I'm glad ghostbusters 2016 failed. Not because it ruined my childhood or because i'm misogynistic. Not even because it's a bad movie. But because of this dirty marketing campaign.
Dan Aykroyd is insane, always has been, and he has a financial stake in the new movie. Anything he says regarding it is going to be suspect but at least in that case I think he was mostly trying to defend a co-worker he respects in a situation that he doesn't fully understand. Don't take it out on his vodka sales...it's good fucking vodka.
You're not expecting a feminist to paint an acurate depiction of reality while she's in the process of fabricating a narrative of opression, are you? Oh my sweet summer child.
Dunno if +Harry Balzak will see this, but your post seemed to have been flagged as spam. Weren't me, guv. If that was because it contained the word m a n s p l a i n i n g though, that would be very strange indeed.
Harry Balzak I tried to restore your comment, but I guess as it wasn't me who flagged it in the first place I can't make it show again. Although your other reply has also been tagged as spam. You seem to be in some kind of TH-cam purgatory.
Yep... it had a chance, but with the combined powers of a terrible director, horrific marketing and a lot of lies and contempt for the audience, it became the disaster it is.
At pretty much all levels on the making of this film they failed. Insulting fans. Not having the same comedy style as the old movies. Not having believable characters. Shitty Scoobydoo-level CGI. Bad director or at least not fitting for this movie. The new version of the theme song doesn't represent the current generation nor does it represent the original. I could go on all day...
Great video, but I wouldn't say comments that "brought up the feminism angle" qualify as anti-women. It's pretty clear based on how they spun the story, censored the comments, and slandered their critics that they were using feminism as a shield to protect the film from thoughtful criticism. Critiquing feminism isn't inherently anti-woman.
I think it sucks people who were criticizing the film got called sexist even though it wasn't even the women that were the problem I mean some of the most iconic films had badass women
This point bothered me as well. I distinctly remember looking at the comments and seeing plenty of people saying something like "Stop removing my comments, my opinion has nothing to do with feminist issues". Regardless of whether or not that was the reason comments were removed, the commenters seemed to think this was the case, and such a comment certainly qualifies as "bringing up the feminist angle" without actually taking any kind of stand for or against.
robocop, kill la kill, ghost in the shell, inuyasha, terminator, lord of the rings. All these things had some sort of female main character who play a big role to the story. Which heck, these are just the first ones to come to mind. Can't recall anyone hating on these things just due to there being women in them, that play some sort of important part to the story. If there were, they were a very very small group. For many seem to like them a fair bit going by ratings and review. Seems tv and movies have been fairy fine with showing women in not only in their shows but as major characters for a while now. So i'm not sure how this new ghostbuster movie was meant to be a big break through for women, when it has been done before, having main female characters.
I don't think that's the point they're making; instead I think what they're saying is that people associate anti-feminism with anti-women, and they're labeling the comments as anti-women because they're against the feminist slant in the film.
crazybuizel Which even with going by that line of logic and grouping them all in the anti women bit. It still only made up a small % of the comments. So the largest possible numbers and it still made up a minor number of comments. Which i think might just hurt the point people hate women more. For even with taking the large possible number, it's still a very very minor group of people.
@@heezythecasual Sadly we seem to be in an era where you can have an opinion, but only if it's positive, unless you are supporting white men, or is against any non Caucasian human. Personally I'd fight for someone to have the rights to say their opinion even if I fully disagree with it, but that probably flag me as a rather horrible person. Kind of miss the 90s, and earlier, things were less shitty.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was just taking the piss, and I fully agree with you, crazy how the world is rn, I have even tried to defend some situations for women and have someone go “what do u know, ur a white man” 🤦🏻♂️
If only Sony would let everyone talk and not call everyone a misogynist, this would've been just another forgettable remake like Total Recall and Robocop. But that is just my ppinion.
+Maintenance Renegade thankfully a lot of people on gamergate and 8chan archived their shrieks just in case they try to make another movie a "political movement"
Absolutely. However, making a his stink about sexism and racism and whateverthehell, was the only way Sony figured they could convert any publicity-to-profits from this total trash.
Sony strong-armed Bill Murray with threats of litigation if he did not appear in the 2016 movie. He really doesn't want to be there. That's also why he didn't do anything in the movie beyond the bare minimum of showing up.
You drop a bad trailer. You insult genre fans in your press circuit before the film. You straight up attack James Rolfe (AVGN) for saying the movie doesn't look good, that he is against reboots of classic films, and will therefore skip it. It gets middling reviews and poor word of mouth. Yet, despite Sony Markeeting being idiots, this movie would have made them money if it just had a sane budget. Sony over spent making the movie and marketing it, that is the primary reason it failed. Not men's rights activists, not angry anti- reboot genre geeks.
@@zombified_pariah7720 Considering they've made flops like this for decades and still haven't gone out of business means it'll never happen in your lifetime.
Not to mention the original had a budget of $30 million and the remake had a budget of $144 million. Clearly that amount of money wasn't spent accordingly.
Ironically, I think most people who don't like Leslie Jones don't like her because her entire shtick is the racist and overdone stereotype of a loud black woman.
+chopperbubba what sjws? It was Sony, who are motivated by greed. they successfully created this fake Scandal or series of fake scandals to sell movie tickets, and it worked. It isn't going to work for long, of course, because as Mike said, Word of Mouth. But they got a lot more positive press about a movie that otherwise simply would have gotten press about how disappointing it was. some people want to turn everything into an sjw issue. When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina.
+trekyz pretty much this gg sjws you try to inject your identity politics on everything and now people are fighting back fuck you universities and tumblr for breeding these idiots
+John Clavis Then again it could be argued it's the sjw crowd that makes it possible for greedy companies like Sony to get away with shit like this. If there weren't people ready to rabidly jump on every little controversy that pops up, Sony would've just looked like an complete idiot.
