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First Class Train Travel NIGHTMARE! Everything Went Wrong 😭 (Copenhagen to Stockholm, Sweden)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ก.ย. 2019
- We were so excited to be taking a first class train ride from Copenhagen, Denmark to Stockholm, Sweden! But the day quickly turned into a train travel nightmare 😭
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So sorry this happened to you guys! Traintravel in Sweden can be a nightmare. I've had many trips prolonged by cancelled trains. Usually there is another train or bus you can take and you get compensated if it's delayed by more than 20 minutes (we really need to step up our traingame).
I hope you enjoy Stockholm and if you have the courtage to give trains another try and if you want to see two countries in one trip, I would recommend going Gothenburg-Oslo.
@@vanellsart what's the reason for this nightmare? Is it management or weather?
@@monsterlove2323 Coppertheft and some bad communication mostly, I think. The weather shouldn't really be an issue this south in Sweden, but they blame the delays on it sometimes.
You still looked good guys! 🤗🤗
I travel a lot and my motto is “travel is an adventure” and keep a positive state of mind
Hey at least the day started off well. Great that you both stayed positive throughout the situation. It always sucks when the s like that happen, especially when the screen's give you no explanation along the way. That's our motto when we travel. Postive vibes y'all.
Oh man, sorry to hear you guys had such a bad travel day. Good on you for staying positive though! Hope your time in Stockholm goes (or went) better, it's a beautiful city! And thanks for sharing the realness of travelling, bumps and all!
I love how you remained so positive throughout the whole day!
I hope they refunded your First Class fares!
Perhaps even from the credit card company if not from the rail service?
Yes! Make sure you ask about a refund!
My first thought too.
They got a full refund the next day.
Lisa Ryan yay!!
Thats sooo typical sj, weird, we swedes does a lot of flyshaming but you can never, never rely on the trains! Apply for a refund though, I travelled for "free" several times between stockholm and malmö since the trains were so delayed that I got refunded for my tickets. Don't know if they're still that generous but hope so, this is totally not ok!!!
Almost never had an issue with the trains, mind you I don't travel on them all the time. After living in the UK, everything else seems a luxary.
I’m so
Surprised by your experience on the swedish railways. I take that exact route many many times a year and I have never had an issue. It makes me angry seeing people saying they’ll never take the Swedish trains because of this. They usually do work well apart from some minor delays. Having said that, if you need to be somewhere on time, you should fly.
You two are troopers! I knew you'd weather the storm.
Rough day it's good to see your normal that's what I live about you guys you keep it real, it's not all pretty pictures and smiles and you dont preach to us on how things should be done, thanks for your hard work
We definitely try to keep it real...although this might have been too real. 😂 Sometimes I guess it's good to have things go wrong though so you can appreciate everything that goes right 👍
I'd ask for a refund for that days travelling considering you were expecting to be traveling First Class
At the very least they should give them back the difference in price between a first class car and a normal seat.
MAGA, ask for everything, give nothing.
There are a ton of trains that goes from Copenhagen airport to Malmo. They can be full where people do stand. The trip between is only 20 mins. Those trains also go North up to Stockholm. I've only went on the trip once. I honestly never tried first class train. My longest train ride was 5 hours from Prague and Vienna.
Hello Adventurers, I discovered your vlog last week and have been bingeing ever since from here in Manchester UK. You are both insanely likeable, unpretentious and producing content that exceeds all expectations. I love your channel. Matthew :)
You both are adorable! I love watching your travel blogs. I'm still working my travel plans for next year and I always watch your videos and listen to your recommendations on where to go. Keep up the good work!!
Even with that hard experience you still can vlog so good, I wish I could be as good you guys and vlogging all of it, at least half of it also good 🤣
As someone who has traveled enough times to sweden alone, learning by myself 😂 I advice you that never purchase ‘first class’ train seats, it’s useless and there’s not much difference even if the train goes half empty 😅
As a Dane I can confirm our train system can suck, BUT it still runs fairly well compared to other countries. I’m glad you guys stayed positive and got to your destination safely😊
Compared to the railways in the neighbouring countries, Danish railway is really not that good.
