The thing I love about Mega Venusaur is that it was less of a straight buff like most mega evos, but rather something that allowed it to operate on a different paradigm. You could run non-mega Venusaur as a sun sweeper, OR you could run the mega as a special tank. More megas should have given pokemon that kind of versatility.
I feel like unhinged Ubers tiers are generally more fun to build and play though, because you're already using the strongest mons in the game why not let the rules lax a bit
@@JerdMcLean NU the tier where you have to bring 6 of slowbro talon diancie dragalgae flygon thund krook tsareena magnezone mienshao or else get cooked? I will say RU is a pretty diverse tier but saying NU isn't centralized is stupid
I like how prior to this video our main source of information about Venusaurs updated performance was how badly it over shadowed other grass types in differing generations like vileplume and victreebel and now we've finally gotten to see its full history in shape. It was kinda a hype build up in a way.
I’m not gonna lie, it’s actually insane how Venusaur and Charizard are depicted as generational rivals or opposing forces in official Pokémon media (Boxart, _Adventures,_ etc.), and in the competitive scene, they eventually ended forming one of the sickest duos in history. It’s almost like a Pokémon equivalent to Goku and Vegeta, or Naruto and Sasuke.
Definitely arcanine in singles. Or Incineroar. Always been pretty good, never once threatening (aside from that arcanine 2). Funny how both are great in vgc
To give a more detailed explanation on how it is currently faring in Gen 9 NU (as of June 2024): it has been a rollercoaster ride for it. When it first dropped to NU, it was alongside Ninetales and Hisuian Lilligant. Sun absolutely annihilated the tier when they first dropped, and while Venusaur was of course an integral part of Sun cores, Sun's brokenness purely came from Lilligant-Hisui, who was hilariously broken both with and without Sun. It was no surprise that Lilligant-Hisui got booted out of the tier fairly quickly, but once that happened, Sun became a rather unpopular playstyle for a few months in the tier. Venusaur was still a solid mon in the tier, but it was very specific. However everything changed early on in May, when NUPL started. The NU playerbase proceeded to then discover Scovillain, a mon previously languishing in ZU (Untiered). Scovillain was always known as a Sun sweeper, but it was very overlooked for a long time due its flaws (namely its nonexistent bulk). It turns out that Sun cores is an absolutely suffocating presence thanks to Tera Fire Specs Scovillain. Venusaur of course continued to be an integral, mandatory part of Sun cores, but the discovery of Scovillain is what is currently pushing the playstyle to problematic territory. Players even started using inferior Chlorophyll/Fire types in comparison to the aforementioned Villain + Venu combo, and is discovering great success. The discovery of Sun's most powerful core during NUPL is, on top of that, also unleashed a huge wave of exploration within the tier. Manual Rain is becoming far more popular; Mew and Oricorio-Pom Pom cheese sets is also becoming more popular (especially the former); Ditto is becoming more popular; old Pokemon previously NU like Inteleon and Toxtricity has been getting some usage. After a long period of stabilization, NU has become a very volatile tier thanks to NUPL/tournament discoveries and its story is still being written. Edit (6/14/24): Drought just got banned from SV NU. This may mark the end of Venusaur's time in Gen 9, since this means that Drought is banned in PU as well, but we will wait and see.
Ive loved Bulbasaur and all its evolutions since the original Gen 1. In a Nuzlocke i did not long ago my Bulbasaur was absolutely carrying and after i completed it, a friend gifted me a sketch she'd made of my Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, and Venusaur all wearing Kamina glasses and with tattered kapes blowing un the wind. It's the sickest thing ive ever gotten. They made it to the end and helped me defeat my rival. My bulbasaur, Spuds, believed in me who believed in him.
Him referring to BruteRoot and nicknaming your Bulbasaur after just reminded me how I tried this EXACT thing with Squirtle. The moment I saw this movie I wanted my Squirtle to be called ShellShocker, but before gen 6 all nicknames were 10 characters. From that point onward, I name my Squirtles after my 7 year old's idea: ChillySpot. I have 0 idea what I was thinking as a kid with the name but I refuse to nickname Squirtles anything else.
27:26 Seeing Kellen put his own placing is very cool. You always ALWAYS show the innovation and the results for so many top players internationally so it's nice to see you add your own placement (even if it was for a joke).
One important thing to note about Mega Venusaur; If Venusaur has Chloropyll during Sun BEFORE it Mega Evolves, it still gets the sun speed boost for the first attack it makes as Mega Venusaur. Kinda crazy, and something I used in my Sun team for Gen 6 onwards.