Yet this same SJW crowd Sony was pushing for DIDN'T support the film at all. The box office numbers show this as it only made 158 million worldwide as of yesterday (and it needs to make 500 million to make it's money back and profit). So these same idiots who were bashing men calling them man babies, ignoring valid criticism from James Rolfe (AVGN) then calling him a man baby, ect... NONE OF THEM SUPPORTED THE MOVIE WHEN IT WAS RELEASED. It's the same thing over and over again with that crowd. There have been games like Mirror's Edge 2 and small indie games that catered to them and their ideals and did they support the games.... NO they didn't support anything. These guys don't support anything and yet they are the ones who cried the loudest. Why do people still cater to them is beyond me.
***** I totally agree that it wasn't as good as the first one. But it's not a complete throw away either. It was in keeping with the time it came out in, it was funny, it kept the continuity of Ghostbusters going. And it did okay at the box office. This new movie; at soon as it attempts to become a Ghostbusters movie it,falls apart.
I watched the second one a lot as a kid as I had it recorded on video tape for some reason. I was surprised to learn how much hate GB II got. I went back and watched it a few weeks ago, I still enjoyed it.
Yeah, I'm surprised too. I watched it a bunch of times as a kid and I put it in the Wayne's World 2 category of "not as good as the original, but still pretty good".
I'm disappointed to see you guys jump on the bandwagon with this irrational, blind dislike of a movie that's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. I like Ghostbusters 2!
Ah, fair enough! I know a lot of people dislike 2, and I can see where they're coming from to an extent. But I still enjoy it, and the underground sequence alone justifies it's existence to me.
I love it when you guys make videos like this. The analytical videos like this, the Plinkett reviews, the Jack and Jill Half in the bag and others are what keeps me coming back to Red Letter Media. It's so great to see people making smart cultural critiques in a unique, entertaining way!
The single best video talking about this crappy movie and pointing out all of Sonys bull to make anyone who dislikes it seem like they are part of that small percentage of assholes.
I disagree on this. Most of the information they used was already covered by Midnight's Edge months ago, who also extensively listed their sources. You can expect that level of detail from a German TH-camr. I think you would enjoy the Midnight's Edge channel. Their coverage on the Fantastic Four controversy was also very good.
Interesting thing about the statistical breakdown in this video. Is that the proportion of women haters, is actually lesser than the proportion of genuinely psychopaths we'd expect to see in a group. It is estimated that around 1% of the population are psychopaths (that doesn't mean they're serial killers). It just means they have the neurological condition psychopathy. Which means they have a very limited, if non-existent, ability to empathise.
***** There was indeed. www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36380247 50% were sent by women, 10% the gender couldn't be ascertained and 40% were sent by men. (estimate). From this article: "A 2014 study from cosmetics firm Dove found that over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five were sent by women."
+The Pickles Space Cop a.k.a Holden M'Dickie - Melissa McCarthy Detective Ted Cooper - Jane Lynch Agnon Ahn - Leslie Jones (is that racist?) Grigg McCool - Tina Fey Officer Zorba - Kevin James Directed by Uwe Boll Screenplay by M Night Shmalbadams
Everything RLM has reviewed has been funnier than the movie itself. Like they said they rarely review comedies, except when its a movie with women who should be working at Etsy.
THIS is what I love the most from RLM. Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst are fun as hell and all that, but when they teach you things while still being funny (Like the Plinkett Reviews, and how much they showed about behind the scenes with the prequels) they become something else.
excuse me mike strider, as of the second of august 2016 jay is a man (please comment when he starts transitioning so i can edit this comment with an apology thanks)
“It is very good. The people are just made because they are sexist and really liked the older one. In my opinion I saw them both and I like this one better. Thanks Sony!” That comment looks like it was typed by a child, do you really think they or most people would pay attention to the studio that puts a movie out? That was utter bullshit probably typed by some Sony intern pretending to spell stuff wrong. What a horrible company.
This was just a sad time for this film. People were cruel, mean, and immature towards one another, because a company didn't want to admit their movie wasn't as good as it could of been.
Calling people names because they don't like your film is definitely going to get people to go see your movie. Yes, act like a little child and throw a temper tantrum, and people will cave in and go see a movie that'll ruin the Ghostbusters as a whole.
At the moment I feel like Frodo waking up in Rivendell, drawing a sigh of relief that it's finally over. The entire release of this film has been a nightmare.
Right? It makes me embarrassed for everyone who tried to champion this thing. It looked just like an Adam Sandler film. I've had people try to argue those were funny, too, but they didn't act like it was a cause. Sometimes the world makes me sad.
Frodo woke up in Minas Tirith at the end of the movie, not Rivendell. Why don't you take your shirt and tie and go pretend to be an nerd somewhere else, you hack fraud.
Bill Murray was the only hold out over the years for a real 3rd Ghostbusters movie (even Rick Moranis was going to come back). I'm glad Bill was forced into it and is uncomfortable, because this train wreck is all due to him.
+The Pickles so mighty no 9 shat on fans and failed and is did this movie will big coperations learn to stop pandering to feminist or will they blame gamergate mra and 4chan when something fails because they are the children and not the "man babies" they claim
+Alexandre Martins BvS is by no means a "good" movie in the objective sense. Even looking at the basics, you really only understand the motivations of 1 of the 3 main characters in the movie, and Lex's plan (i.e. what is supposed to be the narrative thrust and main conflict) is "Rube Goldbergian" in nature, to quote Rich Evans, and has so many elements that can and should have gone wrong, it's amazing that, in the few years it took for the movie to come out, nobody bothered to say, "Hey, shouldn't we change this so that it makes more sense than none at all?"
He is actualy insane. Check out some other interviews with him. Guy is a complete conspiracy nutjob. He also believes in ghosts...i remember he said he had sex with a ghost. Crazy dude
Well, of course You say something negative about women or minorities, you're immediately given a membership to your local Klan branch That's how it works, right?
I dont understand what grounds they could have to use legal action against Bill Murray. How can they force someone to be in a movie if they dont want to?
We need more Scientist Man. I mean honestly, we need more RLM in general, but dear lord do we need more Scientist Man and his rational, logical breakdowns of bullshit with the comedy stylings of his man children subjects.
