I enjoyed your video! You are like me, making these things to improve your time in the garage. Thank you for the great idea. You inspired me to make my own track hoist. Keep going, Please.
I love that you show the hiccups instead of seamless installations. If things like this went as smooth as other videos every engineering feat or construction project would be on time and on budget. In 34 years I've never seen either. Lol. Great video!
Buying the 440 tomorrow. Just to lift front of my ztr for maintenance under deck. Mower weighs 850 plus gas but I think ztrs are a 70 / 30 Weight distro .. 70 in back. So 275 to lift front.. Hopefully I'm good! Hope it's held up well for you. Maybe I'll get next step up in case I need to lift back off ground a few inches some day.. tire changes etc..
VW engine in that dress is just about 200 lbs. Might be 250 lbs complete with shrouds and generator. The Datsun / Nissan short block is around 300 lbs. Still, in all, impressively thought out. What I would change (and you might have mentioned) was adding a longer power cord, but rig it off to the side to keep it away from the track. Obviously extending the control cable, which you mentioned. I'd add a tag line so you can move things along the track from ground level without tugging on the wires. Last but not least, if you plan to go up there on a regular basis you should add a railing so you don't take a header off the side. While we're talking about safety, maybe a label on the control stating max load in case somebody else tries to use the thing when you are not around.
Have done some of that since the video. Added a chain that both prevents the trolley from going farther than the power cable and gives me a way to pull it towards me. Also have extended the control cable. Yeah, a railing probably is a good idea, have not done that yet but probably should.
I thought about welding up something or using an I beam but would have been heavier and actually the plywood made it much easier to drill and bolt together for mounting. I need to get back to work on that Datsun! Part of the problem is the shop is too cluttered but the hoist is helping me fix that.
That is true, especially if you're working with some heavy gauge metal. That plywood will actually be very strong. I love 510s so I definitely want to see what you do with it!
great video. I have been wondering how to build a hoist that I can bring my ebike up to the 3rd floor with. The bike is just over 100lbs, and I do not want to keep lugging it up the stairs. So a project we will go.
Great ideas, especially the laminated plywood beam and trolley. Could also be used to hoist a dirt bike or small motorcycle onto a work table. Just need to find a good lift point to keep the bike level. A bigger motorcycle would obviously need a bigger hoist with a stronger beam and trolley. Thanks for sharing. P.S. In case the roof structure isn't strong enough to support the beam (3x load factor), the ends of the beam could be supported on 4x4 or 6x6 posts mounted at each side of the garage.
this was an ingenius video. I am looking to get me one of these lifts from DR with a weight limit of 1000 lbs. Heck my ceiling is only 9 ft high and it'll be for picking light lawnmower engines etc. I do like you made the rail....
To keep any sway out of the trolley roll, you could add a couple of those roller skate bearings on the horizontal plane at each corner of your trolley block, ... And to make sure the trolley does not get any sideways play while tracking, you could also use a couple of the garage door track roller sleeves as bushings for the bolts, ... in addition to those measures, you could adjust the setting of where the roller skate bearings are riding on the angle rails, by adding as many washers as necessary to alternate the load on the rail track, ... thus increasing the load bearing surface of the rails, ... just a couple of thoughts to your processing design, ... spreading out the positions of where you are placing the heavier items on your office ceiling trusses, will eliminate any surprise entries into your office from above, ... You mentioned that you are located in New England, ... and I know it can get quite cold there during the winters, ... you should/could eliminate any cold areas inside your office for heat loss through the ceiling, by putting a few layers of insulation over your office space by putting a false floor above your office, too, ... reinforcing the floor load strength of the office ceiling, ... I do not know what the rafter strength of the buildings code is, but you need to make sure that there is enough “flex” in the rafter itself, before you go placing differing weight loads upon the overall structure, ... just saying, from a safety point of view, ... because I don’t believe the structures of those steel clad buildings are meant for such stress capacities, ... Yes, ... I know you won’t be trying to exceed the limits of your hoist, but, differing times of year, with differing weather temps can affect such load actions as the building must flex, with the temps, ... or withstand certain loads placed on it with differing loads of wind force, rain, sleet, snow, & ice, etcetera, ... & then flex in the opposite direction(s) with the summer’s heat, ... All in all, a well thought out project, ... something that can be utilized throughout the year, with a minimum of effort to move, & store items that can get in the way of everyday life, when only needed as you have/want to use spare time for hobbies, ... or seasonal events, ...
