It's a good plane and it has sped up my grind... because a lot of people who bought it have zero situational awareness and you can sometimes just go around the map and kill them with AIM-9Bs lol. When piloted by a competent player, it's a beast.
@@casualchad627 that's the opposite of the su25. It's brain dead easy to use the r60mk against stuff that can Bearley doge the missles don't have countermeasures and are too slow to avoid it/missles. And after it fires the missles it's completely useless and easy to kill
"For its strenghts it has its weaknesses for wich there are many" The many weaknesses: -no radar (like half of the planes it goes against) -far too efficent engine that can wingrip you while carrying an entire nuclear plant amount of weight -mediocre amount of bullets -low fuel as minimum(like you cant select more fuel...) Its strenghts: -incredible manouverability -high speed for a subsonic plane -ordanance ranging from a new years cracker to nukes -the ability to whoop ground and air targets at the same time with relative ease -missiles that are technically surefire kills -airframe and body wich makes it the mouse of the air Bruh...
Only problem with this plane I’ve experienced so far is that A N Y damage to a wing is extremely likely to send you into a spin and decimate your agility if you are able to recover.
yeah this guy is talking trash. In fact the Su25 has a broken damage models were sometimes it simply doesnt take damage even from a direct hit. @@patriktoth3346
It's probably the best premium in the game right now, if you are wanting something with lots of fun and variety. So many different weapons, that you can try something new quite often.
@@locomoco967 A-10. At least for me. Lots of fun. Can take it out as a fighter if you really wanted, the missiles are good and turns well. But the wide variety of weapons for ground targets make it really fun.
IDK what it is, but when the patch released suddenly the A-10 felt alot smoother to fly. For a while it was a brick but now i really enjoy it again... If i finally manage to sell my Leo AV ill probs pick it up
This is the most fun I’ve had playing air battles. It’s also the only current available 9.7 premium to grind rank I-VII. When it’s uptiered it’s not bad, and when it’s downtiered, it’s unfair. There were two of us against A-4E’s and several prop planes.
@@ItzChickenYall I'm not too sure tbh maybe Christmas/ new years time of year?? I'm pretty sure if you google it, there is a chart that shows when they typically have their discounts all throughout the year
@@ItzChickenYall i cant say because i have not unlocked or purchased the a10 but they're both very similar planes with similar playstyles I think (im not a pro in this game just a casual) so i would just buy the one that's in the tech tree you want to level up. So if your end goal is American jets, buy the a10, if its soviet jets buy the su25.
I was Lucky* enough to get a Bt-7A from the cocktail boxes so i had a 40$ discount Making it way more resoneble of a price And i love it The 25-O penguin Rockets are amazing
I don’t play at high BRs (highest is 4.7 USSR ground and 2.3 USSR air), but in the test drive, I found the S-25O to be my preferred anti-ground weapon of choice. Thanks to CCIP and the massive warhead, you can easily hit targets from very far away, even as relatively unskilled jet player as myself. The cannons are a neat thing as well. Although it has relatively low penetration (42mm for APHE, 56mm for AP-T), especially compared to A-10, the APHE rounds will easily kill anything it penetrates making it excellent against light vehicles.
I like how having FOUR gunpods doesn't make the nose drop at all whatsoever... In any other aircraft carrying just two your nose drops by 5-10 degrees on the initial trigger pull.. No wonder this thing obliterates enemies...
Wont happen. The A-10A has mavericks, all aspect missiles and is still 9.7. Ground attacks planes are mostly adjusted based on ordnance, not performance.
A10 is 10.0 and this does everything the A10 does while performing better in airRB, which is where it's gonna get its cracked stats. We know gaijin only listens to stats.
