Buyer Beware - Used Rifle Saga Continues

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  • Welcome to Ron Spomer Outdoors. In this episode, I sit down with Steve to figure out where he is at in his used rifle saga. Is his rifle repaired? Or does he have buyer's regret? All this and more, on this episode of Ron Spomer Outdoors.
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  • @michaelsurratt9593
    @michaelsurratt9593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

    It’s college, college, college and no trade schools. I’m NOT against college and education but, there are so many jobs that don’t require degrees. There are so many trades we need.

    • @Hammerback972
      @Hammerback972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hated school, avoided college, had no direction, so I went into law enforcement as a career. It was ok until i got hurt and forced to retire, now I struggle with 16 years of death and violence I saw daily.

    • @chadbinette3201
      @chadbinette3201 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agreed and then after 4+ years your starting your life with $100,000+ in debt and no experience. I know plenty of people in the trades with their own business and doing quite well for themselves.

    • @davidfornkahl8374
      @davidfornkahl8374 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are SO RIGHT!!!!!!! I have never seen so many STUPID people that all share one thing---- THEY ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED!!!! Trade schools are where it's at!!!!!!

    • @GenX-Grampa
      @GenX-Grampa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nowadays they are just communist brainwashing institutions that RUIN your kids! They come home with blue hair, rainbow tattoos and they now HATE YOU!

    • @maynardcarmer3148
      @maynardcarmer3148 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a nephew who took a votech curriculum while in high school for machine practice. He got a job with a major corporation rebuilding generators at power plants. He was on the road a lot, living on the per diem and banking his regular pay. He was making six figures before he was 30, with no debt, and money in the bank. College? Who needs that? He sure didn't.

  • @scruffyarms
    @scruffyarms 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I got into gunsmithing when I kept finding things I needed done. After paying someone else to do work then I saw I could do that. So I did and now have my own shop and as my business grows I'm surprised how much people don't know or understand about their own firearms.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Thanks for taking up the torch for gun repair! We need men like you.

    • @ljwho9921
      @ljwho9921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      My grandfather was known as THE gunsmith of the north here in Saskatchewan, thinking back now I wish I had learned more from him when I had the chance

    • @danielfalotico2776
      @danielfalotico2776 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where are you located? I’m in the Philly area , and it’s hard to find, good, honest gunsmiths. Many guys just put kits together, wether it’s .45’s or AR’s and call themselves gunsmiths. It’s annoying.

    • @ShastaBean
      @ShastaBean 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      always try to remember yourself at a time where you too didn't know things about your guns. We're all beginners at some time.
      This is one of the put-offs that people have with the community - is knowledgeable people or experts are far too often condescending towards those that might not be at their level. It's super obnoxious for new shooters to go into a gun store and get talked to like they are an idiot. You may not realize it, but you just did that right here.

    • @scruffyarms
      @scruffyarms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielfalotico2776 I'm in Wisconsin

  • @larryschmidt3594
    @larryschmidt3594 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I have to agree, I am 66 and for the past 5yrs or more it has been more about the getting together and being out in nature. You get just as exited for the other guy getting a deer as you used to get when you got a deer yourself. Health reasons and age have eliminated one of our party he is 87 and another one passed away 2 weeks before season this year. Enjoy every moment you have and the camaraderie that hunting brings to your life.

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Totally love listening to old men talk and tell stories. When I was still 6 or 7, I remember I would rather sit and listen to my Dad and his friends talk rather than go outside and play with the kids. I'm nearly 70 and still like to sit and listen to the tales... I have a lot of tales to tell of my own now but no one to tell them to.....