While I really like your idea a better solution for your application would be to build a lift using garage door rails on the wall to the ceiling and craft a box using strut and garage door wheels. Put the trolley up high and lift as needed. Store it in the up position so its out of the way.
Amazing video, thank you for this step by step including your mishaps. Also, i wonder if you could install another 2 rolling Tracks that can move in the opposite direction so you can drop anything anywhere on your upper deck. I did like this demonstration though.
I want to do this same thing..where do I find the track? I found a hoist from Harbor Freight..from Pittsburgh Automotive..remote control hoist..how do I find the track? Its not listed with the hoist
Just a hint about drilling holes. The lowest RPM while still making chips is the best speed and feed. The high RPM here is work hardening the material making the drilling even tougher. When in doubt - go slow... ;)
You could have added a outlet at the middle of the track and plugged the cord into it, there by giving you run of the whole track. Then all you would have to do is lengthen the switch cord. I didn't hear you say what the angle size was, but something like this, I would use at least 4".
I always do the bounce test. Lift that block 6 inches then stand on it and jump up and down a little at first. If it breaks then it hasn't far to go. I'm actually going to make a track tomorrow out of c section.
Cool! Hey bare in mind the max load of the straps you are rigging with and don't get crazy with putting stuff over your office. You will end up with a couple thousand pounds sitting on your ceiling 😁 LOL!
Chappy, this was a really great, informative and pleasant to watch video. You were telling us, without wasting our time, how you were doing your project and that some of your plans were just in your head. Oops! I got the beam turned around. No problem. Fade out...Fade in back to work. I am so FED UP with TH-camrs who make "help" videos just so they can hear themselves talk. First, it's, "Let's get started"! and then every second or third sentence has at lease one, "as you can see" or "I'm just going to". If it's a 10 year old kid doing a "Make your own slime" video, that's one thing but the adults drive me crazy. I look forward to watching more of your videos. You are doing it the right way!
Great to hear my editing works out well. I find myself rambling on a fair bit but try to edit that down to just the useful bits. I appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching!
@@ChappysGarage Could you please explain in detail how you extended the remote control cord (e.g., type of cord used, which end was extended, etc.). Thank you.
Yes, stops on both ends. Also, since shooting the video I have added a chain that is just a little shorter than the power cord. Prevents the cord from being yanked and gives me something to pull the trolley back with.
Pretty nice job on the trolley lift but get rid of that harbor freight made in china junk! The first one I bought started smoking right out of the factory sealed retail box, and the second one lasted 3 months even following all of their do's and dont's.
hey chappy...just watched this build...not bad, won't critique too bad....however you made a comment about nuts/hardware ...."nothing is in its right place"..."and nobody at the store GIVES A DAMN"!! piss off jack-wagon!!! I work at the big box store....and I could/have spent my entire shift trying to reorganize the MANY items that customers are too lazy and rude to put back in the right spot!! believe me I've tried!!! then I am interrupted by all the lazy and rude customers who can't find the crap themselves so I CANT reorganize said stuff! you give it a try!
mike mcgln Trump probably isn’t his president? And he doesn’t take in consideration one is supposed to be standing by the motor for safety. In this case, not underneath item lifted.
Now for my next task...reinforcing the ceiling over that little room.
Nicely done! The video and the assembly instructions were great!!
I enjoyed your video! You are like me, making these things to improve your time in the garage. Thank you for the great idea. You inspired me to make my own track hoist. Keep going, Please.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!
That was a hell of a job!! Worked slick as grease on a door handle!😂👌
Keep up the great work, and your excellent videos too!
Thanks! 😁👍✌
The railing is a Unistrut channel fixed to a wood joist. The winch is fixed with steel angles to the Unistrut.
I love that you show the hiccups instead of seamless installations. If things like this went as smooth as other videos every engineering feat or construction project would be on time and on budget. In 34 years I've never seen either. Lol. Great video!
