These are the Ford Recalls concerning this part: 16S18 Certain 2014-2015 Model Year Explorer and Police Interceptor Utility Vehicles 19S17 Certain 2011-2017 Model Year Explorer Vehicles 20S04 Certain 2013-2018 Model Year Flex, MKT, Police Interceptor Sedan, and Taurus SHO with Performance Pack Vehicles Check your Ford vehicle for open Recalls- owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls.html
I noticed you picked up your intensity and the speed of your voice in this one. This is the secret to making it to 1mil flwrs on YT. I can't wait until you get there mate. You deserve it.
@@tamaninja03 I'm worried about my 2011 Flex as well. I know all these cars have most of the suspension components in common. I don't care if it's out of pocket for me either. Just want my family to be safe.
@@tamaninja03 Yeah, I crawled under the car and looked just now. It's got the welded link. I'm at least going to check the tie rod end for wear just to be safe.
Brother, I have been watching you years. I'm an ASE master tech several times over, (Yeah, I know, it's just a patch LOL), and been working on cars ,motorcycles, semis, etc since 1974 and I am so impressed with your knowledge. It's great to see some of the younger guys, (I just had my 63rd b day), still reach your level. Thanks for what you're doing! I have learned so much from you. Regards, Doc, Hendersonville, NC
@@MrTheHillfolk If there's play, insist they be replaced with whatever is currently available, then done again when the new parts come in. That way, you have new good parts on there for less than a year, so things should be safe.
Leland Holton - I agree I absolutely loath going to the dealer but it might be worth it for this if you can get the work completed for free on recall. Getting some custom built is going to be quite expensive and probably won’t work as well as the factory replacements.
Thank you!! I brought my 14' FPIS into Tasca for the recall. Just wanted to get my name in for when the toe links start to roll into the dealers. Tasca did not tell me a time frame at all. Thank you, for telling us 3rd Quarter. I do alot of work on my 03' Vic P71, 94' Mustang, and 14'FPIS. You are phenomanal!!!
Thanks Brian, you deserve a great deal of recognition for your clear and concise Ford repair videos. This is an import recall, and I believe you are genuine in your concern for your customers and viewers. I appreciate the guidance your videos provide, and hope that your business is prosperous. I sense this is not just about making money, but it is about helping out people. I would buy a T-Shirt, but I live in Arizona, so I don't wear anything black!
Had same issue in 2017. It was scary when you would break at high speeds. Took it to my local ford dealership and they told me it was the “aftermarket rotors and brakes”. I knew it was bull crap. Took it to another place and they told me it was the calipers failing. I knew that was true either. 8 months later took it to Naperville auto center and they found it was the rear toe going bad. Paid $300 for job and alignment. But glad you where able to share this with us!!
Just picked up my 2019 MKT with 75k miles and they replaced my failing toe links under the certified 100k warranty. Drives like a dream now. Alignment was included. The car drove like crap and was pulling right. Dealer found it during an inspection at an oil change after I asked for an alignment. Glad they caught it.
I got my recall notice for this back in early March for our 2016 Flex. Ours only has 40,000kms on it at the moment but I checked did an inspection anyway to see how it currently is since no parts are available til mid late/summer. Ours is in good shape but I'll be getting it fixed as soon as possible. Thanks for the great info
Brother, this is one of the best tech videos so far. A week ago , i experienced issue like this with my Ford Explorer 2016 2.3 ecoboost limited. I was on a smooth road in the city and after the traffic stop, i was accelerating while I heard a bang sound from the right of my car. Then I felt like I was driving when the parts of the right wheels were broken. I stopped to check if there were anything wrong, but noticed nothing weird. I continued slowly and it happened again after a short while. This time seemed harder so i pulled over and turned off the engine. Without noticing anything weird, i continued driving slowly and it just ran normally. The day after I had it inspected by a non-Ford mechanic. They did a test drive and inspect the bottom parts, but said everything is great. Still concerned while driving. I didn't go to Ford cuz i bought mine used from someone who imported it from the US himself not from the local dealership. Any recommendations?
Many thanks for posting this. The recall in the Great White North was June 2019. I never got a notification for my 2012 Taurus SEL (it is covered here). Back end has been jumping all over the place every time I hit a bump. Replacement now booked for early June. Update 11 June '20: The replacement parts they had in stock had hairline cracks. Ford has now recalled ALL of the parts supplied to deal with the original recall. This is North America Wide. They are waiting for delivery of new versions of the part.
Thank you! I've been chasing this issue down for weeks. Since the recall seems to have passed and is now relegated to CA origin cars only, my local dealers are refusing to honor it. Same exact issue, just gonna have to eat the replacement part cost on my own but no biggie so long as it keeps the car running safely. Thank you!
Man this is impeccable timing. I have a 2010 Ford Flex and a couple weeks ago I put my summer wheels back on. I gave the suspension a good look over because I am getting odd tire wear. My toe links are very very rusty and I don't think they would be able to do the alignment without replacing them. So good to know there may be an updated part. Thanks so much
I see this is similar to the Rav4 recall I was doing. That was 3 times a charm recall due to incompetent hack's. You're good! Keep up the good work. ASE master retired.
