🤣🤣 hey now~ you can tell her, "nooo, this youtuber cuts the drying part out~" 😂😂 btw, i dont think i'm the best at these comparisons. i'll be rolling out more comparisons so feel free to use your superhero power of concise expressiveness to correct me or share your opinions 😉🥰
Thanks for including White Nights. I am a beginner and they are very cheap over here. So I started with a 24 full pan Sonnet pallet and added colors by buying the 10 ml tubes. They are ~3€ here.
What a wonderful video and comparison. I never realised the tones are so different amongst the PV15. I rarely use it as I always mix my purples, but it occasionaly goes in the mixes for granulation. :) It's beautiful.
thank you Lanaaa~ and riiiiight? it was fascinating to me too as i hadn't really swatched them side by side til this vid. and yessss, me too, i tend to use it for granulation 😚
@@PaintinHiding yes, these small differences are only visible when swatching side by side, but they can influence the paintings. It's a great video! :)
oh, thank you so much! thank you for taking the time to leave a nice comment and great feedback 😊 i dont think i’ve seen you around, welcome to the channel 🥳
I just swatched Oto's Ultramarine Violet dotcard last night! I definitely think it's a low tinting strength, but it does rewet easier than some other paints like viridian. I would also call it "low coverage." I think it requires a lot of binder, and that's probably what you're noticing about White Nights. Oto sometimes has noted bubbling with certain brands, so perhaps that has to do with binder too. On my dotcard, Daniel Smith rewet horrible!! I think what DS calls Ultramarine Red is also called Ultramarine Pink in other brands, like M. Graham and Qor. On Kremer's website, they have a set of 36 different shades of ultramarine ranging from pink, to violet, to blue and green!
DS Ultramarine Red and Qor Ultramarine Pink are both PV15, MG Ultramarine Pink is PR258 and Roman Szmal Ultramarine Pink is PR259, but I think they're all in the same red-violet color area.
@@everartokelli Thanks for the clarification! You know, I had my swatchcard of the M. Graham Ultramarine Pink marked PR 258 as well, which I believe I got from the website/color chart, but I looked at the tube just now and it says PR 259. The M. Graham appears exactly the same hue to my eye as the Qor PV 15 version (although I only have a dotcard swatch of that one). I also have a handmade pan from Dan Barrett, also PR 259 and it's a more saturated true pink than the other two, a "cleaner" shade. But weirdly, it goes white when you layer it.
low coverage sounds good! yeah, i never quite know the right words to use. thank you 😊 i think ur DA rewet horrible probably because it’s a small dot and mega dried before it got to u. ooohh maybe i’ll have to do an ultrmarine red and ultramarine pink comparison. i have this DS one and roman szmal ult pink 😆
I *have* noticed that White Nights granulating colours have a funny ... weirdness to them. They were my first real paints after a small Cotman set, and I have just assumed I don't like granulating colours. I have started replacing the White Night's colours I don't care for with brands I prefer and just reusing the pans that came with the set. I have their earlier multi-pigment siennas and umbers and their yellow ochre.
I have Schmincke`s and White Nights`s. The White Nights one I don`t like, and Schmincke`s I absolutely love, `cause it`s a lovely blue tone violet (much bluer, I`d say, than all of these), with beautiful granulation and so easy to rewet. it`s a mix of PV15 and PB29, but it`s a great mixing colour, too. From the swatches I like the look of DaVinci and Mijello, although I am not too keen on violets.. I`ve found the only two I like is this Schmincke`s one, because it`s bluer than dioxazine, and Rose of Ultramarine, from the red leaning ones. Thank you for the comparison))
do u have the pan or tube of white nights? and what dont u like about it, the hue? i have the white nights in tube and dont like the consistency. i think i'd like it if it was pan. oooohh i'll need to go see youtube for swatches of that schmincke one, sounds lovely! 😄
@@PaintinHiding well, I had to try it to remind myself, and actually the texture is much better than I remember it. It is harder to reactivate, the hue reminds me of a low tint PV23 and I just rarely reached for it, but I don`t think there`s anything wrong with it otherwise. The Schmincke one I find unique in hue and I didn`t know I`d like it so much))
@@LowKey_izildura i think i know what u mean. i have that feeling with white nights too. sometimes it’s fine, but sometimes the texture is weird. the fact that u have it in pan makes me think for sure now that their pan formula is better.
