2019 / 2020 Toyota Sienna | Reliable, But Is It Relevant?
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- The Toyota Sienna soldiers on with minimal changes for 2019 and 2020 while we wait for a complete redesign expected for the 2021 model year. While we wait for the next gen model, the Sienna is up against tough competition from the inexpensive Grand Caravan (which may be ancient, but it's also crazy cheap), the Honda Odyssey, the fuel-sipping plug-in hybrid Chrysler Pacifica, the family friendly non-hybrid Pacifica and the minivan with a CUV identity crisis: the Kia Sedona. In this world the Sienna fights back with available AWD, the only minivan in America offering that feature and standard active safety doodads. The eternal question is: is that enough to combat the family friendliness and/or fuel efficiency of the competition?
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New development! On 5/1/19 Toyota announced that a software update WILL BE AVAILABLE SOON to add CarPlay and Alexa support to the Sienna. No word on Android Auto yet.
In which month do you you expect a complete refresh with Safety Sense 2.0? You mentioned the 2021 will be a new generation. Is it in 2020 March? Is a hybrid expected? I don’t mind waiting for a model with Safety Sense 2.0.
@@CanadaSocial I sell Toyota's, the new generation is slated to be hybrid, with the TSS 2.0 for Full Speed Radar Cruise and LTA instead of LDA
So it looks like Toyota is now bringing OTA updates to their new models. That’s a huge change from old models.
I can’t pay that price for the aging styling and technology 🤷🏼♂️
I wish toyota and honda would implement stow away 2nd row seats to their vans...
I’m a single, young guy and I drive a minivan. It always baffles me when I hear people with kids saying they’d NEVER buy a minivan. If only they knew how practical they are...
Is it really that baffling? Minivans say "I'm a vanilla family man that has forgone excitement for dad practicality".
WesleyButtercup I’ve driven most 3-row crossovers, and none of them have brought me much excitement either.
WesleyButtercup A highlander or pilot has 0 more excitement in my opinion, and they don’t even look any better than a van. I can see a CUV vs Van argument when you move upmarket to a Porsche Cayenne for example or BMW x5m, Jeep GC SRT8...
Very cool that you drive a minivan/box truck! Which one do you drive?
Is it the reliable Sienna???
Not married and no kids, but still decided to watch the review by Alex
The Sienna is the best vehicle ever crafted by human-kind. I'd call that relevant. Add that to its great qualities of reliability, fuel efficiency, safety, comfort, and sheer f*cking style.
Sincerely,
A 29-year old bachelor and proud owner of a 2004 AWD LE that kicks serious ass (~175,000 miles and counting). And yes, that AWD is a big part of its greatness. I took my Sienna snowboarding in snowy mountain passes 70 times last winter, including through a blizzard. Ever stuck? Nope.
P.S. minivans are superior to literally every other automobile type. Boom, I said it. Also, crossovers are like reject mutant cars that developed not knowing what the hell they are. Is it a car? Is it an SUV? I don't know, but it looks stupid as hell.
👍😁
Question: What is the best three row crossover?
Alex's answer: Just buy a minivan. 😎
It makes sense but I never like when somebody redirects a question which I have. He's answering a question that nobody asked. People ask about SUVs because they do not want a minivan in many cases.
Calvin Hikes except people do or should ask that question because it’s important to be knowledgeable when spending $40k.
Because people who dont tow or dont have more than 3 kids still drive around in Tahoe, Suburbans and Sequoias.
I agree, but the basis of this was my sister in law who really, really needed a minivan but was resisting one. She finally gave in and admits that it was the best thing she ever did because she was the kind of person who really needed the third row space AND the third row room only a minivan can provide outside of a Suburban.
If you want people/cargo hauling capability not much can top a mini van. It fits in a standard garage and any parking space.
I wish the negative stigma towards minivans didn't exist. They just so practical. Not to mention downright luxurious by modern standards. Add in AWD and there isn't much need for a crossover (or many SUVs) for a many people. Too bad 'image' is more important that actual usefulness to the American consumer.
Image is mainly a north American phenomenon.
@@planetstupider502 yes, because all those middle east oil tycoons and Chinese businessmen only drive around in subcompacts. 🙄
@@vincepalaa I take it your being sarcastic. i was referring to the average Joe's and not tycoons.
Specifically this market where people prefer suvs and cuvs because they look "hipper" than vans. Even though in reality most of these "sport Utility" vehicles are nothing more than repackaged station wagons.
