Predator 212 Go Kart Torque Converter Install
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2016
- Today we go over how to install a torque Converter on a Predator 212 engine. This will work for any side shaft go kart engine. Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe.
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I just ordered that same kit red beard.... what I like about your videos you show everyone step by step how to install everything you do.... when people are watching you put what ever it may be together, you don't need instructions....... thanks my brother!!!
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Awesome video Redbeard. Love the Simplicity in which you explain things. It really helps. Thanks for being so informative. As an avid go kart enthusiast I look to your videos a lot to help me recondition and rebuild older karts and motors. Thanks for all.
No problem man and we have a lot more coming so stay tuned
Thanks! I took mine apart and needed a reminder how it went back together, your video was perfect!
Yet again red beard! You make all of your tutorials nice and simple! It will make my installation of my torque converter cake.
Bought mine at Go PowerSports , man what a huge difference it made compared to a centrifugal clutch ! Thanks for sharing
No problem man. I think i like a normal clutch a lot better on the road but it is a must have for off road. I get a lot higher top end with a standard clutch.
Perfect video. I got my gokart running thanks to Red Beard!
You're the man Red Beard keep the videos coming
Couldn't ask for a more detailed video, great job and thank you!!!
Thanks red beard . Got a rare 3 wheeled chopper go cart project. You helped a lot.
RedBeard...you the freaking man. Because of this video I was able to figure out what I had misplaced!
Truly an excellent and informative video! Clear and concise instructions, many thanks! I also subscribed. Happy New Year RB!
Thanks RB...you did that demo very seamlessly.
Outstanding step-by-step instructions!
Thanks man. I try to do them the best I can.
That was a lot of help. I ordered the same kit n after watching this video see that I put my kit on all half ass backwards. Thanks again. Great video.
Excellent instructional video. Just used it to install the same torque converter on my predator 212. Red Beard thanks for your help.
Thank you for watching
I had to cut off the oil cap top wings was keeping me stuck out a tiny bit but deff noticed it lol thanks rgb for teaching me almost everything I know about 212 predator!! Went from Not knowing anything about it to being pretty comfortable with doing anything on it thanks again have a blessed day
Very helpful! Working on a kart project myself and you made this part very simple to understand👍🏻😀
Glad we could help
Just want yo say thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your information on these builds. It has helped me fly by things tremendously ❤ love you big ol red beard dewd
Glad to help
Thanks the guy who sent it to me on eBay didn’t send instructions. This helps a lot thank you!!!!
Speaking from experience, he probably didn’t receive instructions either when he bought it new😂
Awesome Videos. Just did this to my predator 420 and the Bike Fly’s. It’s a Nitro 44 frame. Now I have to add Nitrous next !!!
Had no clue how to install until your video. Thank God for You Tube !!!!!!
Thanks Bud !!!!!!!
Thanks for watching man
Gotta say your vids really help when a problem comes up. Best youtube small engine help I have seen. My only problem is I have the hemi predator and the bolt holes are all fine thread while all the bolts in the kit are coarse thread. lol. I guess thats why they have hardware stores.
Love your videos! As a novice I've learned so much from your vids. I will post vids of the drift trike with torque converter I am building.
Sweet man thanks for watching
That's what I'm building to a drift trike it's a chopper really cool
Nice vid. I'm installing one on a rail runner this week. thanks for in info.
Appreciate the video, made putting my daughter's kart back together real easy👍👍👍
Thanks red beard this vid helped me a lot!!!
was a bit worried about installing torque converter on my 212 predator (there aren't instructions) but feel confident now -- thanks bruddah!
Thank you go power sports and red beard 🚁⚓️🚁🚤🚉💺🚁🚢
Thanks red beard this was very helpful.👍🏻
U the man red beard..exsplains everything..no hesitation speaking.very proffesinal.. I perfer u if i need info...i just watched for the hek of it..i did learn one thng.dnt hamer on year puly.because ofvser clip on otherside .good good info..see.professinal. U the man.
Just getting ready to tackle this thanks for the vid!
+HIPPIE1255 no problem man
Couldn't have asked for a better video
thanks man i installed the torque converter ty for the video its so much better no chain grinding and higher speeds without engine rpms being high better for the engine
Just bought one of these setups for predator 212 becuase the kids kept blowing up the old stock comet. Beware those sprockets, they have broken the keyway one in half more than once, so i upgraded it to an ebay replacement with keyway built in, eliminates that weak point. Thanks for the video
AH! I just bought a 9 tooth to replace the 10 for more torque, but I thought it looked thin and weak where the keyway is cut in... I did see the ones with the key molded in, makes sense! Good heads up!
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Thanks for the video, just used it to help me install my torque converter on my 224 predator. Great tips, keep it up 🤙🏼🔧🪛🔩⚙️
Always great informative videos brother! Awesome!
This was spot on.... thanks for adding this video.
Thanks red! Nibody gives the full step by step like u do!
Excellent video. Thanks!