I love it! Add gun pods, rockets and your unstoppable, just make sure to flare quite a few times if a missile is on you and dont get hit as a damaged wing will often send you to your early grave. Hope this helps :)
It's ok in Air Arcade and Air Realistic. In GRB it's let down by the fact it isn't correct or fully capable and in Air Sim it's massively gimped. Lets get this straight. The Su-25 and Su-25K both lack multi function displays and IRL cannot launch true fire and forget (independently targetable) missiles with any precision as there is no way for the pilot to see what the missile TV seeker sees. This jet was designed to work entirely with a JTAC or Forward Air Controller who will lase the target. The pilot would be directed on a course to get a clean Line Of Sight so the missile can see the illumination of the laser, pilot gets a signal the missile sees the target and fires the missile and breaks away for cover. As far as the jet is concerned, the laser guided Kh-25 and Kh-29 are truly fire and forget when guided by someone on the ground with a laser. Yes yes A-10A would do this too and yes it was done but the A-10 had an MFD and the pilot can independently locate and engage targets from a safe standoff distance with no JTAC or FAC in the field . Something the basic Su-25 cannot do. If the jet view options were modeled realistically, there would be no "missile view" in Air Sim, the best you could hope for would be pointing your crosshairs at the muzzle flash of a tank inthe distance, gyro caging the sight on that flash, lighting the laser up and firing more or less blind and hoping to hit something all while charging straight into the line of fire of a group of very angry SPAA. In this sense, the Su-25/K do not belong in this game at all. Gaijin screwed up, failed to plan and I will never change my mind about this. The Su-25T and Su-39 should occupy the slots and BR of the Basic and K models.. The 25T and 39 jets do have a multi funtion display and the ability to locate and engage targets with effective magnified optics and should be the starting point for comperable jets to the A-10A. These jets are still limited to lasing a single target at a time, still limited to non-thermal imaging sights and limited in engagement range but they're closer in parity to the A-10A for GRB and Air Sim. The Su-25SM3 is very powerful in GRB due to the extended range of the Kh-38MT and the thermal sight this jet brings to the battle. I believe the A-10C with 4 AGM-65K will be the match to the SM3 in GRB and Air Sim when added. If all you do is play Air Arcade or Air Realistic then the Su-25K is sufficient. If you play GRB you might find yourself with limited standoff capability and if you play any form of Sim, you will be stomped regularly.
The damage model on that plane is still broken. I honestly doubt they will fix it at this point. You can hit it with a direct missile hit and it does no damage.
this video randomly showed up in my recommendeds and i didn't notice the "[War " at the end of the title had to double take thinking someone was market reviewing a Su-25
Could you make a jet noob friendly guide to setups for jets?and how to effectively use them as a beginner. Specifically for the su-25 - I’ve been considering a purchase into the upper tiers. I’m a long time casual player that recently got into it heavy, and peaked so far in research at early jets in Germany. But I want to branch out. All the different load outs confuse me, and I’m not sure what I should use to make my experience a good one.
this thing really overpeforms in turns and looses no speed while dogfighting . love too see gijin managing to make a heavy ground attack aircraft fly better than most aircraft at the tier .
I haven't flew mine yet (still farming on unexperienced players who jumped on it, in air RB), but if it goes to 10.0 its probably going to be just another top premium that is no more than a hangar decoration for me! Unless a huge BR decompression comes that saves 10.0 - 10.3 (and outdated ex top) jets from being the free kills to the top end fighters. ALSO important question: what the fuck happened with the SNEB rockets on the EC-665 helis? Why those are useless HE now? They did not even mentioned in the change-log. Seriously i could not kill a M3A3 Bradley with it, and against open vehicles it actually has to land INSIDE the crew compartment to kill them! The Premium Tiger HAP is (with its also nerfed 30mm gun) is technically useless on 10.0, even preforms poorly in heli PvE!
I'd argue that the closest thing to an Su-25 is the A-7. The Su-25 doesn't have a massive gun, just the Gsh-30. Its still powerful, but Isnt special like the GAU-8.
Subbed! Great video man I've been on the fence when it comes to the Su 25K but after doing quite a bit of research and watching your video I'm definitely going to be picking it up eventually. I am still a bit hesitant with the hefty price tag tho. hoping it goes on sale sometime!
I honestly dont understand how so many people say it can take a massive amounts of damage. I get hit once and im just dead, so many times unsteerable, or just straight up insta death.
Wouldn't the A-7 be the US analog to the Su? iirc the A-10 is used more as a overkill COIN aircraft with the mixed capability to work as a strike aircraft if needed
80% win rate!? I researched this thing yesterday and almost spaded it today and I have a 30% winrate. This afternoon I lost 15 games in a row in air rb while getting 1-2 kills a game the teams are full of lvl 10 in these and other attackers.
i wish gaijin allowed refunds at the first days of use... i got it for ground rb and tbh its dissapointing, and the laser guidance camera makes it harder to spot vehicles compared to 3rd person veiw (cause it zooms less) the r60s are the only good thing about it, it is more survivable than the a10 tho but i never survive AA missiles compared to what i see on youtube
@@tsilfidis1996 at 11.0 it gets 4 r60ms and 2 r60’s without a ground strike load, with the same ground strike camera. Now the frogfoot is at 9.7 so it doesn’t have to fight 11.0 AA or tomcats or mirage 2ks, the only thing the su22 does better is that it’s faster and has 2 more decent missiles for a almost 1.3 br increase maybe just don’t buy premiums without the skill because 11.0 r60ms at 9.7 are just fucking broke. Most 8.7-9.3 planes don’t even have flares.
I bought this and got a ace in it it after a few games. I'm good at the a10 so if you can play that well you can play this too. If you suck at the a10 don't get this.
It's only weeknesses is that it has no after burns but it can still go mach jesus, has really resistant flaps that you can release until +800 km/h it's AAM are agile like that one 15 old crush in the gym flying at mach Jesus.
