I think it means that Skarner tribe originally was around Shurima and Ixtal border. He saw the Ixtalians settlers, and move in deeper into Ixtal after some time to create the capital, leaving his tribe that is now to the west of him. That's why it said the Humans came from the east.
I think they are referring to the Westward Migration of people from the first lands, Ionia. If you were in Ixtal that would be people coming from the East. Not Shurima
Rek'sai, Giant Broodmother of doom, you never see her before she is directly under you and probably just ate your mount / you. Skarner, not only can he see her as if the ground wasn't there, he is big enough to crush her like a human would a mouse. Also he could literally manipulate the earth to spit her out just to make it easier to get ahold of her. Maybe that is why she sticks around Shurima and not venturing much further out. She is the big fish there, she is not even a pebble elsewhere, and she is aware of that.
@@OrrissanI'm all for a powerful girl boss who also knows how to stay in her lane. If she were human, she would be the absolute most powerhouse of a woman who will eat a man whole, while still being wholesome and supporting.
A tale as old as time. Man meets dog, man loves dog, dog eats the whole dang chocolate bar (WHY), man goes crazy with the peroxide and ensures it never happens again.
@@timexyemerald6290I would say hes not necessarily a villain. He still has good intentions, its just the paranoia sinking in that makes him think of doing these radical decisions
@@lolsurtr4744 As they say, road to hell is paved with good intentions. You might have the best intentions ever, but still be a villain if you go about it the wrong way.
so skarner has become a badger mole from avatar? listens to vibrations, listens and waits, has rock based powers and lives secluded in a (secret) tunnel?
Didn't the story say that the Ixtali people migrated to the jungle, which would mean that the country and place was named after the people and not the other way round? This would mean that the Ixtali could still take part in creating the Ascended, not as a country but as a tribe of people.
Before Skarner the ixtali doesn't have elements magic either so how do they help? Work as construction worker for Shurima to build the sun dish?😂 That is pretty anti-climatic
That’s also my head cannon, they saw the mess that was Seraphine’s original lore so to save their skinseller e-girl they just decided to retcon hextech
The race that Skarnee is from should have unlimited growth potential, but since they live underground they never get too big, maybe still very large like bus or train size, but not the size of Skarner. The reason he is as big as he is, is bc he lived above ground for so long and was able to grow freely, however he has stopped growing since he returned to the underground
@dracotoy he practically is a lobster so it would make sense tbh, maybe they need to constantly shed their skins to grow in size, but that just doesn't happen/isnt possible underground, idk but I think skarner should be unique for his race and its bc he has lived above ground/with people
I like this idea, it has a real life point to be based off, and gives more depth to their race. The brakener clearly didn't had much reason to stay aboveground and by how Skarner reacted to how "people were there one second and gone the next" their sense of time perception is very different from ours, Skarner is an outlier not the norm, it even makes him seem more special in comparison.
it was a stupid lore. they made him a Vallian of the story. it doesn't matter he had good intentions. Thanos had good intentions but look at him now. they made him into midboss canon fodder🙄🙄😒😒
Hey Necrit! Small correction from a fan! This is a great video but from the east would be the opposite side of Shurima. I think they are referring to the Westward Migration of people from the first lands, Ionia. If you were in Ixtal that would be people coming from the East. Not Shurima
the monsterverse in ruinterra sounds funny with the hollow earth idea. I mean the rest of the clans have to be somewhere, and if Skarner is the only one people have seen, they likely are in a space below ground. Could be a fun place to make cho real in ruinterra. I like the idea of cho being Bel's pet project to destroy the world if she fails to take it over, but idea of void born being in hollow earth and that is where cho has been all this time would be pretty interesting.
@@dracotoy well it can still work, not that the void has to be a weird area in hollow runterra. It’s just another place the corruption reached and some void born spilled into. Given how huge skarner kin are likely to grow, it’s not a stretch to assume something like Cho could grow to an enormous size in that place as well. Given what Cho even is and grows the more they eat, it’s only really the ocean or hollow earth that could justify an existence like them could go unnoticed while growing larger and larger until it’s a threat to the world.
Shurima is to the West, not the East. East is where Viego (Camavor) and Nilah (Kathkan) are from. The people from the East also settled on the Blessed Isles and Bilgewater.
My biggest problem with the new story is that they seemingly only did this to make the arcane cast and other Piltovian champions look better. I mean Jayce and Victor should know where they come from as they are probably the only ones buying them. That would also make Victor who is a fan favourite a big hypocrite and everyone else at one point would either have to throw their weapons away or continue using the enslaved half-dead/undead/dead Brackern. So instead they cut Skarners and the Brackerns connection with the Hexcrystals and turned one of the only champions in League who suffered from oppresion into a paranoid, almost schizophrenic, kaiju-sized tyrant, who basically enslaved all of the Ixtal and I guess would prefer to kill them then let them have their own free will.
See I'm doing reading and can't find any connection to skarner and the hex crystals anymore. They only wanted two seasons of Arcane so I assume they didn't have time to deal with all the potential champions who could've been involved, like a plot idea of skarner needing to retrieve the stolen hex crystals.
7:30 Just because Ixtali played significant role in creating first Ascended, doesn't mean they were part of Shuriman Empire, so it's not a plothole in my opinion. Maybe there were diplamatic allies until Shurima decided to start conquering, maybe some Ixtali people left their city and joined Shurima first, or maybe Ixtali people were kidnapped and forced into helping.
