THIS is What Frangible Ammunition Can Do! SinterFire GreenLine
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- Disclaimer: Special ammunition was used in this video which can be used much closer than conventional FMJ lead-and-copper style ammunition. Attempting to reproduce this drill is not recommended, and should NOT be done. Attempting to shoot steel this close with standard ammunition could cause serious injury due to lead and copper splatter off of the steel. DO NOT SHOOT STEEL THIS CLOSE. This video is for entertainment purposes only, and The Reloading Craft and its members are not responsible for any viewer actions.
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Check out this video for more info on the Frangible ammunition used, and for a demonstration by SinterFire’s own product reps.
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THERE IS POSITIVE VENTILATION WHICH ENSURES WERE NOT BREATHING A TON OF COPPER DUST! Y’all can please stop panicking about it in the comments now…
Disclaimer: Special LEAD FREE ammunition was used in this video which can be used much closer than conventional FMJ lead-and-copper style ammunition. Attempting to reproduce this drill is not recommended, and should NOT be done. Attempting to shoot steel this close with standard ammunition could cause serious injury due to lead and copper splatter off of the steel. DO NOT SHOOT STEEL THIS CLOSE. This video is for entertainment purposes only, and The Reloading Craft and its members are not responsible for any viewer actions.
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Check out this video for more info on the Frangible ammunition used, and for a demonstration by SinterFire’s own product reps.
I was wondering wtf you were doing 😂
How thick was that steel box?
I believe 3/8”?
Now they need to come up with a gun that shoots out a swiffer dust mop
😂😂
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@@michaelkavaloski792 lol hahaha you have a great sense of humor
@@thereloadingcraft you should shoot someone in the leg with it
siiii sweeeeerer.
I caught a frang ricochet to the face. They don't always powder up.
What brand frangible, and what were you shooting at?
I sense bs
@@valqueenofValhalla well good thing your opinion is irrelevant
@@cmaysongood thing your irrelevant comment about someone being irrelevant is....... irrelevant!
@@brianweatherman1207 bacon tastes good god damn it
I use these as plinking rounds in my reloads for my 9mm and 223. Pretty fun lil bullet and surprisingly accurate.
I flinched those closer he got.
Still perfectly safe 👌🏻
I’ve seen it available on a ton of websites but never understood the utility of it. Thanks for the info.
You’re most welcome! Happy to showcase it 👌🏻
Didnt know this was a thing, thank you!!
You’re welcome! It’s quite interesting for sure
"Thing" is a character in the Adam's Family.
Go train indoors at the Sig Academy in NH. Frang is mandated on their indoor ranges. Look at the floor under the steel targets and you'll be shocked at how much dust from the bullets is on the floor. There had to be millions of rounds worth on the ground during the LE Low Light Instructor class I took. It was inches thick all over the floor.
AfT : MiCRo StAMp BuLLetS
Me : I'm frang mang, mang.
Where can I find some of those those are so awesome you don't have to worry about going through a wall or through a door or glass after going through a person or you miss they explode so you don't do any other damage what a great concept
So they WILL penetrate soft barriers. Glass can slow them down, but they will go through standard interior house walls and such. They require something as hard as themselves or harder in order to pulverize into powder.
I believe Midway USA is their main distributor at the moment.
This should not be used for duty or personal defense ammunition. It is really only good for steel target shooting. Our police range did use it for a while because it was supposedly less wear and tear on the baffles downrange.
@@signal13 this flat point variety no. Their duty line on the other hand does exceptionally well when tested in gel. Check out my other video here->
Frangible Self-Defense Ammo?? @sinterfire Special Duty 9mm & 45 Auto Tested in Ballistics Gel
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@@thereloadingcraft Interesting video of the self defense hollowpoint version. I too, was unaware until now that it was a thing. Performance in gel was pretty decent too. Perhaps a little to much overpenetration of some of the fragments, but far better than I would have suspected. That temporary wound cavity was pretty impressive though. Apparently, the Federal Air Marshals did use frangible ammo for a time, but switched back to hollowpoint ammo because studies showed that the risks of catastrophic depressurization on an aircraft had been greatly overestimated. Thanks for the reply.
Ooh yes get nice and close and breathe in all them heavy metals 👌🏻
The indoor range has a positive ventilation system to carry the fine particulate outside. We were fine.
Nice, that makes shooting steel worry free. Thx for ederacating us Mericans.
You’re welcome, and yes it does!
I'll stick with the incendiary rounds.
I like objects igniting at 3-5 thousand degrees and continue to burn. Brings anyone right out of plated armor, and severely injures those in vests...