Again gaijin need to put seperate BR for GRB and ARB. At ARB yes the su-25 is phenomenal for a CAS with R60M but at GRB its less capable than A10 with 6Mav cause the optimal range of SU-25 is like 2.5km away even with the laser guided munition
For my birthday, I was thinking of paying $59.99 instead of having my mother pay for it, as I have the money, It's going to be my birthdate day (which means I can just do what I want), and I will be careful with what I do. In short, just paying spare money I earned, that I can spare.
I might get it if it goes on sale at that time i will probably also aquire the turms sounds like a nice birthday present for myself next year For now ill stick to fucking about in the test drive
The Su-25K is easily the best plane I've ever flown. I have a 2.5 K/D with it after nearly 300 matches. It won't be that way for everyone, but this is my best plane in game - bar none.
I have never been so bored flying a plane like this i dont understand why ppl say its a good plane i would say its a little to slow Just cuz of my expierence of my 10 games before i got to a base i was shot Down by everything
People say its good because of the missiles at 9.7. bombing bases is never the way to go with the su25. You are just really slow and a huge target priority. If you really want to bomb bases use su7bmk but if you insist on using the frogfoot for that then set the keybind for flares/chaff and get ready to look all 360 degrees every few seconds.
Yet another reason I absolutely hate Gaijin's obsession with selling popular vehicles like this. If it's flown by a casual or new player who just wants an overpowered grinder, they'll absolutely suck in it, but they can still shit on tech tree subsonic gunfighters with no missiles or countermeasures, with fucking all-aspect dogfight missiles. If flown by competent players, it will absolutely dominate battles because it's essentially two free kills plus good enough dogfight performance to club planes below its BR. I've already seen both sides of this spam, and it has once again ruined a BR bracket. 10.3 planes are being spammed to counter them, so up-tiers are all but guaranteed. Anyone caught in the middle is going to have an awful time.
Its not THAT good, people are just brain dead. Mig zips by with 3 enemies on his tail and they dont even look at me as i swing the nose around and pop both R60s at their tails
It is now 10.3 in Sim and double the price. I just purchased it in the pack sale at 50 percent off. fifty percent off equals what you paid for a few months ago. Greedy much Gaijin?
If ur on about the what I think a vid in the war in Ukraine thats because Russia and Ukraine have a shortage of spare parts...any aircraft will crash if its not maintained properly
It's a pretty terrible plane. Any plane can be good with a good piliot but that doesn't change the fact that the plane is bad. At it's BR it's way slower than anyone else in the lobby and is easy picking for f-5c that are 400 km faster than you. For bombing it can carry an alright load but is too slow so other bombers get their firrst and you're just waiting for the bases to reset.
For CAS, the AGM-65s on the A-10 are better than what the Frogfoot has for sure, but, otherwise, It's a toss up. For air battles, I strongly prefer the Frogfoot due to the substantially better energy/speed that it has, along with its better ability to carry the additional cannons. Attaching to additional cannons to the A-10 kills its already awful speed, whereas the Frogfoot has surprisingly good speed/maneuverability with the four 23mm cannons attached.
@@Tankenstein however you can’t forget EVERYTHING suspended is ejectable now with a keybind including empty rocket pods and cannons. The A-10 is perfect CAS and yes it’s anti air role is a bit more limited. The Frogfoot is a bit more capable due to its power and speed against air but it’s heavy use of dumb weapons, rockets, and laser guided makes it an even easier target than the A-10 to top tier SPAA. The A-10 can sit at a very high alt and let the mavericks glide in from very high and you can push probably 8km at max alt with the A-10
@@sidtasker2937 Gaijin didn’t model the A-10 properly AT ALL it bursts into flames unrealistically easy and falls apart when it simply doesn’t do that IRL, meanwhile the SU-25 in game for me has BEEN HIT AND SHRUGGED OFF MULTIPLE SAMs in Ground RB while I flew it. Both aircraft should be about that tanky.
This plane is insane, out turns anything with air breaks and flaps, insta spin on them if you as long as you watch your six and pop flares 24/7 your good lol. Oh a guy overshot you cause you threw the breaks on? Bye bye
This plane really isn't as good as y'all are making it out to be..... Its hella overrated and aa food just like the A10. At least the warthog has a chance with Mavericks tho.
There is no way they would make it 10.0 it should've stayed at 9.3 cause it gets dunked on by F5C kids, Or the Frenchies. If they up the BR I better see the poopy A10 at 10.0 right along it.
the a10 has worst missile and the a10 is slower while the f5c f5e is one of the best aircraft in the game for dogfighting so no shit you get shit on by it in your shitfoot 25
Nah man put at 8.7 so it can kill any fun jet br left in the game. And how about u understand u cant/shouldn't be able to beat air superiority fighter in a attacker
@@ISt0leYaCheese kid.. everyone knows you shouldn't, But to bump it to 10.0 is useless cause then you just see more top tier and like... 11.3 would smash cas jets . End of story, So honestly the only issue is GAYJIN's br issues where you get thrown into 10.7 cause it's a 9.7 makes 0 sense on how that works.. but hey it's GAYJIN.
