DCS F-16C Viper HARM Targeting System & Markpoints Tutorial!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ย. 2021
- Hey guys! This video is meant as a demonstration and a tutorial on how to use the new Markpoint system in conjunction with the Harm Targeting System (HTS) Pod to provide Real time BDA when engaging SAM Sites in the DCS F-16C Block 50 Viper!
The HTS Pod on the F-16C is a game changer and will make the Viper capable of finding, pinpointing and engaging SAM Sites in unknown locations in all weather day or night! I expect DCS public servers to be swept clean of SAM Sites in no time!
I hope you enjoy the video!
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Bringing back the Retro Intro Baby! I am so pumped for the HTS Pod guys! I except DCS World Servers to be swept clean of SAM Sites in no time with the HTS's ability to pinpoint SAM sites in unknown locations, in any weather, day or night!
It is, sam sites will not be an big of an treat now
Where is this intro music from? Fantastic!
@@_DANZIG_ haha it’s from An old Northrop F-20 Tigershark advertisement from when Northrop tried to sell the F-20 to Top Gun as an adversary aircraft. It’s called Top Gun The story behind the story
It's amazing how something so small on the plane can change the way you do everything. Loving this update.
On the Markpoint page, you can press M-SEL and it will make that Markpoint the current Steerpoint. Don't forget to dobber left after to get your HUD symbology back (ie. CCIP fall line)
What great timing I just got back into DCS with an all new setup and picked the F16 to learn first. Sweet thanks for the tutorial!
Just watched Tricker's video on this too..you guys are my favorite Viper pilots! Great stuff as always!
Having come to the F-16 via Falcon 4.0--->BMS 4.35, I feel most comfortable learning the DCS version of this particular aircraft, and must say the diversity of weapons it can handle is amazing. MOST amazing I think is the astronomical power behind its single engine!?!?!? There's a documentary about a USAF pilot who'd saved the day for our besieged troops using sonic boom and the ridiculous on-demand power of this beast.
I clearly recall its official release to the US arsenal, and that there were two points that set it so apart from the others:
1. the helmet-mounted targeting was like a real-life debut of the system in the helicopter in 1987's movie "Firefox", starring Clint Eastwood. When I saw the film in theater (a place packed with auditorium seating where films are projected onto a vast screen, popcorn costs about $10/oz, and soft drinks are more expensive than champagne), the idea of such a device seemed decades before its time........ then whattaya know, the F-16 Fighting Falcon appears :)
2. the deliberate flight INSTABILITY of the F-16 was one of its ultimate features; it is this instability that provided unprecedented maneuverability AND reduction in pilot fatigue due to the location of center-of-gravity. My (not-so-expert-but-fascinated) understanding is that the F-16 is second only to the F-22 in terms of turn-on-a-dime finesse.
HARM is something I've shuffled my feet with so this is (typically, Spudknocker) the right place :)
Man this is my favorite thing to happen in Dcs For a long time ;)
Its pretty darn cool!
Syria's most well defended camel race track. The Harm pod & markpoints are a real game-changer for me in the F-16 - loving it.
Great tutorial Spudnocker, thanks!
Also love the explanation of how the targeting system works!!!
Thanks man! Its pretty simple explanation but I am glad you liked it!
0:00 That classic intro totally caught me off guard, not gonna lie!
Awesome detail explanation! Thx a lot. Greets from germany. Cheers and many happy landings
Man your tutorials are amazing. I'm a bit dense so I like how well you explain things. I like GrimReapers too but seems like he assumes everyone is a DCS pro and he goes way too fast. Keep up the good work!
I think you can use m-sel (button 0 on icp) for fast access to the Steerpoint set via the mark function. Nice Video as always!
The most detailed video on using HTS+TGP.
Good Video Spudknocker!
Love the video.....my favourite quote "a simple yet complex procedure". Which is it, simple or complex. Here's a word "tortology" lol. Great vid.
You can see that the track radar isn't rotating anymore. So, I guess thats sort of a way visually confirm that it's disabled.
Good point!!!
Now we just need a AG mode for the HMCS
Thanks for the very detailed video. Just tried using the F16 with HTS /HAD/HARM in a multiplayer map but it was not getting anything on the HAD display although SAMS where locking and firing at me. Can a multiplayer server disable the functionality of the HTS?
6:50 - "Racetrack for camel racing"?...ok, I'm intrigued. lol
Can you go further into the markpoints please? I've tried using them and once markpoint 26 is set I can't set it to a different location. I can only change markpoints 27 and up. It has STPT next to it on the DED, so not sure if that's something that needs to be unselected. Can you also explain what the OVFLY option means on the markpoint DED page?
Wonderful tutorial man! Well done! How do you enable the threat rings on the MFD? I am struggling to find it and I cannot... Any help would be appreciated!
If you were firing through cloud cover could use the hts to create a Mark point and the use the Radar in Dbs2 to refine the point for a jsow shot?
Thanks for the video clearing up how to two new features work with each other so well! I was having the issue in my own game where the SAM sites were packed in so close together that I was having difficulty locking the one I wanted. In Wags video around the 5:42 mark, he talks about TMS Right handing off between emitters. Have you been able to get this to work? I also had an issue where after getting repaired, the HTS pod wouldn't lock anything. I don't know if you've experienced that or have any further insight on target handoff. Really enjoy the content, keep up the great work & congrats on 40k!
I tried it the other day and it didn't work for me. Maybe I was doing something wrong though.
