The Chapter That Actually RUINED Attack on Titan (It was NOT 139)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2021
- Chapter 139 is not the chapter that ruined Attack on Titan, it may be the objectively worst chapter, but the chapter that actually ruined Attack on Titan was Chapter 88 since this is where the seeds for the final ending would be planted. Eren Yeager is possible the most ruined protagonist of all time, his demise is nothing short of character assassination. Honestly, we don't know what Isayama was thinking when he wrote this. Unless, Isayama is playing 4-D chess and this isn't the real ending.
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Now I understand what Reiner meant when he said "the worst person that could have the founder titan's power is you, Eren"
this , same here.
EXACTLY. Same thoughts. With such nonsensical motivations and not even knowing his own motivations, Eren is literally the one person who shouldn't have that much power. A person with untamed power and no sense of responsibility is nothing more than a beast, an animal.
The only one who could top Eren in terms of nonsense and just pure vileness is Ymir. That girl is messed up.
@@r.s.7929 It's just mindblowing to me how Isayama didnt know how to write his own character's ending properly. That ending made we wanna erase AoT out of my brain forever.
Damn.. Godly forth wall breaking. Sasuga Yam sama.
If season 4 finishes like the manga, I think my head canon is going to be season 3 was the ending. A cliffhanger, but it's basically a "The Village" ending. Good enough.
The S3 ending actually was an ending. Unlike this crap.
@@TheAeroAvatar not your ending, still my ending*
@@beepbeep5153 that was no ending
no 123 with 131 and 130 as special episode is my true ending
@@manthansharma4835 No. Chapter 90 was the end of it.
Shit, I just realised something. Ymir burdened her descendants for 2,000 years because she couldn't get over her dead 'lover'. Mikasa burdened her children and grandchildren because she couldn't get over her dead 'lover'. Yams went out of his way to force the Mikasa-Ymir parallel.
Oh God that's disgusting. Even as someone who no longer enjoys Mikasa that is truly heinous.
Man, I can't believe that I missed this parallel lol 🤣
@@auladit5700 hardly funny
@@auladit5700 The whole thing is pretty ridiculous. It has no place in the story and was not built up at all. Seems pretty contrived that Mikasa is the one to make Ymir see the light. All because Isayama decided to romanticize two highly abusive relationships. As if we needed any more evidence as to why Eremika doesn't work.
I don't think Ymir loved King Fritz, it just that Eren doesn't know what "love" is. Look at how he suddenly love Mikasa, it felt weird and forced.
This Chapter is a contradiction to what we got from the past
1- Eren will continue to move forward to where?
A- Until his enemies are destroyed (100)
B- Until Mikasa kills him (139)
2- What does Eren want from the island?
A- Certain victory (134)
B- Uncertain victory (139)
3- Does Eren want to exterminate all his enemies?
A- Yes (132 and 123)
B- No, 80 percent (139)
4- Is it possible to control Ackerman's memories?
A- No (65)
B- Yes (139)
5- Does Eren know why he wants to destroy his enemies?
A- Yes (before 139)
B- No (139)
6- Who died on the spear?
A - Ymir (122)
B - The criminal Fritz (139)
7- Who are the people that Aren wants to live a long life?
A- Mikasa Armin Sasha Kone Levi Erwin Hangi Flock and Jean (130)
B- Mikasa, Armin, Cony, Levi, Jean, Rainer and Annie (139)
I do agree so many things don't add up, but I feel like we were paying more attention than Isayama unfortunately...
Careful dude! These insane fans will accuse you of "not getting the story".
@@TheAeroAvatar Also about Criminal Fritz's death they said you are making jokes left and right by saying this in fact Ymir was thinking that if she didn't sacrifice herself for Criminal Fritz.
Where is the proof?
Nothing.
Just defend the ending like blind person
@@TheAeroAvatar when they say you don't understand the story you must know that they don't understand it either just they want to defend it that's it.
@@ulitmatedangai4934 I don't follow.
There is no defense for the ending. I don't want Isayama squirreling his way out of this one either.
Man, that conversation Eren has with Pixis over the walls seems so stupid now.
Why? It's not like he planned on becoming the one true enemy of mankind. That was bound to happen because of the Rumbling. His real goal was his own personal freedom and humanity was in his way. Of course everyone would unite to stop him, but that doesn't mean conflict would end, as we see in the aftermath. The conversation still stands.
@@ZelEniqGamer cope
@@Red-yb8qp Usually people put more than one word into their replies when they actually have something valuable to say. Guess you're not one of them.
@@ZelEniqGamer ... in 139,he said himself he DID plan on becoming the enemy of mankind and simultaneously propping up the alliance as heroes... isayama kinda made it a point for eren to say that....
@@TheSynergy40 That was AFTER he found out he's gonna die. He was forced into doing that plan.
S1: too many people died trying to repair the wall, we can't celebrate.
S4: 80% of the world died lol, anyway let's party!
It's also funny how nobody run out of gas.
Great video btw
This ending makes no sense and still bothers me. Reading the line "Only Ymir Knows" was like getting hit in the face with a brick. It's really disappointing, man
Isayama fulfilled his promise of hurting his readers....
What’s wrong with the line
@@brusselseastside3546 what isn’t wrong with that line
It’s the worst way to write something you can’t explain
It’s literally the sao reki thing
“Ya know I don’t even remember why I did this”
It’s so shit
@@TheJoethud22 bro sao >>>> aot endings
@@TheJoethud22 is like the "SOMEHOW Paltpatine returned" in episode 9 of star wars
"The ending is like cancer that keeps... on... growing."
Excellent description
EXCEPT LEVI?! He got the shaft too. He was reduced to his obsession to kill Zeke and thought about barely anything else, he fumbled it each time, then when the moment came he was handed the opportunity to kill Zeke which would have been impossible to do in his current condition. It was just given to him on a silver platter and Zeke just gave his life up.
I know we all like to circle jerk Levi being the only one to not be butchered but his damage is simply miniscule because he barely had much besides that hate boner for Zeke post time skip constantly being put on the back burner so the story could happen. That makes it seems like it's a fine ending for him but he was ruined too. In all honesty he should have just been killed by Zeke's explosion.
Yeah, but that last salute he gave to all the dead scouts was the only great moment from the ending
@@videobooks3 But that moment can unfortunately be criticized too. Because, why is he saluting his comrades? He doomed Paradis, we know that from the 8 extra pages now, making their sacrifices meaningless. They gave their lives up for freedom and the future of humanity within the walls, and Levi allied himself with the very people who had been the cause of their oppression, the cause of their horrific deaths, the cause of Paradis’ suffering at the hands of the Titans for a hundred years. Also what about the way he hated Zeke for killing Erwin, yet had no problem eating stew with Annie? Annie slaughtered his squad, most notably Petra who was romantically interested in him (since her father was concerned about marriage when he approached Levi after the failed mission to capture the Female Titan). While not one for openly showing emotion, Levi couldn’t make one snide comment in her direction? He had no problems dissing Zeke on the blimp, or the Marleyan soldiers that came to Paradis. Jean beat Reiner to a pulp for Marco without jeopardizing the Alliance. Levi couldn’t even show through dialogue that he’s not ok with Annie and is only teaming up out of necessity?
