Good that I walk out my door and rip a speed run. Although I'm a bit careful going away from the house, had a few near misses with my neighbours cars coming up the drive lol
That's pretty nippy Phil! Good gain over the outrunner, looks like it should have done in the first place! Like mate! Look forward to the bashing run :))
Cheers Mark, the skatepark run was pretty good fun, nailed a few back flips...as you see at the end of this one. A slight miss hap with the motor/spur ended play, but other than a few battle scars...it was all good!
Luis Whitlock Not always....I’ve been to the skate park with this and it took far more abuse than more expensive brands. Agree a $20 RC is not gonna be that good, but there are plenty of $70+ trucks out there that a really good
@@TomleyRC well I do got a DHK that built like a tank when it comes to bashing I was surprised how well that held up not one broken A arm only bent the metal drive shaft a few time but over all good short course truck. But the electronics are garbage once I changed it was all good. There under $200
I think they used the outrunner because they are cheap. I bought a few of these 1500 to 2700 kv motors for planes and boats they are like 8.00 and put a smile on your face bang for buck wise! However I think you made a wise choice to the larger can👍👍
Hello. I‘ve got the brushed one and like it. Did already som upgrades to it. Is there a bigger brushed motor that I can put in without any other changes? Hope you‘ve got an answer vor me, I‘m new in rc‘s. Thanks.
@@TomleyRC IC.. I will definitely settle with 2s lipo 30c or even higher C but not sure if it will ruin any electronics. I have one on its way can't wait 😅😅
The chassis on these is slightly different to the 12428, the mounting holes are not the same. This and the JJRC Q39 share all the same parts....but not the 12428.
andrew mccluskey It’s the ESC that would suffer with a 3s if it wasn’t capable, so didn’t want to fry the ESC before trying a different motor. I’ll be trying a 3s with the current motor soon and may put the old o e back in a try. But it’s only a 45a ESC so not sure it will take a 3s
@@TomleyRC Voltage limits and current limits are separate, if the ESC cannot run 3S it would just not work at all. Also that little inruner I doubt wouldn't pull many amps, especially since it's geard so low so the load would be reduced, 45A ESC is plenty, I have a ZD racing 1/10 MT with a much larger 3650 motor running a 45A ESC and it's totally fine on 3S despite having much greater weight/load/motor size all demanding for more current
@@druscanam I just placed an order for this one and I'm now shopping for batteries. I'm new to the hobby and still wrapping my head around most of the stuff, but do you think this can easily be compatible with a 3S 35c lipo out of the box? I got a 12428 last week because of Tomley's video. This hobby is starting to get more expensive lol.
Stock 12428 is 35km/h....so side by side stock it's faster, but with this motor upgrade it's not quite there. The Feiyue and JJRC are built a bit better as well.
@@TomleyRC The guy in this vid got it working. Pretty powerfull! th-cam.com/video/NJqACpNzCwM/w-d-xo.html Maybe his ESC has a different set up/programming?
@@SURCs Sure, but as far as I remember, the stock plastic driveshaft was a weak point. Worked for mild driving, but even on 2S it broke sometimes as others reported. From my experience 3S worked fine, even with the stock driveshaft. (I had metal drive shaft front and rear as spares, just for the case. But never neded them.) Only problem I had have been the wheelies, because the rear monted spare tyre got damaged a bit because of touching the ground. So some CF tape or something else to prevent the tyre is recommended. Oh, and better, oil filed shocks are recomended. But I wasent driving that much, because I have quitt RC hobby. For the price, this car is very versatile.
My Brushless WLtoys 12428 does 70km/h.... but that has a bigger brushless motor in it. This is a smaller motor and geared differently, so is not gonna be as fast. Anything over 20mph on these and they just roll over anyway.
@@gamingprotocol8871 32mph on 2s....but thats a 540 sized motor and a 60a ESC. The Feiyue was a 390 sized motor and 45a ESC. I could put the same set up as my WLtoys and get a better speed. The fact is that these Feiyues and the JJRC's although slower, are better built, and this one looks much better as well. So I'm not sure why you are not impressed....you can't compare them until WLtyos bring out a Brushless RTR like this one.
@@TomleyRC I am not impress because this car has no power no speed gearing system very bad easily to get strip gears during bashing because of 48dp compare to 12428 which has good gearing with 32dp which can not strip easily and has very durable flexible plastic that can handle abuse during bashing. And cheap spareparts upgrading.easy available.
