Speaking of old unsolved franchises, would you be willing to look into Petscop again? Matpat promised us a final, definitive video years ago and it never happened. Not only that but I think more content has dropped since then
12:34 my only critique is I think it’s within reason for Ralph to have assumed Disney had trademarked the saying before they actually did, so it doesn’t necessarily have to take place after it was trademarked. Great video!!
The saddest thing about Phone Guy for me is how he's overlooked and forgotten by the series as a whole. He's just another nameless victim of the animatronics and by extention Afton to get added to the pile. That's the true tragedy of Phone Guy.
Are you planning on making a video about this book, out of curiosity? It seems like you might have some interesting insight. Either way, love the content, thanks for all you do!
I would love to see your video on this. Side note I'm starting to think some lore is only there because of previous games lines and that now the games and books uses what was considered throwaway lines to make connections. The first FNAF was considered a last swan for Scott, so as most know he probably didn't envisioned the future until after the success of the first game.
Fun fact is that one of the most famous ballets is called coppelia which is where she got her name. The story of Coppelia is about a toy maker who creates a life sized dancing doll...
At 8:22 In actuality, they do not exclude one another. This is the place where he never brought his daughter. He took his daughter to meet the animatronics at work several years earlier, like at the location of the 2nd game.
I was thinking that, but there's also context. Dont just read the sentence, read the paragraph. Its saying he has an employee discount but never got to use it since he never brought his daughter here.
Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but using the name “Coppelia” for his daughter is really interesting. Coppelia was the original robot kid. It comes from the ballet Coppelia which features a young man falling in love with a strange woman called Coppelia. Eventually, it’s revealed that she’s actually a doll. The inventor that made her wants her to come to life and tries to use magic to steal the young man’s soul. It’s based on Der Sandmann by ETA Hoffmann. The whole point is that she’s indistinguishable from a real human which really feels like a point for the “Robot Kid” theories from this franchise. It’s a really clever Easter egg if nothing else!
Actually I'm sure Scott already referenced User Friendly even if it was unintentional: the Aftons have grey eyes in their gene pool. Same level as naming an offhand character's child Coppelia. I'll take it.
18:40 the 30 years is referring to the closure of the original Freddy's, which shut down in 1985, meaning Fnaf 3 takes place in 2015... The same year the game came out in real life
Hate to be that guy, but 2015 for FNAF 3 isn't likely or even impossible for many reasons. 1. Scott said FNAF 3 was almost solved after it's release and it would be impossible to have known 2015 as the date as the year 1985 wasn't given to us till the Silver Eyes released months later. 2. The files for Scottgames outright says 30 years after FNAF 1, not the 1985 location. 3. Into the Pit has a calendar whose dates line up with 2018. And we know it's been abandoned for 3 years, putting the game in 2021. Jeff's pizza has arcades and posters that end up in the FNAF 3 location, meaning Into the Pit takes place before FNAF 3, making 2015 impossible.
You can't use the amount pay as a way to gauge the year, employers don't pay you the amount of hours you worked that week, but the previous week. So if the security guard is getting paid $120.50 on the week they're working their first full week, then the previous week could have been orientation and training pay. So the new guard could have been paid for 4 hours of orientation one day, then 8 hours of training for a total of 12 hours if the guard is getting paid $10 an hour, and most places pay a night shift premium as well. Then there's states that have their own minimum wage, and there's places that pay more than minimum wage. There's way too many factors that go into how much the security guard is getting paid to make an accurate call on the year if you're going to use minimum wage.
also a lot of jobs that dont always pay you during training! my first job was a cheap pizza place and they just brought me in on a normal workday and had someone talk me through some random stuff for an hour or so and sent me home after lol
Usually if you're terminated they'll just write you a check for what you're currently owed so they can be done and over with it. Some places will even just pay you in cash.
There is also the issue that the amount printed on your check is your final take home pay after taxes and other deductions. Not the amount you get just based on on hourly wage x hours worked.
That's a good point that I'm not sure anyone has ever addressed. Your character seemingly gets paid too early. And if Freddy's does biweekly payments like Hardee's or McDonald's does (my brother has worked at both), then that means our character wouldn't be a new employee. They would have already worked the last 2 weeks prior for very minimal hours, possibly during the day when there was little to no danger.
“Not every story has to have significance, you try to read into every little thing and find meaning in what anyone says, you’ll just drive yourself crazy. You’ll likely end up believing something you shouldn’t believe and thinking something you shouldn’t think, or assuming something you shouldn’t assume.”
9:50 “Who watches the watcher” is not originally from Star Trek. It is actually a phrase in Latin (“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”) that the Romans used to refer to the guards men would hire to ensure their wives would not cheat on them when they were away because the guards, inevitably, were the ones the wives cheated with. It eventually became a phrase used as a critique of those in positions of power through Plato’s “Republic”. It is also commonly used in the Watchmen comics, which began in 1987, and is what the name of the comic is derived from. Edit: All I mean by this is that the line is not necessarily a reference to 1989 media. This specific translation (using “watchers” rather than “watchmen” or “guardsmen,” which are much more common in comparison) could indicate that the intention was to reference Star Trek. However, it could instead (or perhaps additionally) be more thematic, it could be an inadvertent commentary on William’s actions, as parents rely on him to make the experience for their children safe when he is in fact the one harming them himself. It could also be a 1987 media reference to the aforementioned Watchmen comics, which is one of the first pieces of pop culture to use the phrase. The only piece of pop culture from before Watchmen that Wikipedia lists as referencing the phrase is the song “Justice” by The Pop Group. “Guards! Guards!,” the eighth Discworld book, also references this line and is also from 1989, though that is an erroneous version of the original Latin phrase (“Quis custodiet custard?”). All this to say that I do not believe this line is good evidence to support the idea that the game takes place in 1989, as the true origin and potential references it could be part of are too varied and the purpose of the line could very well be something else entirely.
An important detail that I think is important to rembember for later videos is that Ralph also hears Golden Freddy say It’s me, which was an important piece of evidence for Mike being the player character and the crying child being in golden freddy. The fact that a character he probably wouldn’t have known also said ”It’s me” leads me to believe that the player character mystery may not have been solvef.
@8:22 they actually aren't mutually exclusive. He never took his daughter here (this location). He took his daughter to meet the animatronics at work several years earlier, like at the location of the 2nd game.
