Don't Get Burned Buying Counterfeit Ford Motorcraft Parts!
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Thank you for the video....... I've been buying motorcraft parts of my 6 liter powerstroke online......... I thought the new packaging looked weird..........I lucked out those were the style packages I was getting but then again a good point like you said it might be old stock that people getting rid of I'm going to start looking closely now thank you
There is an amazon seller named MOTORCRAFT do you think they are ok?
The real problem with counterfeit items on Amazon is if a seller uses Amazon FBA they can ship in hundreds of counterfeit parts Amazon will add them to inventory in the warehouse and ship it as Amazon itself or any other FBA seller
Can you check out Pensacola Fuel Injection Inc, specifically their early 04 F250 6.0 injector wire harness? Please!
Thanks for sharing👍
If OEM parts from the dealer weren't outrageously marked up, people wouldn't shop around and get scammed too. Just like a new truck, markups are insane sometimes.
some not OEM parts are much better. for example, mevotech hard terrain ball joints have a grease port, much better quality, instead of motorcraft with same price
Many of the more common, oem maintenance items are nearly the same price and in some cases cheaper than aftermarket. I see it every week when I order fleet parts. Always calling for 3 prices before submitting orders. Dealer, oreilly, and advance auto. Ford usually wins.
@@perjian1697 maybe for Ford. Not for Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, etc. My neighbor works for a Chevy dealer locally and there are some parts that are well over 100% markup for no damn reason other than because they can.
Many good dealership parts desks will discount the OEM price if you ask them to meet you halfway to the online discount price.
Sooo, are you justifying basically standing up for the pirates that are out there trying to sell you and everyone else fake parts?🙄
Quality costs money. Its a fact. Fake pirated sales effect economics. Your post doesnt mention that…🤔
I ran into this exact issue with Spark Plugs last year. I bought them on Amazon from FixaPart. I left a lengthy review with pictures comparing the 515's I pulled out, the 546's I bought from Amazon and the 546's I bought from the local AutoZone. There was a huge difference. I had a nasty misfire after installing the counterfeit's. I removed them and returned them. No questions asked.
AutoZone sells junk....
@@wildestcowboy2668 .. wow you really like commenting don't you! I think you're on just about every single one!
@@locknload9143 Did I tell a lie? Or did my facts offend the spinless Joe Biden loving gun banning clowns out there?
@@locknload9143 that commentor only has 1o comments, you have roughly 38. Simples maths
@@wildestcowboy2668they do but sometimes you can’t find certain parts so you don’t have a choice but to go to AutoZone. I have an old Lincoln car that’s over 20 years old. Certain parts are discontinued by ford so I have to get them at AutoZone or oreillys
Extremely helpful and informative as always. Sometimes I rewatch your other videos as a nice refresher because of how well you articulate certain issues, repairs, and even little side notes from your experience, that have helped me more times than I can count with both my 2nd Gen 5.0 Explorer and especially my 05 5.4 3v Expedition. Thank you for taking the time to teach all of us, and have a blessed day. 👍
I bet the counterfeit guys are going to take pointers from this video 🤣
They are usualy too lazy to do that
Exactly what I was thinking
You already know they will lol
Exactly
Well at least it will cost them more time, money or both. If someone's going to rip me off they better be working their ass off to get away with it!
Another good video. As a tech myself you always keep the old part and compare the new one to the old one. I have seen the new part have updated design. However, keep and compare the two for mounting bolts and other issues. Another problem is the factory don't use grease when installing coil on plug boots. When you remove it for plug replacement the boot will tear causing misfire. Use spray lubricant and wait a while before removing coil on plug.
Ground strap on real plug looks beefier.
Thank you for this!
Brian is a damn walking ford genius..lol..BEST ford guy on TH-cam..imo
Homie literally linked the fake ones for us to buy in a older video🤣
Hey loco I actually had this exact same problem with AC Delco coil , plugs and parts from Amazon for the past two years.... great video,....
I think Advance Auto Parts have doing a good job lately. Been burned by AutoZone too many times. O'REILLY is ok, a little high unless you beat them down.
Bought my plugs at Advanced Auto Parts. They were less than the amazon ones by $2 each , dealer $5 each less; and much less likely to be fakes. Keep up the great videos.
Excellent, this video is a prototypical example of why I am subscribed and find value in pretty much everything posted on this channel about my car. I probably do not even remember to hit the "👍" button enough -- will try to more often. Five stars!
