You're not expecting a feminist to paint an acurate depiction of reality while she's in the process of fabricating a narrative of opression, are you? Oh my sweet summer child.
Dunno if +Harry Balzak will see this, but your post seemed to have been flagged as spam. Weren't me, guv. If that was because it contained the word m a n s p l a i n i n g though, that would be very strange indeed.
Harry Balzak I tried to restore your comment, but I guess as it wasn't me who flagged it in the first place I can't make it show again. Although your other reply has also been tagged as spam. You seem to be in some kind of TH-cam purgatory.
I'm glad ghostbusters 2016 failed. Not because it ruined my childhood or because i'm misogynistic. Not even because it's a bad movie. But because of this dirty marketing campaign.
Dan Aykroyd is insane, always has been, and he has a financial stake in the new movie. Anything he says regarding it is going to be suspect but at least in that case I think he was mostly trying to defend a co-worker he respects in a situation that he doesn't fully understand. Don't take it out on his vodka sales...it's good fucking vodka.
Sony strong-armed Bill Murray with threats of litigation if he did not appear in the 2016 movie. He really doesn't want to be there. That's also why he didn't do anything in the movie beyond the bare minimum of showing up.
If only Sony would let everyone talk and not call everyone a misogynist, this would've been just another forgettable remake like Total Recall and Robocop. But that is just my ppinion.
+Maintenance Renegade thankfully a lot of people on gamergate and 8chan archived their shrieks just in case they try to make another movie a "political movement"
Absolutely. However, making a his stink about sexism and racism and whateverthehell, was the only way Sony figured they could convert any publicity-to-profits from this total trash.
Yep... it had a chance, but with the combined powers of a terrible director, horrific marketing and a lot of lies and contempt for the audience, it became the disaster it is.
At pretty much all levels on the making of this film they failed. Insulting fans. Not having the same comedy style as the old movies. Not having believable characters. Shitty Scoobydoo-level CGI. Bad director or at least not fitting for this movie. The new version of the theme song doesn't represent the current generation nor does it represent the original. I could go on all day...
Ironically, I think most people who don't like Leslie Jones don't like her because her entire shtick is the racist and overdone stereotype of a loud black woman.
Great video, but I wouldn't say comments that "brought up the feminism angle" qualify as anti-women. It's pretty clear based on how they spun the story, censored the comments, and slandered their critics that they were using feminism as a shield to protect the film from thoughtful criticism. Critiquing feminism isn't inherently anti-woman.
I think it sucks people who were criticizing the film got called sexist even though it wasn't even the women that were the problem I mean some of the most iconic films had badass women
This point bothered me as well. I distinctly remember looking at the comments and seeing plenty of people saying something like "Stop removing my comments, my opinion has nothing to do with feminist issues". Regardless of whether or not that was the reason comments were removed, the commenters seemed to think this was the case, and such a comment certainly qualifies as "bringing up the feminist angle" without actually taking any kind of stand for or against.
robocop, kill la kill, ghost in the shell, inuyasha, terminator, lord of the rings. All these things had some sort of female main character who play a big role to the story. Which heck, these are just the first ones to come to mind. Can't recall anyone hating on these things just due to there being women in them, that play some sort of important part to the story. If there were, they were a very very small group. For many seem to like them a fair bit going by ratings and review. Seems tv and movies have been fairy fine with showing women in not only in their shows but as major characters for a while now. So i'm not sure how this new ghostbuster movie was meant to be a big break through for women, when it has been done before, having main female characters.
I don't think that's the point they're making; instead I think what they're saying is that people associate anti-feminism with anti-women, and they're labeling the comments as anti-women because they're against the feminist slant in the film.
crazybuizel Which even with going by that line of logic and grouping them all in the anti women bit. It still only made up a small % of the comments. So the largest possible numbers and it still made up a minor number of comments. Which i think might just hurt the point people hate women more. For even with taking the large possible number, it's still a very very minor group of people.
You drop a bad trailer. You insult genre fans in your press circuit before the film. You straight up attack James Rolfe (AVGN) for saying the movie doesn't look good, that he is against reboots of classic films, and will therefore skip it. It gets middling reviews and poor word of mouth. Yet, despite Sony Markeeting being idiots, this movie would have made them money if it just had a sane budget. Sony over spent making the movie and marketing it, that is the primary reason it failed. Not men's rights activists, not angry anti- reboot genre geeks.
@@zombified_pariah7720 Considering they've made flops like this for decades and still haven't gone out of business means it'll never happen in your lifetime.
Not to mention the original had a budget of $30 million and the remake had a budget of $144 million. Clearly that amount of money wasn't spent accordingly.
@@heezythecasual Sadly we seem to be in an era where you can have an opinion, but only if it's positive, unless you are supporting white men, or is against any non Caucasian human. Personally I'd fight for someone to have the rights to say their opinion even if I fully disagree with it, but that probably flag me as a rather horrible person. Kind of miss the 90s, and earlier, things were less shitty.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was just taking the piss, and I fully agree with you, crazy how the world is rn, I have even tried to defend some situations for women and have someone go “what do u know, ur a white man” 🤦🏻♂️
+chopperbubba what sjws? It was Sony, who are motivated by greed. they successfully created this fake Scandal or series of fake scandals to sell movie tickets, and it worked. It isn't going to work for long, of course, because as Mike said, Word of Mouth. But they got a lot more positive press about a movie that otherwise simply would have gotten press about how disappointing it was. some people want to turn everything into an sjw issue. When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina.
+trekyz pretty much this gg sjws you try to inject your identity politics on everything and now people are fighting back fuck you universities and tumblr for breeding these idiots
+John Clavis Then again it could be argued it's the sjw crowd that makes it possible for greedy companies like Sony to get away with shit like this. If there weren't people ready to rabidly jump on every little controversy that pops up, Sony would've just looked like an complete idiot.