It is a plothole because the Ixtali people are the settlers from the east. They were nowhere near Shurima. "When Skarner was older, it was through these vibrations that he detected a dramatic shift in the continent, marked by the arrival of settlers from the east... He surveyed these "Ixtali" people...." They were the ones settling from the opposite side of Shurima. Necrit sort of confused things by mixing up his East and West, methinks. So for the Ascended to cause Skarner such consternation and concern they would necessarily have to exist prior to or closely in sync with the arrival of the Ixtali settlers from the East.
@@Kaelyn91 It is likely that settlers would send scouts, who would then stumble upon Shurima and stayed there (either as diplomats or prisoners), so I still don't consider that a plothole.
@@OKIGorgon Perhaps so, but that seems like a super relevant bit of info to include in the story, what with Skarner living within their community and still sensing the vibrations around the continent. It would be major oversight on his part to not mention people going missing as they're his "project" and he'd already been cited as saving their lives much earlier in the story than when the Ascended are even mentioned. I won't deny that it's definitely possible, but if that does turn out to be the case it'll be a major flaw in his story in general, just from a writing standpoint.
7:33 Ixtal first member was in Surima and they do help to create the first Ascended, they left their home because of the corruption for power. Those guy met Skarner and form Ixtal, well they do have something to exchange for the protection from him.
Considering the size of Runeterra map as we know it so far, and how massive Skarner is, it is literaly to assume that the map of Runeterra we have now is probably like 5-10% of the actual planet, because to sustain whole several clans of these massives beings, the planet would either have to be massive, OR, it's like spiders, where the majority of them perish before reaching a size as big as Skarner
Skarner is “one of a kind” bc his species has unlimited growth potential but they don’t get to his size, I saw some other people in this comments section and other say that they are large but skarner is way bigger bc he spent more time in the surface so he was able to grow more. I hope they with this route since it would make him more unique.
13:36 hollow runeterra theory we might go deep because skarner race the brekern are titan class monster . I hope riot will add more titan class champion in the future that might connect skarner race.
My theory about the Brakkern size (having not read the new lore fully) is that they grow with age, and Skarner is only as big as he is because he’s so old. Although to be fair, that then implies that there should be other Brakkern even bigger than he is lol
Hey Necrit. Would it be possible to do a video explaining how each champion fits in the lore timeline. I know it's not perfect but I think it be an awesome video. It can even be like a 2 hour long movie video mega project. Get the lore people on a discord or kidnap a riot employee and get him to spill the details. When you mentioned malphite in this video I'd love to know more of how each champion pushed the story of runeterra. Have a good day regardless
Strong TITAN, trying to protect "his people"... isolating the city and telling everyone that the world outside is dead... Did someone just speedruned Attack on Titan on weekend and came up with idea for new scarner lore?
Wait, if they fix Skarner's origin and he has nothing to do with Hextech anymore. Hextech also transitions to ancient Rune origins, meaning Seraphine is no longer talking to scorpions in Hextech crystals, she is talking to ancient ghosts?
Ok, now I want her to be an necromancer bard. Talking to ancient spirits of the damned. Making soft pop music out of metal af origins. Wait hold up, what if they made her crystals capture the souls or voices of those who die in Zaun? Well piltover and zauns but more die in Zaun obviously.
no they corrupted his lore and made him a true villain of the story. in the past at least he was like that because his Real brethren was being hunted down but now they made it so he is being paranoid because his lil science project is being threatened . they made him into midboss cannonfodder. it doesn't matter if he had good intentions. thanos had good intentions but look at him now
i think the "become the roots of its destruction" line means that, he will do anything to protect ixtal, even if that overprotection ends up leading to their self destruction or something like an outside attack is able to reach the city and no one is prepared to defend themselves becasue they know nothing about the outside world
Honestly they just need to make a champ that stumbles upon hextech, is able to communicate with the souls lingering in them and decides to desroy piltover while raising an undead army of hextech souls to avenge themselves
HOLLOW RUNETERRA THEORY LETS FUGGIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Forreal though, that opens up so many options for cool stuff, since we the void seem to love being underground.
Hollow runeterra confirmed, the Brackern live underground and even beneath them, at the very core of runeterra, lives something far more obscure... Shaco's Lore.
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I would have loved if they made all alive breckern share a mass quantity due to magic or something, so the more breckern there are, the smaller... And the less there are, well... Skarner :')
They all teleported briefly to the realm out of canon, just so that skins and shiny new champions had time to shine in that empty world, Ruination arc like a stage play, existing in a vacuum with no outside influence@@GoldLight73
The ruination didn't really reached Ixtal, the most involvement they got is Rengar joining the Sentinels and even that doesn't seems to be canon anymore
Skarners new lore is very good imo. People don’t understand the end but I think it’s similar to those stories about AI killing humanity cause it was the best way to keep them safe. He will do anything even kill them if it means he doesn’t have to witness their pain again, his paranoia spear heading this
it was stupid downgrade lore change. he is a full on villain now. at least in the past his real familly was being killed but now he is paranoid cause his lil science "project" might get messed up. they made him the villain of the story that functions as midboss canonfodder. it doesn't matter if he had good intentions. thanos had good intentions but look at him now.
The biggest question I would like to address is the Vidalion related to Skarner? Like can be as a gift initially to translate Brackern's language into Ixtalis as they see seismic vibrations as threads and implied as easier communication between their kin.