Reality, Comedy & Entertainment Well, I stripped the gears on my WLtoys....as well as this one. The Feiyue is just as durable, nothing broken after the skate park run (video soon), apart from stripped spur, the same as my WLtoys. This one also comes with metal diffs unlike the plastic 12428 ones (I’ve stripped them twice), and also has a slipper clutch to protect any drivetrain damage. The 12428 is not bad...but it is not built as well as this. I have had my 12428 just over a year, and have had to upgrade the diffs to metal, and get a new rear driveshaft, as well as frying the ESC (stock one). Speed isn’t everything 😉👍
looks brilliant and cant wait for the skatepark run big improvement on speed aswell
Was good fun...broke it in the end, but you'll see it was not anything bad. These are nice an strong!
I love the chassis torque on these cars, watching the right wheel lift with all that power! Looking forward to the skatepark run mate. 💀 ☠️
haha...yeah it's got some twist, even with oil shocks they still do it! The skate park run was really good fun...just need to get round to editing it.
Cool upgrade dude it's ripping around now buddy 👌👍 never liked the looks of that outrunner motor, just weird seeing that in an rc car 🤣😁
Yeah...not really ideal either...looking at the speed gain
Aww you have the same 1500mah 45c 2s's I use. Very reliable batterys aye!!!
Very nice. 👍 I love that brick driveway too!!
Good that I walk out my door and rip a speed run. Although I'm a bit careful going away from the house, had a few near misses with my neighbours cars coming up the drive lol
Great job bud! She rips now!
That's pretty nippy Phil! Good gain over the outrunner, looks like it should have done in the first place! Like mate! Look forward to the bashing run :))
Cheers Mark, the skatepark run was pretty good fun, nailed a few back flips...as you see at the end of this one. A slight miss hap with the motor/spur ended play, but other than a few battle scars...it was all good!
@@TomleyRC Good to hear Phil! :-)
Wow, usually don't see outrunners on a car. Funny they were both the same kv. Nice increase in speed.
Yeah, a bit strange. It was actually good they were the same, proves it's not all about the KV! Motor type is just as important. Cheers for watching
Cool to see these low grade toys and how they run👍.
Yes, very good nowadays. Much better than a few years ago!
@@TomleyRC I agree to disagree you get what you pay for
Luis Whitlock Not always....I’ve been to the skate park with this and it took far more abuse than more expensive brands. Agree a $20 RC is not gonna be that good, but there are plenty of $70+ trucks out there that a really good
@@TomleyRC well I do got a DHK that built like a tank when it comes to bashing I was surprised how well that held up not one broken A arm only bent the metal drive shaft a few time but over all good short course truck. But the electronics are garbage once I changed it was all good. There under $200
I think they used the outrunner because they are cheap. I bought a few of these 1500 to 2700 kv motors for planes and boats they are like 8.00 and put a smile on your face bang for buck wise! However I think you made a wise choice to the larger can👍👍
Yes....not quite enough power for a truck. Didn't realise they were the same KV until after I'd filmed it :)
Looks nice!!
I didnt know any rc cars had an outrunner motor. Hmm. Wonder if there are any advantages to that or not?
hybrid32494 first for me too.
No advantages from what I can see, may work in a lighter car. But both were 3800KV....and the 390 can gained 25%+ in speed.
Any noticeable improvement in battery life between the two motors?
Good video
NC MOUNTAINS ❤! 👊.. 👍👍.!!!
Hello.
I‘ve got the brushed one and like it. Did already som upgrades to it.
Is there a bigger brushed motor that I can put in without any other changes?
Hope you‘ve got an answer vor me, I‘m new in rc‘s.
Thanks.
Did you use the same stock ESC?
Great
That´s a very worthwhile speed increase - and there´s something odd about outrunners in RC cars - I suppose that´s just habit, though.
Yeah...first one I've seen on a truck/car
Wow very fast big thumbs up my friend XD
Cheers :)
This features is definitely better than the wltoys 12428 as a package. Can u run 3s out of the box?
Not sure, will give it a try, but the ESC is only rated at 45a.
@@TomleyRC IC.. I will definitely settle with 2s lipo 30c or even higher C but not sure if it will ruin any electronics. I have one on its way can't wait 😅😅
Clorox Bleach did you ever get it has it been any trouble so far? Thanks in advance
Put a 4600 kv in there
Great
ESC was sold at the factory?
Yes, stock ESC
Was it easy to install?
Now then mr tomley wud this bodyshell fit the 12428 without too much alterations to it
The chassis on these is slightly different to the 12428, the mounting holes are not the same. This and the JJRC Q39 share all the same parts....but not the 12428.
