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Skip to the 'How The Mod Works' chapter if you only care about the technical explanation!
If you have looked around on twitter lately, you may have seen people talking about a mod which seems to be changing the game dramatically. Zoe first showed it to the public, in a video where she completes a level that is seemingly impossible in terms of FPS. Then numerous people came out showing some really good progress on hard levels… on 60fps. Many people have said this raises the skill ceiling immensely, and others have been asking when they could get to try it. So firstly, it’s important to say that this mod is out right now. But what does it actually do? How are players managing to get insane progress on 60fps? And what if I told you that by using this mod, you could have an input precision equal to 1000fps, or even 8000fps? This is the Click Between Frames mod.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:47 History of FPS
02:11 The Lag Problem
04:27 The 2.2 Problem
05:54 The Solution
06:29 How The Mod Works
08:33 Other Questions
10:01 Is It Cheating?
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Undertale - Another Medium
Celeste - Scattered and Lost
Celeste - Celestial Resort (Good Karma Mix)
Super Monkey Ball 2 - Clock Tower
Undertale - Death By Glamour
Kirby 64 - Theatre
Celeste - Mirror Temple (Mirror Magic Mix)
Celeste - Prologue
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I can't wait to straight fly on 1 fps
I did op straight flying on 15
@@Sergonizer aint no way 💀
@@RispGD it's not that hard, probably a tiny tad harder than normal 240fps completion because your visuals lag behind a bit
cant wait to beat ship grandmaster on 3fps
Can't wait to beat fried Legg on 20 fps
Probably the most underrated GD creator
Agreed, he’s very knowledgeable
i realllly hope this gets added to vanilla gd (also with an option to toggle it off so mini game levels that utilize frame counters dont break)
Triggers still work via framecount
I used this mod and tried to play Slaughterhouse. I didn't beat it on first attempt, I think this mod is a scam...
real
True
lmfao who are u zoink 💀
so true
real!!
The stuff Syzzi has done for the GD community is great, I'd donate but I'm broke myself. I hope we can have Rob add this to vanilla
I really think that even if it can be considered cheating
This doesn't allows you to just beat a level, it makes everything more comfortable, makes things precise and respond when YOU CLICK and i think it should be the way geometry dash had to be from the very start
"This is cheating, you're nerfing the game with a mod"
I don't think so, In my opinion, this mod just make things works as should have worked, and i think it's the only mod on story of Geometry dash that modifies and improves gameplay that i think anyone, the most casual to the most tryhard player would be able to have and no matter who, it will just improve their experiences
If a casual can play comfier, can give a better performance, the same as the pro, and if even like that this is consider by cheating, then i'm happy of cheating on this game, because if i beat a level, it wasn't for the mod, it was because i could, i just have precise controls to play instead of playing with 1ms of delay on a very precise game like this one
I read opinions on the comments, respect please
“How Heres how it works” *ad pops up* 💀
I hope it gets out on mobile soon. Otherwise it is really unfair for mobile players like me
@BucketOidIt might work since the touch sampling rate of mobile phones are usually double the refresh rate, and there are phones which already has 720hz touch sampling rate so this might get implemented.
I wouldn't say it's necessarily a bad thing, it's still a mod "in discussion" for legitimacy and is still a new thing that is mainly to try out and test for now, unless rob manual adds it which he may.
I usually play mobile but I did have a good time just playing random stuff using vsync with it on my old "30hz" pc (that or it's bugged, settings show 60hz), if you don't have a pc then I'd see your issue, but maybe it'll get added for a game update/mod update later on.
you don't need to worry bc currently using that mod to complete levels makes the completion unvalid
@@luigiweegee7152finally, a use for my overkill phone
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While it is a huge advantage, it’s a bugfix that is completely free and open source as well as being accessible very easily
Using it is cheating
@@ENDI8089the demon list is gonna allow it
@@BaconSizzleWasTaken but thats too much of an unfair advantage
@@ENDI8089 is your decision more important than the demon list’s
Cheating mostly for stuff that can't be done humanilly like using speedhacks To higher up the Clicks or noclipping which is obv playing against game's physics to pass the Blocks
This doesn't attack The fps nor the TPS nor physics of the game, it just makes the game how it should've been
you click = icon moves
Not You click = wait for next frame = ending 4 steps of the frame = Icon moves
You can see that on 15 fps challenges, they will be no longer glitchy easy With this mod@@ENDI8089
the way you explained how click between frames worked was amazing. really hoping that rob decides to add this into the vanilla game in 2.21!