Yet this same SJW crowd Sony was pushing for DIDN'T support the film at all. The box office numbers show this as it only made 158 million worldwide as of yesterday (and it needs to make 500 million to make it's money back and profit). So these same idiots who were bashing men calling them man babies, ignoring valid criticism from James Rolfe (AVGN) then calling him a man baby, ect... NONE OF THEM SUPPORTED THE MOVIE WHEN IT WAS RELEASED. It's the same thing over and over again with that crowd. There have been games like Mirror's Edge 2 and small indie games that catered to them and their ideals and did they support the games.... NO they didn't support anything. These guys don't support anything and yet they are the ones who cried the loudest. Why do people still cater to them is beyond me.
I'm disappointed to see you guys jump on the bandwagon with this irrational, blind dislike of a movie that's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. I like Ghostbusters 2!
Ah, fair enough! I know a lot of people dislike 2, and I can see where they're coming from to an extent. But I still enjoy it, and the underground sequence alone justifies it's existence to me.
I love it when you guys make videos like this. The analytical videos like this, the Plinkett reviews, the Jack and Jill Half in the bag and others are what keeps me coming back to Red Letter Media. It's so great to see people making smart cultural critiques in a unique, entertaining way!
***** I totally agree that it wasn't as good as the first one. But it's not a complete throw away either. It was in keeping with the time it came out in, it was funny, it kept the continuity of Ghostbusters going. And it did okay at the box office. This new movie; at soon as it attempts to become a Ghostbusters movie it,falls apart.
I watched the second one a lot as a kid as I had it recorded on video tape for some reason. I was surprised to learn how much hate GB II got. I went back and watched it a few weeks ago, I still enjoyed it.
Yeah, I'm surprised too. I watched it a bunch of times as a kid and I put it in the Wayne's World 2 category of "not as good as the original, but still pretty good".
+The Pickles Space Cop a.k.a Holden M'Dickie - Melissa McCarthy Detective Ted Cooper - Jane Lynch Agnon Ahn - Leslie Jones (is that racist?) Grigg McCool - Tina Fey Officer Zorba - Kevin James Directed by Uwe Boll Screenplay by M Night Shmalbadams
The single best video talking about this crappy movie and pointing out all of Sonys bull to make anyone who dislikes it seem like they are part of that small percentage of assholes.
I disagree on this. Most of the information they used was already covered by Midnight's Edge months ago, who also extensively listed their sources. You can expect that level of detail from a German TH-camr. I think you would enjoy the Midnight's Edge channel. Their coverage on the Fantastic Four controversy was also very good.
Interesting thing about the statistical breakdown in this video. Is that the proportion of women haters, is actually lesser than the proportion of genuinely psychopaths we'd expect to see in a group. It is estimated that around 1% of the population are psychopaths (that doesn't mean they're serial killers). It just means they have the neurological condition psychopathy. Which means they have a very limited, if non-existent, ability to empathise.
***** There was indeed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36380247 50% were sent by women, 10% the gender couldn't be ascertained and 40% were sent by men. (estimate). From this article: "A 2014 study from cosmetics firm Dove found that over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five were sent by women."
Everything RLM has reviewed has been funnier than the movie itself. Like they said they rarely review comedies, except when its a movie with women who should be working at Etsy.
THIS is what I love the most from RLM. Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst are fun as hell and all that, but when they teach you things while still being funny (Like the Plinkett Reviews, and how much they showed about behind the scenes with the prequels) they become something else.
“It is very good. The people are just made because they are sexist and really liked the older one. In my opinion I saw them both and I like this one better. Thanks Sony!” That comment looks like it was typed by a child, do you really think they or most people would pay attention to the studio that puts a movie out? That was utter bullshit probably typed by some Sony intern pretending to spell stuff wrong. What a horrible company.
Calling people names because they don't like your film is definitely going to get people to go see your movie. Yes, act like a little child and throw a temper tantrum, and people will cave in and go see a movie that'll ruin the Ghostbusters as a whole.
excuse me mike strider, as of the second of august 2016 jay is a man (please comment when he starts transitioning so i can edit this comment with an apology thanks)
Remember when they tried to cancel Angry Video Game Nerd for just saying he wasnt going to review it? His subs jumped by like 100,000 in a week after that nonsense. Good job, media!
He is actualy insane. Check out some other interviews with him. Guy is a complete conspiracy nutjob. He also believes in ghosts...i remember he said he had sex with a ghost. Crazy dude
Well, of course You say something negative about women or minorities, you're immediately given a membership to your local Klan branch That's how it works, right?
This was just a sad time for this film. People were cruel, mean, and immature towards one another, because a company didn't want to admit their movie wasn't as good as it could of been.
I'm 35 years old, married, two kids, stable career, love all of the female cast, absolutely loved them on SNL, but the movie was god damn awful and didn't make me laugh one bit. Horrible direction and essentially minimalistic script, where feels like the director told them to "be in an alley and be funny".
Mary Poppins The Bride (Kill Bill) Coralline Jones (Coralline) Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird) Black Widow (Most of the MCU) Most of the cast of Eulogy Much of the cast of Love/Actually. Oh, hello there. I was just posting a bunch of characters that proved all of the statements about how there are no women in movies wrong. Feel free to add more!
Princess Leia Padme Amidala Rey Jyn Orso Ahsoka Tano (Clone Wars theatrical release and TV series. Also Star Wars: Rebels TV show) Scarlet Witch Wonder Woman Hermoine Granger Eowyn Arwyn Galadriel Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games) Ripley Dr. Louise Banks (Arrival) Dr. Ryan Stone (Gravity) Melissa Lewis (The Martian) Dorothy (Wizard of Oz) Scarlett O'Hara (Gone With the Wind)
i literally cant believe im so old and this was 7 years ago but i know that it's the single most important reason why youtube eventually removed the dislike or thumbs down public count
Bill Murray was the only hold out over the years for a real 3rd Ghostbusters movie (even Rick Moranis was going to come back). I'm glad Bill was forced into it and is uncomfortable, because this train wreck is all due to him.