    • @creakycracker
      @creakycracker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I too will never forget listening to my Dad and his friends talk about their life experiences when I was growing up in WVA. Being born in 1914 (he went in the coal mines at 14 and saw it all - from donkey carts to continuous mining) and also talked about the hard times during the great depression and making moonshine during Prohibition (I am the first generation of my family that has not made it). I'll also never forget the way he looked at me in his 70's after Mom passed and said "Everyone I ever knew is dead." . He was talking about people he worked and grew up with - He left a bunch of progeny. I'll be turning 70 next year and realize how close I am to the same feeling - my wife passed in 2020. It is comforting to me to listen to videos like this as this generation is waning quickly. Happy Motoring and May God Bless.

    • @Cochise6-6-6
      @Cochise6-6-6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's sad to hear, I'd like to hear a few.

  • @jamesahoffman
    @jamesahoffman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    A old chamber insert repair, the US Navy tried that with their M1 Garands to convert from 30-06 to 7.62x51 Nato. To avoid replacing the whole barrel. They later found out that they didn't age well, either the insert would get ripped out with a cartridge, or crevasse corrosion would set in and rust-jack the insert and the old barrel thus creating changes in chamber dimensions. The band-aid fix is to re-reem the chamber, but the permeate fix is to replace the barrel.

  • @bd65shooter
    @bd65shooter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I work for a gun shop in Northern Nevada on the side, my Grandfather was the stock making instructor for the Lassen Gunsmithing school from 1950 to 1963. He taught me a bunch about stock stuff, so that is what I do for the shop. The main gunsmith does everything else, and we are backloaded on projects like crazy also. One of the things we have noticed is that most new gunsmiths are not true gunsmiths, they are modular parts application managers and nothing else. They can make a nice ar15, but they can't do much else.

  • @PJ_Perry
    @PJ_Perry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I'm 33 and just about to be done at SDI for gunsmithing and attending outside courses ..so hopefully there will be plenty of work as a gunsmith in my area lol

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If your good they will come! If your a people person then you will never be out of work once the word gets out! My friend has worked every single day this year and is finally taking Thanksgiving off!

  • @phillipparker5073
    @phillipparker5073 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    A great, great show. Both of you fellas are compelling to listen to as you seem to almost forget the camera is even there. I enjoyed each segment equally and personally want more of this if it matters. I still watch every video and enjoy the content.

  • @hugoletkeman7049
    @hugoletkeman7049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I went back and watched the first video on this rifle saga. When Ron looks at the bore with his borescope he mentions something odd looking around the neck area of the chamber. Must have been that insert. If it was mine I'd just get a new barrel chambered and call it a day. Benchmark can replicate any contour so it would look same as factory. At least then you know what you got.

  • @glennycarroll
    @glennycarroll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow, Ron! This episode had everything! Challenging technical difficulties that made me want to dive into it, pheasant hunting, camaraderie, insights into Kansas prairie land that most of us never have seen. The excitement on your face that you are going to show all of this to your friend. My all time favorite video from you and maybe from anyone. Even if you both come back empty-handed, it's going to be an outstanding experience. But for now you have the anticipation!

  • @TonyYork-KB9RAO
    @TonyYork-KB9RAO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really miss pheasant hunting, here in Illinois a couple of bad winters back to back, (77-78), decimated the population here and they have never recovered.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tony, it's not the bad winters. They bounce back from those when habitat is good. Look at South Dakota. Weather ups and downs, but with all that CRP cover, they always spring back. Illinois is groomed for corn and soybeans and fescue grass, not ground nesting birds like pheasants.

  • @OdinX316
    @OdinX316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is EXACTLY what gun owners and sportsman should be open honest RESPONSIBLE and thoughtful!! Awesome gunsmith too!!! This was a pleasure to watch!!

  • @gunlover1955
    @gunlover1955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am 68 and what I see is we have a throw away society, people just buy new and throw the old one out! These old rifles have class and they are collector rifles like an old 1955 restored car they are just cool!

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All the beautiful rifles are the old ones and the quality is there too! Who doesn’t live to hunt with a gorgeous rifle?

  • @kansashobbyaquarist713
    @kansashobbyaquarist713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As a central kansas resident, it made me proud to hear all the good words about the state! I was out chasing pheasants last weekend in the post rock capital and cant think of a better place to be.

