I live in an apartment block, we have parking spaces but we can’t afford to install EV charging points. The nearest public charging points are a 2 miles away and only has 3 chargers. EV ownership would not be practical for me.
Very honest post. Apartment dwellers are not going to fare well with an EV compared to people like me. It only takes 10 seconds to plug in when I get home and my battery is full each morning. Cheap and easy for home owners.
What's killing EV industry. 1. exclusion of tax rebate for foreign made EVs. 2. price gouging by dealerships. +$5k~15k "dealer adjustment" on top of MSRP??? 3. lack of infrastructure to handle EVs 4. lack of $25k~35k price range EV for normal people
Are you that dumb? They are disposable, no resale value, the replacement battery cost more than the car plus you need to install it , only a moron would buy a used one.
I would, as long as the battery pack was checked with an OBD device via the car's diagnostic socket. This can provide a print-out of the battery's state of health in percentage terms. But of course if you didn't know this, then yes, you'd be buying blind......
@@keithb6717 But you posted that because you were completely unaware of battery pack refurbishments, which cost a fraction of the price of a new battery. A battery refurb might only cost the same as fitting a clutch in an ICE car. Keith, use some of that imagination of yours to do some research, and you'd discover much of the crap posted about electric cars, is just utter BS.
You can smell the desperation for dealers to shift EV's - 0% offers, large deposit contriubtions, and trade in deals. They never used to do this, but now it's commonplace. The problem is, it's everything about an EV that's puts most buyers off - they just have no interest in something that's going to make their life harder and more stressfull. When governments get involved in making decisions like this, you can bet it will go badly wrong. If EV's were competing fairly in an open market without subsidies, they'd fall flat on their face.
Except it doesn't make my life harder or more stressful. Why would it? I start each day with a full tank rhatbisn1/10th the cost of petrol, I can heat/cool it remotely, it's fast, helps local air pollution. The worst part is, on a long trip, I have to pay much more for electricity - still less then petrol through. The only downsides are having to explain to idiots over an diver again that the news they took as gospel is lying to them.
This was a funny video. 60-130k vehicles sitting on lots imagine that. Hyundai and Kia are rolling out sub 30k vehicles, with better range and more features and wonder why a 50-60k car sits on the lot.
I really like my Hyundai PHEV. Gas only mileage not great but combined is excellent even in the winter. There not for everyone but for me I have no complaints.
Both houses & cars have become too expensive for most Americans these days, most especially for single people and/or single-income households. Even a lot of 2 income households can't afford them.
"Do you want to pay more for your car, and have greater inconvenience, restrictions?" - not exactly a catchy sales statement, but its a true statement, which is why EV's are not selling.
@@Brian-om2hh Because of government regulations and tax dodging scams. Take those away and you'd have nothing. The UK is a tiny car market anyway and BEV are about 3% of that. Used BEV marrket in the UK is also in freefall, 50% Off after 2-3 years and still they don't sell.
Not to mention scrap metal resale value when it hits 100k on odometer or whatever year warranty expires. Who will pay any money for a car whose battery costs more then a car itself and could die at any given moment.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt Still a 15kE bill coming your way. But I get your comment and my response is: Great, Ill happily wait for industry of scale to catch up with batteries before jumping in.
@@curtisducati Yeah, main reason why i bought a new Hybrid Gasoline car recently. It takes me 1 minute to fill. Drive for many hours more and you don't need to care about charger locations. Gas stations is everywhere, and chargers isn't.
Do you remember when buying a car was likely to give you something that you could drive on any day in any weather and any distance without getting stuck in no mans land charging in a dodgy place having to hang around for 2 hours where you really don't want to be for your own safety? Where you could carry whatever you needed to and that you were not thinking about not being able to turn on the heater or the AC as you then won't get home? So sick and they are still allowed to advertise them! And that doesn't bring into question the distracting screens without any proper controls or the green issues where it is anything but green. Why do we put up with this sort of crap?
You forgot to mention the possibility of an EV battery pack bursting into flame, it could happen during charging, while it's parked, anywhere, any time. Also you didn't mention the addition cost of accident repairs, and auto insurance. Oh, and the insane depreciation on used EV's. Just saying.
Mainly the stealerships would rather sell you a gasser so they are going to keep talking down EVs and keep walking you back to the gassers. After all, they make more money on service than the initial sale. So the disconnect is the brands that sell via direct channels are not seeing this problem and the ones that use dealers.. are.
@@redwolfexr Exactly. In the 2 years that I've owned an EV, I've never had to go to the dealership for maintenance. There are so many less moving parts in the EV.
No you just want it to be. Doesn't mean its a financial disaster. For me it's the cheapest car i ever owned on a cost per mile basis. :) And you can "want" as much as u like that it will be a disaster. Doesn't mean it will. hahahahahah
It's hard to compete with Teslas. Especially when only Tesla has decent charging infrastructure. The key thing for EVs - is the ability to charge overnight at home. This is what some people don't understand. EVs are good when these two conditions are met: you can charge them at home and you use them mostly for city commutes, and rarely for road trips
I had to get rid of my tesla and I leased an Ioniq 6. 2 things: Don't buy electric vehicles because you don't know what the resale will be in a few years . if it wasn't for the fact that I get free fast charging I would have turned the car back in after only 2 months. The non tesla charger infrastructure is terrible!
Awesome experience when charging my Tesla at home, saves me money and time. But I wouldnt recommend an EV to someone in an apartment that has to rely on supercharging.
Agree Level 1 or Level 2 charging at home (or at work) is a must yet. That’s a dealbreaker for many. Inferior specs of non-Tesla EVs have not contributed to attracting new owners.
@@jimmyroute2085 .........Excellent post. But there is another extremely important consideration that is being totally overlooked [or deliberately ignored by car manufacturers, dealerships etc!] Battery life and performance! Very recent research has found that EV batteries can suffer more than a 50% drop in the amount of electric charge they can hold in just 2-3 years. [the 'fall off' varies from brand to brand - but one thing that is constant is that ALL EV's lose their charging capacity - and that this occurs relatively quickly]. The other 'unspoken' problem is that as EV batteries get older, they take progressively longer to charge. Whereas they will completely recharge overnight when new - it is much more likely that batteries will take considerably longer as they age. This has very serious implications on the resale values of EV's as well as insurance costs. In fact, in the UK motorists are demanding that all Car/EV manufacturers should [by law] publish factual details on the levels of degradation for [all] EV batteries/models and that it should be freely available. This is currently being discussed by the relevant authorities and consumer groups. However, it is yet another example of how badly this entire process has been thought through and implemented! Personally, and considering the huge initial cost outlay, lack of coverage of charging facilities, inconvenience, incredibly high levels of depreciation, degradation and cost of replacing a battery if it gets damaged - I would never ever buy one of these bloody things!
Things to love about EVs: 1. Child battery labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. Battery degredation 6. Poor resale value 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently But hey theres a tax credit!
@@zj10 well you need to pay road tax. Since you drive on the road. And the emissions it takes to charge you lovely EV create 174 parts carbon per mile versus a petrol creates 154 parts of carbon per mile. Study more clown when opening moth.
You would be lucky. I waited two weeks short of 14 months for a lousy Toyota Corolla Cross FWD mid-level vehicle here in Ontario Canada. I hear most are well over a year for most/ not all models. I will NEVER do it again. For sure.
Well if you would be fined if you sell too many combustion engine cars and not enough EVs you would do the same. A good handfull of the automakers will get bankrupt until 2030 if nothing changes and our governments are to blame.
How could the CEOs, etc of all of the manufacturers be so completely ignorant of the realities of EVs? There is nothing new that is known that wasn't always known. They are not qualified to be running an automotive manufacturing company.
The real issue is that automakers were forced by politicians to have a particular percentage of EVs produced within a certain time frame. If it wasn't for the politicians at the Federal level, state or local levels ramming info down their throats to increase production of EVs, automakers regardless of branding wouldn't be in this mess now with EV sales. Due to the fact that a mandate was issued (by 2030), automakers didn't have a lot of time to iron out the wrinkles for scenarios that we have seen with EVs. There are many, but to mention one that's common as of late would be EVs not performing well during frigid temperatures. The vast majority for the general public isn't ready for the EV switch. Like myself, they still prefer the ICE vehicles they're well accustomed to for decades. This past year 2023 I got a new vehicle. Back in July of 2023 I got the 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L in the Summit Reserve trim nicely equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 engine. Fuel efficiency doesn't bother me because this engine has the multi displacement system, which deactivates four of the eight cylinders during gradual driving. On some instances, this vehicle will run on just four cylinders depending on how you accelerate. As soon as you step on it, that's when all eight cylinders will be engaged.
The CEOs never wanted to invest the time and money into building EVs. They knew they wouldn't sell, but the government is forcing them to make the things.
Interestingly, EVs were around in the late 1800's and very early 1900's. High cost and short-range of battery electric vehicles, compared to internal combustion engine vehicles saw their decline (just like now).
It's not just these things mentioned here. People tend to forget that everything is way more expensive than it was a few years ago. Cars in general have become a luxury. A few years it was fairly simple for me to trade in my current car and get a new one, now it's borderline mission impossible in terms how much I'd have to add up. It's just not worth it any more.
@@free2roam674 wrong. Here i see more and more. They are super common in my country in Europe. Super chargers on every highway. Chargers everywhere, also employers are incentivized to place chargers for their employees. Like mine. We have 20+ 11kW chargers. And 2x 50kWDC chargers. Chargers are EVERYWHERE.
@@HermanWillems Yea this is my experience in my country as well. The side-walk installations are set to ramp up as well. So between solar home charging, side-walk chargers and battery innovations, EVs are now starting to ramp up. Even solar power in general is set to get cheaper and more efficient.
So you know nothing about EV's except whats being crammed down your throat. I lose 12% in the winter, nothing comes close to losing half it's range. The charging stations were not the problem. It was the amount of ppl that showed up without their cars preconditioned. When it's not preconditioned the energy must go towards heating the battery first. Charging was slowed down considerably and longer lines formed. Keep sucking down that big oil meanwhile I paid $10 last month.@@Rohoactr
EV's don't lose have their range. We lost 12% and it's worth it because the total cost is $10/month. It wasn't the car or the charger that stopped working. Stop believing everything you hear.@@Rohoactr
Legacy auto dealers are a nightmare for legacy auto makers. They gouged customers trying to buy electric vehicles. Legacy auto dealers abused their customers by adding market price adjustments to gouge their customers for EVs They added pricey add ons and other costs to pump up the prices and their profits. Tesla has the right idea. Buy online. No hassle. No sitting in a show room for hours. No salesman BS. No crazy markups. No I have to see my manager BS. With Tesla you can buy a vehicle in 5 minutes or less online. The dealers have no one to blame but themselves. The dealers are dragging the legacy auto makers down with them. The problem with legacy auto makers having slow sales leads back to the legacy auto dealers. They try to talk people out of buying and EV and want to put them in a gasoline car.
I own a electrical company in Germany. We now got a notification that homes will be stalled at 4kw at certain times per day Thats the case if you have electrical heating or a wallbox. You wanna now why? Our grid is not stable enough to support the amount of energy that is about to be used, due to that the grid already has to be controlled. We are far from a ev only situation, and because our grid that’s impossible
Is why government needs to be involved so that the system can be updated and augmented to handle the transition that is coming. Public money needs to be invested in moving in this direction, the energy for transportation needed is being distributed one way or another. It is much cheaper in even the near term to build out the necessary infrastructure and be at the cutting edge of the change. Set yourself up to reap the rewards of experience and hardware as other later comers switch over too.