Great editing and clear, concise descriptions. I have a correction, which may have been made somewhere down in the comments. That shaft is tapped for a 5/16-24 bolt. The metric bolt that comes with the clutch is not only the wrong thread, but also too short. Feel free to double check me on this; there are lots of videos and discussions about this TAV on the Predator. I made this mistake and fixed it by making a tap out of a 5/16-24 grade 8 bolt to restore the threads. I used a grade 5 2 1/2" bolt which gives good purchase in the shaft with still enough length for a lockwasher and flat washer under the head.
Exactly, 5/16-24, and the one supplied is too short, I'm surprised (not really) they haven't supplied a longer bolt by now. 👍
I bought this same exact clutch ( Comet 30) from gopowersports and the bolt works perfectly with my Predator Hemi 212. I would know if the threads didn’t match… I’ve been turning a wrench for 45 years. You guys are misinformed.
Well done and explained perfectly
Perfect. I plan on doing this for my 5hp briggs flattie this weekend. This is super helpful.
Thanks for watching
Don't use the metric bolt
Yea, I was previously warned
Ok, so I never ended up putting it on all the way when I made this original comment, but...just had to rewatch to put it on today, thanks RB!
Thank you so much for this video. I'm very new to all of this and I just got me a dingo by manco. Couldn't get enough torque with the amazon clutch so I decided to get me a torque converter.
nah man, I'd reckon you were getting too much torque with the amazon clutch, too much torque can lead to slower speeds.
@@Metalman121 well thats kinda the problem, I never got up to any speed. Couldn't get the thing going unless ot was downhill.
mmhm.
You really helped me Fix my go cart
Awesome, that what I'm looking for.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much. The video help me a lot. Thanks.
love your videos
Excellent video bro!
Thank you so much subscribe and liked! helped so much
Thank you for this pROFESSIONAL INSTALL VIDEO!... great WORK!
Several have made inaccurate comments about problems with the front bolt (thread and length). I bought this same exact clutch ( Comet 30) from gopowersports last year, used the same bolt here in this video, and the front bolt works perfectly with my Predator Hemi 212 from Harbor Freight. I would know if the threads didn’t match… I’ve been turning a wrench for 45 years. You guys are misinformed. Amateur hour & armchair know-it-all’s.
that is what I needed,...THANKS YOU SO MUCH, great job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love the video a have a question. Can you put the sprocket on the back side of the torque converter? If you can, I’m assuming I’ll have to cut the key provided?
Yes
Great video, it helped me a lot
Random I know: Thank you for putting your hand behind the parts. God dang that’s helpful. Wish more people did that.
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Holy crap, just found your channel and you have awesome videos!
Off topic question, when would an upgraded flywheel be needed? Plan on doing air filter, jet, header for now. Thanks!
+Pick6fun I always say if your pushing high rpms you need one
Helpful red beard
thanks just what I needed to know I have 5 go karts I'm putting together for my grandkids
Thank you for the guide. Will follow this to a T when I receive my torque converter.
Random question - which length of 5/16-24 bolts do I need to mount my predator to my Go-Kart? Thank you.
I'm converting a 1990 EZ-GO to gas, just got my torque converter today, thanks for the video.
Keyfarm what are you using for a motor?
@@coleswaggins first I'm using the predator 212cc from harbor freight to get it rolling, eventually I will put that engine on my tiller and upgrade to the predator 420cc. Everything will remain the same, except I'll have to drill new mounting holes in the engine plate. Everything on the rear shaft will be strong for either engine
Keyfarm I just got a Facebook gc160/190 (?) today for fifty bucks! I have to look up the serial number for it. Gonna fab up a motor mount and rear suspension for it soon. It’s going on a Honda spree.
It’s a Honda
@@coleswaggins yea, I think they call the predator engine a Honda clone
Hey Red. When running this setup would you consider running 35 series chain, or is 40 series the only way to go? Thanks
great video very helpful.
Great videos
Thanks a bunch... the instructions that came with the torque converter are a bit outdated so i had to Google.
I heard I was going to have to relearn how to ride my doodle bug after this due to the engine braking but the engagement of the belt was the biggest surprise. Had to give it throttle and wait a second for it to engage.
I have a hole in my knee at the moment due to Whiskey Throttle... be ware. Otherwise this is awesome
Agreed, big man, since most of these sets do not come with detailed instructions. Keep building boys.
Very helpful. Now I know I can do it.
Good stuff, thank you!
Hey great instructions,in your opinion would this Torque converter would work to drive a prop shaft to a small (30feet)sailboat/the dc electric motor is a PGM132 ?
I just built my drift trike and finished it(looks sick) and i broke my torque converter back plate in half SMH ....do you think i should get it welded somewhere or is it easiera and cheaper to buy a new one? If you watch my video youll see i just bought a new $60 clutch from tractor supply for now...but id like to Get the torque converter on it and fixed..thanks man your channel is awesome! 👍
Thanks alot u really helped me👍👍
Perfect, exactly what I needed, only question on mine tho, mine interferes with the exhaust bolt when using the middle bolt hole, so I had to use the edge hole. Is that normal?
