FIRST LOOK AT THE NEW TEST DRIVE UNLIMITED SOLAR CROWN GRAPHICS, HANDLING AND MORE
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Being a huge fan of sim-drifting, and having started out on a control pad in Horizon 3 and ended up drifting for the last two years in Assetto on a Fanatec direct drive, I played the beta of Solar Crown with a real interest in the handling, and the drifting especially. And in the feedback I left a really long note on how the drifting just wasn't working in TDU, specifically because the cars just grip up far too quickly. It's a slightly less extreme version of what The Crew Motorfest does with its handling model; it just wants your car to grip all the time, and both games are terrified of making the player deal with momentum and weight.
So I left that long note in the feedback, and then a fortnight or so later the devs of TDU SC released a video of someone drifting on a wheel in TDU, a video dedicated to the drifting in the game. And it looked really improved, it looked impressive, so I was quite hopeful that they'd taken some of the feedback from myself and players like me and corrected the physics.
But from playing the demo the physics are just as disappointing as they were in the beta. Any kind of proper drifting is basically impossible, even with something like a 350z, which should be ideal for sliding.
You might think drifting isn't that important in a racing game, and all you care about is racing and driving in a straight line, but the way a game's physics deal with traction loss is crucial, and if they mess it up it basically means the racing handling won't feel right either. If the drifting doesn't feel right then the racing won't feel right either.
yeah, a little annoying that we dont get access to upgrades to power, tires and angle since that is a thing in this, can confirm that I tested it in the closed playtest's
They need to reduce the grip and make it so we can adjust the steering angle limit.
What if it’s because we don’t have access to every upgrade and tuning in the game? It could feel different when you have more access to set your car up for certain builds. I seen they had presets for you to have different handling models for your cars.
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Tuning doesn't really address the issue of excessive tire grip.
They have been listening to feedback for years, that's how most of the little features and details made it into the game, such as vehicle controls, car dealerships and so on. You can be sure that they are listening, also the cars probably grip too quickly because of the tires, since there are different types of tires in the game. I'd assume the standard tires are Sport tires, and then maybe you can get grippier tires, drifting or classic tires, offroad tires... I haven't played and don't know the options, bit I wouldn't be surprised if they were there
I want the game to be good so bad - hopefully they optimize the game for graphics cards that aren't 4090s
Ohhhh I was waiting for you to post about it!
Pontential is there. It just needs to have an option to not be forced with pvp. The physics are decent for an open world racer almost on par with horizon physics
yeah, they have already promised this to be developed after release
Disagree on the physics. They're nowhere near as good as Horizon's.
But they're quite a bit better than any of the other open world competitors out there.
@@thesprawl2361they are not far away from horizon, and horizon is not even even state of the art in terms of physics, you have to also expext that is also proably only an early build of the game.
But it does things horizon 5 does not witch could make stand out a bit,
Its really strange horizon still has no indicators even gt has had it since 2017 and its a track game, would make more sense in an open world racing game
@@andreasmoller9798 To me, it's a long way away from Horizon.
Sure Horizon isn't a sim like Assetto, or even something like Gran Turismo. But Horizon gives the cars weight and momentum, and it models proper physics. And that means that In Horizon you can do pretty much all the things you can do in a real sim - like trail braking, slip angle driving, reverse entry drifts, etc.
Horizon nailed the physics a long time ago and they've been honing it ever since. TDU:SC is bringing in this new physics model and it's not fair to compare it to an established series like Horizon...but life isn't fair, and it feels like they've botched it to me.
@@andreasmoller9798😂😂😂
Cars are like iron and go to flying mode if you touch pedestrian sides
Mustang enters the game, and immediately proceeds to do Mustang things.
lmao
The physics looks like a softer version of trackmania. Not as soft and slidy like horizon. And thank god its not like the nfs physics. Think this game gonna have alot of cool races. Wonder how the rally is gonna feel like
there is lack of mass and too much grip on cars. But I've heard that on steering wheel cars handle much better with this weird-ass counter steer when exiting drift. There is some gamepad assistance issue rather then the broken physics.
it may just be me but ive had many problems with the servers not servering
The ingame driving visuals dont look terrible. They're not great. Not the quality of the screenshots they were showing off last year. But perfectly serviceable. What makes the game look like it came from 2013 is everything involving character models.
