VERY CONTROVERSIAL... All-New 2023 BMW X1 Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ย. 2022
- The ALL-NEW 2023 BMW X1 brings with it some pretty major controversy...
You see, this is the first BMW to come with its new subscription services - pay to unlock the heated seats and steering wheel! But that really overshadows what is otherwise incredible; the all-new X1 has best in class dynamics, tech, comfort and safety. So should you buy the all-new 2023 BMW X1? Let's talk about that!
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Good review. You don’t need to dye your hair.
Hi not sure if you’ll see this joe hut wanted your view on the comfort mode with regard the suspension was it comfortable !? Thanks
Can you guys go into the Msport vs the Xline details a bit more? You said you would but you didn't! :)
Great review. I'm quite torn. Its not the right comparison but your thoughts on this new X1 vs the old X2 (yes its dated) but I kinda think the X1 is more the school pickup mum while the X2 is for the weekend dad?
Mind showcasing the ambient lighting if you happen to review the S18i
Please do the review of the 18iS three cylinder version Matt.
what is he ground clearance both for electric and non electric versions?
The lifetime cost looks like what you’d pay for the feature anyway. This is not the first BMW with subscriptions. BMW used to charge subscription fees for Apple CarPlay until the furore made them backtrack. I think you’ll find the same with this plan.
As others have said, it’s easy to unlock these things with vehicle coding so this may end up being an own goal.
You shouldn't have to continue to pay the car company for the entire life of the car. That's complete b.s.
You guys have the best intros here, I clicked that subscribe button and bell icon because of that😂💯
Great review as always! I hope you can review the 2023 M240i, that has iDrive 8 as well. Please do it before the new M2 arrives!
BMW needs to be punished in whatever commercial ways available for this absolute shitshow of subscription. If you buy into it you're 100% the problem.
you don't have to pay per month for a feature-you ca buy it outright. And the ability to turn on features aftermarket is potentially good for anyone buying used models because you aren't so constrained by what the previous owner opted for. which, given how stingy BMW were for things in the last (oh, you want front ultrasonics for parking as well as rear ones? that'll cost) can be an improvement.
There are lots of software unlocks for the subscriptions you can just pay and unlock via USB for like $50.....
I looked at one of these last week, it was great! There is NO way I’d buy one while BMW is trying to screw people with subscriptions.
You can activate the subscription features one time, like you would the same way as before, ticking the option during purchasing. Meaning not paying monthly. Subscription is an option for shorter ownership at least for the moment.
In Australia i never used heating seats anyway
Awesome review guys! The car is stunning!
Can’t wait to see the iX1!
On a side note, you have spelt ‘subscribe’ wrong! 😂
Uh does anyone know why the australian version of xdrive makes lesser power and torque than the usa and canada version. here in canada it makes 295 lb/ft of torque. And yeah we do not have the sdrive at all since it is only 2 wheel drive.
This car is fantastic. We've had ours for three days now and it is an absolute blast to drive, had new michelin cross country 2 tires put on and it's performance in the snow is amazing.
How much was on road price
Is the (not sliding) reclining backseat , a standard for all models ?
In the uk reclining is standard, sliding was an extra £300 or thereabouts
Are you going to make a video showcasing the Sanremo green X1?
I have just taken delivery in the UK. Overall pleased except that at four days old it's booked in to have the heated seats fixed. For some reason the factory did not activate the heating function. My dealer asked me to subscribe and pay £350 (which they said they would refund). Unfortunately the seats failed to activate.
It would be helpful to actually test out the safety features like rear cross traffic alert, forward collision braking, and so on. Being the owner of both an X1 and a Venza, have to say warnings are much better done in the Toyota.
The one thing I have noticed on the RHD versions is they have not flipped the center console around, meaning that it opens away from the driver. Have you noticed this annoyance? This seems like a cheap oversight by BMW.
been the same for a long time. i don't mind the gear lever/other buttons being out of order....the fact that the compartment lid opens the wrong way does irritate me. it's also why for a lot of manufacturers there's not always enough space for your left leg -it's the passenger who gets all the leg room instead.
@@SteveLoughran It's because the original car has been designed for (EC) left handside driving !