  • @thebastard1958
    @thebastard1958 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    What a great video, thanks so very much. Please do an update on the hunt!

  • @briankopp1369
    @briankopp1369 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hunting South Florida,J.W Corbitt, I jumped 6 300+lb hogs and an old 10 point in a 6ft.deep brush pond. I heard a twig break, tried to walk in up to my neck and suddenly chaos. They must have been standing there for hours,maybe floating. 30,000+ hunters on 65,000acres, those animals know how to survive.

  • @borisbuliak3626
    @borisbuliak3626 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yup, enjoyed the rambling very much. It’s not ramblings when so much experience is shared. Thx

  • @michaelmarcucci3980
    @michaelmarcucci3980 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great show guys hit the nail right on the head👍 that’s what it’s all about. Thanks good luck with the hunting trip.

  • @arthurshingler2025
    @arthurshingler2025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Almost sounds like that "sleeve" was a case separation in the chamber!
    I've seen that in an AR15, that a 5.56 came apart in the chamber.
    Sloppy headspace. The case came apart when fired, and the bolt extracted the rear part of the case, leaving the front portion of the case in the chamber.
    I used another cartridge to jam in the chamber, and extracted the broken case.
    They apparently have that happen a lot since they make broken shell extractors...
    Chamber too long.... and a rough chamber. Case stretched and was pulled apart when ejected.

  • @adamrumsey4490
    @adamrumsey4490 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Being a Kansas native, and an avid deer hunter I enjoyed this podcast quite a lot. I’m not sure what part of the country you hunt when you come to Kansas, but maybe we will bump into each other while getting coffee at the gas station or something!

  • @treyh0079
    @treyh0079 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Great video guys, good luck on y’all’s hunt. Sounds like a blast! Would like to see a video of the hunt or at least how y’all did. 👍🏻

  • @charlesbrakeville5825
    @charlesbrakeville5825 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ATF over regulation has a great deal to do with smiths getting not into or staying in the trade. I know a couple that dropped out due to this reason.

  • @idahoron
    @idahoron 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When you were talking about the camaraderie and how that is special.
    I absolutely loved taking you and Betsey fishing for sturgeon this summer. Seeing the trip through your eyes.
    It was a time I will always remember, and I hope we get to do that again. I hope that I can put you on that 9 foot sturgeon again.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We too, Idahoron! What an adventure.

  • @peteyoung1312
    @peteyoung1312 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it! I miss the times hunting pheasants in Iowa when ~15 family members would gather into an old farmhouse to go hunt all day and play games all evening! What a blast!

  • @tomcurran8470
    @tomcurran8470 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Like I said in chapter 1, just use the pre-64 Model 70 action, re-barrel and re-stock.

  • @1962clarky
    @1962clarky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi from Australia Ron. The local Aboriginals hunted Kangaroo with spears, and they would run after them when the Kangaroo was running away. But when the Roo would stop to look back, the Aboriginal would stop in plain sight. This would be repeated over and over again, slowly gaining ground until they were within killing range.
    For your information, the Kangaroo can not look back while it's running, hence the frequent stops to look back.
    Cheers
    Dave.

  • @tmdiecastreviews4437
    @tmdiecastreviews4437 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like hearing all your stories. That's how I learn stuff!! Keep them coming Ron. You and your friend Steve tell much better stories than von Benedict.

  • @larrybassett5559
    @larrybassett5559 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Amen on embrace the experience of the hunt, the older I get, the more I appreciate it, life is short, damn short, get out there and enjoy it. I feel for Steve on the .300 H&H, my old Model 70 in that caliber is my all time favorite, carried it many a mile, and has worked splendidly, I hope he finds a good one.

  • @64samsky
    @64samsky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love this! Please do more.