Since there are other brekern, couldn't they still keep the lore with Camille and Seraphine just change it from Skarner having direct influence on the story with another tribe being affected. Could solve the size of brekern concern if they are being killed while still adolescent?
In regards to the size, i think it might be safe to assume that skarner is about the same size as the broodmother by now... maybe.... perhaps because he specifically stayed behind to "learn the ways" he's an exception and grew that big despite the rest of his clan remaining smaller (yet probably still big compared to humans)
I think an easy way to fill in the gap without deleting the idea that Ixtak had a hand in the creation of the ascendant is also pretty simple: have the one who started that experimentation be an Ixtali Scholar or a number of them.
things evolve and get bigger when they get access to more oxygen so since skarner spent a long time on the surface he probably got ALOT bigger with time (since there's not alot of oxygen underground where brakern mostly spend their time)
>Ixtal portion says that they partook in the first ascension >Whereas Skarner's portion says he watched the ascended fight for land before Ixtal even joined them My Headcanon is just that each portion of the lore is written in the way of the POV of each of the characters and/or civilizations Ixtal people saying they helped with the first ascension except they never noticed the ascended people that Skarner did see (I mean considering the size of skarner he could see things way far than humans would) again, just a headcanon As for the last sentence "Even if he becomes the root of their destruction" my read is that he'll protect Ixtal at whatever cost, even if that leads to the city coming down by itself Similarly to stories/series/movies where they show overprotection, where the one that is being overprotected starts to crumble in despair and desperation at the lack of freedom, like how you woudl go insane by staying in a single room and nothing more if Skarner forces Ixtal people to remain, the civilization may go into insanity and/or cause the Ixtal people to hate him and come to an act of war that the sentence is less of Skarner's POV into destroying the city, and more in a narrating POV where the city may come to hell if Skarner enforces people to stay.
I thought his story would be about how his clan got corrupted by void which is why he's the last one. Something like the first mage asked for the bracken to help and after losing hid Ixtal. Well if they are dead underground, Piltover going into Ixtal to harvest Bracken fossils.
The fact skarner is so huge he could probably be seen in the map makes him having a full race feel like a big miscalculation, either we've got hollow earth going on or they just didn't even realize that made skarner too big to be a normal race
Riot should hire Necrit as lorekeeper. So he can supervise the creation in the new lore and find where things don't match up, before they publish new lore
Just like I am suprised RIOT doesnt run things past Vadriril to check for bugs before release. I am suprised RIOT does not run lore past Necrit to check for inconsistencies
Maybe the underground of Runeterra is larger than the world itself. Like a magical bag of holding. If that were the case, Riot would never run out of potential areas for their MMO, even if they only stayed on Valoran and didn't explore other continents.
What if they change it so all the remnants of the brackern were affected by the void and turned into the Xersai or whatever reksai is, they did mention having a keen awareness of vibrations
I don't believe there's a lore plot hole with Ixtal and the Ascended. My best guess is that Ixtal did help the Shuriman Empire create the first Ascended. The Ascended then conquered other parts of the Shurima continent, but didn't attack Ixtal itself. Instead, the Shuriman Empire invited Ixtal to form an alliance, which Ixtal accepted. ^_^
The explanation for Shurima X Ixtal relationship could be simple, members of the Ixtali people participate in the creation of the ascended before the whole nation joined the empire. But Skarner wouldn’t have known of that fact, so from his point of view they didn’t know of each other
we can safely say Skarner's traumatized after seeing all the human deceit and greed and the void's destruction which made him uncapable of seeing an alternative to seclusion. He's simply obsessed with his own idea of safety due to trauma, to him, if ixtal opens up, it's as good as destroyed so it would make no difference if he destroyed it first regardless, probably.
11:44 Yeah they didnt think this through… They DESPERATELY wanted to get that “““““““Horror“““““““ element in there Edit: This isnt Horror at all. This is some tagged on, wannabe - M. Night Shamalan - nonsense
Have you ever read Skarner's original story? It was pretty dark too. The idea of a giant MONSTER destroying its personal pet project out of anger from what they've done and paranoia fits perfectly. Not all champs are the good guys
@@DarkLordTalon i think the problem is that Riot said themselves that they wanted to keep skarner being a good alinged character. Which, they did... in a way that makes him look evil.
@@lv4715 And one of the first things the original Skarner did was murdering a ton of people by cutting them to bloody ribbons. He's never been a super good person.
@@leetriBUT they were from the same species that killed everyone of his species, and not only killed but are constantly torturing their souls to use as fuel for their toasters. I would be pretty pissed as well He's more like a Monster of Frankenstein kinda of thing, he's not bad just depressed
@@usarhabilidade2697 Except pretty much only the Ferros family knew that the crystals were alive, the miners just thought they had found a bunch of dead crystals. He immediately resorted to violence when he woke up and tore people to shreds, he didn't even know that others had been harvested before him. Also, I shouldn't have to say this but immediately resorting to murdering people just because they're of the same species isn't a good thing that good people do. He could've just burst out of the sand and scared people away, because people did start fleeing in terror when they saw that one of them were alive.
runetera is hollow now thats the biggest consipiracy ive heard in that case im borrwing some of garens arm pads in demacia turn it into a consipiracy hat
Maybe Skarner's unique, secluded way of life has led him to survive far longer than most, and brackern keep growing forever like lobsters. Like, they don't usually get _that_ large or live for that long.
