I have my Pelagos 39 for almost 2 weeks now, my bezel also felt "gritty" at first, but after playing with it for some time it now feels just as smooth as any other Tudor diver bezel imo. Obviously, mine doesn't come off when gripping it though... Also I honestly love the "pointy" shield, it looks great and makes it easy to open the clasp, but it never hurt my finger, it's not like it's a knife point after all. The titanium makes it incredibly light weight, it's a pleasure to wear all day every day. I might be biased as a owner, but overall I love the watch and it's specs. It might not be the most exciting watch, but it's the best diver for my personal preferences for sure, it just wears too good and comfortably. Still, great review though!
Also had mine for about a month, never had the pointy shield issue as i always open the clasp as how the sales person demonstrated at the Tudor boutique: using your thumb and index fingers to grab the sides of the clasp instead of using your finger nail on the shield. The lume on the hands are definitely weaker than the hour marks. It’s a little disappointing. Wish they have fixed it by now but I suspect it had to do with the depth of the lume material not nearly as thick as the hour marks, probably something hard to fix at the point without major redesign. My observation with the bezel is that it has a little bit back and forth play in any position other than 12 o’clock. Not sure if it’s common with all timing bezels as it’s my first movable bezel watch.
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews This isn't anything new, all bezels on all watches are lose for a reason. You can knock one off a $50,000 Rolex as well. It snaps right back on. Is this the first dive watch you've ever seen?
I have this watch and I’ve asked the AD to send the bracelet back to Tudor. It’s so damn sharp and uncomfortable. Hoping they can polish some edges. Also, the Shield on the clasp!! Who ever thought that was a good design?! It’s cut me up a number of times. Whilst the bracelet has gone back, I’ve been wearing it on the rubber which is very comfortable and looks really good as long as you don’t mind the casual look. The bezel is totally fine but 60 click is a little disappointing and certainly not the best quality out there. Aesthetically, the bezel looks great. The dial however, under direct light is like a mirror and feels a bit cheap. Bizarrely, when the watch sits on your wrist and is viewed from a steep angle it looks fantastic and is more legible than any other watch I’ve seen. You really have to question their decision on the lume on the hands. You can see the rest of the watch clearly at night just not the hands. Finally, the size for me is perfect. It sits on the wrist much better than a modern Sub. I’m conflicted over this watch. So much to love, let down by strange design decisions and possibly a lack of QC before the watches leave the factory. Alas, the perfect watch doesn’t exist.
Your criticisms are all valid. I agree that Tudor has slipped up here a bit. That clasp is downright dangerous. The bezel action and the fact it popped off in your hand is simply not acceptable. Thanks for the cold hard facts , I appreciate it when a reviewer tells it like it is.
After years of watching watch reviews I always thought the wimpiest complaint I've ever heard was reviewers whinning about having to pull their watch's crowns out an extra 1/16 of an inch to get past the God aweful, life ruining "Ghost Position", with some even declaring a ghost position on a watch as a "Buy/No Buy" item. Really??? Then a watch buddy told me to check out this video. The point on the foldover hurts your wittle finger? Every time you put on or remove your watch, mommy has to kiss a boo-boo? SMH😑
This made me laugh 😂 yes mummy does kiss it better and boo-boo is gone. I do get what you’re saying but if I bought a luxury car and the handle cut me each time I got in and out unless I “used it right” …..it wouldn’t be good now would it? Appreciate the laugh 🙂
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Figured I'd get a laugh out of someone with that, but I should be the last to talk, seeing as I'm "That Guy" that refuses to buy any watch with hollow endlinks (unless of course I already have plans to swap out the bracelet prior to purchase) Carry on Esbjorn ☮
@@DarthPlaya Haha, yes we all have our quirks...I have a weird tendency to remove all bracelets anyway and just put my watches on erika straps so don't know why I'm complaining🙄 Thanks for being here mate ☮out
It’s good to see the negatives as well as the positives, the bezel looks like an issue but I’m not sure about the bracelet apart from the 21mm lug width. With my Tudor clasp I always pull it out from the sides.
Yeah I know what you're saying, it's far from life/death issue but it could be done better is all. I measure the lug width at 20.5 so it seems you could fit 20mm straps which opens up alternatives! Thanks for your comment
I have a p39 since it’s release date and it seems like maybe you got a dud. The lume is better than my 3 rolex’s and the bezel action is spectacular. If it feels gritty maybe some dust got under it. The same thing happens to my pepsi just use some soap and hot water and rotate the bezel
Esborn, thanks for the honest critique of this watch! You’re probably the first honest reviewer to cut past the marketing hype, & I hope your mate gets the issues fixed or his money back. I certainly won’t throw $6k at this when you show those issues. I’m a big fan of Ti watches for easy daily wear, enjoying big sis Pelagos, Omega, Draken Kruger, Seiko, & even a Tactical Frog! All have superior Lume that glows as you walk indoors & is still glowing at 5 am, all comfy without sharp edges, great functional bezels, and easily transition to alternate straps. Thanks for your great review⚓️
Hopefully one off QC issues. I feel I would want to try the clasp for myself but thanks for pointing this out. Personally I would not use the diving extension, so it’s not an issue for me, but again good to know. I think I could love it anyway despite these flaws, it’s just such a looker and such a great size. Nice balanced review.