Nah 2.206 or 2.207 since 2.21 is not releasing any time soon lol
Amazing how you explain how the mod works in a simple to understand way, and the overall history of fps/tps bypass with visual illustration is the cherry on top✨
Fantastic video, you explained flawlessly how the mod behaves, something I kind of expected given your past experience with botting. Glad it was you that made this video and not someone else
Also nice LTG at the end LOL
viwi slaughterhouse
i dont get why people dont like this mod. it just makes the game play better in every single way
like genuinely im curious why people dont like this
REALLY hop rob adds this
Its not that people dont like it. Im against this mod being allowed, but I want it to be added to the game.
I have a 16000hz mouse.
You are an amazing creator. This video was extremely high quality, educational and it was entertaining throughout the entire video. There are so many underrated GD creators, but you are BY FAR the most underrated one. I'll be subscribing and turning on notifications, can't wit for the next video :D
This is such a well made video! You explain everything so clearly! Keep it up :D
Very well explained and researched, great job with this vid
Also as someone who's tried it I really hope this gets implemented / allowed, it makes the game feel so much more fair and fun, the inputs are so precise that it takes any sort of delay rng out of the picture which feels absolutely amazing.
I agree. I feel like those who don't want it in the game are gatekeeping in a sense, or they just don't understand
good video and summarizes what is fps bypass pretty well
good job alex
This mod is amazing. I was able to do decent noclip runs on VSC on 60 fps. If it was inplimented into the game we should be able to toggle it off tho because if not then levels like 3shih way off limits
Used the mod and got really good and fast progress on avernus, not to mention that I have WAY less lag that playing on the 2.1 gdps. I think it should be allowed for the demonlist because it makes it fair for everyone
technically it already is fair for everyone on 2.2
does this mean every level is possible on 1 fps?
Yea
TIME FOR ACHERON ON 8 FPS GG EASY LOL@@UrLocalNoLifer
@@fortnitehero3579 cyclolcyc 0.5 fps challengge
@@UrLocalNoLifer i thought 1 fps cyclolcyc but how about 0.0000001 fps probably won't work just satire lol
Frame perfects are no more, good luck making impossible levels now
great video, but should've mentioned how it doesn't change the game's physics at all, unlike the 2.1fps/2.2tps bypass
upd: ok sorry you briefly mentioned that in the outro
I also plan to make a video on this, but this from a casual player (who plays on PC and mobile also)
There should be a list for this mod instead of allowing it in the demonlist (or it tells you if they used it)
Looks good though so I think maybe they could add it on the demon list
will this ever be possible adding on mobile version? more specifically android
unsure
@@alexplaysgd😦
Someone tell me how to use it. So d oyou just download it on geode, restart and boom ur op now? or is there like setting up to do
you may need to set custom keybinds but yeah basically
before i had over 100 attempts each day when i was trying to beat electrodynamics but after the mod i beat it in 25 attempts (same day, same run)
Real?
@@srimattheuniverseshow real. i aint even kidding this mod has done me wonders!
@@phkxv tysm
How do i activate it it dosent seem to be working i used 5 fps and still when i clicked late it wouldent move but cbf means i can click anywhere in the avaliable frames instantly right?
i get more input delay with this mod, i thought it was supposed to help eliminate it
Your understanding of this game and its physics are incredible bro
thanks, any other ideas for videos that would be interesting?
