Are you still planning on doing the follow up tutorial video on the specifics of this mod? I just got my Star Wars pinball and want to do this upgrade. Thanks.
So I did this, couldn’t wait any longer for the follow up video. Only issue I had was with the stereo male to RCA plug. I ordered it brand new but I kept getting that popping noise Ralph was talking about in the video. After pouring over all my connections I just tried using an old RCA to RCA connection from the Line Out Converter to the amp and it worked perfectly. Hope that helps any other impatient people such as myself.
Yes, I wired the transducer to the little green plug. I really just went kind of blindly into the whole thing not having done anything like this before. It was intuitive enough I suppose.
That’s what I did too. It makes a difference for sure, but it didn’t seem to be as much of a boost as I was expecting (unless I turn the bass volume up past the point where the blue light starts blinking). I asked Ralph about this on his Coffee Talk and it doesn’t sound like he’s planning to update this video, but he did say he’d post something about it on his Retro Ralph Facebook page.
I also can’t figure out what he’s using the cable coming out of the front Aux jack for. It could be cool to put a headphone jack near the front of the machine, but I figure he would have mentioned that as part of the mod if that was his plan.
@@marshallkkurtz that’s the stereo to RCA plug that didn’t work for me. I’ve found myself doing something to this cabinet every week since I got it. First was this transducer mod. Then I switched the plexi for glass. Moved the solenoids to the top plate this past weekend and am putting in some Happ buttons this week once they arrive in the mail. I absolutely love this machine. Yes, the 720 screen is not ideal but when you’re actually playing it doesn’t matter. People keep comparing them to $3K home made monsters and those are two very different machines. For $550 I have no complaints with what I got.
I asked Ralph about this on his Coffee Talk yesterday and he’s not planning to update it. I had a few questions for him about wiring and he said he’d post more info on his Retro Ralph Facebook page.
After watching the videos on the A1U pinball, I decided to clear an area in my music area for one. I'm definitely going to do this upgrade too. Can't wait til these things ship!
Very nice work! These bass shakers seem like they’re perfect for arcade/pinball applications. AtGames seems to have made the right choice by going with these and having solenoids as first party drop-in additions for those who want them.
looks pretty cool & easy to do imagine if the table had kiss or ac/dc pinball.any ideas about putting a small rumble motor on the out run cab i dont have one but knows someone who ordered it & is waiting for theirs to arrive & they definitely want to mod it with one?
I’m using the 7.1 Surround sound feedback on my VPX build and AC/DC with these is freaking amazing... it’s ridiculous. If you have a chance to do SSF in VPX it’s really kind of mind blowing. Just remember that these alone without something feeding them the proper sounds, will not be nearly as effective. Still cool but not as effective.
I don't think so bud, I no longer have the machine. I could try to do a walkthrough on my live channel without the machine if that's helpful. It looks more complicated than it is.
@@RetroRalph thanks for the reply! I understand and no worries. It looked a little difficult. I still love all of your mods and your contribution to the community. Can't wait to make the upgrades to my AFM cab. Just got my 32" monitor 😉. I'll see you on the next one! 🤙🏽
I have these same exciters and transducers in my 27” cabinet that I built in the spring. They are so awesome so I would definitely recommend it for the Arcade 1 Up cabinets if people are comfortable doing the mod. For me, it was probably easier since I was working with a PC and simply hooked everything through Amps and the 7.1 outputs on my motherboard. The end result is just so immersive.
Well, I'm sold. After feeling the difference after doing the previous Outrun mod I am powerless to resist doing this. It changed the whole experience so much for the better. Ralph, I look forward to more in-depth instruction to hone my audio installation skills lol. Awesome!
@@RetroRalph Hopefully getting delivery of Marvel sometime in the next few weeks. Can't wait for info on your new and improved bass shaker mod. After adding LED strips, a bass shaker will be my next planned mod.
@@RetroRalph did you figure out how to add the base shaker without splicinh in stock speaker wiring. also is there anyway i can use the stock speakers?
