Very good explanation!!! Couple of issues I'm having though with DSPs and Epicenters/bass processors. I have a Stetson Bluetooth processor that I'm considering installing before my preamps to clean up the sound from the head unit before any further amplification. I'll have 4 channels of selectable A, B and AB outputs (or combined as 2 since 1 output has to be split to connect an amp from one output. Meaning 1&2 would be a left and right if used straight). Using it this way I could tune channel 1 however I like and run it to the preamp let's say on the right input, #2 however would be on the left input both controlled by the preamp fader as a mids and highs preamp. Channels 3 and 4 would go to the inputs of the second preamp for midbass/midrange and bass. I think this would increase my tuning capabilities. I also think DSPs have the same features as Epicenters. Select the frequency in the parametric EQ (sweep), adjust it's Q (wide), boost or cut, adjust gain, etc. with tons of more tuning options. The preamps I use have subsonic filters from 30-300hz.
Dude you blew my mind im ordering me a 2 Eqs i just pulled out ALL of my RF Amplifiers 14 in total with as of now 42 tweets mids center and larger midrange speakers and lastly subs . I drew all my wireing diagrams but now with the dual eqs back at it ... let me say i can't wipe the smile off my face knowing that I can use all my equipment. Thanks for your insight because I would have figured it out but glad you did for my sanity.
I have this same dsp, thanks for uploading this video, because I was like dang I really don't want to keep going under my second row seat just to adjust my sounds.
I split the Right and Left of the front and back EQ outputs going to my DSP inputs so that I can use the fader on the EQ as balance. Then I set up the eq on the DSP the way I want it with the analog EQ set at flat. And now I can use the analog EQ to fine tune how the DSP is set. AND I'm using using the EQ as my bassknob. Good stuff. Thanks for your help bro.
I commented on an other video can i run my rca cables from sub out on eq to my mono amp then the front and rear from eq to the dsp and not use the dsp for sub?
@@bbodish707 yeah, that's what I'm doing. My dsp is mostly for setting crossovers and matching the levels of my tweeters to my woofers. And then the eq retains all of its use of sub control, fade and volume.
@@moasto02 thats what i want the sub control cause i can now longer get the remote for the first version VIVseries amp i have. And i want the tweeters and midrange control separate.
Great video. I thought that I was doing something wrong by using those rca mono connectors. I thought that I had to buy a mixer or another mono converting electronic crossover.😂
You should delete the equalizer it makes no logical sense to use both side by side as the DSP handles the Equalizer and other functions like time alignment and crossovers.
@@12voltfever yes, I have and it makes no sense to use an analog equalizer when the DSP does the same thing the analog equalizer does and much more. The DSP does equalization so why would it be needed to use an analog 7 band EQ?
I like having both, only because I like having my EQ right by my middle console , controlling both the bass and volume right beside each other VERSUS using a bass knob and reaching for my radio volume knob. I’m weird like that. For me, nothing to do with gaining anything. Just like controlling everything off the EQ that’s closer to my hand by the way I drive. Bass, volume and can hit the AUX button on my EQ too in case i spot the police, the aux button turns its down very low, not mute, so all 3 together in quick reach
Look at like this you build a desk with your hammer saw Nails but when your finish doing that it looks out but if you sand it down and paint it it looks amazing soooo that is what the equalizer does give it that fine tuning that you need at the end
Can you even try clean the low range from subwoofers then boost Mid range on that? It sounds like actually subwoofer is mid range speaker but more deep at this frequency
Question kinda stupid so I have 3 eqs 2 are the same as urs timpano. My question is would I really need to add my eqs to the dsp? My car sounds very well with just the dsp would I really benefit? Or is it just a slight perk?
First you showed us one splitter going to the left channels, and the other to the right channels on both eq's. Then you showed us one splitter for both left and right on each eq...sooo which way is it that you recommend?
@@12voltfever Oh ok, now I see what you did. You split the outputs from the deck, which some people wouldn't have to do if their headunits have front, and rear outputs, then you combined the outputs from the equalizers to create a mono signal for each input to the DSP. I also use multiple equalizer setups, and it really makes a big difference when you have two or more different speakers or components in your setup.