@@alexplaysgd this feels like a big question and im sorry but i dont have any ideas! Though just know you have a huge underrated talent and your a hidden gem in this community
@@Vio9740 thank you so much :)
I checked keys which is the place that apparently has the bypass and I cant find it?
So is this basically just like having infinite TPS? (or more accurately the exact tps as your mouse's polling rate)
yes
Does this mod also affect the physics and hitbox of the cube?
W video, man pls make a vid when the mod came to mobile, because play with that on mobile will be so cool.
Does anyone know if this mod is coming to android anytime soon?
this whole things actually insane
before this could get implemented into vanilla some problems need to be fixed
1. I have talked to people experiencing massive lag with this mod. If it were implemented to vanilla it'd just bring massive lag to those people.
2. It works best on 60, 80, 120 and 240 fps, meaning people who play values like 75, 144, 165, 288 would not benefit from it which would be unfair.
This is an amazing video 🔥
fantastic video
there's no reason to not allow this. the only arguments I have heard is that a) it isnt accessible to mobile players: this is totally irrelevent as mobile players can almost never be top players anyways so is no reason to limit the rest of the community -the majority of the list community.
and b) it's not vanilla so it's bad -this is just silly since the only basis this is an argument is just a stupid preference without any kind of reasoning or basis.
Samsung players can actually access it, and if we can get our big names convinced, it can easily sway Rob’s opinion because until today, only a few invested people knew about the mod, but today there’s a lot more. We just need to spread the word
Also hold up I just realized you’re the person who got into a 25 message long thread with watchpiggy 😭
@@exiled_shadegd yeah that's me, read that if u wanna know what i think
@@GadoGD I did lol, I replied something like “this is a very long thread in the world” or something
Mobile will get that mod soon. Stuck at 165hz for now tho
We need mobile version of this. I can't even bypass fps on 60hz in 2.2
Edit: YOOO NVM TPS BYPASS IS OUT FOR ANDROID YESSSSSSSS
for now you could just use tps bypass, its the closest thing we are probably getting to this.
@@LNP618 oh yes, tps bypass is finally out for mobile (qolmod)
came from viwi awesom vid you explained this really well i now understand this alot more than i did :)
Amzing video!!
is the 4 ticks (1,1,1,1) how it is by default? So the input tracking ticks at 60x4 = 240hz polling rate on 60hz? What if I play at 120hz, does the input polling rate then become 120x4 = 420hz? Or is it constantly always the same based on my mouse's polling rate hardware, like 1000hz throughout all fps I play at?
playing on 120fps will result in you having 2 ticks, so 120x2 still equals 240. playing on 240fps just gives you one click
@@alexplaysgd oh so the polling rate is a constant 240hz without the mod at any frame rate?
@@ririishere yes
Do you know how vanilla 2.2's FPS option works with this? I play visually at 120 FPS with the in-game FPS value set to 480 as I noticed it reduced screen tearing. From what I can tell, due to 2.2 I'm basically playing at 240Hz due to the limit Rob put in.
So for the visuals/physics/inputs graphs you've shown (e.g. 7:26), I assume I'd be on 120/240/240 without the mod, and 120/240/1000 with the mod. Is that correct? And if so, do you think it'd make a noticeable difference for me playing low-mid level extremes. I played on 60Hz for years before returning to the game in 2.2 with a higher refresh rate, so it already feels extremely responsive playing the way I do now.
Thanks in advance for any help.
for the reduced tearing you need to understand how monitors work. imagine a number line, with 240hz steps. if you have 360hz steps, they won't match up. this introduces screen tearing and stuttering
instead, multiply the refresh rate of your monitor
@@bluemangroup_1828 I understand that, but in my case setting it to 480 has less screen tearing than setting it to 240. Both of these numbers should line up with both the game's 240Hz and my monitor's 120 FPS, but 480 is better for some reason.
