How this old wreck rescued my Ferrari and saved me from a massive bill!

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  • I'd been struggling with a strange misfire since I rebuilt the engine on the InfluEnzo. My only option seemed to be to buy new ignition parts to try and solve the problem.. then this old Ferrari 308 came to the rescue and allowed me to swap parts and diagnose the problem for free!
    FULL INFLUENZO EPISODE LIST: • InfluEnzo - Ferrari 30...

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  • @cheftush
    @cheftush 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I’m so happy that you found the problem. Persistence pays off!

  • @efremkiel8798
    @efremkiel8798 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When you're done and finished with the influenzo you're going to be the leading 308 guy in the UK 🤌🏻😎😄

  • @jtothepmusic
    @jtothepmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    'I got quite excited when I came out of McDonalds because it looked like the Influenzo had been stolen!' haha!

    • @GenaF
      @GenaF 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I chuckled at Jack, with the smile he had.

    • @amrs1960
      @amrs1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      reminded me of some people I know in New York who used to take their Jag XJ6 to the rough end of the Bronx and leave the keys in it in the hope it would be stolen but it never was

  • @HitsHangerMusic
    @HitsHangerMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’ve never actually cheered out loud for a youtuber but I’m so glad it’s finally fixed! Well done mate!

  • @shieldaigbencher
    @shieldaigbencher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’m going to have another look at the carbs he says whilst eating a McDonalds.

    • @johnsvensson6540
      @johnsvensson6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He definitely meant “taste”

    • @TonyRule
      @TonyRule 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I missed that haha

    • @denzbeanz2
      @denzbeanz2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very clever. Don't look to close at McDonald's Carbs. Probably quite high and fattening

  • @andrewgurney6019
    @andrewgurney6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well done Jack, and congratulations on finding the issues yourself, makes it even more rewarding..
    Influenzo Up for sale soon ? sad to see her go! Hope the Lotus is getting better

  • @marcotinnirello6010
    @marcotinnirello6010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    “It feels like a Ferrari”. Magical words, and we’re all delighted for you. Hate to say it, but a swap of all the electrical again now with the other car would be useful and maybe able to help you now carb issue is out of the way. It’s got to be worth a try, surely? Good luck!

  • @benzina5917
    @benzina5917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Congratulations on the carb discovery and fair play to you for admitting the mistake. It happens to all of us. On the Weber carbs the running from off-idle to 3000 rpm is handled by the idle jets (yes I know it sounds counter-intuitive). The jet options from the factory are wrong for present times because modern fuels are not as potent as they were back then. This normally necessitates larger jets for proper running. After extensive testing with O2 sensors in the exhaust I have found 53 idle jets to work best. They are a little harder to find but they are just that bit crisper on acceleration to the 55 jets and the 50's tend to be too lean.

    • @gailtaylor1636
      @gailtaylor1636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent info! I'm waaaaay too invested in this channel. These types of diagnosis can be really frustrating but also very satisfying when you nail it.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you!! I do have 55s but want to cure the slight miss I’ve still got before trying them..

    • @brianflynn2647
      @brianflynn2647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Number27 A miss or a flat spot ? A flat spot will be exasperated, by running lean , so maybe go straight for the 55’s you have until you find 53’s , and perhaps it’ll magically work out ?

    • @haroldgodwinson832
      @haroldgodwinson832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't have a Ferrari but I do have twin DCOEs on my car. One thing I've come to realize, over time, is there's no substitute for a really good Weber guy, with a dyno. There are so many possible combinations with Weber carbs that getting it just right without a dyno, and someone who actually understands Webers, (and such people are now few and far between) is extremely difficult to achieve.

    • @mikemccaffrey3093
      @mikemccaffrey3093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idle jets are critical, and my experiments say the jump from 50 to 55 is huge. I like the idea of 53. You can get jets from alfa1750 on eBay. Any size you want. I use O2 sensors on each side of my flat 6. LHS wants 60 idles, RHS wants 62 idles. It is just the variation between the two 51 year old Zeniths demanding a slightly different spec. My point being: yes! Change the jets to account for today’s fuels.