  • @johncoulter1223
    @johncoulter1223 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hay Ron I really like this two old guys talking hahaha I can laugh about it because I'm not that far from you I'm 57 years old and I remember hunting with my dad and friends and I really love hunting with my daughter you and your friend have fun hunting and have fun

  • @craigleibbrand7761
    @craigleibbrand7761 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can shoot 300 H and H out of the 300 Weatherby barrel. And still have 300 Weatherby ballistics if you ever needed or wanted it.

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s about the hunt not the game! Us old guys find out just being out with that old faithful rifle is so invigorating!

  • @tommy-guns478
    @tommy-guns478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the rambling on.. My dad is gone now but he got me into hunting when i was about 16 when he got me sear Ted Williams Model 100 30-30, But true its about spending time outdoors with someone you enjoy.. I got to spend 2 weeks hunting with my dad in late 2020. I think God gave me those 2 weeks on purpose. Even though his eyesight was pretty bad he just enjoyed being outside. passed on Jan 11 2022 88.8 years old. Thank you for sharing Looking foward to the story from kansas

  • @bobkat1663
    @bobkat1663 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ron Great Show.

  • @patrickgrolemund545
    @patrickgrolemund545 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ron I love your program and like it even more when you have guests and discussions

  • @cabochris100
    @cabochris100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One local gunsmith gave it up because of FFL, fees, and insurance problems!

  • @gordyowens9570
    @gordyowens9570 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm a 54 Year union laborer in construction and not many young guys doing that good money but hard on the Body.

  • @tomhumphreys6517
    @tomhumphreys6517 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is the longest ive ever watched. Great stuff.

  • @tedwebster1606
    @tedwebster1606 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep on rambling Ron, stories are great to listen to

  • @DeFransWorld
    @DeFransWorld 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They did this for garands to convert them to 308 from a shorter 30-06 chamber with an insert.

  • @greasydot
    @greasydot 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed this series greatly. The hunt is nice but, the time spent with good friends or family is priceless.

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those sleeves were essential during the heyday of these ultra capacity cartridges, which were part of a gunsmith's answer to the burned-out throats of these screaming magnums

  • @jimparker7778
    @jimparker7778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Internet and information-resources personnel are increasing rapidly. A fast-growing profession that attracts the sort of fellow who might have been focused on detail repair in the old days.

  • @rosswitte
    @rosswitte 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Blows my mind that he is considering not replacing the barrel. With a new barrel is also an opportunity to square the action and bolt head and blueprint everything. Fix everything pretty much forever.

  • @williamgoldston5803
    @williamgoldston5803 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video and conversation. Thanks

  • @russellparrish5745
    @russellparrish5745 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enjoyed your program. Come to think of it I hunt at least 80 percent of the time by myself.

  • @dukeford
    @dukeford 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11:00 - there's no money in gunsmithing, never has been. My long-time gunsmith is getting ready to retire in the next couple of years. They'll have to close up shop completely as there's no one to replace him. He had an apprentice working for him for a few years, but the guy quit to go be a linesman (pole jock). More $$. A mechanically-inclined person is better off being a general machinist, or going into some other skilled trade.

  • @lakerchaser5280
    @lakerchaser5280 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved this one. Thanks Ron

  • @davidbruner9082
    @davidbruner9082 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great Show!

  • @halletts1171
    @halletts1171 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great podcast Ron, really enjoyed it. I will be missing this hunting season, but already making plans for a GA hunt next year.

  • @rambosnake666
    @rambosnake666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank You

  • @daveaver2804
    @daveaver2804 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I instruct the technical crowd at two universities. Most of my students are 30+ in age/ a lot in their second career. Missing the recent HS grads.
    CE Technician.
    Agree with the best hunts are with friends - at my age.

  • @lorettacaputo6997
    @lorettacaputo6997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It has been a number of years since I had a good bird dog and was able to hunt pheasants. Your discussion of the pheasant hunt brought back so many memories and images that I have etched in my memory. Of all the forms of hunting, nothing was as exciting and rewarding as being in the field behind a dog that was working a bird and went into a solid point. The flush, the shot, the retrieve made life worth living.