Right On, Great Video, I have purchased aftermarket parts from Napa per customer request in the Elgin line that are clearly branded MotorCraft, and always thought it strange. Some work, most do not. Especially the blower motor resistors. Never Work.
I had several Ford Trucks in a fleet that had counterfeit plugs in them. We had all kinds of misfires and running issues. We changed them out to OEM and have had no more problems. Great Video.
Went to Arizona Automotive Institute in 1976/1977 then worked as a mechanic at a Ford Dealership from 1978 to about 1985. Was there during the start of electronic ignition and electronic fuel injection. Then for some reason I went to college. Really glad I stumbled onto your channel. Things have come a long way. Thanks got the great content.
Wow mark I was born in 76 so you must be in your 80'$. Hope u have a few more years left my friend.
Brian, I also noticed the radius on the bottom of the ground strap on the spark plugs is different. The OEM plug has a radius and the fake is much flatter. I'm guessing the OEM radius design is to give a little longer life by providing more equidistant spark paths along the radius as the ground strap gets arc gouged to death. On the coils I noticed the plastic parting lines are different. Also, the ejector pins in the plastic molds are also in different locations.
Yeah, the OEM had a chamfered end of the tube and the counterfeit was ground flat and sharp. You don't want sharp hard edges in the combustion chamber or you will have a hot spot and pre-ignition engine knocking. Be careful SVT folks with superchargers and 900HP+ dyno pulls. Maybe that is why your engines fail?
Also noticed on this example that the coil bags, one said "COIL" and one said "IGNITION COIL", not sure if it is always like that.
Fake actually looks better in appearance: Threads, weld, machining...
My question would be on the plugs regardless of who made it which one is actually better ?
Mike41 yeah i was thinking the same thing . I mean if they’re decent quality parts then what’s the problem other than i’m sure ford doesn’t like it .
A new pickup can be over 70K and ford buys it’s parts from the lowest bidder
@@cabinbills6743
I was fixing my 98 Ranger , bought parts from local dealership , chinese made . Go figure .
2018Burb SK well thank god you didn’t get any of those cheap Chinese knockoffs on amazon
I bought HID replacement lights and plugs for a Toyota on Amazon. It took me 3 tries with Amazon to get the bulbs to be legit. The plugs were right the first time. I like saving money but I find it hard to trust Amazon and the BS they sell. I just stopped doing business with them. I now just buy at Walmart or Jet. So far all the parts I have purchased and other items have been fully legit. I will pass on all Amazon purchases. Good video. Now the cheaters and fakes know what they need to do to improve their counterfeit efforts haha. Love the channel. Keep up the good work.
Amazon = shit
Ford does this too though. Rebranding at least. Just purchased rtv ta-357 online, underneath the motorcraft label was Loctite 5900. Thought that was an issue until i went to the ford dealership and had the exact same label issue covering a loctite brand rtv. BUYING loctite 5900 rtv under that name is much cheaper as well.
Lol the closed captions
"hello and welcome back to the fort I'm a calico channel"
I had to turn captions on just so I could read that lol
Google has a lot of work to do on their captions.
Chinese knock off caption writers.
As an old retired mechanic let me say we saw counterfeit tune up parts in the early 1970's. I walk into my local ford dealership for my parts needs to ensure service life. Stay safe all......
Great video. Good job pointing out potential differences between fakes and genuine OEM's.
Deep fakes: $
OEM: $$
Now we wonder why OEM tend to be more expensive than others.
I'll stick with OEM as much as I can.
If you shine a uv flashlight / black light on the genuine boxes, there is a Ford symbol and "ford parts" shown. But you can't see it otherwise.
Yes, also very easy way to find it out.
Brian, a quick update:
I checked the Motorcraft DG508 Ignition Coil suppliers you recommended and one of them has a clear counterfeit posted on Amazon. The bad supplier is Auto Parts Wholesale.
One customer checked his part with Motorcraft and they told him the part he bought is counterfeit, and it was from APW.
Just FYI brother.
Keep up the terrific videos!
They really help me with the restoration of a 2000 Ford Expedition 5.4L Eddie Bauer 4WD.
Really where? I saw a few on there complaining they were fake from amazon and other sellers with pictures and they were obviously OEM so not sure how credible the reports are until I have pictures.
