Attack On Titan Chapter 139 Is Awful And Makes No Sense! (Rant) Complete Breakdown
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- Hey everyone in this video I'm joined by my friend Sala as we discuss the last chapter of Attack on Titan. We give our thoughts on the chapter and explain why we didn't like it and the various problems and more importantly the series ramifications and retcons that are littered throughout the chapter. All in all we still love Attack on Titan and it will always have a special place in our hearts. Hope you guys enjoy and don't forget to like and subscribe :)
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Attack On 80% Titan. Eren: "I keep moving forward. Until 80% of my enemies are destroyed"
Lmfaoo!!
Eren got a B- on his own assignment
In the pilot of Snk, A character said he will exterminate 80% of humanity, and it dates since 2008.
Everything was planned but he made his conclusion badly. Moreover in the interview, he regrets the passage with Armin, but not the Eren-Mikasa relationship. (We don't have the whole interview)
Are you talking about the one-shot that came out in 2006, because no where in the one-shot does it say anything about killing 80% of humanity. Also nothing attack on Titan related came out in 2008, the first chapter came out 2009. I’m posting a vid tomorrow ranting on Mikasa and Erens failed romance and I literally use isayama’s own words that state he never intended for the whole eren Mikasa romance. I can’t wait for the whole interview to come out it will be very interesting
@@broly1284 He may have said it in the pilot but not in the manga so it doesn't really matter because it still doesn't make sense.
I'd just like to say for the record - Eren Yeager was only in the manga ch 1 - 131. He got replaced by his long lost twin brother, Aaron Yogurt, that we didn't know about ch 132-139. Eren is a top tier S class character. Aaron is a fraud.
Nothing but facts!
Lmao
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@Eren Jaeger It started on reddit. If you search it, it'll be an edit of the table scene with Eren holding yogurt. Aaron is basically Walmart's 35% less sugar version of Eren
Dude shut up ! Aaron is the true chad. He caught a fish and was truly free.
From Shakespearean level writing to elementry school happy land crayon writting. Lol
Lol facts
so true and sad bro....
@@Odin69 did mikasa marry jean
@@henrytownshend8862 Most likely.
He was in love with her at the end,we saw his dream and with armin and connie they were the closest to mikasa.
Aswell as the image of someone with a helmet.
Its probably jean but Isayama didnt say anything because EreMika shippers would go crazy.
it's like someone has killed iseyama and overtook his manga
Eren went from being a symbolic slave to freedom to a straight up slave to predetermination and fate. Completely removed the power from scene of Eren freeing Yimir and them being able to understand each other.
EXACTLY!
@@gracefire9067 That's a good point you raise. Here is what I think. Since Eren always wanted freedom he couldn't see Ymir suffering like that even though she was a god. So he decided to set her free . You could even use this logic when he brokedown in front of Ramzi. He hated the fact that he was going to take the freedom from the entire world but he had to do it for his own freedom and for eldia. Ymir in return saw Eren as this free man who was willing to go to great lengths to achieve freedom for him and his people. Hence she went with Eren instead of Zeke. But in the last chapter everything was retconned .
@@Odin69 fast forward a year later and you are mocking people for this claim. “Slave to freedom🤓” corny ass
Eren killed 80 percent of the world
Armin why did you do this
Eren I don't know
💀 ramzi IN heaven
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Armin: why did you kill 80% of humanity
Eren: honestly I don’t know lol I just did cuz I felt like it
Armin: oh ok cool, anyways why did you hurt Mikasa’s feelings
Eren: cuz I had to lmfao
Armin: 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@@Odin69 lmao what is this atleast give descent reason 😂 isayama
👁️ 👁️
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@@henrytownshend8862 why does that look like Bertholdt lmao
@@rickchakraborty2087 no idea haha
Just a bit of a side note:
How do you get a girl literally throwing herself at you for a decade, and still manage to die an incel?
Damn this a good question lmfao
Perhaps he felt gay until he was craving to crawl back in V the moment he was 'detached' from reality.
Be too self absorbed and emotionally unintelligent
@@taylorslade8080 eren is a dumbass
That's something, only Ymir would know...
It took ONE chapter to bring down the entire series, I can no long rewatch the anime or reread the previous chapters. We all got clowned 🤡
Lol yup this chapter was just a big April Fools joke
then theres clowns and copium tards that delusions themselves thinking this is a good ending and you just dont understand it 😂😂
@@derpynerdy6294 the amount of copium is insane
@@derpynerdy6294 Im on copium and ending was a masterpiece
yo bro pass me some more copium I ran out of it 69th time this day and a bit og hopium to for the future
@@derpynerdy6294 and 8 months later, the new pv is out, and there are still people saying it's GOOD
WOW
This Chapter is a contradiction to what we got from the past
1- Eren will continue to move forward to where?
A- Until his enemies are destroyed (100)
B- Until Mikasa kills him (139)
2- What does Eren want from the island?
A- Certain victory (134)
B- Uncertain victory (139)
3- Does Eren want to exterminate all his enemies?
A- Yes (132 and 123)
B- No, 80 percent (139)
4- Is it possible to control Ackerman's memories?
A- No (65)
B- Yes (139)
5- Does Eren know why he wants to destroy his enemies?
A- Yes (before 139)
B- No (139)
6- Who died on the spear?
A - Ymir (122)
B - The criminal Fritz (139)
7- Who are the people that Aren wants to live a long life?
A- Mikasa Armin Sasha Kone Levi Erwin Hangi Flock and Jean (130)
B- Mikasa, Armin, Cony, Levi, Jean, Rainer and Annie (139)
Potential masterpiece thrown out the window smh
Destroyed in the span of just one chapter :(
Well they were really really dragging it on and on near end of s2 through out s3
@HerrozGolden funny joke.
AoT in a nutshell lol
Ymir: "I want to know what love is, I WANT YOU TO SHOW MEEE!"
Ymir: “I love my abuser”
Mikasa: cuts off Erens head
Ymir: “ok I don’t love him anymore lol”
You did make a good point. Why wouldn't marleyans recognize these are same guys that attacked liberio.
Thank you
They probably didn't recognise Armin because he blew up everyone who saw him!
@@alexvaughan1013 but they should still know that it was armin since there’s only one person that has the power to blow up a port unless Marley and the rest of the world weren’t told who has the colossal titan
We received a dollar tree version of Eren these last chapters 😭
Straight facts, he really forgot his entire life mission this chapter 😂
Eren doesn't even SAY he's in love with Mikasa! Only that he doesn't want her to be with any other man LMAO
WHO WROTE THIS SHIT?!?
Lmao now that u mention it, wow
@@rickchakraborty2087 fun fact: Eren's last words to her personally were: "I've always hated you."
@Faith Vanwieren Isayama himself said he doesn't like the idea of childhood friends ending up together, and that Eren sees Mikasa as a mother figure to him.
@@rickchakraborty2087 but look at a fun fact, isayama is married with his childhood friend... vut u forget taht in the same interview, when eren becomes more independent, he would see her with New eyes and that exactly what happened
From what I’m seeing, Eren never shown attraction towards Mikasa. When I see what EM Stans present as “evidence”, it’s just Eren and Mikasa staring at each other like that’s going to prove something. It doesn’t even look romantic. Anyways, it’s obviously one-sided
Can we just talk about how Armin punched Eren not once, but TWICE for a girl who was more than ready to abandon him in 138? If she had run away with Eren they would’ve left Armin to deal with the Marley mess and die! 🤣🤣🤣 Armin is just as much of an incel and a simp as Eren. All hail queen Mikasa and her army of simps
Dogkasa is worst written character in aot
Reiner :thank you Eren
Udo and Zofia : bitch what
The whole Dina and Bertholt thing should have not been explained at all.
