I'm a Milwaukee "red til' dead" guy, but I don't think the final test with that Milwaukee should have been counted, because it was outperformed by the Hilti before the bit was lubricated. Hilti beat out the Milwaukee by seven seconds with an unlubricated bit, I think if you tested the Hilti after lubricating the bit, the end results may have been different. Either way, awesome video, i always love it when Milwaukee is on top!
Completely agree. VCG guys are usually biased, so we know what to expect. Can't blame them, honestly, I'm sure Milwalkee pays lots of bills for those guys and everyone should earn a living. Anyway, in Europe, Hilti is way more available, but is still quite pricey. They are regarded as the Rolls Royce of power tools.
as someone living in italy i can tell you that MIlwaukee has been invading jobsites quite strongly during the past couple years, i've seen electricians, plumbers and construction workers consistently bringing to the jobsite hilti AND milwaukee, and some of those guys told me they're thinking about switching totally to Milwaukee. Hilti has met some disapproval after launching their new battery system which isn't retro compatible with all the other tools they had, and the prices are just out of this world, for the same price as a hilti high ah battery you can literally get a milwaukee m18 rotary hammer kit with batteries included. If the warranty works and the tools keep working then i don't see any reason why they shouldn't beat Hilti.
Hilti (I had a network one) after six months it works very very poorly when contacting the service they say that’s how it works.... devolt (also networked) you need to apply a lot of force to drill into the ceiling. I use Bosch 2-28 From Milwaukee I have a screwdriver, an impactor, an angle grinder, 12 volts. I CHANGED THE CHARGER TO 230 VOLTS. I’ll also buy a 12V cordless hammer drill and a jigsaw. (I translated Google from Ukraine)
"The milwaukee was the best performer". I mean, it only performed better once you added lube to it, and you only lubed the milwaukee. If you really wanted a fair comparison you would have lubed all of them, but you chose to only do the one that you went into the comparison wanting to win...
yeah but he does mention it being new before lubricating so I think the others had previously been lubed.. yes , yes I know more lubrication or less lubrication will make a difference however in these test there are way more variables than the lubrication. point to take is they are all pretty similar and in the end you will stay with the battery system you currently have plus between the Hilti and new Milwaukee is what like 1 or 2 seconds difference after the said lubrication? so if you have 60 or 120 holes to drill you will delay your work by 1 to 4 minutes on an 8+hrs shift. Vince is not the guy for accurate and repeatable tool reviews but he says what he thinks and often goes with gut feeling which in the ends it all comes down to. He likes Milwaukee, I like DeWalt... I know what to expect when watching his videos and still enjoy them. If you want more precise and repeatable tool reviews you should check out "project farm" if you don't already know this channel.
@@arnaultfaverjondufort6804 problem is you don't need to lubricate when sds rotary hammers come from the factory, so the lube was simply to get better results for the brand he shills. Doesn't matter if it was new or used for a while, he should have done all lubed or none lubed.
Good luck getting them fix if you have an issue coming from guys who do commercial high rise, they told me take forever to get their broken tools repair
It's implied that they all have been lubed. He remembered the Milwaukee was new, and said "we need to lube this because it's new". The only reason they included that at all in the video was because it makes for a more climactic conclusion.
I can't tell you guys how many times we have gotten the bosch bulldog really hot to where we had to use gloves to handle the drill none stop and it would piss out grease out the pee hole and it never quit it never slowed down then the next day the same routine it was insane it was so impressive
I’m an electrical mechanic and we drill large diameter holes nearly daily. Most of us use Bosch bulldogs, chorded ones. The older 20 y/o models of them are all still kickin strong and work better than the new stuff coming out today. Those Hilti “Machos” are what we use when we need to make holes larger than an inch as well, all chorded. I do use a chordless Bosch bulldog as my daily driver when I only need to make a few holes though and it’s been great, as well as affordable. $175 for the kit with case, batteries, and charger. Can’t beat that.
A contractor let me use his 7 years old bulldog today to go through concrete after my brand new Milwaukee didn't do the job. two days later I bought my own 8amp for $199.
I had a Bosch bulldog Corded*(chords are played on guitar), a corded Makita(both got stolen, years apart). I currently have the new m18 Milwaukee rotary hammer(without the dust extraction)... and it smokes them both. Faster, more powerful and you aren't tethered to the wall. I only run it on 12ah batteries, best power and all day run time. The newest Cordless tools are now officially more powerful than Corded, across the board...Miwaukee, Hilti, even Dewalt.
You definitely need to try the HILTI Hollow Drill Bit system. Absolute dream to work with. A dedicated vacuum system, certified HEPA with filter banger cycle, only around $1500 with the drill bits around $250 each. lol Pulling your bit out of a squeaky clean drill hole is really useful if the next thing you need to do is inject epoxy or something where you need it clean.
I have owned a 1-1/8" Bosch (newer none D handle style with vac which ran off of the drill battery so no need for a dedicated battery), the last-gen 1-1/8" Milwaukee & just bought the new Milwaukee 1-1/8" (bought both drill & vac attachment bare tool & saved a lot). The Bosch easily beats the last-gen Milwaukee but that new-gen Milwaukee edges out the Bosch. That said, the new Milwaukee is so much larger/bulkier & heavier than the Bosch while both coming in at the same price point. All in all, I still prefer my old Bosch overall but I am happy with the performance of my new Milwaukee.