It's a good plane and it has sped up my grind... because a lot of people who bought it have zero situational awareness and you can sometimes just go around the map and kill them with AIM-9Bs lol. When piloted by a competent player, it's a beast.
I absolutely love it!
That’s exactly the way a plane should be. Not overpowered for noobs, and able to destroy when in competent hands
@@casualchad627 like most 9.0-9.3 planes.
I get like 4 to 7 air kills with my aa. I love it.
@@casualchad627 that's the opposite of the su25. It's brain dead easy to use the r60mk against stuff that can Bearley doge the missles don't have countermeasures and are too slow to avoid it/missles. And after it fires the missles it's completely useless and easy to kill
"For its strenghts it has its weaknesses for wich there are many"
The many weaknesses:
-no radar (like half of the planes it goes against)
-far too efficent engine that can wingrip you while carrying an entire nuclear plant amount of weight
-mediocre amount of bullets
-low fuel as minimum(like you cant select more fuel...)
Its strenghts:
-incredible manouverability
-high speed for a subsonic plane
-ordanance ranging from a new years cracker to nukes
-the ability to whoop ground and air targets at the same time with relative ease
-missiles that are technically surefire kills
-airframe and body wich makes it the mouse of the air
Bruh...
Only problem with this plane I’ve experienced so far is that A N Y damage to a wing is extremely likely to send you into a spin and decimate your agility if you are able to recover.
8 months later... This shit can ate 2 Fim-92K and acts like nothing happened 😂
yeah this guy is talking trash. In fact the Su25 has a broken damage models were sometimes it simply doesnt take damage even from a direct hit. @@patriktoth3346
@@patriktoth3346Russia bias 😂😂
The most versatile plane in the game. Great for grinding and playing a significant role in all RB's.
It's probably the best premium in the game right now, if you are wanting something with lots of fun and variety. So many different weapons, that you can try something new quite often.
Yo man should i get this, A10 or the F5-C?
@@locomoco967 A-10. At least for me. Lots of fun. Can take it out as a fighter if you really wanted, the missiles are good and turns well. But the wide variety of weapons for ground targets make it really fun.
Honestly greatest premium I’ve ever bought. Best grinds I’ve EVER had.
IDK what it is, but when the patch released suddenly the A-10 felt alot smoother to fly. For a while it was a brick but now i really enjoy it again... If i finally manage to sell my Leo AV ill probs pick it up
This is the most fun I’ve had playing air battles. It’s also the only current available 9.7 premium to grind rank I-VII. When it’s uptiered it’s not bad, and when it’s downtiered, it’s unfair. There were two of us against A-4E’s and several prop planes.
"and at the end of the review I'm going to give the frogfoot a DOUG score"
I got the pre order,the shark skin is so good I have no regrets
The shark is so damned cute lol
just picked this up for 50% off and love it. Even though its not a dog fighter, i absolutely shred with the quad cannon/A2A x2 combo
When do u think is the next 50% discount?
@@ItzChickenYall I'm not too sure tbh maybe Christmas/ new years time of year?? I'm pretty sure if you google it, there is a chart that shows when they typically have their discounts all throughout the year
@@MoonPump Alright. I’m not struggling to decide whether I should get the SU25 or A10. What do you think (as an owner of a SU25)?
@@ItzChickenYall i cant say because i have not unlocked or purchased the a10 but they're both very similar planes with similar playstyles I think (im not a pro in this game just a casual) so i would just buy the one that's in the tech tree you want to level up. So if your end goal is American jets, buy the a10, if its soviet jets buy the su25.
@@ItzChickenYallanniversary sale this month or start of november
Probably the best "first premium" purchase candidate. A ton of utility, workable against both airplanes and ground targets, makes lucrative money.
I was Lucky* enough to get a Bt-7A from the cocktail boxes so i had a 40$ discount
Making it way more resoneble of a price
And i love it
The 25-O penguin Rockets are amazing
I'm so fucking sorry for doing this, but "lucky"
@@mrcatplaysgamz7209 FUCKING AUTOCORRECT
To pierdolone gówno zawsze coś przekręci
I don’t play at high BRs (highest is 4.7 USSR ground and 2.3 USSR air), but in the test drive, I found the S-25O to be my preferred anti-ground weapon of choice. Thanks to CCIP and the massive warhead, you can easily hit targets from very far away, even as relatively unskilled jet player as myself. The cannons are a neat thing as well. Although it has relatively low penetration (42mm for APHE, 56mm for AP-T), especially compared to A-10, the APHE rounds will easily kill anything it penetrates making it excellent against light vehicles.