Thank you for this info. Just called the dealership, my car has not been repaired. Just made an appointment. Thank you again for the link and video. (12-23-24)
That's why I like watching your channel, you are honest and highly skilled in your trade. It's not a common thing these days from most people unfortunately. I know there's a lot of them out there but some more of them definitely need there own channel. Keep doing what you're doing big dog and never lose that spark. 👍Awesome job like always I definitely recommend your channel to everyone I know.
I just had my 2013 Explorer SLT recall completed (19S17). The new ones look NICE!! I have pics of the new ones installed but not sure how to post it. Bottom line is they look exactly like the ones in the video - no weld, all one piece at that end. Glad to have that done!! The dealer did try to up-sell a front end alignment (barely off), replacing the Rear Upper Control Arm Bushings ("Excessive Play"), and doing a rear brake job at $240, but I declined since I knew I could do the brake job for $50 and check the Upper Control Arms at that time. No play at all when testing per the video... Grrrr. Is it any wonder I don't trust dealerships? BTW, thank you for the video!! It gave me the needed knowledge to make sure I did not get ripped off.
Blue Moon hello,,you sound like me, both sides of my family only drove FORDS, so did I, We lived in JAMAICA , when it was BWI, and the WORLDS OLDEST FORD DEALERSHIP is there in KINGSTON, most of those were from ENGLAND RHD , my current car is a 2013 TAURUS used with factory warranty 21k 1 owner, before , now 30k, but towed 7 times, ALWAYS SOME FRIGGING SENSOR or another, they had it a week, only because of the COVID 19 VIRUS, out of 20 mechanics they only had4 , and I HAD TO WALK 1 mile several times to & from dealer , I had to fill out the repair ticket myself, & told one service dept, this was the LAST FORD CAR I would ever own .FORD no longer make cars here Plus ALL THEIR VEHICLES HAVE FUEL FILLER ON LEFT , I said my next will be a SUBURU, it’s filler is on RIGHT,made in USA. CHEERS FROM NJ USA🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
@@flybyairplane3528 Hey. My parents are from Jamaica, Kingston. Yes I maintained mine meticulously but still had a leaking left turbo, sensor issues etc. Traded in for a 2017 Accord Coupe Touring V6. Becareful of the Subaru transmissions they are not the greatest (CVT).
@@antartorres7594 When you look at the original design it sure looks like a bad idea for them to "weld" that socket to the shaft part!!!! It must be nerve racking when you feel that fishtailing feeling!!!
You know what, I experienced two weeks ago but when I posted in Ford E. Group, some members joked about me that I must have hit someone and asked me to get down and pull him/her out and so on. This video now describes exactly what happened to my car. Not many people in that group believed me, but recently they start getting the Rear Toe Link recall, and they must believe it now.
Well, when I saw this recall, I immediately went to look at the rear suspension toe links for cracks or breakage. I also took pictures of both sides to have for my records. I will also mark them before I take the vehicle in to compare before and AFTER the work is done!!! I didn't see any defects or breakage but metal and welds can slowly develop cracks and fatigue over time from road shocks, vibrations and loading. I set up the recall work at a dealer nearby anyway because no way I will wait for a failure to occur!!!
Fantastic, thank you. I have a 1917 Ford Edge and I pull a 5X10 trailer with z turn mower. Now I’m afraid to drive it. Will check my toe line today to see if it’s bad. Thanks so much for this video.
Great video. When you pop the bolt out of the socket and the houhouerdding did you have to lower the car off the lift I was under the impression if the spring is pushing down on the A frame that you wouldn't be able to get that loose
Huh, I have been having this exact problem with my 2010 SHO I thought I had a sticking caliper, but I just checked and I have a failed toe link. Does the Recall not include the 2010-2012 Taurus? The Link looks identical to the old one you show in the video.
This one is tough because of the substantial production cut COVID-19 has caused, in all manufacturing sectors, Ford is not fixing these anytime soon. Would dealers ever use non-Motorcraft parts?
If we have to we do it at our shop, but it does take very special circumstances for us to do so. That is on the actual chassi and whatnot, extra lights etc we put on all the time. Anyway, we very rarely accept non original parts because they're usually garbage, but in a pinch like last year when the main parts house was basically shut down for 5 months and now during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic shutting down parts manufacturers we're being a bit more lenient. Luckily we had enough stock to pull through the worst of it.
I've been telling our Technicians to load the lower control arm for years, as the upper control arm - inward bushing is also notorious for having excessive play, that cannot be checked by just lifting from the pinchwelds.
I just had my ‘17 limited in for the second recall for this. This time, the recall was for the bolts. I asked the service writer why there was so many recalls on these explorers? He said one word: “soccer-moms”.”They bug Ford about everything until there is a recall”.
Toe link on left rear wheel at 53 mph on I-95 in the Bronx, NY. Luckily for me there were no other cars around me. I was driving a Lincoln MKT. The car made an abrupt left turn send. The car into the Jersey barrier on the median, it turn around and went across my side of the highway. This happened on February 19, 2020. Boy does that seat belt pull you in. When the car finally stopped I took off the seat belt and opened the door. Many people stopped by but only one got out and asked me if I was all right . My response “was the car on fire”. He said no and I said then I’ll sit right here. The police, ambulance and fire truck responded to the scene and I was taken to the hospital. The car was totaled.