Very helpful. Thank you
awesome video very helpful
Thanks for watching.
sweet I got the same engine on my go kart and I'm getting a new centrifugal clutch fir my b-day
I am looking into picking up one of these, my only problem is that I have a 428 sprocket and chain for my bike and I can’t easily change to one either the 420 or #30 chain/ sprocket. Are the sprockets that come with with the torque converter replaceable with different sizes?
That really helps thanks
Great vid ✌👍
Hey Red Beard, your knowledgeable about these things I got a question? Can a torque converter go bad enough to stop an engine? I noticed it's been happening lately and when I try to restart it the wheel moves with the pull string. If I roll the bike a little bit it breaks loose and I can start the motor back up. Could it be one of these pulleys going bad or getting stuck?
Thank u it really helped
I purchased a TORQUE CONVERTER KIT CLUTCH 3/4" COMET TAV2 30-75 218353A 12T #35 10T 41 for a golf cart. I found drive belts for (30 Series Torque Converter Belt Comet TAV2 203589 Manco 5959) will these drive belts fit they say they will fit the COMET TAV2 but the last numbers are difference? Also long will these belts last? I like your videos keep them comming.
This is kinda off the subject to the video but I'm trying to install headlights on a go kart using the same 212 predator and I was wondering if you could explain it to me or maybe post a video of it to kindly make it easier to understand thanks! Love the projects you do and am a happy subscriber!
So the bolts that are supplied or actually the ones that work on it I same one video before that they said you had to switch him out with some other kind because the threads weren't the same
I have a question!!! What do you think about torque converter and stage 1 kit together? Or do you tried it before? Please help I'm going to install it on a baja warrior
Warning!
The 4 bolts that are needed to mount it to the motor are 5/16 - 24.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere and spent a couple hours and trips to 3 different stores all while lugging the motor with me the entire time to find out.
Why didn't you just look at the engines manufacturer's spec sheet, Google your engines owners manual and shop maintenance guide PDF download, they tell you everything you would ever need to know.
@@BubbaB43
While that is a good point, the poster's point is that the info in the video is wrong on the bolt specs.
been watching your vids...nice job. can the sprocket you used be changed to something else? i think u used a 10t.
+Si Hano yeah you can buy different sizes
So I burned up my belt is that due to the brass ring? Or is that my son road it for two hours straight? You have been very helpful thank you
Do you have a video of an electric start install on a hemi 212 predator engine and information on where to get a starter kit???
Hi RedBeard great video. Used it to install a new $65 TC off eBay for the 212. However, after I installed it, the go-kart vibrated REALLY bad and didn't accelerate worth dookie. I've done engine swap before and such, so I made sure everything was aligned properly, bolted on tight, chain had just a little slack, belt clutch on drive shaft tight (had to use shaft spacer to align clutch with jackshaft), even made sure the tires were equally inflated, what could be the problem!? It didn't vibrate before the TC install
+boisebadboy93 I really have no clue what it could be. It's hard to diagnose something over the internet
Somebody may have asked this, and if so I apologize: I have a kit 196 with a shaft welded on the back. I assume I just remove the rear pulley from the plate and put on frame shaft correct? Love your videos thank you for what you do!
Red - Is the torque converter only for 212 hemi or could I put it on my regular 212. Also would it make it faster?
Hi red beard I have a 212 predator on a ct200u straight chained with 10t clutch and 50t rear.is this a good setup?
Do the torque converter mount holes allow you to angle the driven end straight or upward instead of angled down?
Red beard, I need to know can the small sprocket be installed on the other side of the plate and not behind the driven pulley? And what do I need to do it.
Is the juggernaut something you can put on after this or is it a performance kit that comes before this torque converter kit
Would it be possible to put this together with the sprocket on the outside of the rear pulley? Going from a centrifugal clutch to this having fitment issues because it sets the chain back towards the engine more.
this might be a stupid question, but i’m fairly new to minibikes. would installing a torque converter eliminate the need for a clutch?
Im Wondering if a stock CVT transmission off a Honda ruckus or any scooter will do the same thing. I'm trying to find a scooter shell that I can throw my already built 212cc in. As of right now I have a centrifugal clutch and 420 chain set up on my mini bike. It seems as though most scooters use the CVT not only as a transmission but also as a swing arm. My goal is to have a "sleeper" scooter that I register as a 50cc.
Thank you very helpful
Thanks great instructional video. Greatly appreciated. I’m considering using a TC on a kart for our grandson. The engine is a 212cc Ghost. What are a good size sprockets to use on the TC as well as on the rear axle sprocket? One last question please. Sorry to be a bother. What is the biggest advantage or disadvantage using a TC vs centrifugal clutch? Thank you very much.
if your cart weights a lot, or has big tires, or has tall gearing, the clutch has trouble locking up, and might overheat and be ruined. TC pretty much gets rid of that problem. Also the TC changes gears as you speed up, just like a real CVT, so theyre nicer in my opinion. But a clutch is 20$
@@peeinacan1 Thank you. Greatly appreciated.
thanks a million 😃
Hey bro, I got a quick question since I am building my first gokart. Where would the clutch go after you put in the converter or where is the sprocket for the chain?