@@keytra6291 Yeah we know, but it was the only decent moment from the ending
@@videobooks3 Fair enough
@@keytra6291 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Acc to me, Levi shouldn't have survived the war. I genuinely thought he died when he saluted his fallen comrades. I don't want him to open a tea shop, I just want that man to die in peace. No matter how good a life he has henceforth, he would constantly be haunted by survivor's guilt and ptsd, not to mention crippled and dependent on others when he's always been an independent character.
I'm on the fence about Levi surviving the Thunder spear. Him surviving because he's an Ackerman is such a plot armor it's not even funny. You mean to tell me that those spears can rip armored titans armor to shreds but cannot kill an Ackerman who is still a human made of flesh and bones??
Plus, it would have been such a beautifully tragic end for him.
But I love him and Erwin too much so I'm kinda glad he survived and carried out Erwin's final order to kill Zeke but I dont like how it felt like he was basically attacking a straw dummy for all intents and purposes. After all this wild journey, it didn't feel cathartic.
Speaking of cathartic, I think we all are holding on to the Levi's salute scene as a form of copium in a desperate bid to salvage something cathartic in this otherwise mess of an ending.
Sorry for the long essay. I've been a fan of aot for so many years, practically grew up with it and I guess I'm still hurting by the way the ending betrayed us.
Ymir was a much better character when she was a person who didnt know what it meant to have personal agency, and when Eren broke the will of the Fritz line to free her. All of that only to make Mikasa the MC. Fuck this ending. Fuck the "Ymir loved King Fritz" twist.
It's the worst part of the ending in our opinion
How is Mikasa the mc
Had the twist in perspective been that Armin was the main character, or maybe even Zeke or Reiner, I maybe would’ve bought that. But Mikasa? She’s the single most bland character in the series. Her entire character/personality exists just to service Eren. And that’s really a shame bc Mikasa is such a cool character with the whole Ackerman bloodline thing. Really a waste of her character
The worst thing about AOT after chapter-131 is the whole *Ymir- king Fritz toxic lovestory* theme which doesn't even makes sense and because of this theme ending literally looks lifeless compared to previous chapters .
1.And it looks like just to satisfy shippers this ship is made and if the anime is exactly like manga then the studio should add additional moments of reason for Ymir being in love with abusive,age-old, rapist king which would be very cursed and controversial for viewers to watch.
2.To change the Ymir's concept of toxic love is basically changing the entire finale in continuation to chapter-131 and even Mikasa kissing decapitated eren.
In any sensible way I can agree that the above points are the literal reason why AOT fans are arguing about finale(Chapter-139)
** People should remember this at the very end Eren Yeager is responsible for death of 80% population and he fooled yeagerists faction for complete rumbling and if he didn't convinced Floch would never kill those innocent people and children of marleyans**
*Alliance is responsible for death of Paradise because they didn't made peace with outside world for eternal*
The AOT world is fucked up because of the Eren's mindless actions and foolishness of alliance for stopping eren.
The more you think about it, the worse it gets...
@@videobooks3 Dude , please don't don't get me wrong
is it possible for you to edit/ create videos of more length.
Because I had a fan theory for AOT ending but I need support to create edits about it. I am sorry to say this ,but I am taking my own time to develop it by myself and I have no enough software to create it.I want to share more information in my comment but is it possible for you to atleast reply me
@@theworld4152 Sure :) what's the theory?
The moment when the theme was changed from "Children are the future" "Keeping children out of the forest" "Oppression" to " Agony of love" is when you knew the story is f up
@@theworld4152 now I'm finished the final chapter. You are right. Most messed up shitty ending. even fanfiction can be better than this.
Eren: Exterminates 80% of the world
Erens friends: Sooo anyways, lets party
It's so jarring haha
Poggers
They're not even the slightest bit pissed off that they KILLED THE JÄGERISTS trying to stop Eren's genocide, which they're suddenly OK with?? Damn, the Cringevengers are making it easy for us to ridicule them.
It reminds me of how the South Park Vaccination Special ended. Everyone thanks Garrison for getting them all vaxxed, forgetting that he ruined the country. They then dance at a woman's funeral to celebrate the pandemic ending.
AoT's ending is a South Park ending!
Honestly, I was already convinced the alliance would have to be dead near the end cuz of my frame of reference with the previous arcs. Fighting normal titans is already a pain in the ass, fighting titan shifters is a pain of the ass with extra steps and you need the other titan shifters to help but it will still be hard (especially if its the colossal titan), and it has been stated that the rumbling is literally the end of the world type of weapon and anti-titan weapons, and other titan shifters won't be that effective against it. And the fact that the Yeagerists will do everything to complete the rumbling. Also, the Alliance has limited resources.
Them surviving is baffling in general
So in summary yea, they are literally screwed over even at the start honestly they would have been dead so many times but were saved by ass pulls and plot armor.
its called cringevengers
I'm gonna be sad if The Alliance dies
Seeing Mikasa and Armin died and Connie and Jean ohmygaddd....
@@catnoirlover1719 If I was an eldian I'd be happy that they're dead lol. They doomed Paradis without even having a backup plan in case they beat Eren. They became peace diplomats in the ending and FAILED lol. They aren't eldia's heroes. They are traitors and selfish bastards who hide under the guise of morality when all they actually care about are their own egos.
Not to mention that Levi, the notorious Titan slayer, was out of commission and only good for killing Zeke, who gave up and let it happen. Makes it all the more unbelievable.
Hopefully that the manga chapter was fake then the real ending so people won’t spoil when you watch it
That's the dream...
That's one long April fools joke
The copium is strong in this one
Forget your dream and just support AOTnoRequiem. That's the real ending
"Attack on Titan doesn't deserve to be talked about. It had it's chance to be great and blew it." So painfully true, unfortunately. There are so many things that made the story and series amazing. I'll never stop listening to the opening songs, I'll never forget certain goosebump moments, I'll always adore some of the old version of those characters, but I can't bring myself to recommend this series to anyone now. Too many things were thrown into the trashfrom chapter 88 on. Thanks for this video analysis, it's spot on for so many blunders that thappened. 139 was just the final nail on the coffin.
Nah everything before chapter 90 is pretty crappy its just standard shounen
@@nerevarchthn6860 then it gets even shittier afterwards 🤣🤣
my favorite anime
Those were my thoughts exactly
@@nerevarchthn6860that’s so true
Hange arguably stayed the same given she’s a scientist not a commander and was aware she was bad at that role
Ngl, even though I wasn't a fan of Hange's development post-timeskip, her death was the perfect send-off for her and was the most "Hange" way to go out.
@@alexvaughan1013 except eren kind of lets her die
bro is in a timeless place with the ability to control all eldians throughout time and he cant even save hange 💀
the only justification for not saving hange is determinism and thats so 😭😭
I am still baffled about how bad the ending is, it feels like Isayama tried to make it non-cathartic.
It makes no sense that Eren is literally clairvoyant and has the ability to mind control the only people that could theoretically stop him and he is not able to create a "good" outcome.
He should have been able to. But even Isayama could not clarify his excuse for why this wasn't possible.
They didn't really establish what the Founder's powers can and can't do. You know, like how the rules and limitations of the Death Note were clearly established and followed for the entire story.