This thing about energy flowing, sounds alot like ley-lines from gw2, and now thinking about, world runes sounds alot like bloodstones, but hey, I liked the new story from Skarner, really did.
Yeah I hate that they're making him an antagonist. The setup feels like a step in the right direction, but at the end of the day, he's still a monster to be opposed, not a savior of his people (even if he was a doomed one originally). I feel like having the Void directly do something to the Brackern, and this leading him to those years of isolation -> the world is now changing and the Ixtal that he once knew is long gone -> he must learn to overcome the pain of the past (a send up to his old personality) and advise/lead Ixtal before it makes the same mistakes or worse. You still have a source of conflict, but he's still a fundamentally compassionate character who's not being presented as a problem Qiyana or Milio will have to "solve"
@@DarkLordTalon I disagree, his people are dead And it's pretty reasonable to be pissed at a species that well...led everyone of your kind to extinction because they are too lazy to walk and needed something to power their remote controls
@@DarkLordTalon his real people are Brackern. not the humans. but now they changed it and made hime the Real Villain of the story. it was a stupid lore retcon. they retconned it to make their golden child Cammille not look bad. 😒😒🙄🙄
@@timexyemerald6290 jesus, you guys see a big monster with a morality put into test and think it's an antagonist cus' hes gonna do whatever the fuck to protect ixtal. It's not a Antagonist. It's just a big monster who wants the best for this kingdom
lore is a blank slate right now. Only thing we have confirmed so far is kayle/morgana/aatrox story, arcane story, ashe/tryndamere, kindred lore and smolder lore and now skarner. whole ixtal lore can be easily scrapped and that should be ok as long once they reveal new lore they stick to it and dont fuck it up
The last questions have an easy answer: runeterra is flat, and by digging too much the brackern fall off
Impossible theres bedrock at y-64
i like this
The deserts are to the west of Ixtal, settlers from the east implies that they're from the eastern continent, so maybe Camavor?
I think it means that Skarner tribe originally was around Shurima and Ixtal border. He saw the Ixtalians settlers, and move in deeper into Ixtal after some time to create the capital, leaving his tribe that is now to the west of him. That's why it said the Humans came from the east.
Maybe they wrapped around?
Maybe the map we have is upside down
Necrit casually mixing up cardinal directions
I think they are referring to the Westward Migration of people from the first lands, Ionia. If you were in Ixtal that would be people coming from the East. Not Shurima
Skarner is Rek'sai's hard counter in the lore
Was thinking the same thing. They should add a mini quest when they're vs each other
Rek'sai, Giant Broodmother of doom, you never see her before she is directly under you and probably just ate your mount / you.
Skarner, not only can he see her as if the ground wasn't there, he is big enough to crush her like a human would a mouse. Also he could literally manipulate the earth to spit her out just to make it easier to get ahold of her.
Maybe that is why she sticks around Shurima and not venturing much further out. She is the big fish there, she is not even a pebble elsewhere, and she is aware of that.
@@OrrissanI'm all for a powerful girl boss who also knows how to stay in her lane. If she were human, she would be the absolute most powerhouse of a woman who will eat a man whole, while still being wholesome and supporting.
Now I want a kaiju skinline with Rek'sai, Skarner, Malphite, Cho'gath and Bel'veth. A cinematic of them fighting would be awsome
@@Zerael252 some of them already got the mecha kaiju thingy.. hopefully Riot will make them as "scary" Kaiju rather than a giant mech
A tale as old as time. Man meets dog, man loves dog, dog eats the whole dang chocolate bar (WHY), man goes crazy with the peroxide and ensures it never happens again.
LOL
I though this was a John Whic reference.
This is genius.
Soooo Skarner's a Neet mommys boy who plays Civ and gets mad when he loses so destroys his own civilization before someone else can...
they made him villain
@@timexyemerald6290I would say hes not necessarily a villain. He still has good intentions, its just the paranoia sinking in that makes him think of doing these radical decisions
@@lolsurtr4744 As they say, road to hell is paved with good intentions. You might have the best intentions ever, but still be a villain if you go about it the wrong way.
more of an anti villain, good (or somewhat good) intentions and motivations but very bad ways of acting upon it
@@lolsurtr4744 This is a villain, the "for the greater good" like Thanos
so skarner has become a badger mole from avatar? listens to vibrations, listens and waits, has rock based powers and lives secluded in a (secret) tunnel?
SECRET TUNNEL!
@@BlaxeFrost-X I remember the rest of the song. "AND DIE"
Didn't the story say that the Ixtali people migrated to the jungle, which would mean that the country and place was named after the people and not the other way round? This would mean that the Ixtali could still take part in creating the Ascended, not as a country but as a tribe of people.
Before Skarner the ixtali doesn't have elements magic either so how do they help? Work as construction worker for Shurima to build the sun dish?😂 That is pretty anti-climatic
@@wabalaka1565 But the question is whether they had others things before that.
They had to forcefully retcon his lore just to save Seraphine's ass🤣
More like to save themselves. Too many saw the comparisons between his lore and real life examples, so it was a bit political lol
That’s also my head cannon, they saw the mess that was Seraphine’s original lore so to save their skinseller e-girl they just decided to retcon hextech
Sera main here
@@DeltaMad Wouldn't it be funny if they released a new champ that is just old skarner lol.