  • @FelixIsMyName
    @FelixIsMyName 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Jack, the Car Wizard is restoring a 308 on his channel. He's swapped the dual rotors for an electronic ignition, would this not be a better solution for you use with your own car?

    • @michaelhawkins5530
      @michaelhawkins5530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I agree with Dan, and I am also watching the Wizards work on his 308. I believe the Wizard is definitely on the right track by eliminating the distributors completely. I believe Jack needs to do the same thing.

    • @graham6229
      @graham6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@AREA_RC-51 Dont be so rude. You don't even know him . And what does bro mean ?

    • @Z4NL
      @Z4NL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The car ‘wizard’ never shows how things are done except tallying up the always very high bill.

    • @graham6229
      @graham6229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Z4NL Don't watch it then

    • @BlueTrane2028
      @BlueTrane2028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Z4NL I only seem to remember the Wizard talking about bills with Tyler Hoover, who clearly has no problem with what he's charging him. Could be the numbers are padded for entertainment, furthering Tyler's "the dumbest channel on TH-cam" claim.

  • @organiccold
    @organiccold 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Wow Jack, finally good news. That wasn't an easy one, mow some fine tunning and will be spot on. Now it sounds nice. Some people say they are slow, but they are still faster than most of the cars around.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks you Inacio, hope you had a great weekend and thanks for watching!

    • @jeffreyb.1657
      @jeffreyb.1657 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @bobmcl2406
      @bobmcl2406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      People who complain that old cars are "slow" are missing the point. Sure, any modern family sedan probably will leave the 308 in the dust, but they have NO SOUL.

    • @TubeBrowser2
      @TubeBrowser2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bobmcl2406 Exactly it's the "way" they go, not how fast they go. Nothing like a high revving manual trans carbed flat plane V8 10 inches behind you.

    • @organiccold
      @organiccold 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Number27 will not miss it for anything ;)

  • @HomeBuiltByJeff
    @HomeBuiltByJeff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Congratulations mate. The joy of finally finding the issue is much sweeter because of the hardships along the way.

  • @Lasercapri
    @Lasercapri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice one Jack always something simple just out of interest how old is the petrol and what petrol do you use ? As I would try a tank full of Esso Super 99 👍

  • @pauln0371
    @pauln0371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bloody carbs.. lol

  • @lenhornsey2175
    @lenhornsey2175 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe go even better if you take your foot off that clutch pedal ..... and no, I'm not being sarcastic or pithy or critical ....I have seen the results of this and it's expensive .... I've watched everyone of your vids and can only applaud you for taking this project on and I am truly happy when you achieve success .... I'm rooting for you

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Len and I’ll watch the clutch!

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Although I’m only watching, I felt almost as much excitement as you did! 😁 You’re doing great 👍

  • @SteveDentonClassics
    @SteveDentonClassics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7000 rpm, that's where you need it!! Well done mate, we're all human, and it's good to make mistakes. You only learn if you make a mistake, and you got to the route of the problem and now your Ferrari runs like it should. Nice one Jack!

  • @furzedefur
    @furzedefur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You are a testimonial to perseverance! Well spotted in the end, you deserved the relief

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice one,when it’s your fault it’s the best as you don’t need to spend more money on parts.Maybe a new electronic ignition system may help.🤨

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Micheal, enjoy the sun ☀️!!

  • @gjmob
    @gjmob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an older mechanic it worries me when someone goes out and thrashes an engine that isn't running correctly, as if it is a fuel starvation/lean mixture on a carb it will cause detonation and melted pistons or even just piston rings losing their tension from the high cylinder temperature. Thrashing an engine to try and fix it is known as a Wharfie Tune Up, as they are as rough as guts.

  • @tonywillans7556
    @tonywillans7556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:19 old Ferrari's have an anti theft system built in...they break down every 5 minutes.