@@FordTechMakuloco Yeah, you really hit on a tough issue for any consumer. I bought what I think is an OEM part based on your video, but the spring isn't protruding from the sleeve. The old part is definitely OEM and the spring doesn't protrude on that one either. My new part has the white mark on the electrical cap, but its not level, more of an upward angled swipe. I'm trying to find the bag it came in to check for the holes. Otherwise, checking everything you said, it seems legit. I had no idea of the problem until I watched your video. Unbelievable.....I hear you about pictures. Maybe I should buy one and take photos to confirm.
@@FordTechMakuloco I uploaded photos to your Instagram account. The coil photos might be a "deep fake" as you call it because the spring doesn't extend beyond the sleeve, no printing on the mounting bezel. But everything else in those photos, as you'll see, fit the OEM criteria you mentioned. What do you think?
Thank you for the vid! Can you please cut the plugs(like a plug chop) to compare?
Sounds like a good suggestion for "Project Farm".
I would have never been able to tell the difference. Thanks for this mate.
Counterfeiters know how to improve their game after this video.
Of course counterfeiters know the differences. They study the Ford parts and copy what they can while keeping manufacturing cost low. In reality, they can watch this video and giggle at all the differences he failed to point out or missed.
It would cost the counterfeit manufacturers shit tons of money to adjust for everything they screwed up. Right now they're at a "close enough" point and won't bother to adjust their process.
Shared in all the ford groups i'm part of. Thanks for all the help you give the ford community
Glad I'm seeing this video. Was gonna buy Bosch coils and plugs ($220) for my '02 F150 with the 5.4 2v but then saw a few vids recommending MC's products over any other plugs. And was gonna go with Amazon coils and plugs but for $88 it seemed too good to be true and while the plugs looked fine, reviews showed the coils were bad, so back to Rockauto and MC stuff there brought the cost to $300 which I'm okay with for peace of mind, reliability, economical and effective cost wise especially as a DIY'er. Just wished I did this while I was doing the intake manifold/plenum, the fuel rails are gonna be in the way of #7 and #8. Greatly appreciate the pointers and the video ::)
Thanks for sharing this info. Anymore info on the 5.0v8 would help. As in counterfeit parts
Brian, it's your attention to detail that helps us viewers. The un-initiated would do well to pay attention. Installing sub-par quality always comes back to bite us in the you-know-what! Thx.
Amazon and Ebay have a good return policy. I bought and installed, one cheap, counterfeit, ignition coil and it's still good after 30,000 miles. Performance has been good too.
Love watching and learning about servicing newer Fords... All my Fords use Standard, non-metric tools and easy to work on. But been buying 2011 to 2016 Fords and it's whole different world on these cars and trucks :)
The specifics that you point out for fake coils can (mostly) be easily and quickly copied by the counterfeiters: a metallic Sharpie line, holes punched in the bags, etc. Those can be too easily remedied to look just like the OEM coils. What really caught my eye (especially on the poorer-quality fake) were the MOLD LINES, especially on the rubber boots. These are high-voltage devices and precautions are taken in manufacture to negate the flow of that electricity via the insulating rubber (or silicone) boot, and a common failure of high-voltage insulators are via cracks, and mold lines (in the rubber boot, in this instance). If I opened a new coil from the packaging and saw obvious mold lines running longitudinally on the insulating boot (from one end to the other end), I would promptly take it back to the counter and ask for a real OEM coil and not a fake. The mold lines are especially grievous on the poor fake! The OEM also has some longitudinal mold lines on the boot, but they are not as pronounced, and also not appear to run the entire length of it; there is a section, a band that goes all the way around, that appears to be perfectly smooth, no mold lines. This would make a good barrier to the flow of high-voltage current, but the fake boots, with obvious mold lines running all the way from one end of the boot to the other end, are the giveaway to me. One of the ways they can make the fakes so cheaply is to cut corners in the manufacturing process, and quality manufacturing usually leaves no mold lines, or very fine and clean mold lines.
On the coils, the Ford one said "Ignition Coil". The counterfeit just said "Coil"
@@pantherplatform E3: We hate your ignition coils, and soon you will too
Those blew out every coil on a Dodge I put them in years ago.
@@JasonW. Do you mean the SPARK PLUGS blew out your ignition coils OR the "fake" coils blew out your OEM coils?
@@TheOzthewiz all factory coils failed, one by one, after putting in the E3 (edit: E3 spark plugs). New OEM coils then started to fail after replacing failed ones. Replaced E3 spark plugs with Champion and replaced last failed OEM coil, no problems since for years.