@@lewisarmitage9020 that makes sense, more frames on a multiple of your RR = better picture
does vsync need to be off or on
Bro you're underrated you deserve more subs
I could play sonic wave on 60fps, it's actually insane.
omg i hope this comes out on mobile it would make the mobile skill ceiling so much higher
Never thought I'd say there is something OP in Geometry Dash
So is the fps bypass not needed anymore? If I played with the mod on 60 would it be better than playing on 240? I dont really understand this😢
yes
Only inputs are affected. There's still benefits to having a high refresh rate monitor that can display high FPS values like perceived smoothness.
@@alexplaysgd If i try to play on 60 i get bad Screentearing '_'
To be honest I think a HRR monitor is more cheaty than this mod, it establishes an unfair advantage by establishing a paywall through superior hardware. This mod equalises this and makes this not a problem
i really wanted to ask, is this mod counting as hacks?
Now I feel bad for players who have 125Hz polling rate keyboards, it's like they played on 125 FPS...
Really good video. Best explaination.
Bruh levels like kocmoc avernus I can't play cuz the lag of the 60hz
you have 2% on acheron i would not be blaming it in the lag just get better
9:00 is this not just physics change if the level is not possible on vanilla
I still really like the mod and hope it becomes standard but I feel like it's a little disingenuous to say it doesnt change physics while also including that
physics aren't changed, but the game's engine is notified about your input at a higher rate, so that when it does its calculations for your position on the next game state, it accounts for that input timing, without "sticking" it to the next frame. in other words, there is no latency lag because the game processes your inputs almost immediately
@@zohnannor that makes sense, but I dont understand how that makes gaps that dont align on vanilla work with the mod. From your description of what the mod does I'm assuming that the gap example is unintended behavior though
@@Collin0 well yeah you're right this is impossible on vanilla. vanilla ties the input polling rate to the physics update rate, this mod just makes those updates separate. I should've made that distinction clear in my comment
how do you install this mod
On Mac?
I understand very little of this video, and it's fantastic!
Android doesnt support?
I believe this mod should be counted as a part of the game for one reason and that is the FPS Bypass was accepted. the FPS bypass was a mod external to geometry dash, just like this one. It helped increase click precision, just like this one. And it was accessible only to some players, just like this one. This is just simply a more advanced FPS bypass in a way, and shouldn't be banned.
hey alex,
i’d like to ask on what happened to yBot 2 and why we aren’t getting any new news about it? Also will it ported to geode
in the #supporter-general channel in the ybot server, kepe said he's cooking up ybot 3 and a working prototype is made rn, it fixes sfx, all the crashes, performance issues, and has a bunch of qol (quality of life) features
not sure why kepe didn't give much news anywhere else
i do not know if ybot will ever be ported to geode
you can use xzbot (geode mod) instead
fantastic video
wait till this shit come out on mobile im boutta go crazy 😤😤
you can use geode on android
@@Velocifyerthe mod itself
RopTop needs to get this implemented asap
Thanks for changing my view. 11 minutes ago I was against this mod and thought that using it and adding it to the base game is stupid. Also I didn't think the mod was even a big deal.
i think
this is the way gd has to be, in just think about it, 8000hz was a little bit pointles because it just was an advantage for frame consistency where for example 500hz PoRate was higher than 240hz FraPerSecond but it just have some delay for the size of the data, and 8000hz its just so small sized data that allows you tu have 240hz or even better 540hz without that small delay that could cost you a frame, but with this i can get juice from my 8000hz polling rate devices and not only from the small delay sized data
and people that have 8000hz devices but under 120hz screens are just way free
this is how gd has to be from the beginning, i can use a Wave and a Ship as a pro with my 82hz (overclocked) monitor from my moms laptop, im hitting sonic wave parts, zodiac start and timing challenges from top way easier than without this
sorry if you don't understood something, im not so good with english
yo hablo español
the main issue with increasing physics steps was lag, so if this really, if implemented propperly, wouldn't cause as much lag, then it should be fine
the second issue would be implementing this for all the stupid devices you can play gd on, because you can not implement this only for pc or else people on mobile would not be able to do that timing paqoe did showcasing the mod
and if we solve all that then the third issue is if this is really better, you would think thats a dumb question but having a 60fps frame perfect become a 960fps frame perfect doesnt sound that fun
10:36 yeah good luck with that lmao
pd: can i ask why does this need geode node ids to work i really dont like having that on (edit im an idiot it required custom keybinds not node ids)
how can you use geode without node ids lol
@@DecidiousGreens simple i just turn it off, i only turn it on when i have to check something with better info
@@thesac9009 what's the problem with it?