Rounds that get it done.. incendiary...
1. Need a gel block to see performance. A body is not a steel plate
2 I'd be concerned about using any specialty ammo in a self defense situation.
So with the flat nose range training ones they’re obviously not designed for self defense. SinterFire DOES make duty hollow points that do quite well in ballistics gel. Check out my gel test on them here ->
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@@thereloadingcraft thank you
Absolutely!
Surgeons love them...
HKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK ALLLLLL DAYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
Many a range officer have suffered an early death breathing this high lead dust...
Look what the ammo is…it’s completely lead FREE frangible, not to mention the room has positive ventilation
Hes a dam good shot
Thanks 👌🏻
Lead free right? That’s what the green is referring to?
Correct. The greenline is completely lead free, both in projectiles and the primers.
Nice presentation!
Thanks!
What is the purpose of this ammo?
Will it still hold effective against human targets?
Is is for in home self defense?
Pardon my lack of understanding.
Thanks.
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
Sounds like nano tech 🤔 it inters your blood stream
What a great idea
It’s a very neat way to prevent ricochet’s or fragmentation dangers.
frangible ammo. AKA small door breaching rounds. these rounds are made and function the same as 12g breaching rounds.
Legends will remember the Nighthawk M1911 review with frangible ammo from FPS Russia 🔥
Takes me back…
Who tf really hasn’t heard about frangible? Truly?
Check out the comments on this short. People are losing their minds because they don’t realize it’s frangible or know what frangible is, even though I expressly said it.
Are DA/SA guns slow? Let’s find out! #SinterFire #hk #hecklerandkoch #shootsteel #shorts
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@@thereloadingcraft lol you’re right, that’s so funny to me!! It’s such an old development.
It’s been around for a while, was a surprise to me too how many haven’t heard of it.
I imagine these would be ideal for home defense since you dont want to shoot through the wall and hit a family member or something
Any bullet capable of meeting minimum penetration specs and stopping an attacker is going to go through interior walls. If it doesn’t, it’s not going to be viable to use for self defense in the first place.
Even though I knew what frangible ammunition is, I still got nervous watching you shoot the steel from so close
Oh it’s definitely an adrenaline experience the first couple times you do it. I’ve tested it enough times and seen the production to know it’s safe
This is revolutionary
Interesting. What are their ballistic properties compared to conventional ammunition? Do these come in varied bullet weighs? How about barrel fouling?
There are various weights, but they typically are going to be lighter than a comparable FMJ. velocities are a bit higher thanks to the lighter weight, and barrel wear is reduced because they’re lower pressure than heavier weight ammo.
So what your saying is I need a hardened steel box my supressor thies rnds and I can shoot in my garage without the nabors calling the cops!?? I'm sold
Never used the Sinterfire frangible, but I do use the Norma LE frangible rounds.
What would this do in ballistic gel? How much penetration could this have if you accidentally used it as carry ammo?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
I understand that they are designed for close range. At 50yrds I have had a meter discrepancy!
Discrepancy in POI? What caliber were you using?
@@thereloadingcraft I would have to find them, either .223 or a 5.56. I switched to ball nose and I was at a 3 mill group (I am not a marksman by any means) but my (older buddy) was giving me crap saying it was my red dot. Ammunition was a gift and using a 5.56/.223 ar. After changing to a normal round it hit steel every time at 50-75 yrds!
Interesting 🤔
I know with the 9mm there can be a bit of an impact shift due to lighter projectile and faster/flatter velocity.
In 223/5.56 though I haven’t noticed much difference. They’re standard 55 grain, and are doing around the 3100 FPS out of a 16” barrel. Could’ve been a difference in an earlier lot, or maybe something specific to the rifle perhaps. I’m honestly not sure
So what happens if you shoot someone with them? How much penetration does it offer? Does all the energy get dumped into the body making it more effective then a pass through shot?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
Created for air marshals and carrying on aircraft and to not penetrate walls so you don't take out your neighbors when someone breaks into your apartment
Not completely correct. They WILL penetrate interior walls-in fact any bullet designed to be lethal will penetrate multiple interior walls. Exterior walls though, especially if they’re made of brick or block will stop them however.
@@thereloadingcraft yeah I looked that up after but definitely for aircraft
I didn’t realize the aircraft bit. Makes perfect sense tho 👌🏻
@@thereloadingcraft colt or s&w made a revolver for air Marshals I'm pretty sure it had a plastic cylinder because of how lowpressure it was and it fired ceramic bullets so it wouldn't over penetrate. I believe they used them in the 70s and there may have been 1 case of someone actually using it. Ian from forgotten weapons has a video on it
@@UncleHashy I will have to look it up! Love Ian’s channel and the cool pieces he shows!