The Mjello looks so different on the second swatch - is it on the same paper? I find granulation shows so much better on cotton paper. Lately I have been using Qor, which granulates less than others.
yes, it’s on the same type of paper. i think paper texture also shows granulation different. while the paper in my swatch vids aren’t cotton, they perform well in that they show granulation and colour separation well. and if it shows on non-cotton paper, then it’ll be even better on cotton. that’s been my experience at least.
@@PaintinHiding Yes, I agree. And I guess it goes to show how important the application is when you want separation and granulation (or if you don't.) Granulation occurs when the pigments flow over wet paper, so I find it helpful to tilt my paper when I want it. I recently bought Schmincke French Ultramarine and notice that the granulation is completely controllable - you can get a smooth wash or wonderful granulation depending on how you apply. The Schmincke Cobalt Blue Deep is exactly the same hue, but granulates uncontrollably. Fun stuff :)
Mijellos looks beautiful! Do you have any experience with Shinhan's ultramarine violet as well? I was hoping to see a video comparing its performance to others and i wanna know if it tops Mijello's granulation and pigment
hey jean~ :) i used to have a pan of shinhan's ult violet. i never compared it side by side with mijello but i remember that, on its own, shinhan's does granulate and also shows up in mixes nicely. it doesn't have the two-tone granulation mijello has that i mentioned in this vid.
@@PaintinHidingthank u sm!! I was also wondering if it's the same in vibrancy?? Or if it's more like white nights where the granulation appeared a bit muddy. I appreciate ur input on this as it's hard to find information about this particular color online :')
@@jeanling6985 vibrancy matches mijello. honestly, these days i only buy either mijello or shinhan's ult violet. i use them interchangeably and i buy whichever goes on sale, haha.
May I ask when is the stock of White Nights bought since I heard Kimberly Crick said that WN improved their formula. Has anyone here bought a new stock of WN?
I experienced the gumminess the first time i used the ultramarine violet with a small round brush no. 2. Subsequently, i used a no 6 brush (Princeton Heritage), and it painted more normally (less gummy) I think the gumminess sometimes may be due to some binder separation which may be worst when we start using a new tube?
their PY40 cobalt yellow granulates beautifully, PR209 quin cherry red is one im looking to get if/when i finish my daniel smith quin coral of same pigment, their PV102 cobalt violet brilliant light is heavenly but sadly discontinued, i like their single pigment PB29, one of the most granulating ult blues that i have, i love their PB36 cobalt green deep. it’s kinda like regular cobalt turquoise but a tiny bit darker. then there are PBr29 vandyke brown deep and PBk27 cobalt black that i’ve tried on dots and want to get tubes of one day.
I think you might have used slightly dirty/brown water, because all the swatches look brownish in the diluted area, and I have some of these colours and they don’t look like this to me 😅 As for white nights, I agree with the “gummy”/awkward feeling of the granulation. I don’t know quite how to describe it, but I agree, there’s definitely _something_ a bit odd about it!
I see the yellow-brown haze effect in plenty of videos dealing with Ultramarine red/pink. It's probably a combination of low pigment tinting strength and yellow-brown vehicle.
Good paper is so important to show off the granulation of ultramarine violets, cobalts--really all granulating paints! I use PV15 & PR233 in skies and landscapes, as I like the (much maligned on TH-cam) "low tinting strength" colors a lot, they do so much work in skies, landscapes and urban sketching either on their own or mixing on the paper with other colors for creating natural textures. Thanks for sharing your swatches, love comparisons :)
i use PV15 in my skies too! and i agree, low tinting colours are so important because they enable use to skew a colour towards a different colour temperature by the tiniest bit without going overboard. magic! haha~ you’re welcome! more comparisons coming your way. although not a wide selection like this one ;P
@@monsoon_magic2874 i tried mijello's PY40 on a dot card and yes, that one did granulate. i have two mijello dot card swatch video that shows close ups and scans. just search "mijello dot" in my channel and the vids should come up :)
@@monsoon_magic2874 they are indeed. if the mijello one wasn't so insanely expensive, i'd definitely grab it since it's sold locally here. i can't remember exactly but it's something like 6x the price of series A. anyway, i think schmincke might have a granulating yellow as well called volcano yellow
Good comparison video. This is one of my favorite colors, and I use Daniel Smith for this one. Not a big deal, but please remember to turn off your autofocus on the camera. It was distracting.