I’ve heard about the shield stabbing issue before, such a design flaw. I think your friend has a lemon. Bad bezel, bad lume. Tudor has a history of making the occasional lemon, such as the BB GMT with the date issue. I’ve heard people say it’s fixed, then I read about refurbished BB GMTs having the same issue. Btw, not sure if you know, but Tudor uses the “hot swap” service model. Meaning, you send in your Tudor for service and they pull out your movement and plop in someone else’s refurbished movement. Then your movement is serviced and is put in another watch sent in for service. Some people don’t care, but I do. I want MY movement serviced and put back into MY watch. Kenissi makes many of the Tudor movements now, so I don’t consider the movement in this watch “in-house,” even though Tudor owns 80% of Kenissi. Kenissi movements are used in multiple other watch brands and every one calls theirs “in-house.” Also, remember Tudor SA has never manufactured a single watch component, and never will. They are an assembly/testing/marketing company. However, they do use high quality all Swiss third-party components, so they make quality watches at reasonable prices.
So true about the assembly game in swiss watch making. Better than the catalog watch companies like Christopher ward, but many truly do the disign, machining, and movement builds. If not, just be honest about it. Learned a lot from the horage supersede love streams that made me want to support them with a purchase
I have huge problems with the bezel on my Pelagos 39. Whenever I have contact with water on the watch, the bezel becomes difficult or impossible to turn until the water drips out or dries out. I sent it to Tudor, who replaced the ball bearing on the bezel. Despite the service, I still have the same problem. We even tested the Pelagos models 39/42 at AD under water, they all had the same problem, that can't be right?
Had to come here because I was so surprised. The shield - is not sharp and the lume is great too, by the toughest of measures. I've had no bezel issues and any bezel will pop off if you want it too. How many divers are going to wear this watch let alone struggle with the dive extension with cold fingers! I really feel you must have been fishing for views by trying to stand out with odd, controversial comments.
The bezel came off through simply twisting the bezel in an absolutely normal fashion and it would be unethical to not report exactly that in a watch review. The amount of comments here questioning me rather than Tudor doesn’t stop surprising me tbh. If this was a microbrand, people would keep piling on the criticisms but somehow a very expensive watch from a reputable brand turns into a “you’re using it wrong”. Perhaps the simple answer is that early models were not up to scratch in all the areas I found but this has since been fixed. Thanks for your comment, I’m genuinely glad yours is fine since I love Tudor watches generally.
I did wonder that about the clasp, silly design. Sadly Tudor qc can be hit and miss. Once sent back the bezel issues will be resolved. I will get one soon and like you will provide ho way views.
Thank you for this video. It helped cement that my choice is the LHD. I love Pelagos and I want this watch to take whatever life throws in its face, including salted water from the sea and not show a care. This and rocking it on my left wrist will be awesome.
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews yes, also helps the fact the crown is on the left. I already have an almost permanent damaged spot with darker scar tissue on my wrist from crowns digging in when I wear my watches. I like them a bit loose to help with my wrist expanding during the day. So, it may be a distro watch for the right-handed, but me being lefty - it's like a godsend: a Pelagos with a left crown. I think the 39 looks good, but a "true" Pelagos it is not, as you said.
I agree about the lume. It may have been a dealbreaker for me. Very odd where id rather the hands be stronger than the markers... as for the bezel... I'll wait for v2 !
The reason the lume lasts longer on the indices than the hands is because they are mono block lumps of pure lume where the hands are metal with less lume inserted into them and as such will not glow for as long. Hope this helps explain it
its not the perfect watch, I tried it on in store, I didn't like the dial, its a bit stark. Case and bracelet very nice, it was light and that made it feel cheap. Good review.
You clearly have a defective watch with that bezel and diver extension/clasp issue. Also, the Tudor Shield in the clasp, I have no issues with and makes it easier to open in fact. I own a Tudor Pelagos 39 and it’s perfect in every way.
The bezel issue you have is a problem. The other issues are nitpicks in my opinion. You find the divers extension difficult to operate. Ok I guess. Bizarre though. You don't like using your finger nails? That's fine, I prefer it but I could see not liking it I guess. But your passion around it reminded me of watching a football player throw themselves to the ground with the slightest of touch. It was a strong reaction to a tiny detail. The lume thing is tricky. They had this amazing lume on the ceramic indices but the hands and bezel aren't as bright. By the way - that's what's happening, not that the hands are dimmer than the rest as you thought (I have the watch and have spent a lot of time observing and enjoying the lume). Anyway should Tudor have manipulated the indices to be less luminescent to match the bezel and hands? Maybe, but that answer isn't obvious to me. Those indices pop. I compared it to my BB58 which also has great lume and these ceramic indices are way brighter. Anyway I think the bezel issue set you off. Like a bad first 10 min of a date and there was no recovering. You seemed to lose your balance.
Thanks for the detailed review. Your gripes are so minor, IMO. (The variation in brightness on the lume--it's basic physics. You simply can't get the same brightness because of the difference in amount of lume deposited onto the needle's surface.) Can't wait to get mine!
Thanks for that, I know what you're saying but on the full size Pelagos, this discrepancy does not exist. The lume is consistent. Regardless, it's a great watch and I'm sure you'll love yours!
Some interesting design flaws you have uncovered here. Very disappointing the bezel came off with such ease. Imagine being under water and having that bezel come off and falling to the bottom of the ocean. Fail.