I call the Founder the "F*CK YOU Titan", since it's only as powerful as the plot demands because F*CK YOU!
On top of that, he has the ability to time travel. He’s made changes to the past before, so I don’t get what’s stopping him from going back in time and making actual changes, instead of just using it to make his dad eat people and to kill his mom.
I just realised Eren Reiner and Zeke carried the story post time skip
And each of their respective endings were very disappointing
@@videobooks3 Yet Gabi and Floch, two of the most hated characters, ended up being the best characters!
@@alexvaughan1013 Yeah, the irony lol
I wanted to reread Aot but after that ending.. it`s just doesn`t make any sense to go into it again and be heartbroken with ending..
We planned to do the same thing, but now we're stuck with 31 manga volumes we probably won't ever read again
@@videobooks3 I- but it’s not completely the worst... she it may have been quite flawed but it was a wonderful journey. Pls don’t abandon the manga :(
The ending is disgusting. But really everything from the Marley arc onward is crap. Total crap.
@@videobooks3 I'll buy them
@@TheAeroAvatar that is straight up bullshit. The best chapter was 121 and the final arc could have been masterpiece. Well it is for me because aot no requiem is the true ending.
AoT author's ego got way too big for himself after the anime became extremely popular. The recons and changes to the story just to drag it along and write a crappy ending for a story that became a convoluted piece of shut.
Yeah Isayama tries to convince us he's a humble man. I don't buy the act at all.
oh god finally someone that brought up that Jean should be the 15th commander of The Survey Corps. that moment when hanji picked Armin left a bitter taste on my mouth. I also hate the comparison between Erwin and Armin. And even hating it more that the "Jean is going to be a great leader" subplot that had been built since the beginning, since almost 12 years ago were thrown into the dumpster just like that.
Everything from Chapter 86 onwards, ruins the first 85 chapters of AOT somehow...
@@videobooks3 yeah ever since the introduction of path and even worst in rumbling arc.
you guys should also seen a newest official art for hita museum exhibition
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look at where yams put annie and where he puts reiner and bertholdt. i think yams is content with everything even the ending.
@@zenldh It is shocking how quickly everyone fell out of love with AOT
@@videobooks3 it was a well-loved series and was regarded as a masterpiece, how many readers called isayama a genius too? then many of its readers spent at least 10 years following the series, not only spending time but also money and many made the thought provoking theories only to be answered/paid off like this.
I don't know if you guys had read the translations of the guidebook by kasumikasa. I was the 6-7/10 ending scorer when I first read the ending, but slowly as I tried to understand it, it had since gotten worse. It made even worse after the latest AoT guidebook tried to paint Eren Jaeger, the genocidal mass murderer that you described in 15:40, who turns everyone's beloved as a glob of meat and puddle of blood, as a Selfless Martyr who sacrifice himself for the sake of his friends. It was mentioned several times that he did the genocide ALL FOR HIS FRIENDS. And they even use the "I want you all to live long and happy" as a quote for Eren Jaeger, the man who did genocide of 80% of human population. AoT left an even more bitter taste in my mouth, like wtf is the message and what is they trying to convey.
Years ago i thought armin to be the perfect sucessor to erwin tactical mind but the timeskip ruined his character grow, made me believe that berthodt had really control armin mind.
Jean's character was assassinated as well when Reiner told him he killed Marco and Jean later apologies to Reiner and said he never had a right to be mad at him. The only character left intact was Falco tbh
True, but compared to the others Jean's character assassination was minor
@@videobooks3 agreed.
And then making nice with that bitch Gabi. Who took away his other best friend.
@@Spantzcatdog I would say Levi was least. Jean was assassinated pretty hard. Reiner was reduced to a letter sniffing simp
I probably missed it, but did Jean really say he "has no right to be mad at Reiner"?!
You guys go so in depth I love it. All my friends are anime-onlies so I don't have anyone to rant to and these videos are perfect coping material. For their sake I hope to god for an anime only ending
Let's hope so, anything would be better than this ending, somehow
I'll leave this here for you, Jake.
As psychopathic as the anime only section of the fandom can be, they are always much more open to the story and what it is trying to do. Examples ? The manga community lost its shit over Serumbowl. Come the anime, anime viewers consider it one of the best episodes of the anime.
Manga readers hype the fuck out of Gabi hate and how the anime only viewers will HATE her. Come her anime debut, and whadaya know, looks like the anime crowd is much more accepting of her.
Notice the pattern ? The manga community for Attack on Titan are the most self entitled and blind group of misrable bastards there is. And I promise you, come the ending and when the anime only viewers once again prove you wrong ? Hopefully then you and everyone else who thinks like this will realise, it's their own. Damn. Fault.
Well, there are many speculations, and I personally can't believe that Isayama did this without a purpose, cuz he's the same dude who freaking wrote chapters 1-131, no one could ever think of such a detailed story but him, I'm nearly 100% sure that Isayama did this on purpose
Heard mappa already completed animating it and it's coming out in December. I mean it's better to keep the hopes low cuz y'all kept high hopes for the ending n look here we are 🤷♀️
@@Redjanuary17 That isn't confirmed. It's based on the vague tweet of a leaker who said "come out the same way." It's intentionally vague so they don't get in trouble. We don't know what they mean and should probably wait for more context before making any sort of statement.
Everything you predicted two years ago came true. The ending of AoT is a disappointment.
Never thought I would end this epic journey with finding my formerly favourite character (Armin) absolutely annoying, taking back all the praise I had for Eren's development and saying "some of this is a worse love story than Twilight". Never happened to me before, I'm baffled.
Armin was my favorite too, he use to be samwise gamgee from lord of thrings now they turn him into Samwell tarly from game of thrones.
Yeah no, I'm still not willing to let go of my little guy armin. ALL HIS CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR NOTHING???? i am outraged, he reeks of wasted potential, oh wait, now every attack on titan character has that. For shame
Mikasa being a huge Twilight lover in the spin-off that Isayama confirmed as canon is the funniest reflection on her lovestory.
That was the thing that bothered me the most.. i think it would have been better to show the weight of eren's decisions.. these are characters who have struggled morally over killing someone before and they just forgive him? i think a complicated legacy as survivors would have been better to explore
The Eren worship at the end feels as though everyone has been brainwashed or something
@@videobooks3 I feel like all the failures in Eren's plan were meant to happen, because his plan wasn't glorified by Isayama to begin with. If he was truly saying genocide is good, Eren would've finished it, case closed. Instead, this "great plan" Isayama is apparently promoting as good, according to you, ends up:
- establishing a fascist regime on Paradis
- leaving 400,000,000 people alive and full of hatred toward Paradis
- ruining his friends' lives by forcing them into the role of ambassadors, then putting their parents under protective custody
- taking away the one thing Paradis had to defend themselves - the titan powers, only for them to return in another shape or form, because they still exist
How is a plan with so many holes good? Short answer - it's not. And that's the point. It wasn't meant to be good or praised, which is why it led to so many failures. Eren's plan was that of a traumatized child who wanted to flatten the world because that was his idea of freedom. The idea he adopted from seeing nothing but empty landscapes in Armin's book. He wanted nothing more than to be free and because THIS was the primary reason for the Rumbling, it ultimately brought nothing but chaos and destruction. It was never truly about protecting the island - it was about Eren's freedom.