The name Mineral Violet sounds like PV 16, manganese violet, which has a reputation for drying out or separating in tubes of multiple brands and also in oils.
My wife noticed me watching this vid , her comment "are you watching paint dry again"?🤣
🤣🤣 hey now~ you can tell her, "nooo, this youtuber cuts the drying part out~" 😂😂 btw, i dont think i'm the best at these comparisons. i'll be rolling out more comparisons so feel free to use your superhero power of concise expressiveness to correct me or share your opinions 😉🥰
never really thought of it like that, but wow, i have spent many hours watching paint dry
Thank you Vee for the time you spent comparing so many colors. It's helpful 😌
hi Laura 😊 im glad you find them helpful 🥰
Thanks for including White Nights. I am a beginner and they are very cheap over here. So I started with a 24 full pan Sonnet pallet and added colors by buying the 10 ml tubes. They are ~3€ here.
And no matter that you pay for murder.
I'm learning a lot on your channel, and your close up swatch action always give me the wooooooow 🥺 that's so pretty.
thank you so much bleu!
I'm using the Blockx PV15. It's a bluer shade that neutralises yellow into a grey, which is an option I like having in my palette. ☺️
nice!!! it’s so cool to know how different brands have just the slightest difference 😆
@@PaintinHiding Agreed! ☺️
What a wonderful video and comparison. I never realised the tones are so different amongst the PV15. I rarely use it as I always mix my purples, but it occasionaly goes in the mixes for granulation. :) It's beautiful.
thank you Lanaaa~ and riiiiight? it was fascinating to me too as i hadn't really swatched them side by side til this vid. and yessss, me too, i tend to use it for granulation 😚
@@PaintinHiding yes, these small differences are only visible when swatching side by side, but they can influence the paintings. It's a great video! :)
Nice introduction to a new-to-me color. Thanks. Video was the perfect length.
oh, thank you so much! thank you for taking the time to leave a nice comment and great feedback 😊 i dont think i’ve seen you around, welcome to the channel 🥳
I just swatched Oto's Ultramarine Violet dotcard last night! I definitely think it's a low tinting strength, but it does rewet easier than some other paints like viridian. I would also call it "low coverage." I think it requires a lot of binder, and that's probably what you're noticing about White Nights. Oto sometimes has noted bubbling with certain brands, so perhaps that has to do with binder too. On my dotcard, Daniel Smith rewet horrible!! I think what DS calls Ultramarine Red is also called Ultramarine Pink in other brands, like M. Graham and Qor.
On Kremer's website, they have a set of 36 different shades of ultramarine ranging from pink, to violet, to blue and green!
DS Ultramarine Red and Qor Ultramarine Pink are both PV15, MG Ultramarine Pink is PR258 and Roman Szmal Ultramarine Pink is PR259, but I think they're all in the same red-violet color area.
@@everartokelli Thanks for the clarification! You know, I had my swatchcard of the M. Graham Ultramarine Pink marked PR 258 as well, which I believe I got from the website/color chart, but I looked at the tube just now and it says PR 259.
The M. Graham appears exactly the same hue to my eye as the Qor PV 15 version (although I only have a dotcard swatch of that one). I also have a handmade pan from Dan Barrett, also PR 259 and it's a more saturated true pink than the other two, a "cleaner" shade. But weirdly, it goes white when you layer it.
low coverage sounds good! yeah, i never quite know the right words to use. thank you 😊 i think ur DA rewet horrible probably because it’s a small dot and mega dried before it got to u. ooohh maybe i’ll have to do an ultrmarine red and ultramarine pink comparison. i have this DS one and roman szmal ult pink 😆
@@everartokelli I can not find any color on the MG Chart that says PR258 or PR259. Could this have been changed?