@@TomleyRC ok and are the body panels plastic or metal
John Salt Metal...they may fit the 12428 cage...but not 100% sure
Why didn't you try the stock motor on 3S before putting another motor in?
andrew mccluskey It’s the ESC that would suffer with a 3s if it wasn’t capable, so didn’t want to fry the ESC before trying a different motor. I’ll be trying a 3s with the current motor soon and may put the old o e back in a try. But it’s only a 45a ESC so not sure it will take a 3s
@@TomleyRC
Voltage limits and current limits are separate, if the ESC cannot run 3S it would just not work at all. Also that little inruner I doubt wouldn't pull many amps, especially since it's geard so low so the load would be reduced, 45A ESC is plenty, I have a ZD racing 1/10 MT with a much larger 3650 motor running a 45A ESC and it's totally fine on 3S despite having much greater weight/load/motor size all demanding for more current
I'll give it a try on the current motor....and then switch it if it survives. 👍
@@druscanam I just placed an order for this one and I'm now shopping for batteries. I'm new to the hobby and still wrapping my head around most of the stuff, but do you think this can easily be compatible with a 3S 35c lipo out of the box?
I got a 12428 last week because of Tomley's video. This hobby is starting to get more expensive lol.
Stock Wltoys 12428 stands no chance against that hybrid feiyue lol
Not in the speed department tho
Stock 12428 is 35km/h....so side by side stock it's faster, but with this motor upgrade it's not quite there. The Feiyue and JJRC are built a bit better as well.
35 with 2s. I tried using 3s on this stock rc 12428. It hits 50kph easy. Careful not to burn the system tho
Thank you bro. Cheers
Fast as f%ck boi
FAF 🤘
Is the screw diameter on the racestar engine the same as the outrunner? Thanks
Jacobo Quinteiro Gomez No, 1 size up whatever that is ‘M3’? You have to drill out the mount holes a little for it to fit
Tomley RC Garage thanks bro.
Are the screws included in the engine?
what's the best battery to put in this? I'm guessing a 2s lipo 30c?
Yes, a decent 2s Lipo 👍
Tomley RC Why are you not using 3S? Thanks!
Whats about 3s on stock motor, or 3s on your upgraded motor? Will the stock ESC be able to handle 3s?
I tried a 3s and the ESC didn't like it and wouldn't run.
@@TomleyRC The guy in this vid got it working.
Pretty powerfull! th-cam.com/video/NJqACpNzCwM/w-d-xo.html
Maybe his ESC has a different set up/programming?
Oh maybe, or I had a bad Lipo? Maybe I should try again. 👍
@@silbernersurfer8264 that guy broke the back driveshaft, because 3S was to strong.
So 2S is enough vor the buggy.
@@SURCs Sure, but as far as I remember, the stock plastic driveshaft was a weak point. Worked for mild driving, but even on 2S it broke sometimes as others reported. From my experience 3S worked fine, even with the stock driveshaft. (I had metal drive shaft front and rear as spares, just for the case. But never neded them.) Only problem I had have been the wheelies, because the rear monted spare tyre got damaged a bit because of touching the ground. So some CF tape or something else to prevent the tyre is recommended. Oh, and better, oil filed shocks are recomended. But I wasent driving that much, because I have quitt RC hobby.
For the price, this car is very versatile.
That needs a 6000kv lol
Im not impress. wltoys 12428 do better job on brushless setup. Mine 12428 do 32 mph on 2 cell lipo.
My Brushless WLtoys 12428 does 70km/h.... but that has a bigger brushless motor in it. This is a smaller motor and geared differently, so is not gonna be as fast. Anything over 20mph on these and they just roll over anyway.
@@TomleyRC 70km does on 3s not 2s dear.
@@gamingprotocol8871 32mph on 2s....but thats a 540 sized motor and a 60a ESC. The Feiyue was a 390 sized motor and 45a ESC. I could put the same set up as my WLtoys and get a better speed. The fact is that these Feiyues and the JJRC's although slower, are better built, and this one looks much better as well. So I'm not sure why you are not impressed....you can't compare them until WLtyos bring out a Brushless RTR like this one.
@@TomleyRC I am not impress because this car has no power no speed gearing system very bad easily to get strip gears during bashing because of 48dp compare to 12428 which has good gearing with 32dp which can not strip easily and has very durable flexible plastic that can handle abuse during bashing. And cheap spareparts upgrading.easy available.
Reality, Comedy & Entertainment Well, I stripped the gears on my WLtoys....as well as this one. The Feiyue is just as durable, nothing broken after the skate park run (video soon), apart from stripped spur, the same as my WLtoys. This one also comes with metal diffs unlike the plastic 12428 ones (I’ve stripped them twice), and also has a slipper clutch to protect any drivetrain damage. The 12428 is not bad...but it is not built as well as this. I have had my 12428 just over a year, and have had to upgrade the diffs to metal, and get a new rear driveshaft, as well as frying the ESC (stock one). Speed isn’t everything 😉👍