It was completely unnecessary
This twist itself was unnecessary: dina should have eaten carla just because she happened to be there as we thought pre-time skip. It wouldn't have been a plot hole either as it needed no explanation. Until post-time skip there was no mystery about it, this subplot was clear to us. But isayama decided (why?) to ruin it by adding that panel with bert first and then revealing everything at the last moment when it didn't matter anymore as it had little time to be explained and have us feel at least some kind of emotion. And now, after such a stupid twist, we have dozens of plotholes cuz eren turns out to be someone who could have:
- solved so many issues in this story,
- saved so many people: his family, comrades, friends etc.
- predicted the future and actions of everyone,
- finished everything much earlier, even before being born,
- let dina eat bertold, led grisha to her after taking the founder away and made touch his ex-wife to start the rumbling, for instance
- used the ability to control titans through time and space multiple times and so on
But no, "I'm gonna use it only to kill my closest person and ruin my entire motivation, let dina avoid bertholdt even though it could help the island a lot, blame reiner for my mother's death for no reason and also ask myself what my mum would think about the rumbling while being the reason why she can't say anything now. However, I can't make my colossal titans leave hange alone in PRESENT because this story has to have more drama" Genius!
@@annett5 it seems like Isayama wanted Eren to be connected to everything. Which is just so unnecessary as you said.
@@brandonlee2746 it was done only for adding more twists to the story, not for explaining things completely and properly, so they made sense, which isayama used to do but not post-timeskip
It’s crazy, the dislike to like ratio, you can’t express your opinions on how shitty the ending is without people catching a heart attack
OR they just disagree 🤷♀️(and i myself agree with these guys)
@@Sandra2445x and no ones stopping them, just don’t watch the video
@@SManBari ?? how are you supposed to know whether you agree or not if you don’t watch the video?
They are biased sheep
@@Sandra2445x lemme guess. Ur an eremika shippers? Lmfao
You made a 50 minute video and I don’t think you even covered half the reasons why the ending is so shit. That shows just how shit it is 😂
Omg yes! I was literally talking to my friend right after we recorded the video and we were discussing if we should do a part 2 because we missed so many things. Truly unfortunate how the ending turned out
@@Odin69 Do a part 2... or don’t, accept that the ending is garbage and move on to better manga/anime
Coming back to all the ending reaction videos after 9 months made me realize the ending wasn't dogshit, it was pure comedy.
me thinking Eren being a slave to freedom is one of the best written things of all time, only to be told that he was just a slave. And for what? To save his group of 5 friends? In the course of that leaving the entire world in destruction. Eren went from top 3 fictional characters of all time, to below D tier
I agree so much like the idea of Eren being a slave to his dream of freedom is not only tragically ironic but it follows one of the core themes of the story, that being “everyone’s gotta spend their lives drunk on something.” It was Eren’s dream he was enslaved to (or “drunk on”) for the entire story and he was the one causing his own enslavement, yet all of a sudden he’s now an actual slave to Ymir and never had any free will of his own? Horse shit. Totally ruined him
I hate how isayama suddenly chickened out! We had a final battle on top of the founder against all of the ancient titan shifters and NO ONE DIED?? Eren has now become some kind of hero and the alliance suddenly thanks him? Wtf, we could've gotten a dark ending despite the Alliance winning but everyone is so OOC
none of them died but somehow hange - levi's last and only friend - had to die for a cheap tearjerk 🤦🏻♀️ like bro how come annoying ass reiner and annie got more of a happy ending than levi.
I refuse to believe this chapter is real the real ending. It has to be a joke and the real one isn’t out yet. There are so many unanswered questions and foreshadowing that lead to nothing. It just doesn’t add up. What was the deal with Eren’s “long dream” under the tree and in chapter 1? And Ymir being in love with the king is the dumbest shit you would see in a 2 star romance anime. If she loved him why did she chose to die to the spear? What’s the deal with that giant parasite thing? It just popped out of Eren and was like “yo wussup bitches I’m here now” and then the story ends. There’s no way this is the real ending. It can’t be.
This is the end
AOT introduced a spirit world, gave eren psychic powers, had mikasa kiss a decapitated head and brought dead people back to life
And I’m wrong for saying it doesn’t make sense
Don’t worry you’re not the only one the ending left confused lol
@@Odin69 thank you, also the whole eren loving mikasa made no sense. Throughout the manga he just seems annoyed at her. Also they went wayy too far the titans capabilities
Right I never bought the whole mikasa-eren relationship, even WIT tried their best in making something happen between them in season 1-3 but it just simply wasn’t a thing
@@Odin69 it doesn’t work. Even if they wanted it to the way they designed both the characters they have no chemistry
Its not in Eren's nature to give up and die. Period! Eren fights.
The best way to describe it :
"I thought Attack on Titan was a tragedy, but now I realise it was a comedy"😭😂
Except the Levi moment , everything in this chapter was just pure comedy . It could even surpass grand blue 😂
Even the Levi moment is funny. The one who killed his squad like insects is right there celebrating with her dad lol
@@__-dq9ev the salute was great , but yeah you got a point , and Reiner sniffing letter 😂 like what happened to all of your PTSD
Also Gabi suplexing Falco was gold
Whole 139 was garbage 🗑️
Levi was the goat even in the end
The ending got changed between chapter 132 - 137. I am saying this due to the Floch and Historia's shard never being shown, the small synopsis about what Ymir wants that was shown at the Final Exhibition and the interviews from Hajime Isayama. Notice how he puts everything he always hated and despise in the final chapter not before. Why is he doing this? I see it more as him trying to say something to the readers. Hajime Isayama is a very smart and godly writer he knows what he is doing. Something really went down behind the scenes. I am curious what Hajime Isayama will say in interviews. I'll be showing the points of this down below.
1. - What is Isayama-sensei’s ideal character like? Isayama: “Someone who does not lie.” From the story’s circumstances, to “lie” means the character twisted his or her original will/resolve. I find the most appealing are those who operate according to their resolve, as well as those who, as metafiction would say, rise up against the entire world. on the contrary, I feel that characters who become pawns of the storyline are unattractive. Often, the main character will give up on their original goals due to the story’s development, so those who stand opposite of him or her can become more fascinating. imgur.com/ZvguQtz and imgur.com/RXDqZYN
2. In an interview Hajime Isayama said the show Breaking Bad is a masterpiece because it had conclusive ending yet he ends his series with an open ending, lol. imgur.com/08gFaGp
3. Hajime Isayama always said Eren thought of Mikasa as a mother figure. imgur.com/ixJvjD7
4. The Major themes like breaking the cycle and surpassing the father scrapped.
imgur.com/eDgXQN7
5. The final point is a 30 page essay on why Eren Yeager had to be the father. www.docdroid.net/zjcil1B/eren-is-the-father-theory-pdf#page=28
Yea after this chapter all I can think and really what we all thought was “The guy who wrote 139 is not the same person who wrote chapters 120,121, and 122” something for sure went down behind the scenes either his publisher or editor got involved or maybe they both did
Thanks for this.
