2020 REI Base Camp 6 Tent - A Setup Guide and Initial Tour of the Tent

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  • @thewey
    @thewey ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! It will help my former-wife and son learn how to setup this marvelous tent and have a great camping trip.

  • @floydvaughn836
    @floydvaughn836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nut'n Fancy reviewed this tent 7 years ago. Back to you directly. Thanx.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've seen his channel before. YEARS ago. We're still really enjoying this tent. About to take it out again this weekend!

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review. This should make a good 3+ season tent. I love the fact that you can completely close off the doors, particularly here in the deep south. I wish one of these manufacturers would incorporate side window ventilation with a stake out or pole out awning over the window so you can leave them open during undriven rain. I love that you can open and close the vents from the inside.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot for watching. The side vents are a great feature of this tent. They really help at night when it's warm out.

  • @LetsTalkLions
    @LetsTalkLions ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate you taking the time to show how to set this up. Thanks a ton

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching. We still enjoy our Basecamp 6. It's a great tent.

  • @cardsfan5100
    @cardsfan5100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rented one about 10 years ago. We were in a 2-day windy/rainy downpour. It held up great! It was really nice being able to remove wet gear before entering tent. Highly recommend.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for commenting. We really like the tent. It's not perfect but it works really well for what we need when we car camp. We are really happy with our purchase.

  • @hike2024
    @hike2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the REI Base Camp 4. I use it for colder weather here in Virginia. It is always windy here during the cooler seasons and the Base Camp is solid in the storms and wind. Great video!!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching. We love our Basecamp. We have mostly used it in cooler weather and have had no problems. We will be using it for a couple weeks coming up in June and I'm hoping for good air flow to help it feel cool enough in the shade.

  • @sidneyaustin2646
    @sidneyaustin2646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent detailed review of this tent, which helped me decide to buy one. Watching your review again helped me realize that the polls are supposed to have a slight bend in them, which saved me from taking it back! Thanks again!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry for the delayed response, but I really appreciate the feedback and for you watching. I hope the tent works out well for you. We are still enjoying ours!

  • @Kingnome
    @Kingnome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the review!! Looking at getting this tent. Alaska camping and dip netting near the water gets windy and rains. Looks like this tent will do the job!!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah this style tent is great in less than perfect weather. Plus plenty of room inside for when you're stuck inside. Hope it works out well for you!

  • @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI
    @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great overview and setup! We’ve had our original kingdom 6 for ten years now and I think this would be a nice replacement. More structurally sound and better rain fly that covers more and creates the vestibules.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We loved our original Kingdom 6. I hate that it finally wore out.

  • @jillian4292
    @jillian4292 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was an amazing set up! I used it for the base camp 4 person. Thank you so much 🥰.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot. Glad it helped. Hope you enjoy your tent!

  • @gerald4nomads
    @gerald4nomads 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I own this tent and love it ,I’m what’s called a weekend warrior and travel in my van throughout the country. I fined this tent 🏕a lot better then sleeping in a van which is often times hot as hell and uncomfortable.

  • @Baasicstuff
    @Baasicstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I picked up the Base Camp 6 .... love it. the bag it comes in is the only complaint, at least its not to tight, but the bag encourages you to drop the tent right on the end on the poles, this is just asking for trouble. I like how the tent engineered, they really though of everything.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're totally right about the bag. It definitely leaves something to be desired. It really can't cost that much more to sew a bag with a zipper on it.

    • @Baasicstuff
      @Baasicstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 I know and their other tent comes with the nicer bag. I saw the reviews and I saw the other tent and its bag, but I wanted the wind resistance as I beach and desert camp. though folks that complained were just being babies...well, when you pay 5 bills for tent, .....come on right lol ? So Im a complainer lol but on a side note the tent I cant imagine a better engineered one.

  • @VidOutar
    @VidOutar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We just setup our Base Camp 6 with the help of your video. Thank you!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! We're still loving ours. I hope you enjoy it.

  • @Patriot-American
    @Patriot-American 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoy your channel ... hiking and reviews! I've used a variety of REI equipment over the last 15 - 20 years. Not exclusively an REI user as I prefer many of the more premium brands but to be honest, I've always had pretty good luck with their gear. I don't believe that tent will be accompanying you on a hike in the upper Guadalupe 😉. Thanks again for posting quality videos on your channel 👍😉👌

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, I doubt I'll be carrying this much farther than the short distance from the car to the tentpad. REI makes pretty decent gear for what it is. It has worked for us in the past.

  • @fartman10284
    @fartman10284 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you get 4 more stakes, you can pull the fly out by the 2 triangles, by instead of attaching the fly with the buckles, you can pull the fly and stake it with the loops for the buckles, to increase the ventilation for the lower triangular vents
    I do this to my older style Kingdom 6 for extra ventilation.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great idea. Thanks. That'll help during summer.