100% That is the point here ...this is marketed as a serious dive watch and even knocking this ever so slightly on something and have it come off? Dealbreaker. Thanks for the comment.
I was wondering why the bezel would lock at 12. Really not a great feeling. Mine has also gone back to Tudor after only 5 days as my bezel too popped right off and springs flew right off. Not impressed at all and compared to the FXD bezel, this one is far far inferior. Very disappointed and I too hope Tudor can fix this and not just a temporary fix. I have no issues with the sharp logo on the clasp. I also am not bothered by the lume on the hands being slightly dimmer. They are still very visible. Had one been dimmer than the other, then I think that would be an issue. Great review and thank you for pointing out the positives and negatives.
Spot on criticism. I hate that sharp badge on the clasp of my Black Bay Pro. And Tudor with weak hand lume is a known issue, especially their minute hands due to their thin strip of lume. Ridiculous.
I have a similar issue with the bezel. It was hard to rotate at some random point the beginning, but after 20-30 rotations it became "normal". It did not come off yet, but it is strangly "tilting"up or down if pushed on its surface. I want to go back to the dealer for a check up.
I had a look at one on release day and the bezel action was definitely faulty and the bracelet was sharp and not finished very well. It’s a cash grab from Tudor and it looks like a shiny Seiko 🤦🏻♂️
Good review, I got one on order and I’m looking for to having it on my wrist. I’ll keep an eye out for these minor issues when I pick it up….. might be a few months
Thanks, and I'm pretty sure Tudor will get on these early issues quickly. If not, they'll definitely take responsibility to fix. It wears beautifully so all the best
I dont really mind the pointy shield but I do dislike the recess around it. little pieces of fuzz and water spots etc get in there and it is very hard to get in there with a cloth or shirt or whatever and wipe it off. Also, Im not sure about other tudor divers but the 42mm pelagos has the same issue with the divers extension.
Great review and keen observation . Some of these watches that are mass produce have QC problem. My AD put two Black Bay pro in front of me to choose one . As a I began to wind the watch I heard a strange noise inside the movement and the winding experience felt grainy. The second watch was much different with a very smooth winding and sound . I would recommend checking out these little details before you leave your AD . Sometimes times these malfunction could be a one off , however you don’t want to be the recipient of one faulty watch
On my 2nd one now and still have issues. First one had lume missing on the minute hand so waited for a replacement and now this one has a loose bezel and debri inside the dial 🤦♂️
So disappointing, sorry to hear and hope they make it right for you. Loads of people have left comments saying how wrong I was to point out obvious flaws and yet here you are with even more of them! Hope you get a perfect one eventually
Lovely bezel... action(?), guess it'll be used as a climbing ring in the "wild"! 😋 Or to open the sharp (shield/square "smiley") clasp somehow, right? 😜 Smart(!) lume too. 😲 What an adventurous watch indeed... Tudor fanboys were (long time) asking for a change in this line, got the FXD from the true R&D department, this came out with a little (lousy?) help from the fashion one. 🤪 I'm sure many hesitating to get the old tooly/bulky will get this one. Will it be loved? I doubt, we'll see how many will be sold, second hand, in some months times. I fear many... Cheers mate, another great vid with spon on critic, not many tried that, kudos. Be well.
Yeah, as I was prepping for the review and writing about the bezel (which felt rubbish) that's exactly what happened and now it comes off under only slight pressure.
I was almost bought a LHD because I thought it was just superior to the BB58 which I loved for the aesthetic and size, but felt like was going to be too long until the t-fit made it's way with the gilt styling if it ever did. With that being said, when I learned of the 21mm lug width I went with the horage supersede. It's an "all terrain" watch which is basically a diver with dual time on an integrated bracelet in 904 steel with a 10mm/10 position micro adjust under 10mm in thickness because of the micro rotor. It's 2 watches in one and I am digging it. Only hard part is deciding on what dial color. Ordered white but then saw some photos of the grey that were very striking. Good opportunity to get a non black sports watch as they're common and can always get my next watch with a black dial
The hand lume is not as bright because it is no ware close to as thick. I mean the indices are a chunk of lume not what little amount that would fill the hands. Makes sense the hands die out faster. i bet the indices are bright enough that you can see the hands just fine though.
It is nitpicking a little bit, I agree but there are plenty of other watches that achieve this and chief amongst them have usually been Tudor! This is a rare slip up
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews agreed, This being there second watch with the whole lume cast thing i bet the figure out how to balance it with the hands at some point
Wow, i was saving up for this piece but i am quite shocked about all the issues people seems to experience. That bezel that you took off is just hilariously bad. This is a 4000eu piece!
It was shocking indeed! I'd like to think that it was just early copies and there are an equal amount of people here saying they've had no issues. I would go to a dealer and give your intended exact copy some good testing yourself and hopefully it was just a few early ones with issues. It's still beautiful but very different in quality from the larger 42 that I owned (and reviewed here also). All the best and happy new year :)
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews I've read of lume falling off the 42, and now on this 39. Tudor hasn't learned, it seems... 🤦♂ Which is a shame, given how attractive the Pelagos series are.
The pointed shield is not a design flaw. It looks very nice. I have my BB Pro for 6 months and never got hurt by the pointed shield. This is because I open and close the clasp in the correct way. Those who got hurt has opened the clasp in the wrong way.