And this wound be even more helpful, since there was an age he took her to a different restaurant. So you could figure out when he started working at this one (or at least a general date)
Two things on the pay checks, which I am sure others have already pointed out elsewhere. 1. There could be withholdings from the pay check (taxes, health care, etc) that might make the pay seem to be below minimum wage when it is just the take-home amount. 2. The date on the check could be the date it was issued instead of the pay day. Depending on how the company handles payroll and whether they use an outside service, they may need to have the checks done one or even a few days ahead of distribution.
OBJECTION!!! The Simpsons makes a joke about "Happiest Place On Earth" being a lawyer defended Disney copyright in 1989. Could have just been a reference to this classic episode.
Yeah, relying on the precise trademark date assumes Ralph is some kind of Disney/intellectual property law nerd, which he isn't. Especially in the era before internet trivia videos
"Who Watches The Watchers" is an interesting pick from Scott, when it comes to Star Trek episodes: The episode is about a group of scientists who were observing an alien race that were only in the bronze age. They were observing them using holograms to mask their presence, but the technology failed due to an accident. The Enterprise came to aid the science team, but one of the aliens noticed the research site, and got injured due to the malfunctioning technology. Since the alien's injuries were their fault, they healed his injuries and attempted to erase his memories of the encounter. Instead, the alien remembered the entire encounter, and thought that Captain Picard was a God who used his magic to heal his injuries, prompting him to tell his village that he's met God. Now with a belief system, the aliens start doing things that they think will appease their God, including trying to sacrifice someone who supposedly disobeyed their God. The episode works as two cautionary tales. The first one is the importance of not interfering in underdeveloped cultures, and the unintended consequences that could accompany said actions. The second lesson is the importance to not blindly serve one you believe is your deity, as you might gravely misinterpret their will, or their intent. It's interesting how Scott's known for being a religious man, and that he'd reference an episode of a show that would show religion in a negative light.
I don’t think Henry’s recording name has anything to do with the year. If all his recordings were named like that, then there could only be one per year, and that wouldn’t make any sense
@GameTheory I understand that the FNAF movie is an alternate canon, much like the books, but what I find interesting is that the song the animatronics sing is Talking in Your Sleep by the Romantics. If this is one of the songs the band was stuck singing for 20 years, it's pretty odd to see that it was released in 1983, meaning that +20 years would bring us to 2003. This is far from evidence, but maybe Scott was trying to hint at this through the movie? Just a thought I wanted to share.
and that’s the problem, this franchise is relying on over complicated storyline and dull Mysteries instead of a good story and interesting Mysteries like every good franchise should
@@lostmonkey Why has no one thought of this? 😅 like seriously…an american would either include the FULL date, or month and year. Month and year, or day and year make little sense as it won’t exactly tell you when it’s from specifically..and you’d already know the year, so specifying the month and date makes more sense
Most of the stuff here is correct. However, there's something i found regarding the disney copyright that puts Fnaf 1 in 1992 specifically. An important reference to..... The simpsons. Specifically the October 15th 1992 episode 4 of Season 4. Where it starts off with Skinner being sued by disney for the "happiest place on earth" copyright. (TH-cam videos of the clip are normally titled "copyright expired", due to one of the lines from the specific scene) And also November 1992 also matches the other evidence, like the "12th = Thursday" and paycheck amount evidence from the first Game Theory Fnaf video that says it takes place between 1991-1996. And the only bit it contradicts is the bit the unwithered truth mentions might just be a mistake. But mainly, referencing a (less than a month old) simpsons episode is more in character for Phone Guy/Ralph than to reference an IRL copyright/event.
Referencing a real event where legal riffraff is involved is definitely not something the average guy does, for sure. But if the funny cartoon show does it... 🤔🤌
it's almost like this whole franchise is based on one dude hastily building tracks in front of a runaway train and the random numbers in the first game that came out might not all have been thought out to the tiniest detail in connection to everything else over a decade of games. wild
I think that FNAF 1 takes place in 2003 and FNAF 3 takes place in 2015, 30 years after the 1983 location closed in 1985. The HRY223 could be saying it's Henry's 223rd tape, or that it was recorded in February 23rd. It doesn't make much sense for it to mean 2023 because it means that Henry didn't record any other tapes in 2023, as you can't have 2 files with the same name.
Well there is a theory when FNaF 1 takes place in 1989. And it's very interesting. BUT I checked the 1989 November 13th and it doesn't fit the check in the two firsts endings of FNaF.
18:05 the description does not say anything about the specific location being closed, just a location in general. This could mean fnaf 3 takes place in 2015.
Hey Tom! I think I found out what Pit Bonnie is! So, we don't see a Funtime Bonnie ever, right? But if we count the Twisted Ones as Funtimes (I kinda consider them as prototypes, like the Mark II Funtimes) then we DO have a FT Bonnie. And we know that the whole idea of the Twisted Ones are that they use sound discs to look organic. The Funtimes also have sound discs. In the Pit game we see detailed lines going over Pit Bonnie's head, like a Funtime. And we see clearly that he can use illusions to look like what he is not, pretending to be Oswald's dad, and pretending to have organic teeth. What if Pit Bonnie, is just Funtime Bonnie infused with Agony, or Remnant, or whatever the new mystery goo is now?
I don't think a single Thursday paycheck should be used to assume that every payday would be on Thursdays. Chevron had paid my dad on specific days of the month instead of specific weekdays, so the day of the week on his paycheck would vary.
In relation to the FNAF 3 year issue, there is a video by a channel caller Gibi's Horror Homestead that gives a good line of evidence for FNAF 3 to take place in 2015, saying that the 30 year closure or Freddy's is referring to the closure that was caused by the MCI in 1985.
It makes sense, but the FNaF3 posters, drawings and arcades appear intact in Jeff's pizza, so theoretically, FNaF 3 should take place after Into The Pit, which doesn't seem to be the case since the August 2018 calendar exists at the school by Oswald and the Jeff's website made reference to 2020. Indicating that Into The Pit takes place in one of those two years, that is, after 2015.
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Maybe it's just me, but if the only thing that's holding back is the dates on the checks, it's a little moot. I've had plenty of jobs that pay on different days; some on Wed some of Thurs, some of Fri. Also, sometimes when you get fired they just hand you a check then for what you've worked already, presumably because they don't want you to come back (particularly for odor lol). Basically, I don't believe there's any regulation on how/when you give your employees paychecks on a specific day.
