@Dick Jones By pure chance, I just scrolled down to look at comments and started reading that quote right as it started being spoken in the video. Man that was fuckin weird.
@@andrewortiz1703 My guess would be since mark hamill is still alive they had real reference points to deage his face, but carrie fisher already died so they had to reconstruct more
Just listened to the video as white noise in the background, then looked at the date. It has a bit of a... Nostradamus-touch to it? I consider writing an e-mail to those guys and ask them about my future ("Will I ever be rich?", "Will my wife ever stop nagging?", "Will I get a glorious funeral procession?" - Answer: "No, no and nope.. and the best you can hope for, is being buried in an unmarked grave..."). And hold your hands behind your back, when a Robot flings you out a window, otherwise you'll ruin a perfectly good movie... "Dick"!"
5 years later this is still the greatest Half in the Bag opening. I especially love when Mike almost bursts a blood vessel saying "IT BROKE NEW GROUND" followed by Rich's laughter off camera.
+PAKTRA PRODUCTIONS (PAKTRA) I've read all of the canon novels and comics. There hasn't been a mention of it yet. It was hinted at in Season One of Star Wars Rebels. My guess is that we'll learn more about the castle in the upcoming Darth Vader comic set immediately after Revenge of the Sith. As far as the EU and fan fiction goes, I have no clue. I don't recall Vader ever having a castle in the EU.
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for _"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd _*_never_*_ agree to do."_ This time......................................... *it worked* *_And now, that's our world._* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
When that was happening I just thought "oh no they're bringing Luke into this" and then they did, and it was bad. Though Mark Hamill got to actually be on set, for some reason, so good for him I guess.
Rich Evans screaming "AT-STs! AT-STs! AT-STs!" has made an indelible impression on my memory. This is still going to be in my head twenty years from now.
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for _"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd _*_never_*_ agree to do."_ This time......................................... *it worked* *And now, that's our world.* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
Oh the execution was certainly impressive. But you have to remember that fanboys can't understand such complex ideas as use of music and direction. They're much too simple. I wouldn't be promoting the scene too much otherwise you'll confuse fanboys into thinking that it was the lightsaber that made the scene good.
Xenoforge78 Oh I agree, it's fucking stupid that anyone would place so much emphasis on a digital glowstick but it seems to be what the fanboys do, bizarrely.
Xenoforge78 Yeah man, don't misunderstand me. I liked the scene too. Comparing it to a scene from a horror movie was very astute. Definitely the best way they could have worked the lightsaber in there. I've just noticed that the fans seem to love that scene solely for the saber and the violence, not because it built Vader up as a sadistic killer who showed no mercy.
M Phylo I think the violence works in context as a way to differentiate Darth Vader's skills from the other characters in the movie, I mean, he was pretty much invulnerable as he cut down those troops and it didn't seem like there was really anything a mere soldier could do to resist him, which is exactly how I think of Darth Vader compared to regular people, not Jedi.
easterislehead That's a good point, but it seems very weird to include the scene right at the end, after all the conflict is over. Building Vader up at the very end of the movie is an odd choice as far as narrative structure goes. You could argue that the intent was to build up his appearance in Episode 4, but all it does is highlight how unimpressive episode's 4 Vader is comparatively. This is why the scene feels more like fan service to me than a genuinely necessary sequence. You could have had Vader accomplish the exact same end result by having him arrive a bit later, as he often does in the original films. For example, Vader could instead only arrive in time to see Princess Leia and the rebels escape in the Tantive IV, ending with that dramatic shot of him watching them. It would have been much like when he arrives just in time to see Han and Leia escape in the Millennium Falcon in Empire Strikes Back. It would have fit into the film and the series better had the scene been handled more like that, I reckon.
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for *"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd **_never_** agree to do."* This time......................................... *_it worked_* *_And now, that's our world._* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
Jay is the underrated editor on youtube, he has his own style that’s obviously different, i dont know enough about editing to point out what it is but my brain did
It at least looked like a miniature model and not like some shitty CGI crap. I believe that there where more shots where they used miniatures or they at least used enough CGI so that it looked more like miniatures. That is one of things that i liked about Rogue One.
John L Thor 2 is one of the least critically acclaimed MCU films, the first one did really well and made Thor, a nothing character, into a house hold name.
Well its not like Star Wars has any comic books or 800 page novels they can adapt or draw inspiration from. They just have a team of passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration should be.
@@RRRRRRRRR33 KOTOR 2 is superior, but only with the content restoration mod. The game basically deconstructs the whole idea of the force. Unfortunately it is also the philosophical end point of Star Wars and is itself an argument that the franchise just needs to end already. KOTOR 1 is fun, but it's a retread of old Star Wars adventures. The only reason it works is because it is *your* adventure, because it's a video game. And it is a well done retread, all things considered.
I thought about Kirk Douglas and his incredible age, and less than a week later he kicked the bucket. Now I think about James...I dont want to think about JEJ and his age.
Here, I transcribed the full cast: Felicity Jones - Gin Erso Diego Luna - Calrissian Endorrian Mablan Morpan - Guvan Dupan Plegnon Phemvon - Blam Suppelbut Jonn Quinn Blabo - Zorgla Fem Blacken
Felicity Jones' character being able to ace an entire squad of Storm Troopers... in fact any of the characters in this movie, and in the Force Awakens too, being able to ace entire squads of storm troopers is a huge problem in what is supposed to be a gritty war movie. It makes the Empire look goofy and mookish. I couldn't possibly comprehend them as a serious threat, or as having the capacity to build Deathstars. When characters die it isn't because life seems fragile, it's because some fucking writer just figured we need drama, and it's predictable and cheap. Look at all the Empires in real life. Like the U.S.A. for example, not only is the US is capable of turning entire cities into a pile of ash, but it commands legions of deadly, well trained, crack infantry and pilots, all armed with the best equipment money can buy. During the war in Vietnam even, were Vietnamese resistance fighters going around with fucking AKMs doing kung-fu flips around their technologically superior foe? NO! They died in vastly disproportionate numbers for every single American casualty they could eek out. Tell me then how am I supposed to see this as a gritty war movie when it doesn't even in the slightest portray accurately the kind of war the rebellion is in? You want to make the characters' struggle relateable? Then have them shit their pants at the sheer sight of a Storm Trooper. Make it so that every kill they get against their insurmountable foe seems earned and satisfying. Don't make me pity the poor bastards in the white suits.
Yeah, you know it is bad when you're actually feeling sympathetic to the poor storm troopers. I know I was. K2-SO freaking did a no-look grenade toss, killing some troopers for COMIC RELIEF at one point.
Yeah, but they did show scenes where arrows were literally bouncing off the stormtrooper armor. And the ewoks sustained pretty bad losses, initially getting their butts kicked. And they even worked in a humanizing 'pain of war' scene better than anything in Rogue One, where an Ewok tries to revive his fallen buddy in the midst of battle. It was nice, showing the toll of war rather than the 'noble sacrifice and glory in death for a cause' (typical war movie schlock) we get in Rogue 1.
great comment. I don't mind having a guy like Chirrut being a super fighting guy but when the protagonist is as well it makes things boring. I think there's too much of that in the prequels, the protagonists being practically invincible jedi fighting swarms of troops without any fear.
The movie's sole existence was to create this review and it still makes me laugh after 6 years. The part where Mike is naming the actors and the characters they plan then goes off and makes up obviously fake and ridiculous names ALWAYS makes me laugh out loud. XD
15:57 “Well if he ran the computers, why does Tarkin look like he fell down the Uncanny Valley” is probably one of the best jokes I’ve heard in a Red Letter Media video
Felicity Jones stars as Jyn Erso Diego Luna stars as Calrissian Andorian Moblon Morpon stars as Goovan Doopan Plegnon Famvon stars as Blam Supplebutt Jun Quin Blabbo stars as Zorgla Van Blacken With a cast list like this how could they have gone wrong?
Because they wrote all the characters as forgettable apart from k2so who's the only one I gave a shit about when they died the fucking robot was the most well rounded character
"The Star Wars universe, here's the dirty little secret, it's very small and very limited, whenever Star Wars tries to expand outside out of Tie-Fighters, X-Wings, Stormtroopers and lightsabers it's bad." Hitting the nail on the head..