Thanks, everyone with some brain cells knows this. Editor probably wanted that to pleasure the Japanese audience and mikasa fangirls
@@meawiyaothman7872 That's actually true. Translations of the recent interview are out - turns out all of Isayama's editors were Mikasa simps and forced Isayama to change the ending to cater to their ship. They even laughed at the Eren incel panel and one still calls Historia "Krista" even after all these years. The editors knew the ending was trash but they were willing to throw away almost 12 years of great writing for their ship. These grown as men are truly pathetic. I feel so bad for Isayama.
What’s funny is that they changed the ending for the sake of Eren and Mikasa’s relationship but indirectly ruined Mikasa’s character with this one chapter
What those last chapters showed, was that Eren died being stuck in that predestined chain. He wasn’t the catalyst behind getting rid of the Titans. It was up to Mikasa somehow (conveniently, cause of headaches??? It’s never explained in 138 or 139) knowing that his head was inside his mouth and cutting it would just get rid of ALL the Titans because that’s just how it works. Eren was turned into a big walking husk of a plot device in order to let Mikasa and Ymir complete their arcs not under his own free will.
The readon the titans ended is cuz ymirs stocholm syndrome ended
@@timgashi6988 that’s pretty dumb though. The power of love just conveniently wiped away the titans
@@superexclusive452 so whatr did u think should hve wiped out the titans
@@timgashi6988 none !
Yes, it's strange how mikasa straight away assume eren inside mouth instead of nape
I thought S4 eren was the best shonen mc like some sort of mastermind who wanted true freedom. That's why i loved S4 so much.
But chapter 139 came, the eren i liked was not a mastermind. He just gave in to fate and was putting up a tough act with empty speeches of freedom.
I swear, flochad is the only character who is loyal to paradis.
I think isayama was threatened to make this trash ending by an eremika shipper, because the ending doesn't feel like isayama's and that's the only explanation
Something definitely happened behind the scenes because the person who wrote this chapter did not write chapters 120,121, and 122
@@Odin69 ikr???
@Maddening Hustle69 believe me they are defending tf outta this ch
@Maddening Hustle69 bruh shipper eremika is mostly happy about this 🙄
Remember when Yams said that Eren saw Mikasa as a mother figure? I do...
Wait you bring up a good point. Armin literally trashed Marleys port and became the colossal before their eyes so there’s no excuse. Plot hole discovered.
OMG!! I absolutely loved your videos breaking down chapter 139
@@Odin69 omg bestie let’s be friends. That chapter was a disgrace to the writing. Isayama literally questioning our intelligence with that one
Truly unfortunate how it ended :(
@@Odin69 yeah and apparently he’s adding 10 pages when the manga comes out but I refuse to get my hopes up
There’s still a part of me that still refuses to believe that the person who wrote chapter 139 is the same person who wrote chapters 120,121, and 122
I never considered AoT a Masterpiece as many others, it has a lot of trobles, but nevertheles I will always appreciate it as one of the best Anime/Manga of our generation, one who broke the frontier of our community for several years and became mainstream. Having said that, let's begin the feast...
As I was reading the manga, everything fell apart after the big revelation about the origins of the Titans. The invasion to Marley was awesome, but then all the conspiracy plots were going to nowhere, Isayama was fully improvising every chapter, fouling us about this or that secret plan that was conveniently orchestrated since the begining.
It wasn't only the chapter 139, the downfall of AoT in my opiniion began at the start of the rumbling. Don't get me wrong, I still liked a lot of elements from that final arc, especially the fantastic development of Gabi's character, or the visually astonishing art of Isayama. But... while reading the last 20 chapters, I wasn't even angry at all, rather I was laughing so hard for all the cringe moments, like "yOu BeCaMe A mAss MuRdEr FoR uS, tHaNk YoU".
AoT touched multiple adult themes, but I feel we get betrayed by Isayama himself by getting the "happy ending" we never wanted in the first place: nobady dies (except Hange , but, who really cares...), everybody forgive Eren for committing genocide while they are hugging and laughing to each other, and Mikasa even gets his romantic kiss with Eren's head. xD AoT became a cow-trash shonen at that point, and you all now is true....
I would recommend it to other people? Being frank, knowing how it ended I would say no. Those last chapters changed all the meaning of the series, and all of that is pointless now. The final message was to kill everybody who thinks different from you, mutual understanding is impossible, everything is about kill or getting killed, global war is innevitable, trust no one... who cares abaout real freedom though? You will NEVER be free beacause the destiny always wins, your genalogy and family background will always suppress your individuality. Who cares about chanching the world for the better, improving the lives of four poeple for the long term? Who cares about defeating destiny and defy the impossible? It turns out, control is absolute, you are condemned to be a slave of your circumstances. So, if your personal history is already written, what's the point to even try in the first place?
It all started with Eren trying to save his people by ending war, but noooo, now he is dead, and they are all alone, without any Titans power, hated by all the world and condemned to a global war with nations with far supperior technology and mass destruction weapons. It all started with Eren trying to avenge his mother's death, his pain was his most valuable drive to succed in his monumental quest for justice, in one way or another. Basically, he couldn't undertand nor accept that such attrocity like that could happen to such an innocent woman. But it happens to be that he was the evil mastermind all allong. Ouuuuuu, what a plot twist...
He masacred 80% of the human population for what? More war, more hate, more fear, more innocent kills, more discrimination againts his kin, more nationalism/fascism to burn the land with gunpowder, rivers of blood and corpses. THAT IS GARBAGE!
At the end of the day, where is the hope for the tomorrow, were is the so anticipated "You are free now". Such an epic an compelling story about discovering the world beyond your imagination, about fighting againts all ods to liberate your country from fear and slavery, about sacrificing your wellbeing untill the last day of your life for the better good of the rest... And ALL OF THAT GET DESTROYED LIKE IT WAS NOTHING. What an anticlimactic finale! It's sad to think that all of us dedicated a lot of time, money, free time engaging with this story, this characters, this world, and now we all are equally betrayed and disappointed. I really hope the best for Isayama's next proyects, but right now I don't think I will belive in him and his storys anymore. You can agree or disagree with me, that's ok, that's fine, we all have diffrent opinions and thoughts about this, and this is mine. Only the time will tell...
Beautifully said man, you articulated your feelings very well, and yea I agree once isayama got to the rumbling the story got away from him. Just overall unfortunate how it ended.
@@Odin69 the ending of Aot " War bad " isayama fans :" holy sh*t that's deep bro"
Lmfaoo literally
I’m noticing that a majority of the vocal people who LOVED this chapter never care to explain why. I mean sure they have lots of reasons to defend it, but when it comes down to why they liked it? “Oh I understood the chapter!” ??? So I didn’t understand it because I didn’t like it??? Lol. Not everyone does this, but still I can’t help but, laugh when I’m confronted with that line for the tenth time.
Lol facts and when they do explain why they like it they say “Oh tHe SymBolYsm of ErEn TuRniNg IntO a Bird Is InCreDible, How cAn You noT unDerStanD That?”
Why I thought it was a masterpiece "only ymir knows"...
They are not even in copium they just genuinely like it like how?