Proud Anti-feminist here....and yeah, this movie was trash. And NO....being Anti-Feminist does NOT mean I'm sexist or hate women, it means I'm Anti-Feminist.
I dont understand what grounds they could have to use legal action against Bill Murray. How can they force someone to be in a movie if they dont want to?
I'm a misogynist and for that reason I didn't enjoy the new Ghostbusters movie. If it was an all male cast with the same jokes being done, I think it would be my favorite movie of the year.
The problem I have with this movie is the same problem I have with the new Rocketeer movie, the new wolverine, the new Thor, etc. Instead of creating original properties that headline women, they just take the familiar and add [INSERT CURRENT TREND HERE] to "modernize" it. Birds of Prey would be perfect for the silver screen but seeing as Warner Bros/DC made a turd of a TV show, I'll probably never get to see it.
Wait... What? It's not suprising that X-23 would take over if Logan was killed, And she in no way just appeared, she's been around for like 13 years now.
Well that's Hollywood for you. "What about an original IP about a female protagonist?" "Nah, that's never going to sell. Just take some old franchise and replace the men with women."
She has been around for 13 years...as X-23. But that name doesn't sell comics. Wolverine does. But since Disney Marvel don't own the movie rights to Logan, or Fantastic Four, X-men, or mutants, they would rather kill off or phase out characters than just give free advertising to Fox films.
+Courtney Johnson Have you ever seen Alien? Terminator? You know, cultural icons that both starred strong female characters and came out around 30 years ago?
Honestly thank you for ending the video with Melissa McCarthy being sensible. One of many shitty things the narrative surrounding the reception of Ghostbusters 2016 caused is that it makes everyone associated with the movie out to be the same kind of radical man-hater bloggers on the internet portray themselves to be. The fact that Paul Feig totally bought into it and ran with it didn't help at all - ironically he made his "brilliant" actors look bad themselves by latching onto a misguided and incorrect narrative. Maybe the smirks on their faces were because they knew there was no movie here and that Paul Feig is a hack director. What has he even done since?
@@zombifiedpariah7392 can u please dissect with your infinite wisdom, what about her quote at the end is not sensible? i don't want to pollute your mind with my opinions but it seems like it's in direct agreement with the thesis of the video as a whole. do you disagree with the video as a whole?
@@Sora_Halomon Have you ever heard of "gaslighting"? Have you ever heard of "hypocrisy"? It doesn't take *iNFiNitE wIsdOM* to see what's wrong with that "quote", you chimp.
We need more Scientist Man. I mean honestly, we need more RLM in general, but dear lord do we need more Scientist Man and his rational, logical breakdowns of bullshit with the comedy stylings of his man children subjects.
Wow, that's awful. Most default sub moderators are absolute garbage so I guess that isn't too surprising. Remember what the /r/news mods did during the Orlando shooting? Yeah.
8:58 "How often do we see females in film and we don't...." Terminator - Sarah Connor Alien - Ellen Ripley True Grit - Mattie Ross Agora - Hypatia Million Dollar Baby - Maggie Fitzgerald The Brooke Ellison Story - Brooke Ellison Kill Bill - The Bride Hunger Games - Katniss Everdeen Silence of the Lambs - Clarice Starling Fargo - Marge Gunderson Supergirl - fucking Supergirl Spice World - The Spice girls CHECK YOUR FACTSSSS!
Love, love, love scientist mans take on 2016 Ghostbusters. Having a female version of one of my favourite films, does not make me feel empowered :( Just make us a good film with female leads instead!
It has a pretty wonderful prologue, I'll give it that. Everything prior to the Ghostbusters getting back together is hilarious. Then the movie's plot starts and it just dies
I watched it recently for the first time in years and years. I really enjoyed it. Didn't understand why it gets slagged off so much. Sure, it was never going to top the original, but it is decent.
Bill Murray looks like he literally has a gun stuck up against his back and is reading a prepared statement.
He was. They were going to shoot him with a law suit if he didn't comply
You can tell because it must be one of the rare moments ever being Bill Murray that he isn't funny.
Yup. That's some Soviet-era shit right there.
Fuck Murray this is all his fault for not doing a 3rd ghostbusters 🤬🤬🤬🤬🥵🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🥵🥵🥵🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤮🤕🤒😴😯🤬🤬🤯😵
Yeah but Bill Murray looks like that a lot LOL
"How often do you see women in films? Never."
Wut.
Kill Bill, Aliens, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Avengers, Room, Brooklyn, The Hunger Games, Star Wars.....
STOP OPPRESSING HER WITH YOUR FACTS!!!
You're not expecting a feminist to paint an acurate depiction of reality while she's in the process of fabricating a narrative of opression, are you? Oh my sweet summer child.
Dunno if +Harry Balzak will see this, but your post seemed to have been flagged as spam. Weren't me, guv.
If that was because it contained the word m a n s p l a i n i n g though, that would be very strange indeed.
Harry Balzak I tried to restore your comment, but I guess as it wasn't me who flagged it in the first place I can't make it show again. Although your other reply has also been tagged as spam. You seem to be in some kind of TH-cam purgatory.
Paul Feig is so dense. Every sentence he says has so few things going on.
Paul Feig: "I may have gone too far in a few places.."
Melissa is the key to all of this.
Levan Chkhenkeli
"I want that juicy McCarthy meat..."
Levan Chkhenkeli If we can get her eating.
isnt that what George Lucas said?
12:17 Scientist Man: _"Hey! Hey! No jokes allowed!"_
Jay: _"Is that what they told Paul Feig?"_
lol
*Yes*
Bubububuttt the whole movie was a joke
@@jerff5411 A very unfunny and depressing one at that.
I'm glad ghostbusters 2016 failed. Not because it ruined my childhood or because i'm misogynistic. Not even because it's a bad movie. But because of this dirty marketing campaign.
v01d666 that's why Hillary lost cause she tried to employ the same strategy
iamhughmun When she didn't have to, Trump was awful enough alone
your tinfoil hats a bit crooked.