  • @tommieboi707
    @tommieboi707 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video buddy! I almost choked on my spit when they threw the tent at you haha! Love the content.

  • @jaminthompson5814
    @jaminthompson5814 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ha! Thanks again, commented earlier this evening on your Kingdom 6 and being confused on my choice of ⛺
    I can proudly say that after subscribing to your channel and finding this video, this will be my next tent. Thanks again for a great video and all the information!

  • @GregFeeneyPoker
    @GregFeeneyPoker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We got this tent recently and did 4 nights in Big Bend NP. The tent held up really well in the desert backcountry near Black Gap in really windy conditions. The next morning I talked to someone at another campsite in the Chisos who had the Kingdom 6 and they said the winds broke one of their poles. I think you made a good choice.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I definitely know that you want to turn the Kingdom into the wind. Made a huge difference. We took the Base Camp out this weekend and loved it. Even in rain.
      I watched peoples tents blow over and snap poles at Guadalupe Mountains this past month and that pretty much sold me on a sturdier design.

  • @adventureoutdoors2022
    @adventureoutdoors2022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picking mine and the footprint up today. Wife and a few Grand children. Should be enough room

  • @sweetbarry
    @sweetbarry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just bought the Base Camp 4. I think I may return it for the 6. Thanks!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 6 is a good amount of space for 4 of us. And makes it possible to squeeze in an extra kid or two. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Thanks a lot for watching.

  • @tubekpful
    @tubekpful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the review, I picked basecamp over kingdom. I have pitched it over 10 times in the past year and no complaints. What kind of sleep system do you use with kids, please do a video when you get a chance, thanks.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So my wife and I use an REI bed that is about queen sized. My two sons use our backpacking air mats. All that together fits really well in the Basecamp, along with our gear (clothes, shoes, etc).

    • @tubekpful
      @tubekpful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 thank you, my kids move a lot, so I went with 3 Exped LW beds for wife and kids, sleepingo for me, hope this will fit with all our stuff in the tent.

  • @rogeralien
    @rogeralien ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this detailed review !

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate you watching! Hope it helped.

  • @Dfgzx12xyw
    @Dfgzx12xyw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Thank you!

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Base Camp 4, and I think it's a great value and a super tent. From time to time, I think about getting the 6, because of its height. But, I like the smaller footprint of the 4 that allows me to fit the tent onto smaller pads.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hadn't thought about the height on the Basecamp 4. Being able to stand up in the 6 person version is definitely a HUGE plus for me.

  • @TheNotLostNomad
    @TheNotLostNomad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice tent and great video. I'm in the market for a new tent...trying to figure out which one I'm getting after Christmas!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man. We used this for a couple nights already and really like it. Great family tent for 4.
      I'm going to buy you some tent stakes for Christmas.

    • @TheNotLostNomad
      @TheNotLostNomad 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 😂 man I ate my words that night! That wind handed me a face full of tent all night long.

  • @afarley337
    @afarley337 ปีที่แล้ว

    How's it holding up 2 years later?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great! We have no complaints. Has been through several storms and is still holding strong. Would be nice for a bit more air flow but it isn't a deal breaker. This thing is rock solid in windy conditions.

  • @chaznsc
    @chaznsc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love that grunt! How are the zippers on this tent?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel they are substantial enough. I don't worry about them failing on me.

  • @staceywest2038
    @staceywest2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried this tent at Pine Springs in the wind? How did it hold up? And do you think it will fit the tent sites at Pine Springs and Dog Canyon? Thanks.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I havent taken this tent to Guadalupe Mountains yet. It will fit in most campsites at the park. I did ultimately decide to go with this style of tent because of its shape and strength against weather and wind. Dome style tents handle wind much better than tents of other shapes. I wouldn't hesitate to take it to GUMO.

    • @staceywest2038
      @staceywest2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CameronHall88, I'm thinking the end of this month will be my first trip back there in many years. Two years ago I had a liver transplant; this will be my first camping trip since then. I'll let you know how the tent holds up. Thank you.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good luck on your trip. Not a bad place to spend a few nights under the mountains and stars.

  • @lanceruss5572
    @lanceruss5572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you checked out the REI grand hut? Comparing that to the basecamp

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have never personally used the Grand Hut but I did look at it online. There were a couple things I didn't like about design. I didn't care for the single plastic hub design (where all the poles come together). And I read a lot of reviews about how poorly it performed in weather. And I watched it in the famous winds of the Guadalupe Mountains, flex all over the place. That helped me make up my mind that while I still wanted a 6 person tent, I wanted something that would preform well in wind and rain. The Basecamp fit that for us.