You poor thing! Being motion sickness is the worst! It’s so much harder to stop once it’s started too. Glad you got through it and feel better.
Every time I booked first class, it was a disaster. I don't even try for it anymore. Not worth the stress and disappointment.
From the comments below from Scandinavian adventurers, it comes as a shock to me how poor the rail network system seems to be across the countries, given that all we foreigners think that these places are second-to-none in service and delivery. UK guy.
Hey Nice find Eric! If you're going to play musical chairs do it with Organic wine. 😂 Hopefully because you didn't get First class that they either reimbursed you guys for the ticket or gave you al the beer and wine you can handle for 5 hours. We've learned as full time travelers that you always have to say positive because any other way will just make the situation feel so much worse. Glad you made it to your cool Airbnb and that your host made it the perfect ending to your day. By the way, we had this happen to us twice at the airports. 🍷🍷
Turn It Up World Instead of reading it as “full-time travelers”, I read “full time-travelers” and was so excited 😆 this cold going around is not great 😂
Amber Katie OMG! That’s hilarious. I wish we could travel through time. That would be AWESOME! 😂 Hope you feel better soon!
If you can believe it, we've only ever had one flight cancelled in our lives (it was prior to starting the channel) and other than this train, I don't think we've ever had anything else cancelled. Not sure how we got so lucky, but hopefully this will buy us some time with the travels gods before the next cancellation 🙏😅
Sorry to hear you are having troubles with our Swedish railway. It's awful and I try to avoid it whenever I can. Sadly fly ✈ is the way here and the politicians are not treating our railway as they should with our tax money. Been like this for at least 20 years or so. You should get your money back or 50% so email the railway operator.
Again fly in Sweden when it's big distances like Malmö-Stockholm.
It's always the greedy politicians
Unless you have lots of time haha but yeah most of travellers won't
So they where in Denmark and blame Sweden.....wise
Well they could start by demanind that the train companies provides trains actually suitable to swedish climate instead of the mid-european train designs we have right now.
My Daughter traveled from Copenhagen to Hamburg and her train was also several hours late, which wouldn't be so awful except she had to be at the train station extremely early in the morning. I traveled on a EurailPass back in the 80's and my ticket allowed for 2nd class rail travel, but my train in Italy showed up with only first class cars. We were stuck in a situation where we had to travel that day, so we got on the train and sat in the little room where they stored supplies like toilet paper, etc. I was just ready to fight with someone that my seat was first class if they complained about me being on the train, but nobody even cared. Other students joined us in the storage room and we had a great time. You just never know when you are going to make great memories.
8:12 _"It's in an old buildning, built 1903, _*_but_*_ it's really cool."_
Hmm, that's why it is "cool", built when architecture peaked (1880-1920). Since then, it has gone downhill.
DSB (The Danish Railway) sucks! ...Always massive delays or cancelations - and NO information, when your train is canceled
Ohhh bless you guys! We completely understand what you went through, we get some rough travel days too. By the way, did they compensate your ticket at all since you paid more money for FIRST CLASS? On the positive side, your airbnb looks lovely and glad to hear that you got a very accommodating host! Cheers!
Micha & Justina
Last year we travelled by train between Copenhagen and Stockholm and we were told to get on a random train to Malmo because our train also didn't leave from Copenhagen (even though our booking said it did). We got asked to show our tickets on the train and the conductor said we shouldn't have been on that train but was really nice and found out which platform we had to leave from in Malmo because there was a really tight connection. Luckily for us the trip to Stockholm in our first class seats was really comfortable and non-eventful.
I feel your pain! I caught the exact same route last month and due to a lightning strike, the train was delayed by 7 hours - turned a 5 hour journey into a 12 hour journey 🤬 As others have commented here, make sure you apply for compensation on the SJ website!!
