22RB Dragline's First Job Comes To An End
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 เม.ย. 2022
- Well all good and not so good things must come to an end. Over the course of several weeks I traveled back and forth to my mate's farm near Capella, to de-silt a channel leading to house dam.
This gave me the perfect opportunity to learn more about operating my 22RB as well as finding out all the mechanical problems that it has. Although I had spent many hours operating excavators and other earthmoving machines, nothing is quite like a cable excavator/dragline.
This video shows some of the issues I encountered, and some hard realities about costs, work environment, limitations of the machine and practicalities.
I hope to get the opportunity to take her out on another real job, but for now I need to save money... so she is taking a rest... a long rest... maybe a very long rest. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Your Dragline is in beautiful condition for it's age. Great restoration. I drove a couple of these for my local Brick company excavating clay for making the Bricks. It was job I enjoyed.
Thanks John.
Good to see the old girl earning her keep Adrian! You've done well for a new operator and you'll be a pro in no time! I just remember seeing draglines as a young fella, in their last days of operation on construction.
Cheers Gregg.
Thanks Gregg, but this was a love job. I'm broke now hahaha. I she is definitely interesting to operate and I've learnt a bit, especially from listening to some of the guys who worked them before. I don't know when I will get to have another crack at it on a real job, but hopefully I will slowly sort out some of the mechanical issues.... when finances allow. So are you still QLD'er or are we retired to the hills?
@@adriannettlefold9084 Very good to hear! Still here...waiting for a price from the builder!! I'll be here for another year at least...if I can stand working for that long? Hopefully I'll know what's going on in a few months?
Gregg :-)
You’re becoming a seasoned operator by the end of the first job, and you’ve almost got the old girl house-trained !
Keep it up !
Kind regards,
Steve A.
Thanks Steve. I got your email too. By the way, you don't happen to know a Mr David Potter from Melbourne, do you? He used to own this crane and was going to get in contact with people he knows in the UK for parts for me.
Tell me what you want, and I’ll see what I can find . . . .
I can’t promise success, though
Kind regards,
Steve A.
Good to see you're parking my baby girl in the shade🤣🤣🤣
That oil is only SWEAT - she lovely - drive on.
😃That's the Best Comment yet! Tah!
wonderful, the fun of operating old machines.
I don't know if I would use the word fun too freely, but yes there is a level of adventure.
There is an additive you get to pour into intake and this laps in the bourses to reduce the polish and oil passing the pistons - we used to use VIM a detergent powder but now they have a proper additive - check it out.
How do you use it? These are Oil Bath Air Filters. Where do I put it in?? And where can I get the additive ?
HI, Mate and that was a GOOD one! Those clutches swell when not gotten hot and dried out as you well know. Always something. And as far as the oil leaking, years ago when the first 237 Maxidyne (gold dog) Mack engines came out the company had a LOT of trouble with blown head gaskets. The extremely good wrench man said he was going to try and re-torque the heads. We were talking about it because I had a Wabbit diesel that was bubbling between the head and block. He said he did the Mack's in removing one bolt at a time, oiling it to get a true reading and torqueing it back down. No more blown gaskets and no more bubbles. And I used to have a land cruiser like yours and would still have it if the body hadn't rusted away. TOUGH rig and a sweet runner. an FJ-70 maybe? Looks like yours but had a rag top. Take care and keep on digging whener you can. Boy Howdy it'd take me a while to get used to pushing instead of pulling. GBWYou and CHEERS!
I want a mentor to hold my hand and show me what I need to do and then I can Monkey see Monkey do. Other than that I need finances to be able to fix what is needing repair and make the machine reliable and trustworthy to actually take on a real job. I realised pretty quick it needs a flat pad to work off, which means either a dozer or a grader to help you on every job. And especially for WHEN you get stuck. The machine wouldn't track for me properly and to compensate I had to over tighten the clutches til I pulled everything off and cleaned everything thoroughly. Anyways, got your reply to my email and I don't have a worry to ring long distance with my phone plan. So hopefully try and catch up soon. Cheerio, Adrian
@@adriannettlefold9084 Wished I was there and we'd figure it out together. And as your outgoing thing says that something haywire isn't as bad as it looks at first. And sometimes you just have to walk off and pray and think about it. And you'll get to where you can make your own flat working spot with the machine. Those pads will pack down lumps and bumps nicely. Eventually there'll have to be a set of mats but that's a long way off and if you get a dozer just get one with a winch. A 2-part line will move a lot if the tractor is chained to a tree or something solid. And a grader is handy for road work but won't really pull much and a dozer can do fine flat spots and access roads AND get you unstuck. I unstuck myself once with a 350 John Deere dozer with a winch but the dragline was a small nit with a 2-71 with a torque converter. I set the Unit throttle just under spinning nd then winched it out with the dozer. Never got in that spot again but did have to take a D-4 out and winch the big Unit back on a set of mats after I quit that outfit. Had a Hyster winch and yanked that rig right back on solid ground but I was right next to it. Always something. Cheerio 2 too and you have the number!