As a woman, I agree. I can’t believe people fell for it...
@@ImmaLittlePip his name was "____ _____"
take me away from this world skull vodka
*Cough* "Very nice..."
Crystal Head Vodka??
But i hear it's a smooth vodka..
But he was forced to say it though, so
Dan Aykroyd is insane, always has been, and he has a financial stake in the new movie. Anything he says regarding it is going to be suspect but at least in that case I think he was mostly trying to defend a co-worker he respects in a situation that he doesn't fully understand. Don't take it out on his vodka sales...it's good fucking vodka.
Thank fuck Scientist Man was in this video instead of that hack fraud Mike.
That's like, just your ppinion, man.
Fuck you.
Yeah he would propably love this movie, like this other movie he liked
Yeah, that Jewy schlub is so annoying! He's not fair, balanced, and eloquent, like Scientist-Man.
Dump fuck loll thats mike you udiot
"I fail to see the humour" everyone who went to see Ghostbusters
I'm worried about my health as I age. Please take care of me!
@TheKirk15 A comedy that isn't funny is just painful to sit through. GB2016 was painful.
15 years? That's longer than it took to make Boyhood!
And Boyhood took 12 years to make!
it took 12 years to make thats longer than it took to make the GREAT WALL OF CHINA FUCK YOU IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO MAKE
That's right, Zeke Payne! Did you know Boyhood took 12 years to make?
12 years?!? That's how long it took to make Boyhood! Did you know it took them 12 years to make it?
12 years to make boyhood? Boyhood is so great! I didn't know it took 12 years!
Wow! 12 years is a really long time!
WOW! Just look how awkward things became when Bill said "its only because I knew these girls were funny."....... slow clapping. 2:05
Yeah, it felt like at that point everyone (including the audience) had a gun to their head.
"Clap...FUCKING CLAP!!"
I feel so sorry for him
Sony strong-armed Bill Murray with threats of litigation if he did not appear in the 2016 movie. He really doesn't want to be there. That's also why he didn't do anything in the movie beyond the bare minimum of showing up.
Please clap
Just checked out the original interview and sadly, people actually cheer. The clip was just edited this way as a joke for this video.
I got an early screening of The Force Awakens as well!
When I saw Star Wars: A New Hope...
The new SW films films that caused me to lose all hope...
Rick Lucey there is always a new hope
I saw it when it was just Star Wars... period. Those were the days. I also loved watching the Fonz back then.
In 1977!! NOW THAT'S EARLY!
(Slide-whistle)
I love Mike's almost laugh at 1:02
it illuminates my life, my soul
If only Sony would let everyone talk and not call everyone a misogynist, this would've been just another forgettable remake like Total Recall and Robocop. But that is just my ppinion.
I completely forgot about the total recall reboot till I watched a trailer of it in I think a x men DVD
+Maintenance Renegade
thankfully a lot of people on gamergate and 8chan archived their shrieks just in case they try to make another movie a "political movement"
Absolutely.
However, making a his stink about sexism and racism and whateverthehell, was the only way Sony figured they could convert any publicity-to-profits from this total trash.
And we can talk about the important issues, like why Jay is in a shirt five sizes too big for him.
Maintenance Renegade trajectory, lol.
I wanted so badly for that movie to be good. But it was just... Fucking awful.
Oh. Hi Tom
Yep... it had a chance, but with the combined powers of a terrible director, horrific marketing and a lot of lies and contempt for the audience, it became the disaster it is.
At pretty much all levels on the making of this film they failed. Insulting fans. Not having the same comedy style as the old movies. Not having believable characters. Shitty Scoobydoo-level CGI. Bad director or at least not fitting for this movie. The new version of the theme song doesn't represent the current generation nor does it represent the original. I could go on all day...
Blame SJWs
FeelsBadMan with the gun
I'm fucking dying! Did Dan Akroyd really mentioned the KKK and Aryan Nation on TV?!
That is okay it was on ET Canada. Nobody except Rick the Temp's mom watches that.
Ironically, I think most people who don't like Leslie Jones don't like her because her entire shtick is the racist and overdone stereotype of a loud black woman.
....There's an ET Canada.
.......
WELL, I learned something new.
Yup, and it's cancer just like ET.
www.etonline.com/news/193623_dan_aykroyd_slams_leslie_jones_racist_twitter_haters/
Omfg Jay's laugh when Mike says "I'm not surprised he's eating it, it is very phallic." Brings joy to me every time!! 11:24-11:50
Rich's defeated expression is pretty precious as well
"I hate you" laid over rich slow mo eating it just makes me laugh every time
Great video, but I wouldn't say comments that "brought up the feminism angle" qualify as anti-women. It's pretty clear based on how they spun the story, censored the comments, and slandered their critics that they were using feminism as a shield to protect the film from thoughtful criticism. Critiquing feminism isn't inherently anti-woman.
I think it sucks people who were criticizing the film got called sexist even though it wasn't even the women that were the problem I mean some of the most iconic films had badass women
This point bothered me as well. I distinctly remember looking at the comments and seeing plenty of people saying something like "Stop removing my comments, my opinion has nothing to do with feminist issues". Regardless of whether or not that was the reason comments were removed, the commenters seemed to think this was the case, and such a comment certainly qualifies as "bringing up the feminist angle" without actually taking any kind of stand for or against.
robocop, kill la kill, ghost in the shell, inuyasha, terminator, lord of the rings. All these things had some sort of female main character who play a big role to the story. Which heck, these are just the first ones to come to mind. Can't recall anyone hating on these things just due to there being women in them, that play some sort of important part to the story. If there were, they were a very very small group. For many seem to like them a fair bit going by ratings and review.
Seems tv and movies have been fairy fine with showing women in not only in their shows but as major characters for a while now. So i'm not sure how this new ghostbuster movie was meant to be a big break through for women, when it has been done before, having main female characters.