I can imagine eren loving Mikasa and caring for her but in a matured way. But not like being a cry baby and not being pathetic. I am doing everything for her coz I love her and I want to protect her but how he reacted made me think he is so childish and he doesn't care about her happiness but is just obsessed with her
Eren had always childish behavior, his plan and ideology was always naive and childish. His reaction is comprehensisable, cause he was about to die, it was a time to breakdown, to say things that he wouldnt have courage to say, cause armin wouldnt know until it's late
@@leonardomatos6381 I don't agree. He was like that when he was small. Then he grew and his character developed. His behaviour in the last chapter was random
@@immafav2353 his behavior ts was childish too, his plan was childish, he wanted to everything disapear because it wasnt like armin's book, always a child
@@leonardomatos6381 good so no character development right? Even though we were shown the character development apparently that was fake and we fell for it. Such great writing right?
@@rickchakraborty2087 yeah, he had development, but his essence is still the same, mature, but very irresponsible, childish
Where is the men in black flash that wipes your memory when you need it
26:25 It's 400 million outsiders vs 1 million (2 if you're generous) islanders .
Lmfaoo! But we’re suppose to believe that Eren left Paradis in a “good” place
@@Odin69 Exactly 😂
"i kno we killed billions of ppl, but we got rid of the titans so it's cool right? i promise the titans are gone i swear, so it's all good right? like even tho most of nations and species on planet earth have been pounded into dust and lost forever? like we're cool right?"
And Paradis got nuked lmfao what comedy is this? Like of course it was to be expected but, what was achieved in the end?
Reason why series ruined : Incel eren. Ymir was in the paths for 2000 years making titans to terrorise the world all this time , because she was in love with her slave master. Ymir the founder who was meant to seek freedom entered the story said nothing Ymir left the story offscreen said nothing. Eren historia uprising relationship went in the bin . Historia asked eren about having a child because why not. Historia lied about her date of conception because why not. Eren followed historia and the farmer into the barn because why not. Zeke mentions mikisa loving him and eren thinks of historia but I’m supposed to believe eren is in love with mikisa. Real reason why eren was doing this before become a simp
Memed pigeon: Eren said I wanted this , I will not gamble paridise future. Only way to put an end to the cycle of hate is to bury those animals deep underground . What would my mum think when I kill these animals. I took Freedon away from the world in order to gain my own. I was born this way . If someone steals ppl freedom I won’t hesitate To take theirs . If we kill everyone beyond these walls will we be free. When I found out humanity lived beyond the walls I was so disappointed. I will keep moving forward until I kill my enemies . Ill gladly give up my life but I refuse to sacrifice historia (bear in mind that’s all he would say after the timeskip)Tatakae .The rumbling will not stop it will crush everyone and lands beyond paridise . Eren also said in season 1 a powerful enemy will not make humanity units . Serie ruined: Turns out eren acc killed his mum because it wasn’t Bertholdt time to die alright. Now eren doesn’t really know why he did the rumbling he forgot. Eren saying to historia your the girl who saved me that day the worst girl in the world was a lie it’s acc mikisa who saved him. The unkiliable worm disappeared. Eren now gambled paridise .one of the greatest chapters in aot history when eren and zeke is in the paths and with pure willpower eren rips out of the chains and frees Ymir while she’s running because he understood her and she was waiting 2000 years for someone like him, this chapters are now jokes as mikisa the main character was acc the one who saved Ymir not eren. The final panel of a man holding his child surpassing his father saying you are free was a lie now instead we got a pigeon holding some dirty ass scarf that’s never been washed. Eren has now been reduced to a clown sister loving simps out of nowhere ,who can’t really temenber why he killed 80 percent of humanity and won’t let his stepsister mikisa move on . He has also gambled paridise future as there is now titans to protect them now further more the alliance have now admitted it thr cycle of hate won’t end until one side is completely wiped out. What this chapter has done is ruin the entire series and eren historia Ymir grisha who had absolutely no right to call eren free because he was still living in walls
The fact that you call eren a simp for lovong somebody is sad and him meeting historia or historia asking hin about a child dosent confirm eren is the dad i dont get why people just speculated eren was the dad and didnt acceot wat was given and now people who thought eren was the dather r underwhelmed
@@timgashi6988 "and didn't accept what was given"
--Every biased AoT fanboy ever
@@rickchakraborty2087 no lol, this was just overthinking by the fandom even i believed erehisu was a thing but i wasnt mad wen it wasnt
Dogkasa and eremika shippers ruined everything. They sent threats to isyama to make this cringe ship canon
For a chill looking dude Isayama sure has a fk load of darkness within him lol
Fan edits to the chapter actually save it. But I would like to an interview from Isayama... I got into the series through the anime so... I am having confidence the anime will stick the landing. Even if its copium, tweaks easily make 139 not be a dumpster fire like it is in the official release.
Yea, I also said at the end of the video that maybe when MAPPA animates this chapter maybe and big maybe but maybe I see the ending in a different light, but I just don’t see how animating it and tweaking a couple stuff will save the ending, but we can only hope :)
@@Odin69 Changing Ymir's motivation for maintaining the curse, not having Eren be a slave and just completely cut the bullshit that he killed his own mother. All of it felt for shock value but was so painfully written. It always makes me laugh when Isayama criticized Game of Thrones' ending on to write an ending borderline worse!
Truly unfortunate how this masterpiece of a manga is now a victim to one of the worst endings ever :(
The author said he had changed the ending a few different times . I wonder what the other endings were
And why he chose this forsaken ending.
@@nephtalie5889 to make a potential sequel and milk that money 🤑🤑
Not a big fan of the whole woo woo stuff with the Paths, Ymir, time traveling...like all of that ruined the realism in the first 3 seasons for me. In my head cannon, the ending is the ending of season 3 with them at the sea. I'm okay with that, because afterwards it just gets way too messy.
great content bro 💪
Appreciate it :)
"I wish I had the founding titan so I could know the future" xD
To make it simple, AOT failed because they did not kill all the enemies and eren died for a temporary peace, Akame ga Kill is a success because they killed all the enemies and take over to rule (the deaths of the mc's isnt wasted on something "temporary")
I liked how the ending basically revealed Eren as a pathetic character.
The best thing to do is to ignore chapter 139 and look for fan-made endings that make sense. It would make more sense that eren did the rumbling to protect his daughter and it would make more sense for him to complete it but at the cost of his friends.
Yes!
@@henrytownshend8862 I'm glad you think so sorry for the late response.
Definitely my biggest concern with the ending is that, after like 30 chapters framing Eren and the Yeagerists as villains and having a (seemingly) clear stance against racism, fascism and obviously genocide, in THE LAST GODDAMN CHAPTER it's like "nah they were not really bad tho". I honestly don't know if it was intentional or if he just screwed up big time
Its were bad and now we're good
i bet isayama thinks something like "haha i got them all! they took my story seriously and i trolled them good! hahahahaha"... but like this dude doesn't realize he would have been heralded as the goat... he threw away the chance to make history and for his work to become a genre-defining and genre-defying classic. i lost respect for that man.