  • @zx10r12
    @zx10r12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great info. We have the kingdom 6 but we did look at the Basecamp 6. Why did you pick the Basecamp over the kingdom?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure if you've seen this video review of the Kingdom 6 we did a few months ago - th-cam.com/video/gxXBsIsmBEA/w-d-xo.html. But when comparing it to our older version Kingdom 6, it just wasn't as good. And it ended up leaking on us during a small rain storm on one of our first trips with it. So we wanted to go for something different and little more storm worthy. The dome style tent handles wind a lot better. It's still big enough for our family of 4 but my boys are getting to where they like sleeping in their own tent most of the time, so the square shape of the Basecamp 6 still works out for how we sleep in the tent most of the time. I miss the garage from the original Kingdom 6. I hated it on the new version. The Basecamp 6 gives us an awning for easy access into the tent without getting the inside of the tent wet if its raining.

    • @zx10r12
      @zx10r12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool I will see how the Kingdom works out first . Thanks so much for the info

  • @scooter1722
    @scooter1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Thank you for this walk through. Super appreciate it. I have read through the comments and see that you are enjoying the tent. I would like to know how it performs in the heat. Have you any experience with the Marmot limestone 6p? we use cots and I am curious if 3 cots can be arranged inside the basecamp?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot for watching.
      I honestly haven't camped in really hot weather in this tent. We used it during winter and spring. It gets pretty warm here during spring and the tent worked well enough for that. But I don't know how well it'd vent in really hot weather. Although the lower vents do help move air. I'm not familiar with the other tent so I couldn't compare the two. If you're wanting something specifically for hot weather, a tent with more mesh may be better than the Basecamp. But if you're wanting something for all or most seasons, the Basecamp is a really good tent.

  • @tdogrockshard
    @tdogrockshard 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a queen size airmatress fit in this tent?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. For sure. That's about the size of the air mattress we use and there is still room left over.

  • @mr.mueller7704
    @mr.mueller7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid review. I’m buying one

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank. We're still really happy with ours. I hope the Basecamp 6 works out for you as well!

  • @stevekerr1386
    @stevekerr1386 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting; great details that are helpful.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped out. Thanks for watching.

  • @karenmendez4780
    @karenmendez4780 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found this video. Heard you mentioned Texas a few times.. Do you think this tent will hold up to Texas thunderstorms?? We had Eureka's for about 10 years and they held up really well. We want to buy new tents for youth group, looking for good quality and tents that make it through these storms!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So I definitely think structurally it will hold up. Dome shaped tents are better for handling winds than some other shapes of tents. That being said, we tried a REI Kingdom 6 prior to this tent and it leaked. The seems weren't sealed well. We have had the Basecamp 6 in a couple of good rains now and it did flawlessly so far.
      Plus the good thing about buying from REI is being able to return the tents for up to a year, no questions asked, if there ends up being something you don't like about them.

  • @tjmozdzen
    @tjmozdzen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review - thank you! Maybe REI can link to your video.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot. Thatd be great.

  • @jeffwrinkle575
    @jeffwrinkle575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review.
    Looking forward to an updated review once it has been used a few times.
    What is your experience if any with sending an REI tent back to REI for tent repairs?
    I have a Eureka Tetragon 8 that has almost 10 years of use. I have sent the tent back to Eureka three times to repair rips and tears (with a family of 6 it has endured some wear and tear from rambunctious kids). However, they no longer sell the Tetragon 8 and I am looking for an 8 person tent to replace it. Wish the Base Camp came in an 8 person version. I was looking at the King Dome 8 as an alternative but you indicated in your review you did not like it.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have never sent anything back to REI for repair. I have returned something within the first year and that was super easy. But our Kingdom tent never had to be repaired thankfully. But there were so manything wearing out on it recently, it wasn't worth getting repaired to me.
      You guys may like the Kingdom tent. I think I would have liked it more if I wasn't comparing it to the older version. And I believe the seams leaking was a flaw in our specific tent. But I could be wrong.
      I hope the Basecamp 6 works out for us. It seems like a really good tent. But if it doesn't, the next brand I'll buy/try will be Eureka. Either the Boondocker or 8 person Copper Canyon.

    • @jeffwrinkle575
      @jeffwrinkle575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88Eureka has fantastic customer service. The three times I sent my tent back for repairs they were awesome. I dislike the cabin style tents like the Copper Canyon. Cabin Style tents in my opinion just don't hold up as well as Dome Style tents in inclement weather.

    • @jeffwrinkle575
      @jeffwrinkle575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CameronHall88 I called REI Customer Service and they do not offer any type of repair service on any REI branded products.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jeffwrinkle575 that sounds crazy for a company that big with so many self branded products.

  • @joshsmith1346
    @joshsmith1346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reviews after use?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I havent posted a video on it yet but we still love the tent. It's working out really well. Even in hard rain. Haven't used it in the middle of a texas summer. Ventilation may be lacking. So I can't comment on that too much. But you can close it up so it's not drafty on chilly nights. Glad we made this purchase.