@@ZelEniqGamer But Eren wasn't free, Eren even said it himself?
@@videobooks3 I never said he was. I only said that's mainly what he wanted. It's a running theme in AoT for characters to never reach their ultimate goal and we see examples in Erwin, Kenny, and Zeke's plans. Eren was just another victim of Kenny's philosophy - "they were all slaves to something".
Ever since chapter 90, it's been more than clear that he will never be free or will have to go down a horrifying path to achieve it. But in the end, no matter the cost, he will never reach that dream. Erwin sacrificed so many soldiers to prove his father's theory right and right before he could do so, he got killed. Zeke sacrificed just as many, if not more, but never accomplished his grand plan.
@@ZelEniqGamer So, is Isayama proposing we just give up on life like Erwin, Zeke, Eren since freewill is impossible and therefore it's better to see to the destruction of our world than do something to change it?
The worst part about Paradis getting destroyed. It happened several decades after Mikasa died of old age. That means the generations who got carpet bombed weren't even born when the Rumbling happened. Their only wrongdoing was being born into and raised by fascism. It's no different to how Eldians in Eren's time were persecuted for what their ancestors did. Way to 'end the cycle', Mr. Yogurt!
That's such a good point, it honestly undoes any goodwill we had towards Eren and the Alliance since they let this happen
@@videobooks3 Certainly does. This ending is like the song Nicki Minaj - Stupid Hoe. The more you think about it, the more it punishes you.
buT iTs rEaliStiC
if its realistic then eren would have opted of killing the threat which is the outside world
@@centurymemes1208 If it was realistic, everyone would be rioting over shit roll because of the Rumbling. The 'realism' card doesn't work 😂🧻
I know it's far fetched but think of it. Isayama would go down in history as the most savage mangaka if he planned to deliberately mess up the manga ending all the while planning an anime only ending. It'd literally be the most savage thing in writing history ever.
I wish that was the case
tbf that's not completly impossible. Isayama did work closely with the anime production team ,plus he himslef did say he regretted the ending(to some extent)
Paths was the stupidest idea, I didn't like it 1 bit, it felt extremely sci fi I liked the basic idea of titans and some having different abilities but when you go further down the rabbit hole of sci fi it just becomes bland and uninteresting
Honestly titan powers never needed to be fully explained, just understood
@@videobooks3 Yes 100%...I agree that whole little girl being in love with the king was such a stupid idea to ruin the whole world. Wouldve been way cooler. Also I wish Erens fathers plan was like a 30 year strategy that they had to have certain things in line for the final attack instead of the whole utinization vs kill the whole world thinking
Agreed. If anything, Paths should’ve been a Founding Titan thing only. That way, we could still have kino chapters 121 and 122 intact.
Im also really confused about ymir's and eren's powers. When I think about it, it doesn't make sense
Like so many other things...
You mean like how Mikasa was apparently a slave to Eren because of her Ackerman instincts, then she isn't a slave to Eren because she's immune to the founder, then she is a slave to her love for Eren because she had to be a Ymir parallel, then she isn't a slave because she killed Eren, but then she is a slave to love again because she kept visiting Eren's grave and even got buried next to him. You can't make this stuff up...
@@alter6243 Mikasa is free. Is her choice to love Eren. Her love for Eren would last forever but she got the power to move forward but she will never forgot Eren
The only hope I have is an anime only ending. There is no way they make this the anime ending. Aot will go down as the most ruined story in eternity.
I guess we'll find out if they do haha
@@videobooks3 Talk about a longshot. What's left to recover anyway? Like you said, it got bad after 88. But in my opinion, it got bad after 91, and was dead at 105. And it never recovered.
@@TheAeroAvatar I mean, if the 139 ending was good than the issues of the rumbling arc could be contained to just that arc and not spillover to ruin the other parts of the show... so, in a sense there was still some dignity to recover.
@@luciferkotsutempchannel the story was ruined by that worthless Marley arc. Ymir and Sasha, two unwarranted death scenes that hurt the series badly. And those worthless Marley kids. Cannot stand them. But 139 did affect everything else in the story. It forces us to question what the he'll the point of the entire struggle was. There's no dignity left to lose after that clusterfuck of a chapter.
Ok can someone explain me why marley arc was worthless??
I feel like if paths was explained throughly it'd be one of the best things in aot because to me aot 120-123 is peak fiction, then we get past 131 and the fumbling happens
100% agree, it could have been amazing
Dude this got bad with the Marley arc.
I'd argue that the fumbling already started before 131, with Connie trying to have his mom eat Falco, Annie pie scene, etc.
@@r.s.7929 it's still saveble, real shit starts in 132. My only hope and wish is AOE. It's either AOE or let they animate that crap panel by panel, just for the memes and funny reaction from animeonlys
To me post Marley is when things stated to get bad , characters stopped being characters and were turned into plot devices , plot points were introduced but then went nowhere some immediately when it's introduced ( mikasas Asian history) eren being villanized for protecting his people while the scouts are portrayed as hero's for protecting people that want to kill them for existing , previous villains suddenly are forgiven after all the horrible things they've done .
eren is also being potrayed as a selfless tragic hero in the end. even in the guidebook, he was potrayed as a martyr who does genocide for the sake of his friends only. including how they chose to use eren's quote back in the train cart "i want you guys to live long" when they were talked about who will have founding and attack titan after eren. even isayama needs to replace the wording of "thank you for being the mass murderer blah blah" from "error" into something heavier like "fault" but still not chosing "sin" because it was controversial too in Japan.
so it wasn't rly a shock if the wall breakers were forgiven and even their sin is forgotten (though reiner already paid so much, bertolt even with his life, compare them to annie who doesnt even have a redemption arc but also get to live with her father and bcm armin's waifu).
Too many Marvel movies!
The worst chapter was the chapter that killed me
Oh, really what about me bruh
@@vigneshtongaria8286 real Shit
@@vigneshtongaria8286 you deserve it, your a devil
Well you should've let Reiner die in peace!
At least u didn’t die like a clowm
I just, I don’t know how to feel about this series now that I’ve watched this video. It physically hurts me man I’ve loved this series for so long and I want to continue loving it so badly but now that I’ve heard him point out all the glaring flaws in the story and character writing, plot holes, conveniences, story developments that make no sense due to previously established facts, and underdeveloped, rushed conclusion (or lack there of) makes me feel like I can never feel the same way about this story again. Like damn, it just hurts that’s all I can say.
“He wants to get revenge on manga readers for spoiling stories to anime watcher”- comedy genius 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eren: "I won't gamble Paradis' future, but I also won't take away my friends' freedom to stop me."
Also Eren: My Dad hates violence? Imma use his dead sister to manipulate him into murdering the Reiss children.
So much for freedom of choice!
Similarly:
Eren: "Because I was born into this world, or some shit."
Also Eren: Imma sacrifice my mom and dad's lives for this plan I'm not gonna complete. Even though they're the reason I was born into this world.
I really try not to think about it anymore, but I am curious to see the anime reaction
@@videobooks3 Anime onlys' reactions is the most exciting part of Season 4 Part 3 Shippuden Brotherhood Max!
@@videobooks3 it feels bad.