Heres a theory about the 2003 pay. Under 18s get payed less and the hourly rate for them wouldve been less then £5.15 and its alot easier for employer's to under pay under 18s due to them not being as familiar with being payed and having a job. It would explain a bit of why the pay is so low but thats only a small idea. However say he is an adult like we believe if he got payed every Wednesday then the friday and thursday pay would've been included in the following weeks pay due to how the work week is scheduled at freddys. Following the payslip it would mean thursday is the technical start of their work week as they get payed a week later on the wednesday. I hope this makes sense was just a silly idea lol
it's kinda weird how phone guy was giving us lore drops since the FIRST game, and is still giving us lore drops until today even after his death he is a chad fr
Heres a take: all three are correct. And with that, all endings in the book have happened and/or will have happened. Its all a multiverse. Well, kinda. And the points where tumelines split are all the decisions you make in the book. This would explain why one gets paid on a Friday while ankyher gets paid on a Wednesday. After all the multiverse stuff from Marvel and DC, maybe FNaF is hopping in with the trend?
Wait.. idea and it might just be me being dumb BUT STILL- This is about Copellias age. No I haven’t read the books but when it mentions she hasn’t been to the diner which contradicts her going there at age 7 could mean that she’s under 7 when the book mentions she’s never been to the diner. Idk man, I’m just putting random things out here- Enjoyed the video!
To be fair, most would probably assume Disney had trademarked the phrase back when the park opened or shortly after. If you had asked me before watching this video, I wouldn't have guessed anything later than 1960 for example. So it's possible Ralph (and the author) just assumed the phase was trademarked back in the 50s, especially if the line was meant to be more of a joke reference rather than something meaningful. I could be completely wrong here, but as I said "To be fair". Also I think a lot of the 80s references are to set an idea of Ralphs age. Things we watched as kids until are brains fully form around 25, tend to stick with us far more than stuff we watched after our brains form fully. This part of the reason every "old" generation thinks everything was better back in their day. Ralph mentioning movies from the mid to late 80s means he probably was somewhere between being an older kid to a young adult during the mid to late 80s. As for his daughter also making a reference to an 80s movie, there's a very high chance Ralph has watched these movies in front of her and an even higher chance of him quoting the movies in front of her and thus, even if she's never seen the movies, she knows the quote from her dad.
i dont think Fnaf 3 takes place 30 years after fnaf 1, but rather 30 years after the original closing in 1985, in the steam page of fnaf 3, "Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed it's doors, the events that took place there have become nothing more than a rumor and a childhood memory" could be referring to being 30 years after the original closing, as freddys has closed multiple times, and we know the original location did indeed close, because the withereds are in the fnaf 2 location, and phone guy mentions how the old freddys location has been left to rot, its a reopening after all, so this final issue could be solved if this is taken into account, fnaf 3 would be 30 years after the mci, being in 2015, which gives 20 years for hw, fnaf ar, fnaf 6, and security breach to happen
@@kabenintendofan "Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed it's doors" Note the exact phrasing here. It heavily implies the chain/franchise closed it's doors. ...also note that FNAF 1 *IS* the MCI Location.
10:24 I... don't follow the reasoning on that one. Why would the commercials continuing to be made into the mid-ninties imply that the date could be later? That's a pretty extreme leap in logic. As long as the reference is contemporary ti the eighties, there's no reason to suppose the game could take place later solely on this fact.
I think the idea was that the references could be just as fresh for phone guy when the commercial stopped, and because of that, the references can't be used as definitive evidence that it took place in '89 or even early 90's.
@victoriamiskolci5769 I mean, that's literally true for all of them. If anything, all the eighties references suggest that he likely grew up with them.
I'm still convinced that SB takes place wayyy later in the future, because it's said on one of the voice lines in the elevator that bears went extinct.
>because it's said on one of the voice lines in the elevator that bears went extinct. Probably because it's a Timeline where they did so far earlier, not that it's 2135 or such :V
@@higueraft571 that just doesn't really make sense to me though. How would the other technology work? As well as, that would throw a huge wrench into the timeline. The pizzaplex came after the original fnaf, and we see evidence of that when going to the basement.
@@VesperVampiric >How would the other technology work? Simple, it just does. The same way that the Early 80s Springlock suits are transforming animatronics (not just ones that stand on their own, but *walk,* with advanced enough pathfinding to navigate towards the nearest sound of children/around obstacles) with springs strong enough to rival Car Springs. The Tech is 100% *not* something to be concerned with, especially when it's things that we're STILL struggling with in *2024* back in the 80s. :V
Tom, before you can dig too deep on how "The Week Before" contradict the FNAF timeline, you must remember that the "interactive fiction" genre of books tends to be way different than traditional novels. Traditional novels usually follows a 3 act structure involving main characters with set personalities going through a consistent and straightforward story with only one ending outcome. Interactive fiction let YOU be the main character and you get to decide on what outcome the story goes which often leads to multiple different endings depending on the choices you make.
According to Mat Pat, Scott said these supplemental materials aren't meant to be taken literally as in game FNAF lore. These books are "dramatically inspired". They leave clues for figuring out the lore of the game.
2003 makes the most sense more likely because it's more likely the 223 means February 23rd than the year which would more likely be abbreviated 23 anyway
but it's hinted that fnaf 6 takes place in october considering one of the posters in the alley is for "spookfest", which would be a halloween event, and there's no other reason to put that there other than to subtly hint at the date. although i do agree 223 likely doesnt refer to 2023, its more likely that it simply refers to henrys 223rd audio tape rather than being any specific date.
I just want to give so many kudos to the throwaway joke at 5:40 about "a couple of dates have been thrown around" and 2 literal date fruits get thrown across screen. Perfect visual Punnary friends!
As for the midnight motorist, we know that orange man is purple guy, the kid who escaped the house could be Michael Afton. Felling the guilt of killing his little brother, the crying child (David) he is visiting the grave, that we can also find in the mini game. As for the green man, I think that is Hendry. Why? Well this might be in timeline just after the five nights at Freddy's 2 opened. We know that Hendry knows what Afton has done so he is banned from that pizzeria.that is why he is saying,,you know you can't be here..." As for the.figure watching the TV in the house, that could be Afton's wife. Why? Well everybody is dead or already in other place. Elizabeth is dead, crying child is dead and Michael is at the grave. That is my theory.
4:47 FNaF 1 probably takes place in 1993 because Scott said that he was surpised to how fast we discovered everything at the begining of the franchise.