You could see it just fine while it was still on the car. The weld looked good. Still, I'd want it replaced, both sides, with whatever was available, then done again with the new and updated component. This is too important to let go and wait.
@@jamesplotkin4674 Yes. That idea to weld the socket to the rod/shaft part is not well thought out. The new replacement one should have been the way to go from the beginning. But too many times they are looking for production savings before they consider durability and potential breakage and the loos of control problems when they finally break at the weld!!!
Thanks for the video it was well put together. I’m having these symptoms with my explorer on the rear end. Thought I could cheap route it and replaced the sway bar bushings along with the sway bar end links. To no avail it still wobbles. So I replaced the rear upper control arms as I noticed the bushings in/on the arms looked shot. The rubber was chipped away and I thought aha this could be the problem. Again it didn’t solve my back end from kicking out. I think these toe links look to be the culprit of my issue. I’ll jack up from the lower control arm like you had in the video to see if I can feel any play. Thanks for the pro tips!
Have one in the shop today and the ball socket popped out while we were knocking the tire off of the hub😅 very rusty here in central Illinois. The bolt is so rusted and stripped the weld nut/clip.. i will have to torch / cut the bushing and bolt out as there is no other access to the nut or bolt..
So thankful for this video, I started having the same problem with my 2017 Flex, I took it to Ford dealerships and say it was my rear brakes, didn’t fix the problem, I m waiting for Ford starts the recall and they don’t even have the same part to put a new one till November 10 2020
I'm thinking that this is an in house part, and as for the failure rate, it has more to do with the condition of our roads in this country than bad engineering. The random potholes, especially on the interstates is of epidemic proportions. Cruising at 70mph, and hitting some of these monsters it's easy to see why parts can't withstand it.
Mark K my Toyota hasn’t fallen apart and it drives the same roads. As stated above, Ford sets the specs for the suppliers, if they want better they pay more if they want to increase profits they spec out crappy welded parts instead of the obviously better second part. Just the usual, which choice do you think they went with?
I’m taking in my 2015 explorer for diagnostic. I’m feeling a vibration & slight noise at certain speeds. The worst is growing from 45-50 mph. I’m hoping is just an exhaust problem. I’ll have them replace all the recalls while I’m there.
Check your rear tire wear. Our 2014 flex developed horrible wear to the inner part of both tires. My alignment guy caught it and noted both links were really loose at the ball joint. Ford replaced it under our extended warranty in 2018. I'm not sure if we have the new part or not. My ford dealer said they would exchange them under warranty anyway
They should all be replaced but only certain models are under recall. You can check your car here- owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls.html
Rear only, but that's if you have the limited slip rear diff. You know how to check to be sure? Lift rear with both wheels off ground, transmission in neutral, rotate one wheel while watching opposite side. If it rotates opposite, its an open diff, no modifier needed. If it rotates the same direction, put the motorcraft modifier in with full synthetic 75w140 like the F150 9.75 rear diff. Service every 60,000 to 80,000 to keep it happy.
Ford dealer performed this on my parent's Explorer. BUT forgot to tighten everything up exaggerating the original problem and almost killed them. Serious issue.
Appreciate this video. Family 2017 explorer 140k having some rear suspension unusual handling. Doesn’t sound like this necessarily but will definitely check it as well
I had a 72 Torino Country Squire wagon, nice car rode nice until the rubber bushings in the rear suspension wore out. Step on the gas turn left a little bit, hit the brakes turn right a bit. And it cost a small fortune to repair because of the number of links in that suspension. Simplicity was not on anyone's mind when they designed that one! ! !
Sadly 2009 flex is not in the recall...i noticed that when it was icy or snowy out the back end will feel floaty. Found that exact weld cracked and that sideways ball joint worn. Replaced them and it rides like a dream.
hello friend good night I have a 2012 ford explorer 2wd on the passenger side my tire moves like the clock from 9 to 3 and the bearing and the cv axle are repaired and this is the same as the problem9
Thank you for this explanation. Does this defect affect the balance of the car and accidents may occur in the front of the car, for example, and what is the technical impact of this? Thanks for the clarification ؟
All right you do a very good job on your videos good explanation good technical knowledge very professional I have a question I have several Tauruses I have 205 Tauruses and one of them seems to run okay add a neutral you can wrap it up and it sounds strong as it could be once you put it into gear and go down the highway and experienced a hell of a light Minor Hill it starts popping, what's wrong
Question, 2007 ford escape v6 I put in a new subframe rotors, pads, shocks,lower control arms, truck is sturdy, but when braking forward, slight jurking, O.i had a broken spring passenger side when the subframe rotted out, could this be a bad control bushing or bad shock tower, GLEN. Thanks for your chanel, it is one of the best..
Great video , but I have 2013 Ford Exp Sport...I just examined mine, it doesn't even look like that, actually looks pretty new and is all one piece , hard to explain but holds by a bracket that covers both sides. i also have a tow pkg. The thing is when I go to my Ford Owner acct it does have the recall . What say you?
Hey, I have a Ford F-150 2008 5.4L 3v and it’s making a ticking noise and when I accelerate it makes it faster and when I step on the gas while driving I feel like it’s misfiring
I have a 2010 ford taurus limited that was wearing tires on the inside of rear. The mechanics didn't catch this during state inspection either. After three sets of tires, three alignments, and two wheel bearings, and two rear shocks, finally two techs at Peppy's found the issue.