Still waiting for the counterparts to complete: - Carracosta - Seviper - other gen 5 monkeys - Gothitelle - Alola Starters And I guess we could finish up Gen 2 with Sunflora, Magcargo (Slugma Male Grindset paying off when?) and Corsola. I think those are the only gen 2 Pokemon left to wrap it up.
I know Venusaur is the least popular of the trio (I really like it, don’t worry Venusaur fans), but on the battlefield, it’s a Pokémon I see damn near everyone respect. It’s relatively bulky (especially so when Mega’d) and has a good enough movepool to put in some great work
Venasaur being less popular than Blastoise is really outdated. I see Venasaur/Charizard being mentioned a lot but Blastoise has become irrelevant in comparison to his buddies
You really love how Venusaur and Charizard started as rivals and ended becoming best buddies under the harsh sunlight Meanwhile, Blastoise is crying in the corner with it's not so useful Hidden Ability under the Rain What an ability can do to a mf
It's arguably Blastoise that is the least notable of the trio by this point: - Venusaur is consistently effective with its base form (Chlorophyll is a hell of a boon) and its mega gives a unique form of tanking (Toxic and powder immunity, thick fat on a grass type, beefy defences, e.t.c.). - Charizard is infamous for multiple reasons, mostly its poor performance without megas (Solar Power makes it a glass cannon with too much glass and not enough cannon), its mind games with megas (Either dragon danced to death or immediate blasting), and its extensive history of GameFreak playing favourites. - Blastoise gets rain dish (Outclassed by Tentacruel the one time it's actually useful), and its mega gets Mega Launcher (Good, but not impressive given what the others got), and bulky waters are a dime a dozen. It's the awkward middle child of the Kanto trio, and it shows. Thankfully, things are turning around a little given that it's the highest tiered of the three in RU as of June 2024, but still. EDIT: Okay, I underestimated how much cannon Charizard had with Solar Power, but I get the feeling that its issue with consistency and survivability remains. Please correct me on otherwise.
I mean it is such a great concept for a pokedex entry or design especially for a gen 1 mon Way better than a simple dragon or a turtle with canons even tho i do agree all 3 are cool but basic
Thank you for always making these sorts of videos! The sheer amount of research, recording, and editing that went into this must have been really intense, and just wanted to say thank you for that!
First starter I ever used. I truly have enjoyed seeing it progress across the generations, consistently charming every time. Appreciate the dedication to seeing its ups and downs.
Back in the ADV days I was part of a Netbattle server that ran an RPG with numerous changes to each pokemon. We decided to give Venusaur Thick Fat, and even with its regular stats, Venusaur was waaaaaay better. Years later, I see we give Venusaur a form with increased stats and Thick Fat. I was floored. To this day I'm thankful that Megas can't hold items
Gen 1 Venusaur isn't actually outclassed by Victreebel as a Swords Dancer: without Wrap, Venusaur's bulk hits much more significant damage threshholds than Victreebel's higher attack, it's faste, and Victreebel can't actually fit Wrap onto an SD set without giving up Sleep Powder or Razor Leaf.
This was a video I was hyped for ever since the Charizard video, and it delivered too. Although I do wish there was a mention of Venusaur winning senior worlds in 2022.
One cool video idea would be looking at mixed attackers. Maybe one video on successful mixed attackers (like Lucario) and unsuccessful ones (like Octillery, seriously how did they screw up so badly with this guy)
Having played pokemon for years, venusaur has come to be my favorite kanto starter Leech seed+toxic is fun to utilize, its coverage is just good enough with the presence of earth power, good use of overgrow with stab giga drain fueling its tankiness, and its mega removing two weaknesses on top of the stats buff Not to mention, i just like healing attacks personally, and venusaur does a great job balancing tankiness with stalling
Venusaur is better played as a Chlorophyll sweeper nowadays although it mandates Torkoal as a teammate. +2 Speed with Chlorophyll and a buffed Growth in sunlight are too good to ignore.
@@chaosgallade2331 I can ignore it, it's just not my play style I prefer a balanced team approach, the kind that can handle anything when played well, with healing attacks being my specific thing Honestly, if venusaur had calm mind, it'd be a benchwarmer for my team, overgrow stab giga drain, earth power for steel/poison types, black sludge and perfect accuracy toxic for its poison typing, only thing it lacks is personal status curing but i can overlook that and recognize the talents it balances
Love that it’s stayed relevant all these years. Always been a favourite from the days of playing Red as a kid and only really using my starter, beating Koga by spamming cut 😂
I’m very interested in how Venusaur will do now that regulation H removes all restricted mons and paradox pokemon. It’s basically the only super strong sunny day user again, so I’m hoping it’s gonna have a very nice end to gen 9.