True. Roomier n more practical too.
@coffeeinthemorning I drove one for about 30minutes.. days later I bought a super clean pearl white Sienna limited with the 3.3 vvti. I am absolutely in love with miss piggy 🤩👍
But remember that the Chrysler will start falling apart at 50K, whereas the Siena should be good for 250K.
I sold my parents 2011 Caravan and we kept the 2007 Sedona. Better paint finish, no rust anywhere, doors not rattling, no transmission hesitation, better brakes
Except that's not even remotely true. I'm not sure about the Pacifica but the Grand Caravan is simple, cheap, and durable. Plenty of people in my gardening club have them with 200k+ miles with mostly regular service.
@@fighter835 I have a grand caravan with 220,000+ with some issues that caused. Runs good though.
@@edwardg9695 you talk about Sedona?
@@mon7563 Yes. My Sedona is holding up so much better than the Caravan. The biggest was rattling sliding doors. The second is finish and rust. The Caravan has a soft bumper that dimples with stone chips. The pressed steel oil pan has no shield and was starting to rust through. Some rust starting on the rocker welds. I maintain my cars exceptionally well and found it better to cash out of the 2011 Caravan and keep the older Sedona.
In America, stigma and perception overrule common sense.
Dear God it's amazing how true that is LOL.
These are like the official car of UberXL
oldschool1 At least America has minivans. Good luck finding them in Europe.
Human nature. Not just an American thing
Sooo true! We’ll get better.
That legroom chart sliding with the sliding doors was a clever touch.
For some reason I was blown away by the editing at 5:30.
Scott You’re not the only one
Lol I've done things like that in my videos
Ha lo
Its pretty basic imo
Alex has certainly got the choreography down 8)
Best all round vehicle on the market!
My 98 Sienna is retiring to BCS
With 400 k’s !
Dream Minivan:
Odyssey's Tech
Sienna's Reliability, engine, transmission, and quality
Pacifica's Stow and Go Seats, 2nd Row
Amen brother
And dodge demon hp. lol seriously why don't they make a van with some hp?
Yeah man the decision is hard
I’m 18 years old and I still watched the whole video.
Wow. Great review. I’ve watched a couple other Alex on Autos reviews and they were also fully engaging no waisted time and complete.
Oh yes, my favorite minivan, Two main reasons, Reliability and AWD!
I've owned only one minivan, a Mazda MPV in the 1980's As I recall it was the only AWD minivan available at the time. Utterly reliable. And the AWD may well have saved my wife's and my life when I managed to get it in a ditch on a logging road (more a mountain trail) in heavy snow high in the Washington Cascades in early spring. Had we not been able to get it back on the road we would have had a very long, difficult hike to any semblance of help. Left me with a soft spot for Mazda that I have to this day.
And it makes me wonder why Toyota is the only manufacturer to offer AWD on a minivan. Considering its value in a large, heavy vehicle and how popular and trendy AWD is, it's a puzzle.
Chrysler Pacifica is also doing well on initial quality study.
@@huskydinosaur2860 It is, and the looks of it, is just very attractive. It is on my top 2 very close with this Sienna.
@@stephenhendricks103 I hear you sir. The MPV was definitely a very strong minivan. To bad it got discontinued. I'm glad it got you and your wife, out of that situation alive🙇🏻♂️
@@stephenhendricks103
The competitors do offer AWD in mini vans, vans and MPV but just not in the North American market.. Mitsubishi had a mini van with 4X4 and two low range modes in the trans case.. but just not here
Wow, excellent review packed full of information!
I rented one of these last year going from Seattle to Vancouver, I was very pleased with this van. The V6 motor is buttery smooth. I own a Honda Odyssey and I have to say that I would consider this one if I need to buy another van but my kids are getting older and my days of family road trip vacations are coming to an end. Nothing beats a mini van for hauling people and stuff.
I think so. It's honestly one of the best looking minivans in my opinion. I wouldn't mind getting one. I see them all the time used and they look like a good buy.
Very good video to learn about these Vans thanks for uploading. I just saw a Consumer Reports article where it says Toyota sienna is recommended over Honda Odyssey. 😊
Even if some of the features are old, the Sienna will always be the most reliable and convenient minivan you can get.
Thanks for great review, as always! The natural progression from this video seems to be review of a Ford Transit Connect Wagon, which I don't find in your videos library... Any plans to do that?
My family still has a 06 Sienna and is the original owner. Has 170K miles and runs strong.