I have a 04 freestar sel minivan and it has codes for egr and the back exhaust started to have heavy black smoke and the car started to shack and slowed down. What does that mean ?? Need your ford expertise
Thanks for the heads-up on this issue. Also appreciate the proper method of checking this type of suspension. Are there any good aftermarket sources for this part?
I just had this done for a 2013 Explorer XLT-10/7/2020. so you are saying they didn't have the parts? Then how did they do it? Was Wayne County Ford in Honesdale, PA. Very clean shop, huge looks A+ to me.
I've had 3 Ford Taurus Police Interceptors in the past 5 or 6 years and Ford sent the recall notices to me on all of them so they were replaced at the dealership but I was always considering finding a small rack and pinion from a front wheel drive car and mounting it in there so I could have that crab walk and opposing rear steer if I ever wanted to. But I never determined the steering angle that was it was possible at possible at those rear spindles... Another annoying things that fail on these cars are the PTO units if you don't change the fluid (and Ford won't let you change the fluid under warranty unless they're really hungry and bored) the windshield washer sprayer pump fails prematurely, the blenddoor in the dashboard and last but not least.....oil leaks around the two sensors on the front of both valve covers on the passenger side of the engine. Not to mention if you have a 3.5 twin Turbo ecoboost boost or the 2.0 single Turbo ecoboost you're gonna have upper valve train carbon deposits and lower intercooler fractures/cracks and fluid build-up if you don't install a catch can that doesn't come with the car and is not 50 state legal so good luck putting a catch can on a California model.
Got a question on a 2005 f150 speedo reads faster than your running could this be a problem with the speed sensor input or output any help would be greatly appreciated
2016 Explorer, replaced original left toe link at 90k. Have been back twice since for same repair with less than 500 miles on each subsequent repair. Toe link sheared hanging down from truck... No heavy use or off road use. Wife will not drive it anymore, ford keeps replacing it saying "it's fine now". Could this stress be caused by another part failure placing undue stress on the toe link?
These are the Ford Recalls concerning this part:
16S18 Certain 2014-2015 Model Year Explorer and Police Interceptor Utility Vehicles
19S17 Certain 2011-2017 Model Year Explorer Vehicles
20S04 Certain 2013-2018 Model Year Flex, MKT, Police Interceptor Sedan, and Taurus SHO with Performance Pack Vehicles
Check your Ford vehicle for open Recalls-
owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls.html
I noticed you picked up your intensity and the speed of your voice in this one. This is the secret to making it to 1mil flwrs on YT. I can't wait until you get there mate. You deserve it.
Does this apply to MKS’s??? They’re basically the same as a SHO just with a better ride
@@tamaninja03 I'm worried about my 2011 Flex as well. I know all these cars have most of the suspension components in common. I don't care if it's out of pocket for me either. Just want my family to be safe.
@@tamaninja03 Yeah, I crawled under the car and looked just now. It's got the welded link. I'm at least going to check the tie rod end for wear just to be safe.
Any input on the F-150 5.0L engine problems?
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Yes! the best ford chanel!
@@turboflush No =) the best only this
Hmm a Ford fragrance. Maybe they should branch out and try that market. Id wear a bottle of Mercon. Lord knows Ive worn it plenty of times before.
Brother, I have been watching you years. I'm an ASE master tech several times over, (Yeah, I know, it's just a patch LOL), and been working on cars ,motorcycles, semis, etc since 1974 and I am so impressed with your knowledge. It's great to see some of the younger guys, (I just had my 63rd b day), still reach your level. Thanks for what you're doing! I have learned so much from you. Regards, Doc, Hendersonville, NC
Own a 15 SHO and this is the first I've heard of this. Great feeling knowing I can't get this fixed until the end of the year...
Do a visual on em , check the joint for play , so you know if you can get by and relax a little until it's done
@@MrTheHillfolk If there's play, insist they be replaced with whatever is currently available, then done again when the new parts come in. That way, you have new good parts on there for less than a year, so things should be safe.
I think availability may vary. I would check with dealer also you might be able to have them replaced on recall again check with dealer.
Looks like I’m going to a machine shop to get some made for mine. I’m not going to dick with ford and their shitty dealer network customer service.
Leland Holton -
I agree I absolutely loath going to the dealer but it might be worth it for this if you can get the work completed for free on recall. Getting some custom built is going to be quite expensive and probably won’t work as well as the factory replacements.
Thank you!! I brought my 14' FPIS into Tasca for the recall. Just wanted to get my name in for when the toe links start to roll into the dealers. Tasca did not tell me a time frame at all. Thank you, for telling us 3rd Quarter. I do alot of work on my 03' Vic P71, 94' Mustang, and 14'FPIS. You are phenomanal!!!
Thanks Brian, you deserve a great deal of recognition for your clear and concise Ford repair videos. This is an import recall, and I believe you are genuine in your concern for your customers and viewers. I appreciate the guidance your videos provide, and hope that your business is prosperous. I sense this is not just about making money, but it is about helping out people. I would buy a T-Shirt, but I live in Arizona, so I don't wear anything black!