@@AlphaConde-qy7vi I am not sure how to describe in words but when you have the watch you should be able to figure out yourself how to open the clasp fast and smooth with zero chance of hurting your finger by the pointed shield. Or there may be video out there demonstrating it.
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews it’s sad that this is such a big issue. I was in constant fear that I might tap the watch against a surface and the bezel might pop off without me realising and I lose it. It’s a shame really, like yourself, I thought this would be the perfect everyday watch.
Tudor seems to constantly dropping the ball when it comes to QC. These kinds of videos (sadly this was not the only one) really makes me think twice before buying any complicated tudor. They seem to do better with simple time only watches.
First of all the presentation of your video, the quality is well above most of the watch crowd videos, the artwork you use, the pace of the video and sound is the best I’ve experienced. I have watched many reviews of the Pelagos 39 and the more I watched, the more I knew I needed one. So recently I was at the Rolex dealer to drop off something for service and glancing at the Tudor display, I spotted the Pelagos, I tried it on and bought it on the spot, what I didn’t realize at the time was that it wasn’t the 39 model, I couldn’t figure out why the name Pelagos wasn’t in red color, eventually the mystery was solved that I had the larger brother of the 39. It has no lume discrepancy, lights up like a sign after briefly being in sunlight and the clasp is the ultimate clasp without having to stab oneself. I have a beautiful sub that hasn’t seen the light of day since I purchased the Pelagos, definitely the best mistake I ever made. Thank you for your review, I am now subscribed.
Thanks so much for these kind words, it’s hugely appreciated. The large one is just so much better in all ways except the size perhaps, but I’m sure Tudor will fix all this for the next version 👍 Thanks for subscribing, glad to have you here!
I used to own a Pelagos LHD and sold it last year when I got the call from my AD for the Submariner 124060 and Pelagos FXD in the same month last November! Love both the Sub 41 no date and FXD however I was still missing the LHD so was intrigued when Tudor released the Pelagos 39. Having watched some reviews and had experience trying it on, I’m not sure if I want to add it to my collection. During my AD visit, l also tried the BB58 Bronze and Sterling Silver which I actually prefer because it had a bit of weight as l thought the P39 was too light.
I have my Pelagos 39 for almost 2 weeks now, my bezel also felt "gritty" at first, but after playing with it for some time it now feels just as smooth as any other Tudor diver bezel imo. Obviously, mine doesn't come off when gripping it though...
Also I honestly love the "pointy" shield, it looks great and makes it easy to open the clasp, but it never hurt my finger, it's not like it's a knife point after all.
The titanium makes it incredibly light weight, it's a pleasure to wear all day every day.
I might be biased as a owner, but overall I love the watch and it's specs. It might not be the most exciting watch, but it's the best diver for my personal preferences for sure, it just wears too good and comfortably.
Still, great review though!
Thanks and I’m glad you like it 🙂👍
I have had mine for about a month now and I had the exact same thing…the bezel action was not great but after rotating it a few times it is now great!
@@base853 good to hear 👍🏻
Also had mine for about a month, never had the pointy shield issue as i always open the clasp as how the sales person demonstrated at the Tudor boutique: using your thumb and index fingers to grab the sides of the clasp instead of using your finger nail on the shield. The lume on the hands are definitely weaker than the hour marks. It’s a little disappointing. Wish they have fixed it by now but I suspect it had to do with the depth of the lume material not nearly as thick as the hour marks, probably something hard to fix at the point without major redesign. My observation with the bezel is that it has a little bit back and forth play in any position other than 12 o’clock. Not sure if it’s common with all timing bezels as it’s my first movable bezel watch.
You found a hidden feature! Looks like Tudor is going to offer a bezel swap option in the future! 😀
Let's hope it's just this one, made on a Monday perhaps! 😬
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews This isn't anything new, all bezels on all watches are lose for a reason. You can knock one off a $50,000 Rolex as well. It snaps right back on. Is this the first dive watch you've ever seen?
@@js0988 no bezels come off through simply using them the way they were intended. Tudor agreed it was faulty and took it back for repairs
This was such a nice review with very valid criticisms. Subscribed!
Thank you so much 😊
I have this watch and I’ve asked the AD to send the bracelet back to Tudor. It’s so damn sharp and uncomfortable. Hoping they can polish some edges.
Also, the Shield on the clasp!! Who ever thought that was a good design?! It’s cut me up a number of times. Whilst the bracelet has gone back, I’ve been wearing it on the rubber which is very comfortable and looks really good as long as you don’t mind the casual look.
The bezel is totally fine but 60 click is a little disappointing and certainly not the best quality out there. Aesthetically, the bezel looks great.
The dial however, under direct light is like a mirror and feels a bit cheap. Bizarrely, when the watch sits on your wrist and is viewed from a steep angle it looks fantastic and is more legible than any other watch I’ve seen.
You really have to question their decision on the lume on the hands. You can see the rest of the watch clearly at night just not the hands.
Finally, the size for me is perfect. It sits on the wrist much better than a modern Sub.
I’m conflicted over this watch. So much to love, let down by strange design decisions and possibly a lack of QC before the watches leave the factory. Alas, the perfect watch doesn’t exist.
Your criticisms are all valid. I agree that Tudor has slipped up here a bit. That clasp is downright dangerous. The bezel action and the fact it popped off in your hand is simply not acceptable. Thanks for the cold hard facts , I appreciate it when a reviewer tells it like it is.