Stunning - thank you for the detailed video:-)
I own a 2020 BMW X2 M35i bought brand new. Was also looking at Audi Q3 Sportsback, Mercedes 250 SUV. If I had to pay a subscription I wouldn’t have bought the BMW. Moving forward, if this is where they’re heading then this will be the last of three BMW owned by me.
Why did you choose the X2 M35 over the X1? And how do you compare the M35 design to the Tonale?
Bought s18i for 60k aud with enhancements package. Before road cost.
It’s really annoying how manufacturers offer different warranties in different countries. 3 years in the U.K.
Curious to know if anyone could weigh in here. I have owned a 2021 330i which is about 5.5 seconds and nice and zippy. I have owned an a250 4 matic 2019 again 6.0 seconds both I loved. I got rid of them both even though I did love them, I just prefer suv over sedan or hatch. I currently have a glc300 4 matic and it’s nice and quick again 190kw and and 6.0. I want to get another smaller suv. Acceleration is important to me but so is technology and comfort and I can’t decide if I get as a second car the x1 20 with its 7.3 0-100 and might be disappointed but the cabin is very nice or if I get the T ROC R with the slightly less fancy looks but a 4.9 second 0-100 and still a nice European design. Any thoughts
I have this exact specification and doing a few runs, it’s closer to 7-7.1 seconds. The car rides beautifully, has lots of space and the tech is incredible.
The VW may have the extra power, but it’s not as special as the BMW.
@@THEAC83 thank you for this! My sister has the Tiguan 162 r line and it’s a lovely car. I find the suspension on the bmw medium for comfort. Mercedes simply hard and awful on both the a250 and the glc and the VW very smooth in comparison. I had an Audi too with smooth suspension too. So I’m torn. I think I will have to try them both but I think the bmw refinement as you said is really nice and I think will sway me! My 330i was in the same blue and it’s such a nice colour. The bmw engines when the turbo comes on also have a deeper sound than the Mercedes. I am a total lover of European cars. My only bug bear with my bmw was the wireless car play would cut out everytime I went into a shopping centre or underground car park and it lost cellular connection which I thought was strange. Why would it need that to stay connected via Bluetooth and wifi? I did not like the infotainment system compared to the Mercedes MBUX with the touch screen and touch pad, still my favourite 😍 However now it has this new one I think I may be swayed to get the bmw over the t roc. My bmw was like a year and a half old had I still owned it so it did have the system still in the current 3 series and most of the line up, the one just before this one with the double screen arrangement. I just never could find things in it quickly so I disliked it. Otherwise I found the bmw so efficient and sporty.
Thank you for your input. I want everyone’s input so I can get different views.
I currently own a 2020 BMW X1 but I am NOT going to upgrade to the new one.
I may go for Mercedes-Benz GLC or jump to an electric BEV.
I absolutely hate subscription services. Especially on cars
I think you'll find Mercedes are going down that route too...
colour?
absolutely ridiculous to have subscription fees, it will simply not work with consumers. Ppl will just pay the lifetime cost ... unless someone wants to add 15 options and have the car only for 1 year which will save them on the total cost... but still. ridiculous! Also what will likely happen if car manufacturers go down this path, hackers will find a way to unlock all the features.
You mean like they did for Windows and Office back in the day? Hackers find ways then the manufacturers update to patch those. This shit is a never ending battle now considering over the air updates for most vehicles now.
@@TheXennner I know ppl did the unlock extra feature in other countries, 3 or 4 years ago already, not sure about this new version yet, but eventually it will be decode
Just ordered the X1 for my Mum - and will pay for the subscriptions for life up-front. Totally agree, a MAJOR upgrade to the previous model and a pretty spiffy vehicle. Great review :)
On my 2021 45e, i have wiresless Android auto and use my android phone as a digital key
Ordered one yesterday and do NOT need to subscribe for anything…..but won’t get the car until August…..
Mine arrives in two weeks. Hopefully won’t get stuck in quarantine for ages.
TOYOTA have announced that a lot of new features on the updated Corolla - with $3000 increase in price. But the new features are only for 12 months - after that, a V-E-R-Y expensive monthly payment to keep them.