It has a pretty wonderful prologue, I'll give it that. Everything prior to the Ghostbusters getting back together is hilarious. Then the movie's plot starts and it just dies
I watched it recently for the first time in years and years. I really enjoyed it. Didn't understand why it gets slagged off so much. Sure, it was never going to top the original, but it is decent.
The problem I have with this movie is the same problem I have with the new Rocketeer movie, the new wolverine, the new Thor, etc. Instead of creating original properties that headline women, they just take the familiar and add [INSERT CURRENT TREND HERE] to "modernize" it. Birds of Prey would be perfect for the silver screen but seeing as Warner Bros/DC made a turd of a TV show, I'll probably never get to see it.
Wait... What? It's not suprising that X-23 would take over if Logan was killed, And she in no way just appeared, she's been around for like 13 years now.
Well that's Hollywood for you. "What about an original IP about a female protagonist?" "Nah, that's never going to sell. Just take some old franchise and replace the men with women."
She has been around for 13 years...as X-23. But that name doesn't sell comics. Wolverine does. But since Disney Marvel don't own the movie rights to Logan, or Fantastic Four, X-men, or mutants, they would rather kill off or phase out characters than just give free advertising to Fox films.
+Courtney Johnson Have you ever seen Alien? Terminator? You know, cultural icons that both starred strong female characters and came out around 30 years ago?
I'm a misogynist and for that reason I didn't enjoy the new Ghostbusters movie. If it was an all male cast with the same jokes being done, I think it would be my favorite movie of the year.
Mary Poppins The Bride (Kill Bill) Coralline Jones (Coralline) Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird) Black Widow (Most of the MCU) Most of the cast of Eulogy Much of the cast of Love/Actually. Oh, hello there. I was just posting a bunch of characters that proved all of the statements about how there are no women in movies wrong. Feel free to add more!
Princess Leia Padme Amidala Rey Jyn Orso Ahsoka Tano (Clone Wars theatrical release and TV series. Also Star Wars: Rebels TV show) Scarlet Witch Wonder Woman Hermoine Granger Eowyn Arwyn Galadriel Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games) Ripley Dr. Louise Banks (Arrival) Dr. Ryan Stone (Gravity) Melissa Lewis (The Martian) Dorothy (Wizard of Oz) Scarlett O'Hara (Gone With the Wind)
Proud Anti-feminist here....and yeah, this movie was trash. And NO....being Anti-Feminist does NOT mean I'm sexist or hate women, it means I'm Anti-Feminist.
It is painful to see Melissa McCarthy and Paul Feig being sensible at the end of the video saying what they SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE SAID during the whole damn thing. If only they did that from the beginning...
Remember when they tried to cancel Angry Video Game Nerd for just saying he wasnt going to review it? His subs jumped by like 100,000 in a week after that nonsense. Good job, media!
No that's literally just the definition. You can't tell me that a metal box with 4 wheels and an engine isn't a car just because you say that's the "bullshit definition". You can be critical of specific things that specific people say, but at least from a literal standpoint, you can't be anti feminism and not anti woman at the same time.
If you have a problem with the movie, then criticize the movie. A very significant amount of the discussion surrounding this movie has nothing to do with the movie itself, and is in fact motivated by sexism. This, not criticisms of the movie itself, is what motivates people to say things like "wow people are being really sexist asshats about the new ghostbusters movie".
i literally cant believe im so old and this was 7 years ago but i know that it's the single most important reason why youtube eventually removed the dislike or thumbs down public count
I'm glad ghostbusters 2016 failed. Not because it ruined my childhood or because i'm misogynistic. Not even because it's a bad movie. But because of this dirty marketing campaign.
v01d666 that's why Hillary lost cause she tried to employ the same strategy
iamhughmun When she didn't have to, Trump was awful enough alone
your tinfoil hats a bit crooked.
As a woman, I agree. I can’t believe people fell for it...
@@ImmaLittlePip his name was "____ _____"
Bill Murray looks like he literally has a gun stuck up against his back and is reading a prepared statement.
He was. They were going to shoot him with a law suit if he didn't comply
You can tell because it must be one of the rare moments ever being Bill Murray that he isn't funny.
Yup. That's some Soviet-era shit right there.
Fuck Murray this is all his fault for not doing a 3rd ghostbusters 🤬🤬🤬🤬🥵🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🥵🥵🥵🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤮🤕🤒😴😯🤬🤬🤯😵
Yeah but Bill Murray looks like that a lot LOL
take me away from this world skull vodka
*Cough* "Very nice..."
Crystal Head Vodka??
But i hear it's a smooth vodka..
But he was forced to say it though, so
Dan Aykroyd is insane, always has been, and he has a financial stake in the new movie. Anything he says regarding it is going to be suspect but at least in that case I think he was mostly trying to defend a co-worker he respects in a situation that he doesn't fully understand. Don't take it out on his vodka sales...it's good fucking vodka.
I got an early screening of The Force Awakens as well!
When I saw Star Wars: A New Hope...
The new SW films films that caused me to lose all hope...
Rick Lucey there is always a new hope
I saw it when it was just Star Wars... period. Those were the days. I also loved watching the Fonz back then.
In 1977!! NOW THAT'S EARLY!
(Slide-whistle)
"How often do you see women in films? Never."
Wut.
Kill Bill, Aliens, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Avengers, Room, Brooklyn, The Hunger Games, Star Wars.....
STOP OPPRESSING HER WITH YOUR FACTS!!!
You're not expecting a feminist to paint an acurate depiction of reality while she's in the process of fabricating a narrative of opression, are you? Oh my sweet summer child.
Dunno if +Harry Balzak will see this, but your post seemed to have been flagged as spam. Weren't me, guv.
If that was because it contained the word m a n s p l a i n i n g though, that would be very strange indeed.
Harry Balzak I tried to restore your comment, but I guess as it wasn't me who flagged it in the first place I can't make it show again. Although your other reply has also been tagged as spam. You seem to be in some kind of TH-cam purgatory.
Thank fuck Scientist Man was in this video instead of that hack fraud Mike.
That's like, just your ppinion, man.
Fuck you.
Yeah he would propably love this movie, like this other movie he liked
Show some respect to the dead you fuck!