@Retro Ralph, we’re you able to simplify this? I know you were talking about it however haven’t seen anything on it yet. I know you have been busy with all your shows. Maybe it’s coming 😊
Please forgive newbe question. Is the bass shaker purpose to enhance the solenoid wacks (like hitting the flippers) or for the bottom end of the sound track/effects sounds... or both? Thanks :)
Great video. But I have a question about the 3.5mm plug. When you take the plug from the back of DMD it has 3 sections I guess that's what I want to call it, 3 black rings. Most of the ones you can get only have two. Would that make a big difference between the sound and having to use the line converter? The "3 ringed " plug has 3 pairs of wires and of course 2 ringed has 2.
Ok, disregard what I asked. After a quick search, 3 ringed plug has the microphone option. So why did 1up use a plug for a game that doesn't have / use a microphone? Are we missing something
I honestly think I’m going to pull down this video, the unit I received was different that the production unit PCB. So I never did a follow up because I couldn’t reproduce this again with enough certainty that it would work for everyone. I did think of an alternative that would make this way easier though. I device like this can extract audio via HDMI. This would be a much cleaner solution and easier to reproduce from a modding perspective: J-Tech Digital Premium Quality 1080P HDMI to HDMI + Audio (SPDIF + RCA Stereo) Audio Extractor Converter (JTDAT5CH) a.co/d/dDpZ88t
After watching this video, and someone else's video, that's where I ended up by going with a hdmi audio Extractor unit. Thanks Retro Ralph for putting out great content!
THIS! THIS! I am so proud of Ralph right now!!! A REAL explanation of Transducers vs solenoids!!! An awesome mod! Everything about this video gives me feels!
Thanks for the video and can't wait for the more detailed process video. I have the Star Wars one on pre-order. Any chance you are getting the Legends pinball? You do great reviews so I would like to see a comparison and if it would be worth getting both.
I tried to upgrade the SW pinball speakers with a simple logitech system with cpu speakers and a woofer. But for some reason running the 3.5mm audio jack out directly to a set of speakers the 1up system gives out weird popping and staticky sounds. It’s like they optimized the audio to only work with the 1up default speakers. All my other Arcade1up standup cabinets allow you to use the 3.5mm audio out jack with no problems.
Awesome Ralph! Would you do something like this with Attack from Mars? Or is it really the sound track like StarWars that really drives the experience???
Arcade 1Up made the right choice getting you a unit so soon. They knew you would be modding this thing 5 minutes after you got your hands on it and that would get the community even more psyched about the possibilities. Can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Where are you at on the update/walkthrough? I got all the parts (aside from the actual pinball machine) and I’m super excited to drop this in on day one.
After watching few of these 1up Pinball videos, i will have to cancel pre-orders on them and go with the Atgames Pinball. There are videos of it on youtube now and if you compare one to the next you will understand for around $150 more have a much bigger better working unit without a number of upgrades to make it to your liking. IMO.. If you are strapped for space this may work better for u.
I like both brands. The big question is how available will the atgames pinballs be? If they are tough to find like their arcade units then that's a problem.
@@Madlou The Legends Ultimate cabs are listed all over the place now, not sure the future holds for any of these companies other then them growing as demand raises. I am a supporter and own 9 arcade1ups. Has nothing to do with finding them if you pre-ordered and i was told by second quarter Atgames Pinball will be in stores around the country. Lets hold our breaths and just hope. hehe
It looks like the capacitor on the 1up PCB feeds the solenoid 11.xx volts... not sure that’s enough for a 36v rated solenoid but I’m going to try it because ... why not 😏. Thanks for watching!
Wow, taking a pretty ok pinball to ultra level without busting the bank. Thanks for your hard work and going for it.. we know you have experience but then doing it, you can tell this is definitely a must for all 1up pinball at minimum.
@@RetroRalph have you posted the step by step video? I cant find it. is it something that you are working on or still plan on doing?? Moved on to other things? Love the Channel! thanks!
I will like to see the speaker (line level) process in detail. I'm guessing if you just swap out the speakers the line level and additional amp wouldn't be necessary. Is there a way to hook up a surround sound powered subwoofer (line level &/or speaker wire pass-through)?
I knew you couldn’t wait Ralph!! Brilliant job👍🏻👍🏻 I just mounted 3 of those bass shakers to my home theater couch too.. so easy... keep up the inspiring work.