Had same issue in 2017. It was scary when you would break at high speeds. Took it to my local ford dealership and they told me it was the “aftermarket rotors and brakes”. I knew it was bull crap. Took it to another place and they told me it was the calipers failing. I knew that was true either. 8 months later took it to Naperville auto center and they found it was the rear toe going bad. Paid $300 for job and alignment. But glad you where able to share this with us!!
I just re-watched your video about counterfeit Motorcraft parts. I was about to buy counterfeit coil from Amazon but your video saved me.
Just picked up my 2019 MKT with 75k miles and they replaced my failing toe links under the certified 100k warranty. Drives like a dream now. Alignment was included. The car drove like crap and was pulling right. Dealer found it during an inspection at an oil change after I asked for an alignment. Glad they caught it.
I got my recall notice for this back in early March for our 2016 Flex. Ours only has 40,000kms on it at the moment but I checked did an inspection anyway to see how it currently is since no parts are available til mid late/summer. Ours is in good shape but I'll be getting it fixed as soon as possible. Thanks for the great info
Brother, this is one of the best tech videos so far. A week ago , i experienced issue like this with my Ford Explorer 2016 2.3 ecoboost limited. I was on a smooth road in the city and after the traffic stop, i was accelerating while I heard a bang sound from the right of my car. Then I felt like I was driving when the parts of the right wheels were broken. I stopped to check if there were anything wrong, but noticed nothing weird. I continued slowly and it happened again after a short while. This time seemed harder so i pulled over and turned off the engine. Without noticing anything weird, i continued driving slowly and it just ran normally. The day after I had it inspected by a non-Ford mechanic. They did a test drive and inspect the bottom parts, but said everything is great. Still concerned while driving. I didn't go to Ford cuz i bought mine used from someone who imported it from the US himself not from the local dealership. Any recommendations?
Many thanks for posting this. The recall in the Great White North was June 2019. I never got a notification for my 2012 Taurus SEL (it is covered here). Back end has been jumping all over the place every time I hit a bump. Replacement now booked for early June.
Update 11 June '20: The replacement parts they had in stock had hairline cracks. Ford has now recalled ALL of the parts supplied to deal with the original recall. This is North America Wide. They are waiting for delivery of new versions of the part.
Thank you! I've been chasing this issue down for weeks. Since the recall seems to have passed and is now relegated to CA origin cars only, my local dealers are refusing to honor it. Same exact issue, just gonna have to eat the replacement part cost on my own but no biggie so long as it keeps the car running safely. Thank you!
Man this is impeccable timing. I have a 2010 Ford Flex and a couple weeks ago I put my summer wheels back on. I gave the suspension a good look over because I am getting odd tire wear. My toe links are very very rusty and I don't think they would be able to do the alignment without replacing them. So good to know there may be an updated part. Thanks so much
Your channel is priceless!
I see this is similar to the Rav4 recall I was doing. That was 3 times a charm recall due to incompetent hack's. You're good! Keep up the good work. ASE master retired.
Thank you for this info. Just called the dealership, my car has not been repaired. Just made an appointment. Thank you again for the link and video. (12-23-24)
Great information that is thoroughly explained. One of the best channels out there. Thanks for investing your knowledge & time to help our industry!
That's why I like watching your channel, you are honest and highly skilled in your trade. It's not a common thing these days from most people unfortunately. I know there's a lot of them out there but some more of them definitely need there own channel. Keep doing what you're doing big dog and never lose that spark. 👍Awesome job like always I definitely recommend your channel to everyone I know.
Holy crap!!! That looks dangerous!!! Great video FordTechMakuloco!!!
I just had my 2013 Explorer SLT recall completed (19S17). The new ones look NICE!! I have pics of the new ones installed but not sure how to post it. Bottom line is they look exactly like the ones in the video - no weld, all one piece at that end. Glad to have that done!!
The dealer did try to up-sell a front end alignment (barely off), replacing the Rear Upper Control Arm Bushings ("Excessive Play"), and doing a rear brake job at $240, but I declined since I knew I could do the brake job for $50 and check the Upper Control Arms at that time. No play at all when testing per the video... Grrrr. Is it any wonder I don't trust dealerships?
BTW, thank you for the video!! It gave me the needed knowledge to make sure I did not get ripped off.
Loved my 2013 Taurus SHO but glad I got rid in the end. No more Fords for me and have been a Ford guy since when I lived in England.
Blue Moon hello,,you sound like me, both sides of my family only drove FORDS, so did I, We lived in JAMAICA , when it was BWI, and the WORLDS OLDEST FORD DEALERSHIP is there in KINGSTON, most of those were from ENGLAND RHD , my current car is a 2013 TAURUS used with factory warranty 21k 1 owner, before , now 30k, but towed 7 times, ALWAYS SOME FRIGGING SENSOR or another, they had it a week, only because of the COVID 19 VIRUS, out of 20 mechanics they only had4 , and I HAD TO WALK 1 mile several times to & from dealer , I had to fill out the repair ticket myself, & told one service dept, this was the LAST FORD CAR I would ever own .FORD no longer make cars here Plus ALL THEIR VEHICLES HAVE FUEL FILLER ON LEFT , I said my next will be a SUBURU, it’s filler is on RIGHT,made in USA. CHEERS FROM NJ USA🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧🇺🇸
@@flybyairplane3528 Hey. My parents are from Jamaica, Kingston. Yes I maintained mine meticulously but still had a leaking left turbo, sensor issues etc. Traded in for a 2017 Accord Coupe Touring V6. Becareful of the Subaru transmissions they are not the greatest (CVT).