Can’t wait to see how well Venusaur will be alongside not just Groudon, but Koridon as well. Tera-fire is definitely going to be its most popular Tera-type. Edit: Well, maybe Venusaur will get better once two restricted Pokemon become viable.
Venusaur is my generation 1 starter of choice, and I'm happy to see that it's the most consistently good generaion 1 starter across every generation. Venusaur's stats aren't mimaxxed like modern starters are, but its stat spread is incredibly versatile depending on what you want to do with it. Fast sun sweeper? You got it. Bulky tank? Go nuts. Doubles support? Why not? Venusaur may not be as deadly as Charizard or as bulky as Blastoise, but it can do both surprisingly well, one of the few successful jack-of-all-trades in all of Pokemon.
honestly, i would argue saur is way more bulky than stoise given its resistances. Water resists water, fire, steel, where only water and fire are kinda common. Grass has way more useful switchin resists like water, fighting, fairy, and an immunity to leech seed and toxic/ toxic spikes.
Since the remake of older videos started, i was waiting for the starters to get their own videos. First Charizard, now Venusaur, and the next is Blastoise (i hope)
This one really grew on me over the years. I couldn't appreciate it as a kid who went all in on brute force, but it has a great capacity for passive damage, sabotage, and survival. Just as a plant pokemon should be, I guess.
Finally another Kanto starter remake video. Proud of Venusaur's success despite it's supposed overlooked reputation from the fanbase for years. Something tells me when the Blastoise remake video is made, it won't be as long or as positive unfortunately.
Blastoise definitely didn't get as big of a glowup but it is important in various lower tiers as a rapid spinner (which tends to be rarely available), has a decent mega, and a decent g-max that both had *some* success. It won't be as long but I still suspect it's going to be pushing towards an hour
I would love to see a video on the process for banning pokemon/restricting moves/abilities from tiers: basically just talking about who gets to decide what is banned, and maybe bringing up some examples of the most contentious bans in the past. This is kind of inspired by your video you did on the fastest bans, which I really enjoyed! Speaking of which, this was another great video!
It was explained in that video though, each tier has a council of ~5-11 people (more usually if it's a more common tier like OU) that handle doing suspect tests or if something is very obviously too strong they decide to quickban it after holding a vote amongst themselves. Becoming a council member of any given tier usually involves proving to be very competent in that tier/previous generations of that tier
I once beat a M-Venasaur with a Bulky Lanturn with stall burn. The oponent was raging furious that the bulky staller got outbulked and stalled harder. A great memory from Gen 6, but even then, this Mega monster was insanely powerfull at the time. Removing 2 weaknesses by just existing was outrageous, but still a great mon to face and have in a team.
I kinda wonder how far back this video's production goes, because the gen 1 section feels pretty dated. Venusaur has made a suprising resurgence in RBY OU in the past few years to the point where some people would genuinely place it as high as C tier in viability. Yes its generally outclassed by Victrebell due to Wrap being, well, gen 1 Wrap - but the discovery by players that its a better Swords Dance user than Victrebell that abuses sleep and para support really well has given it a real respected foothold in the meta that isn't a total gimmick. I can't blame them for not being the most up to date with recent times for a video thats probably taken several months to a year of research given the length of the vid and detail that goes into these, but it does irk me to see them drop the ball on that section :/
Special Venusaur is better because its Special Attack is higher and it has 2 ways to deal with Steel Pokémon - Fire Weather Ball in sunlight and Earth Power. If you ever decide to use physical Venusaur, Power Whip is the better Grass STAB because of its significantly higher power and still usable enough accuracy.
Kellen using Swords Dance Petal Blizzard Venusaur is the greatest innovation I've seen in all of VGC. No questions asked.
Finally, a movie length explainer about the coolest warty guy
Hi Pat
OMG IT’S PATTERRZ!!
@@stevenashley27not sure why but I read your comment in Gentledude’s voice 😆😂🤣
Hi Pat
Venusaur gang rise up!
Yep that's my boooooyyyyuuu!!!
The thing I love about Mega Venusaur is that it was less of a straight buff like most mega evos, but rather something that allowed it to operate on a different paradigm. You could run non-mega Venusaur as a sun sweeper, OR you could run the mega as a special tank. More megas should have given pokemon that kind of versatility.
