As an absolute Air RB main, I can hear that you're more of a ground player and I feel like in the aspect of Air Battles, you didn't sufficiently cover the plane. I've played the 25K a lot in the past couple days and it is an absolute monster of a tech tree grinder, especially if you know how to use all the different features effectively. Want to get a really high score? (For example for the 2500 score points missions?) Get the 4x500kg bombs, enable ripple quantity, set it to 4 and lock the enemy base with CCRP. You can destroy 2 bases with that loadout, giving you 1100 points and even if you immediately die afterwards, with premium that converts to around 6-8k RP. If you live longer or happen to come across enemy base strikers you get another 2 kills with the R-60MKs and end up with slightly above 2k scorepoints. A few more ground targets, AI planes or simply one more assist/kill will get you covered. Easy 15k RP. If you want to farm ground targets, which this plane is absolutely fantastic at, get the S-8 rocket pots for maximum amount of rockets. Thanks to CCIP you can easily hit uncovered targets like Artillery and AAA, but light pillboxes and light moving targets are also guaranteed kills if you hit anywhere near them. With the 30mm gun you can also kill any AI tank, just be careful of maps like Golan Heights where there are SPAAGs who will almost immediately kill you if they get a lock on you. They have the detailed damage models so they can't be taken out as easily as regular AI targets. These rocket pots are also great to finish of bases that weren't fully destroyed. And then there's the air to air aspect of this plane. Get the 2 or 4 gun pods (whatever you prefer, I usually run it with all 4 of them, it barely loses any capability compared to two). The gun pods are really good to aim with a medium gun convergance distance. A lot of people still go into headons with the Su-25K, which is a huge mistake. The guns will eat anything they touch and their low drop rate make them easy to aim. If you go without any gunpods and deploy flaps, you can even outturn F-5Cs btw, but you will lose a sustained fight because they have a better energy retention and can just change the direction to hit you from another angle, which you can't. Outrunning them is not an option. Also: You can deploy combat flaps at speeds up to 890km/h, which is insane considering that this plane doesn't go much faster than 950. You have a really good roll rate, so roll hunts are an easy win for you. As for the R-60MKs: If you do a headon lock, don't launch the missile if you see flares (this needs some patience since flares cause an immediate lock). The best time to launch it is at about 1-1,5km from the enemy when it's too late for them to dodge it and most enemies struggle to hit the countermeasures that quickly. There are a few tho and I'm always impressed to find competent enemies. Generally don't launch the missile from more than 2.5km away unless you have a huge altitude advantage on a slow enemy. And for the Su-25Ks weaknesses and what to do with it: It's slow. The only things you can really outrun are A-10s and poor F-86s in a downtier. You have enough flares to evade missiles for a while. But the biggest issue of this plane is its insane heat signature. AIM-9Bs will lock you frontally. This plane may have an "advantage" with it's all-aspect missiles, but trades this off with giving every enemy IR missile the same capability. A lot of times your flares won't safe you from missiles. The trick is to get your throttle down once you expect a missile, so that your engines immediately cool down and make the flares work. This is also recommendable when going into a headon with an A-10 since AIM-9Ls lock you from a lot further away than other usually non-all-aspect IR missiles. Another thing are matchups: You will see a lot of uptiers to 10.3 and a lot of non-premium enemies have flares there. Again: Patience. You can generally head with this plane right into a furball at the start of the match, but it's recommended to cut towards the outmost enemy base first and give it a bit of time. You don't want to face more than 2 enemies at once with this plane if you're alone (which is already pretty decent tho). I also highly recommend to keep the R-60s as long as you can since most players don't expect you to still have them towards the later phases of the game and thus won't pop flares (if they even still have them). The Su-25K is a really good grinder for the Air Tree. I've researched so much stuff with it in the 7 days that I got to play it so far and made an insane amount of SL as well. Is it broken OP? No, it takes a bit of experience to make it properly work in all aspects. Even ground striking in Air RB requires experience with how to position yourself so that you won't get shot down early. The missiles are most definitely very very strong, but they can be countered and imo the AIM-9Ls are good chunk stronger than them due to range.