I cancelled my order.
What new features are only for 12 months? Do you mean the Toyota Connected Services / access to Toyota connect app?
@@tinanguyen4026 Yes, that's what they're calling it - $150/yr after first 12 months. Includes Navigation!!!
Ordered the 30e xdrive
5 Year 75000 Miles, whichever comes first?
That would be a great warranty for BMW!
Just bought a new X1. It’s fantastic. There are a few subscriptions if you want them, but you aren’t forced to buy them and you can buy the ‘subscription’ outright for one payment if you want it.
Is this model bigger than the older X1’s?
Yes, nearly the same size as the current X3!
@@duncangrant4580 okay awesome! It looked that way from the video but wasn’t sure
@@amyescalante8783 Length is 4,50 m.
This subscription caper that BMW is pushing…Purchasing
the lifetime subscription,for say,heated steering wheel,is
like ticking it off as an option.Yes?
Correct!
How about the transmission of the new BMW X1? I heard a lot of negative comments regarding X1 transmission. It is not 8 AT.
I’ll pick you up in mine when it arrives and you can test it out
@@THEAC83 thank you. When it will be arrived yours?
@@sallytan2436 it arrived on the 1st of April but it is still stuck in the port in Melbourne. The wait is killing me!
@@THEAC83 I see. It happens just be patient
Subscription service for a car is just ridiculous, but does the lifetime package mean it's a one off fee?
Yes!
@@CarSauce I guess that makes it a little better, so long as they don't decide to turn it off or something
I wonder if lifetime hot bum sub is transferable to another B-mer? 🤔
Haha I don’t think so!
[Insert Luke skywalker no gif]
Btw, dig the police body cam setup; might try it when haggling with the B-mer sales rep
Nice car but is so annoying that these premium German Manufacturers how they safe money on small items where cars almost half the price come with them as standard. Big annoyance is that the cubby was designed for left hand drives surely they could off changed that for RHD
$50k for a 3 cylinder... It started promising until that bomb shell.
It's only 50 grand if you literally soec it with everything. It's the M Sport model fully loaded.
@@johnsambo9379 still a 3cyl….. you can buy a mk5 gti or even a older x3 for less than a third for a nice one still be quicker, have NO subscription bullshit and have more tuneable potential
I don't see a subscription cost for US buyers.
I think subscription services are a big insult and they should be embarrassed to put that on customers. It's a turn off not about the money but the principle of it. I like the car but the review is even better.
No physical controls for the air conditioning! That’s a deal breaker for me. Physical knobs and buttons are so much easier to adjust while driving.
you don't need them... i have the new X1 and you can just speak to the personal assistant in the car and tell her what you want... this applies to almost every adjustable feature in the car...say "Hello BMW" and go...
I agree the voice control system is very intuitive and robust. The dial controller is now outdated
I used to work for bmw, honestly a lot of wasted materials. Think about the whole world over with heated elements fitted to a car, only to charge the end user to activate/ use. So what if end user does not pay? Also in the dealership any unsold stock, eg door trims to novelty shirts if unsold, bmw can buy the stock back so the dealer does not have to be out of pocket, catch is when buying back it is actually destroyed and thrown in a skip. Say rather than discounting or even giving parts/ accessories away to customers bmw would rather spend more to “buy back” however is actually destroying goods. System needs an overhaul.
That happens a lot in other industries too, such as fashion houses destroying unsold branded clothes and supermarkets throwing away food nearing end of life. It's utterly ridiculous and obscene.
Yep my KTM motorcycle also has paid to unlock features on it. It's so dumb.
No way!? What sort of stuff?
@@jhref Tech Pack which contains
up/down quick shift,blipper. MSR and adaptive brake light.
Track Pack: which unlocks less intrusive riding modes. Wheelies control, launch control etc.
Suspension Pro: For extra Suspension modes on the semi active dampers. Anti dive,auto pre load etc.
That's not including other accessories like heated grips which by the way it's all already installed on the bike from factory. This is suppose to be top of the KTM tree, a bike with a 30k starting price lol. I love it but I can still feel jaded knowing all these are fitted but locked behind paywall. I made fun of EA with games and now it's in cars and bike.