I literally regarded him as one of the greatest writers ever not just manga writers but actually all time ever, just to see him end it like this is just sad honestly :(
@@Odin69 me too man, i thought i was watching greatness unfold. ppl would tell me i was nuts to rave about an anime until i showed them the show, and by mid-first season everybody realizes that this storytelling is on another level, becuz the world-building is incredible, the thematic development is so deep, the characters are all properly fleshed-out and compelling and relatable, and most important for me was that the internal logic of the fantasy narrative world was always consistent... the plot always worked and never contradicted itself. i learned to feel like i could trust AoT, like there were never ever asspulls and everything felt important. isayama convinced me to take his story seriously and eventually i did. when eren finally matured and forgave reiner becuz he realized that they were really the same and they both had to answer to fate, at about that point i thought i was watching real life... everything was so layered, and so tight, and so profound. the action was amazing and my curiosity and tension was always eventually satisfied. and then eren manages to free the God of the Eldians Ymir, in a completely convincing way by being able to relate to the fact that she also felt trapped and enslaved... and at this point my mind is blown... most profound shit ever... Eren earns the Divine Right of Kings and becomes God Emperor of the Eldians, and in a completely organic and justified way. And then the Rumbling itself forces the reader to choose if they side with Eren or if he has gone too far, and it's difficult to deny Eren becuz everything he did was true and honest, he only became an extremist due to the virtues you admired him for throughout the entire story.. it was the world that changed, not eren. all of eren's courage, stubborness, and righteousness suddenly came into contact with actual reality after the timeskip, and would the world be ready to confront Eren Yeager? Eren never once hesitated to threw himself into war against man-eating Titans, and now he's faced with human beings who threaten him and his people with slavery and death, and the viewer is supposed to judge Eren for facing this head-on and rising to the occasion? No. Eren Yeager chooses to embrace his destiny as the Attack Titan. Eren Yeager keeps moving forward until all his enemies are destroyed, just like he promised us since the beginning and just as he convinced us he should.
could have been one of the greatest stories ever written man... this shit rly hurt me. i hope isayama realizes how badly he fucked up.
Beautifully said man and all that went away in the span of one chapter. 😔
@@Odin69 i never tuned into the fanbase until now but i'm glad that at least other ppl felt the same way as i did
I do too considering his worth 45 million dollars and couldn't stick the landing. What I think is the story needed more panels for the end! You easily fix the chapter by having Eren say he wanted to level the world to destroy his enemies and truly be free and even if Armin/Co stopped him they can set up a path of peace. Which I believe Isayama should have kept the number of people killed by the rumbling vague, “Most of humanity” rather than “80 percent”. Additionally, Ymir did not control Eren and that she waited 2000 years because no one showed her how to be free. I think Ymir wanted a human bond rather than loving Fritz; hell she WANTED to be loved rather than loving Fritz. She was a slave and chooses to support Eren due to his actions. No one in 2000 years had his resolve. In the end, Eren’s actions marked he was free and even though he was stopped, he is satisfied with what he did and does not regret it. I think when Armin hits him should be when he says I don’t know why I did the rumbling and Armin demands an answer. I also think in regards to Mikasa, Eren could say he wished he treated her better but believes when he is dead she can finally let go of the person who did not give her what she deserved; respect and love. Armin admits he never truly understood Eren and expresses he will stop him but manages to say goodbye, which Eren reciprocates with a hug. When Armin returns, the worm is shown dying as Mikasa emerges from Eren’s falling colossal. I think there should be a moment where Reiner is shown BEFORE THIS fighting off against the worm and right before it dies, mortally wounds him during the struggle. Once it dies, none of the titanized people return, we only see smoke along with the colossal titans vanishing, leaving just Mikasa, Armin, Levi, Falco, Pieck, Annie. I think the warriors grieve over Reiner and Gabi while Mikasa and Armin grieve the loss of Eren, Jean, and Connie. Levi still has his badass line and we see the survey corps (that was easily the best part of the original). The Marleyan soldiers advance, we get the whole Trost arc ode but Armin says it was Eldians who killed the founder and the curse is broken with the Founder’s death. They lay down their arms and we get an overview of the destroyed world and Eldians truly safe. I’m fine with the idea of the Alliance having to Parley with the remaining Eldians, which would lead to Mikasa at Eren’s grave. She is mourning but smiles, saying thank you Eren for wrapping me in this scarf and giving me a reason to live. She sees birds over head flying by. What we see next is Eren in a slowly crumbling paths, looking into the light and he has a monologue talking about how the hallu-worm functioned and bound Ymir to the curse. As Paths falls, Eren sees Ymir in the light going through her life until she is an infant. Eren holds the child as it fades along with him and says you are free, which we see in conjunction with Grisha saying that to him too. End.
I feel like the deaths of the fallen scouts were in vein since Paradis got bombed decades later.
The circus is starting next week.
the rumbling just started and from now on, I'm just gonna watch it like an average power fantasy isekai.
still hoping they would change the ending in the anime.
I'm not emotionally involved in the show anymore and I'm not trying to make fun of it.
the worst part for me is gonna be when hange dies.
it's such a pointless death.
it literally breaks my heart more than the ending, that was completely unnecessary.
based odin.
walmar lelouch hahaha
it was a great collaboration.
karl frizt eren ymir misaka drama
is like some weird fetish film in HH .
:)
What really bugs me is WHY DID THE WORM THINGY DIE WHEN EREN DIED? they were not connected anymore and it was doing stuff on its own. What happened to it? What does Mikasa has to do with the worm dying? 👁👄👁
They just tried too hard to make Mikasa special. First with the Ackerman blood, then with the Azumabito and now Ymir likes her? I think Sasha brought more to the table than Mikasa being super princess but Ok.
Wasn’t the worn a parasite? Once the host is dead the parasite dies too.
Wasn’t exactly a “parasite” in the sense of the word. But it is what gave Ymir her powers and in 138 it clearly acts on its own so that’s why it disappearing is odd
I still tripping off that that's crazy
Dont the yeagerist take over the island wouldn't they kill the queen or whatever
honestly I didn't like the introduction of time manipulation in chapter 121, that's just me but there was so many directions the story could of gone
So, you can choose from two characters:
1)Has complex, twisted motivation, that can be argued to be good AND bad, has deep desires and motivations that explain his actions from the start. Living conflicted person, representation of many phylosophical questions: means justify causes, trolley problem etc.
2)Complete psycho, doesn't know wtf he is doing, controlled by others the whole time.
Choose wisely
18:42 IN NOT THE ONLY ONE MOMENT EREN SHOW LOVE TO MIKASA, AFTER HE TALK TO RAMIS HE ASK A MIKASA WHAT HE IS FOR HER FAMILY OR SOMETHING, BUT THAT LOVE IS NOT SHOW TO MUCH ON THE MANGA/ANIME
With this i kind of feel like the author is trying to do a Game of Thrones ending to his show, if this source material gets adapted then it definitely will happen when it gets animated...
Falco is chadder than Floch because he made it to the last chapter and didn't get his charcter destroyed
31:50 Poor odin predicted the loki tv show
Calling eren Walmart lelouch is an insult to Walmarts more like dollar tree lelouch
Bro the fan fiction is better honestly. Like there is a youtuber creater called yuma who wrote one . 100 times better
I'm waiting for #Aotnorequiem, do you know about it?
Yes, I’ll be making videos about it. I can’t wait!
Hey guys if you want a story like this done right, look up Linked Horizon's other set of works on Sound Horizon, specifically Moira. It filled my void, perhaps it can fill yours.