Thanks man I bought it Yesterday to start my Ussr plane grind Cuz I'm 7.0 and tanks and only 4.0 at planes and Damm i already at 6.0 this plane flys like a piece of butter the Rockets are op af And my mate plays A-10 I'm constantly on 10.0 And stop get kills Easily i mosten get a base kill slow enemies and try to escape The main fight to get to the ground target i roughly get around 2k points every match witch Premium time i get 30k-50k sl And 15k-20k XP so blessed me ih
you just wrote a whole book but i read it and i can agree, its super good for me personally. Its super good at grinding the tech tree + its very very good in ground and air rb in my eyes, in my eyes one of the best premium Jets you can buy, but you need a bit of experience, i just bought it without Jet experience, it was hard at beginning but time after time youll get used to it
After dealing with MiG23 R/T 24’s and R60MK’s the SU25K are just free kills without support. The amount of pilots firing 4km hot or 6km cold is astounding. SU25 pilots are fueling my French Grind rn.
It’s really survivable for some reason, while it’s guns are even more lethal than the A10s against low armor targets. Not to mention op as hell unguided missiles. It’s really really strong. I love the S250s
Yea, but what better option u have, if u want to grind the top Russian planes? The Su-7BMK is not a bad plane, and it grinded me most of rank 6, but that was a year ago (with airspawn), and its really showing its age now, + the MiG-21S can replace it in ground RB with its 4 x S-24 with CCIP (but in my experience u better of with the Mi-24 as CAS, than those, hoping to spot something to rocket/bomb before someone starts to hunt u). Speaking of MiG-21S; it shares the same "handicaps" as the MILAN, or the J35A; where u get a rank 7 airframe and engine, but everything else is rank 5 (without countermeasures). I was planning to replace my Su-7s with these, yet i still fly those in Air RB rather than the 25. Maybe when the hype goes down; i start fly the Su-25 too.
Drones aren't bad considering there is a flight model of a AC-130 flying around at mach 0.80 with better accel than supersonics with 2 all aspects missiles when most planes at the br don't have flares, plus a lot of other countries have R-60's or magics or AIM-9L's vs the F-100D
Absolutey favourite so far. I find it way better then the A-10 both in speed,surviveability and weaponry sooooo much better ( may you ask the weaponry how this might be personal but i've been getting more consistent kills with the laser designator when using it in third person then with the mavericks using them either in cam or TPS ). Tho gotta say 9.7 might be too low but 10.0 is a bit too high at the same time
Aim9Ls are better than r60mks tho. Ive had so many so many instances where my r60 doesnt lock while the aim9l wouldve. The 9L is also harder to flare and has a longer range.
Im grinding the Russian airtree at the moment with this one and it is GOOD. Normally I avrage at 20K XP per match, but I have some experience in to Tier planes sooo, maybe I am not the worst player?
I got the tech tree option and I really like it. R60M's are a little bit of an obscenity at 9.7, there are planes that have no counter play against you, it feels dirty. At the same time matchmaking has you at 10.3 most of the time and F5C is superior to you in every way that matters. Overal, it's fine. I just dislike the rock, paper, scissors matchmaking in ARB above 9.0 or 9.3.
If you're wondering if you should buy it, then listen up because I have 3k hours experience and over 30 rank VII vehicles. You're way better off spending $15-$20 on a talisman for whichever plane you do best in for Rank IV+V and then spend the other $20 on the su25's modifications, then it'll be identical to the premium and you wont have buyers remorse because you spent money on improving already great planes and not some shitty-grinder attacker. Here's the 3 planes that will maximize time spent: Rank IV: Yak-3U, it's nickname is the UFO for good reason Rank V: mig 9L is decent, la-200 kinda stomps and mig-15 still kicks ass. Attackers are always worse than fighters for grinding, if you think the SL booster is worth it, it's not. My best SL grinder is XM-1 with 7 million grinded so far (604), thats even with 45% w/r lmao. Best SL grinder for planes is F-89B but that was when the guns were lasers, 4.2 million (177 matches), 63% w/r. Even my IS-6 has earned me 3.5 million (315 matches), 63% win rate. Tbh just get whatever meta-defining premium there is that fits your playstyle and knowledge level in Air RB for grinding SL. Even my D-13 has made me excellent money as a Rank IV: (125 battles) 3.4 million, with a 56% w/r, 2.4 k/d. That's the smart way to grind a tech tree. Only get the pack/premiums when they're on sale. Either way you're supporting a shitty dev team so you might as well give them less money for what you're really trying to play in the game.
Sako, as someone whos is going through really bad Baguette Fever, can you by chance do a review on the Milan and on how badly I will probably regret it? Thanks!
I got it last week. Now I have the mirage 2000. It’s not great especially fighting r60m’s however bombing based gets the job done. Depending on how much experience u have in air rb it’s an okay option but it’s not good by any means.