  • @FoxSpeedshop
    @FoxSpeedshop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @number27 weve all been there hoping a car we are struggling with has been nicked lol

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha!! Yes.. I was fed up that day!!

  • @39PSIOnTheDaily
    @39PSIOnTheDaily 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jack, it’s so infectious to see you smile from the results! Congratulations my man! 🙌🏻

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Steve!!

  • @discogodfather22
    @discogodfather22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've put venturi's in backwards in DCOE's as well, it's an easy and super confusing mistake. Congrats! I learned much from Ian Tyrell tuning the webers, he is a great source of information. It's like tuning a wind instrument for sure. When it spins at 7k and you get that amazing noise out of the induction, it's all worth it.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Chris!! Car is sounding good now!

  • @ba2724
    @ba2724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Light at the end of the tunnel!! Your global family is very happy for you, and we're excited that you will fine tune the engine in short order for maximum performance and fun!! Bravo, good sir!

  • @Golo1949
    @Golo1949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need DiagnoseDan to take a look at it, he is the best and no I'm not him!

  • @strongbowism
    @strongbowism 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done Jack. Things are looking up with the Influenzo.
    Great looking car the 308. Hopefully you can start to enjoy this Italian Beauty at long last.

  • @siwells8162
    @siwells8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha!you have made my day!!Congratulations!Perseverance should be the new name for her.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Si!!

  • @malcolmscott4150
    @malcolmscott4150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the 308 content and great work - Car Wizard in USA is restoring a 308 similar vintage and some good ideas there like converting the ignition system and new fuse box - you’re doing a great job and as these are my favourite Ferrari hanging out for the next vid 👍

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saw that and am in touch with him!! Thanks buddy!

  • @Jez2008UK
    @Jez2008UK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm soooooo pleased you fixed this yourself and didn't take the easy option like you suggested in your previous video (of taking it to Harry's garage) - I had every confidence in you that you'd solve this all by yourself and your smile says it all. Well done to you and your new moustache!

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Jez!!

  • @richarddarsa6353
    @richarddarsa6353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Praise the lord! Sounds great, the car is brilliant! - but I'd bet your carb setup isn't 100% just yet. There are hundreds of components to the carbs so keep digging, another school boy error is in there somewhere. Did you see the car wizard is doing one on YT too. Very addictive viewing - thanks!

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did see he is doing a 308 and am in touch with him!!

    • @richarddarsa6353
      @richarddarsa6353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Number27 He is so knowledgeable - but I think you are closer to the winning line than him! Best of luck getting rid of the gremlins.

  • @marcmessmer317
    @marcmessmer317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant! So happy for you Jack. 👏👏

  • @maxakarudy
    @maxakarudy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try a colour tune spark plug to see combustion

  • @Ninakoklahombi
    @Ninakoklahombi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations!!🍾 what a great feeling! I look forward to the final tune.

  • @Number27
    @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    NEXT EPISODE: th-cam.com/video/cBHSAPHvNtM/w-d-xo.html
    FULL EPISODE LIST: th-cam.com/play/PL-JmG4958QS8v5Bn2lol3bm8YQ4UNRstU.html

    • @nunomc2815
      @nunomc2815 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Admire your courage, mate. Seriously, no irony here ! Since we’re not rich, these sources of joy also have the capacity to bankrupt us, emotionally speaking…good luck !

    • @nunomc2815
      @nunomc2815 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can it be any phenomena related to the ethanol on these newer fuels ? Are you using E5, E10, or ethanol free ?

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Nuno! Nice to hear from you again!!

    • @DaimlerV
      @DaimlerV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jack
      Great to see you have found the main issue, all the best with it. If you want to discuss the electronic side you know where to find me.
      Cheers
      Jon

    • @Audion
      @Audion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Car wizard just took his 308 to electronic ignition.
      th-cam.com/video/v2Jz3-VEoTI/w-d-xo.html

  • @shckltnebay
    @shckltnebay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trade it for a 355 or leave the keys in it

  • @torbjornjohnsson3917
    @torbjornjohnsson3917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never give up! It pays off..Well done! 👍😀

  • @robertvsnow
    @robertvsnow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good job finding the botched carb venturi. I would suggest that such a major issue made it impossible to discern any meaningful changes while you were swapping out ignition parts. Most important is determining whether the less than optimal performance is really a misfire. Keep in mind how well it seemed to be doing at 7,000 RPM. I'd start with the carburetor jetting and then look at the distributor advance curve. Stick with it now that it's running acceptably, because the changes you make going forward should eventually bear fruit. Best of luck!