Can you bypass the lpf on the equalizer while using the sub out on it? Would be beneficial to tune the lpf on the amp because the eq only has two options, which is kinda limited
Heyyy big fella I was just watching your video on the dsp or dap I’m trying to install mines which rca. Jacks do I used to make this work do I need splitters for my four channel to connect to my processor
Only reason i would connect a separate eq to the dsp is for my personal manual control over the sound frequecies rather than messing with the already tuned dsp with the laptop everytime. Now my question is can i control the bass frequency with the eq connected to the dsp as well?
@@12voltfever ok. I have the dsp connected to Rockford 5 channel and not a separate bass amp. Is there any way to control front, rear, subs with only that 1 eq?
what would be the point of installing multiple eqs like this? Seems as though it would destroy any stereo imaging and eliminating balance and fade controls. It also seems redundant due to the presence of the DSP which contains equalizers for each channel
I have a question about a 7 band equalizer and 1 four channel amplifier with the 7 band equalizer there’s just one main input is this for only 1 output for 2 speakers will the 1 main input will it work for 2 channel out put to run front and rear speaker on the 4 channel amplifier thank u
The main input works for the EQ getting signal. The output goes to your DSP or amplifier. There are 2 outputs on the EQ for either 2 amps or you can add more by splitting with RCA Y splitters.
This is what I’ve been looking up for that past week. Thank you for the info🙏🏾. sucks that I can’t use the bass knob through the dsp. But what if I got a regular prv crossover would that allow me to use the bass knob and fader on the equalizer.
@@12voltfever wouldn't it work if you connect the sub rca out from the eq to one of the unputs of the dsp, and use it specifically for the bass channel, and the other input you use for the mids and highs, technically that would make you able to use the bass knob on the eq
Good video ok i have questions when tuning bass amp with a 7 band eq do you set sub volume half way like you do on a bass knob also the master volume does it need to be set all way up when tuning with a Dd 1 ??
Tim, so I can still control my subs with one of those 2 EQ by connecting the sub remote from the AMP to one of the two EQ correct? also, can I set the LPF on the Sub from the DSP though?
I have a PRV SC-20FT Pro 2 Channel RCA cable and I also bought this DSP. Being that the DSP only has 2 inputs… which output on my head unit do I plug the RCAs into? Front, Rear or Sub out? Or do I need Y splitters? If so, how do you recommend I wire the head unit and DSP for optimal performance?
I actually just bought an eq. Would it be good to now that I'm adding this eq to my system, should I make all other features flat across the board? I have a new pioneer that has the app feature to access a 28 or 30 band eq along with a Cross over ETC, ETC, it's a sick head unit for sure. So with that said should I make the eq flat since I'm hooking this eq up. I'm just tired of having to go into the app to adjust ya know or make miner adjustments if needed!
Question. I have that same timp preamp. Behind my pioneer deck had 3 pairs of audio RCA outputs.(Front L&R, Rear L&R and Sub L&R) the timp has only 1 main input. What should do/use. Im using all outputs from the timp to send to my individual amps btw.
Can i use 3 eqs if im using a dm 608 front doors rear doors and rear deck have thier own 4 channels with the medusa im short 2 channels can i use a rca box to add the last amp i intend to use a bass knob for bass no eq
Hello hope all is well wanted to know if I wanted to add rca bass knob and a rca knob to control the volume where would I put it in this tope of setup?
doesn't the dsp have a built in eq? mine does. It allows you to eq individual channels or link multiple channels together. Your set up doesn't make sense. You are just adding more distortion and phase shift by using the analog eq.
It may not make sense on the internet, but for overpowered competition systems it makes a lot of sense in the heat of battle when you need to boost or cut frequencies or lower/raise the signal on particular amplifiers on the fly. Not every system is 100% pure sound quality setup.
Yeah but then you only have control over the level and not the frequency. When talking pro audio subwoofers on extreme car audio applications, you want to be able to adjust the level but also the 50hz and 125hz.