@@Leo555ZZZWind and solar are fine, you litterally can't have too much. Those in combination with Nuclear is the path forward. Coal is a relic that has to go
@@sharper68 Wind and solar is unreliable and intermittent . It increases costs due to additional back up ,transmission and storage costs. That is why Germany now has some of the most expensive electricity in Europe , which is causing businesses to leave , consumers to struggle , and their economy to decline. Coal has enabled modern society to thrive , and it's use is continuing to increase every year because it is so cheap and reliable.
@@Leo555ZZZ Wind and solar are new. Your concerns are being mitigated as large capacity storage technology is innovated and costs drop. It is a one time investment that will get more viable and cheap over time. Germanies costs are currently high because of necessary infrastructure investment to meet their green house targets. An issue which has a grave and extensive costs associated with it impending, if they do nothing. There are real costs associated with not changing, they choose not to ignore them. Nuclear should be the back bone of the grid and coal should be dropped. The costs need to be absorbed because not do so has unbudgeted costs that are far greater. This is true even if those costs will not be paid next quarter. Getting off fossil fuel has tactical, foreign policy and trade benefits as well. Being energy independent is what all 1st world nations should now be shooting for. Germany is an example of leadership, they are investing today in power systems that have many ancillary benefits.
My 1st car was an Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. V8. A tank of a car. Loved it. Loved my Ford Escort and my Honda Prelude. Loved my Honda Accord Coupe EX and my Toyota Camry XLE. Now I love my Tesla Model 3. Drive what you love.
@@navret1707 so you are going to refuse SS and medicare when you are 65 are you? Don't need police, fire, power infrastructure, water, sewer? Reagan was an idiot when he pushed that anti-government message. Its easy to spout off, but nobody REALLY wants to live in anarchy.
@@navret1707 And yet, Reagan single-handedly destroyed the middle class in america, pretends he didn't know about the committed crimes by interfering with Nicaragua and the contras, then had the next guy of his cabinet become president and pardon all of them.
Said the failed HOLLYWEIRD actor (look up Nasty Nancys reputation) running for and winning government offices since the 60s, after his failed acting career. Explains current events, supporting maekup and hairspray goofs for decades😂
Bought two Tesla s to replace my expensive to maintain BMWs. BMWs were sporty to drive before EV came along, and just charge at home instead of stopping by gas station every 3 days and going to dealerships.
Who can afford a petrol or diesel car. When the Tax on it is much higher. And gasoline and diesel is so expensive ?? (My Tesla is the cheapest car i ever had.)
What about sitting on top of the lithium battery what are the effects of it on our body? If a cellphone is bad to keep close to the body what about this big a$$ battery. We don’t know yet the long term effects.
We have had our Tesla y for a month and it was the right fit for my family. Price was $38,500 ( with $7500 EV incentive )pre tax and title while we were comparing it to the Toyota Highlander. The Toyota dealers kept trying to force upgrades we didn’t want and charged around $45000 for the hybrid and their add ons. Our insurance with USAA went up about six dollars a month compared to our Toyota Camry insurance policy. Charging up at home for us comes out to $10.18 a charge as we pay .11 kWh for roughly 275-300 miles of travel. While testing the full self drive in Arizona it was absolutely amazing for us. Overall we are ecstatic with our purchase. Waking up with the car ready to go daily and never worrying about anything goes a long way to our peace of mind. P.S. the Hyundai and Toyota dealers were like sharks and made the experience so terrible that they basically drove us to look at polestar and Tesla. Polestar was to pricey for us for an SUV. Dealers were exhausting to deal while the Tesla buying experience was pulling out a phone and placing an order. While some people like the wheel and deal song and dance at a dealership, I’m not one of them.
Perhaps decent vehicles for certain places and people. I just hope it does not spontaneously combust in your garage or with your family locked in it. Teach your kids how to kick out the windows when the electric door locks fail. I would not take one for free. Why would anyone? They are dangerous.
@@free2roam674 Why are people so misinformed about this? Gas cars catch fire at a much higher rate than EVs and they spontaneously combust at a higher rate. It’s like a 10 to 1 difference. You are aware that gas is extremely flammable and that gas cars have electrical systems? Yes, EVs are harder to put out but once the materials in your house catch fire it’s really the burn rate of those materials that’s important. Get a EV if you want a lower risk of house fire.
what you saying is good for current situation.but long term when battery die ,how much for replacement? how much time you need to wait for repair for ev ? there is many story people never get back from dealers or manufactures proper solution or extremely delay for service. other thing when more ev is on road there will be more problem. electricity price go up last month itself ,you pair $10.18 for 275 mile..it may be sooner you have to. $80 or more .when most of us going to buy then it will be big problem for sure. gov and auto mfg need to build new system foresighted
@@diamond_h0us I live in Canada where we have long and cold winters. I travel in the winter to ski hills, often far from my home. I would not buy a BEV. However, I had a 2006 Prius and I loved it. I think an inner city scooter/motorbike with underseat swap able battery packs, like Gogoro, are a good idea. Either way if we are burning coal to make electricity then electric vehicles are no more green than ICE vehicles.
@@Brian-om2hh Might have to switch to a different liquid fuel in about 100 years, then switch to liquid fuel made from natural gas GTL fuel for the next 1,000 years and by then, maybe the battery will be ready and not a bomb.
How did you even find this video? Not for.everyone. Do what's best for you. I'll continue to enjoy my.$30/mo electricity vs $40/wk gas and no maintenance. No oil, etc. Only have the tires/brakes and inspections.
@@khalidhassan9423 Why would someone search for something that doesn’t interest them? It’s a matter of interpretation. Manufacturers overestimating demand for EVs despite the obscene cost of entry. Not shitting on EVs instead on the manufacturers giving us options to negotiate. Personally I am glad. I want more options. Despite companies and governments pushing EVs and climate change is absurd. They are arguably worse for the environment. It’s not viable and downright insane to contemplate forcing all electric. Besides you can’t have EVs without the other. Everything from manufacturing, charging, parts, etc needs fossil fuel and ICE.
I just renewed my insurance cover for my Kia EV for this year. It has risen by just £72. A friend of mine renewed his insurance on his Hyundai Kona EV 2 days ago. His had reduced in cost by 15%. Where are you reading this insurance crap? Which EV have you attempted to obtain insurance cover for, that had doubled? I call BS on your claim....
@@jakefriesenjakeInsurance has generally gone up across the board but my EV insurance hasn't doubled. This video is saying EV prices has dropped so insurance should be less theoretically (unless you believe the nonsense they all catch fire too).
I love my 2001 Ram Diesel. I spent nearly $5,000 on upgrades and maintenance. Sure beats $70,000 for an EV or another new truck! Best thing is that I own it and it'll do another 300,000 miles easily!
I have an electric vehicle and charging was never an issue for me, though its because i have a house and can charge overnight any day of the week. I can see how it can be a huge issue for people who can only charge their EV on public chargers though.
And you have a smaller secondary market to sell to for those very reasons you stated. Which of course reduces resell value. Lower demand. Did you consider that when you purchased your ev?
1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, not the car. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
The hell with pollution I'm not going to be here in 2 million years. The car should know everyone doesn't have $60,000 to spend on a car. Or home to install a charger port.
Most people can plug into 110 volt and that'll be more than enough to do their typical running around. All the stupid comments on here about they don't have more than a 300 Mi range. Just ask yourself when was the last time you drove 300 miles?. Most successful people have more than one vehicle anyway
The use of “ most people can plug in at home” is an absolute joke, most people cannot, most people do not live in a property that allows off street parking.
One of the problems with adoption was and is greed. Dealerships who thought they would squeeze customers by raising the MSRP screwed themselves in the long term. They offended so many customers that those customers, including myself, would never buy from them again, no matter the type of vehicle. The EV used market is, of course, not great because there isn't any real history yet. Countries other than the USA are doing well with EV sales. Sure the battery tech is still a bit behind, but manufacturers have started to put battery management devices that have changed the degradation in winter and in the long run. Because man has so polluted the globe and failed to implement changes, we need to adopt EVs that use batteries or use other forms of non polluting fuels that make electricity. We either save this world or just leave more death for those who come after us.
EV's are too expensive. Replacing the battery is ridiculously costly. I'm sure the average person would buy Toyota Corolla EV for 50K. Battery fires are a true concern.
cool story bro, but we all don't have the perfect 1980 Toyota truck. We have to get something new that works. "I still have my horse and carriage still going strong, don't need no automobile truck."
Every morning, I wake up to a fully charged car. It is reliable as long as you keep the car charged. It’s better if you have a charger at home rather than chasing down super charging stations. and no more stupid oil changes and mediocre maintenance made up to separate you from your money. I’ll let you guys know a little secret. You don’t need expensive charging unit. All you need to do is combine two circuit breakers into one which will turn 120v into 240 V. Then plug it in with the mobile connector that they give you for a Tesla and it will charge about 20 to 30 miles, and when you wake up in the morning, you have a fully charged car. Of course this has to be done by electrician.. in fact, most homes already have the 240 V charger or outlet. That is what you use for your dryer.
Lots os things people are not talking about EVs including the channel. The home insurance price increases when you add an EV Charger, my neighbor had a huge reality check (he owns 2 teslas and F150-lightning), he had 1 fast charge station and 1 normal charger, he wanted to add another fast charger when the Power Company (FPL) told him no, they cannot supply such an amount of power to a house, so he couldn`t do it with a fast charger so he just added another regular charger, when the Insurance Company came for a "annual review and renewal", added +20k USD to his annual insurance cost because he has 6 fire hazards in his garage, 3 electric vehicles and 3 charging stations. EVs are simply too much money, it`s not a "cost saving vehicle because no-gas", it`s literally every company trying to nickle and dimme their customers every step of the way.
Great video!!! Probably doesn’t help Hyundai and Kia only get the most expensive versions of their cars sent to them around here! I’ve never seen the base or the long range model here! I guess we are all RICH in Youngstown, Ohio!!!
I've seen poll after poll showing roughly 96% of Americans don't want EV's for a multitude of reasons. Auto makers should have paid attention and now they're stuck with theses 3-ton paper weights, and I don't feel a bit sorry for them.
The only reason people buy EV to be exact Teslas is home charging. If you don’t have an home charger public charging costs same as gas and you have less comfort. It’s a no brainer for Americans to keep driving on gas (no hybrid BS), and for Europeans to stay with more efficient diesel. The only good EV experience is Tesla if you want to do occasionally long distance trips.
There are at least twice as many unknown problems associated with EV ownership, than there are ones that are already known. The whole industry is already on life support, they just don’t want anyone to know it.
A friend of mine just bought a new mid-level trim Ioniq 5 for $8,000 below MSRP from a dealership in the Boston MetroWest area. He said the lot was packed with unsold EVs.
Price is all relative, needs to compare with what's selling on the market and which ones are eligible for federal incentive. Ioniq 5 MSRP is $41,800, so he picked it up for $33,800. But this has 220 range, too low for me. If the range is a priority even the top end model has 260 miles for AWD, lower than Tesla's Model Y AWD 310miles.
He did not get a good deal, he just got ripped off less. 220 mile range maybe at a steady 55 mph with the wind at your back. As long as you don't need heat or AC, I suppose it never gets hot or cold in Boston. Even if it is free, it is not a good deal. Do you want to put your Families' life at risk? Read the comments, many people get stranded. Do you want your wife or children getting stranded? Or burned up? The fact that any people still buy these shows how incredibly stupid people are.
@@free2roam674 For your reasoning people shouldn't fly or drive at all because there are stupid and drunk drivers out there. What happened to the actor in Fast and Furious?