Yeah I was wondering if anyone else noticed the lack of "ignition" in the fake offering. I was surprised that he didn't mention that.
@@JasonW. I've always hated E3 POS plugs ever since I tried it on a Flathead Briggs. Ran like shit with one of those and lugged in some thicker grass than normal. I now just use NGK in everything.
I am mexican and l do not speak english very well but l understant all that you explaint in your tutorials that you publish l love watching your vídeos and practiced them with may cars l have many thankes for sharing your experience
Great how motorcraft even calls you Bougie for buying OEM sparkplugs
Problem is at least 40 years old, not just Ford. Guy rolls up to a store, says "I bought a bankruptcy sale, I can sell you this stuff cheap" and some shops are dumb enough to do it. Oil filters, inkjet cartridges, cell phone batteries, lots of things.
I almost bought some Motorcraft plugs from an eBay seller 6 months ago, but this crossed my mind that they may not be genuine. I'm glad I didn't buy them now and didn't know the fake parts market was so prevalent.
I bought my coils from ford. Paid a pretty penny. I had a failure before 5000k miles. The originals were perfect at 100k but I thought hey, replace plugs and coils at 100k. Wish I hadn’t.
I bought MOTORCRAFT plugs from AutoZone and one of the grounding straps fell off. I see they sell junk also
And I’ll bet they will argue with you when you go to return them say it’s your fault
I wonder if that is what Rock Auto sells? I see lots of Motorcraft parts that are comparable in price to aftermarket.
Autozone sells genuine Motorcraft. If you had an issue take it back for refund , no problem.
@@joehastings1 Had a second plug fall apart and got them all replaced FREE., but i had to do the job TWICE
Thanks; Just checked my spare coil for authenticity. The perforated bag, the coil and silver paint mark check out. Was bought at Advance Auto parts. I also have some old coils that were pulled from 2001 Expy 4.6L and they have a green sticker with OEM PN and engineering number. Also brass inserts for the mounting bolt. I think these are perhaps early versions.
Ford has a task force for this kind of fraud ? Where do I send my resume ?
Same. I'd be honored to help keep my fellow ford fanatics safe from counterfeit parts
Many thanks for something I would have never known! I guess some people think it’s a good idea to scam the hell out of us
out of our hard earned money!
I really appreciate the information and all the fantastic videos you do for us!!!
👍👍👍👍👍
Settle down Peter and let your hero sleepy Joe Biden fix this mess.
@@wildestcowboy2668 you’re just 2 years late on your reply, maybe you should take a nap with sleepy joe
be careful there are counterfeit NGK plugs on amazon as well
I only buy NGK plugs for my car. But I don't trust Amazon or eBay to order those from. I find it safer and easier to just use Rock Auto.
@@SkylineFTW97 rock auto is one of my favorite websites👍
@@SkylineFTW97 It is often cheaper to buy on RA as well. I like to price compare between the two and have found Rock Auto to actually be cheaper than Amazon on pretty much everything. Amazon's prices have been going up over the years to help pay for the "free" Prime shipping that comes with your paid membership and it's almost always easier to buy from Rock Auto and pay a few bucks for shipping that's maybe 1-2 days slower. And Rock Auto is more honest about their aftermarket parts--if it's OEM then it's OEM, if it isn't then it's clearly indicated. I got a serpentine belt for my F-250 shipped to my door for around $11, even if the sucker only lasts 20k miles before wearing out I don't mind it! I think the OEM belt was in the $30 range and I'd be a little over $40 after shipping.
@@406Steven Exactly. I try to spring a bit more for quality parts whenever possible, but if you have a beater, it doesn't really matter. But for my daily, my new (to me) 2013 Honda Accord, I'd rather pay the $200 for a decent set of NGK ignition coils than deal with cheap, defective parts.
I've heard 50/50 luck with rock auto unfortunately I haven't heard from anyone about big ticket buys just petty wipers and small project buys
Just stumbled on this. Superb job with a well laid out analysis.
Thanks for the warning. You're a saver. 👍💓🙂
The Motorcraft logo is in the ceramics. The counterfeit is printed on. That's how I was taught about the spark plug issue.
This is a nice study guide on how to make a better counterfeit.
When I buy motorcraft on amazon I always make sure I order from motorcraft.
Isn't that stuff sold and shipped by amazon though? Who is to say they are getting parts from a reputable dealer?
