I've seen a Beechcraft Starship leaving San Antonio International several times . Plus once it flew overhead on a very foggy day and the sound of the plane is SO distinctive there was no mistaking it, even unseen .
Yeah!! Burt Rutan the great man,designer genius maverick! He truly is the Carol Shelby of the aircraft designers AND the Kelley Johnson of my generation!Great tributes!
The Starship wasn't a commercial success, which is too bad. Very neat plane. The sound is very distinctive. I always looked for the one when it flew to the San Francisco Bay Area.
On taking off, it looks apparent that the Long-EZ's seem to roll more than others. Is it due to the non-Dihedral wing design ? Would that make a non-pilot passenger uncomfortable ?
Люди уже в III тысячелетии. Летают на чём попало. Любители ракеты в космос запускают. Позволяют себе дорогие "игрушки". Занимаются новейшими видами спорта. Люди живут в кайф, ищут удовольствия в новом, совершенном мире! Осваивают не только сушу, но и воздушный океан, морские глубины. Какая необычная, современная техника, торжество разума!!! А кое кто в Росси ещё империи строит и чужие земли завоёвывает. Находят удовольствия в создании мнимого "величия" и убивании себе подобных...
when I first started watching this video, I was really hoping to see the Famous Voyager aircraft, the one that went around the world without refueling, but I guess they didnt want to take it out of the Smithsoian or however you spell it Museum.......
Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I view the Starship as Burt Rutan's most embarrassing design flop. It was made instantly obsolete by the Avanti and met a very humbling fate. I find the Avanti much nicer looking and a true masterpiece in aerodynamics to boot. If only it did not sound like a giant chainsaw...
@@bebo5558 you would need to understand the design and structure of the Starship to understand what I mean. The starship did suffer from corrosion. In fact it was a fatal flaw in the overall design.
Was in Houston a few years ago, talking to some guys about how rare the Burt Rutan's planes are. And how low the chances are to actually see one flying. Ehm...exactly at that moment a Starship flew over us :DDDDDDD
thefridgeman one used to fly out of New Orleans International (now Armstrong International) sometime in the early 90's I believe. They definitely catch your eye like no other aircraft. :)
thefridgeman Was working at IDI when a Starship landed. I said 'You'll never see one of those again'. Just then a second one called final for 28. 3 days later a third different one landed. I'm glad to have been that wrong.
the first plane the passenger plane with the conard wing has been flying out of Buttonville Markham for the last twenty years twice a day five days a week
The owner of AEA Electronics would fly his Starship over the Hara Arena during the Dayton Hamvention in the Mid eighties. You knew what it was by the drone of the turbine exhaust through the props, too bad Beech / Raytheon pulled it from service after getting screwed by the company that was the only authorized service provider wound up overcharging Beech on the "lifetime" maintenance that was offered on this aircraft. I think it cost Beech even more to destroy the composite airframes at which point they stopped from what I have learned and offered them to the few individuals who outright owned their aircraft as spares without an Airworthiness certificate. There is a possibility that one company re certified one of these airframes as an Experimental and continues to fly it today.
If i had the money in the bank i would have a starship built with modern material and technique.I colud'nt give a sh*t if there are better planes out there JUST LOOK AT IT!
Hoomi2 ... From the accident reconstruction and eyewitness testimony, he failed to determine the amount of remaining fuel in the primary tank before takeoff. When just offshore, the engine ran out of fuel and in the process of switching to the secondary tank, it is believed he inadvertently pushed forward on the side stick, which is very sensitive and dove the plane into the ocean. The fuel switching valve was located above and to the left of the pilot. The engine was developing full power upon impact.
@@desertdenizen6428 It's been a long time. What I remembered was that, at the time, the primary cause of the crash had been determined to be the low fuel. I recall something as well about it not actually being his aircraft yet - he was taking it up to evaluate before buying, but again, it's been many years since it was in the news. At any rate, familiarity with the aircraft would certainly have helped, and likely would have prevented the crash, as would having checked the fuel and either topped off the primary tank, or switched to the secondary before take-off.