@@Blue-moon12 don't forget your timing belt intervals on your J-Series V6 in your Honda. Other than that, the car will live forever!
I got mine replaced in my 2012 explorer last year and there was a waiting list. I can imagine the waiting list now
Mine were just replaced by dealer on recall, no wait list,
@@chucknoob7041 oh ok i had to wait
@Camaro 1968 lol
@@chucknoob7041 Lucky you! Where did you take it?
@@Movieman1965 -
Local dealer here in Minnesota.
Got that same weird fishtailing thing on an 11 now I know I’m not crazy and what to fix.
Leon Sullivan I know exactly how you feel, my 2017 flex just started doing that. We are not crazy 😉😂
Well, that must be nerve racking!!!!
@@antartorres7594 When you look at the original design it sure looks like a bad idea for them to "weld" that socket to the shaft part!!!! It must be nerve racking when you feel that fishtailing feeling!!!
You know what, I experienced two weeks ago but when I posted in Ford E. Group, some members joked about me that I must have hit someone and asked me to get down and pull him/her out and so on. This video now describes exactly what happened to my car. Not many people in that group believed me, but recently they start getting the Rear Toe Link recall, and they must believe it now.
Well, when I saw this recall, I immediately went to look at the rear suspension toe links for cracks or breakage. I also took pictures of both sides to have for my records. I will also mark them before I take the vehicle in to compare before and AFTER the work is done!!! I didn't see any defects or breakage but metal and welds can slowly develop cracks and fatigue over time from road shocks, vibrations and loading. I set up the recall work at a dealer nearby anyway because no way I will wait for a failure to occur!!!
Wow, I feel so spoiled living in the south. Both my 2003 cars look newer underneath than that Taurus. Gotta love no rust :)
Thank you for all your info helps me every day
Got this recall for the Flex. Haven’t heard from dealership about when parts will come in
Just had my Toe Link replaced on my 2014 Explorer. Had no issues, just took it in for the recall.
Fantastic, thank you. I have a 1917 Ford Edge and I pull a 5X10 trailer with z turn mower. Now I’m afraid to drive it. Will check my toe line today to see if it’s bad. Thanks so much for this video.
Im gonna drive to chicago to get my oil changed at BSG... I live in the detroit area so its not that bad.
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Great video. When you pop the bolt out of the socket and the houhouerdding did you have to lower the car off the lift I was under the impression if the spring is pushing down on the A frame that you wouldn't be able to get that loose
Huh, I have been having this exact problem with my 2010 SHO I thought I had a sticking caliper, but I just checked and I have a failed toe link. Does the Recall not include the 2010-2012 Taurus? The Link looks identical to the old one you show in the video.
Brian, thanks for another world-class video. Keep up the great work, I love watching and learning from you and your channel.
Thanks for the heads up. Will have to check and see if my 2017 Explorer Sport is involved.
I had one of those that had the ball joint pop right out of the socket after hitting a bump
This one is tough because of the substantial production cut COVID-19 has caused, in all manufacturing sectors, Ford is not fixing these anytime soon. Would dealers ever use non-Motorcraft parts?
If we have to we do it at our shop, but it does take very special circumstances for us to do so. That is on the actual chassi and whatnot, extra lights etc we put on all the time. Anyway, we very rarely accept non original parts because they're usually garbage, but in a pinch like last year when the main parts house was basically shut down for 5 months and now during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic shutting down parts manufacturers we're being a bit more lenient. Luckily we had enough stock to pull through the worst of it.
In this case, the non-OEM part will like be better than what is currently on the vehicle. A fracturing weld is definitely safety concern.
I've been telling our Technicians to load the lower control arm for years, as the upper control arm - inward bushing is also notorious for having excessive play, that cannot be checked by just lifting from the pinchwelds.
I just had my ‘17 limited in for the second recall for this. This time, the recall was for the bolts. I asked the service writer why there was so many recalls on these explorers? He said one word: “soccer-moms”.”They bug Ford about everything until there is a recall”.
Toe link on left rear wheel at 53 mph on I-95 in the Bronx, NY. Luckily for me there were no other cars around me. I was driving a Lincoln MKT. The car made an abrupt left turn send. The car into the Jersey barrier on the median, it turn around and went across my side of the highway. This happened on February 19, 2020. Boy does that seat belt pull you in. When the car finally stopped I took off the seat belt and opened the door. Many people stopped by but only one got out and asked me if I was all right . My response “was the car on fire”. He said no and I said then I’ll sit right here. The police, ambulance and fire truck responded to the scene and I was taken to the hospital. The car was totaled.
Dang, I wanted to see the weld up close. Lol. Thanks for the info sir!
You could see it just fine while it was still on the car. The weld looked good. Still, I'd want it replaced, both sides, with whatever was available, then done again with the new and updated component. This is too important to let go and wait.
@@jamesplotkin4674 Yes. That idea to weld the socket to the rod/shaft part is not well thought out. The new replacement one should have been the way to go from the beginning. But too many times they are looking for production savings before they consider durability and potential breakage and the loos of control problems when they finally break at the weld!!!