@@eliezerbrito301 there is no need to add a crossover to the DSP as it has built in high pass and low pass crossovers for each output. However, some people prefer a traditional analog crossover on their bass so if you wanted to have one fed off the DSP just use 1 or 2 outputs on the DSP and connect to the input on the 3-way crossover. Just make sure the DSP crossover is set to 10hz-20000hz.
@@12voltfever what I'm saying is there is no need for a eq if your gonna run a dsp. It works backwards. The dsp corrects mistakes, adding a eq elongates the mistakes.
@@yeahright_ard if you knew how competition vehicles worked you would understand. When battling mids and highs systems you have a radio box OUTSIDE the car your buddy is watching your clip lights so you can turn up the mids more, boost frequency on your phenolic compression drivers to completely push every component to the limit. There is absolutely a need for it in these types of setups. Not everyone wants to "set it and forget it" for top quality sound.
This guy said you can install up to 8 equalizer if you do it this way which is backwards. I’m confused here. You think this is right? th-cam.com/video/gFeAxCCmaiQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=FEi38V40fqu-U63q
I will make a video testing both setups. I believe its better to have the EQ BEFORE the DSP. After the DSP, you no longer have limiter protections and you're overriding the crossover. Most dominicans and puerto ricans will not use limiters anyways.
No... Then you lose individual control. The point of using the EQ is to have each one controlling 1 output. Putting two of them together on one input is pointless.
*why on earth would you add an EQ to a dsp lmao.. the dsp IS AN EQ and so much more, that an EQ could never do for you. The DSP ought to have 32bands or so, the eq only has 7. The DSP can eq each speaker, time alignment..etc.. the EQ isn't going to do any of that lol. Old heads need to either just run an eq and stay in the 90s, or just run a dsp. You're wasting money, potential of your system and most importantly YOUR EARS.*
@@vzopresidential788 being able to cut, boost frequencies or increase volume of a particular component / components on that particular EQ. Think outside of your 4 speakers inside the car. And imagine a huge wall of 100 speakers in the back of an SUV pointing outside. With bass, midrange, compression drivers and tweeters. Because that's where we use EQs in a competition setup. EQ also boosts signal voltage.
This is all redundant. Why do you this extra work for an eq that won't even be individual. Just get a dsp with proper software. Dayton DSP is cheap, jl twk is good, helix is the best route.
Not true. I have a ds18 pro eq and without a processor the signal isn’t clean enough even w an alpine head unit. Had to get a bass processor and a dsp, now it’s perfect
Very good explanation!!! Couple of issues I'm having though with DSPs and Epicenters/bass processors. I have a Stetson Bluetooth processor that I'm considering installing before my preamps to clean up the sound from the head unit before any further amplification. I'll have 4 channels of selectable A, B and AB outputs (or combined as 2 since 1 output has to be split to connect an amp from one output. Meaning 1&2 would be a left and right if used straight). Using it this way I could tune channel 1 however I like and run it to the preamp let's say on the right input, #2 however would be on the left input both controlled by the preamp fader as a mids and highs preamp. Channels 3 and 4 would go to the inputs of the second preamp for midbass/midrange and bass. I think this would increase my tuning capabilities. I also think DSPs have the same features as Epicenters. Select the frequency in the parametric EQ (sweep), adjust it's Q (wide), boost or cut, adjust gain, etc. with tons of more tuning options. The preamps I use have subsonic filters from 30-300hz.
I have the same thing . Can I use my epic center bass only but it's a under dash style how would connect this and dsp? Can you help me?
I've been into the spl game for a while, am dipping my hand in the Full range scene first time, this video was very helpful,
You also dip your hands in your pants?
Dude you blew my mind im ordering me a 2 Eqs i just pulled out ALL of my RF Amplifiers 14 in total with as of now 42 tweets mids center and larger midrange speakers and lastly subs . I drew all my wireing diagrams but now with the dual eqs back at it ... let me say i can't wipe the smile off my face knowing that I can use all my equipment. Thanks for your insight because I would have figured it out but glad you did for my sanity.