Fact is the cars are far too expense for most people, add to that range anxiety and that there’s not a nationwide charging network (in the uk) and the 2nd hand market being flooded with far too many cars the ev market is pretty much dead. Prices of new cars need to drop, governments need to invest billions in public charging points and more nuclear power stations need to be built to generate the extra electricity needed to power everything.
Well between the high cost of battery replacements & potential fire .. it’s no wonder why they are still on the lot.. no thank you I’ll stick with my gasoline engines ..
You realize how stupid that sounds. There are far more fires in gasoline and hybrids. Batteries are expensive but covered for 10 years, same as a powertrain on most ICE cars.
A year ago, people would fight for certain models; the demand was so high that dealers couldn't keep up, all due to the high price of gasoline. Now it has come down, and the demand is lower. It only takes gasoline prices to rise again for the tide to turn. It's not because electricity is less popular, but because people wanted to save money on gasoline in the long term. I recently went to the Tesla dealership, and the place was so crowded that I had to park on the street. So, the moral of the story is, don't believe the detractors who think electricity has flopped because it hasn't. It's good news that dealers have a large stock; it will encourage them to lower their prices, and the value of raw materials will also decrease.
I had one, never again. Got stuck in traffic on a really hot day, had the aircon on the battery started going down and I was no where near a charge point, had to get rescued.😤
This never happened. EV's use barely any energy when stuck in traffic, maybe 2%. If you had everything at max maybe you would see a drop but c'mon EV's can run your house for up to 3 days and you want ppl to believe that being stuck for a few minutes drained your battery.
Let me guess, you've never owned or even driven an EV, and you just made up this story out of thin air. Among the many advantages of EV's is that they use no power when standing still, and almos no power while going at a crawl. So a traffic jam is NOT going to drain the battery. If you're stuck in a traffic jam and you're that worried about the battery, just turn of the AC, the same as I've had to do many times in my old ICE car when I was low on gas.
Interesting that Tesla is not on the list. Maybe because they build cars people want, are actually very reliable compared to the competition, can already access the nation's best charging network, and people tell their friends and family just how good the ownership experience is.
And yet Hertz put 20,000 of them back on the market (due to issues like charging them up for the next renter and not having enough chargers available around the clock) in the US recently, and lots are FB marketplace has literally 100s of them for sale in a lot of locations.
@@TheVoiceofReason4yaDid you see the mileage on the cars Hertz is selling? I've seen two year old Model 3s for sale by Hertz with 80k-100k miles on the cars. These cars spend more time on the road than they did sitting still. The real problem is Hertz was overwhelmed by customers wanting to rent them, they lost money on the cars since people were putting tons of miles on the cars, the depreciation was higher than expected as well as the repair costs. In my opinion, the EV rentals program was a success for the customer, but Hertz lost money on the program. Also, the rental offices weren't properly equipped to charge EVs quickly so customers got upset their rentals weren't fully charged (no full tank of gas) when they came to pick up the cars.
Silly, the government has been "helping" the oil companies for half a century, that they are helping promote a new tech now is not new and should not be surprising. Moving toward energy independence is a tactical and economic win.
Do people realize that in the last six years gasoline car sales have gone down about 18% in the United States. That’s about 4 million cars per year less in sales.
@@Brian-om2hh Pretty sure its due to government incentives. Here in germany subsidies where cut and EV share of car registration dropped by 50% from ~20% to around 10% of total registrations. The market for early adopters is saturated. There will be some that buy after their old EV or gas car dies but if there are no more incentives from the government or super cheap chinese cars I dont see the market goind up by a lot.
I went to a VW dealer looking for a GTI or Golf R, and this dealer had a big line of ID.4’s they couldn’t sell. Expensive to maintain, low range, hard to find charging, cars catching fire, you look like an Ahole of the neighborhood, cars not starting in cold weather etc. we aren’t ready for EV’s yet.
Expensive to maintain? That's definitely false and cars catching on fire is very rare ocations that it makes headlines. See that's what's wrong with yall, you something and you thing every eve blows up or catches on fire like it's a 4th of July, and where in the world you got info that it's more expensive to maintain ev than ice. There's no oil change or steering fluid,
@@i.d.6492 EV technology will is a new thing. I hear stories about it costing 5-20k hell some are 30k. That’s a lot of money for a car repair for most people. If one little cell fails, the whole battery needs to be replaced. EV’s may be the future, but right now in 2024, we aren’t ready for them yet.
@@peppapigthekiller7539 that's the thing " you hear stories". Bettery failure does happen here and there just like engine failures happen. Even if the repair cost is like $30K for bettery, YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE REPAIRS BECAUSE IT'S COVERED UNDER WARRANTY, so even if it's $100K cost, it's ZERO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET, so replace bettery and keep driving it. Situation like bettery failure is extremely rare compare the number of evs on the road today
@@i.d.6492 what if the battery goes bad after the warranty? Who’s covering you then. Plus, isn’t the point of electric cars to be cleaner alternative to gas powered cars? Kind of defeats the purpose considering battery producing is a dirty process.
@@peppapigthekiller7539 my dude.. if the battery goes bad after 10 years then that will be someone else's problem cause I don't drive old bangers anyway 😂 10 years warranty.. tell me an ICE car that gives you the same warranty for their components... There's none. You just got schooled by that guy and now you are pathetic talking about environment 😂 Sit down.
Depreciation for EVs still dropping like a stone, and will only get worse as dealers discount new EVs even more! Manufacturers should have listened to their customers and not woke eco nut jobs.
I recently watched a news report shown on Canadian TV about a motorist who had a Hyundai Ioniq EV which he bought for US$60,000. He was driving along a motorway ['Freeway'] when he didn't notice and ran over some debris left on the road. Although there was a loud 'bang' as he struck the debris, when he later stopped and inspected the car there didn't appear to be any serious damage. However, the owner felt it was best to have the car checked over professionally and took it into his local Hyundai dealership. Underneath the car is a large 'plate' which is fitted to protect the battery [I believe this is normal for EV's?] The plate had some deep gouges in it but more importantly, the access cover to the battery itself [which is located in the centre of the plate] was missing. On further examination, the Hyundai engineers concluded that the battery had suffered 'impact damage', resulting in a slight leak and needed to be replaced. The cost of a new battery? US$50,000! And due to the staggering levels of depreciation of EV's [despite the car being only two years old] the owner soon discovered that it was cheaper to buy a new car than replace the battery! I have long argued that EV's are the single biggest scam ever inflicted on motorists. This utterly inane belief that buying an EV is 'saving the planet' or helping the environment is complete BS. Electricity doesn't grow on trees or magically appear out of thin air. It needs to be manufactured. And where is it manufactured? In power stations. And where do power stations get their energy? From fossil fuels [such as coal, gas and petroleum] or nuclear fission. In effect, we are merely transferring the production of fuel [and with it the resulting pollution, degradation of the fuel source and environment etc] from one resource to another. And worse still, the levels of pollution etc are FAR greater when that fuel source is from power stations than is created by petrol or diesel-powered vehicles. But on top of this is the phenomenal initial cost of buying [and insuring] an EV, the unbelievable level of depreciation, hassle and inconvenience of EV's and now it seems, having to replace the battery on an EV if it gets damaged. No wonder car manufacturers [and people like Elon Musk] are rubbing their hands and making billions!! The other irony is that EV's are not a new idea. EV's have been around for over a century. So why didn't electricity become the main power source instead of fossil fuels? It sometimes amazes me how gullible we all are and that huge corporations can manipulate our thinking by simply tapping into a 'trend' or people's fears.
Roughly $120K in my portfolio are in tech/TSLA stocks, can I get an advice on any other stocks that I can acquire to diversify my reserve across multiple markets while creating a comprehensive portfolio allocation that balances my concerns of risk aversion and returns that meet yearly inflation.
Look for equities with yields that beat the market and shares that, over time, at least maintain a steady pace with the market. To ensure a prosperous long-term plan, I suggest consulting with a financial expert or broker.
Yes, I've been in constant touch with a Financial Analyst for approximately 8 months. You know, these days it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or keep. That's where my manager comes in, to help me with entry and exit points in the industries I'm engaged in. Can’t say I regret it, I’m 40% up in profits just in 5months with my initial capital of $160k.
One of the fiduciaries I deal with is Jennifer Lea Jenson. Just check the name. There would be a letter with the necessary information to set up an appointment.
Got rid of my 2023 chevy bolt last week needed car for work had to charge twice around 3hrs or more if the few charging stations were not being used. 3hrs lost of my life everyday day my stress level was thru the roof😢 now I'm so happy putting gas in my new Hybrid car no pluging with a f***** heavy hose. Now my family loves me again!😂
To look at EV depreciation, you have to reduce the price of the car by the amount of subsidies on it. If the car qualified for a $7500 federal tax credit and a $2500 state EV tax rebate, then the car is worth $10k less, thus the value after 1 year typically falls in line with other ICE vehicles. 2022 was an anomaly where as most car buyers paid over sticker for their cars, and thus depreciation was high across the board.
Says the man who has never actually owned one, so therefore knows all about them.. If EV's are a disaster, then how come the Tesla Model Y has become the World's best selling car?
@@Brian-om2hh You don't have to own a BEV to have an opinion on them. I love to keep you talking because you have probably driven more people away from a BEV than all the opinion comments you say people have No Right to Have.
Well, insane drop in value even after 3 years more than 50%, crazy loans and insurance values, easily adding over 50% to the costs just in 5 years, also questionable future regarding charging costs, battery health & tech ridiculous range drops in winter & highway speeds, I am sure there are 100s more reasons not to buy if you value your money & time.
The main additional reason is that they are not green at all. They do not emit pollutants when they drive but every single other thing about them is worse for the planet.
Im used to buying 4-5 year old cars with ~100k km on the click for around 50% of their initial costs. Then I drive them another 5-6 years and resell for around 20% of initial cost. Meaning on a 50kE car I spend around 25k buying and sell it for say, 10k. I lose around 15kE for 5-6 years of driving it. EV when out of warranty is valued whatever scrap / parts are valued. Battery when out of warranty can go bad at any moment and car is dead. Replacement battery costs more then car itself is worth. Imagine buying a same 5 year old EV for 50%, 25kE, after 2-3 years battery warranty is out. It dies, 20kE cost to replace. Total cost to you: 45kE. Resale value: 10k? 15?
It's a valuable information about some of these EV Vehicles are so unreliable , even worse after seeing Tesla can't charge their cars in a snow storm in the US. This is totally screwed up and need rescue from others , so embarrassing about EV graves .
EVs were a solution in need of a problem to solve. And supposed global “warming” is not the real problem. Consumer’s problem is cheap and convenient transportation. EVs are neither cheap nor convenient.
Status ..the new cool toy ..rich persons second vehicle....the poor suckers that have an EV as their primary source if transportation are out of a vehicle very often.....too cold..bad range...repair wait times..no parts... exorbitant cost on repair...broken charge stations... frequent lengthly stops for charging... depreciation....cost to buy etc.....too much aggravation to be the cool kid..😂😂
I get tired on constantly having to charge the Model Y. Stated range is 303, but not even close. They don’t tell you up front you only charge to 80-90% so now range is 240-270, but then only after nine months only getting 220-250 miles due to battery degradation. Then my 46 mile one way trip to work takes 58.7 miles of electricity. So now I have to at least partially charge each day where I was able to charge the car at first every 2.5 days…. I am thinking of selling. I have a 10 year old prius and it still gets 50-54 mpg and no maintenance except oil changes, tires, and wiper blades. I bought the Tesla since the cat was stolen and I waited a year for a replacement.
actually I work 12-14 hours a day and then every other day I need to drive at night on the way home to a Tesla supercharger, which the closest to my house is 15 miles away. I wait 30-40 minutes to charge to 90% as this is the daily max with Lithium ion batteries, best is only 80%. After charging , 30 minutes later I am home. So yeah it’s not as easy as you might think.
