan for £710 from BMW which is superb value for money. The only extras are consumables such as tyres and brake pads.🙄
update: 2 months into owning the 2022 it’s already in the shop for repairs… a warranty is meaningless when parts and quality are nonexistent. i’m hopeful that yours “if you own one” hasn’t started leaking oil. look underneath the CVT and see if there’s oil collecting, if so, there’s a build / quality issue. these are very very expensive and too have it usable for only a few weeks seems pretty poor. BMW BMW has seriously let me personally down and i currently regret the bike. the hondas and yamahas never presented issues like this. today while still in the shop waiting for parts i’m going to return the bike for what i’m used…. something that is japanese, it may not have the BMW badge, but what does that mean when it’s a 10,000 paper weight.
That sounds awful. I hope they get it sorted for you. So far so good for mine, but I did question the quality with the squeaking bodywork. I've had Japanese and even a Taiwanese scooter that did not do that. The Kymco was much better than expected while the Japanese always do things right. I hope you get everything sorted and I hope mine does not befall the same fate. Thanks for watching and for your kind input.
Hope you get sorted Ninja. A bit soul destroying when something like that happens.
I wonder how many larger scooters are actually built in Japan now........
These scoots are built in China, the one good thing is it’s a BMW engine and not a Kymco knock off
My CE-04 IS IN THE SHOP AFTER THREE MONTHS OF OWNERSHIP. NEVER WILL I BUY ANOTHER BMW PRODUCT
Really useful, thank you 👍
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment.
How was the seating position and comfort compared to the Burgman 400. Thanks for the overall ownership review.
That is one thing that is pretty similar.
Nice vidéo.Excep front brake and gps i prefer Honda 350 with a real storage space and fabulous real Honda engine electric windscreen...
Thank you. I would certainly consider the Honda too. It is just a matter of preference. Thank you for watching.
Nice review; just waiting for mine, an ex demonstrator. A bit apprehensive going from foot change and clutch - to just sit back and hang on. But age dictates.
I like the hand guards. Looking at the Wunderlich hand guards it seems you need to buy their screen for clearance. Have you got a link where you sourced your hand guards?
You'll love the CVT transmission. You'll adapt in seconds. The handguards were sourced in China via Aliexpress. If I recall correctly they were around £14 inc postage and VAT delivered to UK. Good luck with the scooter and enjoy.
Are you based in Northern Ireland and do you still have the scooter
I'm in Northern Ireland but I recently traded the BMW in for another scooter. I hope this helps.
@@GaryGSF very good. I’ve been a motorcycle rider for almost 20 years now but never owned a scooter. I test rode the smaller Suzuki burg man a few years back when I first considered a scooter but felt like it was a little unsteady. Might be time for me to test ride another.
@@GlenAdamson101 You'll not be disappointed. Enjoy.
@@GaryGSF did you end up with the Honda
@@GlenAdamson101 I've got the SH350i now. It's more geared to town work which do most of on the scooter. The BM is more an A road machine.
Is it entirely made at the Loncin factory in China ???? Thats the word out !!!!
I believe it is entirely made in Loncin to a BMW specification I assume. My BMW F900XR is another Loncin bike and it seems fine. Thanks for watching.
Why doesn't BMW proudly announce that motor and every part is made in China ???????? Why do they try to never want to talk about it being made entirely in China 🇨🇳??????? Since they are made much much cheaper like they say, then why don't they discount the overall price ???????
Shareholders love the profits HOWEVER buyers are getting SHAFTED !!!! Just my thoughts on the greed of BMW !!!!
The most boring thing to me is Perfection.
I agree...flaws bring character and nothing is ever perfect. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Yamaha xmax is the way to go
I must get a test ride on one.
@@GaryGSF Yamaha is a more reliable machine than a BMW
@@GaryGSF Have you ridden the XMAX or the NMAX yet?
@@nothere9551 I haven't as yet
@@GaryGSF Yeah I rode the BMW it was nice, a little rough running, but the thing is made in CHINA! I will buy one of the last Jap made scooters, Yammaha NMAX 560.
Cooler Scooter aber mit Analogen Cockpit geht ja gar nicht.
Thank you.
The audio is a hot mess when your driving.
I totally agree. Set up the audio when stopped and did not compensate for the road noise etc when on the move. Everyday is a school day. Thanks for watching.