I'm glad you found the video useful!
I have this same dsp, thanks for uploading this video, because I was like dang I really don't want to keep going under my second row seat just to adjust my sounds.
Exactly what this is used for
It makes no logical sense to use both a DSP and an analog equalizer
Why?@@DayV914
I split the Right and Left of the front and back EQ outputs going to my DSP inputs so that I can use the fader on the EQ as balance. Then I set up the eq on the DSP the way I want it with the analog EQ set at flat. And now I can use the analog EQ to fine tune how the DSP is set. AND I'm using using the EQ as my bassknob. Good stuff. Thanks for your help bro.
Excellent, glad the videos are helpful.
I commented on an other video can i run my rca cables from sub out on eq to my mono amp then the front and rear from eq to the dsp and not use the dsp for sub?
@@bbodish707 yeah, that's what I'm doing. My dsp is mostly for setting crossovers and matching the levels of my tweeters to my woofers. And then the eq retains all of its use of sub control, fade and volume.
@@moasto02 thats what i want the sub control cause i can now longer get the remote for the first version VIVseries amp i have. And i want the tweeters and midrange control separate.
i was just going to write that
Man was about to say damn there’s more got to learn and get for my future sound system I’ve learned so much from last year
If you have any questions let me know
What about the base
Great video. I thought that I was doing something wrong by using those rca mono connectors. I thought that I had to buy a mixer or another mono converting electronic crossover.😂
Thanks a lot I just got a dsp but I did not want to lose my eq only for main volume purposes only
Perfectly explained! THANKS!
I thought I had to Delete my eq after seeing this my system is going to be crazy. Thank you
You should delete the equalizer it makes no logical sense to use both side by side as the DSP handles the Equalizer and other functions like time alignment and crossovers.
It makes perfect sense if you understand competition pro audio systems in cars.
@@12voltfever i do understand real competition style systems and there's no need to use a analog equalizer and a DSP
@@DayV914 oh ok... I guess you've never been to any pro audio competitions then.
@@12voltfever yes, I have and it makes no sense to use an analog equalizer when the DSP does the same thing the analog equalizer does and much more. The DSP does equalization so why would it be needed to use an analog 7 band EQ?
Can u do a video on Brazilian amps for setting gains and stuff for subwoofers
Keep sharing the knowledge bro
Good little video sir - Thx !
Very nice explanation!
Thank you
Why would you do this?isn't the point of a DSP is that it handles all the signal processing for the system? Does this DSP not have built in EQ's?
It does. This is more for competition use
@@12voltfever plz explain?
I like having both, only because I like having my EQ right by my middle console , controlling both the bass and volume right beside each other VERSUS using a bass knob and reaching for my radio volume knob. I’m weird like that. For me, nothing to do with gaining anything. Just like controlling everything off the EQ that’s closer to my hand by the way I drive. Bass, volume and can hit the AUX button on my EQ too in case i spot the police, the aux button turns its down very low, not mute, so all 3 together in quick reach
Look at like this you build a desk with your hammer saw Nails but when your finish doing that it looks out but if you sand it down and paint it it looks amazing soooo that is what the equalizer does give it that fine tuning that you need at the end
Can you even try clean the low range from subwoofers then boost Mid range on that? It sounds like actually subwoofer is mid range speaker but more deep at this frequency
Excellent explanation tnx GOD Bless u
Any vid on how to setup the limiter
Is it the same connection for the taramps dsp?
Great video! Thanks for connection details!
No problem glad it helped
@@12voltfever same way for dsp expert electronics px1 ?
@@frankio_yt3618 same for any DSP
Super helpful thanks a lot Tim appreciate it
only video out here good shit bro 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Ty 🙏
Love your Video bro very simple
Ty I try to explain things simple and plain
Do you really need an equalizer for the dsp?
You don't need it, it's more of a preference but does make the system better
Most DSP'S have a parametric and graphic eq for bass x2 fr x2 and rr x2 so what's the use?!
The use is for extreme Pro Audio competition. When you need to boost or cut frequencies on the fly during a competition.