There wasnt even one more insight into his own thought processes . There is no questioning when he can look at any direction he walks but he walks in a circle and insted of making a decision he does it JUST CAUSE . he was literally an empty head a chicken with a cut off head running in a circle but moving forward . A guy who fights AGAINST his will for freedom and a artificial ideal . To your friend in the video . It wouldnt have been bad if he would have been a softie he was constantly portrayed as physicly weaker as mikasa too and no one can tell me that you get such a bad inferiority complex that you start treat mikasa the way he did but still somehow loved her ??? he was PORTRAYEd as someone who doesnt like to be belittled by what is completely fine for a man of his age if he could and did take that step to kill so many people why coudnt he think ONCE that he should tell her considering they could have died in every single scout mission that would take place . All these people are on his kill count no one elses . But insted of finishing what he started or atleast decimate the "enemy" so much that they couldnt even dare coming over in half a millenia but left the general nature in its place so to not fuckin send the planet into a fuckin famine and nearly ruin the entire ecosystem what basicly endorses killing his people and ANY life one way or the other further down the line too . Scenes where eren talks to people after the time skip are now completely meaningless and are actually borderline psychotic on erens part . Worst of all of this is that Ymir is an actual joke the real protagonist and antagonist on top of that . she literally removed all the titan powers once she got over her stokholm syndrome with chaD fritz . IF eren would know he has to play after her rules why would he do it so stupendously like we have seen . Sure you are fine with your friends killing you because of your stupid deal with ymir but why the fuck then doing just a random kill a view here and there and leave every single fuck in your home in a totalitarian extremism group YOU MADE you stupid fuckin retared piss ant you had access to path since fuckin 3 years and you couldnt come up with FUCKIN ANYTHING ? You had the power of a all seeing god that doesnt know the concept of time either when you where with ymir but why does it matter that he reconstucts his mothers death if there actually should be multiple timelines to see and a solution to this problem where everyone can benefit in izayama you absolute fuckin dunkey because it wouldnt be a fuckin asspull right ???! A nuclear Deterent of the cost of ymirs suffering is better then literally any decision this fuck wit had done the last 2 arcs you knew your brothers plan that was clearly fuckin better then yours comparing what would have happened with ymir gettting cucked and no titans to be there to cause more harm either anymore . Armin the most altruistic character in this shit show thanking eren was the last nail in this coffin the rest of the chapter just shovels actual human waste over the coffin to make it have a finished look .
Excuse me? Levi had the best ending? Hell no, Levi should have died when Zeke made his squad transform. Levi didn’t do anything after anyway and his death would have been way more powerful. Especially his ending scene, when saluting to his fallen comrades and squad members was SO dumb, because Annie (who’s responsible for at least killing the half the guys that were shown) is literally hugging her dad in the background. You can’t convince me that this was the goal the survey corps was fighting for. I would even go as far and argue that Erwin would have been probably on Erens side, If he learned about the world outside the walls lol
His ending was the best out of any character in ch139
Keep bitching about even the good things
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 Yea.. right.. "The good things" lol If this is considered to be a "good" ending by you, I dont know what to tell you. Even Levi dying in Zekes trap would have been better than this fairytale happy end ass garbage. Now miss me.
@@prettyboyg1278 your missed
@@akhandtripathipyz9888Levi wants to protect a world that hates Paradis. The remaining 20% bombed Paradis. That's why his salute is useless
yams killing off hange - levi's last friend - was so fcked up esp bc whack ass reiner and annie got a happy ending
I never liked Eremika because of how toxic it truly was. I will admit that I was guilty of shipping Eren x Levi or Eren x Historia but then I decided that Eren's true love was freedom.
Worst ending ever 💔 about Eren too bad and ending make no sense 😭I wish we get some good news in last volume 34 🥺
I feel like isayama changed the ending because everyone was finding out and theorizing the ending so he made a last sec switch and he was rushed i was disappointed but it is what it is i hope the anime explains everything that the manga didn't.
The only thing I really enjoyed about the ending was that we got memes out of it.
The bird memes are the funniest ones 😂
The memes kinda make up for the trash ending 🤣
I diagnose you with " yOu DiDn'T unDerStaNd tHe sTorY"
The anime has caught up and people are loving how it ended.
Because they forgot the main story points because s4 aired for 3 years and 80 percent of the aot fandom are casual watchers. Great animation= great ending for them
@@sangeetakolase2139 I watched everything up to the last part of the final season twice now, and just yesterday finished the re-watch together with the ending, and imo apart from the lack of a more clear statement on what motivation Eren actually had at the very end and how much Ymir had a hand in the outcome, the ending was near perfect
@@Au_Ra804Eren not having a clearly defined motivation a major flaw when that motivation is why literally everything in the story happened the way it did. Ymir loving fritz is inconsistent with previous scenes and Ymir to Mikasa is a false parallel.
I totally approve this video
Thanks :)
@@Odin69 you had the balls to say it tbh i hate the way the mangaka put on a ship for nearly 7 years just to let it sink like it meant nothing same with animes like bleach i think the editors do be pushing the mangaka to do shit and end their shit too early disappointing
Truly unfortunate how it ended :(
@@Odin69 i honestly feel so bad for Mikasa i knows she's just a manga character but lf mangaka got us emotional hook to them now we are dead with them lol
keep making those video btw i like your honest opinion look forward to your future upload 👌✨
"I did a bad in your name so that you can be a hero" is such a bad argument in any media. Like the world already has tons of problems, if you want to make someone a hero just help them solve some, you don't need to do MORE bad. this while idea that Eren murdering millions in the name of Paradis will make Paradis look good is so ludicrous.
How we're told ANY diplomacy is impossible but once we commit genocide, Armin can nat20 Charisma enemy armies WHO KNOW WHO HE IS with a ludicrous claim that nobody saw. Like in "Lelouch of the Rebellion" which Aot basically copied, there were cameras, there were live broadcasts, but who the f would believe that the ex-Colossal titan killed his bff just to be nice to humanity, because he said so?
Next month Isayama will add few new pages to Aot and change the ending
The ending That he had originally planned
He only published part of chapter 139 but he’s going to do everything all over with two extra chapters with chapter 138 and chapter 139. Isayama is doing an upcoming interview too if you want I can send you the link of the video of confirming those things. Aot chapter 139 will be changed. Isayama is still in the process of making the final panel of Eren being alive and with his child.
Yea I heard about that, it’ll be good to see Isayama’s side of it(chapter 139). The Isayama cut :)
@@Odin69 I’m gonna be so excited when it comes out the true ending explaining everything.
Can you send the link?
@@milesyoungblood7173 yeah ill send it to you
@@Odin69 the odin cut
"When I heard c139 leaks, l was so disappointed. "
Lmfaoo!
Where tf in the chapter did it say that Ymir manipulated or was implied that she manipulated him.
Holy crap bro, even the people that like this chapter know that Eren was being manipulated by Ymir, where do you think the whole “Eren was a slave to destiny this whole time” is coming from its implied in the conversation with Armin after Eren tells him that Ymir was in love with king Fritz
Nothing but respect to Isayama. While a lot of fans were disappointed with is ending and pleading for an anime original ending but my dude doubled down. He tweaked the ending just to double down on his original ending.
Hagjme Isayama is the Todd Howard of mangakas, hope that failed internet cafe owner never makes a shitty manga ever again!
I didn't finish the video, but i would like to leave here some of my problems with the last chapters.