Bro seraphine is just a crazy person now claiming that she can hear voices in the crystals 😂
The race that Skarnee is from should have unlimited growth potential, but since they live underground they never get too big, maybe still very large like bus or train size, but not the size of Skarner. The reason he is as big as he is, is bc he lived above ground for so long and was able to grow freely, however he has stopped growing since he returned to the underground
Make his race rock lobsters mhmhm
@dracotoy he practically is a lobster so it would make sense tbh, maybe they need to constantly shed their skins to grow in size, but that just doesn't happen/isnt possible underground, idk but I think skarner should be unique for his race and its bc he has lived above ground/with people
I like this idea, it has a real life point to be based off, and gives more depth to their race.
The brakener clearly didn't had much reason to stay aboveground and by how Skarner reacted to how "people were there one second and gone the next" their sense of time perception is very different from ours, Skarner is an outlier not the norm, it even makes him seem more special in comparison.
"Is Runeterra hollow?"
No but I'd bet it has something similar to the underdark in D&D.
I love that!
But isn't the underdark just the D&D version of the hollow earth? It's still a massive cave system with lots of creatures and races
i love the idea of skarner, a bug, oversees the humans as ant-keepers oversees ant colonies
Once again everything is bright again
We shall bask in this light so can endure the darkness that shall follow.
Again
ya think?get ready for 6 month no more lore develope again.
it was a stupid lore. they made him a Vallian of the story. it doesn't matter he had good intentions. Thanos had good intentions but look at him now.
they made him into midboss canon fodder🙄🙄😒😒
@@timexyemerald6290 kinda true tho
Hey Necrit! Small correction from a fan!
This is a great video but from the east would be the opposite side of Shurima. I think they are referring to the Westward Migration of people from the first lands, Ionia. If you were in Ixtal that would be people coming from the East. Not Shurima
Or they could be people who migrated from Buhru or Helia, or another place entirely that was destroyed during the Rune Wars.
Necrit at 1:17: "Because it really feels like the good old days of simply getting good stories"
Skarner at 1:17: "...but I am no mere story"
they made him villain of the story
the monsterverse in ruinterra sounds funny with the hollow earth idea. I mean the rest of the clans have to be somewhere, and if Skarner is the only one people have seen, they likely are in a space below ground. Could be a fun place to make cho real in ruinterra. I like the idea of cho being Bel's pet project to destroy the world if she fails to take it over, but idea of void born being in hollow earth and that is where cho has been all this time would be pretty interesting.
And they could easily retcon the current void rifts as corrupted hollow areas that were unearthed when the void tried expanding further up.
I would honestly hate if they did that. The void does much better as a cosmic horror dimension over monsters from within the earth
@@dracotoy well it can still work, not that the void has to be a weird area in hollow runterra. It’s just another place the corruption reached and some void born spilled into. Given how huge skarner kin are likely to grow, it’s not a stretch to assume something like Cho could grow to an enormous size in that place as well. Given what Cho even is and grows the more they eat, it’s only really the ocean or hollow earth that could justify an existence like them could go unnoticed while growing larger and larger until it’s a threat to the world.
It doesnt need to be hollow, just a bunch of caves and tunnels
Shurima is to the West, not the East. East is where Viego (Camavor) and Nilah (Kathkan) are from. The people from the East also settled on the Blessed Isles and Bilgewater.
Ohno.... castle instead of caste, Naafiri Jungle and now he is getting the map wrong...
@@Frostile on a channel abt lore, i think minor corrections are appreciated
I loved his crystal looked. I will miss that the most
Crystal rose skarner
they made him villain of the story
@@timexyemerald6290 Hes not a villain hes just very overprotective
@@timexyemerald6290you are wrong
That's a really good story. It sounds like a bit of the start of Attack on Titan.
The comment I was looking for!
champion 1000 of league will be a fucking hallucigenia that supports other champions by making them giant
My biggest problem with the new story is that they seemingly only did this to make the arcane cast and other Piltovian champions look better. I mean Jayce and Victor should know where they come from as they are probably the only ones buying them. That would also make Victor who is a fan favourite a big hypocrite and everyone else at one point would either have to throw their weapons away or continue using the enslaved half-dead/undead/dead Brackern. So instead they cut Skarners and the Brackerns connection with the Hexcrystals and turned one of the only champions in League who suffered from oppresion into a paranoid, almost schizophrenic, kaiju-sized tyrant, who basically enslaved all of the Ixtal and I guess would prefer to kill them then let them have their own free will.
See I'm doing reading and can't find any connection to skarner and the hex crystals anymore. They only wanted two seasons of Arcane so I assume they didn't have time to deal with all the potential champions who could've been involved, like a plot idea of skarner needing to retrieve the stolen hex crystals.
7:30 Just because Ixtali played significant role in creating first Ascended, doesn't mean they were part of Shuriman Empire, so it's not a plothole in my opinion. Maybe there were diplamatic allies until Shurima decided to start conquering, maybe some Ixtali people left their city and joined Shurima first, or maybe Ixtali people were kidnapped and forced into helping.
It is a plothole because the Ixtali people are the settlers from the east. They were nowhere near Shurima.
"When Skarner was older, it was through these vibrations that he detected a dramatic shift in the continent, marked by the arrival of settlers from the east...
He surveyed these "Ixtali" people...."
They were the ones settling from the opposite side of Shurima. Necrit sort of confused things by mixing up his East and West, methinks. So for the Ascended to cause Skarner such consternation and concern they would necessarily have to exist prior to or closely in sync with the arrival of the Ixtali settlers from the East.