I don't think that's the point they're making; instead I think what they're saying is that people associate anti-feminism with anti-women, and they're labeling the comments as anti-women because they're against the feminist slant in the film.
crazybuizel Which even with going by that line of logic and grouping them all in the anti women bit. It still only made up a small % of the comments. So the largest possible numbers and it still made up a minor number of comments.
Which i think might just hurt the point people hate women more. For even with taking the large possible number, it's still a very very minor group of people.
Ghostbusters (2016) was a fartbag.
*Queefbag
they made it very clear with the first gag. The movie is a queefbag
More like queefbag.
If this movie were an album it would be the perfect "regretting the past" subject ;)
hashtag fartbag :O
You drop a bad trailer. You insult genre fans in your press circuit before the film. You straight up attack James Rolfe (AVGN) for saying the movie doesn't look good, that he is against reboots of classic films, and will therefore skip it. It gets middling reviews and poor word of mouth. Yet, despite Sony Markeeting being idiots, this movie would have made them money if it just had a sane budget. Sony over spent making the movie and marketing it, that is the primary reason it failed. Not men's rights activists, not angry anti- reboot genre geeks.
Sony are slowly eating themselves to bankruptcy with their greed. Only a matter of time ;)
@@zombified_pariah7720 Considering they've made flops like this for decades and still haven't gone out of business means it'll never happen in your lifetime.
@@dyveira Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it never will.
Not to mention the original had a budget of $30 million and the remake had a budget of $144 million. Clearly that amount of money wasn't spent accordingly.
Everyone is entitled to their own ppinion.
even if the opinion is wrong
Oh shit I just noticed who you are lol! Fuckin LOVE your channel man!
@@heezythecasual Sadly we seem to be in an era where you can have an opinion, but only if it's positive, unless you are supporting white men, or is against any non Caucasian human.
Personally I'd fight for someone to have the rights to say their opinion even if I fully disagree with it, but that probably flag me as a rather horrible person. Kind of miss the 90s, and earlier, things were less shitty.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was just taking the piss, and I fully agree with you, crazy how the world is rn, I have even tried to defend some situations for women and have someone go “what do u know, ur a white man” 🤦🏻♂️
Hey, stop judging dyslexic bots, ManChild.
Thanks for this guys, you perfectly summed up every bit of controversy surrounding this movie in 13 minutes and made it funnier than the movie.
+chopperbubba what sjws? It was Sony, who are motivated by greed. they successfully created this fake Scandal or series of fake scandals to sell movie tickets, and it worked. It isn't going to work for long, of course, because as Mike said, Word of Mouth. But they got a lot more positive press about a movie that otherwise simply would have gotten press about how disappointing it was. some people want to turn everything into an sjw issue. When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina.
"when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina." hahaha that is one of the best lines ever
+trekyz
pretty much this
gg sjws you try to inject your identity politics on everything and now people are fighting back
fuck you universities and tumblr for breeding these idiots
+John Clavis Then again it could be argued it's the sjw crowd that makes it possible for greedy companies like Sony to get away with shit like this. If there weren't people ready to rabidly jump on every little controversy that pops up, Sony would've just looked like an complete idiot.
Yet this same SJW crowd Sony was pushing for DIDN'T support the film at all. The box office numbers show this as it only made 158 million worldwide as of yesterday (and it needs to make 500 million to make it's money back and profit). So these same idiots who were bashing men calling them man babies, ignoring valid criticism from James Rolfe (AVGN) then calling him a man baby, ect... NONE OF THEM SUPPORTED THE MOVIE WHEN IT WAS RELEASED.
It's the same thing over and over again with that crowd. There have been games like Mirror's Edge 2 and small indie games that catered to them and their ideals and did they support the games.... NO they didn't support anything.
These guys don't support anything and yet they are the ones who cried the loudest. Why do people still cater to them is beyond me.
"ppinon" is my new favorite word
its hard to top "tshi"
Ohhhhhhhh, snap! That's right.
In terms of Ghostbusters 2016, I was disappointed in the cooking of the duck meat.
DONT YOU MEAN THE CUCKING OF COCK MEAT?
oops sorry had caps on
like that's just your ppinon man
everyone is entitled to their own ppinion
unless they are a straight white cis male. then they should just shut up and do what other people say. they had their turn!!!!
TheGM it's a quote from the video m8. Did you watch it even?
+Cubulous What he said is a joke as well.
Jacob Hill ah... me is dumb. Thanks!
Its fine. Jokes can sometimes be hard to gauge on the internet.
“Thanks Sony!” : a quote of a totally real person with a TH-cam account
Who thanks the production company for a movie? "Thanks, Miramax!"
@@MarkBentley "Thanks, Weinstein Company!'
Why are you guys better investigative reporters than the entirety of Gawker media?
gawker is dead. beware the huffington post.
Because Gawker pieces read like the scribblings of a 2nd year Poly-Sci major who just ate a pan of weed brownies.
rofl
I'm disappointed to see you guys jump on the bandwagon with this irrational, blind dislike of a movie that's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.
I like Ghostbusters 2!
Irrational, blind dislike? I think they covered why they didn't like it pretty well in their Half in the Bag review.
NextGenPants They did a Half in the Bag on Ghostbusters 2?
Holy shit, I don't know if I wanna watch that or not.
+Jake Kale oh hell I misread that comment. I think they touch on ghost busters 2 on the Re-View episode
Ah, fair enough! I know a lot of people dislike 2, and I can see where they're coming from to an extent. But I still enjoy it, and the underground sequence alone justifies it's existence to me.
They did do a commentary track of Ghostbusters 2, you can find it on their website.
I never quite got what any of the controversy has to do with exercise and eating habits.. I mean, surely you can be slim and a jerk too :P
PhantomStrider Hi strider!!!
Oh shiit its you
Makes me pretty happy to see you watch RLM
PhantomStrider HEYY I SUB TO U
It's too make them seem more unattractive. Which is funny because the same people who are saying this will freak out about people fat shaming.