Same here. I also have a 2006 sienna. Original owner. 350,000 miles. Never had a single problem.
@Shawn Kemp Other than oil changes, batteries, tires, and one time, my alternator, nothing. I take care of all my cars. Preventative maintenance :)
Mine is 190k 2006 sienna. Nothing major, just regular maintenance. My dad's oddysey has all sorts of fixes...lots of money spent.
I will get another sienna if they make it look better than the Honda next year.
262,000 and running fine. front end is wearing down now but I too am also 14 years older.
Best minivan out there. We LOVE ours.
Great review. It would be interesting to know the max cargo capacity details for all the minivans, height from the ground for example is hard to find.
Very appreciative of detailed review & objectivity. Also, Pacifica hybrid loses 2nd row stow & go seats due to battery placement; worth noting.
this channel deservers more viewers
About the heavy mid row seat removal ... if you are able to finish your home basement yourself with drywall , so lifting these seats should'nt be a problem .
Hey Alex, I always watch your videos & find them very helpful.
I’m planning to get the new 2019 mazda 3. What is your take on that?
Wow. This guy really loves the Pacifica, doesn't he?
no SUV can compare to a van in people moving and comfort
I've compared the 3rd row legroom of large SUVs and you're right. The minivan always wins.
If you are want comfort and safety, no car in the world beats Volvo.
You don't realize what seat comfort means until you seat in Volvo.
This is coming from me as I have drive everything from Yugo to 480,000 Rolls Royce. For the money, Volvo cars safety and comfort are as good as $200K cars.
@@meenam300zx yeah, Volvo so safe, I'd stand in front of it and test it's safety systems on me
says the voldiot who got ran over
Wow....excellent review and presentation. The minivan is one of the most practical designs in automotive history and just right for people that need or want them. For many DYI homeowners, small business or handy-persons the minivan is the best truck they have ever owned. An SUV is big, but nowhere as space efficient as a minivan, and while they may carry up to eight people, the minivan is far more comfortable (& less claustrophobic) for 8. For anyone that wants or needs a minivan and does not need all the flash and bells and whistles, the Grand Caravan is a decent choice and much more affordable or find a gently used one to save even more. The 6-speed transmission is just fine. Each brand has its pros and cons, so buyers should definitely test drive each for an extended time. There are people with 300,000+ miles on Dodge Caravans/Chrysler T&C with no serious problems, and I have known folks with a Sienna with 60,000 miles that had all sorts of expensive repairs.
I imagine the next version of the Sienna will be quite amazing, but also very expensive. Let's hope it is not ugly.........😮
When you do the palisade review can you do the same baby seat comparison? Center walk through/trying to get out from the back or middle.
i was never a fan of minivans before but you CANNOT DENY the space and comfort minivans offer. prob the cheapest way to fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back without having to go to a super huge suv. the AWD is a big plus. cant wait till they finally redesign it with even more room. very common work van for small contractors.
Car & Driver just published some photos of the next Sienna.
Excellente Alec... I have a 2005 Sienna so I would probably opt for the Sienna do to dependability...
I had a 2004 sienna awd with 220,000 drove all over usa now I have a xle awd sienna 2013 and love it this vans are amazing
Thanks for the great video. My wife and I are in the market for a Sienna.
I've test driven them all and my family decided on the 2018 Odyssey Elite. Best bang for your buck especially when You look at how well they maintain their value.
Someone I know bought a Pacifica in 2017. Been in the shop more than at home. They're going to eat the cost and get a Honda or Toyota.
I suffered the same Chrysler blues, not long ago. Now I'm in a Honda and couldn't be happier.
Minivan shines in many ways. Actual usable 3rd row, awd, and a v6 (mostly).
Bought a '19 Sienna SE AWD a few months ago and it is perfect for me and my family of 4. Very comfortable, good power, storage, and classic Toyota reliability. AWD was a huge factor, which does very well in winter.
Still?
@@LoreDeluge Yes, it's been super reliable and has had no issues after 4 years of ownership. Tons of trips and never left us stranded, excellent in the snow with the right tire. We got 5 kids 1 more i may need an 8 seater, otherwise it's great!
Love the all-wheel drive capability but it comes with those weird run-flat tires which can't be swapped out from the rims. So while it's spacious and has four-wheel drive it really can never be used off road unless you do some serious modifications. Otherwise I would own one of those instead of a big fat SUV.