Even Gmax Venusaur functions fairly differently as you can’t sleep opponents in that form.
Gen 1 venusaur's eyes is the definition of gen 9 Ubers: Unhinged
I feel like unhinged Ubers tiers are generally more fun to build and play though, because you're already using the strongest mons in the game why not let the rules lax a bit
@@1peidu Trust me, that Venusaur was DEFINITELY having fun with how stoned he looked.
Dont you mean OU?
@@1peidu Couldn't tell you I only enjoy playing tiers like NU and RU where you can have diverse fun and every team isn't the same 6 pokemon
@@JerdMcLean NU the tier where you have to bring 6 of slowbro talon diancie dragalgae flygon thund krook tsareena magnezone mienshao or else get cooked? I will say RU is a pretty diverse tier but saying NU isn't centralized is stupid
I like how prior to this video our main source of information about Venusaurs updated performance was how badly it over shadowed other grass types in differing generations like vileplume and victreebel and now we've finally gotten to see its full history in shape. It was kinda a hype build up in a way.
Lol yeah, every grass/poison except amoonguss; the video is basically “how much WORSE than Venusaur was victreebel/roserade/vileplume/etc actually?”
@@brain_tonicSpeaking of Amoonguss, when are we gonna get that?
the avengers endgame of FSG lmao
I’m not gonna lie, it’s actually insane how Venusaur and Charizard are depicted as generational rivals or opposing forces in official Pokémon media (Boxart, _Adventures,_ etc.), and in the competitive scene, they eventually ended forming one of the sickest duos in history. It’s almost like a Pokémon equivalent to Goku and Vegeta, or Naruto and Sasuke.
So Blastoise is what? Krillin? Sakura? 😂
@@winter9242Dang. I think Blastoise really is Sakura. 💀
Zard y was a support
And venusaur was There to destroy
@@laxusstrauss5945call that the Gogeta
@@winter9242he spins for goku to not take pebble damage
We have How good was actually how great was actually and how bad was actually and more but we don’t have how ok was actually
How ALRIGHT was Regirock actually?
How is either
Definitely arcanine in singles. Or Incineroar. Always been pretty good, never once threatening (aside from that arcanine 2).
Funny how both are great in vgc
How MID was Luxray ACTUALLY?
How INCONSISTENT was x actually?
He’s not wrong. I did nickname my Venusaur Brute Root.
I honestly forgot that Venusaur even had a nickname 😅
I nicknamed mine Plant Beast.
Named my first one frog I think
I usually name mine Caesar
english is not my first language so i thought he called him "bruce root" so i always named my bulbs Bruce lol
Kellen appearing in the VGC section and roasting himself is hilarious
Exactly. I'm surprised he even dabbled in VGC.
Timestamp?
27:26
I think he mentioned this on the fridge podcast with Jim cool lol
Wait is Kellen false swipe gaming name or am I crazy?
To give a more detailed explanation on how it is currently faring in Gen 9 NU (as of June 2024): it has been a rollercoaster ride for it.
When it first dropped to NU, it was alongside Ninetales and Hisuian Lilligant. Sun absolutely annihilated the tier when they first dropped, and while Venusaur was of course an integral part of Sun cores, Sun's brokenness purely came from Lilligant-Hisui, who was hilariously broken both with and without Sun.
It was no surprise that Lilligant-Hisui got booted out of the tier fairly quickly, but once that happened, Sun became a rather unpopular playstyle for a few months in the tier. Venusaur was still a solid mon in the tier, but it was very specific.
However everything changed early on in May, when NUPL started. The NU playerbase proceeded to then discover Scovillain, a mon previously languishing in ZU (Untiered). Scovillain was always known as a Sun sweeper, but it was very overlooked for a long time due its flaws (namely its nonexistent bulk). It turns out that Sun cores is an absolutely suffocating presence thanks to Tera Fire Specs Scovillain. Venusaur of course continued to be an integral, mandatory part of Sun cores, but the discovery of Scovillain is what is currently pushing the playstyle to problematic territory. Players even started using inferior Chlorophyll/Fire types in comparison to the aforementioned Villain + Venu combo, and is discovering great success.
The discovery of Sun's most powerful core during NUPL is, on top of that, also unleashed a huge wave of exploration within the tier. Manual Rain is becoming far more popular; Mew and Oricorio-Pom Pom cheese sets is also becoming more popular (especially the former); Ditto is becoming more popular; old Pokemon previously NU like Inteleon and Toxtricity has been getting some usage.