Good to know for when you have to turn your hallway into a shooting range..🤭
Now this just makes me wonder how these would do against a person. I mean if you didn't want to have to worry about over penetration, then THIS would be your best bet. Plus I wonder if this couldn't be considered "less than lethal" rounds, as they would probably not penetrate very far into a person either.
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
He shot it through steel
No I didn’t. It stops and powder-izes on the steel, not as much as a divot or dent.
Got a bunch of it. Cuts my carry weight down a few ounces and I know I won’t over penetrate my target
Lol
I can never tell when y'all are joking or serious.
@@NOOOOOOO0OOOOO well its important so you dont hit anything behind the target!
we need a gel test!!
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
@@thereloadingcraft thanks! I guess I could have just looked through your vids first lol
No worries! ☺️
What's that do to your bore of the gun??? What do you clean it with? 🤔
Nothing regular ammo doesn’t…? It’s copper just like regular FMJ against your barrel.
I carry arx.
Best of both worlds.
Stay safe peeps.
Why is this bullet that doesn't do bullet things so fun? Lemme show ya
Would be nice to see some collateral damage testing. Shoot some dry wall, bricks, lumber etc.
Definitely can arrange that, I know for a fact they will penetrate drywall no problem, but should stop on brick or block. Lumber is an interesting one, need to test that and find out 🤔
Wow!
Why did you not do a gel test? Thats what i really want to know. How does it act in a soft target?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
Can you test this ammo with ballistic jel? Curious to see the results.
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
If you didn't know about frangibles yet.. you're probably very very new to the firearms world!
Look at the comments section on my “are DA/SA guns slow?” Short….dozens of people freaking out that I’m using frangible on steel that close 🙄
Can you imagine using this in a self defense situation, it doesn't kill right away, wait 30 or 40 years later after carcinogens start to take affect 😂
What carcinogens? It’s non-toxic….?
What’s the use for these?
Opinion on using this ammo for self defense?
*Idrc about killing man as much as I just care about stopping a threat*
-opinion in price compared to fmj (which I run) vs stopping power-
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
@@thereloadingcraft noted, *thank you*
And great explanation
Thanks!
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that make it penetrate way worse while also costing more? Maybe I'm not the target audience.
So these (the flat point models) will penetrate soft tissue, but will stop and fragment into small pieces whenever they hit something as hard as themselves or harder (think brick, block, steel, etc)
SinterFire does make Frangible duty projectiles which are designed to perform well in gel, check out my video on them here. th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
It turns to dust on impact so how would it penetrate more?
In soft tissue it will penetrate like an FMJ. They only go to dust when they hit something harder than themselves
What about breathing that dust? Safer than lead?
Positive ventilation with dust extraction near the target, so we weren’t breathing it. But yes a lot safer than lead even if you were.
ghost bullets
They’re not, because they do leave particulate behind, and if they hit soft tissue act like a normal projectile. They only powder on hitting something hard.
I've definitely been hit by ricochets of sintered/frangible ammo, but it just hurt, no bruising or cuts.
What mfg. sintered were you running? With the SinterFire it feels like you’re having sand blown on you on the beach, nothing even stinging.
@@thereloadingcraft federal syntek
@@thereloadingcraft also, sorry, can you upload the excel sheet you're using to calculate price per bullet?
I was pretty sure and just did some research-syntech uses a polymer coating over a lead core and is not a true Frangible bullet. It will still send lead splatter out after it hits the target. I would not recommend shooting it up close for that reason. Unless there is a true Frangible offering in their syntech lineup that I’m missing, of course.
And yes on the spreadsheet, though it will be a bit as I work second shift and won’t be home till late.
Actually send me an email at thereloadingcraft@gmail.com and I will send it to you that way.
Huh. Neat!
Agreed, they’re super cool!
What's the damage like need some bolistic test done
So the regular flat point training rounds will go straight through a 16” gel block. Their Special Duty Hollow Point projectiles on the other hand do quite well in ballistics gel, and you can see my test on them here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
What makes this desirable in any way? The other things I've watched about it is that the collateral damage would be approximately the same.
They’re completely lead free, and they don’t splatter and ricochet like standard FMJ’s do, if they hit something hard
@@thereloadingcraft looking for a low collateral damage antipersonnel round. Got any suggestions?