@@Kaelyn91 It is likely that settlers would send scouts, who would then stumble upon Shurima and stayed there (either as diplomats or prisoners), so I still don't consider that a plothole.
@@OKIGorgon Perhaps so, but that seems like a super relevant bit of info to include in the story, what with Skarner living within their community and still sensing the vibrations around the continent. It would be major oversight on his part to not mention people going missing as they're his "project" and he'd already been cited as saving their lives much earlier in the story than when the Ascended are even mentioned. I won't deny that it's definitely possible, but if that does turn out to be the case it'll be a major flaw in his story in general, just from a writing standpoint.
7:33 Ixtal first member was in Surima and they do help to create the first Ascended, they left their home because of the corruption for power. Those guy met Skarner and form Ixtal, well they do have something to exchange for the protection from him.
Considering the size of Runeterra map as we know it so far, and how massive Skarner is, it is literaly to assume that the map of Runeterra we have now is probably like 5-10% of the actual planet, because to sustain whole several clans of these massives beings, the planet would either have to be massive, OR, it's like spiders, where the majority of them perish before reaching a size as big as Skarner
Skarner is “one of a kind” bc his species has unlimited growth potential but they don’t get to his size, I saw some other people in this comments section and other say that they are large but skarner is way bigger bc he spent more time in the surface so he was able to grow more. I hope they with this route since it would make him more unique.
13:36 hollow runeterra theory we might go deep because skarner race the brekern are titan class monster . I hope riot will add more titan class champion in the future that might connect skarner race.
Makes me appreciate the lore a bit more, thanks Necrit!
My theory about the Brakkern size (having not read the new lore fully) is that they grow with age, and Skarner is only as big as he is because he’s so old. Although to be fair, that then implies that there should be other Brakkern even bigger than he is lol
Hey Necrit. Would it be possible to do a video explaining how each champion fits in the lore timeline. I know it's not perfect but I think it be an awesome video. It can even be like a 2 hour long movie video mega project. Get the lore people on a discord or kidnap a riot employee and get him to spill the details. When you mentioned malphite in this video I'd love to know more of how each champion pushed the story of runeterra. Have a good day regardless
Republican Galio lore goes hard
Strong TITAN, trying to protect "his people"... isolating the city and telling everyone that the world outside is dead... Did someone just speedruned Attack on Titan on weekend and came up with idea for new scarner lore?
Wait, if they fix Skarner's origin and he has nothing to do with Hextech anymore. Hextech also transitions to ancient Rune origins, meaning Seraphine is no longer talking to scorpions in Hextech crystals, she is talking to ancient ghosts?
PHASMOPHOBIA SERAPHINE
Ok, now I want her to be an necromancer bard. Talking to ancient spirits of the damned. Making soft pop music out of metal af origins. Wait hold up, what if they made her crystals capture the souls or voices of those who die in Zaun? Well piltover and zauns but more die in Zaun obviously.
Man serphine could be so much cooler in so many ways if they just reinvented her s bit.
Wasn't she retconned like a week after her story came out? she no longer talks with hextech crystals
I like that his main goal is still protective in nature
no they corrupted his lore and made him a true villain of the story. in the past at least he was like that because his Real brethren was being hunted down but now they made it so he is being paranoid because his lil science project is being threatened .
they made him into midboss cannonfodder. it doesn't matter if he had good intentions. thanos had good intentions but look at him now
9:15 *cough* *cough* Attack on Titan Plot
i think the "become the roots of its destruction" line means that, he will do anything to protect ixtal, even if that overprotection ends up leading to their self destruction or something like an outside attack is able to reach the city and no one is prepared to defend themselves becasue they know nothing about the outside world
imagine if runeterra has something like godzilla's hollow earth. that would be interesting
Honestly they just need to make a champ that stumbles upon hextech, is able to communicate with the souls lingering in them and decides to desroy piltover while raising an undead army of hextech souls to avenge themselves
Nah.
So Skarner is now a very possessive yandere girlfriend
SKARNER IN 2025 CINEMATIC FOR SURE
7:37 It does say Likely. Not 100% for sure. I get that it's still a plot hole, but they kinda maybe gave themselves a bit of an out there maybe sorta.
Maplhite appears to be having a visual update next 🔥
So it seems like Ixtal is like the walled city in Aeon Flux but with a paranoid tyrant named Skarner🤣🤣🤣🤣
HOLLOW RUNETERRA THEORY LETS FUGGIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Forreal though, that opens up so many options for cool stuff, since we the void seem to love being underground.
Hollow runeterra confirmed, the Brackern live underground and even beneath them, at the very core of runeterra, lives something far more obscure...
Shaco's Lore.
The scuttle crabs are not baby Brackern.
The scuttle crabs are not baby Brackern.
The scuttle crabs are not baby Brackern.
😱
you can see the baby Bracken in the new Wild Rift update
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Keep it up!
I would have loved if they made all alive breckern share a mass quantity due to magic or something, so the more breckern there are, the smaller... And the less there are, well... Skarner :')
Now I want to know what he was doing during the ruination
You can ask that question about a lot of characters
They all teleported briefly to the realm out of canon, just so that skins and shiny new champions had time to shine in that empty world, Ruination arc like a stage play, existing in a vacuum with no outside influence@@GoldLight73
He already walled ixtal in when ruination happened
The ruination didn't really reached Ixtal, the most involvement they got is Rengar joining the Sentinels and even that doesn't seems to be canon anymore
Enjoying his seclusion.