Ralph, You Don't need 7.1 to use exciters and bass shakers, what you need to do is actually properly make a 3 way Crossover that filters and sends proper signals to each of the relative and correlating frequency ranges of each of the Exciters/BassShakers. Think of it like a Bookshelf speaker with 3 drivers a tweeter, mid, and woofer. Same thing, by adding several amps to your build your kind of needlessly spending extra money you don't need to Crossover PCBs are pretty cheap compared to a 7.1 amp. I would say If you want to do it properly, head over to "parts express"(clearly Ralph did Dayton Audio is their house brand) and you can ask staff questions on the website to help you out in designing your project.
Good stuff Ralph. Nice to see someone actually explain how SSF and transducers/exciters work with virtual pinball. Solenoids and exciters/transducers compliment each other very well. As some others have stated they are not a replacement for solenoids and are not better :) As you saw here they do wonders together and easy to get going. I'd be going A1up on the pinball side if I didn't already build my own. Enjoy all the videos as always, hope you had a good holiday.
what is the 4th speaker wire hooked up to? there is the right and left speakers, and the base shaker on the bottom, but in the video you have 4 speaker wires connected the the amp???
Hi I know this is late but I'm just trying to make sure that in this mod you only used the bass shaker and the two after market speakers right no exciters? I didn't see a link for the smaller exciters for the flippers. Thanks for helping us by the way!
Hey Ralph - It would be awesome if you could post up the measurements for the machine. I am going to build my own and would like to get it close enough to use third-party printed side art for the body and backglass sides. Sure would appreciate it...
Is the monitor connection standard hdmi? If so, I have a thought about an additional mod, adding an mCable to upscale it to 1080p and add some anti aliasing to the graphics.
Hey Ralph I build a Daytona USA cab and use a PS3 3.5MM audio cable to an RCA to my speaker. If I was to throw one of these bad boys in do they all require an amplifier or can I just go Rca and and Rca out
Nice setup, do you have a drawing/schematic for the hookups, was trying to see from the video but can't see everything, is there a reason the HDMI cable is unplugged, did you have to tap into the HDMI audio lines or something?
What’s the max play field screen size you could mod it with? 27” or 32” also same question for a screen size that would possibly fit above the speakers/dmd? This would ease my mind purchasing knowing I can mod it with whatever screen sizes you think will work.. love your channel!
After you do this mod you ask your wife, "listen to what I did to the new pinball machine, doesn't it sound better?". Wife responds, "umm... can you please turn that down?" lol
Happy New Year! I watch many of your videos....this is great stuff! If anything, the enhanced sound and bass with this mod will definitely cover up the fan noise that has been reported.
Thats neat and all... BUT... what has this to do with GAMEPLAY force feedback? Its reacting to loud voices and music so NOT what it suppose to do. This should emulate the feel of mechanical sounds only. Yes it adds something to the experience but as you said without 7.1 sound channel separation (2.1 here) its not precise and rumbles at any occasion.
The sub is passing only low frequency to the device. What it does is it gives it a powerful low end that complements the solenoids. 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
It’s a long story but yes you can. For whatever reason multiple Y-splitters (TRRS to TRS) won’t work. However, they work on my outrun PCB. So I decided to not do the follow up video due to the inconsistencies. So it’s more of a “do at your own risk” mod since I can’t figure out why it’s happening. So while it can be done, I don’t feel comfortable with the process being a repeatable one so I’m not planning to do the follow up.
I haven't seen anyone mention this in the comments, but if you're worried about cutting the wires, just buy an HDMI sound extractor, then you can run an amp off that 😉
Has anybody done this mod on an Attack from Mars table? I just finished and it works great in the menus. However, once I get into the tables and play, the audio is noticeably lower quality than the menus and I get no bass coming from the Dayton Transducer puck. Very disappointing...hoping that the games are not just in mono or stereo 2.0 mode vs the 2.1 stereo mode the menus have.
Wow! Now I see why your name was mentioned in other reviews that I've read... Great informative video.. I'm looking for a way to make my Marvel Pinball more like the more expensive Vpin machines and the bass shaker is right up the alley of what I'm looking for. I doubt I can do anything about the 720p but with the right mods like more real feel vibrations and rumble I can live with the 720p look. I'll be selling my 3 arcade games and replace them with a higher level Vpin please give me a few suggestions on moding the Marvel I have and what should be the next Vpin I should get that will give me all I want without ripping my wallet to shreds.. Thanks for the great video that answered some questions for me and looking forward to your suggestions.