$199(and most the time they have the free battery and charger deal going)5 year old drill, up against a $800 newly designed and developed drill and only about 20% faster(and who knows how much the batteries are)… it’s always great to have the fastest but, if your not making money on the job because your buying a red color… I love how reviews never show the value and how much you pay for that just a little bit more speed or how much all the batteries add to the price.
Depends in usage and users. Handyman or DIY - price might be important. Specialist team drilling most days most of the day installing resin anchors for big masts, cost much less relevant
@@cuebj agreed if you're making money with these tools then price takes 2nd place. What you consider the most is drilling speed, reliability, build quality and if it's battery powered how long does it drill with a single battery. Generally Bosch is well regarded in all these aspects, it's just an old tool and there are newer, more powerful tools in their lineup that still undercut the red ones. Btw, Made in Germany
Bosch definitely did not loose by a landslide , if you take itn consideration for greasing up the bit LoL , and maybe 10 seconds more per hole , not much difference , plus I bet Bosch would not likely have to be sent in for repair as much as some of those more expensive competitors. I've been extremely happy with my decades old corded bulldog that has made me money , All that being said , it's always a pleasure to watch the comparison videos 👌 I actually ust bought the cordless bulldog version , but have yet to try it.
@brianb1179 and the Bosch Bulldog used in this video is hitting with about half the impact energy that this brand new Milwaukee is hitting with. But the Bosch was just 4 seconds slower. Bosch does have a 1-1/4" model that has a similar dust collection system to that Milwaukee. That would probably run rings around that Milwaukee hammer.
I use the Hilti's hollow core drill bit with my Hilti drill which they do show at beginning of video. you don't need to have a bulky dust collector attachment on tool. also the dust collectors all have a maximum depth they will work to. 45 seconds into video
I had a plug in hilti from the mid nineties. Fastest rpm drill I’ve ever used, no clutch, you hit something, either the bit, your wrist, or your skull got broken
The new Milwaukee work skin base layer heated long sleeve has my attention, when you reviewed the hoodies and jackets it seemed loose fit outerwear wasn't ideal for application. So the base layer kit with the ultra compact batteries would be a welcome product review
It really doesn't matter who won you guys. All of them are great SDS hammer drills. They all did the task with flying colors. Loved this versus video Vince. Great Video.
I've got the Bosch bulldog, what you've missed out here is convenience, look at the shape of those big square bricks compared to the bulldog, when drilling in confined spaces the bulldog can add 8 inches onto your drill length AND it can hang off of your 'Gorilla hook' toolbelt attachment, also, look at the weight of these drills, the bulldog is light and manoeuvrable, it's the bulldog all the way for me !!!.
We have a lot of Milwaukee tools at work but we do have a Hilti hammer thats used everyday since i been doing pipeline work the last 5 years. It was already older when i got there. Our red stuff gets replaced every 1-2 years.
I can say that about my bosses old corded Bosch tools. And I have seen some issues with with the Milwaukee clutches. I think it's just the newer stuff in general. The old Milwaukee 1/2" drills and Sawzalls will last a lifetime.
I need to really understand this,are these rotary hammer drills meant only for concrete only or they can still be used for other materials like hard steel and metals.What does the SDS means,I need to understand these things to know which direction I need to go.Thanks.
Hilti all day. Any day. Every day. Hilti puts any rotary hammers to shame. Best of the best and it’s absolute World Leader in Concrete Nailers, chipping,rotary guns hands down. 🤙🤙🤙
So this was a pretty good video. But there are some opportunities like, why not throw up the pricing(because the Bosch would have won by a mile and this always seems to be a red show, sadly) secondly why does the vacuum guy hold the vacuum great for all but the Bosch(only one that there is tons of blow back stacked up, not saying it would change a ton but every other drill had great vacuuming) and last what everyone else is saying some more brands would have been good. This is such an odd choice of drills since you have some that have just hit the market and some that are about 5 years old. Not a very good apples to apples comparison unfortunately. Just would like to see better comparisons that are truly fair vs just making content for people to argue brand loyalty over.
@@BirdTrainingClub yeah I doubt it. He’s a busy guy, and I really do like his content. However for someone always catching other peoples demos for doing things wrongly, he could do his better is all I’m saying. His heart is in the right place on this stuff, and I like how he has a construction background so he for the most part gets it. However it’s always amazing to me how everyone thinks that the most powerful(who cares about the cost) is the best when it’s actually about value(unless your working for the state, or have a boss that’s a color fanatic) But I would also throw in there, why is he running such a big bit when 90% of people would be running an SDS Max bit in this situation.
I thought this way at first and I own myself a few Milwaukee tools. Couple years later I learned to just take what I find useful and have fun at the rest. What this video tells me is the 4 yr old Bosch wiped the floor with its contemporary Milwaukee counterpart. That's all you need to know. PS. I got the Bosch on sale bare tool for $119. Hard to beat by any other brand. Btw, it's German made and way better build quality than the Ryobi and DeWalt and corded Milwaukee I owned
Bro what do u think about the makita rotary hammer xrho4z or the xrh01z I am on the Milwaukee platform but i lately got a set of makita so I can consider makita now with already having the battery and the tools are cheap I do windows and doors installation so thinking to get one a these for faster drilling
Not sure if you have seen but hilti has vacuum bits. TE-CD (SDS) TE-YD (SDS-MAX) your guys did a great job, but it's a job that is not needed. Hilti bits, with a Hilti drill, will blow them all away. (Out of experience)
I feel like this test only gives a small glimpse on what tool or what brand stacks up to another Real tests need to be given to a work crew and used on continuous duty. Comfort, battery power, ease of use make a big deciding factor. Would have been nice to toss the flex SDS plus in the mix with the stacked lithium because it has batteries that deliver a faster discharge rate “C Rating” A real work crew is what is needed for rotary hammers.