Another great review - everyone support Alex. Thanks for the great comparison to the Pacifica Hybrid. I own one and two Siennas, and am glad I bought the PacHy. 30,000 miles and spent only $1500 in gas. Toyota is letting the Sienna slide, I wouldn't be surprised if they let it die as sales are sliding for the model and sales for minivans are sliding overall to the trendy and less useful crossovers.
Sienna Van's will always be made.
The very best and complete comparisons of these vans and crossovers. Thanks Alex, for an unbiased and detailed report that points out all the pros and cons of what a consumer would be looking for. Excellently done and nothing left out that we need to know. Keep it coming!
Awesome, fucken review!!!
I have a 2011 Siana SE I tow my motorcycle trailer with it. Over the eight years that I have owned it has been extremely reliable basic maintenance and two minor recalls involving the sunroof button and power door mechanism.
I have had a 2013 Sienna LE since new and have never been very happy with it.
Cons:
1. Eats tires. Expect 25k miles per set no matter how much you spend.
2. Creaks and rattles.
3. Fuel economy has always been below what it is supposed to get. We average 17 city and have never seen better than 23 on the highway.
4. The drivers power seat failed at about 65k miles and would have been a $1000 repair at the dealer if not for the extended warranty we purchased.
5. Not as quiet as I would have liked.
Pros:
1: It has been very reliable other than the power seat failure.
2. Plenty of power.
3. Handles a trailer fairly well.
4. Very comfortable second and third row seats. Average in the front I would say.
5. Lots of cup holders.
6. Very effective for hauling building materials.
One other thing of note is that while the second row seats are more difficult to get out of the way than they are in the Chrysler, I find them to be much more comfortable than the Stow-N-Go seats.
SuperIthar you had a basic trim. You need to get the Limited.
After being burned on the Honda Odyssey VCM system....I would probably go for the Sienna as our next minivan.
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I love my Sienna so much.
I have a 19 sienna AwD. I love the 2gr that it has. I have a downpipe, and full exhaust on it and smoked a GTI with Cobb access port and a stock WRX. All this while my wife and kid were in the car.
I suggest next time you drag, that you not have kids in the car.. yr wife well whatever,😁👍
😮 what for real? 😅
I see more Sienna minivans on the road than any other brand. The closest competitor, Honda Odyssey, looks like a space ship/hearse. It’s ugly. On a daily basis I see many older Siennas from the 1990s on the road, can’t say for Honda. If you want your moneys worth, buy a Toyota.
Yes the odyssey is creepy looking
Dodge caravan 2018 sales 151,000. Honda. 107,000. Toyota. 87,000
Alex: do you think any of the small minivans available in Japan (like Freed, StepWGN or the smaller version of the Oddysey) have any chance in being accepted anywhere outside of Japan?
They are amazing - I drive a Honda N-box and can fit more stuff for the road to it than to L RX. ;)
That with two passengers only of course ;)
My next vehicle will be either Honda Freed or StepWGN AWD. The utility offered is amazing and I can always install a suspension lift ;)
I have the 2015 Sienna SE. got an aftermarket roof rack too. Still going.
Only issue I had was the radio head unit malfunctioning. It rebooting and resetting itself.
I LOVE THIS MINIVAN
Minivan attest: Vacation to Phoenix. 7 adults, each with 22 inch roller bags PLUS 4 sets of golf clubs. Chrysler Pacifica rental swallowed all the luggage, bags and passengers. No sweat. And it was a relaxed, quiet, comfortable cruiser. Recommend no doubt. Much better than even a full-size Suburban.
Can you please do a review on Chevrolet Traverse after the pandemic over ? Hope to see you soon ❤️
Didn't see the Telluride in the leg room comparison, was it not one of the comparable 3 row vehicles?
Also, I know it's speculation, but do you think the time lag on a lot of Toyota suv and minivan updates are due to something revolutionary, though they tend to not make huge changes (ie hybrid)?
So much room for activities!
When you close the third row seats, is there something on the floor to cover the folded seats, or do have to put items on top of the folded seats?
I love these things
So what trim level is the one in the cover photo? You didn't drive that one in the video. I like the look of it.
I looked at the Chrysler Pacifica but guess what...the recalls are piling up and owner are trading them in after a year of ownership because of reliabiilty issues. That leaves the Kia Sedona as the best combo of price and cost of ownership. Too bad Chrysler can't figure out how to build a reliable vehicle.
We are closing in on fifty years since the last reliable Chryslers left the assembly plants. I am talking about the Valiant and Dart.