Man I’d be doing good to just put the thing together, let alone mod it. Much respect to you though :) The main thing I would want that probably isn’t even possible would be glasses free 3D on the screen but I know that would be expensive for Arcade 1up and maybe not even possible. But depth on the table would be great!
Arcade 1up should hire you as a consultant. You really are an arcade expert. I think there is a market for easy upgrade kits.
I’m for hire 🤣. Thanks bud and I appreciate you watching!
It's a fun budget way to MOD your pinball machine 😄
Are you still planning on doing the follow up tutorial video on the specifics of this mod? I just got my Star Wars pinball and want to do this upgrade. Thanks.
That vinyl display shelf is clutch
I'm a fan of both you and Ralph's videos man. If you wanna see a cool vinyl setup, check my channel out :)
Thanks for watching bud, it really is a hot looking machine. They nailed the “look” without a doubt. Hope you had a great Christmas!
@@InfectiousGroovePodcast my guy you're on another level. I need to find a spot in my house for a player and get going
@@RetroRalph I did man, finally nabbed a Series X after endless false starts so Christmas was great lol. And same to you and your family
@@UnqualifiedCritics thanks man. What you see in my videos is the result of about 10 years of work lol.
When are you going to do the detailed video?
I just got my SW pinball 👍🏻
I wanted to do this. Ever since I watched 😉
Thanks!
So I did this, couldn’t wait any longer for the follow up video. Only issue I had was with the stereo male to RCA plug. I ordered it brand new but I kept getting that popping noise Ralph was talking about in the video. After pouring over all my connections I just tried using an old RCA to RCA connection from the Line Out Converter to the amp and it worked perfectly. Hope that helps any other impatient people such as myself.
I did this too (RCA from line level converter to RCA in on the amp.) What did you wire the transducer into, the green “Super Bass” port?
Yes, I wired the transducer to the little green plug. I really just went kind of blindly into the whole thing not having done anything like this before. It was intuitive enough I suppose.
That’s what I did too. It makes a difference for sure, but it didn’t seem to be as much of a boost as I was expecting (unless I turn the bass volume up past the point where the blue light starts blinking). I asked Ralph about this on his Coffee Talk and it doesn’t sound like he’s planning to update this video, but he did say he’d post something about it on his Retro Ralph Facebook page.
I also can’t figure out what he’s using the cable coming out of the front Aux jack for. It could be cool to put a headphone jack near the front of the machine, but I figure he would have mentioned that as part of the mod if that was his plan.
@@marshallkkurtz that’s the stereo to RCA plug that didn’t work for me.
I’ve found myself doing something to this cabinet every week since I got it. First was this transducer mod. Then I switched the plexi for glass. Moved the solenoids to the top plate this past weekend and am putting in some Happ buttons this week once they arrive in the mail.
I absolutely love this machine. Yes, the 720 screen is not ideal but when you’re actually playing it doesn’t matter. People keep comparing them to $3K home made monsters and those are two very different machines. For $550 I have no complaints with what I got.
Wow, this has me very interested. Thank you Ralph.
Dude! Your enthusiasm in this one is epic! This is why I love your channel. Rock on Ralph!
Transducers make everything awesome! Thanks for watching bud! ✊🏻
@@RetroRalph hell yeah 🤘😁
Any news/updates on your streamlined method of doing this? Just got my SW pin last week and very interested to try this mod
I asked Ralph about this on his Coffee Talk yesterday and he’s not planning to update it. I had a few questions for him about wiring and he said he’d post more info on his Retro Ralph Facebook page.
@@marshallkkurtz did he ever share more info on is FB Page?
After watching the videos on the A1U pinball, I decided to clear an area in my music area for one.
I'm definitely going to do this upgrade too. Can't wait til these things ship!
Very nice work! These bass shakers seem like they’re perfect for arcade/pinball applications. AtGames seems to have made the right choice by going with these and having solenoids as first party drop-in additions for those who want them.