  • @nawwk79
    @nawwk79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m waiting for a company to produce a 6-person tent with a low bath tub floor and total mesh covering under a separate rain fly.
    With up to 6-person inside, you need as much ventilation as possible.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The more mesh, the better. At least in the South.

  • @sanborns
    @sanborns 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice catch!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hah, thanks. Pretty heavy tent!

  • @bajunior0218
    @bajunior0218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey guys, thanks for the videos! Was wondering what your thoughts are on tents like the poled Vango Farley TC 500?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I honestly had never heard of the tent. But I went and watched some reviews of it. I could tell without ever starting a video that the tent was from the UK. Always prepared for some wind! I couldn't give you any sort of real good answer. But just looking at it, it looks like a cool design. I'd have to feel the fabric itself to understand exactly what it felt like.

    • @bajunior0218
      @bajunior0218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 what about the Big Agnes bunkhouse Marmot limestone? Did you guys look into those and if you did why did you go with REI instead? Going crazy trying to decide lol

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bajunior0218 I didn't go with the Big Agnes because of price and negative reviews. And didn't go with the Limestone because of the price. I honestly didn't look into it as deeply as the other tents. I spent a ton of time stressing over which to buy. The great thing about REI is if the tent doesn't work out for any reason, you are able to take it back. I'm really happy with the Basecamp 6 although it was a little different than what I was originally looking for.

    • @bajunior0218
      @bajunior0218 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 thanks for the reply, hope 2021 is a great year for you guys!

  • @uben89
    @uben89 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review. Keep up the good work. I was really close to getting the Kingdom until you reviewed that. Now that you’ve had it for sometime, what are your thoughts? How was it in colder temperatures? Are you going to keep this one?

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We really like the Basecamp 6. It fits our family of 4 well. And when my wife and I have stayed it it alone, it is really bigger than we need. The front vestibule is like a tiny version of the Kingdom garage but it still works as a good way to enter the tent without getting it wet inside. It has worked well for us in the cold. No condensation or anything. I'm more concerned how it'll be in the hotter months but I won't know for a while. We definitely plan on keeping it. I also appreciate the money savings over the Kingdom plus the garage.

  • @HerrP58
    @HerrP58 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good catch!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hah, thanks! Definitely not a light tent by any means!

  • @joemattingly8847
    @joemattingly8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How has it done for you through the Texas summer? Also, great review!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We don't camp a lot during summer. And when we do, I get a shaded electric site and put a box fan in the tent. So air flow isn't really a good consideration. Overall we have camped in the tent quite a bit since getting it and still really like it. It has held up well in some good size rain, including one day when it rained for 12 straight hours.

    • @joemattingly8847
      @joemattingly8847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 thanks for the reply! Hadn't thought about the box fan approach! I've watched about as many videos about picking a tent as I can handle. Really appreciated yours! I think I'm just going to go with this one as I think the features are there plus it looks pretty cool. Thanks again!

  • @jessiewright1053
    @jessiewright1053 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Purchased this tent, got it home, ran the poles through it and immediately tore the tent upon sliding a pole through the guide. The material tore easy than paper. Seams were not taped either. Material was so thin and I was able to just grab 2 sections and tear it with very little strength. I have a Walmart tent that I paid 50 bucks for that's harder to tear than this thing.

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, I think REI's QC may be lacking. Our tent has preformed well in rain so far. But our Kingdom 6 leaked. I do know they didn't even offer it on their website recently. May have been a quality issue. You'd think if they just ran out of them, they'd at least still offer them for backorder.

  • @lmiller2003
    @lmiller2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you reviewed this tent yet? What do you think of this tent? Thanks!

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we're due for one as we have had this tent in just about every type of weather for where we typically camp (not heavy snow). We still love the tent. It has held up well in heavy wind and rains. It's awesome in cooler times and cold parts of the year. I wish the entire door was mesh. That'd make the tent almost perfect to me. But we use a box fan in the tent when car camping near electricity in summer and that helps a lot with air flow when the vents of the tent aren't allowing enough flow.
      We also had water soak into the fabric for the rods that can hold the top vents open. And if the rod is pointed down, you may get a couple drips in. And in that same storm we had some fine mist get forced through the top vents even with them closed. But that was in a huge (think destroying people's awnings) storm. We stayed 99.5% dry and I was extremely happy with the way the tent preformed.

    • @lmiller2003
      @lmiller2003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CameronHall88 Sounds great! Thanks for replying! Sounds like a great tent. :)

  • @davidhall8874
    @davidhall8874 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tent is no longer available, but the reviews sure are....???

    • @CameronHall88
      @CameronHall88  ปีที่แล้ว

      They might be going away from this and to a new style. But often times, they quit selling a tent and come right back with a newer updated version of the same tent after the original sells out. That'd be my guess.