Agreed, successful recovery is often more valuable than perfection the first time.
Buying the 440 tomorrow. Just to lift front of my ztr for maintenance under deck. Mower weighs 850 plus gas but I think ztrs are a 70 / 30 Weight distro .. 70 in back. So 275 to lift front.. Hopefully I'm good! Hope it's held up well for you. Maybe I'll get next step up in case I need to lift back off ground a few inches some day.. tire changes etc..
Great video, i can also see my self putting the beam up the wrong way even after watching the video and learning from your mistake.
I need this for moving 4x8 slabs on and off my cnc. Thanks!
I can see this being useful for that.
VW engine in that dress is just about 200 lbs. Might be 250 lbs complete with shrouds and generator. The Datsun / Nissan short block is around 300 lbs. Still, in all, impressively thought out. What I would change (and you might have mentioned) was adding a longer power cord, but rig it off to the side to keep it away from the track. Obviously extending the control cable, which you mentioned. I'd add a tag line so you can move things along the track from ground level without tugging on the wires. Last but not least, if you plan to go up there on a regular basis you should add a railing so you don't take a header off the side. While we're talking about safety, maybe a label on the control stating max load in case somebody else tries to use the thing when you are not around.
Have done some of that since the video. Added a chain that both prevents the trolley from going farther than the power cable and gives me a way to pull it towards me. Also have extended the control cable. Yeah, a railing probably is a good idea, have not done that yet but probably should.
This is exactly what I want to do in my garage! Thanks!
Creative use of plywood to make that hoist! Wouldn't have thought of that, I'd be welding something up like a dummy :). Love the Datsun too!
I thought about welding up something or using an I beam but would have been heavier and actually the plywood made it much easier to drill and bolt together for mounting. I need to get back to work on that Datsun! Part of the problem is the shop is too cluttered but the hoist is helping me fix that.
That is true, especially if you're working with some heavy gauge metal. That plywood will actually be very strong. I love 510s so I definitely want to see what you do with it!
Pretty good video and gave me some Ideas thanx.
great video. I have been wondering how to build a hoist that I can bring my ebike up to the 3rd floor with. The bike is just over 100lbs, and I do not want to keep lugging it up the stairs. So a project we will go.
Nicely done. I was thinking of doing something similar, but with block and tackle rather than the hoist. Glad it worked out. Best wishes.
Thanks, has worked out great. Been using it for about a year now.
Using the plywood was pretty ingenious. Thank you for the video. It is a good set up.
Love it! Definitely going to make a shorter one in the future!
Great ideas, especially the laminated plywood beam and trolley. Could also be used to hoist a dirt bike or small motorcycle onto a work table. Just need to find a good lift point to keep the bike level. A bigger motorcycle would obviously need a bigger hoist with a stronger beam and trolley. Thanks for sharing.
P.S. In case the roof structure isn't strong enough to support the beam (3x load factor), the ends of the beam could be supported on 4x4 or 6x6 posts mounted at each side of the garage.
Hadn't thought about lifting a motorcycle. Might try it with my 250 or 450 dirt bikes. Probably won't with my KTM 990 ADV :)
Enjoyed your video and learned a lot, thanks!
this was an ingenius video. I am looking to get me one of these lifts from DR with a weight limit of 1000 lbs. Heck my ceiling is only 9 ft high and it'll be for picking light lawnmower engines etc. I do like you made the rail....
This was awesome thank you for the video very similar to what I was hoping to do but at this moment a much smaller track but I love this idea
Nice job!
Great vid - I just wonder if the roof of that office is rated for 2 tonnes of gear on it! :)
I had similar thoughts!
Looks like 2x6 on 16” centers and no more than a 12’ span. Should be no problem at all.
Great idea on a budget but dam that 3/4” is wild. Famous last words… “I don’t plan to lift anything heavy”…….
To keep any sway out of the trolley roll, you could add a couple of those roller skate bearings on the horizontal plane at each corner of your trolley block, ... And to make sure the trolley does not get any sideways play while tracking, you could also use a couple of the garage door track roller sleeves as bushings for the bolts, ... in addition to those measures, you could adjust the setting of where the roller skate bearings are riding on the angle rails, by adding as many washers as necessary to alternate the load on the rail track, ... thus increasing the load bearing surface of the rails, ... just a couple of thoughts to your processing design, ... spreading out the positions of where you are placing the heavier items on your office ceiling trusses, will eliminate any surprise entries into your office from above, ...