Yes, it seems the M Graham Ultramarine Pink is now PV15, I have an old tube.
I *have* noticed that White Nights granulating colours have a funny ... weirdness to them. They were my first real paints after a small Cotman set, and I have just assumed I don't like granulating colours. I have started replacing the White Night's colours I don't care for with brands I prefer and just reusing the pans that came with the set. I have their earlier multi-pigment siennas and umbers and their yellow ochre.
I love this colour! I only have the White Nights one so far but really like the look of the Mijello :-)
do u have the tube or pan one? i feel like im not a big fan of the consistency of the tube. maybe the pan is better. yes! i love the mijello one 😊
@@PaintinHiding I have the pan 🙂
I have Schmincke`s and White Nights`s. The White Nights one I don`t like, and Schmincke`s I absolutely love, `cause it`s a lovely blue tone violet (much bluer, I`d say, than all of these), with beautiful granulation and so easy to rewet. it`s a mix of PV15 and PB29, but it`s a great mixing colour, too. From the swatches I like the look of DaVinci and Mijello, although I am not too keen on violets.. I`ve found the only two I like is this Schmincke`s one, because it`s bluer than dioxazine, and Rose of Ultramarine, from the red leaning ones. Thank you for the comparison))
do u have the pan or tube of white nights? and what dont u like about it, the hue? i have the white nights in tube and dont like the consistency. i think i'd like it if it was pan. oooohh i'll need to go see youtube for swatches of that schmincke one, sounds lovely! 😄
@@PaintinHiding well, I had to try it to remind myself, and actually the texture is much better than I remember it. It is harder to reactivate, the hue reminds me of a low tint PV23 and I just rarely reached for it, but I don`t think there`s anything wrong with it otherwise. The Schmincke one I find unique in hue and I didn`t know I`d like it so much))
@@PaintinHiding Oh, sorry, I have a pan of WN
@@LowKey_izildura i think i know what u mean. i have that feeling with white nights too. sometimes it’s fine, but sometimes the texture is weird. the fact that u have it in pan makes me think for sure now that their pan formula is better.
@@PaintinHidingmaybe the pan is a better option.. Still, you`re right, it is a bit *gummy.
The Mjello looks so different on the second swatch - is it on the same paper? I find granulation shows so much better on cotton paper. Lately I have been using Qor, which granulates less than others.
yes, it’s on the same type of paper. i think paper texture also shows granulation different. while the paper in my swatch vids aren’t cotton, they perform well in that they show granulation and colour separation well. and if it shows on non-cotton paper, then it’ll be even better on cotton. that’s been my experience at least.
@@PaintinHiding Yes, I agree. And I guess it goes to show how important the application is when you want separation and granulation (or if you don't.) Granulation occurs when the pigments flow over wet paper, so I find it helpful to tilt my paper when I want it. I recently bought Schmincke French Ultramarine and notice that the granulation is completely controllable - you can get a smooth wash or wonderful granulation depending on how you apply. The Schmincke Cobalt Blue Deep is exactly the same hue, but granulates uncontrollably. Fun stuff :)
Mijellos looks beautiful! Do you have any experience with Shinhan's ultramarine violet as well? I was hoping to see a video comparing its performance to others and i wanna know if it tops Mijello's granulation and pigment
hey jean~ :) i used to have a pan of shinhan's ult violet. i never compared it side by side with mijello but i remember that, on its own, shinhan's does granulate and also shows up in mixes nicely. it doesn't have the two-tone granulation mijello has that i mentioned in this vid.
@@PaintinHidingthank u sm!! I was also wondering if it's the same in vibrancy?? Or if it's more like white nights where the granulation appeared a bit muddy. I appreciate ur input on this as it's hard to find information about this particular color online :')
Additionally, of all the swatches, which would u say it was the most similar to??
@@jeanling6985 vibrancy matches mijello. honestly, these days i only buy either mijello or shinhan's ult violet. i use them interchangeably and i buy whichever goes on sale, haha.