Hey Sako when you get the chance can you try the Prinz Eugen? Thinking about buying it and when I try to look up videos all I see are ones from 2 years ago. I guess Germany suffers
Nope. You're way better off spending $15-$20 on a talisman for whichever plane you do best in for Rank IV+V and then spend the other $20 on the su25's modifications, then it'll be identical to the premium and you wont have buyers remorse because you spent money on improving already great planes and not some shitty-grinder attacker. That's the smart way to grind a tech tree. Only get the pack/premiums when they're on sale. Either way you're supporting a shitty dev team so you might as well give them less money for what you're really trying to play in the game.
@@joshjonson2368 Use your flares and go in late after they have shot off all their missles. I'm using the F4C Phantom to farm them with radar guided missles.
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As an absolute Air RB main, I can hear that you're more of a ground player and I feel like in the aspect of Air Battles, you didn't sufficiently cover the plane.
I've played the 25K a lot in the past couple days and it is an absolute monster of a tech tree grinder, especially if you know how to use all the different features effectively.
Want to get a really high score? (For example for the 2500 score points missions?) Get the 4x500kg bombs, enable ripple quantity, set it to 4 and lock the enemy base with CCRP. You can destroy 2 bases with that loadout, giving you 1100 points and even if you immediately die afterwards, with premium that converts to around 6-8k RP. If you live longer or happen to come across enemy base strikers you get another 2 kills with the R-60MKs and end up with slightly above 2k scorepoints. A few more ground targets, AI planes or simply one more assist/kill will get you covered. Easy 15k RP.
If you want to farm ground targets, which this plane is absolutely fantastic at, get the S-8 rocket pots for maximum amount of rockets. Thanks to CCIP you can easily hit uncovered targets like Artillery and AAA, but light pillboxes and light moving targets are also guaranteed kills if you hit anywhere near them. With the 30mm gun you can also kill any AI tank, just be careful of maps like Golan Heights where there are SPAAGs who will almost immediately kill you if they get a lock on you. They have the detailed damage models so they can't be taken out as easily as regular AI targets.
These rocket pots are also great to finish of bases that weren't fully destroyed.
And then there's the air to air aspect of this plane. Get the 2 or 4 gun pods (whatever you prefer, I usually run it with all 4 of them, it barely loses any capability compared to two). The gun pods are really good to aim with a medium gun convergance distance. A lot of people still go into headons with the Su-25K, which is a huge mistake. The guns will eat anything they touch and their low drop rate make them easy to aim. If you go without any gunpods and deploy flaps, you can even outturn F-5Cs btw, but you will lose a sustained fight because they have a better energy retention and can just change the direction to hit you from another angle, which you can't. Outrunning them is not an option. Also: You can deploy combat flaps at speeds up to 890km/h, which is insane considering that this plane doesn't go much faster than 950. You have a really good roll rate, so roll hunts are an easy win for you.
As for the R-60MKs: If you do a headon lock, don't launch the missile if you see flares (this needs some patience since flares cause an immediate lock). The best time to launch it is at about 1-1,5km from the enemy when it's too late for them to dodge it and most enemies struggle to hit the countermeasures that quickly. There are a few tho and I'm always impressed to find competent enemies. Generally don't launch the missile from more than 2.5km away unless you have a huge altitude advantage on a slow enemy.
And for the Su-25Ks weaknesses and what to do with it: It's slow. The only things you can really outrun are A-10s and poor F-86s in a downtier. You have enough flares to evade missiles for a while. But the biggest issue of this plane is its insane heat signature. AIM-9Bs will lock you frontally. This plane may have an "advantage" with it's all-aspect missiles, but trades this off with giving every enemy IR missile the same capability. A lot of times your flares won't safe you from missiles. The trick is to get your throttle down once you expect a missile, so that your engines immediately cool down and make the flares work. This is also recommendable when going into a headon with an A-10 since AIM-9Ls lock you from a lot further away than other usually non-all-aspect IR missiles. Another thing are matchups: You will see a lot of uptiers to 10.3 and a lot of non-premium enemies have flares there. Again: Patience.
You can generally head with this plane right into a furball at the start of the match, but it's recommended to cut towards the outmost enemy base first and give it a bit of time. You don't want to face more than 2 enemies at once with this plane if you're alone (which is already pretty decent tho). I also highly recommend to keep the R-60s as long as you can since most players don't expect you to still have them towards the later phases of the game and thus won't pop flares (if they even still have them).
The Su-25K is a really good grinder for the Air Tree. I've researched so much stuff with it in the 7 days that I got to play it so far and made an insane amount of SL as well.