You mentioned that you are located in New England, ... and I know it can get quite cold there during the winters, ... you should/could eliminate any cold areas inside your office for heat loss through the ceiling, by putting a few layers of insulation over your office space by putting a false floor above your office, too, ... reinforcing the floor load strength of the office ceiling, ... I do not know what the rafter strength of the buildings code is, but you need to make sure that there is enough “flex” in the rafter itself, before you go placing differing weight loads upon the overall structure, ... just saying, from a safety point of view, ... because I don’t believe the structures of those steel clad buildings are meant for such stress capacities, ... Yes, ... I know you won’t be trying to exceed the limits of your hoist, but, differing times of year, with differing weather temps can affect such load actions as the building must flex, with the temps, ... or withstand certain loads placed on it with differing loads of wind force, rain, sleet, snow, & ice, etcetera, ... & then flex in the opposite direction(s) with the summer’s heat, ...
All in all, a well thought out project, ... something that can be utilized throughout the year, with a minimum of effort to move, & store items that can get in the way of everyday life, when only needed as you have/want to use spare time for hobbies, ... or seasonal events, ...
While I really like your idea a better solution for your application would be to build a lift using garage door rails on the wall to the ceiling and craft a box using strut and garage door wheels. Put the trolley up high and lift as needed. Store it in the up position so its out of the way.
I use1-5/8" Wide 2-7/16" Tall 13 Gauge Steel Unistrut Channel with a six wheel trolley roller which will bolt to the hoist with ease.
Amazing video, thank you for this step by step including your mishaps. Also, i wonder if you could install another 2 rolling Tracks that can move in the opposite direction so you can drop anything anywhere on your upper deck. I did like this demonstration though.
Did you put stops on the rail so the hoist doesn't run off the ends of the Rail.
awesome project. would you mind sharing the details of the bearings?
They are standard roller skate bearings. Search for them on amazon, you can find them pretty cheap.
You need to have some sort of stop at each end of the track to keep
the trolley from coming off the end of the track.
Vevor sells a hoist with a wireless remote that’s the one I bought so I didn’t have to worry about the cord for the controller being so short.
That sounds useful. Have not seen that one.
Nice job helpful video. Im thinking of buying one to move small outboards around in my garage shop up to 150 lbs..Glenn P.
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ok this was just mad slick, into the favorites folder this goes!
thanks for this idea,its very useful for me.good job👍👍👍👍😁.
great use for a couple pulleys... one on each end, tied together so they lift horizontally.
Amazon has all the steel roller trollies and steel mount for probably less than you paid for all your bearings.. all u need is 1 5/8” strut.
I want to do this same thing..where do I find the track? I found a hoist from Harbor Freight..from Pittsburgh Automotive..remote control hoist..how do I find the track? Its not listed with the hoist
Watch the video. I built the track myself.
so i built ton out of Unistrut using their trolleys. worls great
Just a hint about drilling holes. The lowest RPM while still making chips is the best speed and feed. The high RPM here is work hardening the material making the drilling even tougher. When in doubt - go slow... ;)
You could have added a outlet at the middle of the track and plugged the cord into it, there by giving you run of the whole track. Then all you would have to do is lengthen the switch cord. I didn't hear you say what the angle size was, but something like this, I would use at least 4".
Dude all I want is someone to hoist increasing weight till that thing brakes.
I always do the bounce test. Lift that block 6 inches then stand on it and jump up and down a little at first. If it breaks then it hasn't far to go. I'm actually going to make a track tomorrow out of c section.
Cool!
Hey bare in mind the max load of the straps you are rigging with and don't get crazy with putting stuff over your office.
You will end up with a couple thousand pounds sitting on your ceiling 😁 LOL!
What a great setup....genius!
Sure beats carrying stuff up the ladder!
Very nice and the sandwiched ply I believe is plenty strong for what you are doing. Steel would be overkill.
That explains all of the metal beams in use worldwide..