Thanks Alan, appreciate your feedback
After years of watching watch reviews I always thought the wimpiest complaint I've ever heard was reviewers whinning about having to pull their watch's crowns out an extra 1/16 of an inch to get past the God aweful, life ruining "Ghost Position", with some even declaring a ghost position on a watch as a "Buy/No Buy" item. Really??? Then a watch buddy told me to check out this video. The point on the foldover hurts your wittle finger? Every time you put on or remove your watch, mommy has to kiss a boo-boo? SMH😑
This made me laugh 😂 yes mummy does kiss it better and boo-boo is gone. I do get what you’re saying but if I bought a luxury car and the handle cut me each time I got in and out unless I “used it right” …..it wouldn’t be good now would it? Appreciate the laugh 🙂
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Figured I'd get a laugh out of someone with that, but I should be the last to talk, seeing as I'm "That Guy" that refuses to buy any watch with hollow endlinks (unless of course I already have plans to swap out the bracelet prior to purchase) Carry on Esbjorn ☮
@@DarthPlaya Haha, yes we all have our quirks...I have a weird tendency to remove all bracelets anyway and just put my watches on erika straps so don't know why I'm complaining🙄 Thanks for being here mate ☮out
Wow a removable bezel for only $4400! Tudor should be ashamed. The good microbrands today have better quality control.
Viciously stabbed were the last words before I gave up on your video. Oh dear!! What a ridiculous review
Thanks for watching that far 😉😆
Agreed. I still can't believe he complained about that
It’s good to see the negatives as well as the positives, the bezel looks like an issue but I’m not sure about the bracelet apart from the 21mm lug width. With my Tudor clasp I always pull it out from the sides.
Yeah I know what you're saying, it's far from life/death issue but it could be done better is all. I measure the lug width at 20.5 so it seems you could fit 20mm straps which opens up alternatives! Thanks for your comment
I have a p39 since it’s release date and it seems like maybe you got a dud. The lume is better than my 3 rolex’s and the bezel action is spectacular. If it feels gritty maybe some dust got under it. The same thing happens to my pepsi just use some soap and hot water and rotate the bezel
Esborn, thanks for the honest critique of this watch! You’re probably the first honest reviewer to cut past the marketing hype, & I hope your mate gets the issues fixed or his money back. I certainly won’t throw $6k at this when you show those issues.
I’m a big fan of Ti watches for easy daily wear, enjoying big sis Pelagos, Omega, Draken Kruger, Seiko, & even a Tactical Frog! All have superior Lume that glows as you walk indoors & is still glowing at 5 am, all comfy without sharp edges, great functional bezels, and easily transition to alternate straps.
Thanks for your great review⚓️
Thanks so much Jon, there sure are many brilliant Ti options out there 👍🏻
Hopefully one off QC issues. I feel I would want to try the clasp for myself but thanks for pointing this out. Personally I would not use the diving extension, so it’s not an issue for me, but again good to know. I think I could love it anyway despite these flaws, it’s just such a looker and such a great size. Nice balanced review.
Thank you, it's a gorgeous watch for sure. But that lume issue and potential bezel issue is not what you want at the price point.
The issues are all yours mate. I love this watch, no issues here.
Good to hear 👍
I’ve heard about the shield stabbing issue before, such a design flaw. I think your friend has a lemon. Bad bezel, bad lume. Tudor has a history of making the occasional lemon, such as the BB GMT with the date issue. I’ve heard people say it’s fixed, then I read about refurbished BB GMTs having the same issue.
Btw, not sure if you know, but Tudor uses the “hot swap” service model. Meaning, you send in your Tudor for service and they pull out your movement and plop in someone else’s refurbished movement. Then your movement is serviced and is put in another watch sent in for service. Some people don’t care, but I do. I want MY movement serviced and put back into MY watch.
Kenissi makes many of the Tudor movements now, so I don’t consider the movement in this watch “in-house,” even though Tudor owns 80% of Kenissi. Kenissi movements are used in multiple other watch brands and every one calls theirs “in-house.”
Also, remember Tudor SA has never manufactured a single watch component, and never will. They are an assembly/testing/marketing company. However, they do use high quality all Swiss third-party components, so they make quality watches at reasonable prices.
Interesting info, thank you!
So true about the assembly game in swiss watch making. Better than the catalog watch companies like Christopher ward, but many truly do the disign, machining, and movement builds. If not, just be honest about it. Learned a lot from the horage supersede love streams that made me want to support them with a purchase
I have huge problems with the bezel on my Pelagos 39. Whenever I have contact with water on the watch, the bezel becomes difficult or impossible to turn until the water drips out or dries out. I sent it to Tudor, who replaced the ball bearing on the bezel. Despite the service, I still have the same problem. We even tested the Pelagos models 39/42 at AD under water, they all had the same problem, that can't be right?
No that is not acceptable at all! I hope they get it sorted for you.
Had to come here because I was so surprised. The shield - is not sharp and the lume is great too, by the toughest of measures. I've had no bezel issues and any bezel will pop off if you want it too. How many divers are going to wear this watch let alone struggle with the dive extension with cold fingers! I really feel you must have been fishing for views by trying to stand out with odd, controversial comments.