I know why it wont go up to 10.0 they want it to sell as a good combo with the T-72 premium pack at 9.7.
Yea probably
This didnt age well
@@WobblyPage955well both got upteired
I like how having FOUR gunpods doesn't make the nose drop at all whatsoever... In any other aircraft carrying just two your nose drops by 5-10 degrees on the initial trigger pull.. No wonder this thing obliterates enemies...
I love this jet so much. Take out a base, kill 2-3 players, then kill like 10 ground units on the way home.
cant wait til this goes up to 10.0 and becomes food for the new GR.7
Wont happen. The A-10A has mavericks, all aspect missiles and is still 9.7. Ground attacks planes are mostly adjusted based on ordnance, not performance.
Why is the TT A-10 10.0 then?
@@kolbevilla cause 2 more air to air missiles and night combat capability with IR maver8cks
A10 is 10.0 and this does everything the A10 does while performing better in airRB, which is where it's gonna get its cracked stats. We know gaijin only listens to stats.
Well, GR.7 is 11.7 now, so not much of a threat I would say even though SU 25K got uptiered to 10.0
I love it! Add gun pods, rockets and your unstoppable, just make sure to flare quite a few times if a missile is on you and dont get hit as a damaged wing will often send you to your early grave. Hope this helps :)
Good thing I grinded out the Il-28s two years ago after I bought Be-6. I knew something WILL come.
I bought it early yesterday morning and got 200k RP in it before the hotfix to change it to 9.7😂
And when I started playing it was already 9.7. I thought it was 9.3. Big difference as you get dragged to 10.3 every game.
@@valrond and at 10.3 they love shooting all those pesky missiles right after my Jaguar A's flares, wish I got points for decoying missiles
It's ok in Air Arcade and Air Realistic. In GRB it's let down by the fact it isn't correct or fully capable and in Air Sim it's massively gimped.
Lets get this straight. The Su-25 and Su-25K both lack multi function displays and IRL cannot launch true fire and forget (independently targetable) missiles with any precision as there is no way for the pilot to see what the missile TV seeker sees.
This jet was designed to work entirely with a JTAC or Forward Air Controller who will lase the target. The pilot would be directed on a course to get a clean Line Of Sight so the missile can see the illumination of the laser, pilot gets a signal the missile sees the target and fires the missile and breaks away for cover. As far as the jet is concerned, the laser guided Kh-25 and Kh-29 are truly fire and forget when guided by someone on the ground with a laser.
Yes yes A-10A would do this too and yes it was done but the A-10 had an MFD and the pilot can independently locate and engage targets from a safe standoff distance with no JTAC or FAC in the field . Something the basic Su-25 cannot do.
If the jet view options were modeled realistically, there would be no "missile view" in Air Sim, the best you could hope for would be pointing your crosshairs at the muzzle flash of a tank inthe distance, gyro caging the sight on that flash, lighting the laser up and firing more or less blind and hoping to hit something all while charging straight into the line of fire of a group of very angry SPAA. In this sense, the Su-25/K do not belong in this game at all. Gaijin screwed up, failed to plan and I will never change my mind about this.
The Su-25T and Su-39 should occupy the slots and BR of the Basic and K models.. The 25T and 39 jets do have a multi funtion display and the ability to locate and engage targets with effective magnified optics and should be the starting point for comperable jets to the A-10A. These jets are still limited to lasing a single target at a time, still limited to non-thermal imaging sights and limited in engagement range but they're closer in parity to the A-10A for GRB and Air Sim.
The Su-25SM3 is very powerful in GRB due to the extended range of the Kh-38MT and the thermal sight this jet brings to the battle. I believe the A-10C with 4 AGM-65K will be the match to the SM3 in GRB and Air Sim when added.
If all you do is play Air Arcade or Air Realistic then the Su-25K is sufficient. If you play GRB you might find yourself with limited standoff capability and if you play any form of Sim, you will be stomped regularly.
F-4C phantom is just sad that the a-10 and su-25k are it’s enemy’s 1:05
The damage model on that plane is still broken. I honestly doubt they will fix it at this point. You can hit it with a direct missile hit and it does no damage.
2:47 what a play
Also, the guided munitions camera is bugged when using a flight stick. just fyi.
I don’t use the camera the third person zoom is better and I can also use my guided missle
@@black_karlo6271 In Sim you really do need the camera which is why it's such a big deal that it's bugged😂
As far as the r60s go I can’t seem to kill much with them. Every time it just doesn’t connect even though they don’t flare
this video randomly showed up in my recommendeds and i didn't notice the "[War " at the end of the title
had to double take thinking someone was market reviewing a Su-25
Could you make a jet noob friendly guide to setups for jets?and how to effectively use them as a beginner. Specifically for the su-25 - I’ve been considering a purchase into the upper tiers. I’m a long time casual player that recently got into it heavy, and peaked so far in research at early jets in Germany. But I want to branch out.