Oh no! Sorry to hear that 😔 Luckily we were only delayed by a couple hours. They did end up giving us a full refund the next day, so that was nice 👍
I did a round trip Stockholm /Copenhagen, and each way there was a delay. There was some sort of maintenance thing. Plus, this was about 3-4 years ago when they added extra security between Denmark and Sweden. My trips still went pretty smooth, once we got past Malmö’s security check.
Wow, what a day! We started following you when you began the RV project and it's interesting to see all your past videos!
Beautiful Stockholm Bnb for sure. A good end to a lousy travel day. Hey, keep rolling with the ups and downs :)
Nice share, James and Kim
Y’all have to get some zofran. It’s prescription but they have 8mg dissolvable tablets and they work like a charm with absolutely no drowsiness. We cruise all the time and we only have to use em sometimes when weather is bad but they are amazing.
Awww it's so horrible having days like that bless you both for coping so well Alison just needs a good night sleep
Wow, this is the first video I've come across of yours and I've just gotta say WOW! your positive energy is radiating! Especially in a tricky, frustrating situation like the one in this video. I'm definitely subscribing :)
Was the cancellation due the travel company shutting down?
Travel realities! Thank you for sharing that you weren't feeling well Allison. XX Motion sickness is no joke. It kicked my butt at Disneyland during my honeymoon too.
Allison from my experience when you have motion sickness is not good to watch outside the window, is better to try to look forward or to a still point, and you should pick the seat that follows the train direction (when give the possibility ). #motionsicknessistheworst
I have ridden that same train route, in first class. It wasn’t that great.
Next I went Stockholm to Oslo, on the high speed train, which was stuck behind a slow stoping train, arriving over an hour late.
Then I caught a train from Oslo, to Gothenburg, Actually, no I didn’t. There was engineering work between Oslo and the Swedish border. They put on a replacement bus service. Which left 15 minutes before the train was scheduled to leave. Whose genius idea was that!!! So I ended up buying a coach ticket all the way to Gothenburg. I never did get a refund for my not-a-train ticket....
Scandinavian train service..... must do better☹️
So I guess you've experience it now, but this is how it works, when the Swedish/Danish train system works, it is awesome, but when it doesn't, it falls apart fairly quickly.
As a Dane or Swede you learn very early in life to complain about the weather and the train service :P
I just wonder... did Eric like dillkött/dillmeat? Mostly people either love it or hate it. I love it. It's traditional food in Sweden and here in Finland where I live. :)
I hope you have better traveling days ahead. This day maybe suck but it will give you memories to remember when you are old and wringly.
I was in Freiburg Germany heading to Brussels. Made it from Freiburg to cologne . Same issue as y’all in cologne train broke down and no one knew what to do . They got us a double decker bus and it took additional three hours . Got to Brussels then took the train from Brussels midi to close by the airport. Took a bus to our Airbnb got in at 10pm ... so there you go
Once motion sickness sets in, hardly anything helps. If you know you're susceptible to motion sickness, you better take your precautions before setting out on your journey. Diphenhydramine is great, even if it makes you tired. I highly recommend it. Anything is better than being nauseated for hours on end!
What a bummer! Travel enough and it’ll happen, and you just have to go with the flow. My husband and I just look at each other and say, “ it’s an adventure!” Also, I LOVE Coop! They have great prepared meals, which is really nice for travelers.
This is such a valuable video,thanks for making it,because you showed how unexpected complications can turn up when travelling. You coped with it so well. I just think it's good to be reminded of the difficult side of travel sometimes,it's like a warning so us far less experienced travellers take care to be prepared. Its rough on you that you had such bad treatment though after paying for First Class. You must be due some compensation.
Would love to see the unedited version where you're both defending your little zone in the train and jamming the doors shut. Screaming "you shall not pass!!! " gandalf style. Lol.
I am glad to learn that train cancellations are not just a problem in the UK, I hope you claimed the compensation that should be available for delays/cancellations.
We did, thank goodness! Getting reimbursed in full definitely made the situation much less frustrating 👌
I got sick on that route too.. And yet I'll be travelling 16 hours on the overnight train from Kiruna to Stockholm this winter.