Is it broken OP? No, it takes a bit of experience to make it properly work in all aspects. Even ground striking in Air RB requires experience with how to position yourself so that you won't get shot down early. The missiles are most definitely very very strong, but they can be countered and imo the AIM-9Ls are good chunk stronger than them due to range.
Thanks man I bought it Yesterday to start my Ussr plane grind Cuz I'm 7.0 and tanks and only 4.0 at planes and Damm i already at 6.0 this plane flys like a piece of butter the Rockets are op af And my mate plays A-10 I'm constantly on 10.0 And stop get kills Easily i mosten get a base kill slow enemies and try to escape The main fight to get to the ground target i roughly get around 2k points every match witch Premium time i get 30k-50k sl
And 15k-20k XP so blessed me ih
Thank you for this piece of information! Was looking forward seeing any actual expanded info, and this helped a lot!
you just wrote a whole book but i read it and i can agree, its super good for me personally. Its super good at grinding the tech tree + its very very good in ground and air rb in my eyes, in my eyes one of the best premium Jets you can buy, but you need a bit of experience, i just bought it without Jet experience, it was hard at beginning but time after time youll get used to it
its not broken the main issue ive seen with it is it going up against planes with no flares.
@Icosikaitetragon fatherless mfs when they have to read:
After dealing with MiG23 R/T 24’s and R60MK’s the SU25K are just free kills without support. The amount of pilots firing 4km hot or 6km cold is astounding. SU25 pilots are fueling my French Grind rn.
Ima drone strike gaijin headquarters
Obama gaming
@@Dan86130 hahaha, I call that a pro gamer move.
W
It’s really survivable for some reason, while it’s guns are even more lethal than the A10s against low armor targets. Not to mention op as hell unguided missiles. It’s really really strong. I love the S250s
well the gun fires APHE not just AP darts so it makes sense.
less pen but if it pens "bad for crew" things happen.
Yea, but what better option u have, if u want to grind the top Russian planes? The Su-7BMK is not a bad plane, and it grinded me most of rank 6, but that was a year ago (with airspawn), and its really showing its age now, + the MiG-21S can replace it in ground RB with its 4 x S-24 with CCIP (but in my experience u better of with the Mi-24 as CAS, than those, hoping to spot something to rocket/bomb before someone starts to hunt u). Speaking of MiG-21S; it shares the same "handicaps" as the MILAN, or the J35A; where u get a rank 7 airframe and engine, but everything else is rank 5 (without countermeasures).
I was planning to replace my Su-7s with these, yet i still fly those in Air RB rather than the 25. Maybe when the hype goes down; i start fly the Su-25 too.
Drones make me wanna cry
Same
Drones aren't bad considering there is a flight model of a AC-130 flying around at mach 0.80 with better accel than supersonics with 2 all aspects missiles when most planes at the br don't have flares, plus a lot of other countries have R-60's or magics or AIM-9L's vs the F-100D
The day they say “we decided strike drones was a bad idea and will remove them” we are gonna do a festival 🎉!
Drones are fine
@@theidioticgentleman4646 bruh
6:55 they may be more effective against ships in air rb
From personal experience, Su-25 with S-5Ks In ground RB is not that bad, I would say better than Kh-25 because of the bad laser camera it gets
I watch these videos to hear you say “flares”. I love your pronunciation. Fluughrs
Of course, the in-depth reviews too
congrats on getting the channel back
The thing on the nose is a laser designator not a TV and irl you just move around the crosshair on the hud
We ever gonna see a British tech tree overview?
Absolutey favourite so far. I find it way better then the A-10 both in speed,surviveability and weaponry sooooo much better ( may you ask the weaponry how this might be personal but i've been getting more consistent kills with the laser designator when using it in third person then with the mavericks using them either in cam or TPS ). Tho gotta say 9.7 might be too low but 10.0 is a bit too high at the same time
Aim9Ls are better than r60mks tho. Ive had so many so many instances where my r60 doesnt lock while the aim9l wouldve. The 9L is also harder to flare and has a longer range.
Did you really buy both premiums? You should change your name to Bouncy Whale
@@vincea1830 who said i did lmao
its about time to remake this video since this is at 10.0 br
Its technically doesnt have any camera, only laser designator/rangefinder for CCIP.
This jet is the best sl grinder at 10.0 in sim matches.
Mirage 2k vid when sako?
Also great video as per usual :)
i think this great for grinding out the air tree i just got my first mig after playing for 2 years....300k+rp inn 1 day with my new frog foot
Im grinding the Russian airtree at the moment with this one and it is GOOD.