@@fppro1679 can you define what you mean by low collateral damage?
@@thereloadingcraft damage other than the intended target, going through walls, etc. Looking for something expends all its energy in the primary target.
If you’re hitting the intended target, most defense hollow points will dump 90%+ of their energy. Any bullet designed to meet defense protocol standards WILL penetrate through interior walls, and anything that will not is underpowered at best.
Are they legal ? What does it leave in a person ?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
i know frangible ammo from fpsrussia
It's been around for a long time, but extra salty.
and what happens if your target is wearing dense and thick clothing?
Unless that clothing happens to be Kevlar or has steel in it, the standard FP models should penetrate right through. We’re planning a heavy clothing ballistics gel test here soon
Too bad SinterFire won't run at all in my wife's G42. Maybe if I find a lighter recoil spring assembly it might.
Possibly? Is it the factory spring?
@@thereloadingcraft it is. Though I probably should clarify that with the pistol in my wife's hands, the SinterFire ammo would stovepipe nearly every round, though in my hands, I could typically run a full mag without failure. Which indicates to me that a weaker grip (limp wrist) may be the actual issue & not 100% an ammo issue. Either way, the ammo does have to be reliable in a particular pistol WHILE in the hands of the person who will be carrying it.
We took her G42 out to the range last week & put 8 different boxes of hollow point ammo through it so we would know before a potential GO GO GO.
3 brands would either stovepipe or just wouldn't push the slide far enough to even engage the ejector, leaving the spent brass in the chamber. And those Federal HSTs... oof. Makes that G42 feel like a 38 spl J-Frame.
What was surprising to me was that the ultra light Liberty Civil Defense rounds weren't much better in the perceived recoil department. Sig & Rem. did pretty well, but I was also disappointed with Hornady for having 3 : 20 feed hang issues.
At any rate, more ammo ordered & in route for further testing.
Afterwards I would likely be open to seeking out an alternate recoil spring assembly.
Definitely seems like a grip issue if it’s cycling perfect for you but not for her. Aside from seeing if she can improve her grip, I would recommend making sure all metal-on-metal components are well lubed (any excess friction retarding the slide travel speed can have compounding effects when in a weak grip) and if it’s still doing it then maybe check into recoil springs. The spring needs to be strong enough to reliably chamber even when it’s dirty, but light enough to allow the slide to go fully rearward when fired to extract and chamber the next round.
So now i can shoot in my house 😊
No! 😅 these will still go through drywall like nothing. These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and drywall isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
These are made locally to where I live!
Nice!! I got to tour the fsctory recently, video on that coming soon!
@@thereloadingcraft you live in that area?
About 3 hours or so away here in PA, but not a bad drive 🙂
@@thereloadingcraft I'm legit less than 20 minutes away from the plant.
Nice! It’s basically middle of nowhere up there. Aside from the very spotty cell service, it’s a gorgeous part of PA
What’s it do when it hits ballistic gel
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
What would it do in the body?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
Feels like it might break up as it shoots out and make the gun dirty faster
It does not, they stay together just fine. If anything the gun shoots a little bit cleaner actually
What happens if it hits bone and flesh ?
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
You definitely don't want to be breathing in that frag dust if you're indoor shooting. Also I've had pretty poor performance with the greenline ammo as in multiple hangfires and even a squib once.
The room we were in had positive ventilation to remove the particulate. Also if you had issues with it, reach out to SinterFire-their customer service is top notch, and if there was an issue in the product I guarantee they will do their best to make it right.
Wouldn’t want to breath it in
We didn’t. Positive ventilation and particulate evacuation in that range.
So, what's the point of this? From what I understand If it would be used as a self defense round it would still penatrate a body and keep traveling and penatrate walls until it hits steel. Who has steel built into their walls at home? Maybe I'm missing something.
The point of the standard flat point rounds is for training on steel where you won’t have ricochet hazards. For the defense HP loads, they will break apart when hitting concrete, block, steel, and asphalt although they will take chips out of those respective materials. They are also lead free, and can be shot indoors without lead exposure, provided you’re running the green line which has lead free primers as well.
The primer in these can corrode fast though
Um….what? They use non-corrosive primers, like all modern ammunition manufacturers do.