I love it when you guys make videos like this. The analytical videos like this, the Plinkett reviews, the Jack and Jill Half in the bag and others are what keeps me coming back to Red Letter Media. It's so great to see people making smart cultural critiques in a unique, entertaining way!
This be funnier than the actual movie
To be fair, the movie set that bar pretty low
Even 5 years later, I thoroughly enjoy the RLM Ghostbusters videos. They're some of their best.
"that's just their way of marginalizing a normal person." - Norm MacDonald
More of a comment really.
...or so the Germans would have us believe...
Love seeing other norm fans, but what about Stalin?!
12:18 "Hey! Hey! No jokes allowed!" "Is that what they told Paul Feig?" Ouch!
7:25 That's not how TSHI is spelled.
They just meant Ishtar.
Skeptical Cat MY BLADDER IS OUT OF CONTROL! OOOOOAAAARGH!!!!
Ghostbusters II was not a bad movie, and it was a shit load better then GB 2016.
*****
I totally agree that it wasn't as good as the first one. But it's not a complete throw away either. It was in keeping with the time it came out in, it was funny, it kept the continuity of Ghostbusters going. And it did okay at the box office. This new movie; at soon as it attempts to become a Ghostbusters movie it,falls apart.
I watched the second one a lot as a kid as I had it recorded on video tape for some reason. I was surprised to learn how much hate GB II got. I went back and watched it a few weeks ago, I still enjoyed it.
I hope you didn't pay to see the new Ghostbusters
No I didn't, but I will never get that hour and forty minutes of my life back.
Yeah, I'm surprised too. I watched it a bunch of times as a kid and I put it in the Wayne's World 2 category of "not as good as the original, but still pretty good".
12:47 *Leslie Jones slams sexist Ghostbusters haters: 'What will you tell your daughter'?*
"Don't idolise Twitter bullies."
"You can do anything you want, but Leslie Jones hair can impale you."
11:30 I couldn't resist laughing after Mike told the joke and Jay laughed infectiously, while Rich threw his wrappers down in defeat.
ghost busters 2016 is the worst thing since my son
You promised you wouldn't say things like that any more, Dad. 3 years of therapy down the drain.
"The first question to ask is how often do we see females in film. And, we don't."
Sorry what?
@@onkelpappkov2666 lols!
@@onkelpappkov2666 GOLD!
She said females aren't seen in films. From this, we can conclude that all women are ninjas.
she probably meant protagonist, but stil her comment is hilarious
@@TheYutubesteve Apparently no one told her about The Force Awakens. Or any of the Alien films.
JAY CONFIRMED FOR HATING WOMEN
I love the way Jay just shits himself laughing when Mike deadpans an accusation that Rich likes Twinkies because they’re phallic. Genuine belly laugh.
10:46 can't tell if Dan Akroyd is trolling here or not.....
Dan Akroyd is fucking crazy.
It's mean that he would malign his fellow basement-dwelling, toy-opening, man-babies.
he's put on the spot talking about the racist assholes. NOT THE FANS.
Well that's just basic air traffic safety, man. You can't blame him for wanting that!
@Jason Rasmussen over a hundred years ago,things have changed.
I want Paul Feig to direct the Space Cop reboot.
All female cast.
+The Pickles Ha! women can't be cops!
oh shit I hope I don't get attacked by feminists IT WAS A JOKE
+The Pickles
Space Cop a.k.a Holden M'Dickie - Melissa McCarthy
Detective Ted Cooper - Jane Lynch
Agnon Ahn - Leslie Jones (is that racist?)
Grigg McCool - Tina Fey
Officer Zorba - Kevin James
Directed by Uwe Boll
Screenplay by M Night Shmalbadams
Hey at least it will be just as funny as the original
+Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen
Lora Story is pretty fucking hilarious, she'd rip the ass out of the role of Space Cop.
The single best video talking about this crappy movie and pointing out all of Sonys bull to make anyone who dislikes it seem like they are part of that small percentage of assholes.
I disagree on this. Most of the information they used was already covered by Midnight's Edge months ago, who also extensively listed their sources. You can expect that level of detail from a German TH-camr.
I think you would enjoy the Midnight's Edge channel. Their coverage on the Fantastic Four controversy was also very good.
Midnight's Edge was very informative, but dry. Redletter was less informative, but extremely entertaining (ymmv).
Interesting thing about the statistical breakdown in this video. Is that the proportion of women haters, is actually lesser than the proportion of genuinely psychopaths we'd expect to see in a group.
It is estimated that around 1% of the population are psychopaths (that doesn't mean they're serial killers). It just means they have the neurological condition psychopathy. Which means they have a very limited, if non-existent, ability to empathise.
*****
There was indeed.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36380247
50% were sent by women, 10% the gender couldn't be ascertained and 40% were sent by men. (estimate).
From this article:
"A 2014 study from cosmetics firm Dove found that over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five were sent by women."
And it seems a lot of them made it to the comment section here, too.
This might be the most important TH-cam video ever made lol
I love how obvious it is that Jay borrowed one of Rich's t-shirts for this video.
He's drowning in it
"I'm not surprised he ate it. It is very phallic."
I died.
The back of my head was almost in a red letter media video. Amazing haha
Blended with the twinkies and ecto cooler.
and some pizza pockets on the side
HAHAHAHAHA
you have one testical
More of Scientist Man!
Man, this was funnier than the movie itself :)
Everything RLM has reviewed has been funnier than the movie itself. Like they said they rarely review comedies, except when its a movie with women who should be working at Etsy.
To be fair, I've seen holocaust documentaries funnier than the movie. If George Carlin saw this movie growing up, he'd have become a tax accountant.
@@AraclainNow see, if you can't come equipped with better rebuttals, why do you even type? Why are you here?
Just leave. Go. There's the door.
THIS is what I love the most from RLM.
Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst are fun as hell and all that, but when they teach you things while still being funny (Like the Plinkett Reviews, and how much they showed about behind the scenes with the prequels) they become something else.
Sony Pictures and the sensationalist media are the real villains.