Damn, if only we had Sasha Braus and Hange and not those Marley shits Isayama dumped on us. And if only Eren never became a genocidal monster. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but I am infuriated by the events that landed us with this offensive finale. Isayama does not deserve any understanding, only scorn for this mess.
Ymir Fritz before 139 -- Learned Helplessness
Ymir Fritz after 139 -- Simp
AoT started tanking after the rumbling got activated. As an anime only
same
Pre-retcon Eren banged on about parents forcing roles on their children. But all Aaron Yogurt did was force roles on everyone:
- He forced Armin to be 'the one who saves humanity' (despite killing 80% of it).
- He forced Mikasa to kill him to free Ymir (and then cried like a bitch when he couldn't be with her).
- He forced Historia to have a baby with her bully for no fucking reason (which is the ultimate sexist bullshit).
- He forced his friends into a war they wanted nothing to do with.
- He forced the Jägerists to become a fascist militia to protect the island (after HE pussied out on the Rumbling).
- He possibly forced his Dad to give him the Attack and Founding Titans.
- If you believe that he was controlling all past Attack Titans, then he forced Kruger to torture his own people for years instead of GETTING THE FOUNDER HIMSELF!!
So much for Eren the 'freedom fighter'! He's like Amon from Legend of Korra. He led an 'anti-benders' group, but turned out to be a blood bender and made everything worse.
Never thought of it like that good comparison, also you're right he forced a lot of things onto ppl and in the end it got Paradise destroyed lol
@@videobooks3 Thanks guys! I also forgot that he forced millions of dead Titan Shifters to come back and be used as puppets. Not unlike how Ymir was still used after she died.
My new headcanon is that Eren was just a psychopath with way too much power, and royally fucking the world was his 'freedom'.
@@alexvaughan1013 More accurate than Eren being praised as the saviour of Paradise haha
@@videobooks3 They seriously should've had Magath survive. He actually learned his lesson that the Islanders aren't devils. And with him being a high-ranking Marleyan officer, he could've advocated for the people of Paradis and people would listen to him. Hell, the Magath and Shadis scene legit gave me the feels.
But of course, for an edgy ending where hate and fascism win, the positive arcs of Magath and Gabi had to be completely forgotten about.
@@alexvaughan1013 The ending honestly felt so childish, like you said, something an edgy thirteen year-old would come up with haha
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Porco ate out Ymir before Historia could.
Come to think of it, Historia's passiveness is perhaps even more unforgivable than Armin and Hange. Why? Simply because she's the Queen i.e. leader of her country. And what does she do as leader? Gets pregnant and does nothing about the violence in Paradis or the foreign threats to Paradis. And when she does do anything, she just passively goes along with the plans others put in front of her. Such as the 50 year plan and of course, her friend Eren's global genocide that he puts Historia's people at risk to commit. She also does nothing to stop Floch and the Jägerists from murdering military and government figures to seize power. 4And after 80% of the world is destroyed, she presides over the Jägerists' militarism, which will make the remaining 20% hate them even more and eventually carpet bomb them.
Histiria basically forgets what Ymir told her and reverts to Krista Lenz, playing whatever role she's expected to play. And that would be fine and dandy. Many characters' childish desires and ideals come back to bite them. Jean, Reiner and Mikasa come to mind. But unlike these characters, Historia doesn't get to overcome this because she's reduced to less than a background character. Historia, you've chosen to play the role of leading your country. So play that gosh dang role!
Another great character ruined!
Yeah I agree, just another great character ruined...
@@videobooks3 She's officially a worse leader than my country's former Prime Minister, Theresa May! May had 3 years to sort Brexit out, but got nothing done! 🤣
Historia goes along with the 50 year plan because at that time there was no other choice to protect paradis... It's either sacrifice herself or let paradis invaded... So as their QUEEN, she chose to protect them by sacrificing herself.
And when eren tells her about the genocide, she opposes him at first, but we never got the full conversation... May be eren showed /told her that it's the only way to save paradis... And he wouldn't have lied to historia (there's no need to even tell her about the plan unless he wanted to confide in her). May be he showed her that the test rumbling (50 Yr plan) wouldn't work as it only proves marleys point that paradisians are a threat and the world would hasten their attack and her bloodline would be doomed forever because of the cycle of war and not just for 50 yrs UNLESS the other side was destroyed. She was SELFISH and she would never chose to sacrifice HER CHILDREN for such a fate when a BETTER CHOICE was offered by eren
He told her about the complete plan and she sided with him.... Why would she oppose yeagerists when she's secretly on their side? The military were planning to kill eren to pass the founding titan and the military heads have to be killed for the plan to work. Just like the military chose to sacrifice her and her bloodline for 50 Yr plan, she chose to sacrifice them for the rumbling to work and to SAVE PARADIS. Just like eren risked his friends lives. There's no better choice.
She didn't revert to Krista... Krista would've snitched on eren when he told her the genocide plan, for the greater good...to save humanity and would've took her chances with 50yr plan by sacrificing herself and her descendants indefinitely to save the humanity from the complete/80% genocide..... Eren didn't even have the founders powers at that time... She would have easily stopped him... Krista was the selflessly kind persona who sacrifices herself for the greater good... But she didn't do so
HISTORIA is selfish and chose to save herself and her children and sided with eren against all the humanity beyond the walls and the military heads while also ensuring the safety of HER PEOPLE as the QUEEN of PARADIS. rulers usually think about saving their own people... Not the ones coming to invade and destroy them...
Her getting pregnant has nothing to do with escaping eating zeke (covered by the wine plan). It's probably out of love... But why she chose to get pregnant before marriage or why she lied about conception time is still a mystery.... Blame isayama for that.
She presided over the yeagerists as she was always on their side....And now she is left with full power as the other military heads are no more.
The 80% plan seems stupid as paradis got nuked after some centuries anyways.... But the last 2 chapters are a clear retcon of 100% rumbling (anr) and garbage
But historias charecter was good and she acted as a QUEEN and never reverted to Krista. It would've made more sense if we were given her pov or even her complete conversations with eren... Which ISAYAMA FORGOT in all the pressurized retcon.
And isayama made her Pregnant during the rumbling arc... What else do you expect her to do?
Many of us felt that the series was ruined since "If you want to save Mikasa, Armin and everyone else..."
Even if the theory of the black birds becomes real, it is not going to erase our displeasure, because there was no need to ruin one of the two endings so much.
What black birds theory?
@@TheAeroAvatar for simplicity, in the manga the bird is white, in the anime the bird is black. so there will be a different ending for anime and manga. whereas in the manga the alliance is alive, in the anime they will die, you can find the theories on youtube and reddit.
@@zenldh I do not buy that.
@@TheAeroAvatar yeah idc if you buy that or not but thats the black birb theory lol. abt the possibility of two endings.
@@zenldh They won't change the ending.