The whole Reiner arc is basically thrown away in the end.
The whole final arc being so rushed, we never got any explanation to a lot of things and some plot points were never touched again.
The Eren/Armin/Mikasa thing, "Thank you, Eren".
Chapter 122 being basically thrown in the trash just because.
So many characters that just pop out of the story as if it was nothing. Some of them being relatively important. The Tybur family, Galliard, Yelena, etc.
There's more problems for me, but there are too many of them to talk here. Overall, it's just a dissapointment
Yea I agree with you ESPECIALLY on how chapter 122 gets thrown out the window. That was one of my biggest gripes with this chapter
So, in summary, Eren Yeager is a genocidal maniac who achieved nothing and died an incel.
Armin: Eren why did you do the rumbling
Eren: to be honest idk lol I did it just because
attack on titan was just a anime about incels
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Fun fact : some fans actually like this, ikr.
AOT revolves around Eren’s 3 goals. His 1st goal was to eradicate all the titans which he achieved by moving forward until Mikasa could choose to kill him and grant Ymir’s freedom. His 2nd goal was to give Paradis Island a fighting chance in a world that will always be in conflict. He does this through the rumbling (which also helps in achieving the 1st goal). By destroying 80% of the world, he is able to bolster his friends as the heroes of humanity as well as give enough time to Paradis Island to build up its military. His 3rd goal was to get freedom. He wonders in the last chapter why he always had this drive towards freedom; ultimately, he doesn’t really have an answer. The Grisha panel shows that he was just born that way. He was entitled with his name and freedom since birth. That’s why even though Eren was always enslaved by the fate bestowed by Ymir, he still sought freedom and “scenery.” It’s tragic, but through his death, he was able to achieve just that. AOT ended with Eren achieving his dreams. If you don’t understand the story then that is on you
The only goal eren completed was destroying the Titans but the thing about moving forward till Mikasa kills him so that Ymir can move forward is blatant retconning of the story and erens motivation if you don’t see that you either forgot or started reading around chapter 137. If you actually think that Eren gave paradis a fighting chance you’re either lying to yourself or being intellectually dishonest. Lol eren literally explains in chapter 1 and throughout the story the desire for his freedom and him achieving that through death??? Lmfaoo he explains through out the story that he’s special for being born in this world and expresses his desire to live I mean he even says that he doesn’t want to die in this chapter but ok I guess ThAt lAsT pAnEl iS sUppOse tO rEprEseNt His FreEdOm
@@Odin69 so what's your definition of freedom, in your view and for eren? He always said he wanted freedom, but what is freedom to him?
Erens idea of freedom is stated specifically in chapters 1 and 90 in which he desires to kill all his enemies in order for him and his friends to live peaceful lives he also states specifically in chapters 1 and 5 that he wishes to travel to the outside world thinking it would give him freedom as opposed to being “locked up” inside the walls this is also stated in chapter 90. And you can find many examples of eren saying these things are goals in order to find his freedom but those specific chapters I listed are where those ideas are first brought up concretely and stated to the reader
The guys who think eren's character is ruined by the ending of aot then my friend u never really understood the character of eren
Wait a minute, I’m guessing you saw the whole video and heard all my points on why Erens character was ruined, I’m also guessing you saw other videos of people breaking down why Erens character was ruined but you still decided to comment “u never really understood the character of eren” my friend I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn’t even read chapter 139 and just saw the pictures or you’re lying to yourself and don’t want to accept that this is the horrible ending we got. Either way you gotta reread chapter 139 again and if you still think Erens character wasn’t ruined then respectfully I’m sorry for you
Are you a clown?
The real Eren was in chapter 1 - 129, 132 - 139 He never talked to Historia it was just his long lost twin diablo that simps for Historia instead of the real important main character of the entire series Mikasa.
How is it that you guys nor the people in these comments understand the fact that not every single human being thinks with 100% logic and direction. If you want a story to make perfect sense and be completely cathartic, you don’t like art. You like math class.
Lol no I just don’t like bad writing. I also say explain in my most recent video that if Eren was indeed not thinking straight or logical then it would have to established beforehand that he is indeed not thinking straight or logical but that isn’t the case as I explain
You saying removing chapter 138 wouldn’t change a thing for Mikasa’s character arc just show you don’t really care to understand her character. That “dream” is not only a goodbye on Eren’s part. It gets to show Mikasa that Eren’s death is unavoidable. Even if they were to act on their most selfish desires and escape everything and everyone, Eren only has four years to live.
Also, if you really pay attention to chapter 138 it clearly shows Mikasa is not getting over Eren. In their “dream”, when Eren tells her that once he is dead she must forget about him, her answer is: “I can’t” and puts the scarf back on. That just shows that no, she won’t let go of her love, but she still chose to kill Eren for the good of humanity. And that’s why her choice had an impact on Ymir. Despite her undying love, she makes the CHOICE (hence, she’s free) to kill him. At the end Mikasa is not a parallel to Ymir but a foil to her.
I don’t know why the fact that she still mourns him three years later is controversial. We see her at his grave on the third anniversary of his death. I’d say it’s pretty normal that she’s there. Besides, three years is nothing when you lose a loved one, and considering she was the one to kill him makes it all the more tragic. I don’t think she’s ever going to forget him, but she WILL carry on with her life.
Again the point of 138 was to show that she was finally free of the love that bound her to eren by committing a sacrifice of her love by killing him. Her saying that she can’t forget him and then the 3 year time skip where we see her still miserable about his death while still wearing that scarf just makes her character worse if anything, I’d expect to see something this depressing in a show like 13 reasons why or riverdale lol. her character literally revolves around eren and only eren. In my latest video I also break down their phony “romance” which makes saying her at the end of 139 even worse. Yes she’s a direct parallel to Ymir both are bound by love and yes she would’ve been a foil to Ymir if she wasn’t depressed and miserable at the end of 138 but since she is and she’s still bound to her love of him she’s just like Ymir since she also couldn’t let go of her love of king fritz. Lastly why did you like your own comment lol
I liked the ending. Just my opinion and that’s ok. You can have your opinion and that’s ok. What’s not ok is for the fans to attack and harass the writer. It just puts pressure on him and affect mental health and make him feel like shit. Despite what anyone thinks, he’s a talented writer. There’s plenty of authors that have written works that not everyone likes but we don’t bash them. Let’s just be respectful and acknowledge that Isayama put his heart into this work of art regardless of how people might take the ending. That in itself is him being vulnerable and taking a risk. Let’s treat him and fellow fans with respect and love for a series we are passionate about! ❤️
Yea I agree that isayama should not be getting harassed whatsoever and the people who do that are wack
I am Japanese
You guys ... I don't think you understand the depth of attack on Titan Don't say it doesn't make sense if you don't understand it
Yeah, the depth of comedy and clownrey. This manga is garbage lol
Lmfaoo!
I agree. It’s ok not to like the ending, but there are a lot of things some people call plot holes that can be answered with the information given by the manga. Not everything has to be spelled out. I just feel like a lot of people was reading the manga with a really distorted perspective.
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@@fabilys5850 "Not everything has to be spelled out" that doesn't justify bad writing.
I'm just going to leave this here.
I'm satisfied with the way Isayama ended Attack on Titan. The things that we needed and all the things Isayama has been building up all cultivated into this singular moment.