That segment when Necrit talks about how magic flows in the planet, reminds me of the lifestream from FF7.
Skarners new lore is very good imo. People don’t understand the end but I think it’s similar to those stories about AI killing humanity cause it was the best way to keep them safe. He will do anything even kill them if it means he doesn’t have to witness their pain again, his paranoia spear heading this
Skarner should get cinematic
it was stupid downgrade lore change. he is a full on villain now. at least in the past his real familly was being killed but now he is paranoid cause his lil science "project" might get messed up.
they made him the villain of the story that functions as midboss canonfodder. it doesn't matter if he had good intentions. thanos had good intentions but look at him now.
@@timexyemerald6290 Skarner should get cinematic
Truly
@@timexyemerald6290 They hated him so they replaced him
when u described the first time skarner met humans it felt like the same way i would describe seeing a colony of ants
The biggest question I would like to address is the Vidalion related to Skarner? Like can be as a gift initially to translate Brackern's language into Ixtalis as they see seismic vibrations as threads and implied as easier communication between their kin.
Wild rift is now adding brecklings as objective which i think is really cool of them to explore some of skarners new lore
Since there are other brekern, couldn't they still keep the lore with Camille and Seraphine just change it from Skarner having direct influence on the story with another tribe being affected. Could solve the size of brekern concern if they are being killed while still adolescent?
I love this take!
Same exact idea I had, easiest fix ever, but nah crystals are "generic" and can't have seraphine be morally grey
Seraphine is trash anyway. Who cares.
@@thesunshinewrathhungabunga1845and we're trying to make her not trash, move along child
@@tenderandmoist5011 Her lore is trash. Who cares.
In regards to the size, i think it might be safe to assume that skarner is about the same size as the broodmother by now... maybe....
perhaps because he specifically stayed behind to "learn the ways" he's an exception and grew that big despite the rest of his clan remaining smaller (yet probably still big compared to humans)
Skarner literally is just a soft protective puppy. So Adorable
I think an easy way to fill in the gap without deleting the idea that Ixtak had a hand in the creation of the ascendant is also pretty simple: have the one who started that experimentation be an Ixtali Scholar or a number of them.
things evolve and get bigger when they get access to more oxygen so since skarner spent a long time on the surface he probably got ALOT bigger with time (since there's not alot of oxygen underground where brakern mostly spend their time)
Okay the last line went hard
I don't need sleep, I neeed to know
I think Xerath attacking Ixaocan would be a good story, his goal to absorb the worlds magic/burn away his chains.
Skarner is the only one we see cause he is basically the kid who goes out to play with bugs while the others stay inside and just chill
>Ixtal portion says that they partook in the first ascension
>Whereas Skarner's portion says he watched the ascended fight for land before Ixtal even joined them
My Headcanon is just that each portion of the lore is written in the way of the POV of each of the characters and/or civilizations
Ixtal people saying they helped with the first ascension except they never noticed the ascended people that Skarner did see (I mean considering the size of skarner he could see things way far than humans would)
again, just a headcanon
As for the last sentence "Even if he becomes the root of their destruction" my read is that he'll protect Ixtal at whatever cost, even if that leads to the city coming down by itself
Similarly to stories/series/movies where they show overprotection, where the one that is being overprotected starts to crumble in despair and desperation at the lack of freedom, like how you woudl go insane by staying in a single room and nothing more
if Skarner forces Ixtal people to remain, the civilization may go into insanity and/or cause the Ixtal people to hate him and come to an act of war
that the sentence is less of Skarner's POV into destroying the city, and more in a narrating POV where the city may come to hell if Skarner enforces people to stay.
I thought his story would be about how his clan got corrupted by void which is why he's the last one. Something like the first mage asked for the bracken to help and after losing hid Ixtal. Well if they are dead underground, Piltover going into Ixtal to harvest Bracken fossils.
My headcannon is that Skarner never left his broodmother. The entire continent of Shurima is on her back.
0:23 I mean... There still a few past lore left 😢
wouldn't suprise me if they got skarner cards soonish in Legends of Runeterra with this update and lore live now
The fact skarner is so huge he could probably be seen in the map makes him having a full race feel like a big miscalculation, either we've got hollow earth going on or they just didn't even realize that made skarner too big to be a normal race
Skarner splash show us that the city is build on his image, there are highlight in green on the city drawing to show that
I've been expecting you ;)
Ixtal reminds me of Wakanda
"Open up to the world and face the consequences/reap the benefits, or stay safe and hidden? better safe than sorry"
Skarner is probably just like the biggest rooster kind of deal.
Riot should hire Necrit as lorekeeper. So he can supervise the creation in the new lore and find where things don't match up, before they publish new lore
My head cannon is that skarner became so big in the influence of elemental power, in the centruies he spent with ixtal
Wow I miss getting multiple stories on universe 😢
Just like I am suprised RIOT doesnt run things past Vadriril to check for bugs before release. I am suprised RIOT does not run lore past Necrit to check for inconsistencies
they could still say that hextech was made from a brackern clan that is being farmed in secret or something
Maybe the underground of Runeterra is larger than the world itself. Like a magical bag of holding. If that were the case, Riot would never run out of potential areas for their MMO, even if they only stayed on Valoran and didn't explore other continents.
Its skarners all the way down
League of Legends' kaijus
There are more lands to be explore above surface. What more if there is a hollow earth
What if they change it so all the remnants of the brackern were affected by the void and turned into the Xersai or whatever reksai is, they did mention having a keen awareness of vibrations
So, Skarner adopted the humans.