  • @nelhead4807
    @nelhead4807 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’d love to be a gunsmith but don’t have the space or tools of the trade and nobody to learn from. That bird hunt sounds amazing.

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A friend of mine is one of the top smiths in the state and he would train someone but he is a perfectionist and super long hours but he would be thrilled to train someone!

    • @nelhead4807
      @nelhead4807 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@edwardabrams4972 he’s probably to far away from me. I was thinking of the online classes and then doing the hands on afterwards.

  • @trance20001
    @trance20001 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ron, thanks for this series. WIll appreciate if you will follow up and update with this gentleman's rifle saga.

  • @Stan_L
    @Stan_L 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks for sharing.

  • @uralbob1
    @uralbob1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fine episode guys! Thanks sincerely!

  • @Lemur70
    @Lemur70 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed you having Steve as a guest on your show. Would be nice to see him on your show more in the future.

  • @bentaylor216
    @bentaylor216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed the 'rambling'. Good humour and friendship are a wonderful antidote to so much of the internet.

  • @robertsebacher44
    @robertsebacher44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Part of the problem is that you can quickly go over the price of replacement in repair bills. We are also blessed and cursed by new rifles under $500 that are MOA.

  • @curtisshaffer295
    @curtisshaffer295 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looking forward to the update

  • @jmc041071
    @jmc041071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Ron, no these interviews aren't a waste of time at all!!I love them. I always learn something. Usually more than one something. I have yet to see you do anything that is a waste of time. Except maybe when you talk about the 6.5 Creedmore, or the .308....😂😂😂just kidding.

  • @spacecat7247
    @spacecat7247 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, I like the around the campfire sessions. More is good.

  • @LostBoysProduction
    @LostBoysProduction 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Just put a new barrel on it - all this messing around with a rifle that won’t shoot or feed properly as is isn’t worth it, especially if it’s not a collector’s piece.

    • @danielmaine45
      @danielmaine45 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's more than just the barrel, it's also the action.

    • @LostBoysProduction
      @LostBoysProduction 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielmaine45 it sounded like all this chamber sleeve nonsense was contained to the barrel. Like most bolt action rifles, the chamber in a Model 70 is part of the barrel.

    • @danielmaine45
      @danielmaine45 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LostBoysProduction yes the chamber is part of the barrel, but often when a sleeve is used a cut is made on the face of the action into the threads to allow it to "mechanically lock" into place when the barrel is torqued down. Imagine a splined cut in parallel with the axis of the bore. Then once the barrel is torqued down the Smith finishes the chamber with a reamer to fix any problems. If that is what happened (not saying it definitely did, I wouldn't know without pulling the barrel off the action)

    • @LostBoysProduction
      @LostBoysProduction 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielmaine45 it’d be easier to understand with a picture, but I think I understand what you’re saying. Original owner who started the work should have opted for a new barrel then, and saved Ron’s friend or any future owner the heartache. Caveat emptor I guess.

    • @dukeford
      @dukeford 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, it is sort of a collector's piece. Pre-64 M70 Winchesters in .300 H&H aren't very common. It's worth a bit of messing around to see if the barrel can be salvaged somehow. I'm skeptical anyway that the issue is a poorly-installed chamber "sleeve" or insert. It doesn't really make any sense. He said he couldn't get his reloads to chamber. If he was using resized brass that could be the problem. Resized brass fired in one rifle doesn't always chamber in another rifle of the same caliber.

  • @johnkennedy2060
    @johnkennedy2060 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope Steve is able to fix his rifle. I heard him bring Sportsmans Warehouse in Salt Lake City, UT. There are some listing for Gunsmiths in the Ogden UT. area also. Best of luck John.

  • @PapawB
    @PapawB 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can relate to “The Skills Gap” . . . retired machinist/mfg engineer, 50yrs exp.

  • @hughswanzy8871
    @hughswanzy8871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed!