Sad you don't live in Norway. All new cars sold are EV. Test the iX1. Much nicer than the diesel/petrol engines.
Just add in the lifetime fee to each car. No one would then even comment.
The states get way more power in this SUV.
I would not buy one these with the engine options available over there.
other than Tasmania Australia even doesn't get that cold to pay heat subscription :D
So if you buy the car and hot-wire the heated seats to avoid the subscription, can BMW sue you even though you own the car? If so, who owns the car?
I live in Europe, I have just ordered the new X1 23i m sport, never heard of those stupid subscriptions u mentioned. If u want heating steering wheel and seats there are part of a package that costs 850 euros. if u want u pay if u don't want u don't pay.
I live in Europe too and hadn't heard of the subscriptions until this video. I wonder if it is not coming to Europe? Just some markets?
@@dylan.7. or is a market specific feature or this guy is talking shit only for the views. I hope is a market specific
Nope not talking shit, but could be a feature testing in a smaller euro like market like Australia before rolling out worldwide (not uncommon, we are often a test ground!)
Having looked, he isn't talking shit for sure. It is coming to the UK also. Disappointing as I do like BMW.
No subscriptions in the US from what I'm know.
Subscription sounds alright imo because you can just not buy it if you don’t use it, but when it’s say winter, you pay for a few months. If you want the option forever though you could just pay for lifetime and it’s the same as if they charged you for the heated seats in the first place. Plus a lot of people lease these BMWs so if they lease they could save some money by buying the shorter term subscriptions.
you're kidding right? it's a car not netflix.
Sorry to disagree with you but I don't think car subscriptions are the way of the future. There is no way I would pay to use hardware that I have already paid for. It is not a matter of affordability, it is by principal. The Car looks cool though but will not consider getting one only because of the subscription model.
Anyone else see a scary dystopian future where the likes of BMW will have us on subscription to simply turn the car on without needing to watch an ad?
Although I’m no longer in the market for a new car (just took delivery recently) this subscription rubbish would have dismissed the X1 or any car for that matter of my list…..poor form.
Really, who cares about subscriptions when the warranty is five years. Plus, the car has the iX interior design. Thank Odin for trickle down technology.
rent a heated steering wheel for 3 months over winter.
Subscription, not subscribtion
I have always preferred sedans over SUV's but this X1 is making me want to switch.
Subscription is not the way of the future. It's stupidity. First of all it makes you feel as if your car is not actually yours. There are functions "blocked" but you sure did pay for them to be build in. You have to be colossally stupid to pay for that. And why it is not a future? Those overpaid managers should know that. Because car manufacturers who will not use subscription will increase their sale. Most people have negative view on that. And they are right. Having that said I have to say that I'm a BMW fan, love them, love the tradition, design, road handling of their cars and that feeling they give you. Great cars. Bad call with subscription.
Thanks for the excellent review! ❤❤👋👋👋👋👋! The new 2023 BMW X1 has luxury technology and interior! I see it too square and familiar, it looks like a brick with four wheels. It is also much more expensive! Many will like it, but it's not for me! For that super price buy a car that hides or puts fake exhaust pipes???? Come on BMW, they messed up the back of the car! Here in Miami those who have X1 are moving to Mini Cooper that has already increased sales and orders and it is super fun with many options! I just traded in the sedest and boxiest X1 I had and bought a 2022 X2 S convenient package, white mineral metallic sportier, that looks like a little rocket and is more fun for my taste!! Good luck with the 2023 X1 BMW!
I’ve owned 4 BMW’s now but with this new subscription system my next car will not be a BMW sorry!
There will be time with BMW in the near future when your subscription expires your wheel will pop off. The future is coming.
No BUTS. I am in.
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Subs are not small, given the economy.Hey Germany, you gonna charge Ukraine for tank use?
Subs for features. I wouldn't like that
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Why is BMW such an Apple Fanboy? Grow up and add both Car Play and Android Auto to ALL your cars! Paying over $1000 to add it to my BMW is crazy! Fix the direction of the center console cover to open properly for right-hand drive vehicles, please! Large Panoramic Moonroof! How do you block the sun?