Yeah me too, it was an eye opener. I think if George Lucas would have continued shortly after Return of the Jedi it would have been different. But now we only had the original trilogy for so long that it's been etched into us so hard that nothing else can be Star Wars, it can only bear some resemblance
+Mordalon : My thoughts exactly. Although I will admit that KotOR I, while a different story, is a reskin of the fun adventure theme from the original trilogy (a good one). KotOR II literally deconstructs the Star Wars universe; it's the anti-Star Wars in that it holds a mirror up to the naive adventure and moral dichotomy of Star Wars and tears it apart.
Top 10 Things that are new and different about Rogue One. 1. Blind Samurai. 2. First time seeing an Imperial base (other than a Death Star or Starkiller). 3. Rebels are not perfect and actually do horrible things (you know...like in a real war). 4. First time seeing what life is like under the Empire and why it sucks. Before, we just knew they were "the bad guys," but (with the exception of blowing up Alderaan) we never really got a sense of why. 5. Subtitles that tell us where we are. 6. First time seeing a kyber crystal (although I think there might have been one in a deleted scene in the beginning of ROTJ when Luke was building his lightsaber). 7. Planetary shield that you can actually see and understand how it works. 8. Vader in a bacta tank. 9. Hammerhead ship (that was cool!) 10. ALL main characters die (that took some serious balls).
Rebuttal. 1. Chinese box office and it was the Whills. Google it. 2. Wrong. Endor in ROTJ. 3. Han was not perfect. He killed a guy in cold blood in A New Hope. 4. Martial Law in a A New Hope, searching vehicles. Seized Cloud City in Empire. 5. The movie Dune did this. Big deal. 6. Established lore. Who cares. I went into a crystal cave in KOTOR which was better than this movie. 7. Can see it. No idea how it works. Also we saw it in Spaceballs. Why don't you explain that (pseudo) science to us btw. 8. So what. Luke was in one in Empire. 9. Prequels had a ton of new ships. They still sucked. 10. No it didn't. They had to die for continuity. If you did not know they were all going to die going into the movie when Disney told you there would be no sequels I don't know what to tell you. The only question was whether Vader would behead them like Mace Windu did to Boba Fett's dad. Vader failed to deliver.
1. I'm talking about the movies. 2. touche. 3. Han was not part of the rebellion at that time. In fact he showed quite a bit of distain for it. 4. Meh. Not really. 5. I'm talking about Star Wars movies. I did not intend to imply that his had never been done in ANY movie. 6. It was important to the plot. 7. Explained in detail how it works and why it's important. Watch the movie (again Star Wars -- NOT Spaceballs, which I also loved, btw). 8. Important to the plot. Showed Vader vulnerable. 9. This one actually did something new and interesting. 10. MANY ways of handling that without killing them off (as was mentioned in the review)
Darius Spearman wow that a clear prooves that you don't see that much movies and shows outside star wars. a blind guy who can see with powers (daredevil, avatar:the legend of aang) subtitles of places (every spy movie) showing how life suck to the bad guys (spiderman, no country for old man) showing that good guys can be assholes (saving private ryan, suicide squad) killing characters (game of thrones, the Walking dead, and it could have being impactfull if any of those character had any develop, and they didn't).
If we live long enough, we WILL see CGI blue ghost Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Christensen, Yoda, Rey, and of course, Darth Sidious all fucking each other in giant blue orgy. 2022 is my guess.
@@darthnephilim 6 episodes in and it didn't grab me. And it's not like I'm missing Vader, lightsabers, TIE fighters (I don't remember if there's any in it, to be honest), etc. But there's nothing interesting in it thus far.
@allluckyseven I'll admit I wasn't super interested to begin with but on rewatch I started to really start noticing all the little bits I missed. Highly suggest giving it another shot.
Well, you know it’s hard for them to get such a major celebrity regularly for their videos, so it’s good that they’ve found a way to insert him into videos with CGI for our amusement.
Wait... wait wait wait... "Take out all the space battle shit" Are you... what? That was some of the best shit in the movie, and you want them to cut it out? Fucking hell, you guys just don't know how to have fun anymore.
I thought this movie had way less fan service than TFA. The only stuff i can think of was the cameo by those thugs from Mos Eisley and our two droid sidekicks. Other than that, though, i cant think of anything. Of course Darth Vader could be considered fan service, but he had every reason to be in this movie. In his first appearance, he was talking to Krennick because there had been several screw-ups lately and Vader was the guy who sorted that stuff out. In the last scene, Vader's Star Destroyer needs to chase after Leia's ship. You know that big opening scene we all love? Vader's ship. Vader is literally in the opening scene to the movie that starts right after this one ends. Why would Vader not be in the last scene.
Ben Moak There were so many references to other Star Wars media and I'm not just talking about the original trilogy. I noticed about ten references if you really know your Star Wars lore.
Except "The Force Awakens" had its own story, its own characters, its own world, even if the structure and the beats were ripped from elsewhere. It still was its own movie. But even on paper, "Rogue One" is so beholden to "A New Hope" and everything else in the Star Wars mythos that all of the fan service just bogged it down and kept it from being something original.
"Daisy Riddley is charismatic as hell in that movie!" I nearly spat out my drink hearing that, rofl yes mouth permanently gaping open with eyes wide for every single scene with a blank look of utter empty headedness is VERY charismatic xD
I wouldn't say billions, lets try millions and secondly the the vast majority aren't the greatest people to judge something by since they often don't know what is good rather what makes them happy.
Typical woman haters. Daisy did a good performance and was a very charming and interesting character. I guess moronic star wars fans can hold on to their opinion that Daisy is a n"empty headed mary sue" but its just simply not true. She was good.
yup I suppose you can't criticize a woman without being a sexist... good point Charlie, from now on I will stick to criticizing men only. That seems fairer and less sexist, well done. Your argument for her good performance is equally impressive - I can't find a hole in it.
@@matchesburn Jay typically has the coldest and least interesting takes, so praising Daisy Ridley is in character for him. I think if this review were done today, he would be with the program.
Yea, the praise of Daisy Ridley's Character, with Jay going so far as to call the Character "Charismatic as Hell" is getting cringier with time, (post TLJ).. In My Opinion, I imagine he'd like to have that one back, Along with stating that CGI Tarkin looked good... haha
@@shawnseal1762 TLJ should not alter the perceived quality of daisy Ridley's acting performance in TFA. People are waaaay too caught up in the "Mary Sue Mary Sue" thing. And IMO unfairly judge her performance. (Let's not forget that even the original star wars trilogy was plagued by some awkward deliveries. )
Dakka not everyone is gonna read the book. I enjoyed rogue one but their was very little character to the charters! That's the major downfall with this movie! I cared about the Asian dudes and K2 cuz they had the most character to them.
You shouldn’t have to read novels to get back stories to main characters or important information. I love the legends EU and Star Wars. But the biggest disappointment ever is how amazing the novels surrounding the prequel era stuff retroactively makes the prequels actually decent. But if you view just the locked it’s incoherent and that is not okay.
“Will it though? Look at the Marvel movies?” Revisiting this in 2023, I wish I could go back in time to burst through the door and say, “hi I’m from the future and boy do I have some news for you”
She's not technically actually in this movie..but lets give a moment to send our love to Carrie fisher's today. She had a big ass heart attack. (UPDATE) Carrie Fisher, child of Hollywood who blazed a path as StarWars heroine, screenwriter and author, dies at 60 12/27/2016 - She will be missed.
+DrTheKay Woah...Look at the Emo Rage with you! I could care less about up votes dingle berry butthole muncher :) I honestly wrote that when I heard about her heart attack. Being a fan of star wars and of Carrie I wanted to post something about it. Why does that make you mad? I was not attacking anyone. This is a great example of how the haters have taken over in here tho. My post was not directed at you in any ways, it was a way to wish someone well. I'd hate to be in your family. I can see you around the table calling each other names and throwing knives. You are just a horrible person!
Here is my ultimate problem with this review: RLM could have applied every criticism made about Rogue One to Force Awakens yet they never did. And the funny part is that I thought Rogue One told a more compelling story.
Ramon Suarez I think that's definitely part of it. Fewer new characters means they all get more screen-time. The exception is Po. I think they dropped the ball with him a bit. We didn't see much of him at all. Overall, I think since the characters in Rogue One didn't get much of our attention, several of them just seem like gimmicks to me.