I’ve used the Milwaukee and Hilti chipping hammers. Milwaukee wins on battery life and weight. They both have about the same power or at least I can’t really tell the difference. I use them at least 3 hours a day for chipping concrete in pools. I will say after accidentally dropping the Hilti into a pool filled with water I was able to pull it out and continue working with water spewing from it. It was crazy cool to see
I own several rotary hammers, HILTI TE-7C (corded with the DRS vacuum attachment, a TE-2 cordless, a corded Metabo , a 12 volt M12 nonFuel ,and a M18 non Fuel rotary hammer. I try to always stay within their capacity. The HILTIs are my favorite. Smooth and so well built. The other drills perform well. I like the Metabo 2nd. The M12 rotary hammer is super nice for small holes 1/4” and 5/16”. I’m obviously a drill nut. I like being prepared for any job and do NOT plan on buying any more drills. I’ve found if you use your drill within its range and lubricate the SDS BITS they perform well. Videos like this rock! We get to see a working comparison.
Bada Bing Bada Boom….. I’ve always wanted to say that in a comment 😎. I have the 1 inch Dewalt Dch133. Biggest holes I drill are 1/2 inch for rebar. Love that thing. Loved the video VCG. Way to go stress testing with the 1 inch bit Vince💪.
How much deviation could there be because of: using the same bit for all tests (instead of 4 new bits)? And using concrete armoured with round bars (and no lining up of the machines)? Maybe you can use concrete Armoured with steel plates? But I really enjoyed your video. Great indicator for DIY 🇩🇪👍🏻 For Pros the „user wear“ (vibration) would be great to know. Pros will decide depending on the service: if a brand replaces your machine on site in 1-2 hrs a couple of €$ more or less for buying don‘t matter…
Dewalt 274 and 284 are the flagship 18v models and the flexvolt 333 model but that’s a class of its own either way. Milwaukee and Hilti are slower than those 3 models
just like Bosch's GBH18V-34CN is their flagship SDS Plus at 1 1/4" and 4.3 ft-lbs / 5.8J, and there is also a 1 1/8" Bulldog released a few months ago, but they were conveniently left out and replaced by a 3-4 yr old 1" Bulldog
Great video, but I think the price comparison was best for the bosch. I think it would have been better to try their newer hammer drill “hit man” which would run around the same category as the rest. A little unfair and not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
I was going to say this. The 1" Bulldog has been out for a while and it's a workhorse for sure. It's got stellar Made in Germany quality, just second to the Hilti and it wiped the floor with the contemporary Milwaukee. I believe the 1 1/4 SDS Plus Hitman may be a bit too much, but perhaps the newest GBH18V-28 Bulldog would have fared at least on par with the DeWalt. It's also 1 1/8" like the rest of this group
Great video! I think all the drills you tested did a solid job. The concrete testing block is awesome. Great video angle when the drill bit breaks through. Can’t see that angle with the bucket of concrete. Well done 👍🏻
@@VCGConstruction Rigged competition because the force of the human error can be different and why only lube it on Milwaukee. I feel like this channel is the most bias channel that i watch because no jigs are used or no accurate measurements. Take out Human error by putting same amount of lube on all the bits and using a new one for every driver. do the test multiple times with a jig for consistent results and I'll believe that this is what I want to watch
I have used all makes and models for the last 20 years when it comes to dependability and the most hardship and performance levels for a rotary SDS drill Hilti is king
Really?. Repeat it 30 more times and you will be able to get rid of the guilt of having spent more for the same thing that a Bosch would give you, hahahaha
@@Marcelo-km4ko I have no guilt over anything you dirty little hamster, I never spent a cent on any drill the company I work for had the pleasure of buying all the drills for me, jokes on you pro for buying any in the first place. There's a sucker everywhere 🤣😂😂
Awesome videa, love the dedication drilling a hole for over an hour garnered my respect but also made me apreciate my Bosch SDS max corded concrete drill. Dont think i would use battery powered drills unless it was a side wall penetrarion. But nice to see where they have come!
Hello, I really like your videos, I have the same Bosch GBH 18 volt 26D bulldog, it seems to me an excellent machine, I bought it on December 31, 2021, it was my gift that year, but here in Chile they sell it in cardboard without a battery and without a charger, the battery and the charger I was only able to buy three weeks ago this year here in Chile the 8 amp battery is very expensive and I used it for electrical work, I thought it was extraordinary, now I need to buy a transport case and I wrote to him to Bosch from Chile to find out which case is useful for my equipment, I think that all these tools are expensive and in the case of Bosch I think they should sell it in a transport case, not in a cardboard box... Bosch has not answered anything ... I think that Bosch should sell his tools with a suitcase or a bag, I take advantage of your channel that I have been following for a long time to make this claim since all tool fans watch your channel.... cordial greetings from Santiago de Chile.....
They are all pretty good. Tools. Was "gifted" a Hilti because of the amount of fire blocking and foam supplies we buy. We have about a hundred installers. We are all fanboys. Hilti outlast the all. Bosch hammer drill fanboy stating facts.