@@briankoch1121 infrastructure may not be there yet for everyone to fully benefit from electric cars but imo that doesn't mean that we should go backwards and think petrol/diesel are the alternative. New battery tech will replace everything we drive soon.
I am a tech enthusiast and would have jumped on an EV, but my old house only has on street parking, and my vacation place has a parking garage where they can’t have chargers unless everyone in the building paid $2000 to make the it “charger ready” (and then I would still need to spend another $2000 to actually install a charger). I guess my next car will be a hybrid!
*Electric car owners, tesla, bmw, or low quality korean ones, no matter which brand, you name it, are getting F ed in resale value every day. Not to mention any time there is a problem, their car is totaled. Lmfao…*
Until the recent price cut by Tesla, my car was holding its value better than any other car I've ever bought. Two years after purchase I could have sold it for 90% of what I paid for it. Most cars drop 15% when you drive them off the lot. Resale value definitely dropped when Tesla announced price cuts across its line.
I had a minor problem with a seat belt warning sensor on my Kia EV. It wasn't totalled, it was repaired in around 30 minutes, at no charge to me, as it came with a 7 year warranty. Resale value is irrelevant if you lease instead of buying.....
@@Brian-om2hh Leasing a BEV in the future, like from Now on, will be very expensive because they will calculate lower value at end of lease. Maybe you lucked out but count no man lucky until he is dead, and there are many more pitfalls ahead you must dodge.
Problem is that most people who buy EVs are smarter than you guys. If you buy an ev for 40k save £2k a year on gas every year for 10 years, it doesn’t matter if your car has depreciated by a few k more than an ice car.
Bought a virtually new one in current year with minimal miles on the clock about 33% less than out the box price. 😂 Serene peaceful drive , half price fuel costs with overnight home charge and nearly 4 seconds quicker 0-60 mph versus my previous ice car. Peeps say they think the ice cars pollution is political hogwash . TRY THIS if you dare . Put my ev in the garage and close all exit doors . Turn on the power and leave it running or on , take a meal and drinks and a cosy chair placing it by the rear of the ev . Now do the same with z ice engine car and see if you manage to enjoy your meal , be lucky if you can stand after several hours , POLLUTION A EXAGGERATION , really. Lol 😅
There's more to the story, believe me... 1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
Lmao do you know that you don’t have to charge at public chargers? My neighbor plug in their model y at home when they need to charge it my close family member own a model y when he does errands when he need to charge he go home and plug it in smh and my cousin he charge it at home when he need to if people too lazy to charge at home then don’t complain.
@@vce.john1734 lmao... So they must have a driveway, or a parking spot or a garage with electricity near by. Many, many people park their cars on the road or a parking garage with no electricity. Illegal to run a cord to the road, especially across the street. Cause half the year, you usually park on the other side of the road. 🤣🤣 What then???
Which EV have you owned that gave you major problems? Why do you suppose sales of new EV's in the UK are up 21% in January, over the same period last year? Were you even aware that around 300 ICE cars catch fire in Britain each day? Or that the NTSB in the US, recorded 190'000 ICE car fires during 2022?
2015 Model S my daughter bought was nothing but problems . After her dealings with customer service and the Service center I don't see any more Tesla's in our family..
Oh. I want one. But I have to wait 3-4 months for it - BYD can't make them fast enough. No stock piles here😢 no cheap 2nd EV either. In USA I'd buy a used Chevy Bolt
No one wants an EV and yet I see them all over the place. It's funny I've actually seen same exact videos of dealerships can't get rid of ice vehicles and there are so many of them out there
What's killing the EV industry in the USA 1. exclusion of tax rebate for foreign-made EVs. Answer This is protectionism of the worst kind, the US Administration should get a grip. 2. price gouging by dealerships. +$5k~15k "dealer adjustment" on top of MSRP??? Answer 2 and 4 US manufacturers still think that folk need a '56 Chevrolet' rather than a compact 4. lack of $25k~35k price range EV for normal people 3. lack of infrastructure to handle EVs In Europe, we started like this, but today lots of multi-vehicle charging hubs are springing up
I live in an apartment block, we have parking spaces but we can’t afford to install EV charging points. The nearest public charging points are a 2 miles away and only has 3 chargers. EV ownership would not be practical for me.
Very honest post. Apartment dwellers are not going to fare well with an EV compared to people like me. It only takes 10 seconds to plug in when I get home and my battery is full each morning. Cheap and easy for home owners.
Sucks for the poors, eh@@Lovingkindness.
You are not the only one. For many, many others, EV are not practical especially in this garbage of an economy.
I have a home but the nearest charging station is at least 20 miles away. And I use my truck for heavy duty farm chores and towing. No thanks.
@@Republicanmouse Stop thinking about EVs and focus more on getting electricity to your house.
What's killing EV industry.
1. exclusion of tax rebate for foreign made EVs.
2. price gouging by dealerships. +$5k~15k "dealer adjustment" on top of MSRP???
3. lack of infrastructure to handle EVs
4. lack of $25k~35k price range EV for normal people
Hyundai has an ev that is 25k
Gouging
@@joannyesia7460No dealer sells it for $25k
Are you that dumb? They are disposable, no resale value, the replacement battery cost more than the car plus you need to install it , only a moron would buy a used one.
Plus, they’re junk.
would you buy a second-hand EV with an older battery? not me
l would the depreciation on evs will make it worth it, you will lose some range, but they will make an excellent second car
I imagine that when the battery dies most of these cars will be free and still not worth the investment of a new battery.
@@keithb6717 it depends on the replacement battery prices, as of today its a no no, but who knows what tomorrow may bring
I would, as long as the battery pack was checked with an OBD device via the car's diagnostic socket. This can provide a print-out of the battery's state of health in percentage terms. But of course if you didn't know this, then yes, you'd be buying blind......
@@keithb6717 But you posted that because you were completely unaware of battery pack refurbishments, which cost a fraction of the price of a new battery. A battery refurb might only cost the same as fitting a clutch in an ICE car. Keith, use some of that imagination of yours to do some research, and you'd discover much of the crap posted about electric cars, is just utter BS.
Really miss the cars market 10 years ago!
China will rule the world
aren't these the same dealers that were having their way with you on car pricing and markups a couple years back ...?
It's hard to have sympathy for those greedy jerks who are still jacking up prices on popular cars like the Ford Maverick.
Karma is a biatch
Yah, paybacks a bitch! They can sit on their 6 months of inventory !!!
Exactly right
I agree, all the extra profits they made they will now lose in discounts
You can smell the desperation for dealers to shift EV's - 0% offers, large deposit contriubtions, and trade in deals. They never used to do this, but now it's commonplace. The problem is, it's everything about an EV that's puts most buyers off - they just have no interest in something that's going to make their life harder and more stressfull. When governments get involved in making decisions like this, you can bet it will go badly wrong. If EV's were competing fairly in an open market without subsidies, they'd fall flat on their face.
Except it doesn't make my life harder or more stressful. Why would it? I start each day with a full tank rhatbisn1/10th the cost of petrol, I can heat/cool it remotely, it's fast, helps local air pollution. The worst part is, on a long trip, I have to pay much more for electricity - still less then petrol through.
The only downsides are having to explain to idiots over an diver again that the news they took as gospel is lying to them.
Not dealers, or manufactures desperate. The government is. In the EU, they are considering, at this moment, forced scrapping of old cars.
@fungames24 that would be theft and I'd like them come try to see and take my perfectly running 2013 car with 130km
Except for Tesla.
If politicians were successful businessmen they wouldn’t be politicians.
This was a funny video. 60-130k vehicles sitting on lots imagine that. Hyundai and Kia are rolling out sub 30k vehicles, with better range and more features and wonder why a 50-60k car sits on the lot.
Did you not watch the video? Hyundai and Kia vehicles made the list, though not the top, still really bad.
comprehension is not the strong suit of these people @@robertkubrick3738
I really like my Hyundai PHEV. Gas only mileage not great but combined is excellent even in the winter. There not for everyone but for me I have no complaints.
Even the Hyundais and Kia EVs aren't selling. They have the same drawbacks other EVs do.
Both houses & cars have become too expensive for most Americans these days, most especially for single people and/or single-income households. Even a lot of 2 income households can't afford them.
"Do you want to pay more for your car, and have greater inconvenience, restrictions?" - not exactly a catchy sales statement, but its a true statement, which is why EV's are not selling.
New EV sales 21% up in January in the UK over the same period last year....
@@Brian-om2hh Because of government regulations and tax dodging scams. Take those away and you'd have nothing. The UK is a tiny car market anyway and BEV are about 3% of that. Used BEV marrket in the UK is also in freefall, 50% Off after 2-3 years and still they don't sell.
@@Brian-om2hh You mean registrations are up, very different to actual sales.
Tesla look like they are really struggling mate.
@@robertkubrick3738this is just a paragraph of complete lies. You lot are nuts.
What were they expecting.The working man can’t afford an electric vehicle,the cost of replacement tyres and the high cost of insurance
Not to mention scrap metal resale value when it hits 100k on odometer or whatever year warranty expires.
Who will pay any money for a car whose battery costs more then a car itself and could die at any given moment.
@@123batina People will pay $5k for the battery to recycle the components, it´s a growing business.
@@robertwoodhouse-bm7kt Still a 15kE bill coming your way. But I get your comment and my response is: Great, Ill happily wait for industry of scale to catch up with batteries before jumping in.
They are rubbish to own , having to wait an hour at a charger ? Adds 2 hours on a commute ??? OMG ......
@@curtisducati Yeah, main reason why i bought a new Hybrid Gasoline car recently. It takes me 1 minute to fill. Drive for many hours more and you don't need to care about charger locations. Gas stations is everywhere, and chargers isn't.
Do you remember when buying a car was likely to give you something that you could drive on any day in any weather and any distance without getting stuck in no mans land charging in a dodgy place having to hang around for 2 hours where you really don't want to be for your own safety? Where you could carry whatever you needed to and that you were not thinking about not being able to turn on the heater or the AC as you then won't get home? So sick and they are still allowed to advertise them! And that doesn't bring into question the distracting screens without any proper controls or the green issues where it is anything but green. Why do we put up with this sort of crap?
You forgot to mention the possibility of an EV battery pack bursting into flame, it could happen during charging, while it's parked, anywhere, any time. Also you didn't mention the addition cost of accident repairs, and auto insurance. Oh, and the insane depreciation on used EV's. Just saying.
GREEN IS END GAMES TO DEVELOPEMENTS!
Bullshit.@@Ozvideo1959
@@juliandavies7890 Really, all the things I said about EV's are well documented facts, from the real world.
I have to save this comment because it's totally correct and perfect put.
This EV saga is turning into the epic financial disaster we always knew it would be.
Mandated, aided and abetted by your government.
@@adotintheshark4848 Better hoard all these gas cars before they're outlawed.
Mainly the stealerships would rather sell you a gasser so they are going to keep talking down EVs and keep walking you back to the gassers.
After all, they make more money on service than the initial sale. So the disconnect is the brands that sell via direct channels are not seeing this problem and the ones that use dealers.. are.
@@redwolfexr Exactly. In the 2 years that I've owned an EV, I've never had to go to the dealership for maintenance. There are so many less moving parts in the EV.