@Sam S Got some knockoffs from Rockauto?
Very very well done! I appreciate the magnification which really helps tell the tale between real and fake. Thanks.
And deep fakes
wonder how many 'fake parts' I put on my expedtion before I traded it in. Won't make that mistake again! thank you for the info.
At 15:53 something jumped out at me. I worked as an engineering tech in plastic injection molding. You'll see what looks like little spikes of plastic sticking out of a ledge detail halfway up the part This SCREAMS cheap low tolerance tooling. CHINESE tooling. It's called flash. The plastic under 15,000 psi creeps out the two halves of the mold. China decimated the toolmakers in America. And yes, strong high glass or carbon fiber nylon has a duller look.
I ordered a set of filters for my 6.0 powerstroke on amazon. Total fakes, weren't packaged right at all. Glad I knew what the originals were supposed to look like. I only buy in person at parts store now.
I just ordered both plugs and coils from rock auto. I will inspect them carefully and report back what I find!
Spark plugs look good. Only difference is Motorcraft logo on the porcelain is in a blue colored ink. They are a different model of spark plug from what he shows here tho
Report them to Amazon. I had the same thing with a seller advertising Oregon saw chain that wasn't genuine. I sent it to Oregon to confirm it and reported it to Amazon who closed the seller's account. Of course they probably just open another account in a different name.
I love when he zooms in and says “let’s see if we can get you guys- oh this camera is so nice”
The reality is you’re paying for one Chinese made part over another.
Exactly and who's to say which is the better product? Companies like; Ford and Amazon are the ones that are screwing the consumer with cheap quality products sold as "premium products" sold at a premium price.
While i agree, the issue is youre paying $60 for a $3.75 coil and expecting it to be a genuine part. I wont lie, i have used the cheap coils you find on ebay in 2 of my trucks, my old 02 5.4 F150 and my 05 navigator and now tossing a spare set from my F150 into my 02 GT. But that was with me knowing they were cheap since i bought 3 sets for the f150 at $27/set and my lincolns for $30. I would have been pissed if i payed $100 or more for a set thinking it was a genuine part even if they gave me another 10yrs of service.
@@Elver_Galarga_jugo I guess what we consider the word "genuine" to mean and does it relate to quality is what it all boils down to. Neither product is manufactured by Ford, it's just a matter of which outsourced company has a license deal with Ford and does that relate to any quality difference. Usually a manufacturer will go with its cheapest option. I agree the counterfeit part is purposely trying to mislead but it's not necessarily any better or worse quality. Frankly I think Amazon should be liable for selling counterfeit anything in that they are the middle man.
The arches on the counterfeit plugs are squared, the oem are curved .
Now why would anyone copy a product and sell it for profit? Good content as always.
When I was with GM/Delco in the 1980s, we had a guy who was getting dealer mechanics to save him the real GM/Delco boxes, then buying them and reboxing aftermarket parts into them so that he could then sell them to independent shops so they could show there customers they were using genuine GM/Delco parts to fix their cars. He was making a ton of money.
I didn’t get fakes but I did get knock offs , on purpose , the knock of coils were $23 for a set of 8 for my 02 grand marquis and they been running great and come in yellow or red
How can anyone thumbs down and not appreciate this info.
The counterfeiters are where they can't be sued. Guess where lol
I bet it rhymes with china
Middle East and most of asia is near impossible to prosecute anything copyright/counterfeit related.
Great video! What problems would people run in to if they actually installed these knock offs?
Gaudin Ford is a solid seller on amazon.com. You can buy direct, too. They've helped me out in the past.
I got burned about four years ago. Eight counterfeit Motorcraft coils on E bay. The first one went after three months. Luckily I saved the functioning originals, which had over 140k on them. I replaced the counterfeits as they went bad with the originals.
Do you think they are doing this with motorcraft fluids ? Like motorcraft transmission fluid? I’ve always found it cheaper on eBay and now I’m really worried it my have been counterfeit.
Thank you for bringing this to the surface, and for the suggestions.
As well if you look at the 3 indented areas by the securing bolt, one area has a number, the fakes do not.
Thanks for that buddy. We have in #Venezuela a flood of fake parts for years. It´s almost impossible to find a genuine part this days.
Dislikes are by the counterfeit fellas.
Thanks and yes! Just got burned by a "genuine" motor craft icp sensor for a 7.3 powestroke.