Specifically, he said: "You know, when I released the first game over a year ago, I was amazed at how quickly everyone found every bit of lore and story." I wouldn't consider the date to be part of the lore or story, and it wasn't there to be found. Finding the story is quite different from making inferences about non-story trivia.
FNaF to the Theorists: "To retrieve the missing LORE just make sense of this change of events. Twists and turns are the master plan. Then find the clues back where you began."
I think it's silly to take a throwaway line about a disney trademark as proof of when the game takes place. Maybe Ralph was just assuming that the phrase was trademarked without researching or just didn't think about it enough to care It's 1989 imo
Star trek, Spaceballs, Goonies, and Lostboys is a very niche, nerdy titles to quote. I do have to point out though that FNAF AR very clearly date their emails at the end of 2019. And I maintain that FNAF 3 takes place "thirty years after that tragic event" which could be 30 years after the MCI Which is 2015. The year FNAF 3 came out.
>I do have to point out though that FNAF AR very clearly date their emails at the end of 2019. Problem is, you're taking this from The Ultimate Guide right? Those were the *actual* real-world dates those Emails were sent out/released. ...i wouldnt use the Guide as Evidence honestly, considering all the flaws it's known to have. This may also throw a few potential issues into the future timeline too?
Part of the problem with trying to solve this lore is that Scott was likely not planning on making any extensive lore when he made that first game. He just wanted to give his career as a game developer one last shot, and that last shot just happened to hit the bullseye, which, of course, meant that he had to capitalize on finally making a successful game.
I honestly always thought The Week Before was a sort of Happiest Day for Ralph. It explains why we have to repeat the book to get different endings and different items. Stuck on repeat
Well i guess in a way if you really think about it for the 2023 date, it still technically has the issue of 30 years because there is a possibility that it could be 30 years later, but not directly/exactly 30 years. Specifically a possibility of that 30 years still being something like 32-33 years, but still in that 30 year category.
21:18 You're missing the point. Scott doesn't like giving simple answers to important information. Him giving answers for the little questions we've been asking since the first game is a huge gesture.
"THE PHONE GUY IS PURPLE MAN"
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As a friend of Ralph, i can confirm he chill like that👍
Tom is spiraling just like Matt before him
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I like how Phone Guy has fully transitioned into being Scott's FNaF self-insert who is characterized as just "some underpayed manager".
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Speaking of old unsolved franchises, would you be willing to look into Petscop again? Matpat promised us a final, definitive video years ago and it never happened. Not only that but I think more content has dropped since then
agree! i need a petscop final
I second this
There's actually a video about the story of Petscop and some theories on a channel called Nexpo
I agree with dat one
Same with meow wolf /omega mart!
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12:34 my only critique is I think it’s within reason for Ralph to have assumed Disney had trademarked the saying before they actually did, so it doesn’t necessarily have to take place after it was trademarked. Great video!!
As someone brought up, Simpsons has this exact gag with Disney taking place in 1992. "Copyright Expired" or such.
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The saddest thing about Phone Guy for me is how he's overlooked and forgotten by the series as a whole. He's just another nameless victim of the animatronics and by extention Afton to get added to the pile. That's the true tragedy of Phone Guy.
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But he’s not nameless lol
@@solarsunne4950 That’s not saying much. I mean do you even remember Charles Cooper?
@@senatorarmstrong1233 Good point, but still :P
Can confirm, would be willing to double check the lore XD
Are you planning on making a video about this book, out of curiosity? It seems like you might have some interesting insight. Either way, love the content, thanks for all you do!
I would love to see your video on this.
Side note I'm starting to think some lore is only there because of previous games lines and that now the games and books uses what was considered throwaway lines to make connections. The first FNAF was considered a last swan for Scott, so as most know he probably didn't envisioned the future until after the success of the first game.
Would love to see a video from you discussing this book. I'm curious as to what connections you would make and what you agree with from this video.
Yo! Excited to see the new theories! ☺️
Fun fact is that one of the most famous ballets is called coppelia which is where she got her name. The story of Coppelia is about a toy maker who creates a life sized dancing doll...
I sense some LORE there
When I heard her name I immediately came to the comments to see who else noticed that Easter egg
What’s also funny was the ballet was based of the short story The Sandman, which unlike the ballet being a comedy(?), is a horror story
If this is an intended lore bit, is coppelia Ballora, or one of the minirinas?
@@shadowunikat849that would mean both William and Ralph have a daughter who became one of the Funtimes lol
At 8:22 In actuality, they do not exclude one another. This is the place where he never brought his daughter. He took his daughter to meet the animatronics at work several years earlier, like at the location of the 2nd game.
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I was thinking that, but there's also context. Dont just read the sentence, read the paragraph. Its saying he has an employee discount but never got to use it since he never brought his daughter here.
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Not sure if anyone pointed this out, but using the name “Coppelia” for his daughter is really interesting. Coppelia was the original robot kid.
It comes from the ballet Coppelia which features a young man falling in love with a strange woman called Coppelia. Eventually, it’s revealed that she’s actually a doll. The inventor that made her wants her to come to life and tries to use magic to steal the young man’s soul. It’s based on Der Sandmann by ETA Hoffmann. The whole point is that she’s indistinguishable from a real human which really feels like a point for the “Robot Kid” theories from this franchise.
It’s a really clever Easter egg if nothing else!
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I thought THIS would've been the subject they made a theory about.
Lol nice easter egg for sure. Joy Of Creation levels definitely. Maybe Scott will also reference User Friendly by T. Ernesto?
Actually I'm sure Scott already referenced User Friendly even if it was unintentional: the Aftons have grey eyes in their gene pool. Same level as naming an offhand character's child Coppelia. I'll take it.
@@piplup2248 Honestly, the moment they said her name, I thought it would be!
18:40 the 30 years is referring to the closure of the original Freddy's, which shut down in 1985, meaning Fnaf 3 takes place in 2015... The same year the game came out in real life
That makes sense I was wondering why it was established to be in 2023. I was so confused about that
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It could also be referring to MCI too because it took place in 1985
Hate to be that guy, but 2015 for FNAF 3 isn't likely or even impossible for many reasons.
1. Scott said FNAF 3 was almost solved after it's release and it would be impossible to have known 2015 as the date as the year 1985 wasn't given to us till the Silver Eyes released months later.