  • @tubeonline629
    @tubeonline629 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoy this content, keep it up please.

  • @michaelwilson9986
    @michaelwilson9986 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well Done

  • @danielfalotico2776
    @danielfalotico2776 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Great conversation. I really envy you guys. I got into hunting late in life. I hunt with my son (who is on the spectrum) , twice a year. We’re lucky to have a place in western Pa that is owned by a friend of mine. Actually, we leave tomorrow morning for deer. If it wasn’t for him, it would be tough finding land for the two of us. Here we have a nice sized blind, and we really enjoy the time together. In July, we head to Tioga, Pa for boar and hogs.
    Videos like this is what it’s all about. Listening to where you hunt, describing the land, awesome. Keep up the tradition. Best of luck on your Kansas hunt.

  • @jcjustice3786
    @jcjustice3786 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Being older myself, I enjoyed listening to both of you just talk; but I will say you both had something missing on the table and that is 2 glasses filled with ice and either scotch or whiskey to drink and toast to good times.
    Once a soldier
    Always a soldier

  • @efrencarrasquillo1077
    @efrencarrasquillo1077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Word of advise, make sure to range the distance. You don't want to shoot and hit the knee of a deer at 700 plus yards.......

  • @RogerSnell
    @RogerSnell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great stuff!

  • @portersorensen8814
    @portersorensen8814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm a 23 year old who is trying his hardest to get into the gunsmithing world. I have a degree in firearms technology and everything for me it is just so much to buy and a lot more cost than I can pay right now.

    • @portersorensen8814
      @portersorensen8814 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But I am working at it slowly, I'm still hopeful

  • @stevebellows2759
    @stevebellows2759 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a plumber by trade myself and I agree there are not enough younger people wanting to get into the trades. Nobody wants to work anymore. They want everything handed to him. I turned 50 this year and I’ve been doing plumbing since 93’. Hi myself would love to get into some basic gunsmithing classes possibly something further.

  • @tomhumphreys6517
    @tomhumphreys6517 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid!

  • @MarvinTurner-oc4ml
    @MarvinTurner-oc4ml 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please keep doing this sort of episode, Ron. I get a lot of contentment from hearing "two old guys talking" about things I appreciate. I am not a hunter but I do shoot targets and plink. The information gathered from this video may help me avoid a buying mistake in the future. It may prompt me to get out my over/under .410 and buy a license to hunt birds. Or maybe I'll just get the camera and go for a walk in the woods to enjoy nature.
    Thanks for all you do!

  • @johndoe43
    @johndoe43 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gunsmith and automotive machine shops are similar. They are getting rare. And finding those that know what they are doing is getting hard to come by.

  • @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead
    @TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can't Brandon Herrera sort this out? 🤔 He'd love this kinda stuff as a gun smith, especially to help this old boy.

  • @rogersturges2399
    @rogersturges2399 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Keep doing these kinda videos very interesting and informative a new barrel would be the easiest way to solve this issue but then you have a good shooter but not original kudos to him for wanting to keep it original this is the kinda problem you always hope not to incounter that’s the kinda issue you face when you get a good deal on a 70 yr old rifle good luck we all are pulling for you to get the rifle you want and rescue this one ☝️

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why being a gun collector I only buy what I can personally inspect and it pretty much ends this problem!

  • @45-70Guy
    @45-70Guy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an electrician on the east side, just as the others you mentioned, we are booked out until the following fall already. Finding help is about impossible.
    Great video guys love the content.

    • @ahoneyman
      @ahoneyman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As a former electrician apprentice the pay scale is a problem. They want apprentices with 2-4 years of experience at $18/hr? Need to do better than that.