Yeah, that Jewy schlub is so annoying! He's not fair, balanced, and eloquent, like Scientist-Man.
Paul Feig is so dense. Every sentence he says has so few things going on.
Paul Feig: "I may have gone too far in a few places.."
Melissa is the key to all of this.
Levan Chkhenkeli
"I want that juicy McCarthy meat..."
Levan Chkhenkeli If we can get her eating.
isnt that what George Lucas said?
"I fail to see the humour" everyone who went to see Ghostbusters
I'm worried about my health as I age. Please take care of me!
@TheKirk15 A comedy that isn't funny is just painful to sit through. GB2016 was painful.
15 years? That's longer than it took to make Boyhood!
And Boyhood took 12 years to make!
it took 12 years to make thats longer than it took to make the GREAT WALL OF CHINA FUCK YOU IT TOOK 12 YEARS TO MAKE
That's right, Zeke Payne! Did you know Boyhood took 12 years to make?
12 years?!? That's how long it took to make Boyhood! Did you know it took them 12 years to make it?
12 years to make boyhood? Boyhood is so great! I didn't know it took 12 years!
Wow! 12 years is a really long time!
I wanted so badly for that movie to be good. But it was just... Fucking awful.
Oh. Hi Tom
Yep... it had a chance, but with the combined powers of a terrible director, horrific marketing and a lot of lies and contempt for the audience, it became the disaster it is.
At pretty much all levels on the making of this film they failed. Insulting fans. Not having the same comedy style as the old movies. Not having believable characters. Shitty Scoobydoo-level CGI. Bad director or at least not fitting for this movie. The new version of the theme song doesn't represent the current generation nor does it represent the original. I could go on all day...
Blame SJWs
FeelsBadMan with the gun
Great video, but I wouldn't say comments that "brought up the feminism angle" qualify as anti-women. It's pretty clear based on how they spun the story, censored the comments, and slandered their critics that they were using feminism as a shield to protect the film from thoughtful criticism. Critiquing feminism isn't inherently anti-woman.
I think it sucks people who were criticizing the film got called sexist even though it wasn't even the women that were the problem I mean some of the most iconic films had badass women
This point bothered me as well. I distinctly remember looking at the comments and seeing plenty of people saying something like "Stop removing my comments, my opinion has nothing to do with feminist issues". Regardless of whether or not that was the reason comments were removed, the commenters seemed to think this was the case, and such a comment certainly qualifies as "bringing up the feminist angle" without actually taking any kind of stand for or against.
robocop, kill la kill, ghost in the shell, inuyasha, terminator, lord of the rings. All these things had some sort of female main character who play a big role to the story. Which heck, these are just the first ones to come to mind. Can't recall anyone hating on these things just due to there being women in them, that play some sort of important part to the story. If there were, they were a very very small group. For many seem to like them a fair bit going by ratings and review.
Seems tv and movies have been fairy fine with showing women in not only in their shows but as major characters for a while now. So i'm not sure how this new ghostbuster movie was meant to be a big break through for women, when it has been done before, having main female characters.
I don't think that's the point they're making; instead I think what they're saying is that people associate anti-feminism with anti-women, and they're labeling the comments as anti-women because they're against the feminist slant in the film.
crazybuizel Which even with going by that line of logic and grouping them all in the anti women bit. It still only made up a small % of the comments. So the largest possible numbers and it still made up a minor number of comments.
Which i think might just hurt the point people hate women more. For even with taking the large possible number, it's still a very very minor group of people.
Everyone is entitled to their own ppinion.
even if the opinion is wrong
Oh shit I just noticed who you are lol! Fuckin LOVE your channel man!
@@heezythecasual Sadly we seem to be in an era where you can have an opinion, but only if it's positive, unless you are supporting white men, or is against any non Caucasian human.
Personally I'd fight for someone to have the rights to say their opinion even if I fully disagree with it, but that probably flag me as a rather horrible person. Kind of miss the 90s, and earlier, things were less shitty.
@@Mangaka-ml6xo I was just taking the piss, and I fully agree with you, crazy how the world is rn, I have even tried to defend some situations for women and have someone go “what do u know, ur a white man” 🤦🏻♂️
Hey, stop judging dyslexic bots, ManChild.
If only Sony would let everyone talk and not call everyone a misogynist, this would've been just another forgettable remake like Total Recall and Robocop. But that is just my ppinion.
I completely forgot about the total recall reboot till I watched a trailer of it in I think a x men DVD
+Maintenance Renegade
thankfully a lot of people on gamergate and 8chan archived their shrieks just in case they try to make another movie a "political movement"
Absolutely.
However, making a his stink about sexism and racism and whateverthehell, was the only way Sony figured they could convert any publicity-to-profits from this total trash.
And we can talk about the important issues, like why Jay is in a shirt five sizes too big for him.
Maintenance Renegade trajectory, lol.
Ghostbusters (2016) was a fartbag.
*Queefbag
they made it very clear with the first gag. The movie is a queefbag
More like queefbag.
If this movie were an album it would be the perfect "regretting the past" subject ;)
hashtag fartbag :O
WOW! Just look how awkward things became when Bill said "its only because I knew these girls were funny."....... slow clapping. 2:05
Yeah, it felt like at that point everyone (including the audience) had a gun to their head.
"Clap...FUCKING CLAP!!"
I feel so sorry for him
Sony strong-armed Bill Murray with threats of litigation if he did not appear in the 2016 movie. He really doesn't want to be there. That's also why he didn't do anything in the movie beyond the bare minimum of showing up.
Please clap
Just checked out the original interview and sadly, people actually cheer. The clip was just edited this way as a joke for this video.
You drop a bad trailer. You insult genre fans in your press circuit before the film. You straight up attack James Rolfe (AVGN) for saying the movie doesn't look good, that he is against reboots of classic films, and will therefore skip it. It gets middling reviews and poor word of mouth. Yet, despite Sony Markeeting being idiots, this movie would have made them money if it just had a sane budget. Sony over spent making the movie and marketing it, that is the primary reason it failed. Not men's rights activists, not angry anti- reboot genre geeks.