No you just want it to be. Doesn't mean its a financial disaster. For me it's the cheapest car i ever owned on a cost per mile basis. :) And you can "want" as much as u like that it will be a disaster. Doesn't mean it will. hahahahahah
Hoover should make EVs, as they already have knowledge of making things that suck.
😅😅😅😅😅😅
kevinwhite9081 sucks way way worse
Those old 60's Mustangs were a bit like a vacuum cleaner - when you were out cruising you always picked up a bit of fluff.
Hoover just slapped their brand name on someone else's creation.
😂
We stopped trying to sell EVs 6 months ago
It's hard to compete with Teslas. Especially when only Tesla has decent charging infrastructure.
The key thing for EVs - is the ability to charge overnight at home. This is what some people don't understand. EVs are good when these two conditions are met: you can charge them at home and you use them mostly for city commutes, and rarely for road trips
I had to get rid of my tesla and I leased an Ioniq 6.
2 things: Don't buy electric vehicles because you don't know what the resale will be in a few years .
if it wasn't for the fact that I get free fast charging I would have turned the car back in after only 2 months. The non tesla charger infrastructure is terrible!
Awesome experience when charging my Tesla at home, saves me money and time. But I wouldnt recommend an EV to someone in an apartment that has to rely on supercharging.
Agree Level 1 or Level 2 charging at home (or at work) is a must yet. That’s a dealbreaker for many. Inferior specs of non-Tesla EVs have not contributed to attracting new owners.
@@jimmyroute2085 .........Excellent post. But there is another extremely important consideration that is being totally overlooked [or deliberately ignored by car manufacturers, dealerships etc!] Battery life and performance!
Very recent research has found that EV batteries can suffer more than a 50% drop in the amount of electric charge they can hold in just 2-3 years. [the 'fall off' varies from brand to brand - but one thing that is constant is that ALL EV's lose their charging capacity - and that this occurs relatively quickly].
The other 'unspoken' problem is that as EV batteries get older, they take progressively longer to charge. Whereas they will completely recharge overnight when new - it is much more likely that batteries will take considerably longer as they age. This has very serious implications on the resale values of EV's as well as insurance costs.
In fact, in the UK motorists are demanding that all Car/EV manufacturers should [by law] publish factual details on the levels of degradation for [all] EV batteries/models and that it should be freely available. This is currently being discussed by the relevant authorities and consumer groups. However, it is yet another example of how badly this entire process has been thought through and implemented!
Personally, and considering the huge initial cost outlay, lack of coverage of charging facilities, inconvenience, incredibly high levels of depreciation, degradation and cost of replacing a battery if it gets damaged - I would never ever buy one of these bloody things!
Plus all EV;s are UGLY.
Things to love about EVs:
1. Child battery labor
2. Range anxiety
3. Risk of garage fires
4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle
5. Battery degredation
6. Poor resale value
7. Reduced performance in cold, highway
8. Higher repair costs
9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms
10. Higher insurance rates
11. Replacing tires more frequently
But hey theres a tax credit!
Yeah, we get it... you don't like ev's. Now, jog on ol mate!
The level of misinformation is high with this one
This guy would love to pay 20x the liftime fees of gas and maintenance/repairs. In the end, its still cheaper to own an EV 🤣🤣
@@zj10 well you need to pay road tax. Since you drive on the road. And the emissions it takes to charge you lovely EV create 174 parts carbon per mile versus a petrol creates 154 parts of carbon per mile. Study more clown when opening moth.
It’s a good list. I’d add ze agenda and serving ze overlords to that list. It’s an evil scam.
If only those same manufacturers were building the models that actually sell, we wouldn't be waiting 9 months for our new cars.
You would be lucky.
I waited two weeks short of 14 months for a lousy Toyota Corolla Cross FWD mid-level vehicle here in Ontario Canada.
I hear most are well over a year for most/ not all models.
I will NEVER do it again. For sure.
They have to use part of that time building EVs by government mandate. Blame the folks you voted for, not the manufacturers.
Well if you would be fined if you sell too many combustion engine cars and not enough EVs you would do the same.
A good handfull of the automakers will get bankrupt until 2030 if nothing changes and our governments are to blame.
How could the CEOs, etc of all of the manufacturers be so completely ignorant of the realities of EVs? There is nothing new that is known that wasn't always known. They are not qualified to be running an automotive manufacturing company.
The real issue is that automakers were forced by politicians to have a particular percentage of EVs produced within a certain time frame. If it wasn't for the politicians at the Federal level, state or local levels ramming info down their throats to increase production of EVs, automakers regardless of branding wouldn't be in this mess now with EV sales. Due to the fact that a mandate was issued (by 2030), automakers didn't have a lot of time to iron out the wrinkles for scenarios that we have seen with EVs. There are many, but to mention one that's common as of late would be EVs not performing well during frigid temperatures. The vast majority for the general public isn't ready for the EV switch. Like myself, they still prefer the ICE vehicles they're well accustomed to for decades. This past year 2023 I got a new vehicle. Back in July of 2023 I got the 2023 Jeep Grand Cherokee L in the Summit Reserve trim nicely equipped with the 5.7 liter HEMI V8 engine. Fuel efficiency doesn't bother me because this engine has the multi displacement system, which deactivates four of the eight cylinders during gradual driving. On some instances, this vehicle will run on just four cylinders depending on how you accelerate. As soon as you step on it, that's when all eight cylinders will be engaged.
They knew all of this well ahead of time. PT Barnum remains correct.
The CEOs never wanted to invest the time and money into building EVs. They knew they wouldn't sell, but the government is forcing them to make the things.
Interestingly, EVs were around in the late 1800's and very early 1900's. High cost and short-range of battery electric vehicles, compared to internal combustion engine vehicles saw their decline (just like now).
@@jefferybaxter1225 No sympathy! They voted for corrupt trash 🚮 democrats!
It's not just these things mentioned here. People tend to forget that everything is way more expensive than it was a few years ago. Cars in general have become a luxury. A few years it was fairly simple for me to trade in my current car and get a new one, now it's borderline mission impossible in terms how much I'd have to add up. It's just not worth it any more.
And that was always the globalist agenda.
The keyword is dealer; why pay more at a dealer if you can buy Tesla direct?
Tesla's still have all of the BEV drawbacks. They might be the last to fail, but pure EV's are already on their way out.
@@free2roam674 wrong. Here i see more and more. They are super common in my country in Europe. Super chargers on every highway. Chargers everywhere, also employers are incentivized to place chargers for their employees. Like mine. We have 20+ 11kW chargers. And 2x 50kWDC chargers. Chargers are EVERYWHERE.
This guy gets it. Who is going to pay for insanely marked up vehicle?
Ask Hertz rentals.....😂😂
@@HermanWillems Yea this is my experience in my country as well. The side-walk installations are set to ramp up as well. So between solar home charging, side-walk chargers and battery innovations, EVs are now starting to ramp up.
Even solar power in general is set to get cheaper and more efficient.
A couple of weeks ago when Chicago was experiencing very cold weather, many electric vehicles were not working.
What do you mean not working? That's not what happened
@cblue in extreme cold weather. Charging stations are not functioning. EV also will lose half of its travel range
So you know nothing about EV's except whats being crammed down your throat. I lose 12% in the winter, nothing comes close to losing half it's range. The charging stations were not the problem. It was the amount of ppl that showed up without their cars preconditioned. When it's not preconditioned the energy must go towards heating the battery first. Charging was slowed down considerably and longer lines formed. Keep sucking down that big oil meanwhile I paid $10 last month.@@Rohoactr
EV's don't lose have their range. We lost 12% and it's worth it because the total cost is $10/month. It wasn't the car or the charger that stopped working. Stop believing everything you hear.@@Rohoactr
@@cblue3581 what part of not working don't you understand?????
Legacy auto dealers are a nightmare for legacy auto makers. They gouged customers trying to buy electric vehicles.
Legacy auto dealers abused their customers by adding market price adjustments to gouge their customers for EVs
They added pricey add ons and other costs to pump up the prices and their profits.
Tesla has the right idea. Buy online. No hassle. No sitting in a show room for hours. No salesman BS. No crazy markups.
No I have to see my manager BS. With Tesla you can buy a vehicle in 5 minutes or less online. The dealers have no one to blame but themselves. The dealers are dragging the legacy auto makers down with them. The problem with legacy auto makers having slow sales leads back to the legacy auto dealers. They try to talk people out of buying and EV and want to put them in a gasoline car.
Toyota was right!
I own a electrical company in Germany.
We now got a notification that homes will be stalled at 4kw at certain times per day
Thats the case if you have electrical heating or a wallbox.
You wanna now why?
Our grid is not stable enough to support the amount of energy that is about to be used, due to that the grid already has to be controlled.
We are far from a ev only situation, and because our grid that’s impossible
Is why government needs to be involved so that the system can be updated and augmented to handle the transition that is coming.
Public money needs to be invested in moving in this direction, the energy for transportation needed is being distributed one way or another.
It is much cheaper in even the near term to build out the necessary infrastructure and be at the cutting edge of the change. Set yourself up to reap the rewards of experience and hardware as other later comers switch over too.
Too much wind and solar , not enough coal and nuclear.
@@Leo555ZZZWind and solar are fine, you litterally can't have too much. Those in combination with Nuclear is the path forward. Coal is a relic that has to go
@@sharper68 Wind and solar is unreliable and intermittent . It increases costs due to additional back up ,transmission and storage costs. That is why Germany now has some of the most expensive electricity in Europe , which is causing businesses to leave , consumers to struggle , and their economy to decline.
Coal has enabled modern society to thrive , and it's use is continuing to increase every year because it is so cheap and reliable.
@@Leo555ZZZ Wind and solar are new. Your concerns are being mitigated as large capacity storage technology is innovated and costs drop. It is a one time investment that will get more viable and cheap over time.
Germanies costs are currently high because of necessary infrastructure investment to meet their green house targets. An issue which has a grave and extensive costs associated with it impending, if they do nothing. There are real costs associated with not changing, they choose not to ignore them.
Nuclear should be the back bone of the grid and coal should be dropped. The costs need to be absorbed because not do so has unbudgeted costs that are far greater. This is true even if those costs will not be paid next quarter.
Getting off fossil fuel has tactical, foreign policy and trade benefits as well. Being energy independent is what all 1st world nations should now be shooting for. Germany is an example of leadership, they are investing today in power systems that have many ancillary benefits.
My 1st car was an Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. V8. A tank of a car. Loved it. Loved my Ford Escort and my Honda Prelude. Loved my Honda Accord Coupe EX and my Toyota Camry XLE. Now I love my Tesla Model 3. Drive what you love.
"I'm from the government, I'm here to help."
“The government doesn’t fix problems, the government is the problem.” Ronald Regan
@@navret1707 so you are going to refuse SS and medicare when you are 65 are you?
Don't need police, fire, power infrastructure, water, sewer?
Reagan was an idiot when he pushed that anti-government message. Its easy to spout off, but nobody REALLY wants to live in anarchy.
My favourite line from history.
@@navret1707 And yet, Reagan single-handedly destroyed the middle class in america, pretends he didn't know about the committed crimes by interfering with Nicaragua and the contras, then had the next guy of his cabinet become president and pardon all of them.
Said the failed HOLLYWEIRD actor (look up Nasty Nancys reputation) running for and winning government offices since the 60s, after his failed acting career. Explains current events, supporting maekup and hairspray goofs for decades😂
Who can afford a very expensive ev when you have a prefectly petrol or diesel vehicle in the driveway ?
Bought two Tesla s to replace my expensive to maintain BMWs. BMWs were sporty to drive before EV came along, and just charge at home instead of stopping by gas station every 3 days and going to dealerships.
good luck in winter@@Trust_but_Verify
This is the truth. It's so easy to just plug it in when I get home. @@Trust_but_Verify
@@Trust_but_Verify Not every classical car is expensive to maintain!!