    • @45-70Guy
      @45-70Guy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ahoneymanI hear you but that’s the problem with working for people who are less about ethics and more about profits.
      We start our apprentices if they have their owns tools at $25.
      I have a handful of older buddies who have 5-6 man crew companies locally and they all pay the rate you mentioned but at that lower rate they get insurance, benefits, sick and vacation time. Company rigs too.
      On my end because we can not find any reliable help which is Modtly because of our location, we pay more on the rate to hopefully incentivize workers though it doesn’t seem you can pay someone to have a good work ethic as we have some who still call in once a week etc...
      I will tell you this though, get your masters no matter how hard and long it takes you. When I was young I made $5 and hour to start and when I left as a journeyman I was $18 while running the whole company, that’s when I knew it was time to go on my own. It’s the best thing you can do is get the license so you have opportunities all over.

  • @saccorhytus2728
    @saccorhytus2728 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    'Masters in Russian Literature.'
    I see what you did there, Ron. 😊

  • @robbietruner5340
    @robbietruner5340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, Ron I really enjoy the Chanel and the info and teaching if all guns you cover. I bought my middle son a 223 wssm . He was a bit hesitant on bigger guns and 30-30 and up. But fell in love with a friends Browning bolt action in 223 . So I tried to get one but found the Winchester 223wssm and I like it. And he did to. We are hunting white tail in Ga. As years have gone buy he is 6.4 and older so there is not much he wants hunt with. Can you talk about what happened to the 223wssm and were can I find ammo. Keep up the teaching. And thanks again.

  • @GeorgeSemel
    @GeorgeSemel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had the same aggravation with a 318 Westley Richards that I bought out of the Shotgun News back in 1993. I had Lon Paul work on it as best he could; it was a worn-out and, my guess, abused trade rifle. At the time, Lon was barreling a 318 for Harry Selby, and he called me up and asked me If he could use some of the cases and bullets to regulate the sights on Harry's rifle; I said go right ahead. While I got burned, I remember having a roundabout connection to one of the Great East Africa PHs from the Golden Age of Safari hunting. My fix was straightforward: I bought a 338 Winchester Mag and a Sako 75 SS that I still have and called it good. As I said before on this subject, finding a Pre 64 Winchester M-70 in 300 H+H that has not been buggered up is a tricky thing to find these days. Being a Gun guy, its just was one of those things.

  • @aceoswell9849
    @aceoswell9849 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ron, next time please show us that massive whitetail rack and the story behind it.

  • @davidfist7801
    @davidfist7801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This really bums me out! I hope he gets it fixed.

  • @kipb2078
    @kipb2078 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard to believe that he’s never heard of Mike Rowe. Rowe is an awesome guy!

  • @benjaminkiser2938
    @benjaminkiser2938 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I once started on the path to be a gun Smith but as I got further into it I found it to be too costly to continue

    • @edwardabrams4972
      @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So true my friend who is one of the top smiths in the state was just talking to me about how much it cost and said there is only one insurance company for gunsmiths now and it’s ridiculous how much it cost! He has been so busy that he has worked every single day this year and is finally taking Thanksgiving off!

  • @edwardabrams4972
    @edwardabrams4972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boy Mickey Mouse sure got ahold of that rifle! I have seen a sleeve in shotguns but not on center fire rifles! I am a 60+ year rifle collector this is the classic reason I don’t buy on Gunbroker! I do look on Armslist and will drive to where the rifle is and inspect it and then decide if I am going to buy it! Of all the hundreds of rifles I have only got hurt a few times but I ended up trading the rifle off or donated it to the local gun range to have one of their gunsmiths repair it! I am so fortunate to have the best gunsmith in the state as a friend and I go out of my way to make sure he loves to have me come buy! I bring him a small gift every-time I show up at his shop! I make sure my smith is making money and I give him all the time he needs but when I have 5-10 guns in at once I can usually get him to work on the one I want or need! We need more gunsmiths for sure!

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ive seen barrel sleeves for centerfire but never chamber sleeve

  • @tomhumphreys6517
    @tomhumphreys6517 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Liked the reference to mike rowe.