Sony are slowly eating themselves to bankruptcy with their greed. Only a matter of time ;)
@@zombified_pariah7720 Considering they've made flops like this for decades and still haven't gone out of business means it'll never happen in your lifetime.
@@dyveira Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it never will.
Not to mention the original had a budget of $30 million and the remake had a budget of $144 million. Clearly that amount of money wasn't spent accordingly.
I'm fucking dying! Did Dan Akroyd really mentioned the KKK and Aryan Nation on TV?!
That is okay it was on ET Canada. Nobody except Rick the Temp's mom watches that.
Ironically, I think most people who don't like Leslie Jones don't like her because her entire shtick is the racist and overdone stereotype of a loud black woman.
....There's an ET Canada.
.......
WELL, I learned something new.
Yup, and it's cancer just like ET.
www.etonline.com/news/193623_dan_aykroyd_slams_leslie_jones_racist_twitter_haters/
"ppinon" is my new favorite word
its hard to top "tshi"
Ohhhhhhhh, snap! That's right.
In terms of Ghostbusters 2016, I was disappointed in the cooking of the duck meat.
DONT YOU MEAN THE CUCKING OF COCK MEAT?
oops sorry had caps on
like that's just your ppinon man
Thanks for this guys, you perfectly summed up every bit of controversy surrounding this movie in 13 minutes and made it funnier than the movie.
+chopperbubba what sjws? It was Sony, who are motivated by greed. they successfully created this fake Scandal or series of fake scandals to sell movie tickets, and it worked. It isn't going to work for long, of course, because as Mike said, Word of Mouth. But they got a lot more positive press about a movie that otherwise simply would have gotten press about how disappointing it was. some people want to turn everything into an sjw issue. When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina.
"when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a vagina." hahaha that is one of the best lines ever
+trekyz
pretty much this
gg sjws you try to inject your identity politics on everything and now people are fighting back
fuck you universities and tumblr for breeding these idiots
+John Clavis Then again it could be argued it's the sjw crowd that makes it possible for greedy companies like Sony to get away with shit like this. If there weren't people ready to rabidly jump on every little controversy that pops up, Sony would've just looked like an complete idiot.
Yet this same SJW crowd Sony was pushing for DIDN'T support the film at all. The box office numbers show this as it only made 158 million worldwide as of yesterday (and it needs to make 500 million to make it's money back and profit). So these same idiots who were bashing men calling them man babies, ignoring valid criticism from James Rolfe (AVGN) then calling him a man baby, ect... NONE OF THEM SUPPORTED THE MOVIE WHEN IT WAS RELEASED.
It's the same thing over and over again with that crowd. There have been games like Mirror's Edge 2 and small indie games that catered to them and their ideals and did they support the games.... NO they didn't support anything.
These guys don't support anything and yet they are the ones who cried the loudest. Why do people still cater to them is beyond me.
12:17 Scientist Man: _"Hey! Hey! No jokes allowed!"_
Jay: _"Is that what they told Paul Feig?"_
lol
*Yes*
Bubububuttt the whole movie was a joke
@@jerff5411 A very unfunny and depressing one at that.
Why are you guys better investigative reporters than the entirety of Gawker media?
gawker is dead. beware the huffington post.
Because Gawker pieces read like the scribblings of a 2nd year Poly-Sci major who just ate a pan of weed brownies.
rofl
"that's just their way of marginalizing a normal person." - Norm MacDonald
More of a comment really.
...or so the Germans would have us believe...
Love seeing other norm fans, but what about Stalin?!
“Thanks Sony!” : a quote of a totally real person with a TH-cam account
Who thanks the production company for a movie? "Thanks, Miramax!"
@@MarkBentley "Thanks, Weinstein Company!'
This be funnier than the actual movie
To be fair, the movie set that bar pretty low
everyone is entitled to their own ppinion
unless they are a straight white cis male. then they should just shut up and do what other people say. they had their turn!!!!
TheGM it's a quote from the video m8. Did you watch it even?
+Cubulous What he said is a joke as well.
Jacob Hill ah... me is dumb. Thanks!
Its fine. Jokes can sometimes be hard to gauge on the internet.
I never quite got what any of the controversy has to do with exercise and eating habits.. I mean, surely you can be slim and a jerk too :P
PhantomStrider Hi strider!!!
Oh shiit its you
Makes me pretty happy to see you watch RLM
PhantomStrider HEYY I SUB TO U
It's too make them seem more unattractive. Which is funny because the same people who are saying this will freak out about people fat shaming.
Ghostbusters II was not a bad movie, and it was a shit load better then GB 2016.
*****
I totally agree that it wasn't as good as the first one. But it's not a complete throw away either. It was in keeping with the time it came out in, it was funny, it kept the continuity of Ghostbusters going. And it did okay at the box office. This new movie; at soon as it attempts to become a Ghostbusters movie it,falls apart.
I watched the second one a lot as a kid as I had it recorded on video tape for some reason. I was surprised to learn how much hate GB II got. I went back and watched it a few weeks ago, I still enjoyed it.
I hope you didn't pay to see the new Ghostbusters
No I didn't, but I will never get that hour and forty minutes of my life back.
Yeah, I'm surprised too. I watched it a bunch of times as a kid and I put it in the Wayne's World 2 category of "not as good as the original, but still pretty good".
Omfg Jay's laugh when Mike says "I'm not surprised he's eating it, it is very phallic." Brings joy to me every time!! 11:24-11:50
Rich's defeated expression is pretty precious as well
"I hate you" laid over rich slow mo eating it just makes me laugh every time
I'm disappointed to see you guys jump on the bandwagon with this irrational, blind dislike of a movie that's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be.
I like Ghostbusters 2!
Irrational, blind dislike? I think they covered why they didn't like it pretty well in their Half in the Bag review.
NextGenPants They did a Half in the Bag on Ghostbusters 2?
Holy shit, I don't know if I wanna watch that or not.
+Jake Kale oh hell I misread that comment. I think they touch on ghost busters 2 on the Re-View episode
Ah, fair enough! I know a lot of people dislike 2, and I can see where they're coming from to an extent. But I still enjoy it, and the underground sequence alone justifies it's existence to me.