I loved the part where Eren Kruger said, "Ghrisha, you must go beyond the walls and seize the founding titan. To be able to do this, you need to eat me and inherit my titan. Throughout history, this titan's marched in the vanguard. It has ever pushed forward, seeking freedom. And for freedom's sake... it fights. It's called the Retcon Titan"
that was pretty funny 😂
@@videobooks3 You know one of my most recent achievements this year was that someone reviewed a fanfiction on my Wattpad account and gave it a positive, in fact, there is a video review of it available on TH-cam. The fanfiction is called Volume 75. th-cam.com/video/vrAGgPHD5uk/w-d-xo.html
I thought maybe Isayama didn’t support mass genocide (Idk what he thinks but this is my response to your take based on how he portrayed Eren) because he kept portraying war as bad and every other character besides the Jeagorists was opposing the rumbling but you’re so right about the “how could they be happy” part after enduring that much trauma. No one has brought that up to Eren. In reality, he’s not thinking about what they want. He’s doing what he wants.
Yeah I know, how didn't any of Eren's friends commit suicide from the trauma of knowing billions died so they could live and the threat of knowing their children would inherit a cause they could never win
When this chapter came out, I read it over and over again bc I couldn't believe what I was reading. I then went through the several chapters before thinking I must have missed several huge things bc nothing in 139 made any sense to me. Well I finally concluded that I hated it and it was shit. Thanks for pointing out all the things that made my blood boil in utter disappointment over it.
Damn. I remember being so disappointed I couldn't read that chapter again. You're admirable for being able to read it more than once. 😂
I feel like Izayama tried so hard to be dark and deep that he ended up opening a lot of complex narrative lines near the end of his manga and could not handle them. You cannot open time travel 4 chapters prior to the ending unless you have sized or planned it from the beginning. Otherwise, just looks like lazy writing, while at the same time, he neglected points that were actually important to the plot.
Mikasa is the worst character after Ymir (Because Ymir won this title after making all of her descendants play to the tune of her Stockholm, letting them die gruesome deaths until she saw exactly what? "love?"). Izayama tried so bad to make her cool that seems flat and Mary Suish, if not for the Ackermagic she would have gotten killed over the first season, ok, we get it, she was the plot device that prevented Eren and Armin from getting killed back in the firsts seasons, but then? Izayama could not make her work in the slightest bit. The storyline in which she is this sort of Asian mob royalty brought NOTHING to the actual story, it's just "oh, look, she is also Azumabito! Look how complex is the protagonist love's interest". The only two possibilities for Mikasa towards Eren by the end are both abhorrent a) She didn't quite know Eren (as she said herself) and she was in love with a fantasy she had of him, she couldn't stand the fact that he was actually different from her idealization hence she killed him. Or b) She was manipulated because Eren knew after that he would kill him, so Mikasa never stopped being a slave to Eren's wishes because until the very end she did what he expected of her. Both are terrible things for a person to do. One makes her a delusional/childish persona, and the second makes her an utter idiot.
The ending could be summarized as "the power of toxic love saved the day". And that is cheap.
Another point about this trainwreck: the author seemed to be seduced by the popularity of EreMika because he didn't leave any precedent of Eren being in love with Mikasa, she referred to her AS HIS SISTER back when he was a kid, and all of a sudden he was always in love with her? Seriously?
Finally, the ending with Eren all Martyr-like, making everybody hate him an and enemy to even his close ones seems like a terrible combination of "Code Geass" (which is a Masterpiece) and "Butterfly effect", since he could see past, present and future while actually intervening in all of them
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Wit studio butchered her character,she is less annoying in manga, her dynamic with levi made her better character,but she can't be grateful for levi efforts
I couldn't agree more😭👍
@@MrDumb2011 What about the dumbing down of Armin and the table scene.
It's a shame, the first three seasons were phenomenal.
Worst ending
For me it was around 126/127, with the formation of the Cringeavengers.
They should have killed the Warriors and Gabi for sure.
I agree with everything. Ymir loving kind fritz and the alliance being grateful that they are profiting off eren’s genocide is disgusting. I loved this series so much im so sad things ended this way. Honestly I feel the only things isayama planned was eren’s rumbling and mikasa being the one to kill eren, I really wonder what original ending he had in mind
15:29
This right here sums up it for me. The ending was some of the most sickening shit i have ever read. Not the killing , but the way they acted. Hell the way some of the fans acted. And yeah the world eren created is a fascist hellscape. They would be no peace lol for eren's people. There would be constant in fighting and purges. All of his friends would have been killed for being traitors.
God i can't like this video enough. Its pefect. I loved aot at first. But what it turned into.... man... what a disappointment. The ending feels like a incel power fantasy.
Thank you! I really can't interact with AOT fans anymore. So many fans who defend Eren's actions and ironically call themselves "Yaegerists". Sure, Isayama tries to portray Eren to be wrong and the villain, and his story is supposed to be "anti-war" and "anti-fascist" yet Eren is forgiven by his friends and the narrator essentially says that racism and war will exist until one race remains... Ngl I kinda regret having time invested into this mess lol
I remember a time where comparing Dragon Ball Z to Attack on Titan was laughable. Turns out we were the fools all along, DBZ is everything AoT could never be:
- Actual and consistent amazing character development
- Meaningful themes and messages
- A timeskip that DOESN’T butcher its characters or narrative
- A confident main character that succeeded in all of his goals
I can’t believe that deku is becoming a much better and more fleshed out character than eren.
That AOT ending was dogshit but I can still confidently say Eren>Goku as a character
AoT seemed to take influence for its 'romance' from DBZ:
- Armin has a stiffy for the enemy, Annie. Just like Krillin and Android 18.
- Jean cucked Eren when he died. Just like how Vegeta cucked Yamcha.
- Ymir loved the abusive King Fritz. Just like how Goku loves the abusive Chi Chi.
I also realised that Gohan is the original Zeke:
- Born into a race that was persecuted for its crimes.
- Roles forced on them by their parents.
- Very intelligent.
- Can both turn into a giant monke!
- Not a good fighter in the beginning, but develops to become one of the strongest.
- Piccolo/Xavier served as a surrogate father figure to them.
- Their father prefers their younger brother to them.
@@alexvaughan1013 u got that right 👌
I really regret liking eren. After this video i want nothing to do with aot
Do you think season 3 part 2's ending works as an ending? Tbh I'll take it as an ending instead imo it's far better than what we got in 139
Yeah I haven't watched it to be honest, but yeah it probably would haha
@@videobooks3 season 3 part 2 ends at eren pointing towards the sea I think it's around ch 90
@@draconic1922 Yeah that should definitely be the ending then
Absolutely.
I hope what you said about isayama taking revenge on manga readers will end up being true. because it makes no sense for me how can he make so many mistakes in the end when everything before that was perfect (lets hope you are right about this🙏❤)
It's good to know we're not the only ones haha
Nah production has began they have no time to add new or else it will be rushed mess.
I believe when the anime ends, more than 80 percent of anime onlys will love it mostly because of overwhelming emotions but as time passes and they actually reflect,they will realise abt the questionable stuffs and thus splitting the fandom 50/50 once again
I think the reaction is going to be overwhelmingly negative, but that's just me
Niccolo also had a very unhappy ending. Not only did he lose Sasha, his family in Marley were most likely trampled and now, he has to see his new home (Paradis) become a fascist state just like his homeland.
Speaking of which, why the heck do we see Kiyomi siding with Paradis even after the Rumbling? I guess because they're now at the top of geopolitics and she can make money off them.
Good question, no answer
@@videobooks3 AoT's ending in a nutshell!
