@@pauleporterdp would you recommend the c70 then for run and gun cinematic travel videos? I use the gh5 but I want a little more dynamic range. the komodo seems great too but I don't want to spend $500 on a damn memory card lol
@@pauleporterdp is the dynamic range and image quality pretty much the same? those 2 are most important for me since I am always going to breaktaking places, and recreating the beautiful places I go to is paramount
GREAT content. well done. I own the C70 and love the image. With all the advantages of the C70 and how close the images are... I think I made the right choice!!
First time in here, I am more of a hybrid shooter, dslr style (yes dslr and not mirror less 😁) but enjoy watching camera reviews and comparisons. Definitely the top 2 or 3 in my opinion....no hype, no shouting, no gimmicks.....keep it up👍👍
Fantastic comparisons and information given. You covered all the important points. The C70 seems like a juggernaut of a camera for me! Thanks very much, looking forward to more videos from you 🤙🏽
I've shot on Canon for years, and while they are pricey I felt I was getting great images. But the Komodo is a game changer in many ways. And to say that your film, or project was shot on a Red camera will instantly get attention. The Red Komodo will (I hope) get a greater name recognition, thereby making more projects at higher fees. At the end of the day, name recognition is important.
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Been seriously considering using the C70 over the A7S3 on a regular basis. The Komodo has been on my radar, but is so much more expensive to use when considering all the kit needed to outfit it. Good review! Next up, compare the C70 w/ speedbooster and A7S3? I want to know how well the wide angle lenses work, like the 16-25 L v2 lens. :)
Nice review! Would be nice to see another comparison but using the Canon Speedbooster (EF-EOS R 0.71x) which turns them into a Full Frame cam. It works on the Komodo as well. I seen tests with the C-70 but not with Komodo.
Awesome! I've been waiting for a comparison like this...well done! You touched briefly on the RED's autofocus, and seemed to suggest it being usable/trustworthy for interview style, locked off shots. I understand it to be a center point phase detect system. Do you trust the RED autofocus for talking head shots?
Thanks. Yes it depends on the lens for example all my canon and Sigma lenses work fine my tamron doesn’t. Will go more in detail about that in my Komodo review for sure. But I’ve tested it several times for interviews at f2.0 and it was totally reliable.
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I use the canon vnd adapter from rf to ef. Currently I’m using my sigma and canon lenses on the Komodo. But I’m looking to get one of the sirui anamorphic lenses but I’m not sure yet
The fun fact about highlight recovery systems of the Red komodo is very bad, it’s loses a red channel, only green and blue are still there, red komodo is not even close to the C70 if we talk about DR, pocket 6k sensor is still better for the latitude test (real world scenario) so I think you’re a little bit bias, even one of best camera lab in the world “CineD”, they testing everything camera that out of the market, they said the dr of a komodo is like 12.5stop for the SNR = 2 (Signal-To-Noise-Ratio 2) but the c70 is 14.2stops this one is if you many famous dp in the film industry said red komodo very bad at highlight rolloff. btw, I used it twice and never use it again, but I admit that the R3D is the solid raw, just the ability of the sensor that couldn’t capture it.
Great review! I can't help but notice how the Canon looks slightly more washed out when you do a shot of a face. Does that have to do with focus or anything?
Thanks man :) no that’s due to the colour science and the conversion lut that canon provides. The red lut is a little more colourful. However the footage of both cameras can be manipulated how ever you want to. The Codecs are there also for heavy colour grading.
Hi Paule, great review - which cage are you using and will mounting a rail onto of the outrigger handle allow connection with a monitor using Red control?
Super Video vielen Dank dafür! Darf ich fragen wie lange die Wartezeit für die Red Komodo bei dir war? Ich hab sie auch bei Teltec bestellt, im November. Seither aber keine genaueren Infos mehr erhalten.