All the different load outs confuse me, and I’m not sure what I should use to make my experience a good one.
trial and error
@@zz_030 yup
I find it struggles in ground rb due to lack of good smart munitions to counter aa but if used well u can make it work
this thing really overpeforms in turns and looses no speed while dogfighting . love too see gijin managing to make a heavy ground attack aircraft fly better than most aircraft at the tier .
Tbf real su25 pilots always say that this plane is a joy to fly and is surprisingly agile for it’s size
it’s worth it, i made 700k research in 6 hours of constant playing
6 hours of straight play? You rookie lol jk
I haven't flew mine yet (still farming on unexperienced players who jumped on it, in air RB), but if it goes to 10.0 its probably going to be just another top premium that is no more than a hangar decoration for me! Unless a huge BR decompression comes that saves 10.0 - 10.3 (and outdated ex top) jets from being the free kills to the top end fighters.
ALSO important question: what the fuck happened with the SNEB rockets on the EC-665 helis? Why those are useless HE now? They did not even mentioned in the change-log. Seriously i could not kill a M3A3 Bradley with it, and against open vehicles it actually has to land INSIDE the crew compartment to kill them! The Premium Tiger HAP is (with its also nerfed 30mm gun) is technically useless on 10.0, even preforms poorly in heli PvE!
They just launched a bug fix on the EC-665! And they also changed SP for drones from 550 to 750 kekw. But yeah this SU25K spam in ARB is just heh
@@smippycis6285 Yea; I just got the update!
I have the fun in this i thought i would have had in the A-10.
I'd argue that the closest thing to an Su-25 is the A-7. The Su-25 doesn't have a massive gun, just the Gsh-30. Its still powerful, but Isnt special like the GAU-8.
I just want a realistic a10 that is semi controllable once you take significant damage
My poor wallet...but grinding the TT variant and spading it would take me ages, and it does not have reward bonuses.
Now you can't even get to a base before faster aircraft have already taken them all out making this aircraft useless.
Forgot to mention that it gets that hot that the flares do become useless.
Subbed! Great video man I've been on the fence when it comes to the Su 25K but after doing quite a bit of research and watching your video I'm definitely going to be picking it up eventually. I am still a bit hesitant with the hefty price tag tho. hoping it goes on sale sometime!
I honestly dont understand how so many people say it can take a massive amounts of damage. I get hit once and im just dead, so many times unsteerable, or just straight up insta death.
Wouldn't the A-7 be the US analog to the Su? iirc the A-10 is used more as a overkill COIN aircraft with the mixed capability to work as a strike aircraft if needed
Yeah that's a better comparison
80% win rate!? I researched this thing yesterday and almost spaded it today and I have a 30% winrate. This afternoon I lost 15 games in a row in air rb while getting 1-2 kills a game the teams are full of lvl 10 in these and other attackers.
It's more accurate to say the Su-25 is what the Northrop YA-9 could have been.
i wish gaijin allowed refunds at the first days of use... i got it for ground rb and tbh its dissapointing, and the laser guidance camera makes it harder to spot vehicles compared to 3rd person veiw (cause it zooms less) the r60s are the only good thing about it, it is more survivable than the a10 tho but i never survive AA missiles compared to what i see on youtube
Can tell you’ve never used an su22
@@LeviandTominHD su22m3? that thing gets 6 r60s and its supersonic, its bad for ground stricking tho
@@tsilfidis1996 at 11.0 it gets 4 r60ms and 2 r60’s without a ground strike load, with the same ground strike camera. Now the frogfoot is at 9.7 so it doesn’t have to fight 11.0 AA or tomcats or mirage 2ks, the only thing the su22 does better is that it’s faster and has 2 more decent missiles for a almost 1.3 br increase maybe just don’t buy premiums without the skill because 11.0 r60ms at 9.7 are just fucking broke. Most 8.7-9.3 planes don’t even have flares.
How about u get good at the game
@@ISt0leYaCheese at least im better than u
😂 I never touch the USSR Plane tech tree but playing this plane got me all the way to tier 6 I’m currently researching the Su7bkl
It’s good for researching top tier?
Ima keep this plane on my watch list
there are a lot of compressor stalls on the dcs su25(wish gaijin also had it)
Yeah but gaijin is a world where they’re are no issues or reliability problems, otherwise ussr would be unplayable
@@Spacedude-jq2dq They would be just as unplayable as the US and Germany. Don't kid yourself.
@@PAUL-ESNEED not really at all? USSR is known for their unreliability, same with Germany. US is not.