2. The files for Scottgames outright says 30 years after FNAF 1, not the 1985 location.
3. Into the Pit has a calendar whose dates line up with 2018. And we know it's been abandoned for 3 years, putting the game in 2021. Jeff's pizza has arcades and posters that end up in the FNAF 3 location, meaning Into the Pit takes place before FNAF 3, making 2015 impossible.
@@Wintertrap14 It's the reason why the first Freddy's closed, so yeah I guess
You can't use the amount pay as a way to gauge the year, employers don't pay you the amount of hours you worked that week, but the previous week. So if the security guard is getting paid $120.50 on the week they're working their first full week, then the previous week could have been orientation and training pay. So the new guard could have been paid for 4 hours of orientation one day, then 8 hours of training for a total of 12 hours if the guard is getting paid $10 an hour, and most places pay a night shift premium as well. Then there's states that have their own minimum wage, and there's places that pay more than minimum wage. There's way too many factors that go into how much the security guard is getting paid to make an accurate call on the year if you're going to use minimum wage.
also a lot of jobs that dont always pay you during training! my first job was a cheap pizza place and they just brought me in on a normal workday and had someone talk me through some random stuff for an hour or so and sent me home after lol
Usually if you're terminated they'll just write you a check for what you're currently owed so they can be done and over with it. Some places will even just pay you in cash.
There is also the issue that the amount printed on your check is your final take home pay after taxes and other deductions. Not the amount you get just based on on hourly wage x hours worked.
That's a good point that I'm not sure anyone has ever addressed. Your character seemingly gets paid too early. And if Freddy's does biweekly payments like Hardee's or McDonald's does (my brother has worked at both), then that means our character wouldn't be a new employee. They would have already worked the last 2 weeks prior for very minimal hours, possibly during the day when there was little to no danger.
Mmm
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3:19 whoever planned this needs a raise. This was SO clever and creative. I LOVE the advertisement set up!
Agreed!!
It's the only ad I haven't skipped
9:50 “Who watches the watcher” is not originally from Star Trek. It is actually a phrase in Latin (“Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”) that the Romans used to refer to the guards men would hire to ensure their wives would not cheat on them when they were away because the guards, inevitably, were the ones the wives cheated with. It eventually became a phrase used as a critique of those in positions of power through Plato’s “Republic”. It is also commonly used in the Watchmen comics, which began in 1987, and is what the name of the comic is derived from.
Edit: All I mean by this is that the line is not necessarily a reference to 1989 media. This specific translation (using “watchers” rather than “watchmen” or “guardsmen,” which are much more common in comparison) could indicate that the intention was to reference Star Trek. However, it could instead (or perhaps additionally) be more thematic, it could be an inadvertent commentary on William’s actions, as parents rely on him to make the experience for their children safe when he is in fact the one harming them himself. It could also be a 1987 media reference to the aforementioned Watchmen comics, which is one of the first pieces of pop culture to use the phrase. The only piece of pop culture from before Watchmen that Wikipedia lists as referencing the phrase is the song “Justice” by The Pop Group. “Guards! Guards!,” the eighth Discworld book, also references this line and is also from 1989, though that is an erroneous version of the original Latin phrase (“Quis custodiet custard?”). All this to say that I do not believe this line is good evidence to support the idea that the game takes place in 1989, as the true origin and potential references it could be part of are too varied and the purpose of the line could very well be something else entirely.
Fnaf 1 takes place in roman era confirmed.
Michael Afton's wife cheated on him confirmed (harmony and horror reference?!?!!?11??!
Is it weird that I knew the quote wasn't from Fnaf because I watched Justice League unlimited?
Stop yapping. You do nothing but yap
@@keithharrissuwignjo2460That was so last year. Now its get a life yapper man.
Who would've guessed that the original Game Theory of Phone Guy being Purple Guy would eventually end up with this theory, 10 years later
The mann, the myth, the legend
He is THE Stick Master
@@StormStabs Master of the stick and proclaimer of heroes
The new guy without a mustache is here
Now, let's make him do a theory about SpookWagen.
An important detail that I think is important to rembember for later videos is that Ralph also hears Golden Freddy say It’s me, which was an important piece of evidence for Mike being the player character and the crying child being in golden freddy. The fact that a character he probably wouldn’t have known also said ”It’s me” leads me to believe that the player character mystery may not have been solvef.
I love Santi's reaction during the merch section of the video.
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@@alphaa2010no child
Get a tripod
@8:22 they actually aren't mutually exclusive. He never took his daughter here (this location). He took his daughter to meet the animatronics at work several years earlier, like at the location of the 2nd game.
And this wound be even more helpful, since there was an age he took her to a different restaurant. So you could figure out when he started working at this one (or at least a general date)
@@CottonCandySharks >So you could figure out when he started working at this one
After 1987 :V
But he says he's not had an opportunity to use the family discount he gets as an employee, for which location doesn't matter.
That Lumen ad was amazingly well done
agreed
Finally someone mentions it! It was great
I saw this comment right as it appeared
Ash as Golden Freddy is fitting for them so much
The ad was exactly like FNAF. How fitting.
Two things on the pay checks, which I am sure others have already pointed out elsewhere.
1. There could be withholdings from the pay check (taxes, health care, etc) that might make the pay seem to be below minimum wage when it is just the take-home amount.
2. The date on the check could be the date it was issued instead of the pay day. Depending on how the company handles payroll and whether they use an outside service, they may need to have the checks done one or even a few days ahead of distribution.
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it's the game with the least amout of information, so there's a lot of teories
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OBJECTION!!!
The Simpsons makes a joke about "Happiest Place On Earth" being a lawyer defended Disney copyright in 1989. Could have just been a reference to this classic episode.
Copywrite and trademark are separate things although it also assumes the speaker knows the difference and is being literal
Yeah, relying on the precise trademark date assumes Ralph is some kind of Disney/intellectual property law nerd, which he isn't. Especially in the era before internet trivia videos
COUNTER OBJECTION!!!
