A T100 would be a good first bike, that you could still ride 20 years later. A Speed Triple is for when you just need this kind of therapy. I had a ZX14R, and that's for people with a mental problem or land speed racers, lol. Funny thing about power though of equal CC motors; I did a comparison last night of Suzuki GSXR1000's from 2005 until now. On the spec sheet, you'll see a horsepower increase every few years, but when you really analyze how they're getting it, you'll realize, there isn't any more power than they made 20 years ago, they've just figured out how to increase the redline. Make the same torque, but spin the crank faster, and voila! You've got more horsepower on a spec sheet. I then compared it to what's considered the hottest bike out now, the Ducati Panigale V4, and it's the same thing. There's no more power other than RPM. Now the drawback to this other than the end of the straightaway on a racetrack, is that we are almost never at redline. Stoplight to stoplight we're somewhere from low RPM to the middle to mid-high. As I went through each year, I saw the max torque stay very close to the same, but it moved up in the RPM range substantially. Now you've got to rev the engine up another 2,500-3,000 rpm to get to the same torque you had before. There's just no great way to make any more naturally aspirated power than they already were, other than increasing the displacement or RPM. The total power is more important than peak power, meaning the power from idle right up until you normally shift into another gear. I just got a Scrambler 1200. You'd think 89hp is a slow bike if you went by the peak HP spec, yet this bike wants to pull your arms off on acceleration. It's so powerful but redline is around 7,500, so you'll never see big numbers on a spec sheet. My point is, a bike like the Speed Triple, although considered "low on power" compared to the spec sheets of other Streetfighter type bikes, isn't actually low on power. It's just got the power moved down into the range where more people will use it. So it's still absolutely going to feel fast. I owned an Aprilia Tuono too with 175hp. My 89hp Scrambler makes more power up to 7,500rpm than that Aprilia did. We so rarely get to use peak power. An interesting thing is that due to Euro 5 restrictions, sometimes they actually make less power with the newer models, but they've got to up the RPM to make it look like they didn't. My 2 cents on things anyway. Want more power, get a bigger CC motor. Otherwise, just chose a bike with the power in the range you'll use it most often, IMO.
Wouldn’t be the best idea, but out of all the bikes in the super naked category it’s probably the best choice compared to the BMW s1000r or the KTM 1290 superduke.
Street triple is a horrible choice for a first bike. It revs forever and that is irresistible. New riders will die on that bike. Your first bike should be one you hate, maybe a small cruiser, used and cheap. For new riders the biggest challenge is learning how to stay alive in traffic, how not to drop the bike in a parking lot, how to look through a turn. Get a cheap used bike with a small engine. It will sell for what you paid for it three months later, even if you drop it. Then get a SV-650 or something for the rest of the year. A Street Triple can hit 150. A Speed Triple can far exceed lethal speeds in a city block (0-60 same as Tesla P-90D in Ludicrous). New riders need to learn to judge distances, turn, and stop before they inevitably get tempted to try out that kind of performance. After about 10 years off of bikes I got a Suzuki Boulevard 800 for the summer to re-sharpen my skills. So glad I did. city highways are information dense environments. It's easy to get overwhelmed. That was 7-8 years ago. I've had lots of fast bikes since, today a Street Triple R among others, but that slow Suzuki re-taught me the traffic basics that have kept me alive so far.
A T100 would be a good first bike, that you could still ride 20 years later. A Speed Triple is for when you just need this kind of therapy. I had a ZX14R, and that's for people with a mental problem or land speed racers, lol. Funny thing about power though of equal CC motors; I did a comparison last night of Suzuki GSXR1000's from 2005 until now. On the spec sheet, you'll see a horsepower increase every few years, but when you really analyze how they're getting it, you'll realize, there isn't any more power than they made 20 years ago, they've just figured out how to increase the redline. Make the same torque, but spin the crank faster, and voila! You've got more horsepower on a spec sheet. I then compared it to what's considered the hottest bike out now, the Ducati Panigale V4, and it's the same thing. There's no more power other than RPM. Now the drawback to this other than the end of the straightaway on a racetrack, is that we are almost never at redline. Stoplight to stoplight we're somewhere from low RPM to the middle to mid-high. As I went through each year, I saw the max torque stay very close to the same, but it moved up in the RPM range substantially. Now you've got to rev the engine up another 2,500-3,000 rpm to get to the same torque you had before. There's just no great way to make any more naturally aspirated power than they already were, other than increasing the displacement or RPM. The total power is more important than peak power, meaning the power from idle right up until you normally shift into another gear. I just got a Scrambler 1200. You'd think 89hp is a slow bike if you went by the peak HP spec, yet this bike wants to pull your arms off on acceleration. It's so powerful but redline is around 7,500, so you'll never see big numbers on a spec sheet. My point is, a bike like the Speed Triple, although considered "low on power" compared to the spec sheets of other Streetfighter type bikes, isn't actually low on power. It's just got the power moved down into the range where more people will use it. So it's still absolutely going to feel fast. I owned an Aprilia Tuono too with 175hp. My 89hp Scrambler makes more power up to 7,500rpm than that Aprilia did. We so rarely get to use peak power. An interesting thing is that due to Euro 5 restrictions, sometimes they actually make less power with the newer models, but they've got to up the RPM to make it look like they didn't. My 2 cents on things anyway. Want more power, get a bigger CC motor. Otherwise, just chose a bike with the power in the range you'll use it most often, IMO.
Haha, the Speed Triple was my first bike, except it was a 2013 model with no ABS or traction control. ;)
Nice! must have been scary.....
it is essential to get the proper tires pressure for ur weight coz it is different than gis 320 pounds. also the suspension setup too.
Elie Nehme Ya his suspension might as well have been iron bars it was so tight. Tires were just flattened out from wear.
our local dealer hasa new 2015 1050 r less than 11.900.00 seams like a good deal. after your review I'm impressed.
yep thats a steal!
Wouldn’t be the best idea, but out of all the bikes in the super naked category it’s probably the best choice compared to the BMW s1000r or the KTM 1290 superduke.
Street triple is a better choice for first bike.
For sure
Street triple is a horrible choice for a first bike. It revs forever and that is irresistible. New riders will die on that bike.
Your first bike should be one you hate, maybe a small cruiser, used and cheap. For new riders the biggest challenge is learning how to stay alive in traffic, how not to drop the bike in a parking lot, how to look through a turn. Get a cheap used bike with a small engine. It will sell for what you paid for it three months later, even if you drop it.
Then get a SV-650 or something for the rest of the year. A Street Triple can hit 150. A Speed Triple can far exceed lethal speeds in a city block (0-60 same as Tesla P-90D in Ludicrous). New riders need to learn to judge distances, turn, and stop before they inevitably get tempted to try out that kind of performance.
After about 10 years off of bikes I got a Suzuki Boulevard 800 for the summer to re-sharpen my skills. So glad I did. city highways are information dense environments. It's easy to get overwhelmed. That was 7-8 years ago. I've had lots of fast bikes since, today a Street Triple R among others, but that slow Suzuki re-taught me the traffic basics that have kept me alive so far.
Why not get the best first?
Speedie as your 1st bike? Ha ha ha. I sold a liter bike to a Newbie 20yr old. 2wks later...dead.