What game has great character models on car games no car game has realistic character models at all and no one really cares it’s a car game if people cared games like GTA 5 should be dead but it’s not it’s thriving because of gameplay features and content
@@redhunnid5142 First of all, Punctuations! Secondly, even if it was punctuated at all, this is still mad disjointed ramblings. Lastly, I'm pointing out why people say it looks like a 360 era game despite the ingame world not looking too bad. Whatever else you're talking about is ridiculous nonsense.
7:38 what else is new amiright
Your graphics look much better than what I am experiencing, I wonder if you got a different build than the one that is publicly available, either that or you have a great computer. Seeing how it looks on yours gives me a little hope that the end product might be decent. I know mine looks like a chinese knock-off of what was advertised and it still lags pretty badly but there is something promising trying to peek through. I like the idea that this might end up being a more casual experience than, say, Motorfest, with weekly competitive summits. My worry is that I want to get it for PS5 but I do not have PS+ and I get the impression that the game will not be playable without it.
all I did was download the demo from steam
@@DUBSmbhe means your setup…
@@jayc7874no, build as in the game build or version. He thought dubs could have got a streamer version which was more optimized etc
Are you playing in full screen or boarderless in the settings?
In boarderless it opens up more options and is better overall.
@skullcandy0009 I have tried both ways, but yeah ,borderless is better
I didn't play it yet since I'm on PS5, but I saw BlackPanthaa play it and he said the physics feel somewhere in between Forza and Gran Turismo, and I'd say I agree from seeing how the cars behave in different situations. I can tell that they let go when you give it too much gas, and they will for sure spin out if you aren't csreful, but they also grip back up if you let go off the gas (I can't tell if it requires throotle work due to engine braking or if just letting go will save it, but it isn't a big deal for me since it's still probably the most realistic physics in an open world driving game). I never played Forza, but from watching it, the cars look like they're driving on soap and always sliding around. I had a similar feeling when I tried The Crew Motorfest. While the driving felt overall nice and the wheel control was really good, I always felt like I was taking turns sliding around, almost like Project CARS 1 felt. TDU doesn't seem to have that kind of handling.
Super arcady..
Did u ever play Burnout or Ridge Racer :D
People throw around the term arcade too loosely and have no idea what a arcade game truly is and how it handles the only examples we have nowadays is Need For Speed. This game would be considered Simcade and leaning more towards sim than arcade. Their are way too many sim features in the game for it to be a pure arcade game. The penalties alone for driving through or over certain objects shows it’s not a pure arcade game. Then the tuning and settings to your cars is not seen in arcade games at all it’s always simple with over the top results. The handling over certain terrain effects your driving and the weather effects your driving in arcade racers nothing I said matters in those games. Those are just too many penalties for it to be a arcade racer it’s definitely a Simcade racer. The arcade comes into effect with things like people cars not being totaled from terrible driving. In sim racers the amount of damage you cause to your cars effects it a lot to the ping you can total your car completely.
I wish you could change interior color in Forza Horizon too
Damage physics would be nice
Whats your PC spec and game graphic settings (resolution etc)? I ask because your graphic looks much better than mine 1080p, ULTRA settings, DLAA, FG (RTX 4080, i9 14900K, 64GB).
Have you changed both presets tô Ultra? Post processing stuff have a separate menu at the bottom of "graphics" tab. I had to change mine manually and the game became much more clear
For those who’ve played it and didn’t like the handling: rebind inputs for steering left & right. This gets rids of the (ridiculous) deadzone.
Lowering the steering sensitivity helps to get rid of the twitchy behavior, but you can’t see what you’re changing.