The episode that joke was from “Lisa the Beauty queen” came out in 1992 not 1989
Also it was Disney's slogan even before they copyrighted it so it's not far fetched to say Fazbear entertainment just wanted to be careful
@@HiftcoSo we're back to maybe 1993
"Who Watches The Watchers" is an interesting pick from Scott, when it comes to Star Trek episodes:
The episode is about a group of scientists who were observing an alien race that were only in the bronze age. They were observing them using holograms to mask their presence, but the technology failed due to an accident. The Enterprise came to aid the science team, but one of the aliens noticed the research site, and got injured due to the malfunctioning technology. Since the alien's injuries were their fault, they healed his injuries and attempted to erase his memories of the encounter. Instead, the alien remembered the entire encounter, and thought that Captain Picard was a God who used his magic to heal his injuries, prompting him to tell his village that he's met God. Now with a belief system, the aliens start doing things that they think will appease their God, including trying to sacrifice someone who supposedly disobeyed their God.
The episode works as two cautionary tales. The first one is the importance of not interfering in underdeveloped cultures, and the unintended consequences that could accompany said actions. The second lesson is the importance to not blindly serve one you believe is your deity, as you might gravely misinterpret their will, or their intent.
It's interesting how Scott's known for being a religious man, and that he'd reference an episode of a show that would show religion in a negative light.
Phone guy is such a lovable character he is one of my favorites
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I don’t think Henry’s recording name has anything to do with the year. If all his recordings were named like that, then there could only be one per year, and that wouldn’t make any sense
@GameTheory I understand that the FNAF movie is an alternate canon, much like the books, but what I find interesting is that the song the animatronics sing is Talking in Your Sleep by the Romantics. If this is one of the songs the band was stuck singing for 20 years, it's pretty odd to see that it was released in 1983, meaning that +20 years would bring us to 2003. This is far from evidence, but maybe Scott was trying to hint at this through the movie? Just a thought I wanted to share.
0:17 my guess is that it’ll do both
Ding ding ding, your a winner.
I have that exact pfp on my tiktok lol
Yeah the one book about his daughters age might not even supposed to be in the book
Fair
He's finally getting Matpats fnaf madness. You can hear it in his voice
(Everybody trying to find who phone guy is)
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@@Lrmsskev-jejdi Ew who actually plays that?
I like the fact that the franchise isnt easy to solve. Its meant to be a mystery, if everything is solved then nobody will really care anymore
and that’s the problem, this franchise is relying on over complicated storyline and dull Mysteries instead of a good story and interesting Mysteries like every good franchise should
The number on Henry’s recording could be meaning, “Henry’s audio log 223.”
Or it could have been February 23rd when he recorded it(Henry as an American would for sure use that format)
@@lostmonkey Why has no one thought of this? 😅 like seriously…an american would either include the FULL date, or month and year. Month and year, or day and year make little sense as it won’t exactly tell you when it’s from specifically..and you’d already know the year, so specifying the month and date makes more sense
@@lostmonkeyin the alleyway theres posters about a “spookfest” idk why that would take place in February it seems more like a halloween event
@ true!
0:14 this timeline can get more complicated and broken?
Hahahaha
Just you wait
Yes, yes it can.
It’s not even a question.
Can it? More like when will it!
Unfortunately yes
Most of the stuff here is correct. However, there's something i found regarding the disney copyright that puts Fnaf 1 in 1992 specifically. An important reference to.....
The simpsons.
Specifically the October 15th 1992 episode 4 of Season 4.
Where it starts off with Skinner being sued by disney for the "happiest place on earth" copyright. (TH-cam videos of the clip are normally titled "copyright expired", due to one of the lines from the specific scene)
And also November 1992 also matches the other evidence, like the "12th = Thursday" and paycheck amount evidence from the first Game Theory Fnaf video that says it takes place between 1991-1996.
And the only bit it contradicts is the bit the unwithered truth mentions might just be a mistake.
But mainly, referencing a (less than a month old) simpsons episode is more in character for Phone Guy/Ralph than to reference an IRL copyright/event.
Referencing a real event where legal riffraff is involved is definitely not something the average guy does, for sure. But if the funny cartoon show does it... 🤔🤌
Of course the simsons is being used to solve fnaf. And I wouldn't have it any other way
@@thelivingzombie8403 Honestly, makes sense he'd be a Simpsons person
3:45 this is my favorite merch promotion yet.
10 years and the smallest main FNAF game is still full of mysteries and that's pretty insane
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2014: Scott on the phone
2024: Scott on the phone with some lore.
it's almost like this whole franchise is based on one dude hastily building tracks in front of a runaway train and the random numbers in the first game that came out might not all have been thought out to the tiniest detail in connection to everything else over a decade of games. wild
I feel like this is what reboots are actually for.
Who's guess that they have half of Game Theory HQ for the FNAF Department?
4:25 for a second I thought Ash was not gonna get mentioned.. Never forget about Ash!
Tom is slowly decending into the fnaf lore madness like Matpat did
I think that FNAF 1 takes place in 2003 and FNAF 3 takes place in 2015, 30 years after the 1983 location closed in 1985. The HRY223 could be saying it's Henry's 223rd tape, or that it was recorded in February 23rd. It doesn't make much sense for it to mean 2023 because it means that Henry didn't record any other tapes in 2023, as you can't have 2 files with the same name.
Along that same line of naming files, the HRY223 could potentially be the 3rd tape from 2022
Well there is a theory when FNaF 1 takes place in 1989.
And it's very interesting.
BUT I checked the 1989 November 13th and it doesn't fit the check in the two firsts endings of FNaF.
Good theory I like it
18:05 the description does not say anything about the specific location being closed, just a location in general. This could mean fnaf 3 takes place in 2015.
3:58 this shot is crazy
This is definitely fake right… right?
Diabolical pose
The Phone Guy in my mind is just Scott explaining to us how his game works, while subtly dropping lore and playing a character. I respect it!
Are you a bot
That's literally what he is.
Right 😂
4:20 SHE'S PRETTY!!! (I love y'all ads)
Ash jumpscaring as Golden Freddy with peace signs was amazing!
I know his name is Ralph but i will continue calling him Phone Guy , the nickname is just way too iconic
Hey Tom! I think I found out what Pit Bonnie is!
So, we don't see a Funtime Bonnie ever, right? But if we count the Twisted Ones as Funtimes (I kinda consider them as prototypes, like the Mark II Funtimes) then we DO have a FT Bonnie. And we know that the whole idea of the Twisted Ones are that they use sound discs to look organic. The Funtimes also have sound discs. In the Pit game we see detailed lines going over Pit Bonnie's head, like a Funtime. And we see clearly that he can use illusions to look like what he is not, pretending to be Oswald's dad, and pretending to have organic teeth. What if Pit Bonnie, is just Funtime Bonnie infused with Agony, or Remnant, or whatever the new mystery goo is now?