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations Jack! I always said that the two most important tools in a mechanic's toolbox are patience and persistence. You have remained an optimistic trooper, and it is paying off.

  • @alejandropereira7092
    @alejandropereira7092 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ian Tyrrell is the solution.

  • @derekdewberry21
    @derekdewberry21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jack, tell me the old girl without the front spoiler will come back to glory sometime in the future!!

  • @aimhii
    @aimhii 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Mate......Again...luv your vids...So much Gumption! You give me so much hope for my 308... BTW...I will be in London next 2 weekends...Can I buy you a Pint? St. Johns Wood Area? Not on Instagram or FB....but Telegram yes.

  • @mikedemasi4100
    @mikedemasi4100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice to see you smiling jack. Good luck with your 308.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Mike!!

  • @28adam28
    @28adam28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great news Jack! Way to stick with it. I've experience that look you had on your face when you finally found the problem. Best feeling ever.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Definitely.. it was a moment of pure joy!

  • @carlylekhan7007
    @carlylekhan7007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jack.
    Huge Congratulations that you found the problem 👏.
    Bit of fine tuning and will be Sweet.
    Greetings from Trinidad 🇹🇹. Happy Trails Mate.

  • @dmw13
    @dmw13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you looked at Car Wizards video about stripping out a 308. He talks about electronic ignition etc. It might be interesting for 308 enthusiasts.

  • @ThanaKrishnan
    @ThanaKrishnan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy for you mate.... I'm inches away to get my own but not sure if I have the guts to get something like a 328 or 308. Maybe a F430?

    • @Number27
      @Number27  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      430 is lovely.. but will cost more to keep running I think..

  • @mitchd949
    @mitchd949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jack, you're like a cat chasing your own tail. The "massive improvement" you've uncovered was due to grossly incorrect carb assembly (user error). You still have a running problem. You continue to break the basic rules of hierarchy for dealing with running problems: 1) valve adjustment, 2) ignition system (distributor, plug wires, plugs, timing), and LASTLY 3) Carb adjustment. You have NEVER fully dealt with #2!? Your title in this vid fooled me into thinking you'd do it but you're swapping old/unknown parts and ultimately didn't narrow in on any ignition issues because your earlier error with #3 had you distracted. Do like The Wizard - an actual auto mechanic - and consider upgrading to a modern ignition system such as Nick Forza's XDi system for the 308. It removes all the old stuff: distributors, coil packs, etc. $1650 USD. Please listen and deep dive into #2. I am hopeful, but I suspect the next vid we'll be hearing more about you meddling with carbs - balance, adjust, etc and you'll still be suffering running problems because you can't carb-adjust out miss firing ignition.

  • @gyurybach.geox81
    @gyurybach.geox81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Buy the other Ferrari and repair it!

  • @Jester-Riddle
    @Jester-Riddle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like an Italian Mistress ... I wonder if she will ever do exactly what you want ... !!!??? 😂
    She's certainly very 'high maintenance' ...

  • @gregmccandless3872
    @gregmccandless3872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jack, I know this is a tricky problem.. have you considered the Nicks Forza distributor replacement? Even if it does not solve the current problem, it might make the car more reliable. I saw it on Car wizard- another TH-cam channel) www.nicksforzaferrari.net/engine-management--direct-coil-ignition-systems.html

  • @ianross225
    @ianross225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always loved these and went in one as a passenger almost 40 years ago. Loved it but couldn’t afford it. I bought his 3.0 CSL instead for £1,375! My experience with carbs is that issues such as yours are around the idle/low speed circuits. Idle jets can clog easily and imperceptibly. Top end issues have tended to be around the ignition system and advance and retard systems which are mechanical. As regards the leads from your distributor to the crank pickup I’ve seen these fail on VWs and Lancias due to age and hence cracking. Looking forward to No 28: It’s running perfectly! Still won’t stop you tweaking......