does it crash your device or something
@@DecidiousGreens it makes the editor look slightly different
Honestly, I don't know what to make of all these improvements, I feel like we just suck and that the only real GOATS are OG players like riot etc... a bit like today's society, the new generation is increasingly assisster (no relation but a little link anyway). in the end, are we really pushing human limits or are we lying to ourselves by cheating? I'll leave you to ponder.
It's true, I feel the same way !
i mean i'd like extremely responsive inputs as well
As much as riot was a good player, he was carried by hz when nobody even know what that was
@@gaidensmobilev2929 Yes, and now we're literally abusing the situation.
@@zeod2782 doesnt take away the fact that riot wasn't really the goat we thought he was
I dont see why this is not allowed 1 this is exactly like fps and tps bypass but better and less lagier we can see more players raising to the top spot and about mobile correct me if i am wrong but i am pretty sure this is gonna get added to mobile
im confused between the diff between hz and fps if u play vanilla gd with a 240hz monitor u still get 60fps dont u?
2.2 added an 'unlock fps' option to allow you to set fps, monitor hz just provides more clarity
Hz is the monitor refresh rate, it's kind of a cap of how many Frames per seconds you CAN get, your fps are your actual frames, you could have a 360hz monitor but if your gpu is unable to reach 360 fps then you won't actually see 360 frames every second
Wait a minute That means that now slaughterhouse acheron and avernus are possible on 60hz mobile!!!!???
TIDAL WAVE 100% (NEW HARDEST MOBILE DEMON) [60HZ MOBILE]
probably not mobile
The mod doesn't show up for me
So it’s essentially having uncapped fps, rather than a set number.
can i get it on mobile? (android)
in conclusion what is the best config to use i have a 60hz pc
I cant wait to beat cyclocic at 60fps!
che, si ese mod es ilegal, tambien jugar a 1000 fps?
it doesnt work for me, nothing changes
YO THIS VIDEO WAS SO GOOD THASNK YOU]
Bro when this mod on mobile
its pretty unfair to mobile players tho if it gets accepted as not cheating😅
Im only gonna use it if its confirmed to be allowed. I dont want to beat my first insane demon with hacks
if it only splits steps in half, doesnt that mean its like playing on 480?
i used a half split as an example. it can split the step in any way it wants
This is just my 2 cents but I personally think that while this would be a great addition to the game it should be optional. Many players such as myself enjoy the challenges that come with playing on lower refresh rates and making this a mandatory feature would in essence, kill the lrr community in its entirety. I think that giving players more options is always a good idea and that keeping this as an optional feature would be great from that perspective.
how about macros or frame strepper?
it doesn't work with them (taken from the description)
i hate how many people love this mod ITS BASICLY JUST TAPPING TRICE IN A FRAME
can't wait to beat tidal wave on 1 fps
This mod will turn me into a wave pro to a wave god lol
Can’t wait that tidal wave is getting downgraded to a normal 3 star and being daily level
If it works in mobile... man, i don't even want to think...
why almost every gd youtuber uses atleast one celeste soundtrack?
good vid and thank for explaining it to me :D
Will this ever come on mobile?
maybe
Okay.. Android when?
…so am I allowed to use it or not
so basically the only delay between clicks is your mouse/keyboard/touchscreen
yes
it feels more like placebo it doesnt help that much
It does help with inputs and have the game respond better but the difficulty of the game isn’t removed entirely as people make it sound.
it increases the skill ceiling, so the best players will be able to beat harder levels.