Such as Ymir. What was her purpose ? What did she really want ? Simple. To break free of her love for King Fritz. And of course, people took this as Isayama saying that being in a Stockholm Syndrome relationship is real love, and it really isn't that at all. In fact, in the very panel we got Eren saying this, does it look like it's supposed to be the conventional idea of love ? Of course not. The fact that Ymir chose Eren and made him go through all of this should probably show you Ymir's love for King Fritz isn't one that he is trying to paint as romantic. You cannot say Isayama didn't tell us what her whole deal was. Now, is it satisfying ? That's the subjective part. But it does make sense.
Next up; the way Eren acted in this chapter making all of his decisions worthless. Now then. Isayama has again, laid it on very, very thick as to how the AOT universe works and specifically its attitude to time and the concept of fate. Meaning that things were going to happen one way and always will. This means the claim that Eren intentionally lead Dina to eat his mother. No. He is doing what the laws of the universe demand. I think the main frustrations that come from fans with Eren is because they feel like he did all of this for nothing. On the contrary, Eren doing this has been the point of his character since Day 1. He is essentially the only one cursed to know the laws of the universe and is constantly telling himself he is free in a world where freedom doesn't exist. Eren being Ymir's pawn isn't a case of character assassination, because Eren's actions were never his own in the first place. He has always been destined to become the devil of this world. That's what so beautifully tragic about his character here. It's essentially him coming to terms with this and realising he might be able to change things, but he can make sure the people he loves are better off than him.
Another part is people are calling him a simp for Mikasa and that's all he ever was. Because of course they are. But here's the thing, Eren Jaeger is a 19 year old teen. People always projected this idea onto Eren that he was so cool and he was gonna be the coolest guy who wasn't afraid of anything. But it simply isn't Eren. He isn't this unfeeling, cold God that everyone thought he was. Yes, he puts on a good game face, I'll give you that. But it's been clear since Day 1 that Eren would never kill his friends or anything of the sort. Literally everything he has done has been for their sake and it makes his character even easier to understand than he was before. And people are saying he's a terrible MC because he dared have a breakdown of the thought of leaving everyone he has ever loved and not wanting to die ? He isn't a fucking robot. He is barely in his 20s, for fuck sake. Of course he's going to freak out.
So Eren is like a character in a videogame that has become aware of his existence. He knows what his purpose is and he knows he can't fight it. But he is going to make sure that he leaves the world better for his loved ones. That isn't character assassination. That's ALWAYS been Eren Jaeger.
Now for the state of Parardis and how apparently The Rumbling failing makes Paradis a bigger target. Here's the thing, that was addressed. But literally 80% of the global population are flattened viscera pancakes and forests and ecosystems are now salads. Who is going to attack Paradis and with what ? There is nothing that can touch Paradis for generations to come. And even with this, the island had rallied in Eren's name and are fully prepared to protect it. Like, we seen the beginnings of Paradis and what is going to happen to it and it's literally covered in devoted soldiers with rifles. If that is so soon after the Rumbling, what are they going to have in generations ? And apparently people are mad because Isayama didn't solve hatred ? Like, you had one half of people wishing for literally everyone's death and the other side for World Peace to be achieved. Did it never occur to anyone that both of these endings are incredibly predictable and also very unrealistic ? Of course the story is going to end saying it's human nature for violence to always be there and for them to fight until the end of time. And it also leaves us with the idea of peace MIGHT happen and it might not. That is literally the best possible scenario for a story like this and it saves it from either stupid extreme. The heroes who saved the world might end up reuniting with Paradis and saving it once and for all. They could also easily be killed the moment we left them. It's up to us to decide if they manage it or not. But we will never know if they betrayed their nation for nothing and all of it was for not. That shit is incredibly bittersweet and consistent with the tone. The series's phrase is literally "the world is cruel, but also beautiful." What else could you want ?
And finally, the final panel. I don't really know what to say here. It's to close Eren and Mikasa's bond once and for all with some harmless symbolism. Does that mean Mikasa hasn't developed? Hell no. The fact that Mikasa Ackerman was the one to kill Eren Jaeger is evidence enough that she has made major steps for her character. And no, her crying over him isn't character assassination either. It's literally the fact she knew this guy all her life and he had an impact on her. That isn't something that just leaves you when it comes to losing someone you love. But she is managing to live her life without Eren. She can do whatever she sets her mind to. And in the end, that's all what Eren wanted.
In conclusion, you don't have it like the ending, or Attack on Titan as a whole. But. to say that it doesn't make sense or that Isayama ruined his own manga ? I'm sorry, that just isn't the case. It might not be what you wanted, but it's what makes sense.
@@BollaBubble Eren was only lying when he said he thought that Mikasa was a slave and that he always hated her. And for beating the shit out of Armin. Everything else, Eren had to do to get to where he needed to.
Ymir was only a child, younger than Eren when King Fritz forced himself on her. It's not a case of being dumb, it's a case of the mind protecting itself and seeing the only type of affection she ever got had to be real, and therefore was something worth staying for, even though a small part of her wanted to be free of it. It's actual human psychology and a thing that happens, barring the stuff for the story.
Mikasa is obsessed with Eren ? She spent 13 years of her life with him and has been through a lot with him too. That type of attachment doesn't just go away. If your dad died, would you throw away all of your photos of him even 3 years later and forget about him totally ? Of course you wouldn't. Mikasa mourning Eren and remembering him isn't the same as being obsessed.
And actually, if you remember right, the Attack Titan's power was it can see the memories of future holders, meaning Grisha could see Eren's, but Eren is the last holder of the Attack Titan, meaning he doesn't have any to see. Even with this, Eren answered all of Armin's questions well and why he did what he did. If you're referring to when he said he doesn't know why he did the Rumbling, he was meaning he doesn't know why he was born the way he was, for such a strong desire for freedom, as evidenced with the imagery of his birth as he said this. Eren knows WHY he did the Rumbling, he explained why he did in the same chapter.
If something doesn't make sense then it doesn't make sense. Simple.
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@@dubhbubonem6561 Wow, this ending really is a master class of how to write a perfect story that makes sense.
Can't think of a clear character motivation to justify their goals? Just make them "crazy"/ irrational so their motives can be inconsistent with their actions.
Need the plot to move along despite character growth/ motivations getting in the way? Just make the character a plot device, doing things because "fate" demands them to.
Can't think of logical cause and effect to conclude a story? Just say that the ending was "inevitable" and basically every plot hole is resolved since everything was fated to be anyway. Your fans will do mental gymnastics to fill in the gaps anyway.
Given your standard for the ending making sense, Isayama could have ended the story shipping Eren and Armin romantically and it would still be great. It could "technically" make sense since Eren hasn't explicitly stated he's straight (so he could also be bi), Armin clearly is a very important person to him (Eren shown as much affection for Armin as he does Mikasa) and most importantly it would be an unpredictable twist that can be justified with "real world logic".
@Devin The Dude People always overestimate Eren's abilties and it saddens me.
Also, Isayama didn't at all make him a tragic hero. All he did was give the reason as to why he was doing what he was doing.
Only writing "makes non sense" show that you don't understand a thing about Aot'history and plot.
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This ending only makes sense if the story hasnt actually ended... Feels like now theres more questions than answers
Read better manga watch better anime they are out there watch Fullmetal Alchemist and Gurren Lagann.