@@Hoomi2 Just to put a fine point on this subject, eyewitnesses reported the engine sputtering, indicating a fuel problem but JD was able to switch over to the second tank. This was discovered during the accident investigation, fuel valve in the secondary position. Again the engine was heard to be developing full power while in the fatal dive and the prop was mangled, indicating full RPM. The speculation is he accidentally pushed the right rudder pedal when turning his body to move the tank selector. Unfamiliarity is what killed him and a great shame and loss for us all.
I like Kolb better as an aircraft designer... he faced the same problems I do... how to build the barest possible minimalist aircraft using the least amounts of materials and horsepower with the simplest possible design. His Flyer and then Ultrastar were brilliant... and Firestar even better (though now sold way out of a poor person reach). Think Model T. Other than maybe his first designs and the Quickie, nobody can build a Burt Rutan design because they are just way too god damn expensive, complicated, and use exotic materials. Which kind of makes them... irrelevant.
+CHOPPERGIRL AIRWAR I think you are confused somewhere/somehow. A long EZ is too expensive? Fiberglass and blue buoy foam are too exotic and expensive? I wonder why the Long EZ was such a HUUUUUUGE success flown by thousands of people using power from VW's to Convair's. I love Kolb designs too but they are a totally different category.
+robajohnson Its like an early Kolb Flyer, same time period. More of a project plane kit frame, an assload of work to do before she has any chance of flying again. But at that price, how could I say no?
The Avanti Piaggio is not even close to the Beech 2000 Starship, that's like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Ferrari. The Piaggio has far more in common with the Beech King Air than the Starship. The Piaggio is a nice business turboprop aircraft, the Starship is a P-51 Mustang that seats 8
Karen Audrey Todd *The Avanti Piaggio is not even close to the Beech 2000 Starship, that's like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Ferrari* With the Piaggio being the Ferrari, yes?
The Starship is an ugly airplane. The design seems unfinshed, chiseled and clumsy. The Piaggio P180 which has a similar design pattern is an elegant beauty compared to the Starship. It might be an indicator that some hundreds of P180 are in service but you can count the Starships with your fingers.
The Rutan Long-EZ in the back of Popular Mechanic's kept me up at night. What an amazing plane designer. He is the Carol Shelby of the air.
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more like the pininfarina but either way legendary
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1:00. Here comes my favorite aircraft of the Burt Rutans, the Boomerang!!!!
I've seen a Beechcraft Starship leaving San Antonio International several times . Plus once it flew overhead on a very foggy day and the sound of the plane is SO distinctive there was no mistaking it, even unseen .
Piaggio Avanti EVO is the starship remake by the Italians
Yeah!! Burt Rutan the great man,designer genius maverick! He truly is the Carol Shelby of the aircraft designers AND the Kelley Johnson of my generation!Great tributes!
That was was a great idea, to share the creations of an extra ordinary genius called Burt Rutan
I was there & had conversation with Burt At the corn roast. Such a beautiful,aircraft.
That Starship flew over me while I was fishing several years ago.
My Mechanical Engineering Uncle. Just Loved his work.
There's such a massive sense of presence with a kanard winged aircraft! You just can't ignore them :)
Thanks for the video, much better than the one I tried to do with my phone. I fly an almost Rutan design, a Cozy IV. My last airplane was a Long EZ
How is your Cozy flying????
*DAMN THAT RUBAN BOOMERANG IS SO COOL* 😍😍😍
Beautiful airplane indeed, one of the very few delta wing props in existence!🙂
Imagine if Voyager made a special Guest appearence....now that would have been cool
His designs are visually stunning .
I saw a Starship at the Davenport, Iowa airport.....a great plane :)
I remember seeing N514RS flying into LZU about 3 years ago. What a beauty.
Burt is the Kelly Johnson of my generation
Burt Rutan un grand génie des avions non conventionnel et surtout des avions canards! Merci pour vidéo
Beautiful aircraft Bob
What is the first big one that goes up? The twin prop
Those are some cool planes
The Starship wasn't a commercial success, which is too bad. Very neat plane.
The sound is very distinctive. I always looked for the one when it flew to the San Francisco Bay Area.
How many designers have planes hanging in the National Air & Space museum ??
On taking off, it looks apparent that the Long-EZ's seem to roll more than others. Is it due to the non-Dihedral wing design ? Would that make a non-pilot passenger uncomfortable ?