Unless you’re towing something this with AWD is the best 3 row thing on the market.
Brady Bisgard it really depends on what you do with it. The second row seats are too difficult to manage compared to the Chrysler duo. It also feels bulkier than any other minivan.
Russell 747 new ones aren’t, but Chrysler did make AWD ones recently.
Russell 747 Toyota absolutely does make this Sienna with All-Wheel-Drive.
Our dealership has several of these that are shuttle vans, they have nearly 300k on them and they run great.
I want a Hybrid AWD. Electric Ac and no idling. Ultimate sleep overnight with AC van.
It may already be developed but being held back until they can ask $70,000.
your wish has been granted. 35 mpg, and the base price of the new hybrid Sienna is not higher than the old one (although if you want the awd minivan you will obviously be paying more than the regular fwd minivan).
What about Buick Enclave 3rd row? That car seems to have pretty large space left with 3rd row seats up.
Is there an updated review for 2019 Pacifica hybrid?
Alex, as a lifelong auto enthusiast, I've come to consider you a thorough, fair, objective & informative journalist. Here, cross comparing 3-row SUVs with minivans, I think you've muddied the waters (and unfairly set the Sienna up for failure in the process).
sienna is very best man ever , how ever sienna needs for sure the built-in vacoom cleaner and interior cabin watch cameras.
Reliability is number one for me, which would be my main reason for buying this.... However. Can't wait to see the complete redo of this van would be nice! 👌
When is the Sienna not relevant? It’s the best minivan to get.
Consumer Reports is giving the new Honda Odyssey bad ratings, you may be right.
And remember that fca reliability isn’t the best. I don’t really believe that the Pacifica hybrid’s savings will compensate for any issues needed to be fixed at the dealer.
And I agree that the sienna is relevant even if it’s dated. Remember it has class leading cargo space, AWD, safety, etc. plus efficiency is very similar to the other minivans
I have heard that the 8-speed in the camry is not too good not like the six-speed that it replaced so is this the same 8 speed going in the Sienna?
Do you have any spy photos of the next generation all new 2021 Total Redesign Toyota Sienna new minivan?
Finally!!
The title answers it's own question. It's relevant because it's so reliable. There aren't that many players in the segment and none come close to it's reliability.
18:25...funny you said that. I popped a brand new tire on my Mazda2 when parking because I hit the curb turning into the spot. It can happen! I didn't buy the road hazard...so I was pissed at myself!
Gas price is high at the moment, don’t know why Toyota still has not brought the Hybrid/plugin hybrid version to America. Poor North America market.
If you have kids and people to transport, nothing beats a minivan. Plus it's a fantastic car for home Depot runs.
Recently bought a 2019 Sienna SE with Costco pricing. I passed on the Pacifica because of the awful reliability (look at the forums) and the Odyssey because of them downgrading the A/C system and also some reliability issues. The Sienna is older yes but they have done a decent job keeping pace with the safety tech on it and it should prove more trouble free that it's competitors.
May I ask how much you paid with Costco pricing. ?? Also which model?
I wish towing was included in this review. I think it effects the results if the top pick is a hybrid.
If this isn’t TSS-P 2.0, does that mean that adaptive cruise stops working at 28 mph (like the 2018 Avalon and the 2017-2019 Highlander?) If so, that makes it useless for stop and go traffic :-( And what is the minimum cruise set point? 28 mph? To me, this really makes the Toyota system unsuitable for me (I have neuropathic foot pain and require full speed range ACC with a minimum set point of 25 mph.
I don’t know of an ACC system that lets me turn on cruise as slow as 15 mph except for the 2015/16 Mazda CX-5. Alex, what is your experience? Any other adaptive cruise control systems that can be engaged at 15 mph? Our local schools have changed the speed limit to 15 mph recently.
The new Toyota sienna come in four-cylinder only is there an issue with the engine? Big car but small engine why they didn’t make a V6?
I own a 2017 honda odyssey and I had to run with a toyota Sienna 2018 for 2 month and well, both are reliable car. The main 2 differences I,d say are the seats/suspensions and the motor, transmussin coupling. honda seats are firm and same for the suspension. It feel a little more sporty. I personaly don't anjoy the toyota seats, they are too soft for my taste but the suspension is nicely balanced I,d say. Not to soft but not so stiff so road bump are almost not a concern on the sienna. But I just hated how the gas pedal works on the sienna. It is not a linear as the Honda ones. Despite beeing faster on the 0 to 60mph when you drive it its just feel slower. You are constantly reminded that you are driving a minivan in the sienna while the odyssey really feel like it is ready to accelerate at anytime. Get the Sienna if you prefer the boat like ride that is confortable and the odyssey if you want some good driving feeling I'd say.