  • @Sennaxm71
    @Sennaxm71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you found the problem, I said to my mrs the other day, I thought it was carb related, I'm happy I wasn't far off, my recent work on a 1979 FIAT 131 Abarth probably helped though.
    Speaking of which, how was the 308 after you balanced the carbs? Any better? I had to balance up the 45's on the FIAT, even after the rolling road guy messed about with them and hadn't got them right. It seems most places only know about injection these days.

  • @576103
    @576103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So chuffed you finally found the problem! They say that 99% of all carb problems are actually electrical, but there is always that 1%….
    Did I hear you say that you had fitted Iridium plugs? Bad idea. Iridium or platinum plugs are ‘better’ and far more expensive than regular plugs, but they are also extremely intolerant of anything apart from a perfect fuel/air mixture. They are intended only for use with modern engines whose mixture is very finely computer-controlled. Webers are fantastic, but they are only capable of a rough approximation of the proper mixture at any given RPM, load, and throttle setting. Using modern plugs will result in fouling. You may well be experiencing plug fouling at lower rpm which then clears up at higher rpm.
    Get thee to your nearest purveyor of auto parts and get the cheap, standard NKG plug which (if the internet is correct-please confirm before buying) is the BP6ES, or the BP5ES if you want to try one heat range hotter than stock. (Or the equivalent from Bosch, Champion etc). Your owners manual likely has a recommendation for the factory plug-I would start there and not deviate apart from selecting a different brand if you prefer.
    Some Ferrari forum guys have reported improvements when switching from standard to Iridium or Platinum plugs, but invariably they were replacing tired old plugs with new ones. The improvement is instantaneous but likely not long-lasting as the ‘new’ wears off and the fouling starts to set in.
    Good luck!

  • @Stealthplateblocker
    @Stealthplateblocker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yaaaaaaayyyyyyy!!!!!!! Fabulous, mate! Well done!!
    Carbs, carbs, carbs... Take it to a reputable specialist and have them set up. Especially with the idle jet swap. I swapped out to .55s and it was much better but thought I would try .60s and it was better still when I did. You need to also adjust the idle mixture screws when you do that as well, of course. You did that? I got it as good as I could, and it was pretty good, but I decided to take it and have it looked at properly. I went to Italia Autosport in West Yorkshire. It was expensive but it came back running absolutely beautifully. The linkages had been an issue which I hadn’t spotted and my balancing (despite having an air flow meter) was not well done. Now it runs like a dream...

  • @stevenmacdonald9619
    @stevenmacdonald9619 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Call............... The Car Wizard. He doesn't mess with bits. He strips the crap out of a GTB and puts the entire car back together.

  • @KnightIndustries572
    @KnightIndustries572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As much as I love the 308, it's absolutely one of the most beautiful cars of all time IMO and I've had the opportunity to drive the later 328 GTS for a couple of days (and loved it) but having looked at all these videos, it just confirms that if you want a fun, powerful low slung two seater sports car and none of the trouble, just get a Nissan 370 Z! I know I might get roasted for that but it's the reality. I know from a TH-cam point of view, the Z will not really pique much interest, but from a real life ownership point of view where your vehicle is not your channel that earns you income, it's hard to go past the Zed.
    I remember in 1990, a magazine ad for the Toyota Supra. it started off 'The dream' and there sat a beautiful Jaguar E type cabriolet, the second photo was 'the reality' E type Jag with one wheel off and the dejected owner covered in crease sitting on the ground, the third shot was 'The Solution' the smiling man standing with his beautiful bright red Supra turbo. That ad made a good point....but I love this channel which is so interesting, educational and entertaining. I hope the Influenzo gets cured!!