  • @jackmorrow427
    @jackmorrow427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HEY FELLOW REBARREL IT YA MAKIN' ME CRAZY LOL

  • @peterconnan5631
    @peterconnan5631 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I enjoyed that, thank you. Steve, I admire your attitude in this. However, from an engineering standpoint I recommend that the only way that rifle should be repaired is by replacing the barrel.
    My job is designing industrial pressure vessels. In those, the design rules state that any sleeves should he able to handle the pressure to be applied on their own (not supported by anything around them). Firearms are not subject to the same rules but that doesn't mean that the reason those rules exist are invalid in a firearm context. In fact I would argue that due to the rapid cyclic nature of the pressure in a rifle chamber those reasons are even more valid. Unfortunately the relative diameters involved in a .300 Win Mag makes it impossible within the confines of the Mod 700's action thread diameter.

  • @Cochise6-6-6
    @Cochise6-6-6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Us tradesman are a dying breed, the era of a jack of all trades is passing, sad to say, I'll do what I can to keep my little's interested.
    The shift of focus in education from trades to forcing the stigma of "college or else" is a perpetual cycle that others are profiting from, because they don't know any better and parents aren't teaching fundamental and critical thinking about life, I'm in no way talking down on college, for some its the way to go, its up to us left to inspire the next generation and keep it alive.
    Great video, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to the two of you talk.

  • @EDCandLace
    @EDCandLace 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For all that work and cost, just do a rebarrel.

  • @judelarkin2883
    @judelarkin2883 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started as an apprentice electrician in Denver in 2002 at $8.50. That was more money back then but still not enough to live on. I did various jobs as an electrician for the next 15 years. I usually had to drive an hour to an hour and a half each way to get job sites. Most jobs were hostile workplaces to some degree or another. I was exposed to unsafe levels of hydrogen sulfide, among other things. Many of my coworkers were drug addicts and drunks. I wasn’t able to afford a house until I finally got an office job. People that don’t work in the trades say I don’t understand why people don’t want to be electricians. I’ve never heard an electrician say they don’t know why no one wants to do the job they do.

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Stuff '' 💯 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @KmandoDave
    @KmandoDave 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought id put my thoughts in as an young Australian guy, being 24. Over here due to our laws its hard to be a gun smith so im looking at visa to move stateside to become a gun smith.
    I think theres 3 main reasons for a lack of gunsmiths, a lack of practical skills, the potential of loosing friends because you enjoy guns (I've experienced that one myself) and if you dont know anyone involved in that world its a bit of a mystery as to how to even start as a gunsmith.
    Great show as always.

    • @stewart8127
      @stewart8127 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are lots of gunsmiths they just don't want to live in Utah. A Mormon police state

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ATF, fees, and insurance.

  • @WillyK51
    @WillyK51 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, if the action is one you want to keep, a Chamber cast is the way to start. Sleves are not unusual, You can sleve a old rifle with no cartridge avallable for a modern cartridge. Sloppy gunsmithing might scerw it up. Smart gunsmithing can correct those issues. A aftermarket/used rifle barrel is a cheap way to correct the issue. Rechamber for a new cartridge a simple posibility. I print out Cartridge pics/dimention to see what can it be rechambered or use a std. cartridge to reform/wildcat to fit. No old rifle goes to waste

  • @mikemaloney5640
    @mikemaloney5640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr Spomer, I really appreciate you and what you do. Never taking sides, just saying what you have witnessed. I appreciate that. May I ask you a question. Short story. Model 700 Remington, 7mm saum, problem with extraction. Okay fast forward. Took it to the local gunsmith, he purchased a reemer for said gun. He loaded some rounds for me. The rifle shoots absolutely wonderful. What I found was that the bolt is very sloppy when there's no round in it. Is something deficient? Or is that normal? Am I missing something?. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you 😊

  • @Jonsoar
    @Jonsoar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A guy in my office actually got a degree in russian studies. He's been an inept technician. Almost anything he's touched has ended up worse than it was. He's been relegated to strictly computer work. Apparently he's a decent musician though.