@@acesidewinder well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one experiencing that issue at least
one problem ive ran into when using the HTS is when i land , rearm and then takeoff again and come back to do another SEAD mission after locking up a target on the HTS the HARM wont perform the handoff and the target wont be outlined in red and i therefore cannot launch the HARM and i cant seem to perform the hand off, anyone got any ideas on what im doing wrong?
It might take a couple of extra views for me personally to nail this down, but good job 👍
My HAD says it’s off, how do you turn it on? I’ve looked in the controls but have found nothing
Nice video. Noticed that the HARM hitting looked different in Wags video. I wonder if this is an update that will later be coming with the AH-64 with ED trying to work on things closer to the ground for it, or if it's because your HARM maybe exploded early. (9:10 mark in wags video for what i'm refering to)
My harm didn't hit very squarely in this video unfortunately! I have had nice good hits that look just like the video Wags made, so no worries there!
What happens if you fire the harm just by pressing tms-up on the hts page without adding a markpoint? What steerpoint will show up on the wpn page as a target? I used it like this yesterday and all harms hit the target but I didn‘t check the wpn page.
You don’t need a mark point that is only set by me to keep my tpod on the sam site. The HTS pod allows you to handoff a threat radar to your HARM and fire it
Question: I have the winwing orion base f16 throttle. Zooming in with the targeting pod had a delay, I need turn a few times in order to zoom in 1 (untill 9). Anyone has an idea?
Awesome video. I was good until the Markpoint stuff, I'm going to need some practice with that workflow!
Thank you so much for one more video! Do you have a print screen of your graphic settings inside DCS? I'd love to see. Thanks!
I have a whole video devoted to that!
@@Spudknocker Thanks! I will look!
That's a lot to do just to visually see the target area but very interesting video
Amazing video thanks! Any news on the ECM pod?
Probably in the next big update.
now all they need to add is the Towed Decoy and will be ready to do major SEAD missions
is there any reason why my had page says off when i open it. i cannot use the had because it constantly says its off when i have the harm pod equipped
Yes, there's a quiet good reason. Because it's not powered on. Near your right knee are two swithes to power up the two "hoft stations". Left (HTS) Right (TGP)
I am struggling to implement bvr tactics in a live battle with other planes interacting and changing my plans.
I would love to see a video explaining when and how to engage targets and how to effectively run away when things get too hot.
Hey if you want to practice that a little we could maybe Chat on discord.
I would love to give you some help in the bvr section of dcs.
My HAD is off, anyone know how to fix it?
Why did you create two Markpoints? Why not make the first MP the Target? Thank you for another awesome Tutorial!
The first markpoint (26) was created to be able to slew the TGP to that point. He then moved the TGP for a more precise location (27). I guess he wanted to see the target get hit with this, but he fired the missile with the HAD system which targets the location of where the system triangulates the position (which is the location at 26). He should have used EOM or PB mode (on the right MFCD) to fire it towards 27 for higher precision.
The HAD system would then just be used for finding the location of the SAM site.
Whenever I start from the Ground, my HAD says HAD OFF and I'm really struggling to turn it on... any suggestions?
Toggle swith by your right knee, one for TGP and one for the HARM pod thingy
Harm attack display screen is not working to me?at screen 'HAD OFF' error or bug?
Make sure you have your HTS pod loaded on your aircraft!
And that it has power and is warmed up
Make sure you have power ON for your left intake hardpoint
Would it be possible to create threat circle in HSI using HTS and share it via datalink?
I dont think there is a way to do that unfortunately!
Apart from "we'll go ahead" all the time this was a useful video, thanks!
I'm new to learning the Viper and I have a question maybe someone can help clarify. When using the HAD and HARM in POS - EOM mode, do you still have to select the Active ALIC threat table 1/2/3 (WPN page button 2 on top row)? Nobody mentions it in their tutorials so maybe it's a non issue. Maybe the handoff takes care of it?
In my practice mission, I setup a SA-3 so that would be table 3 which is not the default when powering up the HARM.
If you have a AN/ASQ-213 HTS Pod mounted on your aircraft you do not need to worry about your tables or anything like that! Your HTS pod does all the targeting and tell the HARM missile what radar to go after when you launch it!
@@Spudknocker Appreciate the clarification.
I was wondering the same thing. Thanks for asking that question!
Do you live in Canada or the states
Uh ... this is literally the first of your great tutorial videos where you completely lost me at 11:35 with the the quick switching between the MFDs, doing handoffskies, entering something-steerpoint-something, and suddenly you just fire and it hits like Gandalf's magic fireball from hell.
Think I'm missing some fundamentals, because I have the same issues with Mavericks.
Anyone figure out how to HOTAS steerpoint selection yet?
How do i sent my made up markpoints to my f16 human buddy?
Whereabouts do you live
So not sure all thise step using the tgp also us that valuable considering the result if this video... that it didnt actually show the level of damage. Instead, that info came from hts.
13:23 i think you fired your harm on the first mark point(26) and not the more accurate one (27). i might be wrong though
We are dealing with two different systems, markpoints in this video are only for seeing the sam with our tpod
He fired the missile using the HAD system which targets where the system thinks the SAM is. For higher precision he should have used EOM or PB mode on the right MFCD on steerpoint 27.
In theory you could use the HAD system to roughly locate the SAM site. Then slew the TGP to that location. Fin tune TGP for the precise location and fire the missile at that location using EOM or PB mode. But if you can slew the TGP to be roughly at point this would be precision enough with the HAD system.
Seems like so many things have to be done first before a HARM can actually be fired off in this mode. Too many steps.
Thank you!
Started learning the Viper again a few weeks ago. Its a fantastic module