@@HindYeager Hizuru even had a secret island off the coast of Marley. Wonder if it was to spy on Marley, or gain easy access should they attempt a coup on a powerful nation.
Thank you. People don't realise was ruined way before Season 4 certain implementations such as paths, time travel and other overly ambitious expansion of the story.
In the end, all that depressing story, is a real waste of time.
Especialy since it's meaningless
I felt like he was running out of ideas when he kept repeating the same pattern of Eren getting kidnapped and rescued. It happened so many times and the final repeat in Liberio was honestly the worst battle of the series if you look real close. It was really boring compared to previous arcs. Another thing that ruined the series was the backlash to the Uprising arc which caused him to murder the whole corps and end it with one last military victory before people leave. Only issues is that it once again ends the storyline with Paradis islanders dying while killing their enemies. Redundant!
Eren yeager went like⬇️↗️↘️
Consume product, wait for next product bro.
*inhales copium..dies*
What is the term for when a character goes from naive yet relatable to undoubtedly moronic? oh yes, its called character development in AOT
3:00 This is exactly what I thought when the Attack Titan's time travel power was revealed. It made a lot more sense, but sadly it didn't come true
The Marley arc could be great. It completes the circle of good and evil, and could potential lift the series to the greatest height. However, the inconsistencies leading to the ending ruin it. Isayama probably is trying to set up for Beren: the next generation for more money
Nerfing levi was bad writing
@Light Flash It was just a sloppy plot device to nerf Levi and let Zeke get away. Probably the worst plot device in AoT since the Trost boulder.
@@Spantzcatdog i mean if levi wasn't injured,he can kill Annie, Also levi was pragmatic with Zeke for one month for paradise sake but Zeke betrayed him,so Zeke become plot device for rumbling because his simp brother care about Mikasa more than his family
@@Spantzcatdog Annie is just trash character without goal outside daddy issues, Zeke daddy issues Also ruined him ,made him fool against eren
It's not wrong to have a plot device like Paths in your story. You just have to use it correctly. 120-123 were chapters to convince the reader that Paths was a good addition.
But just like with everything else AoT has build up over 11 years, 137-139 ruins that as well.
Fantastic channel, fantastic content. I hope you guys keep going, there will be a story out there one day where all the pieces come together how they should. Unfortunately this wasn’t the one.
Thank you! Will do!
Forget attack on titan bro, Read Berserk, dune, the sandman and make videos on them please
For me, it was the basement chapter. That photograph ruined everything for me.
Why? What do you expected to found there?
Same
@@RandomGirl785 do you think that people living outside the walls was not a good poot point?
@@Lumiglebro don't talk to that user, he/she will say "same" "true" to any aot hate comment even if they are contradictory. He/She is a bot.
Did u hear abt the leak that part 3 will be divided into further cours? seriously I can't keep up with their utter nonsense giving so much time to animate just to end with that horrible ending
😂
Well, we now know that the anime ending was the same...
AN UTTER TRAIN WRECK!!!
Far out! What nonsense it was, so much crap that made absolutely no sense, completely destroyed great characters, story, etc.
Why do the rumbling in the first place when Eren knows that the 20% of the worlds population remaining will seek vengeance on Paradise Island for Erens actions.
There is just so much that went wrong, so much there that is a mess. Truly ruined an incredible story that truly deserved a great ending... we deserved a great ending and not the pile of DOG CRAP we got 😢🤯😵🤮😭😭😭😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
For me the Paths was a good addition to the story. In my opinion the story went downhill when Isayama started setting up the Alliance
Yeah I can understand, but I point to the Paths as where the story shifted towards becoming bad haha
Nah. It went straight to hell with the Marley arc, when he treated his original cast like garbage.
@@TheAeroAvatar The Paths were introduced in Chapter 86, 4 chapters before the start of the Marley arc so they are around the exact same time
@@videobooks3 can you Explain why the paths as where the story shifted
@@just_some_guywith_a_mask4282 Well, we feel like that's what this video does. Explain how every character after the introduction of the Paths in Chapter 86 slowly got ruined
Anime ending is not gonna change most probably. Isayama lost a chance to make a grand level story. No hate to isayama he is a good person and author but the after seeing ending everyone was like: Why tf and What tf. It's bad. Even if AOT ended after s3 like levi killing zeke and pieck would have been a bit lame but better than this. Questions like how titans came? How do these people get the power of titan shifter? Would have been unanswered. But unanswered Questions are better than a crap ending ruining most of the characters. Like how can levi not revive erwin. He was shown as a rational character. He knew erwin was better in everything. Even erwin could redeem himself by saving countless of future comrades with help of colossal titan. Not like armin and saying: Eren cum back. Ass fuck me but cum back.
Chapter 134 was where the cracks started showing with Hanjis senseless death
True, it didn't feel like AOT anymore after that for some reason
That chapter was disgusting.
it was chapter 132.
aot fans really get their ass kicked from the powerful reading comprehension titan huh
Another think: how Eren really know they Friends will live a Long Life if he doesn't know what's happens after his death and how they could survived in 80% wasteland with no Plants, Animals, Fish, Good waters etc etc?
I don't think he knows either. When he does rumbling, wasnt he stated that he doesnt even know if his friends will survive? If he doesnt know that, how do he knows about the future of his friends after his death. He doesnt even know how Mikasa is going to end him. All he did was a gamble based on the "i dont know" and "only ymir knows".
Armin being the savior of humanity is laughable shit too.
Sasha must be enjoying eating all those tasty burnt animals in the afterlife!!
The billions of carcasses across the world must've caused all kinds of diseases worldwide. Paradis should've kept itself safe by selling toilet roll and face masks to the outside world. Then nobody would even say bad things about Paradis!
Last arc was jsut bad Code geass fan fiction.
19:41 Halluacigenia had me so hype, then (and still) so deflated
AOT had me so hype, then (and still) so deflated
I actually thought the paths were a really cool concept, they just got ruined by the lack of explanation. I feel like there was so much lore there that could have been explored. Paths completely break the Ackerman's. It's literally stated their strength and combat experience comes from paths. For them to have not have that strength to later on aquire it from paths means Ymir had to have changed their bodies, when she apparently doesn't the ability to manipulate the Ackerman's because of "Titan science". The Ackerman's are either born with Titan strength which makes no sense, as then you'd have to explain how the science got to this point and why no scientist ever tried to recreate a similar effect, or Ymir rewires their body which is supposedly out of her power. I'm glad Levi didn't get ruined but look at what they did to Mikasa...
Yeah that's what we meant in the video when we said the Paths were not an objectively bad idea, but it had to be executed well, which they weren't sadly :(
To be fair, Mikasa never had much going for her, aside from badass moments here and there
@@milesyoungblood7173 I really didn't like how often it showed us Mikasa being super obsessed and angry over things happening to Eren. That time could have been spent to give her more character development but instead it was used to show she was crazy for Eren.
@@alter6243 very true.
Considering the Ackermans were supposedly created science, there's near enough fuck-all explanation for them! That'd be like if FMA didn't explain how Homunculi work.
You expressed almost all my frustrations very concisely. Great video
Glad to see others acknowledging that the entire final arc is a mess. Almost everyone begins acting totally out of character or just disappearing into the background due to the ballooning number of characters in the story, most of whom are forgettable. Yelena is so forgettable that even Isayama seems to have forgotten that she exists in the last few chapters. The ending is so unbelievably terrible that it overshadows everything else, but problems started way earlier.