Props to Mike for keeping a straight face as he dropped the phallic comment
“It is very good. The people are just made because they are sexist and really liked the older one. In my opinion I saw them both and I like this one better. Thanks Sony!”
That comment looks like it was typed by a child, do you really think they or most people would pay attention to the studio that puts a movie out? That was utter bullshit probably typed by some Sony intern pretending to spell stuff wrong. What a horrible company.
Bot or non-native English speaker, probably.
Haha! Yeah the "Thanks Sony" cracked me up! Like who in the hell thanks the studio. Obviously was a planted comment.
Calling people names because they don't like your film is definitely going to get people to go see your movie. Yes, act like a little child and throw a temper tantrum, and people will cave in and go see a movie that'll ruin the Ghostbusters as a whole.
Honestly I was confused when I found out I'm a misogynist because I thought it didn't look like a good movie. Who'd have thought.
I had this open in the background and didn't realize at 10:46 that wasn't Mike just parodying comments, but an actual comment by dan akroyd. Holy hell
Pascal: "That's great."
Feig: "It's gonna be great."
Pascal: "That's gonna be great."
Feig: "It's gonna be great."
Pascal: "That's gonna be great.
gungas..
skosts.
Ok.
*We're all eagerly awaiting the new Star Wars: The Force Awakens Mr. Plinkett review.*
why would they rip something to pieces that was good?
+danuisortiz And yet it was still better than the shitty prequels......
(got it right that time lol)
Why would he make a review about it? It was a good movie.
Plinkett only makes reviews of shitty movies
Because 5 mins of Rich masturbating into a Droid(wants to remain anonymous, (pending legal action))
would be the same bit :)
No he did one of Titanic, which Mike liked, sort of.
“It was only ‘cuz I knew these girls were funny.”
- The only funny line of Ghostbusters 2016
Any redlettermedia video I can find that hasn't already been liked is a little gift
This was funnier than the movie. No surprise, there were no women in it. Badum tisss.
Pffffffffttt
*sides explode and are currently in orbit*
But Jay was there
+Mike Strider
You mean Susan.
excuse me mike strider, as of the second of august 2016 jay is a man
(please comment when he starts transitioning so i can edit this comment with an apology thanks)
Some idiot is gonna take that comment seriously, I bet it'll only take an hour.
They are doing a reboot of He-Man with a female lead. it is called She-Man. looks pretty funny.
What about her?
Well now it's He-Ra.
His final form is Ra-Man
I was using irony. I know there is a She-Ra, she came on after Heathcliff the cat when I was a kid.
How about that they made a movie called ´No Man´about a guy who is no man at all because he refuses to be a real man?
Move over Bill Nye the Science Guy! Mike Stoklasa the Scientist Man is in the house!
it's funny coming back to this in 2024 after seeing how this type of shilling is so played out and tired
Remember when they tried to cancel Angry Video Game Nerd for just saying he wasnt going to review it? His subs jumped by like 100,000 in a week after that nonsense. Good job, media!
11:15 - 11:45 is RLM gold.
ASMR with a vengeance.
"There are millions of klan members"
Do these people even live in reality?
oh wait, they live in Los Angeles.
I heard they had a rally in Dayton, Ohio recently and something like 9 people showed up.
Which is ironic, cause Los Angeles is filled with racism
I wanna believe he was trolling, he had a gun to his head like the rest of them
He is actualy insane. Check out some other interviews with him. Guy is a complete conspiracy nutjob. He also believes in ghosts...i remember he said he had sex with a ghost. Crazy dude
Well, of course
You say something negative about women or minorities, you're immediately given a membership to your local Klan branch
That's how it works, right?
This was just a sad time for this film. People were cruel, mean, and immature towards one another, because a company didn't want to admit their movie wasn't as good as it could of been.
When you look at Jay.. You can really tell he's wearing one of Rich's Ghost Buster's shirts
It's sickening how the media spins shit to get clicks.
I'm 35 years old, married, two kids, stable career, love all of the female cast, absolutely loved them on SNL, but the movie was god damn awful and didn't make me laugh one bit. Horrible direction and essentially minimalistic script, where feels like the director told them to "be in an alley and be funny".
"How often do you see women in films?" is answered by "How often do you see movies?" and "How often do you leave your home other than to go to work?".
I can't help but feel like Scientist Man was somewhat based on Egon Spengler.
Mary Poppins
The Bride (Kill Bill)
Coralline Jones (Coralline)
Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird)
Black Widow (Most of the MCU)
Most of the cast of Eulogy
Much of the cast of Love/Actually.
Oh, hello there. I was just posting a bunch of characters that proved all of the statements about how there are no women in movies wrong. Feel free to add more!
Princess Leia
Padme Amidala
Rey
Jyn Orso
Ahsoka Tano (Clone Wars theatrical release and TV series. Also Star Wars: Rebels TV show)
Scarlet Witch
Wonder Woman
Hermoine Granger
Eowyn
Arwyn
Galadriel
Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games)
Ripley
Dr. Louise Banks (Arrival)
Dr. Ryan Stone (Gravity)
Melissa Lewis (The Martian)
Dorothy (Wizard of Oz)
Scarlett O'Hara (Gone With the Wind)
Louise Brooks in Pandora's Box
Imperator Furiosa
Pitch Perfect movies
Alice in Wonderland
Princess Bride
Scully from X-Files (tv show)
Not sure “Her” counts...
11:20 I love when Mike makes Jay laugh unexpectedly.
i literally cant believe im so old and this was 7 years ago but i know that it's the single most important reason why youtube eventually removed the dislike or thumbs down public count
Bill Murray was the only hold out over the years for a real 3rd Ghostbusters movie (even Rick Moranis was going to come back). I'm glad Bill was forced into it and is uncomfortable, because this train wreck is all due to him.
This video is so relevant now since the dislike counter is off
Proud Anti-feminist here....and yeah, this movie was trash.