Like humans keep ant farms - he keeps humans
maybe with evolution, like in our earth, all the brackern became small scorpions and only skarner is the ancient massive scorpion left
Finally a lore vid owo. (Also the feeling of exactly being the 1000th like)
I don't believe there's a lore plot hole with Ixtal and the Ascended.
My best guess is that Ixtal did help the Shuriman Empire create the first Ascended. The Ascended then conquered other parts of the Shurima continent, but didn't attack Ixtal itself. Instead, the Shuriman Empire invited Ixtal to form an alliance, which Ixtal accepted. ^_^
The explanation for Shurima X Ixtal relationship could be simple, members of the Ixtali people participate in the creation of the ascended before the whole nation joined the empire. But Skarner wouldn’t have known of that fact, so from his point of view they didn’t know of each other
I wonder if anyone worked out how large runeterra is. There are so many Gigantic creatures just roaming the world.
Hollow earth Runeterra? Hmm... Am I smelling an epic Kaiju update for ChoGath?
Oh my god, I just realized he is literally Thanos going "Fine. I'll do it myself" when it comes to keeping up the isolation. I love it! :D
Just played as him in ARAM. He's legit.
Same, definetely worthy rework
we can safely say Skarner's traumatized after seeing all the human deceit and greed and the void's destruction which made him uncapable of seeing an alternative to seclusion.
He's simply obsessed with his own idea of safety due to trauma, to him, if ixtal opens up, it's as good as destroyed so it would make no difference if he destroyed it first regardless, probably.
One thing I always tought about it was actually if Runeterra has some kind of secret subterranian society. I mean, there's already some at the sea...
So, Skarner is now a obsessive yandere who will happily just observe their target as long as they follow the rules
11:44 Yeah they didnt think this through…
They DESPERATELY wanted to get that “““““““Horror“““““““ element in there
Edit: This isnt Horror at all. This is some tagged on, wannabe - M. Night Shamalan - nonsense
Have you ever read Skarner's original story? It was pretty dark too. The idea of a giant MONSTER destroying its personal pet project out of anger from what they've done and paranoia fits perfectly. Not all champs are the good guys
@@DarkLordTalon i think the problem is that Riot said themselves that they wanted to keep skarner being a good alinged character. Which, they did... in a way that makes him look evil.
@@lv4715 And one of the first things the original Skarner did was murdering a ton of people by cutting them to bloody ribbons. He's never been a super good person.
@@leetriBUT they were from the same species that killed everyone of his species, and not only killed but are constantly torturing their souls to use as fuel for their toasters.
I would be pretty pissed as well
He's more like a Monster of Frankenstein kinda of thing, he's not bad just depressed
@@usarhabilidade2697 Except pretty much only the Ferros family knew that the crystals were alive, the miners just thought they had found a bunch of dead crystals. He immediately resorted to violence when he woke up and tore people to shreds, he didn't even know that others had been harvested before him.
Also, I shouldn't have to say this but immediately resorting to murdering people just because they're of the same species isn't a good thing that good people do.
He could've just burst out of the sand and scared people away, because people did start fleeing in terror when they saw that one of them were alive.
runetera is hollow now thats the biggest consipiracy ive heard in that case im borrwing some of garens arm pads in demacia turn it into a consipiracy hat
Maybe Skarner's unique, secluded way of life has led him to survive far longer than most, and brackern keep growing forever like lobsters. Like, they don't usually get _that_ large or live for that long.
This thing about energy flowing, sounds alot like ley-lines from gw2, and now thinking about, world runes sounds alot like bloodstones, but hey, I liked the new story from Skarner, really did.
Yeah I hate that they're making him an antagonist. The setup feels like a step in the right direction, but at the end of the day, he's still a monster to be opposed, not a savior of his people (even if he was a doomed one originally).
I feel like having the Void directly do something to the Brackern, and this leading him to those years of isolation -> the world is now changing and the Ixtal that he once knew is long gone -> he must learn to overcome the pain of the past (a send up to his old personality) and advise/lead Ixtal before it makes the same mistakes or worse. You still have a source of conflict, but he's still a fundamentally compassionate character who's not being presented as a problem Qiyana or Milio will have to "solve"
He was never anything but an antagonist. To everyone but his own people at least.
@@DarkLordTalon I disagree, his people are dead
And it's pretty reasonable to be pissed at a species that well...led everyone of your kind to extinction because they are too lazy to walk and needed something to power their remote controls
@@DarkLordTalon his real people are Brackern. not the humans. but now they changed it and made hime the Real Villain of the story. it was a stupid lore retcon. they retconned it to make their golden child Cammille not look bad. 😒😒🙄🙄
@@timexyemerald6290 jesus, you guys see a big monster with a morality put into test and think it's an antagonist cus' hes gonna do whatever the fuck to protect ixtal.
It's not a Antagonist. It's just a big monster who wants the best for this kingdom
@@milhas12 I don't think you know what an antagonist is
lore is a blank slate right now. Only thing we have confirmed so far is kayle/morgana/aatrox story, arcane story, ashe/tryndamere, kindred lore and smolder lore and now skarner. whole ixtal lore can be easily scrapped and that should be ok as long once they reveal new lore they stick to it and dont fuck it up
So Nila going to fight skarner next
So the Brackern are pretty much Badgermoles, having taught Ixtal Earthbending?
So riot, how big are the brackern now?
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