They did do a commentary track of Ghostbusters 2, you can find it on their website.
I love Mike's almost laugh at 1:02
it illuminates my life, my soul
I love how obvious it is that Jay borrowed one of Rich's t-shirts for this video.
He's drowning in it
ghost busters 2016 is the worst thing since my son
You promised you wouldn't say things like that any more, Dad. 3 years of therapy down the drain.
I love it when you guys make videos like this. The analytical videos like this, the Plinkett reviews, the Jack and Jill Half in the bag and others are what keeps me coming back to Red Letter Media. It's so great to see people making smart cultural critiques in a unique, entertaining way!
Ok.
*We're all eagerly awaiting the new Star Wars: The Force Awakens Mr. Plinkett review.*
why would they rip something to pieces that was good?
+danuisortiz And yet it was still better than the shitty prequels......
(got it right that time lol)
Why would he make a review about it? It was a good movie.
Plinkett only makes reviews of shitty movies
Because 5 mins of Rich masturbating into a Droid(wants to remain anonymous, (pending legal action))
would be the same bit :)
No he did one of Titanic, which Mike liked, sort of.
Even 5 years later, I thoroughly enjoy the RLM Ghostbusters videos. They're some of their best.
"The first question to ask is how often do we see females in film. And, we don't."
Sorry what?
@@onkelpappkov2666 lols!
@@onkelpappkov2666 GOLD!
She said females aren't seen in films. From this, we can conclude that all women are ninjas.
she probably meant protagonist, but stil her comment is hilarious
@@TheYutubesteve Apparently no one told her about The Force Awakens. Or any of the Alien films.
The single best video talking about this crappy movie and pointing out all of Sonys bull to make anyone who dislikes it seem like they are part of that small percentage of assholes.
I disagree on this. Most of the information they used was already covered by Midnight's Edge months ago, who also extensively listed their sources. You can expect that level of detail from a German TH-camr.
I think you would enjoy the Midnight's Edge channel. Their coverage on the Fantastic Four controversy was also very good.
Midnight's Edge was very informative, but dry. Redletter was less informative, but extremely entertaining (ymmv).
Interesting thing about the statistical breakdown in this video. Is that the proportion of women haters, is actually lesser than the proportion of genuinely psychopaths we'd expect to see in a group.
It is estimated that around 1% of the population are psychopaths (that doesn't mean they're serial killers). It just means they have the neurological condition psychopathy. Which means they have a very limited, if non-existent, ability to empathise.
*****
There was indeed.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36380247
50% were sent by women, 10% the gender couldn't be ascertained and 40% were sent by men. (estimate).
From this article:
"A 2014 study from cosmetics firm Dove found that over five million negative tweets were posted about beauty and body image. Four out of five were sent by women."
And it seems a lot of them made it to the comment section here, too.
I want Paul Feig to direct the Space Cop reboot.
All female cast.
+The Pickles Ha! women can't be cops!
oh shit I hope I don't get attacked by feminists IT WAS A JOKE
+The Pickles
Space Cop a.k.a Holden M'Dickie - Melissa McCarthy
Detective Ted Cooper - Jane Lynch
Agnon Ahn - Leslie Jones (is that racist?)
Grigg McCool - Tina Fey
Officer Zorba - Kevin James
Directed by Uwe Boll
Screenplay by M Night Shmalbadams
Hey at least it will be just as funny as the original
+Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen
Lora Story is pretty fucking hilarious, she'd rip the ass out of the role of Space Cop.
JAY CONFIRMED FOR HATING WOMEN
12:47 *Leslie Jones slams sexist Ghostbusters haters: 'What will you tell your daughter'?*
"Don't idolise Twitter bullies."
"You can do anything you want, but Leslie Jones hair can impale you."
I love the way Jay just shits himself laughing when Mike deadpans an accusation that Rich likes Twinkies because they’re phallic. Genuine belly laugh.
12:18 "Hey! Hey! No jokes allowed!" "Is that what they told Paul Feig?" Ouch!
Man, this was funnier than the movie itself :)
Everything RLM has reviewed has been funnier than the movie itself. Like they said they rarely review comedies, except when its a movie with women who should be working at Etsy.
To be fair, I've seen holocaust documentaries funnier than the movie. If George Carlin saw this movie growing up, he'd have become a tax accountant.
@@AraclainNow see, if you can't come equipped with better rebuttals, why do you even type? Why are you here?
Just leave. Go. There's the door.
It's sickening how the media spins shit to get clicks.
The back of my head was almost in a red letter media video. Amazing haha
Blended with the twinkies and ecto cooler.
and some pizza pockets on the side
HAHAHAHAHA
you have one testical
7:25 That's not how TSHI is spelled.
They just meant Ishtar.
Skeptical Cat MY BLADDER IS OUT OF CONTROL! OOOOOAAAARGH!!!!
THIS is what I love the most from RLM.
Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst are fun as hell and all that, but when they teach you things while still being funny (Like the Plinkett Reviews, and how much they showed about behind the scenes with the prequels) they become something else.
Props to Mike for keeping a straight face as he dropped the phallic comment
They are doing a reboot of He-Man with a female lead. it is called She-Man. looks pretty funny.
What about her?
Well now it's He-Ra.
His final form is Ra-Man
I was using irony. I know there is a She-Ra, she came on after Heathcliff the cat when I was a kid.
How about that they made a movie called ´No Man´about a guy who is no man at all because he refuses to be a real man?
Honestly I was confused when I found out I'm a misogynist because I thought it didn't look like a good movie. Who'd have thought.
This was funnier than the movie. No surprise, there were no women in it. Badum tisss.
Pffffffffttt
*sides explode and are currently in orbit*
But Jay was there
+Mike Strider
You mean Susan.
excuse me mike strider, as of the second of august 2016 jay is a man
(please comment when he starts transitioning so i can edit this comment with an apology thanks)
Some idiot is gonna take that comment seriously, I bet it'll only take an hour.
“It is very good. The people are just made because they are sexist and really liked the older one. In my opinion I saw them both and I like this one better. Thanks Sony!”