The bezel came off through simply twisting the bezel in an absolutely normal fashion and it would be unethical to not report exactly that in a watch review. The amount of comments here questioning me rather than Tudor doesn’t stop surprising me tbh. If this was a microbrand, people would keep piling on the criticisms but somehow a very expensive watch from a reputable brand turns into a “you’re using it wrong”. Perhaps the simple answer is that early models were not up to scratch in all the areas I found but this has since been fixed. Thanks for your comment, I’m genuinely glad yours is fine since I love Tudor watches generally.
My main problem is that the watch does not feel nor look premium in person, 2 months in it’s heavily scratched and the subtle shine it had is gone.
That’s a shame 🙁
Apparently the lugs are 21mm… don’t know why. Not that it matters- she’s staying on bracelet or the OEM rubber which also looks awesome.
I measured 20 on this but there’s probably a little give I suppose.Tudor rubber straps always 👌
I did wonder that about the clasp, silly design. Sadly Tudor qc can be hit and miss. Once sent back the bezel issues will be resolved. I will get one soon and like you will provide ho way views.
Thank you for this video. It helped cement that my choice is the LHD. I love Pelagos and I want this watch to take whatever life throws in its face, including salted water from the sea and not show a care. This and rocking it on my left wrist will be awesome.
Good to hear, the LHD is in my opinion miles ahead in quality, feel and the aim of the Pelagos range!
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews yes, also helps the fact the crown is on the left. I already have an almost permanent damaged spot with darker scar tissue on my wrist from crowns digging in when I wear my watches. I like them a bit loose to help with my wrist expanding during the day. So, it may be a distro watch for the right-handed, but me being lefty - it's like a godsend: a Pelagos with a left crown. I think the 39 looks good, but a "true" Pelagos it is not, as you said.
Bjorn, thanks for the enlightening review. You definitely are not too harsh. Another case that illustrates that watch manufacturers are poorly run.
Thanks Robert, this one was a surprise to me since Tudor has always delivered the goods!
I agree about the lume. It may have been a dealbreaker for me. Very odd where id rather the hands be stronger than the markers... as for the bezel... I'll wait for v2 !
The reason the lume lasts longer on the indices than the hands is because they are mono block lumps of pure lume where the hands are metal with less lume inserted into them and as such will not glow for as long. Hope this helps explain it
its not the perfect watch, I tried it on in store, I didn't like the dial, its a bit stark. Case and bracelet very nice, it was light and that made it feel cheap. Good review.
Appreciate the honesty.
Thanks, it’s not fun to be this critical but hard to avoid it here
You clearly have a defective watch with that bezel and diver extension/clasp issue. Also, the Tudor Shield in the clasp, I have no issues with and makes it easier to open in fact. I own a Tudor Pelagos 39 and it’s perfect in every way.
Yeah, it was returned for repairs. I’m glad yours is ok 👍🏻
The issues with the clasp are important design topics, thank you for pointing these out.
The bezel issue you have is a problem. The other issues are nitpicks in my opinion. You find the divers extension difficult to operate. Ok I guess. Bizarre though. You don't like using your finger nails? That's fine, I prefer it but I could see not liking it I guess. But your passion around it reminded me of watching a football player throw themselves to the ground with the slightest of touch. It was a strong reaction to a tiny detail. The lume thing is tricky. They had this amazing lume on the ceramic indices but the hands and bezel aren't as bright. By the way - that's what's happening, not that the hands are dimmer than the rest as you thought (I have the watch and have spent a lot of time observing and enjoying the lume). Anyway should Tudor have manipulated the indices to be less luminescent to match the bezel and hands? Maybe, but that answer isn't obvious to me. Those indices pop. I compared it to my BB58 which also has great lume and these ceramic indices are way brighter. Anyway I think the bezel issue set you off. Like a bad first 10 min of a date and there was no recovering. You seemed to lose your balance.
Ah, you seem even more passionate than me here 😆 Tudor will refine this as they always do and we will all be better for it 👍🏻
Esbjorn thank you for the nice review ..like always...very nice watch nice bracelet
Good job tudor
Thanks for the detailed review. Your gripes are so minor, IMO. (The variation in brightness on the lume--it's basic physics. You simply can't get the same brightness because of the difference in amount of lume deposited onto the needle's surface.) Can't wait to get mine!
Thanks for that, I know what you're saying but on the full size Pelagos, this discrepancy does not exist. The lume is consistent. Regardless, it's a great watch and I'm sure you'll love yours!
Some interesting design flaws you have uncovered here. Very disappointing the bezel came off with such ease. Imagine being under water and having that bezel come off and falling to the bottom of the ocean. Fail.
100% That is the point here ...this is marketed as a serious dive watch and even knocking this ever so slightly on something and have it come off? Dealbreaker. Thanks for the comment.
I was wondering why the bezel would lock at 12. Really not a great feeling. Mine has also gone back to Tudor after only 5 days as my bezel too popped right off and springs flew right off.
Not impressed at all and compared to the FXD bezel, this one is far far inferior. Very disappointed and I too hope Tudor can fix this and not just a temporary fix.
I have no issues with the sharp logo on the clasp. I also am not bothered by the lume on the hands being slightly dimmer. They are still very visible. Had one been dimmer than the other, then I think that would be an issue.
Great review and thank you for pointing out the positives and negatives.
Thanks Alvaro and this is interesting to hear, one more with the same issue. Appreciate your comment
that bezel action.. is scary. Nice review and thanks!