On the Hilti the suction is through the drill bit, they have special drill bits that you connect via an attachment to your extractor. The Milwaukee was only the best performer because you lubricated the bit, you should have retried the Hilti with a lubricated bit
I missed the "not going through the rebar though" so had to backtrack. I'd have liked to see them hit the rebar dead on, but that may have more to do with the bit than the drill. Nice run down! 👍🏻
As someone who worked construction for most of my life the concrete hammer drills most contractors swear by is the Bosch and to a bit lesser degree the Hilti . The Hilti was tops but maybe it was a bit expensive but I felt was top quality and priced very high . I thinkl I might go with either one if I was the boss and not a common laborer LOL
If I drilled all day I would definitely upgrade to the Hilti. As it is, I'm committed to Milwaukee batteries, so really glad to see the 1-1/8" come in a tight second. I hope to be chiseling out a basement floor pretty soon, for a curbless shower. Had I not caught your video, I might have chinsed out on the smaller Milwaukee. You probably saved me a lot of backache. Thanks!
@@bladeoflucatiel The new Hilti Nuron platform actually offers better power output than a standard 120v outlet here in the US. But if you never work on a jobsite where outlets are a scarcity or you have to walk 1/4 mile to the closest outlet station, then the Nuron tools are a good option. The batteries also work on every single nuron tool, big or small. They have a battery powered 40lb jackhammer. Not sure they'd have created that if the batteries weren't up to task
Just use the sds max rotary hammers, I have a huge feeling in performance they make these sds plus ones, Childs play, I know they have an advantage in weight and size but yeah
it's always a balance between weight/size, application and torque/BPMs/RPMs . If it wasn't we would all be using high torque impact wrenches, SDS Max rotary hammers and +1000 in-lbs drills.
@@luisinhoens90 I mean right tool for the right job, I think many people think that too but using both these platforms and my experience with them drilling those sized bits are more suitable for the sds max
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Love how the Hilti is silently the winner.
I'm a Milwaukee "red til' dead" guy, but I don't think the final test with that Milwaukee should have been counted, because it was outperformed by the Hilti before the bit was lubricated. Hilti beat out the Milwaukee by seven seconds with an unlubricated bit, I think if you tested the Hilti after lubricating the bit, the end results may have been different. Either way, awesome video, i always love it when Milwaukee is on top!
Completely agree. VCG guys are usually biased, so we know what to expect. Can't blame them, honestly, I'm sure Milwalkee pays lots of bills for those guys and everyone should earn a living. Anyway, in Europe, Hilti is way more available, but is still quite pricey. They are regarded as the Rolls Royce of power tools.
as someone living in italy i can tell you that MIlwaukee has been invading jobsites quite strongly during the past couple years, i've seen electricians, plumbers and construction workers consistently bringing to the jobsite hilti AND milwaukee, and some of those guys told me they're thinking about switching totally to Milwaukee. Hilti has met some disapproval after launching their new battery system which isn't retro compatible with all the other tools they had, and the prices are just out of this world, for the same price as a hilti high ah battery you can literally get a milwaukee m18 rotary hammer kit with batteries included. If the warranty works and the tools keep working then i don't see any reason why they shouldn't beat Hilti.
Hilti (I had a network one) after six months it works very very poorly when contacting the service they say that’s how it works....
devolt (also networked) you need to apply a lot of force to drill into the ceiling.
I use Bosch 2-28
From Milwaukee I have a screwdriver, an impactor, an angle grinder, 12 volts. I CHANGED THE CHARGER TO 230 VOLTS. I’ll also buy a 12V cordless hammer drill and a jigsaw. (I translated Google from Ukraine)
Legendary Hilti has kept the high price but not the quality.
I’m “Red til dead “
Bit tail is lubricated to extend life of the chuck. It doesn't make drilling any faster.
"The milwaukee was the best performer".
I mean, it only performed better once you added lube to it, and you only lubed the milwaukee. If you really wanted a fair comparison you would have lubed all of them, but you chose to only do the one that you went into the comparison wanting to win...
Dilate
He's paid by Milwaukee. He has to cheat for it to win
yeah but he does mention it being new before lubricating so I think the others had previously been lubed.. yes , yes I know more lubrication or less lubrication will make a difference however in these test there are way more variables than the lubrication. point to take is they are all pretty similar and in the end you will stay with the battery system you currently have plus between the Hilti and new Milwaukee is what like 1 or 2 seconds difference after the said lubrication? so if you have 60 or 120 holes to drill you will delay your work by 1 to 4 minutes on an 8+hrs shift. Vince is not the guy for accurate and repeatable tool reviews but he says what he thinks and often goes with gut feeling which in the ends it all comes down to. He likes Milwaukee, I like DeWalt... I know what to expect when watching his videos and still enjoy them. If you want more precise and repeatable tool reviews you should check out "project farm" if you don't already know this channel.
@@arnaultfaverjondufort6804 problem is you don't need to lubricate when sds rotary hammers come from the factory, so the lube was simply to get better results for the brand he shills.
Doesn't matter if it was new or used for a while, he should have done all lubed or none lubed.
Why y’all so butt hurt. All these tools where seconds apart from each other. So, get what ever one suits your needs.
Hilti are another level. i still have one of the non-clutched TE17's. My father owned it from new (early 60's I think) and it still gets a lot of use
Hilti won barring the obvious bias towards Milwaukee. M18 is the better deal since it comes with a vacuum but Hilti has 20yr warranty
Good luck getting them fix if you have an issue
coming from guys who do commercial high rise, they told me take forever to get their broken tools repair
Yeah they don't always honor their warranties they will find the smallest flaw and call it Abuse.