Ain’t that the truth
Where Is the splicing video?
looks pretty cool & easy to do imagine if the table had kiss or ac/dc pinball.any ideas about putting a small rumble motor on the out run cab i dont have one but knows someone who ordered it & is waiting for theirs to arrive & they definitely want to mod it with one?
I’m using the 7.1 Surround sound feedback on my VPX build and AC/DC with these is freaking amazing... it’s ridiculous. If you have a chance to do SSF in VPX it’s really kind of mind blowing. Just remember that these alone without something feeding them the proper sounds, will not be nearly as effective. Still cool but not as effective.
Any chance you will do a complete "How to" video for installing the transducers and shaker? Keep up the great work! I love your content! Cheers!
I don't think so bud, I no longer have the machine. I could try to do a walkthrough on my live channel without the machine if that's helpful. It looks more complicated than it is.
@@RetroRalph thanks for the reply! I understand and no worries. It looked a little difficult. I still love all of your mods and your contribution to the community. Can't wait to make the upgrades to my AFM cab. Just got my 32" monitor 😉. I'll see you on the next one! 🤙🏽
I have these same exciters and transducers in my 27” cabinet that I built in the spring. They are so awesome so I would definitely recommend it for the Arcade 1 Up cabinets if people are comfortable doing the mod. For me, it was probably easier since I was working with a PC and simply hooked everything through Amps and the 7.1 outputs on my motherboard. The end result is just so immersive.
Holy crap that is awesome!
Well, I'm sold. After feeling the difference after doing the previous Outrun mod I am powerless to resist doing this. It changed the whole experience so much for the better. Ralph, I look forward to more in-depth instruction to hone my audio installation skills lol. Awesome!
has there been a follow up more in-depth video? I cant seem to find it...
I’m going to wait a week to buy these upgrades just in case Ralph listed the wrong part again :p. But it looks sweet and easy to do
I’m working on simplifying it a bit. I don’t like that you have to splice the stock speaker wiring, hold off for a bit. 👍🏻.
@@RetroRalph THANK YOU! The moment you can find some sort of Part/Adapter, I'm ordering these parts for my A1UP Marvel Pinball machine!
@@RetroRalph Hopefully getting delivery of Marvel sometime in the next few weeks. Can't wait for info on your new and improved bass shaker mod. After adding LED strips, a bass shaker will be my next planned mod.
@@RetroRalph did you figure out how to add the base shaker without splicinh in stock speaker wiring. also is there anyway i can use the stock speakers?
@Retro Ralph, we’re you able to simplify this? I know you were talking about it however haven’t seen anything on it yet. I know you have been busy with all your shows. Maybe it’s coming 😊
Great job as always Ralph
Please forgive newbe question. Is the bass shaker purpose to enhance the solenoid wacks (like hitting the flippers) or for the bottom end of the sound track/effects sounds... or both? Thanks :)
This may be my favorite mod ever on your channel.
Thanks bud, I appreciate you watching!
Ralph, what is cool about this is...I go to Parts Express all the time for video and audio stuff..."Dayton Audio".
Did we ever get the follow-up video that was mentioned with the more detail, I can't seem to find it.
Great video. But I have a question about the 3.5mm plug. When you take the plug from the back of DMD it has 3 sections I guess that's what I want to call it, 3 black rings. Most of the ones you can get only have two. Would that make a big difference between the sound and having to use the line converter? The "3 ringed " plug has 3 pairs of wires and of course 2 ringed has 2.
Ok, disregard what I asked. After a quick search, 3 ringed plug has the microphone option. So why did 1up use a plug for a game that doesn't have / use a microphone? Are we missing something
I honestly think I’m going to pull down this video, the unit I received was different that the production unit PCB. So I never did a follow up because I couldn’t reproduce this again with enough certainty that it would work for everyone. I did think of an alternative that would make this way easier though. I device like this can extract audio via HDMI. This would be a much cleaner solution and easier to reproduce from a modding perspective: J-Tech Digital Premium Quality 1080P HDMI to HDMI + Audio (SPDIF + RCA Stereo) Audio Extractor Converter (JTDAT5CH) a.co/d/dDpZ88t
After watching this video, and someone else's video, that's where I ended up by going with a hdmi audio Extractor unit. Thanks Retro Ralph for putting out great content!