Spot on criticism. I hate that sharp badge on the clasp of my Black Bay Pro. And Tudor with weak hand lume is a known issue, especially their minute hands due to their thin strip of lume. Ridiculous.
Yeah on a dive watch, really not ideal
Thank you for the cold, hard honesty in this review. I'm glad that I watched it.
Thanks for the feedback and for watching
I have a similar issue with the bezel. It was hard to rotate at some random point the beginning, but after 20-30 rotations it became "normal". It did not come off yet, but it is strangly "tilting"up or down if pushed on its surface. I want to go back to the dealer for a check up.
Yep that’s exactly how this started on the watch I had. Take it back asap 👍
Must be a fake nothing wrong with mine you should do another video on a different one
It was returned to Tudor and repaired. Definitely not a fake
21mm lug width not 20.
I know what Tudor states, but I measure it at 20.5. Good point though, I should have specified that.
WOW! So jarring to see that bezel fly off lol...
Yeah, minor heart attack 😲
I had a look at one on release day and the bezel action was definitely faulty and the bracelet was sharp and not finished very well. It’s a cash grab from Tudor and it looks like a shiny Seiko 🤦🏻♂️
It’s interesting feedback from you and many, definitely not a one off here
@@PepRex definitely a better price 🤣
Thanks for the review! You saved me there. Better to wait I guess. That lume and bezel is just unforgivable
Yes hopefully they’ll get that fixed up 👍🏻
Good review, I got one on order and I’m looking for to having it on my wrist. I’ll keep an eye out for these minor issues when I pick it up….. might be a few months
Thanks, and I'm pretty sure Tudor will get on these early issues quickly. If not, they'll definitely take responsibility to fix. It wears beautifully so all the best
My jaw dropped in sync with the bezel. WTF
When I was prepping for the review and had this happen....so did mine
I dont really mind the pointy shield but I do dislike the recess around it. little pieces of fuzz and water spots etc get in there and it is very hard to get in there with a cloth or shirt or whatever and wipe it off. Also, Im not sure about other tudor divers but the 42mm pelagos has the same issue with the divers extension.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏻 I didn’t find the extension on the 42 as fiddly but yes, good points you raise
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews it isnt quite as bad as on the 39 but still possible to do if you arent paying attention.
Great review and keen observation . Some of these watches that are mass produce have QC problem. My AD put two Black Bay pro in front of me to choose one . As a I began to wind the watch I heard a strange noise inside the movement and the winding experience felt grainy. The second watch was much different with a very smooth winding and sound . I would recommend checking out these little details before you leave your AD . Sometimes times these malfunction could be a one off , however you don’t want to be the recipient of one faulty watch
Excellent tip, thank you. It makes you want to be very careful buying second hand that's for sure. Thanks for your comment
On my 2nd one now and still have issues. First one had lume missing on the minute hand so waited for a replacement and now this one has a loose bezel and debri inside the dial 🤦♂️
The hands lume is/was weaker than the hour markers and bezel on both watches as well
So disappointing, sorry to hear and hope they make it right for you. Loads of people have left comments saying how wrong I was to point out obvious flaws and yet here you are with even more of them! Hope you get a perfect one eventually
Algo caro para mi presupuesto. Me quedé en un Tag Heuer
No tiene nada de malo, gracias por tu comentario.
Lovely bezel... action(?), guess it'll be used as a climbing ring in the "wild"! 😋 Or to open the sharp (shield/square "smiley") clasp somehow, right? 😜 Smart(!) lume too. 😲 What an adventurous watch indeed...
Tudor fanboys were (long time) asking for a change in this line, got the FXD from the true R&D department, this came out with a little (lousy?) help from the fashion one. 🤪 I'm sure many hesitating to get the old tooly/bulky will get this one. Will it be loved? I doubt, we'll see how many will be sold, second hand, in some months times. I fear many...
Cheers mate, another great vid with spon on critic, not many tried that, kudos. Be well.
Thanks Stavros, you always make me smile 😃👍🏻
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews Fun uber alles! It's just watches, nothing to get mad about, right?
PS Smile, makes others worry...!!! 😉
The bezel actually came off in your hands?
Yeah, as I was prepping for the review and writing about the bezel (which felt rubbish) that's exactly what happened and now it comes off under only slight pressure.
Great review. I won’t now be buying one of those. What a shame. It looked perfect but I wouldn’t accept these issues.
Hopefully improvements come quickly 👍🏻
I was almost bought a LHD because I thought it was just superior to the BB58 which I loved for the aesthetic and size, but felt like was going to be too long until the t-fit made it's way with the gilt styling if it ever did. With that being said, when I learned of the 21mm lug width I went with the horage supersede. It's an "all terrain" watch which is basically a diver with dual time on an integrated bracelet in 904 steel with a 10mm/10 position micro adjust under 10mm in thickness because of the micro rotor. It's 2 watches in one and I am digging it. Only hard part is deciding on what dial color. Ordered white but then saw some photos of the grey that were very striking. Good opportunity to get a non black sports watch as they're common and can always get my next watch with a black dial
Again, another good review. I really do enjoy your content. Hope you friend gets his issue resolved. Thanks for the vid!!
Thanks John 😊
The hand lume is not as bright because it is no ware close to as thick. I mean the indices are a chunk of lume not what little amount that would fill the hands. Makes sense the hands die out faster. i bet the indices are bright enough that you can see the hands just fine though.