How many EQ’s can hook up to a single EX4.6 pro crossover from PRV?
Can go 2 ways, one on highs side, one on the bass side (input) or one on each output between the amps.
@@12voltfever damn so still 2 EQ’s. When they going to step it up to 4 eq’s 😩😩
Question kinda stupid so I have 3 eqs 2 are the same as urs timpano. My question is would I really need to add my eqs to the dsp? My car sounds very well with just the dsp would I really benefit? Or is it just a slight perk?
It's good to have for on the fly adjustments for individual songs. But also helps with signal strength.
Hi, how much preamp voltage does the prv send to amps? Thanks
5.6v
can you make a video mounting the rca of a 4 channel amplifier to the dsp thanks
Great idea, I will make a video. Thanks for being a subscriber.
Doesn't the prv have input and output eq? Or is this just for simplicity
Yes it does, this is for more on the fly changes
I have 3 pair of rca jack can you explain the splitter into one plug into dsp a lil more
You only use one, Left and Right from the front output of the radio.
What he meant was he has 3 pairs of rcas on the back of his cd player subs, front and rear. So which pair would be used from the cd player?
First you showed us one splitter going to the left channels, and the other to the right channels on both eq's. Then you showed us one splitter for both left and right on each eq...sooo which way is it that you recommend?
Both because one is the INPUT from the radio and the other is the OUTPUT for the DSP or AMPLIFIERS
@@12voltfever Oh ok, now I see what you did. You split the outputs from the deck, which some people wouldn't have to do if their headunits have front, and rear outputs, then you combined the outputs from the equalizers to create a mono signal for each input to the DSP. I also use multiple equalizer setups, and it really makes a big difference when you have two or more different speakers or components in your setup.
this helped me so much
I am glad the video helped you, thanks for subscribing.
Awesome 👍. How many RCA cables do i need for the DSP?
that depends on how many amplifiers you are connecting and how you are connecting them
@@12voltfever roughly 5 amplifiers. 2 monoblocks and 3 four channel amplifiers
How would do this same connection using a 6 channel LOC ???
Line out converter
Just use the main out to the DSP input
Hi, Does it make a difference if you put the EQ between the head unit and the Dsp vs Doing Head unit to Dsp Then Eq?
Equalizer comes after head unit than DSP or crossover than to amp
Can you bypass the lpf on the equalizer while using the sub out on it? Would be beneficial to tune the lpf on the amp because the eq only has two options, which is kinda limited
You would tune inside the DSP
Heyyy big fella I was just watching your video on the dsp or dap I’m trying to install mines which rca. Jacks do I used to make this work do I need splitters for my four channel to connect to my processor
Watch my other DSP video
Only reason i would connect a separate eq to the dsp is for my personal manual control over the sound frequecies rather than messing with the already tuned dsp with the laptop everytime. Now my question is can i control the bass frequency with the eq connected to the dsp as well?
That's why people use more than 1. You can have 1 on the bass amp.
@@12voltfever ok. I have the dsp connected to Rockford 5 channel and not a separate bass amp. Is there any way to control front, rear, subs with only that 1 eq?
what would be the point of installing multiple eqs like this? Seems as though it would destroy any stereo imaging and eliminating balance and fade controls. It also seems redundant due to the presence of the DSP which contains equalizers for each channel
this is not for your inside system. this is for an outside competition setup, for competing. Not for a set it and forget it system.
I have a question about a 7 band equalizer and 1 four channel amplifier with the 7 band equalizer there’s just one main input is this for only 1 output for 2 speakers will the 1 main input will it work for 2 channel out put to run front and rear speaker on the 4 channel amplifier thank u
The main input works for the EQ getting signal. The output goes to your DSP or amplifier. There are 2 outputs on the EQ for either 2 amps or you can add more by splitting with RCA Y splitters.
@@12voltfever thanks that’s what I did it was my first time to use the equalizer wasn’t for sure at first works good thank you
This is what I’ve been looking up for that past week. Thank you for the info🙏🏾. sucks that I can’t use the bass knob through the dsp. But what if I got a regular prv crossover would that allow me to use the bass knob and fader on the equalizer.