Normally I avrage at 20K XP per match, but I have some experience in to Tier planes sooo, maybe I am not the worst player?
Nah you just have op vehicles russain mains are the worst
@@cortney3280 average american main
@@kakadaka7125 me who mains UK and sweeden
should I get mig 23ml or su25k for grinding
Umm, you need to update the music sextion in the descryption, beacouse its still saying that into music is the old one
I got the tech tree option and I really like it. R60M's are a little bit of an obscenity at 9.7, there are planes that have no counter play against you, it feels dirty. At the same time matchmaking has you at 10.3 most of the time and F5C is superior to you in every way that matters. Overal, it's fine. I just dislike the rock, paper, scissors matchmaking in ARB above 9.0 or 9.3.
Feels kinda dirty to click the purchase button
Can you do the leopard with the camo I forgot it’s name
I would choose it for arcade for fun.
If you're wondering if you should buy it, then listen up because I have 3k hours experience and over 30 rank VII vehicles. You're way better off spending $15-$20 on a talisman for whichever plane you do best in for Rank IV+V and then spend the other $20 on the su25's modifications, then it'll be identical to the premium and you wont have buyers remorse because you spent money on improving already great planes and not some shitty-grinder attacker. Here's the 3 planes that will maximize time spent:
Rank IV: Yak-3U, it's nickname is the UFO for good reason
Rank V: mig 9L is decent, la-200 kinda stomps and mig-15 still kicks ass.
Attackers are always worse than fighters for grinding, if you think the SL booster is worth it, it's not. My best SL grinder is XM-1 with 7 million grinded so far (604), thats even with 45% w/r lmao. Best SL grinder for planes is F-89B but that was when the guns were lasers, 4.2 million (177 matches), 63% w/r. Even my IS-6 has earned me 3.5 million (315 matches), 63% win rate. Tbh just get whatever meta-defining premium there is that fits your playstyle and knowledge level in Air RB for grinding SL. Even my D-13 has made me excellent money as a Rank IV: (125 battles) 3.4 million, with a 56% w/r, 2.4 k/d.
That's the smart way to grind a tech tree. Only get the pack/premiums when they're on sale. Either way you're supporting a shitty dev team so you might as well give them less money for what you're really trying to play in the game.
Ratio
Love new intro
please review the new premium British Heli
Me getting consistent 3 to 4k games in my su25k 🥺
Sako, as someone whos is going through really bad Baguette Fever, can you by chance do a review on the Milan and on how badly I will probably regret it? Thanks!
No you shouldn't buy the Milan. I didn't bother reviewing it because it was so awful
I got it last week. Now I have the mirage 2000. It’s not great especially fighting r60m’s however bombing based gets the job done. Depending on how much experience u have in air rb it’s an okay option but it’s not good by any means.
Hey Sako when you get the chance can you try the Prinz Eugen? Thinking about buying it and when I try to look up videos all I see are ones from 2 years ago. I guess Germany suffers
It's got a pretty low fire rate, and armour that isn't really useful unless you're downtiered. I can try and do a video on it.
@@SAKOSNIPER thanks man it honestly means alot
Did not yet get a single kill with it. My rockets hit but do crits at best, tried pretty much all unguided variants already.
Do you have CCIP for rockets bound?
skill issue
Sick intro
Didnt know f 15 were in the gamew
If im researching the mig27k, is there really any reason to pay for this?
If youre close to 27K, and looking to play 11.0, then theres no reason to pay for this. However you can get the tech tree version for 9.7 games.
Nope. You're way better off spending $15-$20 on a talisman for whichever plane you do best in for Rank IV+V and then spend the other $20 on the su25's modifications, then it'll be identical to the premium and you wont have buyers remorse because you spent money on improving already great planes and not some shitty-grinder attacker.
That's the smart way to grind a tech tree. Only get the pack/premiums when they're on sale. Either way you're supporting a shitty dev team so you might as well give them less money for what you're really trying to play in the game.
Wonderful piece of Russian engineering
I'm lucky didn't get Gaijined anad buy it. I just grinded out the tech tree version. Its pretty trashy in air RB
How do I avoid those dreadful r60s, just got into 9.0 and these things are plaguing every single match
@@joshjonson2368 Use your flares and go in late after they have shot off all their missles. I'm using the F4C Phantom to farm them with radar guided missles.
@@Reivbv mate 99% don't have flares
rare sako L
I hate this plane so much
10.3 😭😭😭😭
Lmao so many contradictory statements.