It is nitpicking a little bit, I agree but there are plenty of other watches that achieve this and chief amongst them have usually been Tudor! This is a rare slip up
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews agreed, This being there second watch with the whole lume cast thing i bet the figure out how to balance it with the hands at some point
Wow, i was saving up for this piece but i am quite shocked about all the issues people seems to experience. That bezel that you took off is just hilariously bad. This is a 4000eu piece!
It was shocking indeed! I'd like to think that it was just early copies and there are an equal amount of people here saying they've had no issues. I would go to a dealer and give your intended exact copy some good testing yourself and hopefully it was just a few early ones with issues. It's still beautiful but very different in quality from the larger 42 that I owned (and reviewed here also). All the best and happy new year :)
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews I've read of lume falling off the 42, and now on this 39. Tudor hasn't learned, it seems... 🤦♂
Which is a shame, given how attractive the Pelagos series are.
@@AlphaConde-qy7vi Yeah, I'm sure they'll get it sorted. I owned the full size one and had no problems, it was so solid and great (just a bit big).
The pointed shield is not a design flaw. It looks very nice. I have my BB Pro for 6 months and never got hurt by the pointed shield. This is because I open and close the clasp in the correct way. Those who got hurt has opened the clasp in the wrong way.
I’m happy you’re enjoying your BB Pro 👍
And what is this correct way ?
@@AlphaConde-qy7vi I am not sure how to describe in words but when you have the watch you should be able to figure out yourself how to open the clasp fast and smooth with zero chance of hurting your finger by the pointed shield. Or there may be video out there demonstrating it.
Yikes!
I had a chance to look at the display models at 2 different ADs, the bezel action felt gritty on both
Wow, clearly an early model issue here!
the bezel issue is not one off, mine was gritty too and came off. Sold it and bought another watch.
Wow, there is a pattern here! Thanks for the comment
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews it’s sad that this is such a big issue. I was in constant fear that I might tap the watch against a surface and the bezel might pop off without me realising and I lose it. It’s a shame really, like yourself, I thought this would be the perfect everyday watch.
Does grade 2 titanium scratch easier than grade 5
Unsure on that one, but titanium is prone to scratches for sure. See my original Pelagos review for some long term ownership condition
What a great review, thank you! Glad I found your channel.
Thanks so much, glad you’re here 😊
Tudor seems to constantly dropping the ball when it comes to QC.
These kinds of videos (sadly this was not the only one) really makes me think twice before buying any complicated tudor.
They seem to do better with simple time only watches.
It's sad to see for sure, but my original Pelagos was rock solid so hopefully this is just a blip. Thanks for the comment.
@@PepRex no I meant generally I have seen fewer QC complaints on the BB58 range
First of all the presentation of your video, the quality is well above most of the watch crowd videos, the artwork you use, the pace of the video and sound is the best I’ve experienced. I have watched many reviews of the Pelagos 39 and the more I watched, the more I knew I needed one. So recently I was at the Rolex dealer to drop off something for service and glancing at the Tudor display, I spotted the Pelagos, I tried it on and bought it on the spot, what I didn’t realize at the time was that it wasn’t the 39 model, I couldn’t figure out why the name Pelagos wasn’t in red color, eventually the mystery was solved that I had the larger brother of the 39. It has no lume discrepancy, lights up like a sign after briefly being in sunlight and the clasp is the ultimate clasp without having to stab oneself.
I have a beautiful sub that hasn’t seen the light of day since I purchased the Pelagos, definitely the best mistake I ever made. Thank you for your review, I am now subscribed.
Thanks so much for these kind words, it’s hugely appreciated. The large one is just so much better in all ways except the size perhaps, but I’m sure Tudor will fix all this for the next version 👍 Thanks for subscribing, glad to have you here!
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews You could run another channel on how to make a beautiful production, great stuff.
@@180mph9 I might hire you to pep me up on Monday mornings 😆
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews 🤣 You are too modest.
Should have got you a Seamaster!
😄 I loved the original Pelagos though
@@EsbjornWristwatchReviews I love my Seamster White Dial black bezel. Movement I believe is superior to Tudor. I also have a black bay bronze.
I love this watch. This video (nicely shot by the way) is finding issues where they don't exist.
I’m glad you do, Tudor is one of my favourite brands. I do think however that the issues I raise should not exist at the asking price
Why are you showing the Pelagos in the leaves? Is that where we find the timepiece in the wild lol
If you’re lucky 😉
I used to own a Pelagos LHD and sold it last year when I got the call from my AD for the Submariner 124060 and Pelagos FXD in the same month last November!
Love both the Sub 41 no date and FXD however I was still missing the LHD so was intrigued when Tudor released the Pelagos 39. Having watched some reviews and had experience trying it on, I’m not sure if I want to add it to my collection.
During my AD visit, l also tried the BB58 Bronze and Sterling Silver which I actually prefer because it had a bit of weight as l thought the P39 was too light.
I love the idea and look of that silver one, hopefully someone will lend me that even after this review 😬
Thats a deal breaker on that i have 58 925 and fxdmn21 loomis unbelievable knock your eyes out
Yeah, Tudor always nails this which is why this was such a surprise
Hate titanium
Fair enough, it's a pretty cool grey shade but it's not for everyone