You can use any bass knob. Just buy an external bass knob that works off the RCA cable. Put the bass knob between the dsp and the amp.
@@12voltfever my bad I meant the bass knob on the equalizer
@@12voltfever wouldn't it work if you connect the sub rca out from the eq to one of the unputs of the dsp, and use it specifically for the bass channel, and the other input you use for the mids and highs, technically that would make you able to use the bass knob on the eq
What your setup on your radio, like do you have to adjust anything for the Eq on the radio
Leave everything on the radio FLAT
Good video ok i have questions when tuning bass amp with a 7 band eq do you set sub volume half way like you do on a bass knob also the master volume does it need to be set all way up when tuning with a Dd 1 ??
Can be half or full, your choice. Personally, I prefer half.
Hello I have a question,if I wanted to also add the epicenter would it go in between the eq and the dsp?
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It would go between the DSP and the amplifier.
Tim, so I can still control my subs with one of those 2 EQ by connecting the sub remote from the AMP to one of the two EQ correct? also, can I set the LPF on the Sub from the DSP though?
yes
I have a PRV SC-20FT Pro 2 Channel RCA cable and I also bought this DSP. Being that the DSP only has 2 inputs… which output on my head unit do I plug the RCAs into?
Front, Rear or Sub out? Or do I need Y splitters? If so, how do you recommend I wire the head unit and DSP for optimal performance?
Front out works just fine
I actually just bought an eq. Would it be good to now that I'm adding this eq to my system, should I make all other features flat across the board? I have a new pioneer that has the app feature to access a 28 or 30 band eq along with a Cross over ETC, ETC, it's a sick head unit for sure. So with that said should I make the eq flat since I'm hooking this eq up. I'm just tired of having to go into the app to adjust ya know or make miner adjustments if needed!
If you are using the EQ on the radio, you can leave the external EQ flat. It also serves as a "pre-amp" boosting the signal voltage.
Another question? I got my EQ like I said. But I'm about to order the PRV2.8 DSP. Will this work with just 1 EQ? I don't need 2 EQs.
So with 2 equalizers hooked up to the dsp, it will not be able to be used for subs?
You can. Some people use one for subs and one for the rest of the system
what's wrong with the built in eq?
Nothing is wrong with it, but nobody is going to fumble with the built-in EQ during a competition
Niicceeuuhhh I've always wondered about this
Now you know
Quick question, can I go from radio to DSP to EQ then to amplifier?
You can, but you lose the protection of the DSP crossovers.
So now that I think about it, can I run this same exact dual eq setup and then add a 3rd EQ but run the RCA’s straight to the Subwoofer amp?
Head Unit “Sub Out” > EQ “Main In” and Out from “Sub out” > Subwoofer Amp “sub in”
And the EQ’s that are running thru the DSP will be one for Mids and Drivers, then the other eq for Tweeters only
Yes, you could do that.
Question. I have that same timp preamp. Behind my pioneer deck had 3 pairs of audio RCA outputs.(Front L&R, Rear L&R and Sub L&R) the timp has only 1 main input. What should do/use. Im using all outputs from the timp to send to my individual amps btw.
You only need 1 input.
Question bro regarding the others left out rear front sub where do those jacks go to are they left without plugins?
You can use sub out to go directly to a bass amp but the rest are left unused
Hi, can i use the subwoofer rca's from the head unit to connect my EQ?
You can, but then you can only use it for subwoofers
What if you only have one eq? Could u route it to all highs and subwoofef?
Yes you can run off 1 eq. Just have the left and right outputs go to the input of the DSP.
If I have a clarion eq and a clarion crossover can I add both to use with the DSP?
Sure but you don't need the crossover... That's what the DSP is for.
Did you have to tweak the gains on the eq? Do you have videos on how to use the dsp setup?
You can if you'd like
Can you add the prv dsp to a Audio Control LC7i
Yes you connect the main output of the LC7 to the input of the DSP
I have an expert electronics dsp but everything is in Portuguese how can you assist in explaining the same way you did in your video but in English ?