I mean. You had a main character that was a cold-blooded murdering terrorist. That's a pretty big risk. You didn't have clean cut characters, you had an ensemble cast of characters that seemed more like people than archetypal heroes. They did some subtle world building. Jedha is a genuinely interesting concept. A Jedi Holy City where they harvested kyber crystals? That's pretty damn cool. This film does a good job of showing the dirty side of the Rebellion, the harshness of the Empire, and even brought some of the mysticism back to the Force. The space battles were fun and inventive, something I missed in TFA... I don't know, I thought this was a good movie. It gave me more faith in Disney than TFA. And that's coming from a dirty Force Awakens apologist.
hentropy People all hated Empire when it originally came out for being different and darker. It'll be interesting to see how people view Rogue One in a few years
You make an excellent point, especially since Force Awakens was received much more positively in its early days than it was after a few months had passed.
I agree with your points, the world setting was perfect I just wish they had fleshed out the characters and beefed up the score and I would've been on cloud nine. I can see both arguments on the Movie and can understand why people will like or dislike it. Missed opportunity but very nearly executed.
I thought it was overly negative and ridiculous. It's a Star Wars film, what the hell did you expect? It's almost like no matter what they showed they wouldn't have enjoyed the movie. Even Mike said, "So what?" about the movies premise.. Ok? Then don't watch the film.
eluxsus0195684 Well, Mike liked TFA. So they don't hate every new entry, it's just what they said: There couldve been a lot more story or at least some clever twists. They even suggested a few things, like James Bond in space. I totally get what they mean.
The problem I have is that you cant complain about them reusing assets from other films. The logic behind the AT-ATs is flawed. They didn't put them in Rogue One because they were badass. The empire has a finite amount of weapons and vehicles they can deploy. Its an all terrain armored transport. All terrain. Does anyone really think the empire wouldn't logically have a ton of them stationed on a world containing all their secrets. Why are there TIE fighters? Not to appeal to fans. TIE fighters are mass produced and cheap. Whats more offensive is them still being used in TFA. What I find more surprising was there only being 2 star destroyers at Scarif. That shows overconfidence. The criticism I see of this film always looks both too deeply and too shallowly. Its not perfect. My biggest complaint about the film is the cards used to name planets. It felt like guardians of the galaxy in a really knock off way. Couldn't Jyn have just as easily been imprisoned on Jedha instead of being on one planet then moved to another? Those are problems because it doesn't show anything and bloats the movie with an increased budget and runtime which they could've filled with something more developmental. Playing this movie safe would've been keeping the characters alive to use in Rogue two in between Empire and Jedi. The only real fan service I can directly think of was Vader's massacre and cameos from assface and assface's friend. Neither of those needed to be in the film at all and were solely done for the fans. Was the movie better with Vader's massacre? You bet your goddamn ass it was better. Real criticism would be calling out the lack of character development on characters like Baze and Cassian. Baze did not really have a character arc whatsoever and Cassian was an unlikable generic soldier. Fake, view-bait criticism is crying that the WAR film set during the rebellion is too derivative of vehicles, commanders, and weapons from that same era. That criticism is ok in the case of TFA because it takes place THIRTY years later, having the same soldiers and ships and weapons is lazy and too close to the chest. Its become popular opinion now that bashing star wars is ok if its similar to other movies in the series just because TFA did it. TFA was lazy, it was not bad. At this point there is literally nothing they can do that will please these "not good enough" "fans". If they took out the space battle and had a larger land battle with more troops there would be complaints of "too many stormtroopers". If they went the other way and had no land battle and a space battle "too many ships". If they took both out and turned Chirrut into a jedi "why is there a jedi in rogue one? This is supposed to be different". What exactly do you want? There is nothing that can actually be done to please you. Its that simple.
How can you pull information from another film, complain that it doesn't match up and then when you're told otherwise, imply that the new information wasn't in the film so it doesn't count? A bit unreasonable don't you think?
Just because they look the same to *you* doesn't mean they look the same to observant people. The Rogue One Walkers are clearly hollow cargo haulers. The AT-ACT toy has been out for weeks. But even if you just go by the two movies they are clearly different vehicles.
Right, but again, these are *not* AT-ATs, they are AT-ACTs. They are not war-machines, but Cargo carriers. Plus they are being attacked X-Wings and not the much smaller speeders, plus this is set three or four years before Empire Strikes Back, there are so many reasons why these things blow up easier. Who knows why the filmmakers wanted a different kind of vehicle. In the end, it is probably just a ploy to sell toys. Shrug.
It all makes sense, when you use the EU logic, and estimate that lucas actually had a plan for all of it (what he hadn't) it won't help to talk any sense into it later :)
~ 20 seconds of good movie in Rogue One: Vader force pushes a rebel into the ceiling, leaves him there, deflects a few bolts into some other rebels, THEN SLICES THE GUY ON THE CEILING, *THEN LET'S HIM FALL* LMAO
Those death toopers must be sweaty as Hell having to hike half mile from their landing point to their actual destination every mission for dramatic effect
Noe Camarena It makes sense for Force Awakens to have fanservice in order to bring people back in from the disaster that was the prequels. But the fanservice was nowhere near as distracting and unnecassary as it is in rogue one. Force Awakens actually had interesting characters, rogue relied on fanservice and fanservice alone. Instead of giving us characters to care about, they gave us references and call backs that did nothing to help the story. Rogue one felt like it was made by the member berries.
The first hour wasn't boring at all lmao. The real issue with TFA was the strong plot tie with ANH. Yet the acting, writing, and plot is better than Rogue one.
The first hour is insanely boring. Nothing happens until they get to scariff, but by that time I didn't even care because the characters are so poorly written. The first half is boring because the character are uninteresting and the dialogue is also uninteresting, it's all, "we have to go here and do this thing", they then do that thing, then repeat. If the characters are boring, the story and the conversations will be boring as well. So yes, the first hour is in fact boring.
Rich seemed like he liked the movie but didn't want to say it out loud. I think it was better than TFA and I really like TFA, the characters while shallow were not just carbon copies of old Star Wars characters and the story improved the experience one will have rewatching the New Hope. Also AT-ATs, AT-STs, stormtroopers, Vader and other characters are not fan service. They are part of the universe and that's why people like seeing them - it's like bitching about the Enterprise, transporters and Klingons in a Star Trek film.
Yep. Did you guys also notice that Jay laughs at EVERY fucking thing that Mike says? even if its not funny at all? Not just in this video I mean in general. And yes, Rich appeared very shy in this video like he was scared to disagree. They have such a bizarre relationship.
The fuck is this PC Chair psychology bullshit, they did not like the film, Movie reviewer's don't run in wolf packs with dominant males leading the charge....be objective please...
"In 30 years are we gonna get CG Mark Hamill?" Oh Jay, it didn't even take them 5...
@@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI Mandalorian season 2 finale
Bingo Gin and Yahtzee my friend
I came to write the exact same comment
Basically ruined Mandalorian for me lol for once we got a refreshing new story, but nope, had to shoehorn the Skywalkers again in the end...
@@BlindDweller it fucks up the sequel trilogy so that makes me happy
"I'm picturing in 30 years when Disney is still milking Star Wars...are we gonna get CG Mark Hamill?"
Turned out it was only three years
@@andrewortiz1703 my god young luke and leia looked so fake ._.
@@justtheaverageone3840 Luke looked better than Leia
@Dick Jones By pure chance, I just scrolled down to look at comments and started reading that quote right as it started being spoken in the video. Man that was fuckin weird.
@@andrewortiz1703 My guess would be since mark hamill is still alive they had real reference points to deage his face, but carrie fisher already died so they had to reconstruct more
Just listened to the video as white noise in the background, then looked at the date. It has a bit of a... Nostradamus-touch to it? I consider writing an e-mail to those guys and ask them about my future ("Will I ever be rich?", "Will my wife ever stop nagging?", "Will I get a glorious funeral procession?" - Answer: "No, no and nope.. and the best you can hope for, is being buried in an unmarked grave...").
And hold your hands behind your back, when a Robot flings you out a window, otherwise you'll ruin a perfectly good movie... "Dick"!"
