My experience with Hilti is that pretty much anything that breaks after the two year is up is not considered a manufacture defect thus voiding their so called 20 year warranty. I like some of Hilti's tools but I would rather have a tool I can order parts for and fix myself.
In Europe Hilti has only 2 year full waranty and after that just paid repairs. Festool has 3 years. Bosch and Makita have only 2 years for firms and 3 years if online registered for people not for firms, but the parts are easy available even for very old models. Not all models have afordable parts, like for instance some light duty-medium duty 14-18V Bosch brushed drill drivers have absurdly expensive parts like 4-9 X Makita and times two again when rebranded as Wurth...but some are afordable and also heavy duty. On the brushless models is the other wey around, altrough Bosch parts are also more expensive compared to non brushless, when we look to Makita we find crazy expensive parts even for 12Vmax brushless tools, so not worth the repair.
The 12v brushed version of the Metabo with a 2ah battery and regular detachable chuck and right angle head attachment is available at Acme tools for only $59. I ordered it and it also accepts the Festool non marring attachments
I luv 12v tools as well and they have only gotten more powerful over the years. I started out on the Rigid 12v line and I was really hurt to see Rigid discontinue that line. My drill/impact driver set is still running like a champ but I recently switched to Milwaukee’s M12 line and I hope I made a good choice. I believe I have so far. Great vid man…keep them coming!!
@@feelingtardy I’m seriously thinking about that one BUT for the power and run time I’m considering going with the Rigid 18v multi tool since I’m on that platform for my 18v tools!
I heard painters tape prevents tear out. Maybe if you put some on the back side of the 2x4 when you're doing the spade bits it will help with the shrapnel getting in the way
Hey Dave thanks for another verses video but can you do a vs video with the Milwaukee gen 3 hammer drill vs the new Ryobi HP hammer drill. I've serched through your videos and others on TH-cam and I can't find one.
@@ManCaverTools oh thanks very much. Your the best. I've been a subscriber for awhile and your channel is one of the top for sure when it comes to tool reviews info etc about tools. Can't wait for this video
U need to test some drills with a holesaw on metal. I'm an industrial electrician and we never holesaw thru wood it's always aluminum, stainless, or steel.
These are cabinet drills. They have no power. You try to drive lag screws with these, you'll break them. A real test with these would be how smooth they are, how clean of a hole they drill, how gently they drive small cabinet screws, how well the different attachments work, and get in hard to reach spaces, etc. No one's gonna buy these things for power. It's also not a great idea to wear gloves when operating a screwgun, even if you're working out in the snow
best comment ever about youtube tests, some are incredibly absurd comparisons, and each brand focuses on different functions for their different models, comparing them just for the voltage...hhmmf..each brand focuse on different aspects and applications for their models, even when they have the same voltage, this goes for heavy duty tools youtube tests and light voltage cordless
I’d be interested in how these compare with the Fein ASCM 12 Q. Can you get these in the USA? It’s brushless and has 4 speeds up to 2500 rpm. Mine’s been indestructible so far and seems as well made as my Hilti gear.
We have been able to get the 18v and 12v ASCM models for a long while. Rarely can we get bare tool (not at all afaik) and the additional chucks are as scarce as hens teeth. Most shops that carry Fein only carry multimaster tools and accessories and sometimes the dust collectors. Some shops carry their metalworking tools but in a limited fashion. I was surprised to find out that we supposedly can get most of the cordless lineup here. Alas, as mentioned before, only in kit form afaik.
@@dominusdominus2941 I had an ASCM 18 and while it had a bit more power power than the PDC 18, I recall I liked the Festool much better. Better electronic clutch, can stand up without falling over, and less runout with the centrotec bit holder vs the Fein chuck with the Wiha holder on it. Also, of course, couldn’t get the other chucks in the US at the time. Replaced both with the three speed Metabo for a while. Metabo had more power but not as nice as Festo or Fein.
My experience with Hilti is that pretty much anything that breaks after the two year is up is not considered a manufacture defect thus voiding their so called 20 year warranty. I like some of Hilti's tools but I would rather have a tool I can order parts for and fix myself.
In Europe Hilti has only 2 year full waranty and after that just paid repairs. Festool has 3 years. Bosch and Makita have only 2 years for firms and 3 years if online registered for people not for firms, but the parts are easy available even for very old models. Not all models have afordable parts, like for instance some light duty-medium duty 14-18V Bosch brushed drill drivers have absurdly expensive parts like 4-9 X Makita and times two again when rebranded as Wurth...but some are afordable and also heavy duty. On the brushless models is the other wey around, altrough Bosch parts are also more expensive compared to non brushless, when we look to Makita we find crazy expensive parts even for 12Vmax brushless tools, so not worth the repair.