Hi Gerald, ich hab meine direkt im Oktober als Vorbestellungen möglich waren geordert. Bekommen habe ich sie am 20.11 also gut 6 Wochen Wartezeit. Soweit ich jetzt weiß kommt RED kaum mit dem liefern hinterher.
Cool comparison. I would be interested to see the 4k120 of the a7siii/fx3 compared to the c70. I believe the c70 actually loses DR in that mode because it cant use the dual gain anymore...just curious. I use the sony as im 95% running and gunning so ibis and compact codecs are essential, but i am regulalry amazed by the Quality whenever i grade it..
@@pauleporterdp I wonder how it would look if you rated it at 250 or or 400, given the shot is mostly in the shadows. Because RED has no native iso, rating it at 800 gives equal stops of detail to highlights and shadows (8 & 8).. if you rated it at 250 or 400 you’re giving more data to the shadows. I wonder if the same noise would’ve showed then, but I know you would’ve gained more latitude in post.
The c70 has a fantastic battery life great audio, built in ND and the best low light of all the 3 you mentioned. On top of that the image looks fantastic
@@pauleporterdp it’s interesting. But the file sizes of the 10 bit on the c70 look to be the same size as the raw from the Komodo and 6k pro. Am I correct in thinking that ?
The image is so close but the usability, ergonomics and framerates on C70 are way better. Komodo is a crash cam for big Red cameras on big sets, and it will never be as good for one operator small production, and that's exactly how this class of cameras are used for.
Can you get a XLR adapter for the Red Komodo, and most of all, will it sound good ? Also, ND filters, you have to use them manually all the time on the RED ? Did you use ND filters in your shots ? (thats all my questions haha)
Yes in most of the shoots I used the canon RF to EF adapter with VND inside. You can get an adapter from Red for XLR but still the preamps aren’t as good as from an external recorder. So I personally record externally
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There is always more than specs to a camera. Spending that much money on a camera which I can’t really use on a set due to lack of TC, shutter angle, and much more important aspects for a proper production camera. So the a1 is a photo camera after all
@@pauleporterdp All good points, just saying the C70 doesn’t have the best 4K 120 of any camera? But I do agree that it’s not a cinema camera in that it doesn’t have a lot of the practical essentials of a cinema camera but it’s dynamic range, latitude, color-science and frame rate are exceptional at 8K in full frame with very little rolling shutter so there’s something to be said for that?
Ok...thank you for the test, but do you have to shoot your opening at such a shallow DOF that the cameras you are talking about are blurry. Look, just because you can go 6” of DOP doesn’t mean you need to. Please, add more light, iris down to 5.6 and let’s see what you are talking about.
@@pauleporterdp I get it, I really do. But don’t you want to see the subject you are talking about? Not everything needs to be shot at a 1.4 in full frame just because you can...dare to be different-don’t be afraid to show something...but thanks for posting
Thanks for your feedback. This video was made purely because people asked for that in the comments of my single review of the c70 and single review of the Komodo. In these videos is the battery life explained. This very comparison was made out of the questions people asked me in the comments. I rather talk about the things you can’t get from a spec sheet but more so about my experiences working with the camera.
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This is awesome thanks man. The best comparison I’ve seen.
Thanks I’m very thankful that you guys like my work.
Agreed
Agreed, agreed! Excellent comparison.
Exactly the tests I was looking for, thanks for sharing!
Thanks Tyler. Glad that you liked it :)
@@pauleporterdp would you recommend the c70 then for run and gun cinematic travel videos? I use the gh5 but I want a little more dynamic range. the komodo seems great too but I don't want to spend $500 on a damn memory card lol
@@wcsdiaries yes go with the C70 for sure. The Komodo is for your needs too cumbersome (boot up time, black shading etc)
@@pauleporterdp is the dynamic range and image quality pretty much the same? those 2 are most important for me since I am always going to breaktaking places, and recreating the beautiful places I go to is paramount
@@wcsdiaries as you have seen in the comparison they’re pretty much equal Komodo is slightly better but not much so for practical reasons use the c70
The C70 is a Run & Gun shooter’s dream! The adapter for EF lenses is amazing as well!