That comment looks like it was typed by a child, do you really think they or most people would pay attention to the studio that puts a movie out? That was utter bullshit probably typed by some Sony intern pretending to spell stuff wrong. What a horrible company.
Bot or non-native English speaker, probably.
Haha! Yeah the "Thanks Sony" cracked me up! Like who in the hell thanks the studio. Obviously was a planted comment.
This might be the most important TH-cam video ever made lol
A BILLION DOLLAR IDEA
It turned out to be a -70 million dollar idea
+AaronTheZombie noice
This was just a sad time for this film. People were cruel, mean, and immature towards one another, because a company didn't want to admit their movie wasn't as good as it could of been.
Calling people names because they don't like your film is definitely going to get people to go see your movie. Yes, act like a little child and throw a temper tantrum, and people will cave in and go see a movie that'll ruin the Ghostbusters as a whole.
Sony Pictures and the sensationalist media are the real villains.
"How often do you see women in films?" is answered by "How often do you see movies?" and "How often do you leave your home other than to go to work?".
When you look at Jay.. You can really tell he's wearing one of Rich's Ghost Buster's shirts
11:30 I couldn't resist laughing after Mike told the joke and Jay laughed infectiously, while Rich threw his wrappers down in defeat.
More of Scientist Man!
"I'm not surprised he ate it. It is very phallic."
I died.
At the moment I feel like Frodo waking up in Rivendell, drawing a sigh of relief that it's finally over. The entire release of this film has been a nightmare.
That is a fantastic way of putting it!
Right? It makes me embarrassed for everyone who tried to champion this thing. It looked just like an Adam Sandler film. I've had people try to argue those were funny, too, but they didn't act like it was a cause. Sometimes the world makes me sad.
Frodo woke up in Minas Tirith at the end of the movie, not Rivendell. Why don't you take your shirt and tie and go pretend to be an nerd somewhere else, you hack fraud.
“It was only ‘cuz I knew these girls were funny.”
- The only funny line of Ghostbusters 2016
Pascal: "That's great."
Feig: "It's gonna be great."
Pascal: "That's gonna be great."
Feig: "It's gonna be great."
Pascal: "That's gonna be great.
gungas..
skosts.
Bill Murray was the only hold out over the years for a real 3rd Ghostbusters movie (even Rick Moranis was going to come back). I'm glad Bill was forced into it and is uncomfortable, because this train wreck is all due to him.
Ghostbusters 1984 > Ghostbusters 2016
I think that goes without commenting for likes.
water is wet
wow wonder how you got to that conclucion
Thank you, Captain Obvious. You have saved the day once again.
Controversial.
This is the closest RLM has ever gotten to actually being political.
Do you, ah.... see much RLM content?
milions of active clan members? O_o
hollywood seriously is nuts ...
Maybe a video game clan?
The fact that it has a whopping 70% on Rotten Tomatoes has made me cry at night.
So BvS is a politically incorrect and true underground kinography from a misunderstood auteur?
"70% to make you cry like a Ghostbusters fan on prom night"
+The Pickles
so mighty no 9 shat on fans and failed and is did this movie
will big coperations learn to stop pandering to feminist
or will they blame gamergate mra and 4chan when something fails because they are the children and not the "man babies" they claim
+Alexandre Martins
BvS is by no means a "good" movie in the objective sense. Even looking at the basics, you really only understand the motivations of 1 of the 3 main characters in the movie, and Lex's plan (i.e. what is supposed to be the narrative thrust and main conflict) is "Rube Goldbergian" in nature, to quote Rich Evans, and has so many elements that can and should have gone wrong, it's amazing that, in the few years it took for the movie to come out, nobody bothered to say, "Hey, shouldn't we change this so that it makes more sense than none at all?"
It's a bad movie.
But nowhere near as bad this new ghostbusters.
2:20 When Murray answered by he participated Ernie Hudson looked like "that's a croak of shit"
Kajetan Gams Murray looked like he had PTSD haha
Bill Murray is crying out please help me! I've been drag here by gun point!
"There are millions of klan members"
Do these people even live in reality?
oh wait, they live in Los Angeles.
I heard they had a rally in Dayton, Ohio recently and something like 9 people showed up.
Which is ironic, cause Los Angeles is filled with racism
I wanna believe he was trolling, he had a gun to his head like the rest of them
He is actualy insane. Check out some other interviews with him. Guy is a complete conspiracy nutjob. He also believes in ghosts...i remember he said he had sex with a ghost. Crazy dude
Well, of course
You say something negative about women or minorities, you're immediately given a membership to your local Klan branch
That's how it works, right?
Does anyone have the source for the background music? I've been looking for it since Prometheus questions..
This? soundcloud.com/jacob-kandlaker/synth-popular
Yup thanks bro :D
No worries, enjoy.
@@Nomicro4u The comment somehow got deleted, can you please tell me?
@@emceelucas9296 Hello, what is the song called?
10:46 can't tell if Dan Akroyd is trolling here or not.....
Dan Akroyd is fucking crazy.
It's mean that he would malign his fellow basement-dwelling, toy-opening, man-babies.
he's put on the spot talking about the racist assholes. NOT THE FANS.
Well that's just basic air traffic safety, man. You can't blame him for wanting that!
@Jason Rasmussen over a hundred years ago,things have changed.
Move over Bill Nye the Science Guy! Mike Stoklasa the Scientist Man is in the house!
I dont understand what grounds they could have to use legal action against Bill Murray. How can they force someone to be in a movie if they dont want to?
Thanks for this Red Letter Media. When you guys criticize something you tear it apart like a Rottweiler on a newborn kitten.
By the gods.
Like a pitbull with a toddler.
Rich said he hates cats so I'm positive this is a dummy account of his
No, and I am just seeing now this post got up voted! I have videos on my channel now if you want to see me in all my glory.
@@TheDrapetomanic _That's exactly what Rich would say_
11:15 - 11:45 is RLM gold.
ASMR with a vengeance.
The worst part about the new film is that I can't wear my Ghostbusters T-Shirt anymore. It shares the exact same logo and name with the good versions.