Who can afford a petrol or diesel car. When the Tax on it is much higher. And gasoline and diesel is so expensive ?? (My Tesla is the cheapest car i ever had.)
People who would buy a good used ICE won't touch a EV without warranty.
I'll never buy used ice
The governments need to be held accountable for this EV graveyards:! Talk about disturbing to all the pollution in these deadly batteries.
@@truckerwayne google joe rogan cobalt and it takes you to a 14 minute video on slave labor digging the EV Metals, suffering an̈d dying
@@markmiller8903Thanks I'll check it out.
What about sitting on top of the lithium battery what are the effects of it on our body? If a cellphone is bad to keep close to the body what about this big a$$ battery. We don’t know yet the long term effects.
We have had our Tesla y for a month and it was the right fit for my family. Price was $38,500 ( with $7500 EV incentive )pre tax and title while we were comparing it to the Toyota Highlander. The Toyota dealers kept trying to force upgrades we didn’t want and charged around $45000 for the hybrid and their add ons. Our insurance with USAA went up about six dollars a month compared to our Toyota Camry insurance policy. Charging up at home for us comes out to $10.18 a charge as we pay .11 kWh for roughly 275-300 miles of travel. While testing the full self drive in Arizona it was absolutely amazing for us. Overall we are ecstatic with our purchase. Waking up with the car ready to go daily and never worrying about anything goes a long way to our peace of mind.
P.S. the Hyundai and Toyota dealers were like sharks and made the experience so terrible that they basically drove us to look at polestar and Tesla. Polestar was to pricey for us for an SUV. Dealers were exhausting to deal while the Tesla buying experience was pulling out a phone and placing an order. While some people like the wheel and deal song and dance at a dealership, I’m not one of them.
Perhaps decent vehicles for certain places and people. I just hope it does not spontaneously combust in your garage or with your family locked in it. Teach your kids how to kick out the windows when the electric door locks fail. I would not take one for free. Why would anyone? They are dangerous.
@@free2roam674 Why are people so misinformed about this? Gas cars catch fire at a much higher rate than EVs and they spontaneously combust at a higher rate. It’s like a 10 to 1 difference. You are aware that gas is extremely flammable and that gas cars have electrical systems? Yes, EVs are harder to put out but once the materials in your house catch fire it’s really the burn rate of those materials that’s important. Get a EV if you want a lower risk of house fire.
what you saying is good for current situation.but long term when battery die ,how much for replacement? how much time you need to wait for repair for ev ? there is many story people never get back from dealers or manufactures proper solution or extremely delay for service. other thing when more ev is on road there will be more problem. electricity price go up last month itself ,you pair $10.18 for 275 mile..it may be sooner you have to. $80 or more .when most of us going to buy then it will be big problem for sure. gov and auto mfg need to build new system foresighted
@@diamond_h0us I live in Canada where we have long and cold winters. I travel in the winter to ski hills, often far from my home. I would not buy a BEV. However, I had a 2006 Prius and I loved it. I think an inner city scooter/motorbike with underseat swap able battery packs, like Gogoro, are a good idea. Either way if we are burning coal to make electricity then electric vehicles are no more green than ICE vehicles.
no electric car for me. i will stay with gas
Will you even stay with gas once there isn't any?
@@Brian-om2hh Might have to switch to a different liquid fuel in about 100 years, then switch to liquid fuel made from natural gas GTL fuel for the next 1,000 years and by then, maybe the battery will be ready and not a bomb.
@@Brian-om2hhnever happen 🤡
@@Brian-om2hhwe will all be long dead before gas dries up
do you own a brain??
I will NEVER own an EV.
Same here
Absolute garbage!
How did you even find this video? Not for.everyone. Do what's best for you. I'll continue to enjoy my.$30/mo electricity vs $40/wk gas and no maintenance. No oil, etc. Only have the tires/brakes and inspections.
@@jerimiah_ywdym how did he find this video? the title of the video itself is shitting on EVs let alone the actual video
@@khalidhassan9423 Why would someone search for something that doesn’t interest them?
It’s a matter of interpretation. Manufacturers overestimating demand for EVs despite the obscene cost of entry. Not shitting on EVs instead on the manufacturers giving us options to negotiate.
Personally I am glad. I want more options. Despite companies and governments pushing EVs and climate change is absurd. They are arguably worse for the environment. It’s not viable and downright insane to contemplate forcing all electric.
Besides you can’t have EVs without the other. Everything from manufacturing, charging, parts, etc needs fossil fuel and ICE.
Just want to add insurance companies have also doubled their prices for ev vehicles. Had to get rid of mine because of this
LOL😆😆😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
My rates have only gone up marginally in the last 3 years (< 5%).
I just renewed my insurance cover for my Kia EV for this year. It has risen by just £72. A friend of mine renewed his insurance on his Hyundai Kona EV 2 days ago. His had reduced in cost by 15%. Where are you reading this insurance crap? Which EV have you attempted to obtain insurance cover for, that had doubled? I call BS on your claim....
@@Brian-om2hhin the UK, it has doubled and trippled in price
@@jakefriesenjakeInsurance has generally gone up across the board but my EV insurance hasn't doubled. This video is saying EV prices has dropped so insurance should be less theoretically (unless you believe the nonsense they all catch fire too).
I love my 2001 Ram Diesel. I spent nearly $5,000 on upgrades and maintenance. Sure beats $70,000 for an EV or another new truck! Best thing is that I own it and it'll do another 300,000 miles easily!
Damn I wish I was that poor so I could be proud of owning a piece of shit too 😂
@@777jrga swing & a miss.
I have an electric vehicle and charging was never an issue for me, though its because i have a house and can charge overnight any day of the week.
I can see how it can be a huge issue for people who can only charge their EV on public chargers though.
And you have a smaller secondary market to sell to for those very reasons you stated. Which of course reduces resell value. Lower demand. Did you consider that when you purchased your ev?
@simonbagel I mean resell value was never an issue for me, but I can understand how that can be a deal breaker for many people.
@@SuperJosteenEverything is fine until one day that battery catches fire and your house burns down. Good luck.
This EV hype will fade into history soon!
1. Child battery mineral labor
2. Range anxiety
3. Risk of garage fires
4. Paying 20k more than a
comparable vehicle
5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration.
6. Poor resale value
7. Reduced performance in
cold, highway.
8. Higher repair costs
9. Awful charging network
experiences in the weather
without restrooms
10. Higher insurance rates
11. Replacing tires more
frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution.
12. Death by autopilot
13. $25k - $35k battery
14. Low km range per tank of energy.
15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs
to charge.
16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging.
17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm.
18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die.
19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road)
20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid.
21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, not the car.
22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals.
23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries.
24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down.
25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium.
26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage....
27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out.
28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire.
29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear.
30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better.
31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff.
32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car.
33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm.
34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money.
35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery.
36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already.
37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.)
38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money.
39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above.
40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in.
41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation.
42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere.
Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
😂😂😂😂Tesla model Y was the Best selling carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023
Unlikely as they improve and charging becomes more widespread. For many doing regular short commutes, they are ideal.
@@sharper68 Hertz rent a car has lost all faith.
Toyota called it quits too
@@jakefriesenjakeautism is strong on you 😂
I don't even have battery-powered tools in my workshop
The physics and science is good on battery powered tools for the average diy’ers.
The hell with pollution I'm not going to be here in 2 million years. The car should know everyone doesn't have $60,000 to spend on a car. Or home to install a charger port.
Most people can plug into 110 volt and that'll be more than enough to do their typical running around. All the stupid comments on here about they don't have more than a 300 Mi range. Just ask yourself when was the last time you drove 300 miles?. Most successful people have more than one vehicle anyway
@davebrickley455 Why would anyone want to limit themselves to that?? When you could have a full tank of gas?
@sl4983 like I said, stupid comments
@@davebrickley4557 A BEV that works for you 95% of the time lets you down 18.5 days a year.
The use of “ most people can plug in at home” is an absolute joke, most people cannot, most people do not live in a property that allows off street parking.
You should give Tesla an honorable mention for not having this issue- people don't want electric cars in the volumes projected, unless it a Tesla
One of the problems with adoption was and is greed. Dealerships who thought they would squeeze customers by raising the MSRP screwed themselves in the long term. They offended so many customers that those customers, including myself, would never buy from them again, no matter the type of vehicle. The EV used market is, of course, not great because there isn't any real history yet. Countries other than the USA are doing well with EV sales. Sure the battery tech is still a bit behind, but manufacturers have started to put battery management devices that have changed the degradation in winter and in the long run. Because man has so polluted the globe and failed to implement changes, we need to adopt EVs that use batteries or use other forms of non polluting fuels that make electricity. We either save this world or just leave more death for those who come after us.
EV's are too expensive. Replacing the battery is ridiculously costly. I'm sure the average person would buy Toyota Corolla EV for 50K. Battery fires are a true concern.
The Batteries are warranted for 100,000 miles. And EV’s less likely to catch fires than hybrids and gas-powered cars. Next
I’ll stick to my 5.7 Tundra.
5.3 Silverado.
Those car manufacturers should focus more on hybrid vehcle to improve and make it more practical and affordable
US fools
It's great to finally see a buyer's market. If I was in the market I'd push for better pricing still, than the discounts dealers are posting.
WHY DIDN`T THEY ASK "WE THE PEOPLE" WHAT WE THINK ABOUT EVS!
not even for free my 1980 toyota truck just keeps going strong
@@robertstanley3832enjoy your 1 horsepower.
cool story bro, but we all don't have the perfect 1980 Toyota truck. We have to get something new that works. "I still have my horse and carriage still going strong, don't need no automobile truck."
1980? How many frames have you gone through?😊 1:25
Liar.
Toyota wasn't even allowed to sell the Toyota Hilux in USA. So u lie bro.
Every morning, I wake up to a fully charged car. It is reliable as long as you keep the car charged. It’s better if you have a charger at home rather than chasing down super charging stations. and no more stupid oil changes and mediocre maintenance made up to separate you from your money. I’ll let you guys know a little secret. You don’t need expensive charging unit. All you need to do is combine two circuit breakers into one which will turn 120v into 240 V. Then plug it in with the mobile connector that they give you for a Tesla and it will charge about 20 to 30 miles, and when you wake up in the morning, you have a fully charged car. Of course this has to be done by electrician.. in fact, most homes already have the 240 V charger or outlet. That is what you use for your dryer.
Too expensive and unreliable.
And deadly
On what way are they unreliable? Just sounds like someone having. An opinion who has no idea what they are talking about.
Lol
This is so stupidly one sided. Normal Gas Cars are also piling up due to the downturn, not just Electric Cars.
You a dum dum
Lots os things people are not talking about EVs including the channel.
The home insurance price increases when you add an EV Charger, my neighbor had a huge reality check (he owns 2 teslas and F150-lightning), he had 1 fast charge station and 1 normal charger, he wanted to add another fast charger when the Power Company (FPL) told him no, they cannot supply such an amount of power to a house, so he couldn`t do it with a fast charger so he just added another regular charger, when the Insurance Company came for a "annual review and renewal", added +20k USD to his annual insurance cost because he has 6 fire hazards in his garage, 3 electric vehicles and 3 charging stations.
EVs are simply too much money, it`s not a "cost saving vehicle because no-gas", it`s literally every company trying to nickle and dimme their customers every step of the way.
Great video!!! Probably doesn’t help Hyundai and Kia only get the most expensive versions of their cars sent to them around here! I’ve never seen the base or the long range model here! I guess we are all RICH in Youngstown, Ohio!!!