After a long period of stabilization, NU has become a very volatile tier thanks to NUPL/tournament discoveries and its story is still being written.
Edit (6/14/24): Drought just got banned from SV NU. This may mark the end of Venusaur's time in Gen 9, since this means that Drought is banned in PU as well, but we will wait and see.
Thanks for the write-up, always nice to see comments actively adding to the discussion :)
Thanks for the additions about Gen 9. This is the kind of comments I like to see, in competitive Pokemon videos
With megas coming back frog boy will be back on top again
Venusaur in competitive Pokémon is like a good grilled cheese.
Simple, not really flashy, but also very reliable and refined to excellence.
Also a certified classic
Venusaur getting a 'Good' when Articuno got a 'Great' feels like a hatecrime
The original venusaur video wasn't called "How GOOD was Venusaur ACTUALLY?"
@shawnli4746 Doesn't mean Venusaur deserves a 'Great' any less now though lmao
Ha, they changed it
@@acoupleofschoes LMAOOOO THE SYSTEM WORKS
@@SalmonOfK84Charizard.
Even though Charizard is my first starter and my favorite of the Kanto starters, I have nothing but respect for my floral friends of the Venusaur line
Ive loved Bulbasaur and all its evolutions since the original Gen 1. In a Nuzlocke i did not long ago my Bulbasaur was absolutely carrying and after i completed it, a friend gifted me a sketch she'd made of my Bulbasaur, Ivysaur, and Venusaur all wearing Kamina glasses and with tattered kapes blowing un the wind. It's the sickest thing ive ever gotten. They made it to the end and helped me defeat my rival.
My bulbasaur, Spuds, believed in me who believed in him.
Him referring to BruteRoot and nicknaming your Bulbasaur after just reminded me how I tried this EXACT thing with Squirtle. The moment I saw this movie I wanted my Squirtle to be called ShellShocker, but before gen 6 all nicknames were 10 characters. From that point onward, I name my Squirtles after my 7 year old's idea: ChillySpot. I have 0 idea what I was thinking as a kid with the name but I refuse to nickname Squirtles anything else.
Shelshockr
@@shawnli4746 I have this specific memory of trying that as a kid and going "nah that looks dumb"
@@BrimBlamlike feraligatr
Shellshocker.
And for the other guys, they may not have a nickname but they do have Charizard. THEY CHOOSE HIM!!!!!
27:26 Seeing Kellen put his own placing is very cool. You always ALWAYS show the innovation and the results for so many top players internationally so it's nice to see you add your own placement (even if it was for a joke).
One important thing to note about Mega Venusaur; If Venusaur has Chloropyll during Sun BEFORE it Mega Evolves, it still gets the sun speed boost for the first attack it makes as Mega Venusaur. Kinda crazy, and something I used in my Sun team for Gen 6 onwards.
Similar thing applies with mega garchomp. For the first turn, he doesn't lose speed from the mega.
Prankster Sableye as well~ 1 priority status move on the turn you mega and have magic bounce for the turn
All is left is to uncover the King of Rapid Spin of the Lower Tiers, Blastoise!
Shell smash in later gens go brr
Question is would be the remake video be as long like its Starter Brethren or just miss the hour mark.
@@thatman666 probably less than an hour. Having a mega and being gen 1 extends it a lot tho
@@thatman666 It's gonna be way shorter. Blastoise has always suffered more than the other two for being outclassed by other Waters.
@@teddyhaines6613 vaporeon, tentacruel and Lapras outclassing him since gen 1. And it is only the beginning
Still waiting for the counterparts to complete:
- Carracosta
- Seviper
- other gen 5 monkeys
- Gothitelle
- Alola Starters
And I guess we could finish up Gen 2 with Sunflora, Magcargo (Slugma Male Grindset paying off when?) and Corsola. I think those are the only gen 2 Pokemon left to wrap it up.
The other Alola starters too. I believe he's also done one of the Galar starters too
I'd love to see Primarina. Its consistently an incredible 2-time UU mon now currently in OU.
My Owl boy is soo left behind its soo sad T-T
Just let tge Owl get something
I know Venusaur is the least popular of the trio (I really like it, don’t worry Venusaur fans), but on the battlefield, it’s a Pokémon I see damn near everyone respect. It’s relatively bulky (especially so when Mega’d) and has a good enough movepool to put in some great work
venusaur gained more popularity than blastoise due to competitive especially since gen 5
Venasaur being less popular than Blastoise is really outdated. I see Venasaur/Charizard being mentioned a lot but Blastoise has become irrelevant in comparison to his buddies
Literally almost noone is talking about blastoise anymore, lots of people always talk about its toad bro tho.