@@christianblaseadams7996 search up F-14 compressor stall and shut up
@@christianblaseadams7996 don't forget about Shermans setting themselves on fire
Does it have bomb CCIP? Maybe I'm being daft but it seems to say so on the HUD but I cannot actually get it to work? Works fine for rockets.
Just worked it out, you have to be in a much steeper dive for it to appear.
Thjs or 23ml for grinding the tree?
The Su25 is only rank V it can't grind the whole tree plus it isn't good at farming bases anymore
I can grind the whole tree because it's a premium@@roguebogey
How can I use my flares what keyboard should I press can someone help me😣😣
Mach .87 fairly little difficulty? 4 bombs and I have to cut throttle so my plane will stop lookin like it’s gone shake all the bolts out
Tank RB against russia is just impossible now. I see people just rush a cap with the BT-5 and proceed to slap people around.
does this hold true at 10.0? might be fun for my AMX 30 DCA or my Roland
I bought this and got a ace in it it after a few games. I'm good at the a10 so if you can play that well you can play this too. If you suck at the a10 don't get this.
I dont know if its better to buy it now or wait for winter sale, it wont be on discount cuz its a new plane right???
How do you think this would preform in air sim? Using it as a ground strike and a dog fighter aircraft
Its just good. You just need to watch the topspeed of 800kph+ because of the wings.. and this is it.
@@sp1n4l good to know thank you very much
Brain dead is cuz it can see 262
@@ISt0leYaCheese what??...
@@ryanwarkentin4706 yes
Has it created a 9.7 void that my MiG-21 MF and SPSK can take advantage of?
Any 10.3 can shit on it
It's only weeknesses is that it has no after burns but it can still go mach jesus, has really resistant flaps that you can release until +800 km/h it's AAM are agile like that one 15 old crush in the gym flying at mach Jesus.
How u can kill something with those laser vuided rockets?
Like u have 0 zoom
If it moves up to 10.0, it would be significantly worse in ground rb. Probably below average.
the turms beeing on 10.0 gets way too much downtiers to 9.3 or 9.7 compared to the previous 10.7 pain
Will his missiles be nerfed like the A10?
just a youtuber bro
The A10 got its missiles buffed this update
They now can pull 30G the moment they get fired instead of having to get up to speed
Again gaijin need to put seperate BR for GRB and ARB. At ARB yes the su-25 is phenomenal for a CAS with R60M but at GRB its less capable than A10 with 6Mav cause the optimal range of SU-25 is like 2.5km away even with the laser guided munition
short answer , hell yes
Can you do a g91 r4 review?
What is the 2nd best USSR plane you mention?
Su-7BMK I suppose
Now that is 10Br is still worth it?
How do you get the 0:22 skin?
For my birthday, I was thinking of paying $59.99 instead of having my mother pay for it, as I have the money, It's going to be my birthdate day (which means I can just do what I want), and I will be careful with what I do.
In short, just paying spare money I earned, that I can spare.
Its gonna be 50%off in late june
This man predicted the future, as of now, the frogfoot is at 10.0
its not
@@fsynorth2341 for me it is
I'll check again
Isn't it at 9.7 and never gets uptiered
10.0 for aab. 9.7 for realistic ab
I might get it if it goes on sale at that time i will probably also aquire the turms sounds like a nice birthday present for myself next year
For now ill stick to fucking about in the test drive
My question is it worth getting other premiums to match it on the ground?
easy, get the t72 turms
@@NoName-hs5hx I did the thing and also the BMP-2M
Tax return came in ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How do I take out F5C's with it, or at least not die from them. Almost every game an F5C takes me out.
You made me not buy this thank you for letting me know I’m gonna buy
U cant. And u shouldn't
I love your videos
People saying this plane sucks at CAS at 9.7 💀
I never played for URSS , would it be a good idea to buy the su-25 without other good planes?
Should I grind whith this plane
The Su-25K is easily the best plane I've ever flown. I have a 2.5 K/D with it after nearly 300 matches. It won't be that way for everyone, but this is my best plane in game - bar none.
Thx
I have never been so bored flying a plane like this i dont understand why ppl say its a good plane i would say its a little to slow Just cuz of my expierence of my 10 games before i got to a base i was shot Down by everything
People say its good because of the missiles at 9.7. bombing bases is never the way to go with the su25. You are just really slow and a huge target priority. If you really want to bomb bases use su7bmk but if you insist on using the frogfoot for that then set the keybind for flares/chaff and get ready to look all 360 degrees every few seconds.
Yet another reason I absolutely hate Gaijin's obsession with selling popular vehicles like this.
If it's flown by a casual or new player who just wants an overpowered grinder, they'll absolutely suck in it, but they can still shit on tech tree subsonic gunfighters with no missiles or countermeasures, with fucking all-aspect dogfight missiles.
If flown by competent players, it will absolutely dominate battles because it's essentially two free kills plus good enough dogfight performance to club planes below its BR.