Thanks for your feedback. Can’t wait to test the adapter.
You can read my mind, Paule. I've been waiting for this comparison from you!!!!
Ha ha yes finally it’s there ;) thank you
GREAT content. well done. I own the C70 and love the image. With all the advantages of the C70 and how close the images are... I think I made the right choice!!
Thanks for your feedback Scottie really appreciate that :)
Great video Paule. I agree with all of your findings in this video. I felt pretty much the same when I tested both side by side.
Thanks Griffin I’ve seen your video before and that inspired me to test the c70 against the Komodo as well ;)
First time in here, I am more of a hybrid shooter, dslr style (yes dslr and not mirror less 😁) but enjoy watching camera reviews and comparisons. Definitely the top 2 or 3 in my opinion....no hype, no shouting, no gimmicks.....keep it up👍👍
thanks will do :)
Fantastic comparisons and information given. You covered all the important points. The C70 seems like a juggernaut of a camera for me! Thanks very much, looking forward to more videos from you 🤙🏽
Thanks Mike. Yes more Videos are coming. Glad that you like my work.
I've shot on Canon for years, and while they are pricey I felt I was getting great images. But the Komodo is a game changer in many ways. And to say that your film, or project was shot on a Red camera will instantly get attention. The Red Komodo will (I hope) get a greater name recognition, thereby making more projects at higher fees. At the end of the day, name recognition is important.
Thanks for your feedback. Yes Red definitely is a name that even non filmmakers are familiar with. I love the image that comes out of it
Story is - that silly.
BEST COMPARAISON VIDEO I’VE WATCHED SO FAR, THANKS! And keep it up
Thanks man glad that you liked it :)
Great comparison Paule! I can’t imagine what that woman walking past at 8:25 was thinking haha
Ha ha True she was very confused 😜😜😜
Excellent work, I’ve been waiting for something like this
Thanks man really appreciate that.
Another great video
Thanks
I am proud to subscribe to your channel
I think your comparisons
It's one of the best on TH-cam
I hope more filmmakers can find this channel soon
Thanks my friend I hope that as well and I will definitely continue doing this Videos :)
Been seriously considering using the C70 over the A7S3 on a regular basis. The Komodo has been on my radar, but is so much more expensive to use when considering all the kit needed to outfit it. Good review! Next up, compare the C70 w/ speedbooster and A7S3? I want to know how well the wide angle lenses work, like the 16-25 L v2 lens. :)
Thanks my friend :) unfortunately I don’t have the c70 anymore and Sony doesn’t won’t to loan me a camera 😭
the speed booster works fine. i have it and the c70. i used it with the 18-35 1.8 the other day and it read as 1.2 . it looked amazing.
@@pauleporterdp Did you keep the Komodo? If so, why did you choose it over the C70?
Really enjoyed this review Paule
Thanks I’m glad that you like it :)
Great test my friend. I also find the Komodo seems to have more of a cinematic motion cadence over the c70. Would you agree? Cheers
Thanks 🙏🏻 I’m glad that you liked it.
Yes I totally agree :)
Nice review! Would be nice to see another comparison but using the Canon Speedbooster (EF-EOS R 0.71x) which turns them into a Full Frame cam. It works on the Komodo as well. I seen tests with the C-70 but not with Komodo.
I ordered the Speedbooster from Canon. Once I have it will directly Test it with the KOMODO for sure
@@pauleporterdp Awesome!
Awesome! I've been waiting for a comparison like this...well done! You touched briefly on the RED's autofocus, and seemed to suggest it being usable/trustworthy for interview style, locked off shots. I understand it to be a center point phase detect system. Do you trust the RED autofocus for talking head shots?