Good one, guys! Really a great, honest vlog! Keep going!
Don’t use trains in Denmark (probably same Sweden, Norway etc.) they’re always late, or cancelled, with small to no information.
Info in Sweden is fairly good but train rides are to be improved!
I live in Malmö, go to Copenhagen often, travel by train in southern Sweden, rarely have any problems. Most cancelations, annoying as they may be, have a valid reason behind it. Good advice for long distance trains, pay extra for the insurance/free reschedule.
Copenhagen's Øresunds trains go from Helsingør (Hamlet is set there!) to Helsingborg. They don't go straight to Stockholm. Just some basic research before purchasing could've prevented some of your problems.
That's what I really like about you guys, you show it as it is. Many TH-camrs will only show the bright and glamorous side of travels, so it's refreshing to see you showing how it sometimes can turn out way less glamorous ;)
And as others have said, you really ought to get a refund for that, it's just plain robbery this way.
Had a “similar” experience a few days ago when we got kicked out of our train to Rome due to a power outage, and we had to squeeze into another small, already full one an hour later, standing up between two wagons in the heat and all that... anyway as you say, you can be mad but you have to accept it and go with it.
Yeah Swedish railways are very crowded so a tiny hick up somewhere effects the whole system. Ther are supposed to be buses available when it happens though but.....
Y'all handled it so much better than I would have; especially when you had a first class ticket.
Goodness me you guys!!! I’m glad you’ve finally made it! Honestly I am!! But I would have never had the patience for that! :( I feel so bad for Alison! She got so sick! Bless her! I hope you guys had fun or are having fun in Sweden! 🇸🇪
Ohhh nooo I felt your frustration here. For motion sickness, have you tried the bracelet? That way, you can keep it in your pack and pull it out anytime.
Hahah!
I know i am late to this channel, but i still want to say "Welcome to Sweden, our commute by train system sucks! hope you have a nice day :)" Haha!
Seriusly, ever since i got my driver license i have only ride trains maybe 2-3 times and that is 9 years ago i got it...I hate using trains, buses, taxi, uber and so on, i always drive to wherever i want to go...at least then i know i am getting there in time :P
Hi, you know what? You should make formal complain to the railway company for overbooking. There is a EU law against overbooking and it should apply here (especially as you paid for first class). You should get your money refunded and compensation too. Check the railway company’s website for more information. You could even make a vlog about it...
Trains don’t work in Sweden and it’s hard even for us Swedes to understand what’s happing sometimes, shouldn’t be complicated but it is. Sorry to hear about this
Well, that train situation is quite like mine, commuting to work every day. But luckily it doesn't take hours …😁
I just subscribed to your channel because of what Allison said in the end. Not so great things can happen and you can have your rant, but then you move on and just keep going forward.
I have learned never to drink when I will be moving in any type of vehicle. Glad you arrived and are doing better.
So many Swedes in the comments complaining about train travel, its quite shocking. I'm a new Swedish citizen, also British. Trains in Sweden are good, and would not avoid them. Can be great value too if you book ahead. Improvements to be made, yes, but I find public transport in Sweden to be some of the best in the world. Remember Sweden is a very big landmass, so the coverage of public transport across the country is amazing conaidering that. I concur though that the Stockholm-Malmö line is sick enducing. Stockholm just hosted the world transport summit!
The idea of flying being essential between Stockholm and Malmö is ludicrous
If you didn't do it already, make a complaint to the railway company for reimbursement of your first class fares! Do love that you guys share the not-so-good days with us. Keep smiling!
I just came back from Stockholm ! Have a nice time there guys !
Wow. Had this issue from Copenhagen to Stockholm last summer (August 2018)
had to keep moving forward on different sections of the line to get there. Like going from Central Copenhagen to Copenhagen Airport and then over to Malmo. Hopefully they gave you some money back.
Did you get any refund for your first class tickets?! That is ridiculous!