I've already seen both sides of this spam, and it has once again ruined a BR bracket. 10.3 planes are being spammed to counter them, so up-tiers are all but guaranteed. Anyone caught in the middle is going to have an awful time.
how to get the shark camo ?
Preorder camo
I play on console so it’s impossible to use guided rockets🙄
Its not THAT good, people are just brain dead. Mig zips by with 3 enemies on his tail and they dont even look at me as i swing the nose around and pop both R60s at their tails
It is now 10.3 in Sim and double the price. I just purchased it in the pack sale at 50 percent off. fifty percent off equals what you paid for a few months ago. Greedy much Gaijin?
Ah yes the plane that makes it almost impossible to play f4c
*Dude it has a blahaj camo.*
O su 25k e bom pra farma em realista aérea??
game would have been better if this wasnt added this is too op in air rb TOO OP REMOVE IT GAIJIN
As I sayd in the giveaway : Russia Bias !
I only fly planes , the only jet I have is the Rado , Im a tanker , but good to know these one is a beast :)
I just saw a real footage of this su 25 crash during take off...
If ur on about the what I think a vid in the war in Ukraine thats because Russia and Ukraine have a shortage of spare parts...any aircraft will crash if its not maintained properly
@@haydenagnew only the Ukrainians the Russians have alot of spare parts
I'm not getting it I'm broke as is
real
It's a pretty terrible plane. Any plane can be good with a good piliot but that doesn't change the fact that the plane is bad. At it's BR it's way slower than anyone else in the lobby and is easy picking for f-5c that are 400 km faster than you. For bombing it can carry an alright load but is too slow so other bombers get their firrst and you're just waiting for the bases to reset.
Flat out OP as anything else russian in this game
Happy May Sale Wallet Warriors 😂
“What the A-10 should be” yeah no the A-10 is better it’s just slower is all. Weapons wise the SU-25 sucks, except it’s R-60M those are super amazing.
For CAS, the AGM-65s on the A-10 are better than what the Frogfoot has for sure, but, otherwise, It's a toss up. For air battles, I strongly prefer the Frogfoot due to the substantially better energy/speed that it has, along with its better ability to carry the additional cannons. Attaching to additional cannons to the A-10 kills its already awful speed, whereas the Frogfoot has surprisingly good speed/maneuverability with the four 23mm cannons attached.
Yeah I don't agree with the "what the A-10 should be" part it's more comparable to the A-7 than the A-10
@@Tankenstein however you can’t forget EVERYTHING suspended is ejectable now with a keybind including empty rocket pods and cannons. The A-10 is perfect CAS and yes it’s anti air role is a bit more limited. The Frogfoot is a bit more capable due to its power and speed against air but it’s heavy use of dumb weapons, rockets, and laser guided makes it an even easier target than the A-10 to top tier SPAA. The A-10 can sit at a very high alt and let the mavericks glide in from very high and you can push probably 8km at max alt with the A-10
@@Klaus_Klavier a-10 fanboy
@@sidtasker2937 Gaijin didn’t model the A-10 properly AT ALL it bursts into flames unrealistically easy and falls apart when it simply doesn’t do that IRL, meanwhile the SU-25 in game for me has BEEN HIT AND SHRUGGED OFF MULTIPLE SAMs in Ground RB while I flew it. Both aircraft should be about that tanky.
Russia is already op now they add this thing to complete
F-5c vs this plane? What one should I buy?
8mins of fuel is dum
This plane is insane, out turns anything with air breaks and flaps, insta spin on them if you as long as you watch your six and pop flares 24/7 your good lol. Oh a guy overshot you cause you threw the breaks on? Bye bye
This plane really isn't as good as y'all are making it out to be..... Its hella overrated and aa food just like the A10. At least the warthog has a chance with Mavericks tho.
S250-hold my beer
Bruh the flag looks like is from the Philippines
There is no way they would make it 10.0 it should've stayed at 9.3 cause it gets dunked on by F5C kids, Or the Frenchies. If they up the BR I better see the poopy A10 at 10.0 right along it.
the a10 has worst missile and the a10 is slower while the f5c f5e is one of the best aircraft in the game for dogfighting so no shit you get shit on by it in your shitfoot 25
The tech tree A10 is 10.0.....
@@aflyingcowboy31 we talking premiums my guy, screw the tech tree shit. 😂
Nah man put at 8.7 so it can kill any fun jet br left in the game. And how about u understand u cant/shouldn't be able to beat air superiority fighter in a attacker
@@ISt0leYaCheese kid.. everyone knows you shouldn't, But to bump it to 10.0 is useless cause then you just see more top tier and like... 11.3 would smash cas jets . End of story, So honestly the only issue is GAYJIN's br issues where you get thrown into 10.7 cause it's a 9.7 makes 0 sense on how that works.. but hey it's GAYJIN.