You really love how Venusaur and Charizard started as rivals and ended becoming best buddies under the harsh sunlight
Meanwhile, Blastoise is crying in the corner with it's not so useful Hidden Ability under the Rain
What an ability can do to a mf
It's arguably Blastoise that is the least notable of the trio by this point:
- Venusaur is consistently effective with its base form (Chlorophyll is a hell of a boon) and its mega gives a unique form of tanking (Toxic and powder immunity, thick fat on a grass type, beefy defences, e.t.c.).
- Charizard is infamous for multiple reasons, mostly its poor performance without megas (Solar Power makes it a glass cannon with too much glass and not enough cannon), its mind games with megas (Either dragon danced to death or immediate blasting), and its extensive history of GameFreak playing favourites.
- Blastoise gets rain dish (Outclassed by Tentacruel the one time it's actually useful), and its mega gets Mega Launcher (Good, but not impressive given what the others got), and bulky waters are a dime a dozen.
It's the awkward middle child of the Kanto trio, and it shows. Thankfully, things are turning around a little given that it's the highest tiered of the three in RU as of June 2024, but still.
EDIT: Okay, I underestimated how much cannon Charizard had with Solar Power, but I get the feeling that its issue with consistency and survivability remains. Please correct me on otherwise.
Venusaur will always be the best Poison-type starter for time to come, as it is the ONLY Poison-type starter we got.
venasaur remake is here holy, a movie
Speed boosting weather abilities are mind-blowing. As is Growth getting buffed to be a Swords Dance + Nasty Plot buff simultaneously in the sun.
How can a frog with a flower on its back be so iconic?
Cause he is nr. 1 baby
I mean it is such a great concept for a pokedex entry or design especially for a gen 1 mon
Way better than a simple dragon or a turtle with canons even tho i do agree all 3 are cool but basic
"It's the boy he's here"
Toad*
Bulbasaur #1
@@Mecharuvatoads are frogs
ONE HOUR VIDEO FOR THE BEST KANTO STARTER?!?! LETS FFUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am also a big Venusaur enjoyer. I always name mine "Bruteroot" like that guy's Venusaur from the first movie.
"Best" 😂
It is though@@VGHistory1
Keep being delulu bro
@@EngelionYour comment is incredibly ironic.
My goal in life was for my name to appear in a FSG Venusaur video, and I’m happy to say I’ve done it.
Thank you for always making these sorts of videos! The sheer amount of research, recording, and editing that went into this must have been really intense, and just wanted to say thank you for that!
I love the false swipe movies cant wait for the gengar remake
The ultimate starter - was never abandoned by GF, never dropped down below NU, standing strong to the test of time.
First starter I ever used. I truly have enjoyed seeing it progress across the generations, consistently charming every time. Appreciate the dedication to seeing its ups and downs.
We're not missing our Sleep Powders with this one🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
Back in the ADV days I was part of a Netbattle server that ran an RPG with numerous changes to each pokemon. We decided to give Venusaur Thick Fat, and even with its regular stats, Venusaur was waaaaaay better. Years later, I see we give Venusaur a form with increased stats and Thick Fat. I was floored. To this day I'm thankful that Megas can't hold items
Honestly as a kid i misheard the nickname and called mine "FruitRoot"
Same here.
the actual best starter
Venasaurs crackhead eyes when attacking are quite the unique design choice.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE YOU'VE STARTED REMAKES, I'M SO HYPE
Today we have the iconic Pokémon: Mr Frog
Haha Hello Chlorophyll sun sweeping haha hello
@@zackarysmith2222 * Frog soup meme template *
Chlorophyll time
I've always wondered what made Venusaur have such sticking power in competitive, seemingly immune to power creep. This video explains a lot.
Gen 1 Venusaur isn't actually outclassed by Victreebel as a Swords Dancer: without Wrap, Venusaur's bulk hits much more significant damage threshholds than Victreebel's higher attack, it's faste, and Victreebel can't actually fit Wrap onto an SD set without giving up Sleep Powder or Razor Leaf.
Venusaur 🤝 Charizard
Together we are strong regardless of the gimmick at hand
And Blastoise is there I suppose😂
Victreebell just returned to OU in the lastest RBY tier shift, so I wonder if Venusaur is about to get boosted again
Venasuar the movie got to grab my popcorn we’re in for a long one
This was a video I was hyped for ever since the Charizard video, and it delivered too. Although I do wish there was a mention of Venusaur winning senior worlds in 2022.