2020 Rewatching episodes: I think this was the first episode I saw and which made me subscribe to the channel.
I love your videos keep them coming 😌
You Kara and Nate should meet somewhere!
i love all your contents!!
Yiiikes! Well done for getting through all that! Enjoyed the videos and yes, I hope you were able to get a refund!
YAAAY COOP! That and Migros, 2 of our favorite supermarkets in Switzerland!
Welcome to Sweden. In the south there is always problems with cancelled trains. Sorry for your trouble.
However I like your vloggs very much :-)
This keep happening on SJ-trains, spent a fair amount of hours between wagons. Good thing its shown off allthough shame it happened to you guys. Hope the rest of sweden treated you better :)
Looking out the window helps with travel sickness as what you see matches what you feel.
Sorry to hear about your travel nightmare
I live in Sweden This is standard. The Railway sucks big time. Every day.
And we thought the trains were bad in the UK.
@@peteryoungpeteryoung965 Agree. So this is encouraging in a strange sort of way. My Danish and Swedish friends of course would have it differently:)
Happy you guys made it :/
I think we all wish we could help Alison when she felt sick on the train
There might be some kind of EU compensation that you could get like they do with airlines.
There are EU rules for trains, but the Swedish rules are actually a bit more generous that those. They can apply for compensation here: www.sj.se/en/compensation-rights.html
As a dane.
you do aware of that, there is a swedish train, going directly from Stockholm to Copenhagen?
I hate that feeling of throwing up. First trip to London, plane landing made me nauseous. Felt that way in the 1 hour train ride to East London. Got into a taxi and met my buddy's fiance and uh... let's just say "Ralph".
Same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago.
Don’t know what’s happening at Copenhagen station lately: so many trains keep getting cancelled
Same as in Sweden probably, the funding for maintenance has been a joke for decades and then privatizing the work to scammers. Then buying garbage trains from Italy, winter tested in Marseilles.
What a trip we are a family of four and also travel started Panamá
Travelng struggles are far too really really really REAL!!!!
Välkomna till Sverige - welcome to Sweden ☺
It always annoys me here in the UK train tickets are so expensive, but 99% of the time you end up with standing room only (and don't get me started with cancelled trains). Staying positive is the best way to cope with a crappy travel day, s**t happens and you just have to work it out the best way you can :-)
This is normal in Sweden and Denmark now. It's abnormal when something does work, especially during winter regarding trains. Post service is a joke (thanks Denmark!), police and justice system is collapsing, underdimensioned healthcare and pretty much everything.
Dude, I’ve been in that Copenhagen train station, Malmö too!
Love from karachi 😍😍
You guyz are awesome😍😍😍
cph to oslo or to stockholm ? which one you prefer ?
Love you guys positive outlook on. Your experience :) I hope that type of trip was an one off. 😀 Please come back to copemhagen any time :) ❤️
Hi, guys! Greetings from Bucharest Romania !
How about this.. During summer, i was going down to örebro to pickup my daughter, an even tho ive PAYED for seats, we had to stand the whole way. there was literally people EVERYWHERE on the train
This is the EXACT same thing that happened to me in Germany! It’s the worst
and I always thought Denmark was super modern and clean.
Never thought this happens in Scandinavia..Shossh!!..In India this can be experienced Quite a Few Times..Not demeaning any Country in any sense. Hoped it all Worked Fine at Last..
this remember me a trip I did in train between Amsterdam and Brussel, the train was just so jam I got myselt stock in between 2 train (still indoor) for 2h straight. At that moment, I was pretty angry but now, I just laught about it
The Swedish train system is notorious in Sweden for being completely unreliable. In the summer time (the time of most tourists) the rails get too hot for the trains to safely travel on and in the winter there is too much snow or ice. As you experienced, trains get cancelled without notice or explanation. As for first class. Forget it. Sweden is the land of the “classless society” - equality for all (to equally suffer, if you ask me). A first class ticket means exactly nothing. Best suggestion: make a seat reservation! I have lived in Sweden for nearly 25 years and I make it a point to never take a train. Better suggestion: rent a car.
I love all of your journey!