This channel is always biased towards Milwaukee.
@@man0grc he gets paid for promoting Milwaukee, no doubt that Milwaukee is huge, pro loves using them.
It's implied that they all have been lubed. He remembered the Milwaukee was new, and said "we need to lube this because it's new". The only reason they included that at all in the video was because it makes for a more climactic conclusion.
I can't tell you guys how many times we have gotten the bosch bulldog really hot to where we had to use gloves to handle the drill none stop and it would piss out grease out the pee hole and it never quit it never slowed down then the next day the same routine it was insane it was so impressive
Agreed those bulldogs are insanely tough. They’ve been on every site I’ve worked.
Are you using a brand new unused bit for each test? If not it’s not a fair comparison.
Great video mate.
The only thing that i would’ve done different is to use a brand new drill bit on every test.
Or I would do a pilot hole first, then lubricate before each attempt. I just want to be fair and unbiased towards each tool.
I’m an electrical mechanic and we drill large diameter holes nearly daily. Most of us use Bosch bulldogs, chorded ones. The older 20 y/o models of them are all still kickin strong and work better than the new stuff coming out today. Those Hilti “Machos” are what we use when we need to make holes larger than an inch as well, all chorded. I do use a chordless Bosch bulldog as my daily driver when I only need to make a few holes though and it’s been great, as well as affordable. $175 for the kit with case, batteries, and charger. Can’t beat that.
What the fuck is a “chord”
A contractor let me use his 7 years old bulldog today to go through concrete after my brand new Milwaukee didn't do the job. two days later I bought my own 8amp for $199.
my bulldog died after a week of use, wtf
I had a Bosch bulldog Corded*(chords are played on guitar), a corded Makita(both got stolen, years apart). I currently have the new m18 Milwaukee rotary hammer(without the dust extraction)... and it smokes them both. Faster, more powerful and you aren't tethered to the wall. I only run it on 12ah batteries, best power and all day run time. The newest Cordless tools are now officially more powerful than Corded, across the board...Miwaukee, Hilti, even Dewalt.
@@YourTechHomeboy how's that 8 amp Bosch working - tried hammer only ? I just got the Bauer 8 ah rotary hammer that compares to Bosch for joules.
Why not use the new Bosch profactor? That’s a really old bulldog
You definitely need to try the HILTI Hollow Drill Bit system. Absolute dream to work with.
A dedicated vacuum system, certified HEPA with filter banger cycle, only around $1500 with the drill bits around $250 each. lol
Pulling your bit out of a squeaky clean drill hole is really useful if the next thing you need to do is inject epoxy or something where you need it clean.
Sponsored by Milwaukee, we will give this brand an unfair advantage by lubricating the drill bit.
You kept reusing the bit. How long are those bits going to last? Wouldn't that be a variable to be concerned with when testing?
I have owned a 1-1/8" Bosch (newer none D handle style with vac which ran off of the drill battery so no need for a dedicated battery), the last-gen 1-1/8" Milwaukee & just bought the new Milwaukee 1-1/8" (bought both drill & vac attachment bare tool & saved a lot). The Bosch easily beats the last-gen Milwaukee but that new-gen Milwaukee edges out the Bosch. That said, the new Milwaukee is so much larger/bulkier & heavier than the Bosch while both coming in at the same price point. All in all, I still prefer my old Bosch overall but I am happy with the performance of my new Milwaukee.
Oh . I've been waiting for this one . Awesome n thank you Vince
The Milwaukee/Hilti is 20% faster but 4 times the price of Bosch. I think for a lot of people Bosch is the better deal.
$199(and most the time they have the free battery and charger deal going)5 year old drill, up against a $800 newly designed and developed drill and only about 20% faster(and who knows how much the batteries are)… it’s always great to have the fastest but, if your not making money on the job because your buying a red color… I love how reviews never show the value and how much you pay for that just a little bit more speed or how much all the batteries add to the price.
Depends in usage and users. Handyman or DIY - price might be important. Specialist team drilling most days most of the day installing resin anchors for big masts, cost much less relevant
@@cuebj agreed if you're making money with these tools then price takes 2nd place.
What you consider the most is drilling speed, reliability, build quality and if it's battery powered how long does it drill with a single battery.
Generally Bosch is well regarded in all these aspects, it's just an old tool and there are newer, more powerful tools in their lineup that still undercut the red ones. Btw, Made in Germany
Bosch definitely did not loose by a landslide , if you take itn consideration for greasing up the bit LoL , and maybe 10 seconds more per hole , not much difference , plus I bet Bosch would not likely have to be sent in for repair as much as some of those more expensive competitors.
I've been extremely happy with my decades old corded bulldog that has made me money ,
All that being said , it's always a pleasure to watch the comparison videos 👌
I actually ust bought the cordless bulldog version , but have yet to try it.
@brianb1179 and the Bosch Bulldog used in this video is hitting with about half the impact energy that this brand new Milwaukee is hitting with. But the Bosch was just 4 seconds slower. Bosch does have a 1-1/4" model that has a similar dust collection system to that Milwaukee. That would probably run rings around that Milwaukee hammer.