Hi Alex on Autos justo Wang to say guay tve backups lights are LEDFREE ANF YOU NEED TO INSTALL THEM BECAUSE THERF ARE 9 LED'S AND THE GOG LIGHTS ARE UN_LED'S.
I think the Kia Sedona is right in the middle between the Sienna and the Odyssey when it comes to ride and handling.. the Sedona feels like an Elantra out on the road learning it throu some corners than for what it's physical size would imply
So you're saying all 3, Sienna, Odyssey, and Pacifica can take a full 4x8 sheet laying flat? I've seen conflicting reports on this.
Alex please show the back up camera, I just don’t understand why you don’t bother to show the back camera?
Alex, does the Sienna have the ESS (start/stop system) that was introduced with the 2017 engine and 8 speed transmission update on the Highlander? I don't see a disable button anywhere.
I have a '20, there is (thankfully) no Auto Start/Stop. I hate that feature
This van is much older than the last 2011 redesign. The guts of this van outside of the powertrain are still the K-body, which is what debuted in 2004.
Only things that changed were the engine and transmission, but the suspension, frame, and design are basically 16 years old. These vans were dead reliable back in 2004, as they go over 300K normally today, and there is no reason that a 2019 can't do the same thing.
Amazing how Toyota can stretch their engineering and design dollars so damn far. It is a basically a 2003 model with just powertrain and cosmetic updates, and it is still the best minivan on the market bar none in my view. The 2021 model is going to kick ass Im sure
One thing weird about this van is the seat on the driver side is little bit tilted to the left. Why is that?
Can't wait to see the odyssey sport!
did a 3 day road trip, we needed all 3 rows and trunk space; none of the 3 row SUVs could cut it, at all, laughablly so.. the Chrysler Minivan though, ate it up and then some
Carpediem06 minivans cannot be beat... EXCEPT for two Fords. The Flex and the Explorer have excellent three row seating and GIANT trunk spaces with the third row up.
@@afcgeo882 we checked out the Durango, Highlander, and Journey in order, even the Durango, couldn't fit all our gear (believe me, riding a minivan was not on our to do list), but it was the only thing that could do it (they didn't have an Explorer or Flex for us that I remember)..
Carpediem06 yeah, none of the above would fit as much. You know there are brands outside the FCA right?
George L expedition is massive
Anthony Molina the Expedition is massive, but has little trunk space behind the third row. You’d need an Expedition XL to get that. The Explorer actually has more trunk space with the third row up.
It is very unlikely that you would buy 4x8 sheets on a whim. I would take Toyota's seats over the thin stow solution. You could lay a piece of plywood over the rails to prevent them from damaging fragile sheets. Great review as usual!
I missed my old 08 Sienna....
are the ride quality same in all trim level?
Will the next generation sienna be a lot bigger and better than the current version?
Drove it (and a bunch of other vehicles) and ended up in a CX-9. I thought the driver's area was a let down for comfort and feel and since we rarely use the 3rd row or all the cargo capacity, the extra space back there wasn't a big selling point.
A couple of things...My understanding is if you buy an AWD Sienna mini van you not only lose the spare tire but it comes with run flat tires which many people don't like. Secondly, it is also my understanding that if you buy a Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid you lose the ability to fold the 2nd row seats into the floor.
True.
I inherited my parents 11 AWD when they wanted to get a newer 19. I have mixed feelings about the packaging compromise but I understand it. maybe someday they'll use electric motors in the rears instead of running the drive through the area. I bought a cheap (compact) spare and I'm considering carrying it and getting non run-flats when tire change is due soon
Sienna is just perfected and refined.. it would need some kind of major differentiation for its new generation and not just packing on tech
Had the Pacifica hybrid for a weekend. It’s awesome but no Stow n Go. Gas mileage was about the same honestly, probably 23 mpg. I’d get the regular one in “S” trim.
Anyone in here looking to make a van conversions with new Sienna models? Can anyone else elaborate on that seat floor bar next to the door? Is it removable?
Why sienna's 2011- 2014 models have eld tail lights, and 2015 and newer don't, except the SE model 2011- 2019 all have eld tail lights???🧐