Thanks. Yes it depends on the lens for example all my canon and Sigma lenses work fine my tamron doesn’t. Will go more in detail about that in my Komodo review for sure. But I’ve tested it several times for interviews at f2.0 and it was totally reliable.
I think C70 is good for commercial and fashion too, thanks for the comparison!
You’re welcome thanks for comment
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Great job. Thanks. I like how the women turned around and walked away during your focus section... that's funny. I'm sure you looked crazy to her.
Ha ha yes totally 😜 she was very confused about what I’m doing in front of the cam :D
Great video ! What lens’s are you going to get for the Red? Also, what are you using for ND filters?
I use the canon vnd adapter from rf to ef. Currently I’m using my sigma and canon lenses on the Komodo. But I’m looking to get one of the sirui anamorphic lenses but I’m not sure yet
The fun fact about highlight recovery systems of the Red komodo is very bad, it’s loses a red channel, only green and blue are still there, red komodo is not even close to the C70 if we talk about DR, pocket 6k sensor is still better for the latitude test (real world scenario) so I think you’re a little bit bias, even one of best camera lab in the world “CineD”, they testing everything camera that out of the market, they said the dr of a komodo is like 12.5stop for the SNR = 2 (Signal-To-Noise-Ratio 2) but the c70 is 14.2stops this one is if you many famous dp in the film industry said red komodo very bad at highlight rolloff. btw, I used it twice and never use it again, but I admit that the R3D is the solid raw, just the ability of the sensor that couldn’t capture it.
Thanks for your feedback
Great review! I can't help but notice how the Canon looks slightly more washed out when you do a shot of a face. Does that have to do with focus or anything?
Thanks man :) no that’s due to the colour science and the conversion lut that canon provides. The red lut is a little more colourful.
However the footage of both cameras can be manipulated how ever you want to. The Codecs are there also for heavy colour grading.
@@pauleporterdp Thanks for the explanation. Do you find there is a bigger difference between the Red/Canon and the Blackmagic pocket camera?
Idky I’m here. I can’t afford either.
Thanks for watching. One day you will ;)
Hi Paule, great review - which cage are you using and will mounting a rail onto of the outrigger handle allow connection with a monitor using Red control?
I’m using the 8sinn NATO rail on top and on the side the GDu tinny rips ;)
Super Video vielen Dank dafür! Darf ich fragen wie lange die Wartezeit für die Red Komodo bei dir war? Ich hab sie auch bei Teltec bestellt, im November. Seither aber keine genaueren Infos mehr erhalten.
Hi Gerald, ich hab meine direkt im Oktober als Vorbestellungen möglich waren geordert. Bekommen habe ich sie am 20.11 also gut 6 Wochen Wartezeit. Soweit ich jetzt weiß kommt RED kaum mit dem liefern hinterher.
@@pauleporterdp Vielen Dank für die Info! Bin schon gespannt wann die nächste Lieferung eintrifft. Bin auf jeden Fall schon unglaublich gespannt.=)
Cool comparison. I would be interested to see the 4k120 of the a7siii/fx3 compared to the c70. I believe the c70 actually loses DR in that mode because it cant use the dual gain anymore...just curious. I use the sony as im 95% running and gunning so ibis and compact codecs are essential, but i am regulalry amazed by the Quality whenever i grade it..
Yes this would be interesting that’s true. Thanks for your feedback :)
It is true that everything over 60 fps C70 loses DGO and the dynamic range decreases, but even then it is slightly better than the Sony FX6
hello paule , thanks for your videos , i was curious about kninefinity mavo 6k or lf , vs komodo too , have you compared those ?
Thanks mate. No I haven’t had the chance to get a kinefinity here. It’s almost impossible to get them here in Germany
Paul what iso did you shoot Komodo with when you tested the dynamic range in the shot with your black jacket??
I used ISO 800 on both
@@pauleporterdp I wonder how it would look if you rated it at 250 or or 400, given the shot is mostly in the shadows. Because RED has no native iso, rating it at 800 gives equal stops of detail to highlights and shadows (8 & 8).. if you rated it at 250 or 400 you’re giving more data to the shadows. I wonder if the same noise would’ve showed then, but I know you would’ve gained more latitude in post.