  • @larrychamel
    @larrychamel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy it's running better Jack but I must say... you are a glutton for punishment Mate! Best of Luck sourcing what I hope will be the Final Issue. Stay Safe and Stay Strong my friend! ❤🙏❤

  • @psircos
    @psircos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You look so happy lolololol. Just as you said "ecstatic ", the ads came on. I was gobsmacked with a mouthful of tuna crunch baguette 🤣. Sounded well good at 7k, happy for you. Its been a slog, no matter who's to blame.

  • @presstodelete1165
    @presstodelete1165 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A mistake I have made so many times myself, avoiding addressing the carbs and chasing imaginary electrical issues when all the clues are staring me in the face. I have been shouting CARBS at you for so long now. Glad you didn't give up. With fault finding remind yourself - suck, squeeze, bang, blow. Electics are the simplest to check, which you did, but then still wanted to play switcheroo to the n'th.

  • @midasracer
    @midasracer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    By accident Car Wizzard is also rebuilding a 308. The first thing he did was to rip out the standard ignition an fit and aftermaket system. You now know why he did that. Saves a lot of time troubleshooting (although apparently yours was fine).

  • @user-if8nz2yo5n
    @user-if8nz2yo5n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh! And definitely try increasing jet size. If your intake breathes well, it might be that kick in the knickers your after. If there's no improvement, increase the intake. More fuel, more air, could possibly require more spark energy. Baby steps, right.?

  • @prof_tim
    @prof_tim 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Delighted for you, Chap. What an odyssey!
    Mischievously: now that the temperamental Italian thing is running, best get rid and buy something reliable that was designed in Stuttgart ;)
    (Although tbh I reckon you’re entitled to enjoy driving the red car for a while yet, after all that work).

  • @pauljgentile
    @pauljgentile 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first time in a 308 was at a Ferrari Club day at a track here in Canada in 1986. I was a paramedic, and for insurance reasons, we needed to be on site. The members were very gracious to me, they could tell I was a Ferrari fan. At lunch time I had the opportunity to get a ride around the track with an IROC race driver. Absolutely amazing experience. The IROC guy hated the car, saying the IROC Camaros handled better. I couldn’t care what he thought, this was a Ferrari! I’ll never forget that day.

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Endless hours wasted that could have been spent on driving. Been there, but never resulting from an inadvertent error on my part! And, my last name is Murphy ¿`_ < spells MRF ¿`_

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two things I never do - eat or drive my car with dirty hands. It was bad enough when you were driving the car with soiled gloves, because there's, work gloves and then there's, driving gloves! As Biden ridiculously says... come-on man ¿`_

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Progress! Again! Your luck certainly goes from pillar to post , Jack. Suspected carbs last vid, fingers crossed more progress in a forward.motion next vid !

  • @azbababooey
    @azbababooey 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jack finally fixes the problem and brings the 308 back to life. Then grinds 2nd gear and needs to rebuild the transmission! 😂

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG...was that a happy video.....i think so...smiling while watching....even checked the time left as we got half way because we hadn't had the positive yet...i don't know whether its good or bad that you found out it was something you had 'fixed' rather than another problem. reminds me of phoning up IT support and the first question being is it plugged in?.......

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    well done, but I would like to add, does it have a power band and if so, at what RPM does it kick in!? It is always more pronounced in 1st gear, that said, does the rough running happen before that RPM? High performance cams will cause that and Ferraris are known for having high performance engines ¿`_

  • @swissarmychainsawadams9541
    @swissarmychainsawadams9541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't tell if these videos are "308 - The Joy of Ownership" or "Quattro Valvoe, a Cautionary Tale"

  • @peterushbrook5270
    @peterushbrook5270 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000 to 3000 RPM the Webers are on the idle circuit. Wouldn't be a bad idea to remove and clean the existing idle jets with carb cleaner. Also spray down into the carb bodies with the idle jets removed. Keep up the good work!!