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The Funtime animatronics have vibrant designs, faceplates, and pink/white/purple color palettes.
Pit Bonnie is just Spring Bonnie
I don't think a single Thursday paycheck should be used to assume that every payday would be on Thursdays. Chevron had paid my dad on specific days of the month instead of specific weekdays, so the day of the week on his paycheck would vary.
I'm not gonna lie the lumen AD at 3:27 was actually amazing. i genuinely enjoyed watching it cause of how fun it was
In relation to the FNAF 3 year issue, there is a video by a channel caller Gibi's Horror Homestead that gives a good line of evidence for FNAF 3 to take place in 2015, saying that the 30 year closure or Freddy's is referring to the closure that was caused by the MCI in 1985.
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It makes sense, but the FNaF3 posters, drawings and arcades appear intact in Jeff's pizza, so theoretically, FNaF 3 should take place after Into The Pit, which doesn't seem to be the case since the August 2018 calendar exists at the school by Oswald and the Jeff's website made reference to 2020. Indicating that Into The Pit takes place in one of those two years, that is, after 2015.
I'd like to believe that Ralph is a reference to Ralph T. Guard from Animaniacs. And so I shall.
Oh, and Animaniacs started in...1993.
I’ll choose to believe that as well.
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Tom Lee santi and Amy:what about that shadowy place?
Matt: that's not ours it's ash's
Afton trying his hardest for us to NOT solve fnaf
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Maybe it's just me, but if the only thing that's holding back is the dates on the checks, it's a little moot.
I've had plenty of jobs that pay on different days; some on Wed some of Thurs, some of Fri.
Also, sometimes when you get fired they just hand you a check then for what you've worked already, presumably because they don't want you to come back (particularly for odor lol).
Basically, I don't believe there's any regulation on how/when you give your employees paychecks on a specific day.
4:07 What a burn
Heres a theory about the 2003 pay. Under 18s get payed less and the hourly rate for them wouldve been less then £5.15 and its alot easier for employer's to under pay under 18s due to them not being as familiar with being payed and having a job. It would explain a bit of why the pay is so low but thats only a small idea.
However say he is an adult like we believe if he got payed every Wednesday then the friday and thursday pay would've been included in the following weeks pay due to how the work week is scheduled at freddys. Following the payslip it would mean thursday is the technical start of their work week as they get payed a week later on the wednesday. I hope this makes sense was just a silly idea lol
4:33 the jumpscare of ash got me 💀💀💀
it's kinda weird how phone guy was giving us lore drops since the FIRST game, and is still giving us lore drops until today even after his death
he is a chad fr
Heres a take: all three are correct. And with that, all endings in the book have happened and/or will have happened.
Its all a multiverse. Well, kinda. And the points where tumelines split are all the decisions you make in the book.
This would explain why one gets paid on a Friday while ankyher gets paid on a Wednesday.
After all the multiverse stuff from Marvel and DC, maybe FNaF is hopping in with the trend?
Trying to figure out one timeline is confusing enough, Fnaf doesn’t need to have a multiverse lol. I like your theory though.
Wait.. idea and it might just be me being dumb BUT STILL-
This is about Copellias age. No I haven’t read the books but when it mentions she hasn’t been to the diner which contradicts her going there at age 7 could mean that she’s under 7 when the book mentions she’s never been to the diner.
Idk man, I’m just putting random things out here-
Enjoyed the video!
Glad to be included in that List & finally make it into a Game Theory :]
Would love to do some Lore Factchecking lol
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british jumpscare
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@ hehehehehheheheh it was a jokeee!
@@Hamdoh-x7oyour joke is dumb
this a frickin BOMBSHELL of a choose-your-own-adventure novel.
To be fair, most would probably assume Disney had trademarked the phrase back when the park opened or shortly after.
If you had asked me before watching this video, I wouldn't have guessed anything later than 1960 for example.
So it's possible Ralph (and the author) just assumed the phase was trademarked back in the 50s, especially if the line was meant to be more of a joke reference rather than something meaningful.
I could be completely wrong here, but as I said "To be fair".
Also I think a lot of the 80s references are to set an idea of Ralphs age. Things we watched as kids until are brains fully form around 25, tend to stick with us far more than stuff we watched after our brains form fully.
This part of the reason every "old" generation thinks everything was better back in their day.
Ralph mentioning movies from the mid to late 80s means he probably was somewhere between being an older kid to a young adult during the mid to late 80s.
As for his daughter also making a reference to an 80s movie, there's a very high chance Ralph has watched these movies in front of her and an even higher chance of him quoting the movies in front of her and thus, even if she's never seen the movies, she knows the quote from her dad.
For some reason, phone guy is just amazing. It’s literally just Scott explaining the game, but way better then a tutorial
Everyone collectively went "oh yeah, I forgot about the phone guy"
It’s not a fnaf game without hearing “HELLO, HELLO.” At the begging
i dont think Fnaf 3 takes place 30 years after fnaf 1, but rather 30 years after the original closing in 1985, in the steam page of fnaf 3, "Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed it's doors, the events that took place there have become nothing more than a rumor and a childhood memory" could be referring to being 30 years after the original closing, as freddys has closed multiple times, and we know the original location did indeed close, because the withereds are in the fnaf 2 location, and phone guy mentions how the old freddys location has been left to rot, its a reopening after all, so this final issue could be solved if this is taken into account, fnaf 3 would be 30 years after the mci, being in 2015, which gives 20 years for hw, fnaf ar, fnaf 6, and security breach to happen
This also lines up with having dabbing chica being in the logbook, the same book that shows the fnaf 3 office
@@kabenintendofan "Thirty years after Freddy Fazbear's Pizza closed it's doors"
Note the exact phrasing here. It heavily implies the chain/franchise closed it's doors.
...also note that FNAF 1 *IS* the MCI Location.
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10:24 I... don't follow the reasoning on that one. Why would the commercials continuing to be made into the mid-ninties imply that the date could be later? That's a pretty extreme leap in logic. As long as the reference is contemporary ti the eighties, there's no reason to suppose the game could take place later solely on this fact.
I think the idea was that the references could be just as fresh for phone guy when the commercial stopped, and because of that, the references can't be used as definitive evidence that it took place in '89 or even early 90's.
@victoriamiskolci5769 I mean, that's literally true for all of them. If anything, all the eighties references suggest that he likely grew up with them.