I suggest you get the PRV instead. The PRV is made by Stetsom. Brazilians prefer the Stetsom over the Expert.
Can i use 3 eqs if im using a dm 608 front doors rear doors and rear deck have thier own 4 channels with the medusa im short 2 channels can i use a rca box to add the last amp i intend to use a bass knob for bass no eq
I am not familiar with the DM608.
Ok so how will the bass be controlled? Bass knob?
Either the bass volume control on the EQ or external bass knob, that's up to you and your preference
I thought the point of running a DSP is to eliminate the use of extra EQs and Crossovers ?
Not exactly. Eq is used for fine tuning on the fly. And for competition purposes
The analog knob allows for fast fine tuning with having to go into your dsp screen or tablet. Well that why I have two eq’s and a dsp 😊
is it possible to connect an equalizer using AC power supply?
These components use DC power.
Can u run the eq after the dsp?
How would the routing work for a 4x8 version dsp
exactly the same
How do I hook my sub amp and say my amp for my highs off of one dsp2.8?
Use separate outputs on the DSP. Each output can be programmed to whatever frequencies you want
Why would you want to? The DSP has an eq, 2 different kinds as well. Input AND output. Seems incredibly pointless
For a competition system you need to be able to make adjustments on the fly. That's where it makes sense.
If I have a Dsp and I want to put a universal bass knob do I run the rca output of the dsp to the input of the bass knob.
Yes, that is correct. The bass knob goes between the DSP and the amp.
@@12voltfever do you know how the routing works on the dsp. I’m still trying to figure the dsp settings
@@lgr9314 I have a video here on my channel explaining the Routing.
so ... where does the amplifier connects to?
To the output on the DSP. If you listen to the video, it is explained how to connect everything.
Hello hope all is well wanted to know if I wanted to add rca bass knob and a rca knob to control the volume where would I put it in this tope of setup?
Bass knob for the sub and separate knob for the volume
@@rubbensofficial5511 the main volume knob would go between the source and the dsp input. The bass knob would go between the dsp output and the amp
@@12voltfever soo from radio to knob to dsp and the eq goes were
@@rubbensofficial5511 i said between the source and dsp. In your case the source is the EQ. But you can use the EQ itself as a volume knob.
@@rubbensofficial5511 no... Read what I said again and you will figure it out.
Can you connect two, eq to a crossover?
Yes, I believe I cover that in the video
Awesome video 👌
Thank you
doesn't the dsp have a built in eq? mine does. It allows you to eq individual channels or link multiple channels together. Your set up doesn't make sense. You are just adding more distortion and phase shift by using the analog eq.
It may not make sense on the internet, but for overpowered competition systems it makes a lot of sense in the heat of battle when you need to boost or cut frequencies or lower/raise the signal on particular amplifiers on the fly. Not every system is 100% pure sound quality setup.
Can you run your eqs after your dsp?
Dsp outs to eq inputs?
I have 3 equalizers and none of them say MAIN, mine only say DVD & AUX
how do you just hook up just two equalizers without a dsp
Install the same way, from radio to eq then eq to the amps
What if my radio has more then 1 rca output?
You only need to use 1
For midbass sub and highs.is that possible??
Any combination is possible ☝️
Why im asking im all new in the game.many thanks.
Why use 2 seperate eqs tho?
For more control over separate components.
I would like to see 1pair rca output from radio to the dsp.no eq.
Just plug from the radio directly into the DSP A and B inputs..
What if you have an stock radio and the doesn't have rca outputs?
@@BoostedMonkey4g63 then you need to install a module that taps into your speaker wires and gives you RCA outputs.
Is there any way to control bass from the dsp? Without a eq ? It would be nice to control the bass depending on songs played .
Yes, you would install an external RCA bass knob in-between the DSP output and amplifier input
That's not how u would do that.. u could use 1 eq and use the sub control ur using the routing feature backwards
Yeah but then you only have control over the level and not the frequency. When talking pro audio subwoofers on extreme car audio applications, you want to be able to adjust the level but also the 50hz and 125hz.