Finally a video for the best Kanto starter!
One cool video idea would be looking at mixed attackers. Maybe one video on successful mixed attackers (like Lucario) and unsuccessful ones (like Octillery, seriously how did they screw up so badly with this guy)
U forgot that mesprit is a mixed attacker.. Lol that's so tragic. It never runs physical attacks tbf but that's as tragic as octillery.
U forgot that mesprit is a mixed attacker.. Lol that's so tragic. It never runs physical attacks tbf but that's as tragic as octillery.
It was amazing, nice video
My first game is Leafgreen, and Bulbasaur is my first starter ever!!
Been waiting way too long for this video. The wait was well worth it!
Venusaur's gen 5 sprite will forever be elite. Look at him. What a menace.
Thumbnail is fire for Venusaur
Oh...Oh no! 😮😂 That's gonna be super effective! 🤣
No, it's Grass/Poison
Having played pokemon for years, venusaur has come to be my favorite kanto starter
Leech seed+toxic is fun to utilize, its coverage is just good enough with the presence of earth power, good use of overgrow with stab giga drain fueling its tankiness, and its mega removing two weaknesses on top of the stats buff
Not to mention, i just like healing attacks personally, and venusaur does a great job balancing tankiness with stalling
Venusaur is better played as a Chlorophyll sweeper nowadays although it mandates Torkoal as a teammate. +2 Speed with Chlorophyll and a buffed Growth in sunlight are too good to ignore.
@@chaosgallade2331 I can ignore it, it's just not my play style
I prefer a balanced team approach, the kind that can handle anything when played well, with healing attacks being my specific thing
Honestly, if venusaur had calm mind, it'd be a benchwarmer for my team, overgrow stab giga drain, earth power for steel/poison types, black sludge and perfect accuracy toxic for its poison typing, only thing it lacks is personal status curing but i can overlook that and recognize the talents it balances
Number one in the Pokédex, number one in my heart ❤️
I'm so glad Gen 8 reunited all the Gen 1 starters. Charizard, Venusaur, and the turtle one.
One hour of my favorite Pokemon's competitive history? Let's fucking go!
The GOAT of starters in my heart
3:31 Wondering what kind of leaves Venusaur uses when it’s using Razor Leaf 👀
MY BOY VENUSAUR
Venusaur is my all time favorite pokemon, glad to see my og boy actually good in a majority of gens, especially vgc
Love that it’s stayed relevant all these years. Always been a favourite from the days of playing Red as a kid and only really using my starter, beating Koga by spamming cut 😂
I’m very interested in how Venusaur will do now that regulation H removes all restricted mons and paradox pokemon. It’s basically the only super strong sunny day user again, so I’m hoping it’s gonna have a very nice end to gen 9.
"Meganium is better than Venusaur" is a cursed statement
Bulbasaur has always been my favorite, I was hoping for this video!
Gonna be honest… I always thought the nickname of that Venusaur in the movie was actually “Frou Frou”
I've been waiting three whole years for this remake.
Can’t wait to see how well Venusaur will be alongside not just Groudon, but Koridon as well. Tera-fire is definitely going to be its most popular Tera-type.
Edit: Well, maybe Venusaur will get better once two restricted Pokemon become viable.
Learning that my favorite Gen 1 starter is a constant OU mon is one of the greatest discovery I ever found out upon getting into competitive pokemon
Venusaur is my generation 1 starter of choice, and I'm happy to see that it's the most consistently good generaion 1 starter across every generation. Venusaur's stats aren't mimaxxed like modern starters are, but its stat spread is incredibly versatile depending on what you want to do with it. Fast sun sweeper? You got it. Bulky tank? Go nuts. Doubles support? Why not? Venusaur may not be as deadly as Charizard or as bulky as Blastoise, but it can do both surprisingly well, one of the few successful jack-of-all-trades in all of Pokemon.
honestly, i would argue saur is way more bulky than stoise given its resistances. Water resists water, fire, steel, where only water and fire are kinda common. Grass has way more useful switchin resists like water, fighting, fairy, and an immunity to leech seed and toxic/ toxic spikes.
Love your vids fsg, deserve more subs for sure
Since the remake of older videos started, i was waiting for the starters to get their own videos. First Charizard, now Venusaur, and the next is Blastoise (i hope)
Very soon that the Blastoise remake of how good was it will be next as Blastoise became good in years onwards.