Most of my tools are Milwaukee, love it but when it comes to Rotary drills, Hilti is the best tool by far
Saving up for my sds max 😊
I use the Hilti's hollow core drill bit with my Hilti drill which they do show at beginning of video. you don't need to have a bulky dust collector attachment on tool. also the dust collectors all have a maximum depth they will work to. 45 seconds into video
Why did you use that old DeWALT when there is a new XR and a 60 volt one too
It felt smoother after lubrication.... Tell us something we don't know about insertion.
I had a plug in hilti from the mid nineties. Fastest rpm drill I’ve ever used, no clutch, you hit something, either the bit, your wrist, or your skull got broken
Why didn't you incorporate in the run-up,makita and metabo hpt 18V as well?
Better yet the Multivolt
The new Milwaukee work skin base layer heated long sleeve has my attention, when you reviewed the hoodies and jackets it seemed loose fit outerwear wasn't ideal for application. So the base layer kit with the ultra compact batteries would be a welcome product review
Would have been better to use a brand new drill bit with each drill no?
All these tools seem pretty great.
Hey VCG, love the video
When do you think brands will be releasing wide crown staplers? 7/16 inch wide ones
why u only lubricate the miwalkie
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Thanks Vince ! Been waiting for a new one on this! I have not seen you do one of these since the previous even fuel and DeWalt !
Glad you enjoyed the video Don!
It really doesn't matter who won you guys. All of them are great SDS hammer drills. They all did the task with flying colors. Loved this versus video Vince. Great Video.
But Hilti is the best they draws etc
I've got the Bosch bulldog, what you've missed out here is convenience, look at the shape of those big square bricks compared to the bulldog, when drilling in confined spaces the bulldog can add 8 inches onto your drill length AND it can hang off of your 'Gorilla hook' toolbelt attachment, also, look at the weight of these drills, the bulldog is light and manoeuvrable, it's the bulldog all the way for me !!!.
Ummmm it's not the smallest one
@Ryan Deveau I'm talking about the length from the chuck to the finger guard, it gives extra manoeuvrability in tight spaces.
I've only used the Bulldog but I like that format if it mean less hunching over.
@nathanmortenson914 yes it does 👍
We have a lot of Milwaukee tools at work but we do have a Hilti hammer thats used everyday since i been doing pipeline work the last 5 years. It was already older when i got there. Our red stuff gets replaced every 1-2 years.
I can say that about my bosses old corded Bosch tools. And I have seen some issues with with the Milwaukee clutches. I think it's just the newer stuff in general. The old Milwaukee 1/2" drills and Sawzalls will last a lifetime.
I need to really understand this,are these rotary hammer drills meant only for concrete only or they can still be used for other materials like hard steel and metals.What does the SDS means,I need to understand these things to know which direction I need to go.Thanks.
Having warranty doesn't mean you won't pay anything!.. Send my hilti rt hammer for repair here in uk the cost was 60% of a new one
60% better than 100% of a new 1 if they didn’t cover 100% there was abuse probably
Hilti all day. Any day. Every day. Hilti puts any rotary hammers to shame. Best of the best and it’s absolute World Leader in Concrete Nailers, chipping,rotary guns hands down. 🤙🤙🤙
My son's got to work under mobile home limited space drilling slab for hold downs?
I use the bosh bulldog and sds for heavy concrete work they last well
So this was a pretty good video. But there are some opportunities like, why not throw up the pricing(because the Bosch would have won by a mile and this always seems to be a red show, sadly) secondly why does the vacuum guy hold the vacuum great for all but the Bosch(only one that there is tons of blow back stacked up, not saying it would change a ton but every other drill had great vacuuming) and last what everyone else is saying some more brands would have been good. This is such an odd choice of drills since you have some that have just hit the market and some that are about 5 years old. Not a very good apples to apples comparison unfortunately. Just would like to see better comparisons that are truly fair vs just making content for people to argue brand loyalty over.
Would love to see this guy actually reply to your criticism.
@@BirdTrainingClub yeah I doubt it. He’s a busy guy, and I really do like his content. However for someone always catching other peoples demos for doing things wrongly, he could do his better is all I’m saying. His heart is in the right place on this stuff, and I like how he has a construction background so he for the most part gets it. However it’s always amazing to me how everyone thinks that the most powerful(who cares about the cost) is the best when it’s actually about value(unless your working for the state, or have a boss that’s a color fanatic) But I would also throw in there, why is he running such a big bit when 90% of people would be running an SDS Max bit in this situation.
I thought this way at first and I own myself a few Milwaukee tools.
Couple years later I learned to just take what I find useful and have fun at the rest.
What this video tells me is the 4 yr old Bosch wiped the floor with its contemporary Milwaukee counterpart. That's all you need to know.
PS. I got the Bosch on sale bare tool for $119. Hard to beat by any other brand. Btw, it's German made and way better build quality than the Ryobi and DeWalt and corded Milwaukee I owned
Bro what do u think about the makita rotary hammer xrho4z or the xrh01z I am on the Milwaukee platform but i lately got a set of makita so I can consider makita now with already having the battery and the tools are cheap I do windows and doors installation so thinking to get one a these for faster drilling
Im always courius in those hammer tests why they do not use a grease for sds socket?
Not sure if you have seen but hilti has vacuum bits. TE-CD (SDS) TE-YD (SDS-MAX) your guys did a great job, but it's a job that is not needed. Hilti bits, with a Hilti drill, will blow them all away. (Out of experience)
I love how we didn’t compare apples to apple on this specific episode
I like my 1" SDS HAMMERVAC setup. I should get out my old corded Hilti and see how they compare.
Do it and let us know the results Mike!