I'm curious as to why 2009-2012 Ford Flex isn't recalled also, same setup correct?
Thanks for the video it was well put together. I’m having these symptoms with my explorer on the rear end. Thought I could cheap route it and replaced the sway bar bushings along with the sway bar end links. To no avail it still wobbles. So I replaced the rear upper control arms as I noticed the bushings in/on the arms looked shot. The rubber was chipped away and I thought aha this could be the problem. Again it didn’t solve my back end from kicking out. I think these toe links look to be the culprit of my issue. I’ll jack up from the lower control arm like you had in the video to see if I can feel any play. Thanks for the pro tips!
Have one in the shop today and the ball socket popped out while we were knocking the tire off of the hub😅 very rusty here in central Illinois. The bolt is so rusted and stripped the weld nut/clip.. i will have to torch / cut the bushing and bolt out as there is no other access to the nut or bolt..
So thankful for this video, I started having the same problem with my 2017 Flex, I took it to Ford dealerships and say it was my rear brakes, didn’t fix the problem, I m waiting for Ford starts the recall and they don’t even have the same part to put a new one till November 10 2020
I've replaced my fair share of these toe arms on a fleet of Taurus police Interceptors. It's one of the first thing I check when I inspect them.
Best Ford Mechanic I've come across, cool dude
Thanks 👍
Yup that's a problem. Thanks for sharing the info Brian.
Ford really picks some great part suppliers!
Maybe you should work for Ford and supervise parts purchasing. I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong if you're there supervising everything.
This welded end is an engineering issue to save a few $'s per part, Shameful.
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I'm thinking that this is an in house part, and as for the failure rate, it has more to do with the condition of our roads in this country than bad engineering. The random potholes, especially on the interstates is of epidemic proportions. Cruising at 70mph, and hitting some of these monsters it's easy to see why parts can't withstand it.
Mark K my Toyota hasn’t fallen apart and it drives the same roads. As stated above, Ford sets the specs for the suppliers, if they want better they pay more if they want to increase profits they spec out crappy welded parts instead of the obviously better second part. Just the usual, which choice do you think they went with?
I’m taking in my 2015 explorer for diagnostic. I’m feeling a vibration & slight noise at certain speeds. The worst is growing from 45-50 mph. I’m hoping is just an exhaust problem. I’ll have them replace all the recalls while I’m there.
I have seen one broken at my dealer in the motor city!
Great video as always. Just further reinforces my current view of modern day Ford vehicles. 👎
Go drive your toyolet
Check your rear tire wear. Our 2014 flex developed horrible wear to the inner part of both tires.
My alignment guy caught it and noted both links were really loose at the ball joint.
Ford replaced it under our extended warranty in 2018. I'm not sure if we have the new part or not. My ford dealer said they would exchange them under warranty anyway
I went to the Ford dealer to schedule a PTU fluid change and asked about the rear toe link recall. My 2015 non-PP is not part of the recall
At 5:38, it looks like the the bolt was loose and was allowing the toe link to move around. Look at the shiny black paint on the left side.
Yes I had to use a breaker bar to loosen the bolt before using an impact with the long extension.
Does this recall include the 2013 Taurus Limited?
They should all be replaced but only certain models are under recall. You can check your car here- owner.ford.com/tools/account/maintenance/recalls.html
👍🏼 Question, and thank you in advance. On a 2003 Ford explorer do i need to add friction modifier on both front and back differentials.
Rear only, but that's if you have the limited slip rear diff. You know how to check to be sure? Lift rear with both wheels off ground, transmission in neutral, rotate one wheel while watching opposite side. If it rotates opposite, its an open diff, no modifier needed. If it rotates the same direction, put the motorcraft modifier in with full synthetic 75w140 like the F150 9.75 rear diff. Service every 60,000 to 80,000 to keep it happy.
Ford dealer performed this on my parent's Explorer. BUT forgot to tighten everything up exaggerating the original problem and almost killed them. Serious issue.
Geez
incompetent people hope he was fired
Appreciate this video. Family 2017 explorer 140k having some rear suspension unusual handling. Doesn’t sound like this necessarily but will definitely check it as well
Is this more common in the rust belt, or is it an issue with the toe link in general?
When they are talking weld fracturing it would be the weld quality not rust.
Another great video of valuable info. We need clones of you for the other vehicle manufacturers screw ups.
Gotta love independent rear suspension....so many things to wear...
I had a 72 Torino Country Squire wagon, nice car rode nice until the rubber bushings in the rear suspension wore out. Step on the gas turn left a little bit, hit the brakes turn right a bit. And it cost a small fortune to repair because of the number of links in that suspension. Simplicity was not on anyone's mind when they designed that one! ! !
Look at kia soul so simple rear end suspension I just changed the shock absorbers and it was a breeze. That's how you make cars nice and simple.
Sadly 2009 flex is not in the recall...i noticed that when it was icy or snowy out the back end will feel floaty. Found that exact weld cracked and that sideways ball joint worn. Replaced them and it rides like a dream.
hello friend good night I have a 2012 ford explorer 2wd on the passenger side my tire moves like the clock from 9 to 3 and the bearing and the cv axle are repaired and this is the same as the problem9
We just got another recall in the mail today, I think this is recall is #7
Thank you for this explanation. Does this defect affect the balance of the car and accidents may occur in the front of the car, for example, and what is the technical impact of this?