Rich looks completely correct in his shirt, tie and hard hat, he could walk into any building site and make them do what he wanted.
It's like Mike Ehrmantraut in Better Call Saul; He just looks so old and beat down by life that he fits right in.
He's just old enough and clean enough to be a higher up so you can't risk not doing what he says
Hahaha
he could walk into any building naked and make them do what he wanted
I'd always do whatever Rich says.
5 years later this is still the greatest Half in the Bag opening. I especially love when Mike almost bursts a blood vessel saying "IT BROKE NEW GROUND" followed by Rich's laughter off camera.
I laughed just reading that lol
@@manray5140 It is a transcendent noise.
Rogue One has held up better than a bunch of the other new Star Wars movies. The opening of this video is gold, though.
Rogue One is the best Disney Star Wars film, and that's quite sad.@@TheTrooper506
For reals.
I like to think Palpatine built Vader's castle on Mustafar just to fuck with him.
+PAKTRA PRODUCTIONS (PAKTRA) Not yet there isn't. I look forward to learning more about that castle, though.
+PAKTRA PRODUCTIONS (PAKTRA) I've read all of the canon novels and comics. There hasn't been a mention of it yet. It was hinted at in Season One of Star Wars Rebels. My guess is that we'll learn more about the castle in the upcoming Darth Vader comic set immediately after Revenge of the Sith.
As far as the EU and fan fiction goes, I have no clue. I don't recall Vader ever having a castle in the EU.
Building this castle on the lava planet for Vader is one of the many evil things Palpatine is capable to do.
He lives there because it's the only planet where Wudu live.
twmcgraw303 Vader did have a castle in the EU, but it was not on Mustafar.
CGI Tarkin is the key to all of this, because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before.
oh no
It's gonna be great.
Tarkin's like stanzas in a poem, he rhymes.
LOL
oh my god you NAILED it! I'm laughing so hard!
In 2021, I feel confident saying that the opening skit of this review has become more iconic than Rogue One itself.
oh my god you might actually be right
Definitely
No! Rogue One is the BEST of the Disney Star Wars because... It didn't have full arcs for any of its characters?
@@corngreaterthanwheat it had paper thin characters throughout. Even Jyn and Cassian were a post it notes worth
Definitely
“Are we going to get, like, CGI Mark Hamill?” Yes. You absolutely will. And people will record themselves clapping and crying over it.
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for _"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd _*_never_*_ agree to do."_
This time......................................... *it worked*
*_And now, that's our world._* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
They clapped and cried because...THEY KNEW WHAT THAT WAS!!!!!
When that was happening I just thought "oh no they're bringing Luke into this" and then they did, and it was bad. Though Mark Hamill got to actually be on set, for some reason, so good for him I guess.
I saw Luke Skywalker and I claaaaaaped. I clapped because I know what that is!
@@bauer0788 I cried like a man
Rich Evans screaming "AT-STs! AT-STs! AT-STs!" has made an indelible impression on my memory. This is still going to be in my head twenty years from now.
AT-ST...D?
Indellible.terrific.that's like teddy president shooting endangered tigers. And China is exotic.
Lmaoooo I rewatched it for this reason
It's the way he perfectly repeats it over and over.
On my death bed when they ask what is going through my head I’ll point them to the first 4 minutes of this video
That intro will never not be funny
I rewatched it today and I clapped!
The moment when Jay just freezes and bursts out laughing kills me every time
IT BROKE NEW GRO-O-U-U-UND!!!!
John Sieglaff I come hear just for that intro
I clapped I clapped when I saw it!!
Rich Evans dancing and shouting ATST'S has been living in my head rent free for years.
Same.
For real bro
Same here...
2021, and people are STILL saying "I clapped", and "AT-ST's AT-ST's".
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS!!!!
I always clap when I hear I CLAPPED!
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOD-
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
It's a solid in-joke that also translates well outside of the community of people who know where it's from.
Ya know what fixes the whole thing with Tarkin? You make all of his conversations through one of the hologram things.
I thought the same thing.
Or replace him with Darth Vader
Great idea. Or have a predecessor that Vader kills for incompetence near the end and says Tarkin will take over
@@RossTheNinja Wouldn't work due to Leia telling Tarkin that he's *still* holding Vader's leash, implying he's been Vader's superior for a while.
Inno Clarke But isn’t Vader second in command to the empire?
Darth Vader was hiding in the walls.
Best comment lol
Oh my GAAAAAAAAAAHWD!!!!!
-That old Mr Tarkin was just in my spaceship!
-But Mr Tarkin's not on the planet.
DUN DUN DUUUUUN
Johnny?
"why does Tarkin look like he fell down the uncanny valley?" glorious one-liner.
Who would've thought that Cassian Andor would be in one of the best thing Star Wars has produced in years.
"Guy McAccent"
Dasveiner was hoping for this comment lmao
AT-ST'S AT-ST'S AT-ST'S
STAR DESTROYERS
AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIDS-ST'S!
Saul Hernandez... star wars is the one ok Chewbacca but it get weird if you fill a room with multiple Chewbaccas.
Saul Hernandez for the intro thats the backing sound. Me, personally, I loved it
AT-FT - All Terrain-Fucking Transport
the opening 3 minutes is probably the greatest thing ever captured on film
Better than the sequels
@@unclephillymya a video of a cat stuck in a tree is better than the sequels to be honest
Jay: "In 30 years are we gonna get like CGI Mark Hamill?"
Disney: "You underestimate my power!"
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for _"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd _*_never_*_ agree to do."_
This time......................................... *it worked*
*And now, that's our world.* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
@@MegaZeta You do know Lucas did that in the Special Editions right? LMAO
@@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184 wait with which actor?
"Go hide in the bunker, and Forest Whitaker will come get you." That's not a backstory, it's a threat.
That's not a threat, that's a promise.
Yeah, man did you see what he did to that hot chick in last king of Scotland?
🤣
🤣🤣
I dunno. That scene where Vader slices down those soldiers like they're toys while horror-esque music plays was fucking BRILLIANT in my mind.
Oh the execution was certainly impressive. But you have to remember that fanboys can't understand such complex ideas as use of music and direction. They're much too simple. I wouldn't be promoting the scene too much otherwise you'll confuse fanboys into thinking that it was the lightsaber that made the scene good.
Xenoforge78 Oh I agree, it's fucking stupid that anyone would place so much emphasis on a digital glowstick but it seems to be what the fanboys do, bizarrely.
Xenoforge78 Yeah man, don't misunderstand me. I liked the scene too. Comparing it to a scene from a horror movie was very astute. Definitely the best way they could have worked the lightsaber in there. I've just noticed that the fans seem to love that scene solely for the saber and the violence, not because it built Vader up as a sadistic killer who showed no mercy.
M Phylo I think the violence works in context as a way to differentiate Darth Vader's skills from the other characters in the movie, I mean, he was pretty much invulnerable as he cut down those troops and it didn't seem like there was really anything a mere soldier could do to resist him, which is exactly how I think of Darth Vader compared to regular people, not Jedi.
easterislehead That's a good point, but it seems very weird to include the scene right at the end, after all the conflict is over. Building Vader up at the very end of the movie is an odd choice as far as narrative structure goes.
You could argue that the intent was to build up his appearance in Episode 4, but all it does is highlight how unimpressive episode's 4 Vader is comparatively.
This is why the scene feels more like fan service to me than a genuinely necessary sequence. You could have had Vader accomplish the exact same end result by having him arrive a bit later, as he often does in the original films. For example, Vader could instead only arrive in time to see Princess Leia and the rebels escape in the Tantive IV, ending with that dramatic shot of him watching them. It would have been much like when he arrives just in time to see Han and Leia escape in the Millennium Falcon in Empire Strikes Back. It would have fit into the film and the series better had the scene been handled more like that, I reckon.
"In 30 years are we going to get a CGI Mark Hamill"
*Laughs in Mandalorian*
_Ghostbusters: Afterlife_ was the latest test case for *"When the actor dies, license their likeness to do things they'd **_never_** agree to do."*
This time......................................... *_it worked_*
*_And now, that's our world._* Studios can't *_wait_* for actors to die.