I feel like this test only gives a small glimpse on what tool or what brand stacks up to another
Real tests need to be given to a work crew and used on continuous duty.
Comfort, battery power, ease of use make a big deciding factor.
Would have been nice to toss the flex SDS plus in the mix with the stacked lithium because it has batteries that deliver a faster discharge rate “C Rating”
A real work crew is what is needed for rotary hammers.
I’ve used the Milwaukee and Hilti chipping hammers. Milwaukee wins on battery life and weight. They both have about the same power or at least I can’t really tell the difference. I use them at least 3 hours a day for chipping concrete in pools. I will say after accidentally dropping the Hilti into a pool filled with water I was able to pull it out and continue working with water spewing from it. It was crazy cool to see
I own several rotary hammers, HILTI TE-7C (corded with the DRS vacuum attachment, a TE-2 cordless, a corded Metabo , a 12 volt M12 nonFuel ,and a M18 non Fuel rotary hammer.
I try to always stay within their capacity. The HILTIs are my favorite. Smooth and so well built. The other drills perform well. I like the Metabo 2nd. The M12 rotary hammer is super nice for small holes 1/4” and 5/16”. I’m obviously a drill nut. I like being prepared for any job and do NOT plan on buying any more drills. I’ve found if you use your drill within its range and lubricate the SDS BITS they perform well. Videos like this rock! We get to see a working comparison.
Bada Bing Bada Boom….. I’ve always wanted to say that in a comment 😎. I have the 1 inch Dewalt Dch133. Biggest holes I drill are 1/2 inch for rebar. Love that thing. Loved the video VCG. Way to go stress testing with the 1 inch bit Vince💪.
Thanks INT, glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate the input!
If you regularly drill 1" holes, you need an SDS-Max drill.
How much deviation could there be because of: using the same bit for all tests (instead of 4 new bits)? And using concrete armoured with round bars (and no lining up of the machines)? Maybe you can use concrete Armoured with steel plates?
But I really enjoyed your video. Great indicator for DIY 🇩🇪👍🏻 For Pros the „user wear“ (vibration) would be great to know. Pros will decide depending on the service: if a brand replaces your machine on site in 1-2 hrs a couple of €$ more or less for buying don‘t matter…
Would you say brick is harder than the concrete that your drilling through?
Hi I want make a choice to bosch GBH 3-28 vs milwaukee plh 32 you what choice make ?
Where's the Flex 1" rotary hammer?
Can you please test out the new Milwaukee 1-1/4 SDS Plus bulldog rotary hammer?
Do these work with hole saws too?
Awesome video!
Thanks for the review!
Awesome video ,when see SDS Max rotary battle
What is up my brother Vince? I pray that you are doing great my brother. I love your TH-cam Channel. Awesome reviews as always. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸
Thanks Slick!
Your Awesome!!! Thank you so much brother Big Vince. 🇺🇸😎🇺🇸
Dewalt 274 and 284 are the flagship 18v models and the flexvolt 333 model but that’s a class of its own either way. Milwaukee and Hilti are slower than those 3 models
The flagship 18v model is the dch293, not the 2 models you mentioned. The flagship 54v sds plus model is the dch416/417
just like Bosch's GBH18V-34CN is their flagship SDS Plus at 1 1/4" and 4.3 ft-lbs / 5.8J, and there is also a 1 1/8" Bulldog released a few months ago, but they were conveniently left out and replaced by a 3-4 yr old 1" Bulldog
Great video, but I think the price comparison was best for the bosch. I think it would have been better to try their newer hammer drill “hit man” which would run around the same category as the rest. A little unfair and not necessarily an apples to apples comparison.
I was going to say this. The 1" Bulldog has been out for a while and it's a workhorse for sure. It's got stellar Made in Germany quality, just second to the Hilti and it wiped the floor with the contemporary Milwaukee.
I believe the 1 1/4 SDS Plus Hitman may be a bit too much, but perhaps the newest GBH18V-28 Bulldog would have fared at least on par with the DeWalt. It's also 1 1/8" like the rest of this group
Price difference cordless vs corded?
That's a trip . I'm really liking the Hilti
The hilti has the 3 x stack 21700 battery compared to the 2 x stacked 6ah battery on the milwaukee. Probably would make a few seconds difference.
just ordered today my Milwaukee 2912-20, can't wait 🤘
Great video! I think all the drills you tested did a solid job. The concrete testing block is awesome. Great video angle when the drill bit breaks through. Can’t see that angle with the bucket of concrete. Well done 👍🏻
Thanks ZZ, always trying to deliver better quality content! Glad you enjoy it!
@@VCGConstruction Rigged competition because the force of the human error can be different and why only lube it on Milwaukee. I feel like this channel is the most bias channel that i watch because no jigs are used or no accurate measurements. Take out Human error by putting same amount of lube on all the bits and using a new one for every driver. do the test multiple times with a jig for consistent results and I'll believe that this is what I want to watch
I’m curios about the prices
been eyeing that 1 1/8” for a bit now thanks for comparing to competition i know which one im ordering from OPT
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Hmmm if your going to throw in that pile the newest hilti then wheres dewalt 60v???
There are many tools that could've been upgraded. Bosch also has newer tools but they chose a 4 yr old tool. At least that DeWalt is newish
Bauer has one too.
Use a Hilti TE-CX (SDS +) drill bit with the Hilti rotary hammer and you’ll see even better performance. Hilti’s rotary drill bits are stellar.