  • @GB-vn1tf
    @GB-vn1tf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Almost there. Change the leads and get the multimeter out and check for dry soldering. I don't think you've much more to do other than make sure everything's on the right way....😬 ,at least it only cost some pride, but that's always the best lesson. I'm looking forward to the next episode as it'll hopefully be you grinning at 7000rpm!

  • @user-if8nz2yo5n
    @user-if8nz2yo5n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome chap!
    It's dirt somewhere in the intermediate circuit. Probably in the carb that you just resolved because it wasn't working properly for so long. I'm a carb guy and impurities are my (our) worst enemy! Hit those passages with fine wire and carb cleaner. You're sooo close mate!

  • @tismeDenis
    @tismeDenis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In NLP there's an understanding that there is no such thing as failure, only feedback & that's what I like about you & your video's..... you don't give up and work forward to success. Well done 👍

  • @littlepippin8445
    @littlepippin8445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jack - I finally have got my beetle to run properly after 6 months. Just got lucky, and decided to check the accelllerator pump and the small adjusting screw had come loose, and because it is out of sight i would never have known, and would never have seen, and it shouldn't be able to come loose anyway. So, the point of this boring bit of news to you, is we all just keep going and going looking for the cause of the poor running, and eventually you will get to where you want to be..!! It is actually after all the fun of the journey, and like you said " we are just amatuers" teaching ourselves new skills which is something to be so proud of. You are a Ferrari mechanic...!!

  • @conrod7
    @conrod7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It took a while number 27 - all that swapping and trying - and it was still your fault and not Ferrari's . Always best to look again at what has been taken apart and not blame other units on the car not showing signs of failure before. Will the 308 survive number 27? I hope so. I can't watch any more of your 308 shenanigans . I wish you well and please stick to Fiestas or something.

  • @buncho888
    @buncho888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve got the same DCNF Weber on my Ducati Paso. I couldn’t easily get the venturies out last time I cleaned it. I’ll keep this trap in mind next time I do!
    So glad your persistence has paid off 😁

  • @mrd4335
    @mrd4335 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had an idea last week it was the carb..? As you said it was sparking on both banks. Probably just need a fine tune now, be great if you and Iain could collaborate on a video? Would be great for both your channels?
    I really like the format of your channel, it's genuine, honist and relatable. Pleased for you.
    Paul..(:

  • @lloydielloydie821
    @lloydielloydie821 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great watch, I was a mad on classics. This brings back fond memories of my old Cortina Mk 1 1500GT - 4 door.
    A bit of rarity as most are 2 door.
    She was a bit rust bucket but the engine was so sweet. How much are these worth today?

  • @tc5273
    @tc5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Legend! Heart sank when you said you'd hope it had been stolen. I know how it can get. I had a Jag XJ-S that I think was sent to Earth to try my patience and would have been divorced ten times if it was a woman. But your determination and perseverance paid off mate. Italian cars are very much like women.

  • @blackline66
    @blackline66 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Jack. Look at the Car Wizards channel. He has just got one. He lists all the main issues. Replaced the fuse banks with modern glass types. Electronic distributor and a way to tell the bad fuelling issue.

  • @davidstuart4915
    @davidstuart4915 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Progress :) - You have been busy_ pleased Furry is back on the road purring like a kitten - and now just a little fettling, whilst still enjoying the drive - next job a spots induction set-up to recapture the main benefit of those troublesome carbs :)

  • @RickCT2000
    @RickCT2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent news! Your persistence is paying off. Plus you have a very nice friend to allow you to dissemble and borrow engine parts off his own 308.

  • @Engineerd3d
    @Engineerd3d 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that surprised me. Ever thought about converting it to FI? It's not as bad as one would think.

  • @marco2k6
    @marco2k6 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Freaking awesome. Well done! Super jealous....soooo badly want a 308.