You should put a bigger cable on your ceiling winch because putting a bigger cable on your ceiling winch is a good idea
Chappy, this was a really great, informative and pleasant to watch video. You were telling us, without wasting our time, how you were doing your project and that some of your plans were just in your head. Oops! I got the beam turned around. No problem. Fade out...Fade in back to work. I am so FED UP with TH-camrs who make "help" videos just so they can hear themselves talk. First, it's, "Let's get started"! and then every second or third sentence has at lease one, "as you can see" or "I'm just going to". If it's a 10 year old kid doing a "Make your own slime" video, that's one thing but the adults drive me crazy. I look forward to watching more of your videos. You are doing it the right way!
Great to hear my editing works out well. I find myself rambling on a fair bit but try to edit that down to just the useful bits. I appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching!
yea man...waiting for the 1000# lift...
Omg, you should have just used unistrut channel.
I had an idea of using a barn door track and wheel asm.they are rated at 300 lbs.
Yeah, that might work well.
Nice vid
where did you buy the ball bearings?link?thanks
Bought them on Amazon. Just search for roller skate bearings.
My Italian isn't good but that looks like it will work.
@@ChappysGarage 😂👍thanks
For the sake of your grand kids (you have a date with Darwin) remove that toothpick and have someone install a properly supported metal beam.
Great job Doug!
Thanks, it has already been useful.
Nicely done. Question for you, were you able to extend the power or control cords? Recently purchased a hoist and have the same issue
I extended the control cable which was fairly easy. I have not needed to extend the power but honestly an extension cord would work for that.
@@ChappysGarage Could you please explain in detail how you extended the remote control cord (e.g., type of cord used, which end was extended, etc.). Thank you.
what was size and thickness of angle iron?
Did you put a stop at either end so it can't just roll off the end of the track?
Yes, I screwed a block of wood as a stop on each end.
Temporary piece of plywood over window for oops..
Cap on end of rail so hoist won’t drop in your lap.
Should try just left your car !
Like the idea of roller in y direction. How about make in X direction too?
XYZ is awsome ?
Uh... how much weight can that ceiling hold?
I like what you did but I hope you've put stops at each end of the track, so the hoist won;t accidentally come off. I didn't see any.
Yes, stops on both ends. Also, since shooting the video I have added a chain that is just a little shorter than the power cord. Prevents the cord from being yanked and gives me something to pull the trolley back with.
AND PERSONALLY, I WOULD HAVE USED STEEL FOR THE BUILD
Number one😎
and i thought i needed a ipe 80 beam for lifting my hand tools lol (im handycapped atm)
Note to self...do not put the track inline with a window
Pretty nice job on the trolley lift but get rid of that harbor freight made in china junk!
The first one I bought started smoking right out of the factory sealed retail box, and the second one lasted 3 months even following all of their do's and dont's.
hey chappy...just watched this build...not bad, won't critique too bad....however
you made a comment about nuts/hardware ...."nothing is in its right place"..."and nobody at the store GIVES A DAMN"!!
piss off jack-wagon!!!
I work at the big box store....and I could/have spent my entire shift trying to reorganize the MANY items that customers are too lazy and rude to put back in the right spot!! believe me I've tried!!! then I am interrupted by all the lazy and rude customers who can't find the crap themselves so I CANT reorganize said stuff!
you give it a try!
WHY ARE YOU BLAMING HARBOR FREIGHT????.......THATS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD HAVE CONSIDERED BEFORE HAND
mike mcgln
Trump probably isn’t his president?
And he doesn’t take in consideration one is supposed to be standing by the motor for safety. In this case, not underneath item lifted.
Nobody in their right mind would keep some of the shit that you have!!
Who said I was in my right mind?!?
Good morning Namst salam wolko wellcom to you I am leaving on the Kathmandu Nepal
I BET IT CAN'T PICK UP MY X WIFE.
wood is great for many things, but not this. Sorry but woood is a very poor material choice. use steel or risk injury.
There's an elevator youtube video. Cost $175 bucks. Put it for that little roof.
Perhaps you can do it cheaper.
You-Tube Junkie
Link to video you’re speaking of???
I own a datsun 😂
omg just use steel and welding instead , this isnt task for the wood call the steel !