Can you cast the bucket to gain any kind of reach? Beautiful machine
I am not expert at operating this machine, but I have managed to cast the bucket far enough to reach where I needed to on the one and only job I have used it for. You are limited by length of drag rope as to how far you can cast the bucket, 25m.
They all have arthritis from an early age.
Great video of your RB-22 dragline! Perhaps you can answer a question I have about the dragline bucket. Why are there three chain shackle attachment holes (bottom, middle & top holes) in each of the brackets on the front of the dragline bucket?
I imagine the hole locations allow for different ground penetration, depending on the set of shackle holes used. It seems to me the top holes would provide the greatest ground penetration, & the bottom holes would provide the least ground penetration, because the top holes would have a longer moment (leverage) arm from the top holes to the bucket teeth, which I believe would cause the bucket to tilt, with its teeth angling more downward & into the ground. But I'm just guessing. Is my guessing correct?
You're right on the money. Glad you enjoyed the video, I am hoping to do a couple more short films prior to selling or swapping her, which will probably be sometime either late this year or early in 2023. Cheers.
@@adriannettlefold9084 Thank you, Adrian. I wondered about this dragline bucket shackle hole arrangement for years. But usually, it seems I've noticed the drag cable shackles are attached to the bottom or middle holes on a dragline bucket (but not attached to the top holes on the bucket), on TH-cam videos of draglines. I guess the bottom & middle holes are the best suited for most digging situations (?)
I look ahead to more of your great videos!
I meant to say "drag chain shackles", not "drag cable shackles". Cheers!
@@shadovanish7435 I am only a novice, but most of the guys in the Dragline/Crane community are all too ready to lend a hand if they are asked. I have learnt a lot from people all round the world since posting. I hope I can do one or two more videos for you. Cheers.
Хороший ковш для планировки с прямым дном 👍 ,какой вес экскаватора? Длинна стрелы?
Привет Роман. Это был единственный ковш, оснастка которого была в пригодном для использования состоянии. И, как заметил кто-то другой, это правильный тип ведра для снятия сливок и обрезки из-за плоского дна. Длина стрелы составляет примерно 18 м или 58 футов или около того. Эта машина примерно 22т
Hi! How much force required to mechanical control levers?
It depends on how far you adjust the clutch bands. They shouldn't need too much effort to latch in, but they are definitely heavier than the feel you get with hydraulics.
Las fricciones que tiene que usar es de una que es lisa como entre color gris y café de esa clase usa mi papá en todos los cinchos y le trabaja muy bien por qué de las que tiene usted esas no sirven y en los breques usa una de color gris
A los cables debe de echarle aceite quemado una vez al día antes de empezar a trabajar igual a las cadenas de las orugas cada vez que mire que ya no tiene aceite
Hola hermano. No sé de qué tipo son los forros del embrague de fricción, pero cuando se agarran, funcionan bien. Creo que no tienen el resorte amortiguador instalado en el lado muerto para mantener una tensión uniforme en la banda, es parte del problema. Eso y el hecho de que me dijeron que le pusiera vinagre al tambor para que agarrara más, y lo empeoró.
Todavía no he puesto aceite en las cadenas de propulsión. Pensé que se ensuciarían y se desgastarían más. Son demasiado largos y necesitan que se eliminen los enlaces. Pondré aceite de sumidero en ellos y los cables cuando pueda volver a usarlo. Gracias por el consejo.
@@adriannettlefold9084 ese es el problema que tiene esa fricción que hay que echarle algo para que trabaje en cambio con la que le digo no hay necesidad de eso
Si no le aplica aceite a las cadenas se desgastan y se rompen rápido
@@omar-dragados Sí, bueno, solo sé que solo podemos comprar el mismo material que se usa en los forros de las zapatas de freno para camiones. Todo lo que tenga asbesto está prohibido aquí. La persona que me dijo que usara el vinagre era un operador de dragalina de una empresa local y también tiene una gran colección de maquinaria antigua, que incluye una 54RB, una americana, una Marion, una 10RB y otras grúas, palas y dragalinas. Definitivamente engrasaré las cadenas cuando las ajuste. Los pasadores de las almohadillas están desgastados, por lo que sacaron 2 almohadillas, por lo que ahora tengo que quitar los eslabones para ajustar la cadena, ya que no quedan ajustes en las almohadillas. Gracias de nuevo y cuídate compañero.
hi, which engine is that?
Indian built Air cooled 6 cylinder Ruston Hornsby. 6YDA Mk II.
Is that an old GM engine.
It's a Ruston Hornsby 6YDA mk II air cooled engine
Bom.dia.operador.de.dragline.
how long is the boom
I'm sorry I can't remember off the top of my head, I will see if I wrote it down somewhere.
@@adriannettlefold9084 I need a dragline for my gold mine operation
I have tried to see where I wrote down the measurements and after looking at some photos the boom as is, is roughly 21.6metres long.