Люди уже в III тысячелетии. Летают на чём попало. Любители ракеты в космос запускают. Позволяют себе дорогие "игрушки". Занимаются новейшими видами спорта. Люди живут в кайф, ищут удовольствия в новом, совершенном мире! Осваивают не только сушу, но и воздушный океан, морские глубины. Какая необычная, современная техника, торжество разума!!!
А кое кто в Росси ещё империи строит и чужие земли завоёвывает. Находят удовольствия в создании мнимого "величия" и убивании себе подобных...
when I first started watching this video, I was really hoping to see the Famous Voyager aircraft, the one that went around the world without refueling, but I guess they didnt want to take it out of the Smithsoian or however you spell it Museum.......
The Long EZ truly the Klipschorn of planes..
The Starship is still the most beautiful aircraft ever designed IMHO!
Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I view the Starship as Burt Rutan's most embarrassing design flop. It was made instantly obsolete by the Avanti and met a very humbling fate. I find the Avanti much nicer looking and a true masterpiece in aerodynamics to boot. If only it did not sound like a giant chainsaw...
@@N807DS You are correct. The Starship was plagues with design problems. Funny enough one problem was corrosion!
I agree. Sure the plane as built had issues but in terms of looks it is still stunning.
@@hugostiglitz6914 All the reports I've heard, say just the opposite, carbon fiber doesn't corrode! The air frame is expected to last indefinitely!
@@bebo5558 you would need to understand the design and structure of the Starship to understand what I mean. The starship did suffer from corrosion. In fact it was a fatal flaw in the overall design.
Was in Houston a few years ago, talking to some guys about how rare the Burt Rutan's planes are. And how low the chances are to actually see one flying.
Ehm...exactly at that moment a Starship flew over us :DDDDDDD
thefridgeman one used to fly out of New Orleans International (now Armstrong International) sometime in the early 90's I believe. They definitely catch your eye like no other aircraft. :)
thefridgeman
Was working at IDI when a Starship landed. I said 'You'll never see one of those again'. Just then a second one called final for 28. 3 days later a third different one landed.
I'm glad to have been that wrong.
I noticed a lot of those Burt Rutan style planes do a bit of a shimmy from side to side on take off. I'm not a pilot, but wondering why that is.
I prefer the Berkut variant myself. Rutan is THE MAN !!
the first plane the passenger plane with the conard wing has been flying out of Buttonville Markham for the last twenty years twice a day five days a week
The owner of AEA Electronics would fly his Starship over the Hara Arena during the Dayton Hamvention in the Mid eighties. You knew what it was by the drone of the turbine exhaust through the props, too bad Beech / Raytheon pulled it from service after getting screwed by the company that was the only authorized service provider wound up overcharging Beech on the "lifetime" maintenance that was offered on this aircraft. I think it cost Beech even more to destroy the composite airframes at which point they stopped from what I have learned and offered them to the few individuals who outright owned their aircraft as spares without an Airworthiness certificate. There is a possibility that one company re certified one of these airframes as an Experimental and continues to fly it today.
excelent!
Extraordinary! Many thanks for sharing! Too bad there wasn't a Rutan Vari Viggen, his very first full scale design!
+Alejandro Irausquin We tried to find a Vari Viggen and couldn't. Wish we could have!
+longez83dave Marvelous result nevertheless. My fault for not being there this year.
What is this thing at 2:40? I'd replace intercity bus with it.
remember25october a Beech Starship
I remember 25 october 1985. I hit a walnut tree in a toyota pick up at 9:34pm......
Luke Warmwater did you get hurt?
Used to be an everyday common occurrence to see a Starship flying around............. if you lived in Wichita 😎
If i had the money in the bank i would have a starship built with modern material and technique.I colud'nt give a sh*t if there are better planes out there JUST LOOK AT IT!
Too bad the ARES close air support jet wasn't included. That is one great plane.
Bell should have changed to Jet Engines on the Starship instead of Discontinuing it.
The Klingons have arrived.
Same old design for the last 40 years! No Disruptive Tech here!
yeah... exactly, useless Rutan not pushing not creating anything new...
Just like the Klioschorn...
Did John Denver like the Long-EZ?