It's funny to me how well Venusaur pairs with various Gen 1 Pokemon like Ninetales and Dugtrio. Great fun for my favorite starter.
i find it funny that Venasaur became amazing with access to an effective fire move.
This one really grew on me over the years. I couldn't appreciate it as a kid who went all in on brute force, but it has a great capacity for passive damage, sabotage, and survival.
Just as a plant pokemon should be, I guess.
4:13 is that a Brian David Gilbert reference 👀
Terry is such a great nickname for a Tangela
FYI the Gen 7 VGC timestamp is actually for Gen 7 singles. The real timestamp is 39:49.
Watched it full. This line were my first Pokémon. Great video.
Ive been following your channel since 2017 I think, but this was the first time I watched a video since then!
I remember as kid everyone hated venusaur i never met a someone with one, its crazy how popular it is now because of competetive
I have watched this everyday since y’all dropped this
Finally another Kanto starter remake video. Proud of Venusaur's success despite it's supposed overlooked reputation from the fanbase for years.
Something tells me when the Blastoise remake video is made, it won't be as long or as positive unfortunately.
Blastoise definitely didn't get as big of a glowup but it is important in various lower tiers as a rapid spinner (which tends to be rarely available), has a decent mega, and a decent g-max that both had *some* success. It won't be as long but I still suspect it's going to be pushing towards an hour
6:55 this is the most wild comment I've ever heard from a FSG vid
Gen 1 Venusaur: I fear no man, but that thing; (Victreebel), it scares me.
Ready to see my Blastoise remake!
I am proud to say that Bulbasaur was my very first Pokemon ever back in the first generation.
I would love to see a video on the process for banning pokemon/restricting moves/abilities from tiers: basically just talking about who gets to decide what is banned, and maybe bringing up some examples of the most contentious bans in the past.
This is kind of inspired by your video you did on the fastest bans, which I really enjoyed! Speaking of which, this was another great video!
It was explained in that video though, each tier has a council of ~5-11 people (more usually if it's a more common tier like OU) that handle doing suspect tests or if something is very obviously too strong they decide to quickban it after holding a vote amongst themselves. Becoming a council member of any given tier usually involves proving to be very competent in that tier/previous generations of that tier
I once beat a M-Venasaur with a Bulky Lanturn with stall burn. The oponent was raging furious that the bulky staller got outbulked and stalled harder.
A great memory from Gen 6, but even then, this Mega monster was insanely powerfull at the time. Removing 2 weaknesses by just existing was outrageous, but still a great mon to face and have in a team.
I kinda wonder how far back this video's production goes, because the gen 1 section feels pretty dated. Venusaur has made a suprising resurgence in RBY OU in the past few years to the point where some people would genuinely place it as high as C tier in viability. Yes its generally outclassed by Victrebell due to Wrap being, well, gen 1 Wrap - but the discovery by players that its a better Swords Dance user than Victrebell that abuses sleep and para support really well has given it a real respected foothold in the meta that isn't a total gimmick.
I can't blame them for not being the most up to date with recent times for a video thats probably taken several months to a year of research given the length of the vid and detail that goes into these, but it does irk me to see them drop the ball on that section :/
^This.
I can only hope we are fast approaching the 30 minute long scrafty video my boy
Petal Blizzard
Protect
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Special Venusaur is better because its Special Attack is higher and it has 2 ways to deal with Steel Pokémon - Fire Weather Ball in sunlight and Earth Power. If you ever decide to use physical Venusaur, Power Whip is the better Grass STAB because of its significantly higher power and still usable enough accuracy.
50:45 I definitely did NOT expect a Pokémon Cypher reference in a FSG video but here we are 😂😂😂
Holy video length! Going to enjoy this over a few days haha 😆
Venu the goat! It was awesome seeing it win worlds in 2022 in the senior division with groudon and Zacian 🥰
I want to know more about Flutter Mane, it's a great Pokémon an incredible form of misdreavus
Must say, can’t wait for the Volcarona remake video.
1 hour 11 minutes of Venusaur? WE EATING GOOD, BOYS!
My first pokemon ever was Bulbasaur in Pokemon Red when I was 8
I, for one, welcome the return of the Swords Dance + Petal Blizzard meta.
Crazy how so old Pokemon's can still keep up, in this day and age power :) Give it some base stat boosts.
So I mean this as a compliment but I've watched them all awake but you have talked me to sleep for 4 months now thank you