I have used all makes and models for the last 20 years when it comes to dependability and the most hardship and performance levels for a rotary SDS drill Hilti is king
Really?. Repeat it 30 more times and you will be able to get rid of the guilt of having spent more for the same thing that a Bosch would give you, hahahaha
@@Marcelo-km4ko I have no guilt over anything you dirty little hamster, I never spent a cent on any drill the company I work for had the pleasure of buying all the drills for me, jokes on you pro for buying any in the first place. There's a sucker everywhere 🤣😂😂
I just bought them Milwaukee dust extractor kit in Canada that’s $1100 not $800 and I absolutely love it
I want to ask can anyone suggest an impact rated 1/2 to 3/8 socket adapter. This will be used by a batter impact wrench not air.
Love the music. Killer video
What about FLEX rotatory hammer
I have the TE 60-22 Nuron and it's an absolute BEAST.
#Beast
After using hilti over and over you can see the quality a durability. Milwaukee is good just for the first few uses. My opinion
Awesome videa, love the dedication drilling a hole for over an hour garnered my respect but also made me apreciate my Bosch SDS max corded concrete drill. Dont think i would use battery powered drills unless it was a side wall penetrarion. But nice to see where they have come!
would love to see one with the new 40v rotoray hammer from makita the HR009
I wish youd compare corded to cordless for a show...
Big like I'm waiting for this long time
Man if I’m drilling that large of a diameter I’m not gonna abuse a regular sds like that im gonna try to get an sds max
I put my money on Bosch Bulldog. Thanks
Only one of mine still working is the Bauer. Hilton crapped, Bosch crapped, DeWalt crapped.
what's the point of comparing a 300 $ drill with an 800 $ one? you should have compared drills from the same price range
I heard you threw a fit at Milwaukee because they didn’t have cheesesteaks for lunch.🤣
Hello, I really like your videos, I have the same Bosch GBH 18 volt 26D bulldog, it seems to me an excellent machine, I bought it on December 31, 2021, it was my gift that year, but here in Chile they sell it in cardboard without a battery and without a charger, the battery and the charger I was only able to buy three weeks ago this year here in Chile the 8 amp battery is very expensive and I used it for electrical work, I thought it was extraordinary, now I need to buy a transport case and I wrote to him to Bosch from Chile to find out which case is useful for my equipment, I think that all these tools are expensive and in the case of Bosch I think they should sell it in a transport case, not in a cardboard box... Bosch has not answered anything ... I think that Bosch should sell his tools with a suitcase or a bag, I take advantage of your channel that I have been following for a long time to make this claim since all tool fans watch your channel.... cordial greetings from Santiago de Chile.....
They are all pretty good. Tools. Was "gifted" a Hilti because of the amount of fire blocking and foam supplies we buy. We have about a hundred installers. We are all fanboys. Hilti outlast the all. Bosch hammer drill fanboy stating facts.
Merhaba milwaukee fhx ile hilti t6 nuron kiyaslarmisiniz
On the Hilti the suction is through the drill bit, they have special drill bits that you connect via an attachment to your extractor. The Milwaukee was only the best performer because you lubricated the bit, you should have retried the Hilti with a lubricated bit
I missed the "not going through the rebar though" so had to backtrack. I'd have liked to see them hit the rebar dead on, but that may have more to do with the bit than the drill. Nice run down! 👍🏻
You used the same bit on all instead of a brand new one on each one ?😅
try and use the bosch 36 volt "bulldog" instead of the 18 volt
As someone who worked construction for most of my life the concrete hammer drills most contractors swear by is the Bosch and to a bit lesser degree the Hilti . The Hilti was tops but maybe it was a bit expensive but I felt was top quality and priced very high . I thinkl I might go with either one if I was the boss and not a common laborer LOL
Hilti has the hollow drill bit for drilling application that makes drilling even faster and cleaner
Lube the hilti. Otherwise good video. Thanks 👍
I just love the classic look of the bulldog :)
Hilti and DeWalt 💪
If I drilled all day I would definitely upgrade to the Hilti. As it is, I'm committed to Milwaukee batteries, so really glad to see the 1-1/8" come in a tight second. I hope to be chiseling out a basement floor pretty soon, for a curbless shower. Had I not caught your video, I might have chinsed out on the smaller Milwaukee. You probably saved me a lot of backache. Thanks!
If you drilled all day you would buy a corded tool. Even a cheap no name rotary hammer has more power than any of those cordless tools.
@@bladeoflucatiel Sometimes corded is better, sometimes cordless is better.
@@bladeoflucatiel The new Hilti Nuron platform actually offers better power output than a standard 120v outlet here in the US. But if you never work on a jobsite where outlets are a scarcity or you have to walk 1/4 mile to the closest outlet station, then the Nuron tools are a good option. The batteries also work on every single nuron tool, big or small. They have a battery powered 40lb jackhammer. Not sure they'd have created that if the batteries weren't up to task
Try the Hilti with a lubed up bit…
Just use the sds max rotary hammers, I have a huge feeling in performance they make these sds plus ones, Childs play, I know they have an advantage in weight and size but yeah
it's always a balance between weight/size, application and torque/BPMs/RPMs .
If it wasn't we would all be using high torque impact wrenches, SDS Max rotary hammers and +1000 in-lbs drills.
@@luisinhoens90 I mean right tool for the right job, I think many people think that too but using both these platforms and my experience with them drilling those sized bits are more suitable for the sds max