And NO....being Anti-Feminist does NOT mean I'm sexist or hate women, it means I'm Anti-Feminist.
proud anti-feminist with an Anime Avatar. You sure fit the stereotype to a T
I dont understand what grounds they could have to use legal action against Bill Murray. How can they force someone to be in a movie if they dont want to?
I'm a misogynist and for that reason I didn't enjoy the new Ghostbusters movie. If it was an all male cast with the same jokes being done, I think it would be my favorite movie of the year.
The problem I have with this movie is the same problem I have with the new Rocketeer movie, the new wolverine, the new Thor, etc. Instead of creating original properties that headline women, they just take the familiar and add [INSERT CURRENT TREND HERE] to "modernize" it. Birds of Prey would be perfect for the silver screen but seeing as Warner Bros/DC made a turd of a TV show, I'll probably never get to see it.
Wait... What? It's not suprising that X-23 would take over if Logan was killed, And she in no way just appeared, she's been around for like 13 years now.
Well that's Hollywood for you. "What about an original IP about a female protagonist?" "Nah, that's never going to sell. Just take some old franchise and replace the men with women."
She has been around for 13 years...as X-23. But that name doesn't sell comics. Wolverine does. But since Disney Marvel don't own the movie rights to Logan, or Fantastic Four, X-men, or mutants, they would rather kill off or phase out characters than just give free advertising to Fox films.
Vincent Pellegrini Yeah, but it's been hinted at for yeeaaars that she might take over if something were to happen.
+Courtney Johnson Have you ever seen Alien? Terminator? You know, cultural icons that both starred strong female characters and came out around 30 years ago?
This is the closest RLM has ever gotten to actually being political.
Do you, ah.... see much RLM content?
I just realized after 4 years that the graphic is wrong. It should read < 1%. 9:08
A BILLION DOLLAR IDEA
It turned out to be a -70 million dollar idea
+AaronTheZombie noice
Thank you Red Letter Media I like your videos very much
2:20 When Murray answered by he participated Ernie Hudson looked like "that's a croak of shit"
Kajetan Gams Murray looked like he had PTSD haha
Bill Murray is crying out please help me! I've been drag here by gun point!
8:00 it’s gonna be a rough next decade for you, Rich
Just Mike saying "Hello, it's me Scientist Man" had me laughing harder than ANYTHING in the actual film!
Honestly thank you for ending the video with Melissa McCarthy being sensible. One of many shitty things the narrative surrounding the reception of Ghostbusters 2016 caused is that it makes everyone associated with the movie out to be the same kind of radical man-hater bloggers on the internet portray themselves to be. The fact that Paul Feig totally bought into it and ran with it didn't help at all - ironically he made his "brilliant" actors look bad themselves by latching onto a misguided and incorrect narrative. Maybe the smirks on their faces were because they knew there was no movie here and that Paul Feig is a hack director. What has he even done since?
If you took that as her being "sensible", there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with you.
@@zombifiedpariah7392 can u please dissect with your infinite wisdom, what about her quote at the end is not sensible? i don't want to pollute your mind with my opinions but it seems like it's in direct agreement with the thesis of the video as a whole. do you disagree with the video as a whole?
@@Sora_Halomon Have you ever heard of "gaslighting"? Have you ever heard of "hypocrisy"? It doesn't take *iNFiNitE wIsdOM* to see what's wrong with that "quote", you chimp.
Bandit Inc had a great video investigating Sony.
So does Midnight's Edge
I will check it out thanks.
The small smile from Mike and 1:02 is so precious
We need more Scientist Man. I mean honestly, we need more RLM in general, but dear lord do we need more Scientist Man and his rational, logical breakdowns of bullshit with the comedy stylings of his man children subjects.
2:12 You can see Bill Murray's soul leave his body when he said "These girls are funny."
Just a heads up, this video is specificly being targetted by the mods on /r/movies
What, so you can't post it there?
Nope. They remove it instantly
Just about any sub Reddit allowed on /all is moderated by cockwallets.
R A
Based on some rule or are they keeping quiet about the reason? How did the actual review go?
Wow, that's awful. Most default sub moderators are absolute garbage so I guess that isn't too surprising. Remember what the /r/news mods did during the Orlando shooting? Yeah.
8:58 "How often do we see females in film and we don't...."
Terminator - Sarah Connor
Alien - Ellen Ripley
True Grit - Mattie Ross
Agora - Hypatia
Million Dollar Baby - Maggie Fitzgerald
The Brooke Ellison Story - Brooke Ellison
Kill Bill - The Bride
Hunger Games - Katniss Everdeen
Silence of the Lambs - Clarice Starling
Fargo - Marge Gunderson
Supergirl - fucking Supergirl
Spice World - The Spice girls
CHECK YOUR FACTSSSS!
Thanks for this Red Letter Media. When you guys criticize something you tear it apart like a Rottweiler on a newborn kitten.
By the gods.
Like a pitbull with a toddler.
Rich said he hates cats so I'm positive this is a dummy account of his
No, and I am just seeing now this post got up voted! I have videos on my channel now if you want to see me in all my glory.
@@TheDrapetomanic _That's exactly what Rich would say_
Ghostbusters 1984 > Ghostbusters 2016
I think that goes without commenting for likes.
water is wet
wow wonder how you got to that conclucion
Thank you, Captain Obvious. You have saved the day once again.
Controversial.
Love, love, love scientist mans take on 2016 Ghostbusters. Having a female version of one of my favourite films, does not make me feel empowered :(
Just make us a good film with female leads instead!
awww. I like GB2. It's not as bad as everyone is pointing out...especially compared to the 2016 monster.
It has a pretty wonderful prologue, I'll give it that. Everything prior to the Ghostbusters getting back together is hilarious. Then the movie's plot starts and it just dies
I watched it recently for the first time in years and years. I really enjoyed it. Didn't understand why it gets slagged off so much. Sure, it was never going to top the original, but it is decent.
I liked ghostbusters 2 but GB1 was just better more entertaining to
love gb2
I enjoyed it too, honestly. Viggo is a riot.