*laughs in book of boba fett*
*cries
Jay is the underrated editor on youtube, he has his own style that’s obviously different, i dont know enough about editing to point out what it is but my brain did
i think Mike is the editor, Jay the camera guy.
@@dhollsynthmusicboth edit think they all take turns on cameras including rich, Jack etc
Darth Vader's lava castle was a Life Day present from Palpatine.
That was just Palpatine messing with him again.
"Okay Lord Vader. You can have a palace on a planet covered in lava...or a planet covered in SAND"
You mean Sheev
ChannelJ52 It was a the mustafar branch of Emperor Palpatine's rehab center.
It at least looked like a miniature model and not like some shitty CGI crap.
I believe that there where more shots where they used miniatures or they at least used enough CGI so that it looked more like miniatures. That is one of things that i liked about Rogue One.
Actually the Marvel movies got old to me years ago...
Yep.
nic defendis And you think that I spent all that money or what is the pont?
He said for him. He speaks for me as well.
Can't really say that considering that that's a non mainstream opinion.
John L Thor 2 is one of the least critically acclaimed MCU films, the first one did really well and made Thor, a nothing character, into a house hold name.
Mike’s trailer edit with cartoon Tarkin is gold, along with background laughter..
Rich's disgust at 21:40 feels more genuine than the entirety of Disney's star wars. And mike's reaction is great.
He looks deeply troubled like Jay just told him he was dying.
You have not even watched Star Wars. Go get me a pan
21:42
one of my favorite RLM moments ever hahahah
Ive always noticed that rich is the only one that makes mike crack and genuinely makes him laugh haha
In 2016, Rich Evans saying the Star Wars universe is incredibly limited was a bold controversial statement. In 2019 it's obvious.
Well its not like Star Wars has any comic books or 800 page novels they can adapt or draw inspiration from. They just have a team of passionate storytellers who get together and talk about what the next iteration should be.
@@RRRRRRRRR33 KOTOR 2 is superior, but only with the content restoration mod. The game basically deconstructs the whole idea of the force. Unfortunately it is also the philosophical end point of Star Wars and is itself an argument that the franchise just needs to end already.
KOTOR 1 is fun, but it's a retread of old Star Wars adventures. The only reason it works is because it is *your* adventure, because it's a video game. And it is a well done retread, all things considered.
This thread has aged very well considering the similarities between the Rise of Skywalker and KOTOR.
redplague the Rise of skywalker is similar to almost all videogames.
Obvious? Funny, then, how Rich then went back on that statement for the _Mandalorian_ re:View, offering it as evidence he was wrong.
James Earl Jones is 89. He's not getting up there, he's there.
I thought about Kirk Douglas and his incredible age, and less than a week later he kicked the bucket. Now I think about James...I dont want to think about JEJ and his age.
he wasn't 89 in 2016 you know?
@@92brunod So "only" 84? In a country where most die at 78.
😂
He's on the death star, yes.
The "bad-cgi-Tarkin" trailer at 16:04 never fails to get me laughing.
This. I don't think I've ever heard them laugh that hard, before
That was CGI?! 🤯
This opening is still hilarious every time I watch it. So much sarcasm, I love it. When Rich says 'Star Destroyers, I'm gonna cum' I always lose it
"I KNOW WHAT THAT IS"
@@Kaumak94 I saw Darth Vader's lightsaber and I clapped because I knew what it was! IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
AT-ST! AT-ST!
Here, I transcribed the full cast:
Felicity Jones - Gin Erso
Diego Luna - Calrissian Endorrian
Mablan Morpan - Guvan Dupan
Plegnon Phemvon - Blam Suppelbut
Jonn Quinn Blabo - Zorgla Fem Blacken
"Andorian", you Trek-ignorant numpty. Actually all of your spelling is terrible.
Supplebutt*
Misspelled it intentionally, like everything else
Blam Suppelbut is so fucking hot.
dat ass ayy lmao
DON'T FORGET BASIL OREGANO IS JIMMY SMITS. HE WAS ON DA PLANET DAT GOT BLOWD UP.
to this day i still can’t get over “Mon Mothma’s back” or “BASIL OREGANO.”
Christian Eggers HE GOT BLOWED UP ON ALDERAAN!!!
@@elenaphisher244 THATS THE PLANET THAT GETS BLOWED UP!!
AAALDERAAN
Rich's laugh reaches a pitch equal to the Imperial alarm klaxon.
The man is underused by the industry in every way.
Most annoying voice
Oh no he said "Cgi Mark Hamill"
You've cursed us, Jay!
IT HAPPENED
Felicity Jones' character being able to ace an entire squad of Storm Troopers... in fact any of the characters in this movie, and in the Force Awakens too, being able to ace entire squads of storm troopers is a huge problem in what is supposed to be a gritty war movie. It makes the Empire look goofy and mookish. I couldn't possibly comprehend them as a serious threat, or as having the capacity to build Deathstars. When characters die it isn't because life seems fragile, it's because some fucking writer just figured we need drama, and it's predictable and cheap.
Look at all the Empires in real life. Like the U.S.A. for example, not only is the US is capable of turning entire cities into a pile of ash, but it commands legions of deadly, well trained, crack infantry and pilots, all armed with the best equipment money can buy. During the war in Vietnam even, were Vietnamese resistance fighters going around with fucking AKMs doing kung-fu flips around their technologically superior foe? NO! They died in vastly disproportionate numbers for every single American casualty they could eek out.
Tell me then how am I supposed to see this as a gritty war movie when it doesn't even in the slightest portray accurately the kind of war the rebellion is in? You want to make the characters' struggle relateable? Then have them shit their pants at the sheer sight of a Storm Trooper. Make it so that every kill they get against their insurmountable foe seems earned and satisfying. Don't make me pity the poor bastards in the white suits.
Yeah, you know it is bad when you're actually feeling sympathetic to the poor storm troopers. I know I was. K2-SO freaking did a no-look grenade toss, killing some troopers for COMIC RELIEF at one point.
Well said..
Storm Troopers were destroyed by a bunch of teddy bears with rocks in the original trilogy.
Yeah, but they did show scenes where arrows were literally bouncing off the stormtrooper armor. And the ewoks sustained pretty bad losses, initially getting their butts kicked. And they even worked in a humanizing 'pain of war' scene better than anything in Rogue One, where an Ewok tries to revive his fallen buddy in the midst of battle. It was nice, showing the toll of war rather than the 'noble sacrifice and glory in death for a cause' (typical war movie schlock) we get in Rogue 1.
great comment.
I don't mind having a guy like Chirrut being a super fighting guy but when the protagonist is as well it makes things boring. I think there's too much of that in the prequels, the protagonists being practically invincible jedi fighting swarms of troops without any fear.
Whenever Rich talks about Grand Moff Tarkin, am I the only one who keeps hearing "Gramma Tarkin"?
"Very, very cruel."
NO! And I'm glad we're on the same page about this
It's almost like those words sound similar.
2:16 I love coming back to watch Jay fail miserably to keep a straight face here
The movie's sole existence was to create this review and it still makes me laugh after 6 years. The part where Mike is naming the actors and the characters they plan then goes off and makes up obviously fake and ridiculous names ALWAYS makes me laugh out loud. XD
15:57 “Well if he ran the computers, why does Tarkin look like he fell down the Uncanny Valley” is probably one of the best jokes I’ve heard in a Red Letter Media video
Felicity Jones stars as Jyn Erso
Diego Luna stars as Calrissian Andorian
Moblon Morpon stars as Goovan Doopan
Plegnon Famvon stars as Blam Supplebutt
Jun Quin Blabbo stars as Zorgla Van Blacken
With a cast list like this how could they have gone wrong?
Because they wrote all the characters as forgettable apart from k2so who's the only one I gave a shit about when they died the fucking robot was the most well rounded character
edge lord The death of the droid hit me hard mate. The others....not so much.
@@joejitsu034
He was a leaf on the wind.
Alan Pennie aren’t we all mate?
I want to see a movie now with Plegnon Famvon as Blam Supplebutt.
"The Star Wars universe, here's the dirty little secret, it's very small and very limited, whenever Star Wars tries to expand outside out of Tie-Fighters, X-Wings, Stormtroopers and lightsabers it's bad."
Hitting the nail on the head..
Realising that made me depressed
Yeah me too, it was an eye opener.