17:17 chewsday
Fr I love chewsdays
Stop being mean to the British guy
@@Acasualguy-hb9dkI know right!? It’s ridiculous!!?
@@The_redcoatswell well well…
The ad was so captivating and well done. Praising an ad is crazy, but it was really good.
I'm still convinced that SB takes place wayyy later in the future, because it's said on one of the voice lines in the elevator that bears went extinct.
>because it's said on one of the voice lines in the elevator that bears went extinct.
Probably because it's a Timeline where they did so far earlier, not that it's 2135 or such :V
@@higueraft571 that just doesn't really make sense to me though. How would the other technology work? As well as, that would throw a huge wrench into the timeline. The pizzaplex came after the original fnaf, and we see evidence of that when going to the basement.
@@VesperVampiric >How would the other technology work?
Simple, it just does.
The same way that the Early 80s Springlock suits are transforming animatronics (not just ones that stand on their own, but *walk,* with advanced enough pathfinding to navigate towards the nearest sound of children/around obstacles) with springs strong enough to rival Car Springs.
The Tech is 100% *not* something to be concerned with, especially when it's things that we're STILL struggling with in *2024* back in the 80s. :V
@@higueraft571 wow, that's a really interesting viewpoint!
Tom, before you can dig too deep on how "The Week Before" contradict the FNAF timeline, you must remember that the "interactive fiction" genre of books tends to be way different than traditional novels. Traditional novels usually follows a 3 act structure involving main characters with set personalities going through a consistent and straightforward story with only one ending outcome. Interactive fiction let YOU be the main character and you get to decide on what outcome the story goes which often leads to multiple different endings depending on the choices you make.
Yes, if only one of the dates has evidence along the canon route, I think I'd go with that.
It seems fitting that a choose your own adventure book would have "choices" for dates as well
According to Mat Pat, Scott said these supplemental materials aren't meant to be taken literally as in game FNAF lore. These books are "dramatically inspired". They leave clues for figuring out the lore of the game.
2003 makes the most sense more likely because it's more likely the 223 means February 23rd than the year which would more likely be abbreviated 23 anyway
but it's hinted that fnaf 6 takes place in october considering one of the posters in the alley is for "spookfest", which would be a halloween event, and there's no other reason to put that there other than to subtly hint at the date. although i do agree 223 likely doesnt refer to 2023, its more likely that it simply refers to henrys 223rd audio tape rather than being any specific date.
Narrator: "He's all bark and no bite"
Santi: "Aw what the Faahh-"
I just want to give so many kudos to the throwaway joke at 5:40 about "a couple of dates have been thrown around" and 2 literal date fruits get thrown across screen. Perfect visual Punnary friends!
As for the midnight motorist, we know that orange man is purple guy, the kid who escaped the house could be Michael Afton. Felling the guilt of killing his little brother, the crying child (David) he is visiting the grave, that we can also find in the mini game. As for the green man, I think that is Hendry. Why? Well this might be in timeline just after the five nights at Freddy's 2 opened. We know that Hendry knows what Afton has done so he is banned from that pizzeria.that is why he is saying,,you know you can't be here..." As for the.figure watching the TV in the house, that could be Afton's wife. Why? Well everybody is dead or already in other place. Elizabeth is dead, crying child is dead and Michael is at the grave. That is my theory.
4:47 FNaF 1 probably takes place in 1993 because Scott said that he was surpised to how fast we discovered everything at the begining of the franchise.
Specifically, he said: "You know, when I released the first game over a year ago, I was amazed at how quickly everyone found every bit of lore and story." I wouldn't consider the date to be part of the lore or story, and it wasn't there to be found. Finding the story is quite different from making inferences about non-story trivia.
@@Warclam Especially when 1992 seems to fit the info we're given better than 1993 too :V
FNaF to the Theorists:
"To retrieve the missing LORE just make sense of this change of events. Twists and turns are the master plan. Then find the clues back where you began."
It’s ironic that this is coming out while we’re getting more lore about MatPat’s Phone Guy character in the FNAF musicals
I think it's silly to take a throwaway line about a disney trademark as proof of when the game takes place. Maybe Ralph was just assuming that the phrase was trademarked without researching or just didn't think about it enough to care
It's 1989 imo
5:32 1998 - 1993? Did you guys find the ballpit?
What Ballpit?
@@yay_jamesO-l5ybro doesnt know the ballpit man
Ballpit incident of 1987
@maximpouliot8634 What?
it's just a typo..
I love Phone Guy. He's honestly so underrated.
Star trek, Spaceballs, Goonies, and Lostboys is a very niche, nerdy titles to quote.
I do have to point out though that FNAF AR very clearly date their emails at the end of 2019. And I maintain that FNAF 3 takes place "thirty years after that tragic event" which could be 30 years after the MCI Which is 2015. The year FNAF 3 came out.
>I do have to point out though that FNAF AR very clearly date their emails at the end of 2019.
Problem is, you're taking this from The Ultimate Guide right?
Those were the *actual* real-world dates those Emails were sent out/released.
...i wouldnt use the Guide as Evidence honestly, considering all the flaws it's known to have.
This may also throw a few potential issues into the future timeline too?
Part of the problem with trying to solve this lore is that Scott was likely not planning on making any extensive lore when he made that first game. He just wanted to give his career as a game developer one last shot, and that last shot just happened to hit the bullseye, which, of course, meant that he had to capitalize on finally making a successful game.
I honestly always thought The Week Before was a sort of Happiest Day for Ralph. It explains why we have to repeat the book to get different endings and different items. Stuck on repeat
Now this is an amazing ad read. 3:40
One of the few i actually watched
Well i guess in a way if you really think about it for the 2023 date, it still technically has the issue of 30 years because there is a possibility that it could be 30 years later, but not directly/exactly 30 years. Specifically a possibility of that 30 years still being something like 32-33 years, but still in that 30 year category.
21:18 You're missing the point. Scott doesn't like giving simple answers to important information. Him giving answers for the little questions we've been asking since the first game is a huge gesture.
Ralph will forever be called Phone Guy
Phone guy being called "Ralph" (??!!?!!!!?!11/?!?!?!?) is more vilainous than anything Afton could ever hope to do.
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I suggest calling him Ralphone Guy
@ I approve this suggestion 👍
Yay finally we got another fnaf theory. It’s been a while since we had a fnaf theory
Does anyone want to play Gacha life with me