Under keybinds, go to steering l/r, press advanced, hold your left stick/key to the left for like a second, go back & try it. I’m fairly sure you need to go back to settings to see the changes.
I’m at -1.9 (not risking changing it) and my game feels completely different.
No clue why the devs didn’t default to a more “Forza-like” setting, but it’s SO much more promising when the handling doesn’t suck.
I’d assume -1.8 or -1.7 would be optimal, but there’s currently no way of actually seeing what you’re changing (since the advanced menu just doesn’t show).
test drive has always been like 5 years behind atleast graphically
I have a suspicion that they might have reused (or imported) some of the models from TDU2. There is a suspicious amount of cars returning from that game. Also just google the GT-R and look at it. Like google the model from TDU2, compare it to TDUSC, and check a GT-R irl, or in a different game. It literally has the exact same mistakes as the original model from TDU2.
I unistalled it after an hour ill wait for thw full game and try again
I played it on my PC (3070RTX graphics card) and it looks crap, I can only play it on low cos else it will struggle to render. Driving feels very arcady, slightly less than The Crew Motorfest, but not a fan. For me Forza Horizon still feels and looks the best but I would love to see a city like this in there.
Horizon is not much better physics wise. This is close to that
@@andreasmoller9798 I play on a keyboard and especially driving a RWD car feels very different to me, on a controller it's probably less noticable as you have throttle and brake control, on a keyboard it's all or nothing.
Same here graphics wise, i have a RTX 3060TI and have to play on low settings and it still glitches. Car sounds are great though
The handling in forza horizon sucks
Strange, I have an RX 6750 XT and play just fine using a mix between high and medium (mostly for reflexes and render distance)
i played 5 hours of TDU in the last few days, and tbh, apart from the performance issues nad crashes, i think if they play their card rigth we could have a very solid game honestly, its a shame it ll be online only, but i kindfa liked the handling moldel, it still needs some twicks mostly on the oversteer aspect, the doesnt counter steer regardless of what you do, but try out driving any AWD car and the handling shines a bit, if they fix this issues with oversteer we ll have a solid model to play. The sounds of the cars are wonderfull, if all of thge cars on the full version have these good sounds it ll prob be one of the best sounding racing games, the turbo sounds are the best i"ve seen in any game, it adapts on the RPM u are (just like irl) ive never seen any game (apart from modded asseto corsa) to have these details. Overall the game have some good points and some bad points, if they fix some of the issues till launch we can have a fun experience
i downloaded the game so excited to play it and then i couldn't run it 😭
Whats the physics like i have seen so many people says they are shit but i like to have your opinion DUBS as i watch a lot of your videos so you the best person to ask as you are honest
I said it in the video, and made comparisons
You should try it if you can. It's not bad, I wouldn't scream arcadey like DUBS in the video over and over. It didn't seem that arcadey to me, nor BlackPanthaa for example. It's still simcade. Idk what do people expect, a stock 370Z with decent tires won't drift like a Formula Drift car with 1500hp.
@jondasek OK cool a lot of people just want every game to be realistic nowadays all I care about is good arcade physics like Forza horizon for example.And simcade
It's simcade. Kinda remembers nfs prostreet, but more realistic. After I got the hang of the things it became really enjoyable. All the cars have weight to them, and by balancing the weight you can drive as you want. I love to play the Mustang with no ABS nor TC, feels really good to drift around the tight tracks
Game looks like it could've came out over 5 years ago lmao
The Crew 2 is the lowest bar for driving dynamics that I can think of. I've played nearly every racing game ever made past 1997, Thats the worst one.
Looks like NFS (I stoopid)
Funny you say it's easier to handle than fh5 since i struggled a bit to adjust to this game my first time playing it specially without assists, in fh5 i can turn everything off and barely notice the difference. My advice to the audience is play the game because these youtubers are not being very hepful right now. It doesn't feel that arcady, i'd compare it to driveclub so you know it's not bad at all.