I think if George Lucas would have continued shortly after Return of the Jedi it would have been different.
But now we only had the original trilogy for so long that it's been etched into us so hard that nothing else can be Star Wars, it can only bear some resemblance
Star Trek was way more milkable!
The Star Wars universe is only limited by people complaining about what Star Wars should be.
+Mordalon : My thoughts exactly. Although I will admit that KotOR I, while a different story, is a reskin of the fun adventure theme from the original trilogy (a good one). KotOR II literally deconstructs the Star Wars universe; it's the anti-Star Wars in that it holds a mirror up to the naive adventure and moral dichotomy of Star Wars and tears it apart.
“He got blown up on alderon!!!!” might be the hardest I’ve ever laughed
It just dawned on me that Rogue One is pretty much discount Halo Reach
Holy shit, lmao
When a Halo plot is the better version of something, you failed pretty miserably.
Halo could have reached starwars status but the franchise died in Reach.
It just forward unto dawned on me that Rogue One is pretty much discount Halo Reach
Both were very heavily inspired by Seven Samurai and (the American western version) The Magnificent Seven
Top 10 Things that are new and different about Rogue One.
1. Blind Samurai.
2. First time seeing an Imperial base (other than a Death Star or Starkiller).
3. Rebels are not perfect and actually do horrible things (you know...like in a real war).
4. First time seeing what life is like under the Empire and why it sucks. Before, we just knew they were "the bad guys," but (with the exception of blowing up Alderaan) we never really got a sense of why.
5. Subtitles that tell us where we are.
6. First time seeing a kyber crystal (although I think there might have been one in a deleted scene in the beginning of ROTJ when Luke was building his lightsaber).
7. Planetary shield that you can actually see and understand how it works.
8. Vader in a bacta tank.
9. Hammerhead ship (that was cool!)
10. ALL main characters die (that took some serious balls).
Rebuttal. 1. Chinese box office and it was the Whills. Google it.
2. Wrong. Endor in ROTJ.
3. Han was not perfect. He killed a guy in cold blood in A New Hope.
4. Martial Law in a A New Hope, searching vehicles. Seized Cloud City in Empire.
5. The movie Dune did this. Big deal.
6. Established lore. Who cares. I went into a crystal cave in KOTOR which was better than this movie.
7. Can see it. No idea how it works. Also we saw it in Spaceballs. Why don't you explain that (pseudo) science to us btw.
8. So what. Luke was in one in Empire.
9. Prequels had a ton of new ships. They still sucked.
10. No it didn't. They had to die for continuity. If you did not know they were all going to die going into the movie when Disney told you there would be no sequels I don't know what to tell you. The only question was whether Vader would behead them like Mace Windu did to Boba Fett's dad. Vader failed to deliver.
+1 for Bruce. Also, the bacta tank was yet another tired callback.
1. I'm talking about the movies.
2. touche.
3. Han was not part of the rebellion at that time. In fact he showed quite a bit of distain for it.
4. Meh. Not really.
5. I'm talking about Star Wars movies. I did not intend to imply that his had never been done in ANY movie.
6. It was important to the plot.
7. Explained in detail how it works and why it's important. Watch the movie (again Star Wars -- NOT Spaceballs, which I also loved, btw).
8. Important to the plot. Showed Vader vulnerable.
9. This one actually did something new and interesting.
10. MANY ways of handling that without killing them off (as was mentioned in the review)
Right, but I wasn't talking about the bacta tank itself. We've never seen Vader completely outside of his suit after being burned.
Darius Spearman wow that a clear prooves that you don't see that much movies and shows outside star wars. a blind guy who can see with powers (daredevil, avatar:the legend of aang) subtitles of places (every spy movie) showing how life suck to the bad guys (spiderman, no country for old man) showing that good guys can be assholes (saving private ryan, suicide squad) killing characters (game of thrones, the Walking dead, and it could have being impactfull if any of those character had any develop, and they didn't).
Whenever Rich laughs, an angel gets its new wings.
My heart leaps a little every time.
More like a demon murders a kitten. His laugh is horribly irritating. It is AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIDS!
No it starts crying.
I was about to say.. I can't help laughing or at the very least, smiling when he cracks up.
My Rich laugh comment wasnt going to top this one...
Have I been living under a rock not knowing about these guys? they're hilarious!!😂😂😂
I’ve been watching them for about 6 months now and have no issue watching the same ones over again for the jokes 😂
Mr Plinkett reviews are a definite highlight
yes. Yes you have, you hack fraud ;-)
welcome, and GO BRAVES @@ateam404
I wonder how many nerds this episode of Half in the Bag has infuriated over the years.
between their takes on the Prequels, Sequels and spin-offs; I'd imagine most of us! 😂
@@BizznessBoxWOMP WOMP
@@BizznessBoxrouge one is boring and highly overrated, but it is better than any of the sequel trilogy.
@@seahawkman50 Sequels and prequels.
Rogue One was great, but that's my opinion
kool
Eric Berger your opinion is right
kool
If you add a clause beginning with "because" it can be more than your opinion!
mineralchrist I think you mean, I don't agree with you
Rogue One is the best of the prequels.
It's the darkest of the four.
It's the darkest and best of the four.
Not saying much
No shit.
Rouge gets applied to face.
Delirium Thanks I fixed it.
"We have Thor and he's an ass-gaurd" - Rich Evans
I love hanging out with my friends Mike, Jay, and Rich. We laugh, and talk about movies, tell jokes, it's really fun!
Rich Evans chanting AT-STs is one of my favorite things in the world. I come back to watch that every couple months
I hear him in my head whenever I play a game where you can drive one, mostly Battlefront 2...both old and new
I love his little hop when he shouts about Alderaan.
I as well...
“Are we gonna get CGI Mark Hamil?”
Yes. Yes we did.
Dakota Lustick ugh every single ironic joke that these guys make will end up in one of these garbage fire movies at some point
dampest noodle and their prediction videos are more intresting than all the Disney SW movies
dampest noodle even if it contradicts the other stuff they did.
If we live long enough, we WILL see CGI blue ghost Hamill, Ford, Fisher, Christensen, Yoda, Rey, and of course, Darth Sidious all fucking each other in giant blue orgy. 2022 is my guess.
Twice
13:37.. if only they knew that 6 years later, "Guy McAccent" would be getting his own damn show LOL
And it be the greatest thing Star Wars ever put out
@@darthnephilim 6 episodes in and it didn't grab me. And it's not like I'm missing Vader, lightsabers, TIE fighters (I don't remember if there's any in it, to be honest), etc. But there's nothing interesting in it thus far.
@allluckyseven I'll admit I wasn't super interested to begin with but on rewatch I started to really start noticing all the little bits I missed. Highly suggest giving it another shot.
@@jimberjamber8540Imagine having to watch several episodes of trash multiple times in order to be "interested", spoken like a true consumer.
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon lmfao okay bud.
CGI Mark Hamill was only 2 seasons of Mandalorian away. Good prophetic call, Jay
i dont care what anyone says the cgi rich evans looks pretty good
Well, you know it’s hard for them to get such a major celebrity regularly for their videos, so it’s good that they’ve found a way to insert him into videos with CGI for our amusement.
The fact he can move around somewhat spry really gives it away. Real Rich Evans would have crippling arthritis holding him back from the AT-ST dance.
Wait so... you guys loved The Force Awakens, but you seemed to have hated this? Are you high?
8-Bit Squirrel the characters are better in TFA
Wait... wait wait wait... "Take out all the space battle shit" Are you... what? That was some of the best shit in the movie, and you want them to cut it out? Fucking hell, you guys just don't know how to have fun anymore.
8-Bit Squirrel rogue one just has space battles...and vader...and not much else
8-Bit Squirrel I don't think they loved the force awakens. I recall them saying it was pretty good. and that this was okay.
8-Bit Squirrel I don't think they loved the force awakens. I recall them saying it was pretty good. and that this was okay.
"And [that Marvel hero] has a different personality-"
_"... sure."_
That little reaction had me wheezing with laughter.
Ironically I’ve watched this review more than Rogue One
Basil Oregano is my favorite character
Mace Nutmeg is better
It's gotta be Punda Bubu for me
@@leonardocarvalho7306 for me it's the "You'll Be Dead" guy, I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW HIM :DDDD
He got blowed up on Alderaan!