We need more Scientist Man. I mean honestly, we need more RLM in general, but dear lord do we need more Scientist Man and his rational, logical breakdowns of bullshit with the comedy stylings of his man children subjects.
This video is so relevant now since the dislike counter is off
I can't help but feel like Scientist Man was somewhat based on Egon Spengler.
Any redlettermedia video I can find that hasn't already been liked is a little gift
Should have brought up the naked Hamtaro retweet.
Explain?
Austin N/A thanks for covering for me during my absence and explaining it, you're doing god's work, son.
isnt Hamtaro always naked?
this is some quality memes
No
awww. I like GB2. It's not as bad as everyone is pointing out...especially compared to the 2016 monster.
It has a pretty wonderful prologue, I'll give it that. Everything prior to the Ghostbusters getting back together is hilarious. Then the movie's plot starts and it just dies
I watched it recently for the first time in years and years. I really enjoyed it. Didn't understand why it gets slagged off so much. Sure, it was never going to top the original, but it is decent.
I liked ghostbusters 2 but GB1 was just better more entertaining to
love gb2
I enjoyed it too, honestly. Viggo is a riot.
The problem I have with this movie is the same problem I have with the new Rocketeer movie, the new wolverine, the new Thor, etc. Instead of creating original properties that headline women, they just take the familiar and add [INSERT CURRENT TREND HERE] to "modernize" it. Birds of Prey would be perfect for the silver screen but seeing as Warner Bros/DC made a turd of a TV show, I'll probably never get to see it.
Wait... What? It's not suprising that X-23 would take over if Logan was killed, And she in no way just appeared, she's been around for like 13 years now.
Well that's Hollywood for you. "What about an original IP about a female protagonist?" "Nah, that's never going to sell. Just take some old franchise and replace the men with women."
She has been around for 13 years...as X-23. But that name doesn't sell comics. Wolverine does. But since Disney Marvel don't own the movie rights to Logan, or Fantastic Four, X-men, or mutants, they would rather kill off or phase out characters than just give free advertising to Fox films.
Vincent Pellegrini Yeah, but it's been hinted at for yeeaaars that she might take over if something were to happen.
+Courtney Johnson Have you ever seen Alien? Terminator? You know, cultural icons that both starred strong female characters and came out around 30 years ago?
ppnion
a ppinion oiece
Idk why, but that is the best typo.
ot's so funy
I'm a misogynist and for that reason I didn't enjoy the new Ghostbusters movie. If it was an all male cast with the same jokes being done, I think it would be my favorite movie of the year.
Great video... Although it has profoundly depressed me now... In a nutshell: Fuck Sony
+TheDragonDAFan
I remember reading.that amy is trying to push her ideology in the new spider man movie
God I hope Disney stops her
+TheGoldenCaulk
nuke san fran and those hipster multicolored hair and problem glasses with them
+ImmaLittlePip
But Max Landis looks good with rainbow hair...
I think you meant ot say, "In a nutsack: Fuck Sony," but yeah. That.
"i'm not surprise, it's really phallic in appearance"... and they all broke character.. That was the moment of the entire video.
Mary Poppins
The Bride (Kill Bill)
Coralline Jones (Coralline)
Scout (To Kill a Mockingbird)
Black Widow (Most of the MCU)
Most of the cast of Eulogy
Much of the cast of Love/Actually.
Oh, hello there. I was just posting a bunch of characters that proved all of the statements about how there are no women in movies wrong. Feel free to add more!
Princess Leia
Padme Amidala
Rey
Jyn Orso
Ahsoka Tano (Clone Wars theatrical release and TV series. Also Star Wars: Rebels TV show)
Scarlet Witch
Wonder Woman
Hermoine Granger
Eowyn
Arwyn
Galadriel
Katniss Everdeen (The Hunger Games)
Ripley
Dr. Louise Banks (Arrival)
Dr. Ryan Stone (Gravity)
Melissa Lewis (The Martian)
Dorothy (Wizard of Oz)
Scarlett O'Hara (Gone With the Wind)
Louise Brooks in Pandora's Box
Imperator Furiosa
Pitch Perfect movies
Alice in Wonderland
Princess Bride
Scully from X-Files (tv show)
Not sure “Her” counts...
2:12 You can see Bill Murray's soul leave his body when he said "These girls are funny."
Proud Anti-feminist here....and yeah, this movie was trash.
And NO....being Anti-Feminist does NOT mean I'm sexist or hate women, it means I'm Anti-Feminist.
proud anti-feminist with an Anime Avatar. You sure fit the stereotype to a T
"less than 1%" then shows the symbol for more than 1% lmao 9:07
quote unquote SCIENTIST MAN
It is painful to see Melissa McCarthy and Paul Feig being sensible at the end of the video saying what they SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE SAID during the whole damn thing. If only they did that from the beginning...
They probably couldn't when they were under contract.
Remember when they tried to cancel Angry Video Game Nerd for just saying he wasnt going to review it? His subs jumped by like 100,000 in a week after that nonsense. Good job, media!
Anti-feminism doesn't mean anti-woman.
THANK YOU! finally someone with common sense
if feminism means equality between men and women how can being anti feminist not be anti woman?
+Alex Bridges because it doesn't mean equality. Feminism is a movement who believe men are the root cause to any women-specific issues in the West.
No that's literally just the definition. You can't tell me that a metal box with 4 wheels and an engine isn't a car just because you say that's the "bullshit definition". You can be critical of specific things that specific people say, but at least from a literal standpoint, you can't be anti feminism and not anti woman at the same time.
If you have a problem with the movie, then criticize the movie. A very significant amount of the discussion surrounding this movie has nothing to do with the movie itself, and is in fact motivated by sexism. This, not criticisms of the movie itself, is what motivates people to say things like "wow people are being really sexist asshats about the new ghostbusters movie".
i literally cant believe im so old and this was 7 years ago but i know that it's the single most important reason why youtube eventually removed the dislike or thumbs down public count
it's funny coming back to this in 2024 after seeing how this type of shilling is so played out and tired
Is Scientist Man replacing RedLetterMedia?
Is TH-cam comments replacing Mr. Scientist Man?
It took 12 years to make!