THIS! THIS! I am so proud of Ralph right now!!! A REAL explanation of Transducers vs solenoids!!! An awesome mod! Everything about this video gives me feels!
Good stuff Ralph. May just have to get my pre-order on to get one of these pins.
Thanks for the video and can't wait for the more detailed process video. I have the Star Wars one on pre-order. Any chance you are getting the Legends pinball? You do great reviews so I would like to see a comparison and if it would be worth getting both.
I tried to upgrade the SW pinball speakers with a simple logitech system with cpu speakers and a woofer. But for some reason running the 3.5mm audio jack out directly to a set of speakers the 1up system gives out weird popping and staticky sounds. It’s like they optimized the audio to only work with the 1up default speakers.
All my other Arcade1up standup cabinets allow you to use the 3.5mm audio out jack with no problems.
Just ordered the unit and all parts you suggested!
Awesome Ralph! Would you do something like this with Attack from Mars? Or is it really the sound track like StarWars that really drives the experience???
Man, wish i could wrap my head around this stuff. Haha! Im not very mechanical. Super cool though!
You can do it! 💪🏻
Arcade 1Up made the right choice getting you a unit so soon. They knew you would be modding this thing 5 minutes after you got your hands on it and that would get the community even more psyched about the possibilities. Can't wait to see what else you come up with.
Can't wait to do this and the step by step video
Where are you at on the update/walkthrough? I got all the parts (aside from the actual pinball machine) and I’m super excited to drop this in on day one.
After watching few of these 1up Pinball videos, i will have to cancel pre-orders on them and go with the Atgames Pinball. There are videos of it on youtube now and if you compare one to the next you will understand for around $150 more have a much bigger better working unit without a number of upgrades to make it to your liking. IMO.. If you are strapped for space this may work better for u.
I like both brands. The big question is how available will the atgames pinballs be? If they are tough to find like their arcade units then that's a problem.
@@Madlou The Legends Ultimate cabs are listed all over the place now, not sure the future holds for any of these companies other then them growing as demand raises. I am a supporter and own 9 arcade1ups. Has nothing to do with finding them if you pre-ordered and i was told by second quarter Atgames Pinball will be in stores around the country. Lets hold our breaths and just hope. hehe
That's pretty cool. Looking forward to when you inevitably change out the solenoids for real ones found in pinball machines!
It looks like the capacitor on the 1up PCB feeds the solenoid 11.xx volts... not sure that’s enough for a 36v rated solenoid but I’m going to try it because ... why not 😏. Thanks for watching!
Wow, taking a pretty ok pinball to ultra level without busting the bank. Thanks for your hard work and going for it.. we know you have experience but then doing it, you can tell this is definitely a must for all 1up pinball at minimum.
Thanks bud, appreciate you watching. I’m going to simplify the process and then post a step by step of how to do this. 👍🏻
@@RetroRalph have you posted the step by step video? I cant find it. is it something that you are working on or still plan on doing?? Moved on to other things? Love the Channel! thanks!
Excellent video and explanation! Sounds awesome! Look forward to the tutorial vids
Fantastic video Ralph. Whatever machines I buy this seems like a must do upgrade. I may start with my current vpin! 👍
I am using two of those transducers in my VPIN. I put one by each flipper button. It isn't perfect, but it definitely adds to the experience.
I will like to see the speaker (line level) process in detail. I'm guessing if you just swap out the speakers the line level and additional amp wouldn't be necessary. Is there a way to hook up a surround sound powered subwoofer (line level &/or speaker wire pass-through)?
I will be doing a full tutorial, I’m just waiting on a part to hopefully simplify the process.
@@RetroRalph awesome thanks Ralph!
@@RetroRalph Did you ever do that tutorial?
@@MiamiLoco I didn't because my evaluation unit had an audio wiring problem. So I couldn't do a proper tutorial,. I'm sorry about that.
@Retro Ralph, what do you mean? My units speakers have a hiss :/
Thanks Bro! Hope you had a great holiday! Time to upgrade the cab!
I knew you couldn’t wait Ralph!! Brilliant job👍🏻👍🏻 I just mounted 3 of those bass shakers to my home theater couch too.. so easy... keep up the inspiring work.