@Gungey Entertainment *fatherrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I thought this movie had way less fan service than TFA. The only stuff i can think of was the cameo by those thugs from Mos Eisley and our two droid sidekicks. Other than that, though, i cant think of anything. Of course Darth Vader could be considered fan service, but he had every reason to be in this movie. In his first appearance, he was talking to Krennick because there had been several screw-ups lately and Vader was the guy who sorted that stuff out. In the last scene, Vader's Star Destroyer needs to chase after Leia's ship. You know that big opening scene we all love? Vader's ship. Vader is literally in the opening scene to the movie that starts right after this one ends. Why would Vader not be in the last scene.
Ben Moak There were so many references to other Star Wars media and I'm not just talking about the original trilogy. I noticed about ten references if you really know your Star Wars lore.
Yeah sure. Using the historical context of the fucking SW-World is fan service.
Except "The Force Awakens" had its own story, its own characters, its own world, even if the structure and the beats were ripped from elsewhere. It still was its own movie. But even on paper, "Rogue One" is so beholden to "A New Hope" and everything else in the Star Wars mythos that all of the fan service just bogged it down and kept it from being something original.
Don't you know? even having characters vital to the plot show up is considered fan service.
"would you like to know the odds"
"it's a trap!"
among other one-liner references
If only y’all knew how bad it was going to truly get…
"Grand Moff Tarkin looked okay..."
I can't tell which reaction is funnier, Rich's or Mike's to Rich's
I’m so happy than Blam Supplebutt is back for The Mandalorian.
Don’t forget AT-ST’S
I wish they would have been able to get Mablan Morpon back.
AND NOW THE MANDALORIAN HAS ASHOKA LADY AND BOBA FETT AND I CLAPPED BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE
@@okinweginwhable Jay must have been on grindr because the man hole was closed that night and saw your handle.
what happened to John Quinn Blabbo
"Daisy Riddley is charismatic as hell in that movie!" I nearly spat out my drink hearing that, rofl yes mouth permanently gaping open with eyes wide for every single scene with a blank look of utter empty headedness is VERY charismatic xD
The whole movie was proof, not once did she draw me into her as a pleasant character.
I wouldn't say billions, lets try millions and secondly the the vast majority aren't the greatest people to judge something by since they often don't know what is good rather what makes them happy.
I 100% agree - when they said that I almost puked, I thought she was shite.
Typical woman haters. Daisy did a good performance and was a very charming and interesting character. I guess moronic star wars fans can hold on to their opinion that Daisy is a n"empty headed mary sue" but its just simply not true. She was good.
yup I suppose you can't criticize a woman without being a sexist... good point Charlie, from now on I will stick to criticizing men only. That seems fairer and less sexist, well done. Your argument for her good performance is equally impressive - I can't find a hole in it.
LMAO. "It broke new ground!". Five years later and still hilarious!
I think about the opening to this so often, never fails to make me die laughing. “I clapped!!! I clapped when I saw it!!!!”
2019. This episode is aging surprisingly well.
whatchu mean homie
@@matchesburn Jay typically has the coldest and least interesting takes, so praising Daisy Ridley is in character for him.
I think if this review were done today, he would be with the program.
Yea, the praise of Daisy Ridley's Character, with Jay going so far as to call the Character "Charismatic as Hell" is getting cringier with time, (post TLJ).. In My Opinion, I imagine he'd like to have that one back, Along with stating that CGI Tarkin looked good... haha
I keep going back to watch the first half of it. It’s so funny
@@shawnseal1762 TLJ should not alter the perceived quality of daisy Ridley's acting performance in TFA. People are waaaay too caught up in the "Mary Sue Mary Sue" thing. And IMO unfairly judge her performance. (Let's not forget that even the original star wars trilogy was plagued by some awkward deliveries. )
The characters have backstories.
Available in Disney's™ Star™ Wars™ Catalyst™ A™ Rogue™ One™ Novel™.
It's a 5 part series. Only 29,99$ per book. :D
Dakka not everyone is gonna read the book. I enjoyed rogue one but their was very little character to the charters! That's the major downfall with this movie! I cared about the Asian dudes and K2 cuz they had the most character to them.
You shouldn’t have to read novels to get back stories to main characters or important information. I love the legends EU and Star Wars. But the biggest disappointment ever is how amazing the novels surrounding the prequel era stuff retroactively makes the prequels actually decent. But if you view just the locked it’s incoherent and that is not okay.
@@zbrown02 Just look at the amount of TM symbols after every word...that means it's a joke about Disney, profit hounding.
“Will it though? Look at the Marvel movies?”
Revisiting this in 2023, I wish I could go back in time to burst through the door and say, “hi I’m from the future and boy do I have some news for you”
22:15 - They predicted 30 years. And we've gotten CGI Mark Hamill just like 5 years after Rogue One. And to think they were cynical.
Time is speeding up
She's not technically actually in this movie..but lets give a moment to send our love to Carrie fisher's today. She had a big ass heart attack. (UPDATE) Carrie Fisher, child of Hollywood who blazed a path as StarWars heroine, screenwriter and author, dies at 60 12/27/2016 - She will be missed.
Don't be a smart ass (heart)
It didn't work. :( Very sad day.
Mike Mc Carrie Cokehead
+Dl DD and?
+DrTheKay Woah...Look at the Emo Rage with you! I could care less about up votes dingle berry butthole muncher :) I honestly wrote that when I heard about her heart attack. Being a fan of star wars and of Carrie I wanted to post something about it. Why does that make you mad? I was not attacking anyone. This is a great example of how the haters have taken over in here tho. My post was not directed at you in any ways, it was a way to wish someone well. I'd hate to be in your family. I can see you around the table calling each other names and throwing knives. You are just a horrible person!
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!!!!
21:40 - is one of the best laughs I've ever gotten from an RLM video.
25:44 They were just goofing around with the beef cuts analogies, but then Rich did so well with it that Mike wanted to hear more lol
Rich Evan's laugh is a national treasure.
Rich Evens is a treasure of whole humankind!
Someone send it to the library of Congress. Put it in the Smithsonian. It's solid gold
Legend has it the imperial alarm is just Rich Evans laugh repeated
Randomly rewatched this video and I laughed out loud when he asked “what’s next? CGI Luke Skywalker?” 😂
RLM's Disney Star Wars reviews are some of my favorite movie reviews ever. Period.
same, i'm on a binge
Here is my ultimate problem with this review: RLM could have applied every criticism made about Rogue One to Force Awakens yet they never did. And the funny part is that I thought Rogue One told a more compelling story.
They compared this to Force Awakens. They said that it got away with pandering and being different/ less memorable by being funny and uplifting.
Ryan Whitaker I didn't see what they were saying, if anything Force Awakens left me scratching my head about some of the characters.
Ramon Suarez I think Force Awakens was way better as far as characters go. I actually remember all of their names.
Well, they did cram less characters.
Ramon Suarez I think that's definitely part of it. Fewer new characters means they all get more screen-time. The exception is Po. I think they dropped the ball with him a bit. We didn't see much of him at all. Overall, I think since the characters in Rogue One didn't get much of our attention, several of them just seem like gimmicks to me.
I mean. You had a main character that was a cold-blooded murdering terrorist. That's a pretty big risk. You didn't have clean cut characters, you had an ensemble cast of characters that seemed more like people than archetypal heroes.
They did some subtle world building. Jedha is a genuinely interesting concept. A Jedi Holy City where they harvested kyber crystals? That's pretty damn cool.
This film does a good job of showing the dirty side of the Rebellion, the harshness of the Empire, and even brought some of the mysticism back to the Force. The space battles were fun and inventive, something I missed in TFA...
I don't know, I thought this was a good movie. It gave me more faith in Disney than TFA. And that's coming from a dirty Force Awakens apologist.
hentropy People all hated Empire when it originally came out for being different and darker. It'll be interesting to see how people view Rogue One in a few years
Profane Historian
Damn true.
You make an excellent point, especially since Force Awakens was received much more positively in its early days than it was after a few months had passed.
I agree with your points, the world setting was perfect I just wish they had fleshed out the characters and beefed up the score and I would've been on cloud nine. I can see both arguments on the Movie and can understand why people will like or dislike it. Missed opportunity but very nearly executed.