I can’t decide between the c70. Pocket 6k or Komodo for a one man band that’s doing full on run and gun ?!
Go with the c70 in your case ;)
@@pauleporterdp what’s your reasoning ?!
I just want to make sure I can get just as good of an image with the c70
The c70 has a fantastic battery life great audio, built in ND and the best low light of all the 3 you mentioned. On top of that the image looks fantastic
@@pauleporterdp it’s interesting. But the file sizes of the 10 bit on the c70 look to be the same size as the raw from the Komodo and 6k pro. Am I correct in thinking that ?
this is interesting to watch great video
Thanks mate for watching
The image is so close but the usability, ergonomics and framerates on C70 are way better. Komodo is a crash cam for big Red cameras on big sets, and it will never be as good for one operator small production, and that's exactly how this class of cameras are used for.
Yes that’s true.
that's not true. It all depends on what you record and how you like to work, in many cases Komodo will be better even for single operator.
Which cases?
Can you get a XLR adapter for the Red Komodo, and most of all, will it sound good ? Also, ND filters, you have to use them manually all the time on the RED ? Did you use ND filters in your shots ? (thats all my questions haha)
Yes in most of the shoots I used the canon RF to EF adapter with VND inside. You can get an adapter from Red for XLR but still the preamps aren’t as good as from an external recorder. So I personally record externally
@@pauleporterdp thanks for the reply !
Thanks my man
You’re welcome :)
very helpful!
Thanks I’m glad that you liked it
what lens are you using for the talking head sections of the video?
Sigma 50mm Art ;)
@@pauleporterdp nice! the chromatic aberration on the corners is added in post? or is the natural look of this sigma 50mm? Love how organic it looks!
No that comes mainly from the speedbooster I’m using on my bmpcc 6k ;)
thanks DP 👏👏
You’re welcome :)
Do you have a video for the FX6?
Not yet :)
camera a was the better looking by a million miles
Thanks for your feedback mate
Me watching and can't afford either.
One day you will mate :)
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Hi Rey, yes I’ve received it. And will reply
4K 120 of the Sony A1 is superior AND you get sound! 😛
There is always more than specs to a camera. Spending that much money on a camera which I can’t really use on a set due to lack of TC, shutter angle, and much more important aspects for a proper production camera.
So the a1 is a photo camera after all
@@pauleporterdp All good points, just saying the C70 doesn’t have the best 4K 120 of any camera?
But I do agree that it’s not a cinema camera in that it doesn’t have a lot of the practical essentials of a cinema camera but it’s dynamic range, latitude, color-science and frame rate are exceptional at 8K in full frame with very little rolling shutter so there’s something to be said for that?
Absolutely, I mean what they managed to put into this little camera is crazy.
I haven’t shot on it myself but I’m curious to see how good the 4k120 is
Ok...thank you for the test, but do you have to shoot your opening at such a shallow DOF that the cameras you are talking about are blurry. Look, just because you can go 6” of DOP doesn’t mean you need to. Please, add more light, iris down to 5.6 and let’s see what you are talking about.
Everybody’s taste is different. I understand your point.
@@pauleporterdp I get it, I really do. But don’t you want to see the subject you are talking about? Not everything needs to be shot at a 1.4 in full frame just because you can...dare to be different-don’t be afraid to show something...but thanks for posting
Bro you talk to much around, go straight to the points, you didn't even said how much the batteries last in the Komodo for talking to much!! min 4:15
Thanks for your feedback.
This video was made purely because people asked for that in the comments of my single review of the c70 and single review of the Komodo.
In these videos is the battery life explained.
This very comparison was made out of the questions people asked me in the comments.
I rather talk about the things you can’t get from a spec sheet but more so about my experiences working with the camera.