@@jeanling6985 probably W&N. it's a very standard ult violet. neither warm nor cool. :)
I use the Schmicke one and love it but I would say it leans even more blue then these ones.
oh thanks for your input Farb! :D
@@PaintinHiding your very welcome :D
May I ask when is the stock of White Nights bought since I heard Kimberly Crick said that WN improved their formula. Has anyone here bought a new stock of WN?
hmm probably 2020? i'm not sure
@@PaintinHiding I see.. thank you!
I experienced the gumminess the first time i used the ultramarine violet with a small round brush no. 2. Subsequently, i used a no 6 brush (Princeton Heritage), and it painted more normally (less gummy)
I think the gumminess sometimes may be due to some binder separation which may be worst when we start using a new tube?
it's just white nights' formula because the gumminess isn't just with this PV15 and not a binder separation issue.
Thanks for the Mission Gold recommendation for this color! Are there in your opinion any other colors that are specially good in this brand?
their PY40 cobalt yellow granulates beautifully, PR209 quin cherry red is one im looking to get if/when i finish my daniel smith quin coral of same pigment, their PV102 cobalt violet brilliant light is heavenly but sadly discontinued, i like their single pigment PB29, one of the most granulating ult blues that i have, i love their PB36 cobalt green deep. it’s kinda like regular cobalt turquoise but a tiny bit darker. then there are PBr29 vandyke brown deep and PBk27 cobalt black that i’ve tried on dots and want to get tubes of one day.
@@PaintinHiding thanks a lot! ^^
@@GemukiDev you're welcome! 🥰
I think you might have used slightly dirty/brown water, because all the swatches look brownish in the diluted area, and I have some of these colours and they don’t look like this to me 😅
As for white nights, I agree with the “gummy”/awkward feeling of the granulation. I don’t know quite how to describe it, but I agree, there’s definitely _something_ a bit odd about it!
I see the yellow-brown haze effect in plenty of videos dealing with Ultramarine red/pink. It's probably a combination of low pigment tinting strength and yellow-brown vehicle.
Davinci's version is much more intense than others. My favourite pv15.
yes! it feels like a regular moderate tinting colour 👍🏻 thank u for watching and commenting 🥰
It looks goosed with PV23.
Good paper is so important to show off the granulation of ultramarine violets, cobalts--really all granulating paints! I use PV15 & PR233 in skies and landscapes, as I like the (much maligned on TH-cam) "low tinting strength" colors a lot, they do so much work in skies, landscapes and urban sketching either on their own or mixing on the paper with other colors for creating natural textures. Thanks for sharing your swatches, love comparisons :)
i use PV15 in my skies too! and i agree, low tinting colours are so important because they enable use to skew a colour towards a different colour temperature by the tiniest bit without going overboard. magic! haha~ you’re welcome! more comparisons coming your way. although not a wide selection like this one ;P
Does Cobalt yellow PY40 granulate as well?
@@monsoon_magic2874 i tried mijello's PY40 on a dot card and yes, that one did granulate. i have two mijello dot card swatch video that shows close ups and scans. just search "mijello dot" in my channel and the vids should come up :)
@@PaintinHiding Thanks. Granulating yellows are so hard to come by.
@@monsoon_magic2874 they are indeed. if the mijello one wasn't so insanely expensive, i'd definitely grab it since it's sold locally here. i can't remember exactly but it's something like 6x the price of series A. anyway, i think schmincke might have a granulating yellow as well called volcano yellow
Is this video about PV23 or PV15? The title says PV23 but the swatches are PV15.
thank you for letting me know! just changed it! 🙈👍🏻
@@PaintinHiding Thanks 👍🏼
Good comparison video. This is one of my favorite colors, and I use Daniel Smith for this one. Not a big deal, but please remember to turn off your autofocus on the camera. It was distracting.
First!
i hereby award you with the First medal 🥇😁
Oh, yaaaay! I never won anything on TH-cam; I’m so happy I can just wax poetic 🥹
@@awatercolourist 🤣🤣🤣
FYR….avoid M Graham Mineral Violet PV 15, my tube become like a stone.
The name Mineral Violet sounds like PV 16, manganese violet, which has a reputation for drying out or separating in tubes of multiple brands and also in oils.
@@syrinx9196 Thank you.