Ralph,
You Don't need 7.1 to use exciters and bass shakers, what you need to do is actually properly make a 3 way Crossover that filters and sends proper signals to each of the relative and correlating frequency ranges of each of the Exciters/BassShakers. Think of it like a Bookshelf speaker with 3 drivers a tweeter, mid, and woofer. Same thing, by adding several amps to your build your kind of needlessly spending extra money you don't need to Crossover PCBs are pretty cheap compared to a 7.1 amp.
I would say If you want to do it properly, head over to "parts express"(clearly Ralph did Dayton Audio is their house brand) and you can ask staff questions on the website to help you out in designing your project.
If you mount those solenoids upside down you'll get more feed from them
Good stuff Ralph. Nice to see someone actually explain how SSF and transducers/exciters work with virtual pinball. Solenoids and exciters/transducers compliment each other very well. As some others have stated they are not a replacement for solenoids and are not better :) As you saw here they do wonders together and easy to get going. I'd be going A1up on the pinball side if I didn't already build my own. Enjoy all the videos as always, hope you had a good holiday.
Thanks for watching bud, have a great holiday as well.
Where is the sub screen video on how to do the wiring?
The pinball machine is cool, but I’m installing this behind the couch 🛋 thanks Ralph!
what is the 4th speaker wire hooked up to? there is the right and left speakers, and the base shaker on the bottom, but in the video you have 4 speaker wires connected the the amp???
Did you ever make a full tutorial?
Think Tank. Such a great album!
Hi I know this is late but I'm just trying to make sure that in this mod you only used the bass shaker and the two after market speakers right no exciters? I didn't see a link for the smaller exciters for the flippers. Thanks for helping us by the way!
Hey Ralph - It would be awesome if you could post up the measurements for the machine. I am going to build my own and would like to get it close enough to use third-party printed side art for the body and backglass sides. Sure would appreciate it...
Hey Ralph, any dimensions on the backglass? Would be interested to see if you can add a monitor for changing the game backglass
Now that's loud... I could not have this is my condo. :O
Hoping he posts the follow-up video soon as I want to do the same.
I’m making a Retro Ralph Star Wars cabinet 🗄 every time the ball goes down the drain, it’s going to say, “WE’LL SEE YOU......ON THE NEXT ONE ☝🏽
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Any updates on pulling this off without splicing the wires?
Is the monitor connection standard hdmi? If so, I have a thought about an additional mod, adding an mCable to upscale it to 1080p and add some anti aliasing to the graphics.
I actually have two of these on my rec room masters table. They are awesome!
Hey Ralph I build a Daytona USA cab and use a PS3 3.5MM audio cable to an RCA to my speaker. If I was to throw one of these bad boys in do they all require an amplifier or can I just go Rca and and Rca out
Nice setup, do you have a drawing/schematic for the hookups, was trying to see from the video but can't see everything, is there a reason the HDMI cable is unplugged, did you have to tap into the HDMI audio lines or something?
What’s the max play field screen size you could mod it with? 27” or 32” also same question for a screen size that would possibly fit above the speakers/dmd? This would ease my mind purchasing knowing I can mod it with whatever screen sizes you think will work.. love your channel!
During your unboxing, I had ask how long it would take for you to mod this. Justin ignored my question, but yet....Here we are.
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🤣🤣🤣🤣
The other question you should ask is how long he's gonna regret what he did and then sell it....😂😂😂
Mini Amp goes under many Chinese brands, but if you do a search for ST-828, in the UK found them on EBay.
Has a tutorial for wiring this ever been posted? I would really really like to do this mod. Thanks for the video!
So do you think this setup would work well on a mame cabinet? Feel the punches through the control stick?
Do you think the bass shaker mod will be worth putting into the Attack From Mars Pinball Machine?
How did you mount the Dayton bass, did you have the ring kit ?
I am really interested in seeing how this compares to Atgames pinball. Which one is the best out of box experience. Great channel.
That atgames is 🔥
After you do this mod you ask your wife, "listen to what I did to the new pinball machine, doesn't it sound better?". Wife responds, "umm... can you please turn that down?" lol
So are you gonna turn an arcade 1 up into a terminator 2 pinball
Happy New Year! I watch many of your videos....this is great stuff! If anything, the enhanced sound and bass with this mod will definitely cover up the fan noise that has been reported.