It does feel arcady. Stops you sliding when it wants, barely any understeer. It's like even after you turn your assists off it still has some on anyway to help.
pls check unbound new drag and drift update (drift handling changed) ... and Dubs do you have any vlog style video about your recent vacation? (For new channel atleast)
can't, NFS bluescreens my pc and I'm not fucking around with it anymore. I do have a video to go out on that channel but it's not about my vacation
@@DUBSmb tnx
yo dubs, english or spanish?
I'm gay
I’m getting CSR racing vibes lol. I’ve had high hopes for these racing games and they just can’t get it right. The Crew was close but the playlist thing is so dumb. TDU was supposed to be the one man. 😔 MAKE RACING GAMES GREAT AGAIN.
Man, i haven't watched one of your videos in almost 2 years i think.
Time passes, huh...
Test drive will likely get to over 100 cars not 300 to 500 cars.
This is made by a smaller company on a much smaller budget than forza, nfs, crew. People need to realize this when they compare this game to the others, also this is the first one they have developed, not the 5th one. There are some good bits and bad bits right now. However they are proactivly dropping patches and have promised certain things either before or after launch. For me, the handling is sim-cade which suits the game, the map is great and races are okay too, the ai needs to be harder imo. The graphics need to be optimised but this happens late in the dev process. Stuff like dealerships, workshops and hotel are great social hubs to chat to others and hang around. There is much more I can go on about. The demo imo is not as bad as people are saying, but its not perfect. I will wait until more gameplay closer to launch/ at launch before buying.
I wish the handling was better. I can forgive pretty much anything in a driving game if the handling is good enough. None of the other issues would mean a thing if the handling was as good as Horizon's. But since the handling is so flawed the other things become much bigger issues.
@@thesprawl2361 I'm curious in what way do you think it needs to be better? More arcade and easy to handle? Less weighty? More rwd traction (as if you use AWD it's pretty good)
Different people say it's good as is, some say it's bad.
@@wollom0148always online with this caliber of dev is just unreasonable no matter how you look at it, and it shows with all the connection/login issues that they're looking to fix
and I doubt they'll address most of the issues this game had within 3 months before release
Why the hell cant we decide whether to call things a 'demo' or a 'beta'. They're not F'ing synonyms, but studios seem to think they are.
You got big mainstream games advertising pre'release 'beta' access that definitionally a Demo of the game thats going to release in a few weeks. And you got these clows calling this Alpha server test level game access a 'Demo'. Just consistently misrepresenting things on all fronts.
Am I the only one whos being driven crazy by this nonsense?
Nah no way you’re on here saying this has better physics than nfs and motorfest?? 🤣 maybe better than tc2 but definitely not motorfest
The upgrade system has very forza motorsport 2 vibes. Okay cool lets rip off a 20 year old xbox game lol.
Still the same garbage engine sounds as its predecessors. Dissapointed.
The sounds is not that bad, nobody does that part worse than fm 23.
@@andreasmoller9798 nfs made good sounds with underground 2, the rest fallowed slowly, i rly expected more from Test drive..
Again the sounds is still not bad, just because its not the best in the market dosen’t mean they are bad.
Its still decent and it will not ruin the experince for most people, nfs is not even the franshise that has dropped the sounds to become worse in the market either. Look at forza motorsport witch sounded amazing up to fm6, then started sounding worse in fm7 and even worse than that for fm 23, to the point it has become pretty bad. Its the worst sounding forza to date, and by far the worst sounding modern racing game.
@@andreasmoller9798 after 12 years, I expected more.
@@gregorkovacic8224it has not been worked on for 12 years it started being worked on like 2019-2020, and its not aaa title its a small studio with a limited budget, if they just fix the forced pvp and let people play against ai as they wish, it could be a good game.
Hot garbage this game is not anyway near done and the physics suck
No physics is quite decent when you factor in this in an open would racing game and its not even an aaa title.
@@andreasmoller9798 are you kidding me? Test drive is not a AAA title? What world are you living in?
@@Satanisruinedits not, test drive unlimited solar crown is not backed up by any large company, its a small studio with limited budget
This game is just a Roblox mod, so trash