The 12v brushed version of the Metabo with a 2ah battery and regular detachable chuck and right angle head attachment is available at Acme tools for only $59. I ordered it and it also accepts the Festool non marring attachments
It gets very underwhelming when the battery gets down to one bar. But other that that very great performance
I luv 12v tools as well and they have only gotten more powerful over the years. I started out on the Rigid 12v line and I was really hurt to see Rigid discontinue that line. My drill/impact driver set is still running like a champ but I recently switched to Milwaukee’s M12 line and I hope I made a good choice. I believe I have so far. Great vid man…keep them coming!!
check out the m12 fuel multi tool, lol, you will instantly justify your choice
@@feelingtardy I’m seriously thinking about that one BUT for the power and run time I’m considering going with the Rigid 18v multi tool since I’m on that platform for my 18v tools!
My favorite Hilti drill. Lightweight and versatile with add on accessories.
I heard painters tape prevents tear out. Maybe if you put some on the back side of the 2x4 when you're doing the spade bits it will help with the shrapnel getting in the way
Lol
that is true for downforce, but that won't prevent shredding form underneath
Evenly matched on every test!
Dewalt has DCD703 multihead, but not the 4Ah compact pack with 3 x 21700 cells.
Hey Dave thanks for another verses video but can you do a vs video with the Milwaukee gen 3 hammer drill vs the new Ryobi HP hammer drill. I've serched through your videos and others on TH-cam and I can't find one.
I can do that Weldon :)
@@ManCaverTools oh thanks very much. Your the best. I've been a subscriber for awhile and your channel is one of the top for sure when it comes to tool reviews info etc about tools. Can't wait for this video
Thank you for the video and I do agree with you about ryobi Bit
Loving the speed up editing. Keep on chugging along sir! You're doing a great service to all tool buyers everywhere.
I thank yo Anthony
U need to test some drills with a holesaw on metal. I'm an industrial electrician and we never holesaw thru wood it's always aluminum, stainless, or steel.
will you compare this Hilti to the m12 installation tool? I have the m12- and have quite a few things I don't like about it.
Nice one Dave! Loving the gloves 🤩
lol
These are cabinet drills. They have no power. You try to drive lag screws with these, you'll break them.
A real test with these would be how smooth they are, how clean of a hole they drill, how gently they drive small cabinet screws, how well the different attachments work, and get in hard to reach spaces, etc.
No one's gonna buy these things for power. It's also not a great idea to wear gloves when operating a screwgun, even if you're working out in the snow
they are useful in many ways including cabinets
best comment ever about youtube tests, some are incredibly absurd comparisons, and each brand focuses on different functions for their different models, comparing them just for the voltage...hhmmf..each brand focuse on different aspects and applications for their models, even when they have the same voltage, this goes for heavy duty tools youtube tests and light voltage cordless
I’d be interested in how these compare with the Fein ASCM 12 Q. Can you get these in the USA? It’s brushless and has 4 speeds up to 2500 rpm. Mine’s been indestructible so far and seems as well made as my Hilti gear.
Инструмент fein выше по класу. И даже круче festool. Имею fein ascm 18 qx - номер 1 в мире. Made in Germany.
We have been able to get the 18v and 12v ASCM models for a long while. Rarely can we get bare tool (not at all afaik) and the additional chucks are as scarce as hens teeth. Most shops that carry Fein only carry multimaster tools and accessories and sometimes the dust collectors. Some shops carry their metalworking tools but in a limited fashion. I was surprised to find out that we supposedly can get most of the cordless lineup here. Alas, as mentioned before, only in kit form afaik.
@@dominusdominus2941 I had an ASCM 18 and while it had a bit more power power than the PDC 18, I recall I liked the Festool much better. Better electronic clutch, can stand up without falling over, and less runout with the centrotec bit holder vs the Fein chuck with the Wiha holder on it. Also, of course, couldn’t get the other chucks in the US at the time. Replaced both with the three speed Metabo for a while. Metabo had more power but not as nice as Festo or Fein.
Thanks for this great video!
I wonder how they fair against the new Bosch version?
we will see
Great tools.
Good metabo
What kind of wood is it you screwed the lag screws into? Just wondering
this is an old video. I use 6x6 timber now
Did the metabo ever take on the m12?
Awesome ;)
I thank you Sir
Are their exchangeable chucks generic？
these are 12v tools. the main difference that people look for is Metal housing chucks or plastic housing chucks
*Good video 🤗*
should throw in the Dewalt 703
Yes would love to see dewalt 703, and the ones from milwaukee and bosch too!
that video will be coming soon
👍🏻🍻🍺🎄🎁
Thank you Konaman
I groß upwith, If there ist a wall, zhen you nerd a Hilti tobgo .
Hilti is best
No me convence sus pruebas. Unas comparaciónes pésimas