A big risk? They could've shit into a bag and wrote "Star Wars" on it and made millions.
"Do you remember things that were in Star Wars? Me too!" Still gets me.
I CLAPPED BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT!
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!!
You have altered my sense of humor redlettermedia. Thank you
Cried from laughing at that opening. I love you guys so much.
"It broke new ground!!!"
It was funny but I don't agree with them. it's not often I disagree with Mike n Jay, but this is one. I bought the drama totally.
Brock Baker DEATH STAR!!!!
I thought it was overly negative and ridiculous. It's a Star Wars film, what the hell did you expect? It's almost like no matter what they showed they wouldn't have enjoyed the movie. Even Mike said, "So what?" about the movies premise.. Ok? Then don't watch the film.
eluxsus0195684 Well, Mike liked TFA. So they don't hate every new entry, it's just what they said: There couldve been a lot more story or at least some clever twists. They even suggested a few things, like James Bond in space. I totally get what they mean.
The problem I have is that you cant complain about them reusing assets from other films. The logic behind the AT-ATs is flawed. They didn't put them in Rogue One because they were badass. The empire has a finite amount of weapons and vehicles they can deploy. Its an all terrain armored transport. All terrain. Does anyone really think the empire wouldn't logically have a ton of them stationed on a world containing all their secrets. Why are there TIE fighters? Not to appeal to fans. TIE fighters are mass produced and cheap. Whats more offensive is them still being used in TFA. What I find more surprising was there only being 2 star destroyers at Scarif. That shows overconfidence. The criticism I see of this film always looks both too deeply and too shallowly. Its not perfect. My biggest complaint about the film is the cards used to name planets. It felt like guardians of the galaxy in a really knock off way. Couldn't Jyn have just as easily been imprisoned on Jedha instead of being on one planet then moved to another? Those are problems because it doesn't show anything and bloats the movie with an increased budget and runtime which they could've filled with something more developmental. Playing this movie safe would've been keeping the characters alive to use in Rogue two in between Empire and Jedi. The only real fan service I can directly think of was Vader's massacre and cameos from assface and assface's friend. Neither of those needed to be in the film at all and were solely done for the fans. Was the movie better with Vader's massacre? You bet your goddamn ass it was better. Real criticism would be calling out the lack of character development on characters like Baze and Cassian. Baze did not really have a character arc whatsoever and Cassian was an unlikable generic soldier. Fake, view-bait criticism is crying that the WAR film set during the rebellion is too derivative of vehicles, commanders, and weapons from that same era. That criticism is ok in the case of TFA because it takes place THIRTY years later, having the same soldiers and ships and weapons is lazy and too close to the chest. Its become popular opinion now that bashing star wars is ok if its similar to other movies in the series just because TFA did it. TFA was lazy, it was not bad. At this point there is literally nothing they can do that will please these "not good enough" "fans". If they took out the space battle and had a larger land battle with more troops there would be complaints of "too many stormtroopers". If they went the other way and had no land battle and a space battle "too many ships". If they took both out and turned Chirrut into a jedi "why is there a jedi in rogue one? This is supposed to be different". What exactly do you want? There is nothing that can actually be done to please you. Its that simple.
They were AT-ACT's, a different vehicle, with lighter armor, meant for moving cargo.
How can you pull information from another film, complain that it doesn't match up and then when you're told otherwise, imply that the new information wasn't in the film so it doesn't count? A bit unreasonable don't you think?
Just because they look the same to *you* doesn't mean they look the same to observant people. The Rogue One Walkers are clearly hollow cargo haulers. The AT-ACT toy has been out for weeks. But even if you just go by the two movies they are clearly different vehicles.
Right, but again, these are *not* AT-ATs, they are AT-ACTs. They are not war-machines, but Cargo carriers. Plus they are being attacked X-Wings and not the much smaller speeders, plus this is set three or four years before Empire Strikes Back, there are so many reasons why these things blow up easier. Who knows why the filmmakers wanted a different kind of vehicle. In the end, it is probably just a ploy to sell toys. Shrug.
It all makes sense, when you use the EU logic, and estimate that lucas actually had a plan for all of it (what he hadn't)
it won't help to talk any sense into it later :)
It's funny when Jay offhandedly says the movie will make a billion dollars because it made almost _exactly_ a billion dollars.
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... I just got the "Mon Mothma's Back" joke.
I love that part
I don't get it.
Sean Shamblin it's a double entendre. It's showing her back but they're also saying that she's back in a star wars movie
Stay sharp kid
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"I clapped when Darth Vader turned on his red lightsaber!"
"Holy shit there was a red lightsaber and he used the force!"
"OHHH MY GOOOOODDDDDDDD!"
I fucking hate cheering nerds
Nick I would have shit my pants, if i was one of those soldiers.
~ 20 seconds of good movie in Rogue One: Vader force pushes a rebel into the ceiling, leaves him there, deflects a few bolts into some other rebels, THEN SLICES THE GUY ON THE CEILING, *THEN LET'S HIM FALL* LMAO
I clapped I clapped when I saw it
Those death toopers must be sweaty as Hell having to hike half mile from their landing point to their actual destination every mission for dramatic effect
In 2023 people are saying this is "the best new Star Wars" and I feel like we didn't watch the same movie.
I sometimes look up the action scenes. But the movie is incredibly boring.
you can say all this about the force awakens
Noe Camarena exactly
force awaken is not perfect, but the characters have actual charisma
Noe Camarena It makes sense for Force Awakens to have fanservice in order to bring people back in from the disaster that was the prequels. But the fanservice was nowhere near as distracting and unnecassary as it is in rogue one. Force Awakens actually had interesting characters, rogue relied on fanservice and fanservice alone. Instead of giving us characters to care about, they gave us references and call backs that did nothing to help the story. Rogue one felt like it was made by the member berries.
The first hour wasn't boring at all lmao. The real issue with TFA was the strong plot tie with ANH. Yet the acting, writing, and plot is better than Rogue one.
The first hour is insanely boring. Nothing happens until they get to scariff, but by that time I didn't even care because the characters are so poorly written. The first half is boring because the character are uninteresting and the dialogue is also uninteresting, it's all, "we have to go here and do this thing", they then do that thing, then repeat. If the characters are boring, the story and the conversations will be boring as well. So yes, the first hour is in fact boring.
Rich doing the AT ST dance makes me so god damn happy.
Honestly when someone mentions star wars thats the first thing that plays in my head.
@@ztunelover it's imprinted on me like my mother's face
Please don't troll me but I don't get it the AT ST thing
@@khaleesidelrey8215 i assume you haven't seen the original trilogy.
@@ztunelover I have do I need to rewatch?
Whenever I'm feeling down, i come back to this video.
0:48 Jay's muppet movement gets me every time and the whole video, of course.
It's funny because I thought Rogue One was infinitely better than Force Awakens.
The Force Awakens had better characters
It's like different people have different opinions.
Raz I'd say they were about the same. The only difference is Force Awakens has the benefit of 3 films to build them up.
TheLonelyGoomba TFA was a shit show
TFA had slightly better characters than rogue one
Rogue one had a much better plot than TFA
I hope ep 8 can bring in the best of those two
Rich seemed like he liked the movie but didn't want to say it out loud. I think it was better than TFA and I really like TFA, the characters while shallow were not just carbon copies of old Star Wars characters and the story improved the experience one will have rewatching the New Hope. Also AT-ATs, AT-STs, stormtroopers, Vader and other characters are not fan service. They are part of the universe and that's why people like seeing them - it's like bitching about the Enterprise, transporters and Klingons in a Star Trek film.
Yep.
Did you guys also notice that Jay laughs at EVERY fucking thing that Mike says? even if its not funny at all?
Not just in this video I mean in general.
And yes, Rich appeared very shy in this video like he was scared to disagree. They have such a bizarre relationship.
I hope you're joking because Jay disagrees with Mike all the time LOL
I feel like you guys are reading into things that aren't really there.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
The fuck is this PC Chair psychology bullshit, they did not like the film, Movie reviewer's don't run in wolf packs with dominant males leading the charge....be objective please...
The opening for this is a goddamn masterpiece.
Everytime Mike cracks, it's like seeing a unicorn: 21:40