@@thereloadingcraft something happened. During the pandemic, I purchased sinter's hollow points and fmj rounds because they were the only thing available at the store due to the shortage. I stored these along with my Remington, Winchester, and some foreign polish 9mm rounds and the only problem out of all the ammo was my sinterfire's had green around the brass and the primer, and the letter stamp I'm between the rim and the primer. I didn't buy enough to call and complain, I had around 100 rounds out of 300 to go bad. All properly stored in my range gear. I like the performance of this ammunition, but from what I have seen I would 100% not recommend for long term storage unless this was just a rare blue moon event, the stars aligned, and I got screwed. The length of storage time was around one year. Not long at all. I know of people who have ammo that is older than me and I'm 32 and their stuff still works lol. Who knows, but I thought I would just throw my feedback out there in case any need to know
I bet thats really healthy to breathe in
It’s a positive ventilation room with dust extraction, and furthermore there is no lead particulate!
What exactly would you use this for?
Anywhere that you’re training on steel inside normal shoot ranges (say 15 yards and in) and don’t want any kind of richochet hazards, or anywhere you do not want lead exposure.
Does it foul up your barrel?
Not anymore than regular ammunition.
Mike Glover thinks this is what hollow point do
I shot some frangible bullets and it would go through a brake rotor
That’s odd…what brand Frangible and was the rotor super thin or something?
@@thereloadingcraft they were inceptor frangible for 50 Beowulf. The rotors were off the back of a grand caravan and about 1/2 inch cast
so, if you don't want the cops to match a projectile to your gun...
That’s literally not even how bullet tracing works…also they don’t fragment unless they hit something harder than themselves…
So untraceable bullets?
No, they still leave fine particulate, and the standard FP models don’t fragment in soft tissue. (They stay solid)
You think most people watch gun videos don't know what frangible rounds are?
someone that doesn’t might try it. do you want that to happen? stupid people exist.
@@AquaJV Might try what?
@@doughaner2709 My apologies. The drill he performed in the video, which would be dangerous for someone that doesn’t understand why what he’s doing is safe.
Are you in West Virginia?
No
Well if you shoot steel you probably know what it is how can you not most gun people should
I've always wondered how it works as a defense round
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
It wouldnt leave a round behind for them to trace back to you🤔
That’s not how bullet tracing works anyway…
@@thereloadingcraft some people watch too much tv
Wut. Frangible has been around for 30ish years. Most know about it.
I volunteer to test ammo.
Edit: Meant shooting the ammo for Q/A, not being a ballistic dummy.
It would still go through flesh my friend…..it only turns to powder on things like steel please do not get shot homie
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
@@durangosanchez3688 That is not what I meant. I would volunteer to test the ammo by shooting it not by being a target. Getting shot by anything that isn’t airsoft, paintball, or laser tag would be a very shitty experience.
I just wish they weren't so damn expensive!!!
Factory loads aren’t cheap, components aren’t bad if you’re reloading tho
@@thereloadingcraft last I checked frangible are about 4x more than regular practice rounds, but I do see the advantage especially if you want to train up close.
Oh heavens, I’m handloading them for 30-40 cents a piece in 9mm, compared to 22 cents a piece for FMJ handloads.
@@thereloadingcraft I don't load my own ammo 🤷♂️
Ahh, sounds like a good excuse to start? 🤔😂
Fire into gel
These would pass straight through most likely. They only break up when hitting something as hard as themselves or harder, and soft tissue isn’t harder than compressed and sintered copper/tin. Definitely 100% lethal, and they will pass through a 16” 10% ballistics gel block. In comparison their Special Duty ammunition which employs a pressed or drilled hollow point in the nose does exceptionally well in ballistics gel, test video here ->th-cam.com/video/Xa6gOx_z0UU/w-d-xo.html
I wouldnt want to breath in that fine dust to be honest
The room has positive ventilation fans-clean air by the shooter and a vacuum source near the particulate.
What's the point...
Weird. Guess I'm just old school.
Nothing wrong with old school. SinterFire has been making these since ‘98, and I believe early versions of Frangible go back even further than that.
What happens if you shoot people with em
But... Why?
Dont breathe that in.
The room has positive ventilation
Inhaling all that lead can’t be good
There is absolutely zero lead in SF GreenLine ammunition.
Do they come with 7.62x51 NATO?
Asking for a friend...
I believe so? Would have to check Midway
Last I heard, frangible ammo is illegal to own. Has it been made legal?
Frangible has never been illegal to own, at least here in the US. You may be thinking of armor piercing?
Tell them they should invest in respirators
There is a positive ventilation system to carry the particulate away from the shooters
Untraceable rounds sounds like a bad idea
They’re not untraceable in the least.
Can you explain exactly how its a bad idea?
Still finding regular ball ammo for cheaper then this stuff.
Yes ball is cheaper, but you can’t do this with ball
How much is a box tho ? Lol