If EVs where practical people would buy them.
They are already practical for many people in EU, because they drive shorter distances and have a better charging / electricity infrastructure.
We lease our 2023 model Y because it’s safe and secure.
There are no carjacking of Tesla cars or stolen ones.
Most people do not know this!
I've seen poll after poll showing roughly 96% of Americans don't want EV's for a multitude of reasons. Auto makers should have paid attention and now they're stuck with theses 3-ton paper weights, and I don't feel a bit sorry for them.
Where are you getting your fax from right behind you?
Automakers are being forced to build them by corrupt governments and their control agendas.
millions sold! More and more of my coworkers are buying EVs.
That’s some fake polls
You can't be this stupid to believe that.
Presently, hybrid is still the most sensible choice for the majority of car buyers. You get to enjoy some EV benefits without the hassle.
Grim viewing for the automobile industry . Does the absence of Tesla in the review indicate they are doing something right ?
Um. They don't have dealerships.
They only have about 18 days of inventory and much of their inventory is sitting on boats being shipped from China to Europe or Asia.
Auto insurance for EV in New York and New Jersey is way way to high.
The only reason people buy EV to be exact Teslas is home charging. If you don’t have an home charger public charging costs same as gas and you have less comfort. It’s a no brainer for Americans to keep driving on gas (no hybrid BS), and for Europeans to stay with more efficient diesel. The only good EV experience is Tesla if you want to do occasionally long distance trips.
There are at least twice as many unknown problems associated with EV ownership, than there are ones that are already known.
The whole industry is already on life support, they just don’t want anyone to know it.
A friend of mine just bought a new mid-level trim Ioniq 5 for $8,000 below MSRP from a dealership in the Boston MetroWest area. He said the lot was packed with unsold EVs.
Maybe he got ripped off if there were that many EVs on the lot.
@@carloscontreras3633 😆
Price is all relative, needs to compare with what's selling on the market and which ones are eligible for federal incentive.
Ioniq 5 MSRP is $41,800, so he picked it up for $33,800. But this has 220 range, too low for me.
If the range is a priority even the top end model has 260 miles for AWD, lower than Tesla's Model Y AWD 310miles.
He did not get a good deal, he just got ripped off less. 220 mile range maybe at a steady 55 mph with the wind at your back. As long as you don't need heat or AC, I suppose it never gets hot or cold in Boston. Even if it is free, it is not a good deal. Do you want to put your Families' life at risk? Read the comments, many people get stranded. Do you want your wife or children getting stranded? Or burned up? The fact that any people still buy these shows how incredibly stupid people are.
@@free2roam674 For your reasoning people shouldn't fly or drive at all because there are stupid and drunk drivers out there. What happened to the actor in Fast and Furious?
Fact is the cars are far too expense for most people, add to that range anxiety and that there’s not a nationwide charging network (in the uk) and the 2nd hand market being flooded with far too many cars the ev market is pretty much dead.
Prices of new cars need to drop, governments need to invest billions in public charging points and more nuclear power stations need to be built to generate the extra electricity needed to power everything.
One of the many reasons I would not buy an EV is I wouldn't be sure whether indoor parking of EVs was allowed to wherever I was driving.
Isn't that more a GM thing, rather than an EV thing?
I have my Lexus GS 450h 2011 with 345 powerful hp and i'm sooo happy 💪💪💪💪.
*I drive my Tesla model Y Performance and you will always see my tail lights!*
Amen. Think for yourself.
60K for a car that will be worthless in 10 years!🤬
It will always be worth more than you. :)
Original Tesla roadsters sell for more than $300k.
Well between the high cost of battery replacements & potential fire .. it’s no wonder why they are still on the lot.. no thank you I’ll stick with my gasoline engines ..
You realize how stupid that sounds. There are far more fires in gasoline and hybrids. Batteries are expensive but covered for 10 years, same as a powertrain on most ICE cars.
The problem is insurance and repair costs due to the lack of independent garages that can work on them.Tesla is the same insurance group as a ferrari
A year ago, people would fight for certain models; the demand was so high that dealers couldn't keep up, all due to the high price of gasoline. Now it has come down, and the demand is lower.
It only takes gasoline prices to rise again for the tide to turn. It's not because electricity is less popular, but because people wanted to save money on gasoline in the long term. I recently went to the Tesla dealership, and the place was so crowded that I had to park on the street.
So, the moral of the story is, don't believe the detractors who think electricity has flopped because it hasn't. It's good news that dealers have a large stock; it will encourage them to lower their prices, and the value of raw materials will also decrease.
I had one, never again. Got stuck in traffic on a really hot day, had the aircon on the battery started going down and I was no where near a charge point, had to get rescued.😤
This never happened. EV's use barely any energy when stuck in traffic, maybe 2%. If you had everything at max maybe you would see a drop but c'mon EV's can run your house for up to 3 days and you want ppl to believe that being stuck for a few minutes drained your battery.
Fake story.
I was two cars behind him. He asked to borrow my electric fan and a sip of my water bottle 😂
Let me guess, you've never owned or even driven an EV, and you just made up this story out of thin air. Among the many advantages of EV's is that they use no power when standing still, and almos no power while going at a crawl. So a traffic jam is NOT going to drain the battery. If you're stuck in a traffic jam and you're that worried about the battery, just turn of the AC, the same as I've had to do many times in my old ICE car when I was low on gas.
cause you so stupid buy the car....
Interesting that Tesla is not on the list. Maybe because they build cars people want, are actually very reliable compared to the competition, can already access the nation's best charging network, and people tell their friends and family just how good the ownership experience is.
And yet Hertz put 20,000 of them back on the market (due to issues like charging them up for the next renter and not having enough chargers available around the clock) in the US recently, and lots are FB marketplace has literally 100s of them for sale in a lot of locations.
My 5.5 year ownership of a Tesla has been wonderful. Bought a 2nd one last year. No more gas vehicles.
@@TheVoiceofReason4yaDid you see the mileage on the cars Hertz is selling? I've seen two year old Model 3s for sale by Hertz with 80k-100k miles on the cars. These cars spend more time on the road than they did sitting still. The real problem is Hertz was overwhelmed by customers wanting to rent them, they lost money on the cars since people were putting tons of miles on the cars, the depreciation was higher than expected as well as the repair costs. In my opinion, the EV rentals program was a success for the customer, but Hertz lost money on the program. Also, the rental offices weren't properly equipped to charge EVs quickly so customers got upset their rentals weren't fully charged (no full tank of gas) when they came to pick up the cars.
Tesla likely wasn't in the data set at all due to them being direct-to-consumer. The compiled data is from cars sitting on dealership lots.
Tesla doesn't have dealer lots lmao there's no inventory for anyone to count, they sell direct to consumer
“I’m from the government and I’m here to help you.” Remember those words when you think of Evil Vehicles.
Silly, the government has been "helping" the oil companies for half a century, that they are helping promote a new tech now is not new and should not be surprising. Moving toward energy independence is a tactical and economic win.
Why do you make EV's political. It's a car bro. You probably make EVERYTHING in your life political just because you don't have a life.
Do people realize that in the last six years gasoline car sales have gone down about 18% in the United States. That’s about 4 million cars per year less in sales.
Truth is if you live in a building laws weren’t passed to require some charging stations. That is a large part of population that can’t buy them.
EVs need to be cheaper than gas vehicles in order to sell...
Some EV's in the UK already are......which is perhaps why sales of new EV's are up 21% in January, over the same period last year here.....
@@Brian-om2hh OR maube it's government regulations with ULEZ and and companies using a Tax Dodge?
@@Brian-om2hh Pretty sure its due to government incentives.
Here in germany subsidies where cut and EV share of car registration dropped by 50% from ~20% to around 10% of total registrations.
The market for early adopters is saturated. There will be some that buy after their old EV or gas car dies but if there are no more incentives from the government or super cheap chinese cars I dont see the market goind up by a lot.
Tesla's already are
They're to dangerous to own
I went to a VW dealer looking for a GTI or Golf R, and this dealer had a big line of ID.4’s they couldn’t sell.
Expensive to maintain, low range, hard to find charging, cars catching fire, you look like an Ahole of the neighborhood, cars not starting in cold weather etc. we aren’t ready for EV’s yet.
Expensive to maintain? That's definitely false and cars catching on fire is very rare ocations that it makes headlines. See that's what's wrong with yall, you something and you thing every eve blows up or catches on fire like it's a 4th of July, and where in the world you got info that it's more expensive to maintain ev than ice. There's no oil change or steering fluid,
@@i.d.6492 EV technology will is a new thing. I hear stories about it costing 5-20k hell some are 30k. That’s a lot of money for a car repair for most people. If one little cell fails, the whole battery needs to be replaced. EV’s may be the future, but right now in 2024, we aren’t ready for them yet.
@@peppapigthekiller7539 that's the thing " you hear stories". Bettery failure does happen here and there just like engine failures happen. Even if the repair cost is like $30K for bettery, YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR THE REPAIRS BECAUSE IT'S COVERED UNDER WARRANTY, so even if it's $100K cost, it's ZERO THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET, so replace bettery and keep driving it. Situation like bettery failure is extremely rare compare the number of evs on the road today
@@i.d.6492 what if the battery goes bad after the warranty? Who’s covering you then. Plus, isn’t the point of electric cars to be cleaner alternative to gas powered cars? Kind of defeats the purpose considering battery producing is a dirty process.
@@peppapigthekiller7539 my dude.. if the battery goes bad after 10 years then that will be someone else's problem cause I don't drive old bangers anyway 😂 10 years warranty.. tell me an ICE car that gives you the same warranty for their components... There's none. You just got schooled by that guy and now you are pathetic talking about environment 😂 Sit down.
Not for me EVER…..
Depreciation for EVs still dropping like a stone, and will only get worse as dealers discount new EVs even more! Manufacturers should have listened to their customers and not woke eco nut jobs.
I recently watched a news report shown on Canadian TV about a motorist who had a Hyundai Ioniq EV which he bought for US$60,000. He was driving along a motorway ['Freeway'] when he didn't notice and ran over some debris left on the road. Although there was a loud 'bang' as he struck the debris, when he later stopped and inspected the car there didn't appear to be any serious damage.
However, the owner felt it was best to have the car checked over professionally and took it into his local Hyundai dealership. Underneath the car is a large 'plate' which is fitted to protect the battery [I believe this is normal for EV's?] The plate had some deep gouges in it but more importantly, the access cover to the battery itself [which is located in the centre of the plate] was missing.
On further examination, the Hyundai engineers concluded that the battery had suffered 'impact damage', resulting in a slight leak and needed to be replaced. The cost of a new battery? US$50,000! And due to the staggering levels of depreciation of EV's [despite the car being only two years old] the owner soon discovered that it was cheaper to buy a new car than replace the battery!
I have long argued that EV's are the single biggest scam ever inflicted on motorists. This utterly inane belief that buying an EV is 'saving the planet' or helping the environment is complete BS. Electricity doesn't grow on trees or magically appear out of thin air. It needs to be manufactured. And where is it manufactured? In power stations. And where do power stations get their energy? From fossil fuels [such as coal, gas and petroleum] or nuclear fission.
In effect, we are merely transferring the production of fuel [and with it the resulting pollution, degradation of the fuel source and environment etc] from one resource to another. And worse still, the levels of pollution etc are FAR greater when that fuel source is from power stations than is created by petrol or diesel-powered vehicles.