This is also how pretty much everyone with mids and highs setup with EQs uses the routing feature.
What about crossover
@@eliezerbrito301 there is no need to add a crossover to the DSP as it has built in high pass and low pass crossovers for each output. However, some people prefer a traditional analog crossover on their bass so if you wanted to have one fed off the DSP just use 1 or 2 outputs on the DSP and connect to the input on the 3-way crossover. Just make sure the DSP crossover is set to 10hz-20000hz.
I dont have a dsp i have a crossover and 2 equalizers and a pioneer double din head unit,how do i connect the 2 equalizers?
🤔 from the eq to the dsp?
Yes, this is how it is most commonly done.
@@12voltfever what I'm saying is there is no need for a eq if your gonna run a dsp. It works backwards. The dsp corrects mistakes, adding a eq elongates the mistakes.
@@yeahright_ard if you knew how competition vehicles worked you would understand. When battling mids and highs systems you have a radio box OUTSIDE the car your buddy is watching your clip lights so you can turn up the mids more, boost frequency on your phenolic compression drivers to completely push every component to the limit. There is absolutely a need for it in these types of setups. Not everyone wants to "set it and forget it" for top quality sound.
@@yeahright_ard the eq comes BEFORE the DSP 😉
@@12voltfever I get'chu. The DM 608 takes care of my audio needs and I can control it on my phone sooo😕 extra equipment not needed
This guy said you can install up to 8 equalizer if you do it this way which is backwards. I’m confused here. You think this is right?
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I will make a video testing both setups. I believe its better to have the EQ BEFORE the DSP. After the DSP, you no longer have limiter protections and you're overriding the crossover. Most dominicans and puerto ricans will not use limiters anyways.
This method must be for bassheads or something. Cause this is definitely a faux pas in the sound quality game.
This is not for "SQ", this is for competition Pro Audio systems.
Is it the same way for the taramps dip?
If you have a DSP without an EQ it’s not a DSP
The DSP has an EQ inside. Both graphic and parametric.
You can put 4 eq all you need to do is route a to channel 1&2
And route b to 3&4
A is front from the radio
B is rear from the radio
No... Then you lose individual control. The point of using the EQ is to have each one controlling 1 output. Putting two of them together on one input is pointless.
Some ppl connect the dsp first
*why on earth would you add an EQ to a dsp lmao.. the dsp IS AN EQ and so much more, that an EQ could never do for you. The DSP ought to have 32bands or so, the eq only has 7. The DSP can eq each speaker, time alignment..etc.. the EQ isn't going to do any of that lol. Old heads need to either just run an eq and stay in the 90s, or just run a dsp. You're wasting money, potential of your system and most importantly YOUR EARS.*
just tell us you don't understand pro audio car competition systems.
This is pointless in my opinion 💯😐 just use 1 or the other!!!
@@migofrmdaa3182 if you knew why we use it, you'd understand. Maybe I should make a video.
@@12voltfeverI wanna know what’s the plus to add the eq
@@vzopresidential788 being able to cut, boost frequencies or increase volume of a particular component / components on that particular EQ. Think outside of your 4 speakers inside the car. And imagine a huge wall of 100 speakers in the back of an SUV pointing outside. With bass, midrange, compression drivers and tweeters. Because that's where we use EQs in a competition setup. EQ also boosts signal voltage.
@@vzopresidential788 adjustment control at your fingertips. Stronger signal.
This is all redundant. Why do you this extra work for an eq that won't even be individual. Just get a dsp with proper software. Dayton DSP is cheap, jl twk is good, helix is the best route.
If you actually read the comments you would know that this is for competition purposes where you need on the fly adjustment, not for the average joe
The whole point of a DSP is to upgrade your system and not use the old fashion eqs and crossovers desperately.. what nonsense are you doing?🤣
We appreciate your input.
Not true. I have a ds18 pro eq and without a processor the signal isn’t clean enough even w an alpine head unit. Had to get a bass processor and a dsp, now it’s perfect
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