Thanks for the clarification ؟
Fine job, Brian. Another clear explanation...
Great information. Quality was job #7 on the day this part was engineered.
Thank You Again Ford Master 👨🏼🔧🧰😀👍🏼
It's Oct 24, 2024. I have a 2016 Ford explorer. I JUST received a letter about a recall of a 21R01 rear toe link
Just had a letter sent to me about the recall ,I'm scheduling the fix asap.
All right you do a very good job on your videos good explanation good technical knowledge very professional I have a question I have several Tauruses I have 205 Tauruses and one of them seems to run okay add a neutral you can wrap it up and it sounds strong as it could be once you put it into gear and go down the highway and experienced a hell of a light Minor Hill it starts popping, what's wrong
Question, 2007 ford escape v6 I put in a new subframe rotors, pads, shocks,lower control arms, truck is sturdy, but when braking forward, slight jurking, O.i had a broken spring passenger side when the subframe rotted out, could this be a bad control bushing or bad shock tower, GLEN. Thanks for your chanel, it is one of the best..
Thank you so much, will the car need a wheel alignment afterwards ??
yes
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Does this happens to a 2015 Ford Explorer ? 🤔
I just fixed 1 yesterday that the recall was done the bolt was falling out on a cop car
Ford replaced my rear toe links August 2019
My 2011 Ford Flex broke a Lateral Arms this morning. Lost control almost crashed. I don't see any recall from that part. The Ball link popped off.
Do you need a 4 wheel alignment after these are replaced ??
Technically you just need a rear toe adjustment.
I believe this is the same recall I received a little while ago about my 2009 Flex, would that be right??? Haven't done it yet unfortunately.
Great video , but I have 2013 Ford Exp Sport...I just examined mine, it doesn't even look like that, actually looks pretty new and is all one piece , hard to explain but holds by a bracket that covers both sides. i also have a tow pkg. The thing is when I go to my Ford Owner acct it does have the recall . What say you?
My recalled replacement just broke at the ball/socket end :/
2016 ford flex
Hey, I have a Ford F-150 2008 5.4L 3v and it’s making a ticking noise and when I accelerate it makes it faster and when I step on the gas while driving I feel like it’s misfiring
I have a 2010 ford taurus limited that was wearing tires on the inside of rear. The mechanics didn't catch this during state inspection either. After three sets of tires, three alignments, and two wheel bearings, and two rear shocks, finally two techs at Peppy's found the issue.
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2016 f150 is sending codes p2198, sensor stuck p2196 and p1450, unable to bleed up fuel tank. What to do ?
What about noise? My wife’s 2016 makes a squeaking noise randomly. I’ve inspected the front end and nothing. It’s weird.
What is the part number for the newly designed one piece ford explorer rear toe like?
I have a 04 freestar sel minivan and it has codes for egr and the back exhaust started to have heavy black smoke and the car started to shack and slowed down. What does that mean ?? Need your ford expertise
Thanks for the heads-up on this issue. Also appreciate the proper method of checking this type of suspension. Are there any good aftermarket sources for this part?
Does this part cross reference with the 2013 Lincoln mks?
Question… i had the 19s17 complete on my explorer 2015 back in 2020… does that mean I have to have 21R01 done now? Thank you
I just had this done for a 2013 Explorer XLT-10/7/2020. so you are saying they didn't have the parts? Then how did they do it? Was Wayne County Ford in Honesdale, PA. Very clean shop, huge looks A+ to me.
I've had 3 Ford Taurus Police Interceptors in the past 5 or 6 years and Ford sent the recall notices to me on all of them so they were replaced at the dealership but I was always considering finding a small rack and pinion from a front wheel drive car and mounting it in there so I could have that crab walk and opposing rear steer if I ever wanted to. But I never determined the steering angle that was it was possible at possible at those rear spindles...
Another annoying things that fail on these cars are the PTO units if you don't change the fluid (and Ford won't let you change the fluid under warranty unless they're really hungry and bored) the windshield washer sprayer pump fails prematurely, the blenddoor in the dashboard and last but not least.....oil leaks around the two sensors on the front of both valve covers on the passenger side of the engine.
Not to mention if you have a 3.5 twin Turbo ecoboost boost or the 2.0 single Turbo ecoboost you're gonna have upper valve train carbon deposits and lower intercooler fractures/cracks and fluid build-up if you don't install a catch can that doesn't come with the car and is not 50 state legal so good luck putting a catch can on a California model.
Hello Brian . . . Thank's for this update recall .
Got a question on a 2005 f150 speedo reads faster than your running could this be a problem with the speed sensor input or output any help would be greatly appreciated
2016 Explorer, replaced original left toe link at 90k. Have been back twice since for same repair with less than 500 miles on each subsequent repair. Toe link sheared hanging down from truck... No heavy use or off road use. Wife will not drive it anymore, ford keeps replacing it saying "it's fine now". Could this stress be caused by another part failure placing undue stress on the toe link?
Thank you for all your videos!!, whats the best spark plug for 2017 f150 3.5 Ecoboost?, thank you!
It makes me happy to know so many of us are traveling in highly engineered death traps.