  • @delukxy
    @delukxy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It may be Ferrari's way, and other makes do it too, but I've never liked having plug leads bundled and clamped together. The slightest bit of leakage and the plugs can get random sparks or maybe none at all at times. Did you actually swap in another set? Yours 2 years old. Normally fine but in Ferrari time that might be light years! A friend with a very nice Mustang as a weekend and show car had a misfire. Like you he threw lots of time and money at and in the end had the engine rebuilt. Nothing was found to need replacing. After refitting the engine the misfire was still there. The engine builder fitted new leads and it ran superbly. Although the old ones looked perfect it was thought that they were the originals or at least many years old. They were original spec of the Motorcraft type.
    Run in total darkness and spray water on the leads. It might prove enlightening (sic). Do you happen to know a shop that still has and uses a Crypton Analyser. Magic things can happen on the screen. A modern version? I'm sure they are around.

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish I was there... I've got a knack that developed into a system for carburetors and Weber's are no different, you just need a lot more patience! I know I commented on an earlier video referring to tinkering and Webers!? ¿`_

  • @Fintoman
    @Fintoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patience is a virtue
    Many would have cursed the car and thrown the towel in long before. Your persistence has payed off. Now you can really start to enjoy your Ferrari. Good job, really happy for you.👍👍

  • @cobrapub
    @cobrapub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if and when your finished with the old 308 I would like to buy it for my EVO 288/308 project!

  • @fractalrender
    @fractalrender 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done! Told you it was a carb thing!!! But I didn’t imagine you put the venturis the wrong way, here in argentina we have a known story with that, look for Oreste Berta, he is known as a magician!. And he has a story about the torinos race cars and the webers!. Check the progretion jets for the acceleration pumps that can cause cut outs, also if the distributor timing isnt right can cause cut outs. I had that issue on my alfa!. Cheers and very happy for you!!!

  • @darrellsimpson6966
    @darrellsimpson6966 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on you Jack. Great to hear her run up to 7000 revs. To me, it sounded fantastic.. Hope you will keep your 308. They really are a work of art.

  • @MLC...
    @MLC... 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Running much better! Your persistence is paying off. Congratulations.

  • @geoffmarsh7986
    @geoffmarsh7986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really pleased you are almost there. Weber's are difficult to set up unless you are used to them, but there are still people around, not many now, who can help, as I have no doubt you know. These cars don't need to be driven fast to enjoy, a quiet country lane, 0730 on a weekend morning, roof off, and off you go.

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YES to the better sounding 308. YES to the tache
    YES to your patience and skills

  • @yellowrat77
    @yellowrat77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We learn from our mistakes - and that was a simple doozy. The Weber DCNF being such a minimalist masterpiece of function, the handbooks always beg you to rule everything else out before blaming the carb - there is so little to go wrong once correctly calibrated (jets, venturis, emulsion tubes, etc). and even then they just give the cylinder the volume of air it is seeking, a passive instrument by design, but fowl that up and its like finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. But once the other systems are ruled out, like you did, the fault can lie no where else. When an analog car talks, there is an art to listening - it is telling you all that you need to know!

  • @SteeeveO
    @SteeeveO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sure that a local chav didn't stick a McNugget down one of the exhausts when you weren't looking?

  • @fredcailloux2526
    @fredcailloux2526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just to piss all Ferrari fan boy in the universe, swap a Ford V6 ecoboost in there! Blasphemy! :-D

  • @1995RangeRover
    @1995RangeRover 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you've spotted that issue and let your mustache grow back. It helped you by rubbing on it to process the plan hahaha!! Cheers!

  • @jmhofmeyr
    @jmhofmeyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you watch Ian's channel you will notice he often talks about applying full throttle at low RPM to see if the car pulls clean, which is a sign that carbs are set up correctly.. I would have them set up by Ian or just take time to set them SPOT ON and in the longer run also swop out the distributor setup for electronic ignition.

  • @marktaylor4013
    @marktaylor4013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well hello number 27 thank you as always for all the hard work you put into bring in your life's experience with the Ferrari to me in my front room absolutely marvellous that you've been able to fault find the mysteries of the misfiring and and now that you have it running great footage 7000 RPM who would have thought it