Bass shaker positioning genius !!!!!!
Why do I feel when the Arcade1Up Daytona USA comes out, you are going to connect a real car engine to it somehow?
Can this mod me implement to toy shock pinball
I don’t see why not. You could convert the line level to RCA’s by splicing the current speaker wires. 👍🏻.
Can someone confirm if these Star Wars tables are the ones on the Star Wars pinball collection on the Switch.
Thats neat and all... BUT... what has this to do with GAMEPLAY force feedback? Its reacting to loud voices and music so NOT what it suppose to do. This should emulate the feel of mechanical sounds only. Yes it adds something to the experience but as you said without 7.1 sound channel separation (2.1 here) its not precise and rumbles at any occasion.
The sub is passing only low frequency to the device. What it does is it gives it a powerful low end that complements the solenoids. 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
@@RetroRalph Ok?! Cool. Thank you for clarification.
Is the transducer firing when the solenoid activate or is it just hooked up to the music?
It will will only react to the music and sound effects.
Me thinks Ralph really like vibration 😎
Of course I do 😏
Where have all the subwoofers gone
WIll you look at developing a mod to make it 1080?
More power!! 😎
Thanks for watching bud! I hope all is well! Looking forward to your next video!
@@RetroRalph Thanks man. I have a few ideas floating around 😉
Any more upgrades coming?
I'm still happy with my nba jam cabinet I bought on clearance for under 300
Can you use the stock speakers with this mod?
It’s a long story but yes you can. For whatever reason multiple Y-splitters (TRRS to TRS) won’t work. However, they work on my outrun PCB. So I decided to not do the follow up video due to the inconsistencies. So it’s more of a “do at your own risk” mod since I can’t figure out why it’s happening. So while it can be done, I don’t feel comfortable with the process being a repeatable one so I’m not planning to do the follow up.
@@RetroRalph Will I be good if I get the upgraded speakers?
I love haptic bass.
I cannot wait to get this table.
Great job!
I haven't seen anyone mention this in the comments, but if you're worried about cutting the wires, just buy an HDMI sound extractor, then you can run an amp off that 😉
Has anybody done this mod on an Attack from Mars table? I just finished and it works great in the menus. However, once I get into the tables and play, the audio is noticeably lower quality than the menus and I get no bass coming from the Dayton Transducer puck. Very disappointing...hoping that the games are not just in mono or stereo 2.0 mode vs the 2.1 stereo mode the menus have.
Sounds good man
I need these BUT I live in a condo and yeah when my kid screams or yells we get a letter from the HOA so yeah this wouldn’t fly. So awesome though. :)
Now Justin has you pausing and thinking every time you say solenoid.
🤣🤣🤣 pretty much 😕
Sweet ....very good info here man thanks......i'm also playing with this on my vpin as well
What gauge speaker wire did you use to attach to the puck transducer?
I did this mod and used 14 gauge (it was what I had) and to be honest it’s way too thick. You should be fine with 16 or even 18.
@@s0u1assassin thanks, i actually used 24 gauge and it worked out well splicing together
Well, this video should make Natalie Painter happy. 😂
OMG 😆
@@RetroRalph Don't tell her I said that. 🤣
thank you nice presentation 👍👍👍
Wow! Now I see why your name was mentioned in other reviews that I've read... Great informative video.. I'm looking for a way to make my Marvel Pinball more like the more expensive Vpin machines and the bass shaker is right up the alley of what I'm looking for. I doubt I can do anything about the 720p but with the right mods like more real feel vibrations and rumble I can live with the 720p look. I'll be selling my 3 arcade games and replace them with a higher level Vpin please give me a few suggestions on moding the Marvel I have and what should be the next Vpin I should get that will give me all I want without ripping my wallet to shreds.. Thanks for the great video that answered some questions for me and looking forward to your suggestions.
Man I’d be doing good to just put the thing together, let alone mod it. Much respect to you though :) The main thing I would want that probably isn’t even possible would be glasses free 3D on the screen but I know that would be expensive for Arcade 1up and maybe not even possible. But depth on the table would be great!