But on top of this is the phenomenal initial cost of buying [and insuring] an EV, the unbelievable level of depreciation, hassle and inconvenience of EV's and now it seems, having to replace the battery on an EV if it gets damaged. No wonder car manufacturers [and people like Elon Musk] are rubbing their hands and making billions!!
The other irony is that EV's are not a new idea. EV's have been around for over a century. So why didn't electricity become the main power source instead of fossil fuels? It sometimes amazes me how gullible we all are and that huge corporations can manipulate our thinking by simply tapping into a 'trend' or people's fears.
Roughly $120K in my portfolio are in tech/TSLA stocks, can I get an advice on any other stocks that I can acquire to diversify my reserve across multiple markets while creating a comprehensive portfolio allocation that balances my concerns of risk aversion and returns that meet yearly inflation.
Look for equities with yields that beat the market and shares that, over time, at least maintain a steady pace with the market. To ensure a prosperous long-term plan, I suggest consulting with a financial expert or broker.
Yes, I've been in constant touch with a Financial Analyst for approximately 8 months. You know, these days it's really easy to buy into trending stocks, but the task is determining when to sell or keep. That's where my manager comes in, to help me with entry and exit points in the industries I'm engaged in. Can’t say I regret it, I’m 40% up in profits just in 5months with my initial capital of $160k.
Smart, If i wanted to do the same with my retirement funds too, how do i get started trading?
One of the fiduciaries I deal with is Jennifer Lea Jenson. Just check the name. There would be a letter with the necessary information to set up an appointment.
And here it is, another scam advertisement in the comments. Tey again somewhere else.
Thank Biden
Silly .. by your spin he is either bumbling, sleepy and incompetent or dangerously capable of enacting a sinister global agenda. He can't be both.
Got rid of my 2023 chevy bolt last week needed car for work had to charge twice around 3hrs or more if the few charging stations were not being used. 3hrs lost of my life everyday day my stress level was thru the roof😢 now I'm so happy putting gas in my new Hybrid car no pluging with a f***** heavy hose. Now my family loves me again!😂
To look at EV depreciation, you have to reduce the price of the car by the amount of subsidies on it. If the car qualified for a $7500 federal tax credit and a $2500 state EV tax rebate, then the car is worth $10k less, thus the value after 1 year typically falls in line with other ICE vehicles. 2022 was an anomaly where as most car buyers paid over sticker for their cars, and thus depreciation was high across the board.
When I bought my hybrid car 10 months ago, there is a thousands and thousands ev cars on dealership parking lot.
Hmm! EV's are a disaster. It is not smart or fashionable to drive an EV, nor environmentally friendly.
Says the man who has never actually owned one, so therefore knows all about them.. If EV's are a disaster, then how come the Tesla Model Y has become the World's best selling car?
@@Brian-om2hh You don't have to own a BEV to have an opinion on them. I love to keep you talking because you have probably driven more people away from a BEV than all the opinion comments you say people have No Right to Have.
Well, insane drop in value even after 3 years more than 50%, crazy loans and insurance values, easily adding over 50% to the costs just in 5 years, also questionable future regarding charging costs, battery health & tech ridiculous range drops in winter & highway speeds, I am sure there are 100s more reasons not to buy if you value your money & time.
The main additional reason is that they are not green at all. They do not emit pollutants when they drive but every single other thing about them is worse for the planet.
Im used to buying 4-5 year old cars with ~100k km on the click for around 50% of their initial costs. Then I drive them another 5-6 years and resell for around 20% of initial cost. Meaning on a 50kE car I spend around 25k buying and sell it for say, 10k. I lose around 15kE for 5-6 years of driving it.
EV when out of warranty is valued whatever scrap / parts are valued. Battery when out of warranty can go bad at any moment and car is dead. Replacement battery costs more then car itself is worth. Imagine buying a same 5 year old EV for 50%, 25kE, after 2-3 years battery warranty is out. It dies, 20kE cost to replace. Total cost to you: 45kE. Resale value: 10k? 15?
Will this become the new butter mountain… unsold EVs😁
It's a valuable information about some of these EV Vehicles are so unreliable , even worse after seeing Tesla can't charge their cars in a snow storm in the US. This is totally screwed up and need rescue from others , so embarrassing about EV graves .
EVs were a solution in need of a problem to solve. And supposed global “warming” is not the real problem. Consumer’s problem is cheap and convenient transportation. EVs are neither cheap nor convenient.
Status ..the new cool toy ..rich persons second vehicle....the poor suckers that have an EV as their primary source if transportation are out of a vehicle very often.....too cold..bad range...repair wait times..no parts... exorbitant cost on repair...broken charge stations... frequent lengthly stops for charging... depreciation....cost to buy etc.....too much aggravation to be the cool kid..😂😂
Got it the wrong way round, EV as a main car and petrol for the second (wife's car that does very few miles).
I get tired on constantly having to charge the Model Y. Stated range is 303, but not even close. They don’t tell you up front you only charge to 80-90% so now range is 240-270, but then only after nine months only getting 220-250 miles due to battery degradation. Then my 46 mile one way trip to work takes 58.7 miles of electricity. So now I have to at least partially charge each day where I was able to charge the car at first every 2.5 days…. I am thinking of selling. I have a 10 year old prius and it still gets 50-54 mpg and no maintenance except oil changes, tires, and wiper blades. I bought the Tesla since the cat was stolen and I waited a year for a replacement.
Yeah.. cause it's so hard to plug in the car at the end of the day and have 100% battery the next day... Oh the drama 😂
actually I work 12-14 hours a day and then every other day I need to drive at night on the way home to a Tesla supercharger, which the closest to my house is 15 miles away. I wait 30-40 minutes to charge to 90% as this is the daily max with Lithium ion batteries, best is only 80%. After charging , 30 minutes later I am home. So yeah it’s not as easy as you might think.
@@briankoch1121 If you don't have charging at home or work an EV probably isn't worth it.
@@briankoch1121 infrastructure may not be there yet for everyone to fully benefit from electric cars but imo that doesn't mean that we should go backwards and think petrol/diesel are the alternative. New battery tech will replace everything we drive soon.
everyone that wanted one got one.... now they cant sell any
They can't sell them because the dealers mark them up so high no one wants one
@@zj10 ya i think they do that with every car nowadays ,,, just looked now and the model 3 is down to 35k for the rwd,, now thats more reasonable
This is not just an EV problem. General Vehicle over pricing is now self correcting itself (as markets do).
Someone is paying alot of money to put out propaganda. My bet is oil manufacturers.
When you make cars that politicians want instead of what the consumer wants, you go broke.
I am a tech enthusiast and would have jumped on an EV, but my old house only has on street parking, and my vacation place has a parking garage where they can’t have chargers unless everyone in the building paid $2000 to make the it “charger ready” (and then I would still need to spend another $2000 to actually install a charger). I guess my next car will be a hybrid!
*Electric car owners, tesla, bmw, or low quality korean ones, no matter which brand, you name it, are getting F ed in resale value every day. Not to mention any time there is a problem, their car is totaled. Lmfao…*
Until the recent price cut by Tesla, my car was holding its value better than any other car I've ever bought. Two years after purchase I could have sold it for 90% of what I paid for it. Most cars drop 15% when you drive them off the lot. Resale value definitely dropped when Tesla announced price cuts across its line.
I had a minor problem with a seat belt warning sensor on my Kia EV. It wasn't totalled, it was repaired in around 30 minutes, at no charge to me, as it came with a 7 year warranty. Resale value is irrelevant if you lease instead of buying.....
@@michaelelliott8350 The slide is accelerating, not slowing down. You ain't seen nothing yet.
@@Brian-om2hh Leasing a BEV in the future, like from Now on, will be very expensive because they will calculate lower value at end of lease. Maybe you lucked out but count no man lucky until he is dead, and there are many more pitfalls ahead you must dodge.
Problem is that most people who buy EVs are smarter than you guys. If you buy an ev for 40k save £2k a year on gas every year for 10 years, it doesn’t matter if your car has depreciated by a few k more than an ice car.
I would never purchase another EV until they have 1000 mile range...
It will never happen….😊😅!
Bought a virtually new one in current year with minimal miles on the clock about 33% less than out the box price. 😂 Serene peaceful drive , half price fuel costs with overnight home charge and nearly 4 seconds quicker 0-60 mph versus my previous ice car.
Peeps say they think the ice cars pollution is political hogwash .
TRY THIS if you dare . Put my ev in the garage and close all exit doors . Turn on the power and leave it running or on , take a meal and drinks and a cosy chair placing it by the rear of the ev . Now do the same with z ice engine car and see if you manage to enjoy your meal , be lucky if you can stand after several hours , POLLUTION A EXAGGERATION , really. Lol 😅
Ev not for me if people are happy to Waite 45 mins to charge there car up ,good luck plus your tyres don’t last long?😂
There's more to the story, believe me...
1. Child battery mineral labor
2. Range anxiety
3. Risk of garage fires
4. Paying 20k more than a
comparable vehicle
5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration.
6. Poor resale value
7. Reduced performance in
cold, highway.
8. Higher repair costs
9. Awful charging network
experiences in the weather
without restrooms
10. Higher insurance rates
11. Replacing tires more
frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution.
12. Death by autopilot
13. $25k - $35k battery
14. Low km range per tank of energy.
15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs
to charge.
16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging.
17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm.
18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die.
19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road)
20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid.
21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car.
In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one.
22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals.
23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries.
24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down.
25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium.
26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage....
27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out.
28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire.
29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear.
30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better.
31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff.
32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car.
33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm.
34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money.
35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery.
36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already.
37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.)
38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money.
39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above.
40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in.
41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation.
42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere.
43. Even Mr. Bean says;
"I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped".
"When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis."
Mr. Bean is a smart man.
Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
Lmao do you know that you don’t have to charge at public chargers? My neighbor plug in their model y at home when they need to charge it my close family member own a model y when he does errands when he need to charge he go home and plug it in smh and my cousin he charge it at home when he need to if people too lazy to charge at home then don’t complain.
@@vce.john1734 lmao... So they must have a driveway, or a parking spot or a garage with electricity near by.
Many, many people park their cars on the road or a parking garage with no electricity. Illegal to run a cord to the road, especially across the street. Cause half the year, you usually park on the other side of the road. 🤣🤣
What then???
No One Wants EV At ALL! LOADED With Major Problems, Limited Range, EXPENSIVE ALL AROUND & Goes BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM Did I Said it went BOOM
Which EV have you owned that gave you major problems? Why do you suppose sales of new EV's in the UK are up 21% in January, over the same period last year? Were you even aware that around 300 ICE cars catch fire in Britain each day? Or that the NTSB in the US, recorded 190'000 ICE car fires during 2022?
2015 Model S my daughter bought was nothing but problems . After her dealings with customer service and the Service center I don't see any more Tesla's in our family..
Oh. I want one. But I have to wait 3-4 months for it - BYD can't make them fast enough. No stock piles here😢 no cheap 2nd EV either. In USA I'd buy a used Chevy Bolt
No one wants an EV and yet I see them all over the place. It's funny I've actually seen same exact videos of dealerships can't get rid of ice vehicles and there are so many of them out there
EV's should be banned !!!
Why
What's killing the EV industry in the USA
1. exclusion of tax rebate for foreign-made EVs.
Answer
This is protectionism of the worst kind, the US Administration should get a grip.
2. price gouging by dealerships. +$5k~15k "dealer adjustment" on top of MSRP???
Answer 2 and 4
US manufacturers still think that folk need a '56 Chevrolet' rather than a compact
4. lack of $25k~35k price range EV for normal people
3. lack of infrastructure to handle EVs
In Europe, we started like this, but today lots of multi-vehicle charging hubs are springing up