He needs to own that bigtime. Everything after the ocean scene is a massive insult.
I’m not sure we’re meant to see Eren’s actions as a noble sacrifice. I think it’s a common mistake to think because something is done by the character we’re following it means the narrative condones or promotes it. Not every story is built around giving life lessons.
I'm so glad you guys finally made this video, THANK YOU for everything!
Sorry we took so long, but we really had nothing nice to say and we don't like making negative videos
If Eren can see all future "attack" titan users memories...shouldn't he have seen the memories of the "future" user after their lives were done years later? They made it seem like Eren was the last user.
His inability to change anything just makes no fucking sense.
We have to assume that he was the last attack titan, I guess
I also felt quite confused reading the battle of heaven and earth on the wiki.
Zeke death also felt rushed.
Coping season, huh?
Until the anime comes out haha
all the bs and plot holes as well as bad writting in 139 and overall the last arc
is just
but wait
there is more
over and over again...
This is a really great video, I'm totally convinced that paths were one of the worst things in aot, we didn't even get enough explanation of it and as you said it was the main reason for creating a lot of plot holes. I think aot shouldn't have the power of paths. I was hoping that isayama would tell us about the events of the war that took place 2000 years ago and what actually happened there in detail.
Yeah that would have been more interesting, more historical fiction that supernatural fantasy
I feel like it all went downhill after the Marley arc.
That's a fair point, everything after that starts to fall apart...
@Light Flash could not agree more
I just finished all of what’s out of the anime and loved the first 3 seasons but very let down by the 4th season. There were so many things wrong with where the story was going and I couldn’t bring it all together. This video was the one that showed me why I feel justified in not wanting the fourth season to be canon. Unfortunately, it is. I will just have to ignore it from now on when i rewatch the first three seasons.
I think it would’ve been more interesting for the paradis island people to fight with the Eldians like Rainer and the others on the main land against the marleyans. And it shouldn’t just be 4 seasons it should be longer so you can actually care about these mainland Eldians. It’s just strange to have the main villain Ymir, a supernatural dead being, instead of living humans. It would’ve been nice for this story to really reflect what’s going on in our world. Right now we have genocide, war and starvation, not because of some supernatural curse but because of human nature. It’s too bad that this story started so good and ended up badly
It's crazy how many stories do this - Lost, Heroes, Game of Thrones, House of Cards, Bleach, Naruto, etc. Very few stories actually have good a beginning, middle and end :/
@@videobooks3 My favorite show is Avatar the Last Airbender because it's consistent, has the most satisfying/epic ending, amazing character work/development, has the best redemption arc--I can go on and on. I don't like shows that try to subvert expectations or kill off characters for shock value. I've also heard good things about the Wire and I am starting that one. I don't think I will be disappointed in the Wire.
I was drawn to AoT at first because it had a horror aspect to it, especially the first season. But also I notice, and this may sound weird, that Eren's Titan form is how I imagine Kaladin Stormblessed from the Stormlight Archive to look--but of course, less monstrous looking, human sized, and darker skin. Kaladin reminds me of Eren--they both are hot headed, had fathers who are doctors. But Kaladin got to use his surgeon skills in the field, to help his fellow slaves in the war. I feel bad for long time readers of the manga to have their beloved Eren assassinated like he has been. I don't think Kaladin will have that treatment--crossing my fingers. Sorry this is long.
@@elcee8 Love AOT, grew up on that and it's the only show from my childhood that still holds up. Definitely need to get into Stormlight Archive, but after ASOIAF a part of me is tempted just to wait until all the books are out and then start reading haha
@@videobooks3 totally get it with GRRM not finishing his work. But Brandon Sanderson has had more than 30 novels published since Elantris in 2005 (how many has GRRM come out with since the first ASOIF?) He takes a break from one series by writing a book from another series. The man loves to write. I would recommend starting the stormlight archive and also read Warbreaker that’s connected to it. The 5th book actually closes the first arc of the story so you would get a conclusion to it relatively quickly as that’s the next stormlight book he’s working on. It’s so worth it! The way of kings is my favorite book ever.
@@elcee8 Probably will pick it up after finishing Wheel of Time haha
Jean is my favourite character so seeing him getting ruined as well hurt me lol😅I mean the fact that he still has crush on Mikasa doesn't really go well with his character development.feels like isayama intentionally kept it like that just so that Mikasa💅"the og main character"gets to have a happy married life beside eren's grave...
Ending jean with pieck would have made more sense lol
All those foreshadowing for a Walmart Zero (I.Q.) Requiem/ Lelouch ending...😂😂😂
I don't know if the Paths were necessarily the worst idea, but they were not explained well. Even at the end, the nature of them makes no sense. Two words: WHERE'S MARCO?????
And that is where my real complaints are. Isayama's horrific treatment of the original Paradis cast (That includes the meaningless deaths I was going off about earlier) and the fact that he pursued so many intersecting subplots with no plan on how to conclude them all, I knew he couldn't possibly resolve so many loose ends. This was set up for failure.
I just hope that in time more of the wider fandom will write off season four (Chapters 91 to 139) as the saga that never should have been.
I suspect this will happen very quickly after season 4 ends and the reaction is similar to GOT season 8
@@videobooks3 AOT is a genuine disappointment even though I long ago came to hate the series. Way before this ending ever came up. But I'm mostly angry at the characters I most enjoyed being shafted and killed off, towards no meaningful outcome and at the fact that the story got itself so big and so confusing with so many plots having no meaningful outcome. I am most angry about Sasha and other characters like her who got wasted. That's what I'm angriest about and I don't want the worthless ending of AOT to be the last we ever get of them. But wow the story just got bad after Marley was revealed. Even the worldbuilding kind of stopped after a while. Never saw much beyond Marley or Hizuru or whatever. And where do I start with Eren? I don't think there's any one reason for why he became such a joke at the end, I have nothing nice to say of him. But his treatment of Mikasa and all that crap about the AT showing him the future and having him manipulate everything from the start, so he was a slave the whole time then? Trying to work out exactly how he was ruined is really frustrating. But it's the treatment of Eren's gang and the rest of the SC that I am probably more angry about than Eren himself.
You guys did awesome 👍🏻 😎 I'm indebted to you for asoiaf. It's been a blast and what a huge, deep and rich world!! I stand in agreement AoT doesn't deserve talk. Keep up the great content!!
nah AOE is inevitable, Isayama is not an idiot. i have faith in him. The first timelime eren sees in his manga dream is the one we see in 139 were eren and mikasa ran away together and is mikasas dream. The manga timeline is Armins dream, the attempt at making peace with the world. And ANIME ORIGINAL ENDING will be erens will. The death of everyone outside the walls, a horrible twisted act but it will set paradis island and all of his friends free
I wish I had your optimism haha
I don't care what anyone says, in my head cannon, Eren did all of it to turn back Connie's mom and then adopt him as their son and bless Connie with a half sister, Jonnie. It was Connie and Jonnie's incestuous bloodline that eventually led to Isayama's mental incapacity to understand humans and write this absolute piece of trash rumbling arc
You're the one braindead here lmao