Challenger Thirtyninesixtyseven ... He did like it but he didn't know how to fly it. So sad 😔
@@desertdenizen6428IRC, what led to Denver's fatal crash was he failed to ascertain the fuel level in the plane, and ran out over the ocean.
Hoomi2 ... From the accident reconstruction and eyewitness testimony, he failed to determine the amount of remaining fuel in the primary tank before takeoff. When just offshore, the engine ran out of fuel and in the process of switching to the secondary tank, it is believed he inadvertently pushed forward on the side stick, which is very sensitive and dove the plane into the ocean. The fuel switching valve was located above and to the left of the pilot. The engine was developing full power upon impact.
@@desertdenizen6428 It's been a long time. What I remembered was that, at the time, the primary cause of the crash had been determined to be the low fuel. I recall something as well about it not actually being his aircraft yet - he was taking it up to evaluate before buying, but again, it's been many years since it was in the news. At any rate, familiarity with the aircraft would certainly have helped, and likely would have prevented the crash, as would having checked the fuel and either topped off the primary tank, or switched to the secondary before take-off.
@@Hoomi2 Just to put a fine point on this subject, eyewitnesses reported the engine sputtering, indicating a fuel problem but JD was able to switch over to the second tank. This was discovered during the accident investigation, fuel valve in the secondary position. Again the engine was heard to be developing full power while in the fatal dive and the prop was mangled, indicating full RPM. The speculation is he accidentally pushed the right rudder pedal when turning his body to move the tank selector. Unfamiliarity is what killed him and a great shame and loss for us all.
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I like Kolb better as an aircraft designer... he faced the same problems I do... how to build the barest possible minimalist aircraft using the least amounts of materials and horsepower with the simplest possible design. His Flyer and then Ultrastar were brilliant... and Firestar even better (though now sold way out of a poor person reach). Think Model T.
Other than maybe his first designs and the Quickie, nobody can build a Burt Rutan design because they are just way too god damn expensive, complicated, and use exotic materials. Which kind of makes them... irrelevant.
+CHOPPERGIRL AIRWAR I think you are confused somewhere/somehow. A long EZ is too expensive? Fiberglass and blue buoy foam are too exotic and expensive? I wonder why the Long EZ was such a HUUUUUUGE success flown by thousands of people using power from VW's to Convair's. I love Kolb designs too but they are a totally different category.
+robajohnson I ended up getting a Volmer Jensen VJ-24W motor glider... air-war.org
CONGRATS!
+robajohnson Its like an early Kolb Flyer, same time period. More of a project plane kit frame, an assload of work to do before she has any chance of flying again. But at that price, how could I say no?
Yeah! I looked over your website! it's going to be big project but it will be a great flyer!
ДА ЗДРАВСТВУЕТ ИНЖЕНЕРНАЯ МЫСЛЬ АМЕРИКИ ! !
The EZ Long aircraft................DEATHTRAP....
Obviously you know nothing about it so please keep your ignorance to yourself
Dragon43ish. Your probably dyslexic, but obviously you know nothing about the Long EZ your flapping your lips about!
Me lembrou um pouco o 14-Bis do Santos Dumont o inventor dos aviões.
this is some serious gihbly stuff xD
Neat but still prefer the Avanty piaggio
Can't buy a new Starship anymore! I love that airplane the most. So elegant.
The Avanti Piaggio is not even close to the Beech 2000 Starship, that's like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Ferrari.
The Piaggio has far more in common with the Beech King Air than the Starship. The Piaggio is a nice business turboprop aircraft, the Starship is a P-51 Mustang that seats 8
Karen Audrey Todd
*The Avanti Piaggio is not even close to the Beech 2000 Starship, that's like comparing a Ford Mustang to a Ferrari*
With the Piaggio being the Ferrari, yes?
chillout1109 amen!
@@karenaudreytodd I spent 4 years working on the Starship, nice idea but it was a dog. The Avanti is streets ahead of it!
Lel, XP-55 on steroids.
The Starship is an ugly airplane. The design seems unfinshed, chiseled and clumsy.
The Piaggio P180 which has a similar design pattern is an elegant beauty compared to the Starship.
It might be an indicator that some hundreds of P180 are in service but you can count the Starships with your fingers.