I wish I had seen this before I replaced my plugs the first time. I did the timing set replacement and pulled the plugs out. The ground electrodes had completely burned away. They were a little over a year old with about 10,000 miles on them.
Nice. Note the plug machined taper on the seal as well...
All the more reason to support your local dealer, and the people who work there. Amazon is the new Walmart, it seems like a good idea, but in the end you will just limit your choices of where to purchase things, and with that get good pricing. Cheap isn't always better, even if it a genuine part that shows up at your door.
I always buy OEM for tune up stuff, a bit more costly but works every time. My older brother's Lincoln V8 was diagnosed as needing injectors, My cheap assed brother didn't go to the dealer he went to ebay for his new Injectors. he called me and said they only cost $35 I said each NO for all, I said send them back they wont work, good thing he only paid $35 for all that hollow plastic. I still laugh about it when I talk to him, at his best he is an average farm mech. I retired from the shop floor in 93, so I know nothing about modern drivability , except who I trust on that kind of thing. saves me money in the long run.
Thank you for the information. Since I own a Ford vehicle, I will look out for these fakes.
This stinks since I thought that I was getting a great deal when purchasing these off of EBay and Amazon
Richard Price leave bad reviews on the seller saying they are fakes
Richard Price,
You were forgetting the "no free lunch" rule, and the "if something seems too good to be true" rule.
@@rahrah8076 it's hard to if you didn't know. Creating the Ford packing and such.
@ no parts in particular...I was just commenting on how a genuine Park may not be so genuine.
I trust Taska for parts on eBay, but will for sure support the legit sellers on Amazon.
Tire pressure sensors and key fobs are also counterfeited in high volumes.
Great informative video. Will be nice to open the coils up and see how they look inside. Also the people making fakes will now be able to improve their products...
Ultra supercool to see how to on my truck a 2014 F-150
I believe I hav run across some fake coils at Walmart,the plugs are in the old packaging and look right,,but the coils look like the cheap fake u hav with know numbers at all on top ,didnt look right to me so didn’t purchase,glad I made that decision..
New icon - St. Ford the Wonderworker!
considering ford quality sometimes the fakes may last longer LOL
I’m pretty sure I bought a set of counterfeit o2 sensors a couple years back that were marked Motorcraft. The bags they came in were “Motorcraft” but they were a Bosch sensor with Motorcraft markings and they looked nothing like the original sensor I pulled out of the car.
I am not as versed as some guys are on here, but I can keep a lot of the copy parts off my Fords by going to the stealership. I know, there is a mark up, but I know with little doubt that the parts are genuine! And for my 88 T-Bird turbo coupe, she only gets the best! The aftermarket parts really make my car run like crap. And with the forced induction, the line between performance and rebuilding the motor becomes very very fine!
Two Chinese gave this two thumbs down
Now its 70 chinese
I wish I had your level of experience .. Spark plugs arrived for my Crown Vic today , ordered from Rock Auto.. They seem legit .. but I'm stairing at the plugs with trust issues. Only think I am noticing is I don't seem to have the thick gobby discoloured weld that the genuine plug has .. Put the top of the plug where the coil clips onto it seems to be the same colour as your genuine plug. I am pretty sure that my plugs are the real thing , but your video was a surprising eye opener . It's disturbing that people make counterfeit parts and do it so well .. Thank you for the video , me and your other viewers really appreciate this.
The bar code/numbers is also different, as well as one says Ignition coil and the other simply says coil. At 15:45, you'll also notice the different hole on the coil boot, size/shape and location. Big giveaways there. These counterfeit parts are disgusting and need to be stopped. Ebay and Amazon state that they are trying to fight this, but I don't think they are. I remember years ago when I would report Ebay sellers using other people's pictures and trying to scam people out of their money, and Ebay would tell me they are doing something about it, but weeks later, the same ad would still be online and there would be several other fake ads by the same seller. They don't care, as long as they get the money from the sale, even if it is a fake sale.
The other difference of coil is in the printing style - the original looks like fine, printed or a high end fibre laser marker, the bad copy (both really) look like a rough, splatty CO2 with a bigger beam and lower beam uniformity/quality.
Man you're just helping the counterfeiters out
Check out the threads on the OEM Ford spark plug. I wouldn't want to put that in my new heads!
Too much like this on the market, china, india etc made
Yeh a freind told me that he said the reliability had declined so switched brands for the various automotive sensors and now sees a lower failure rate
Indian atuff is actually better than you'd expect. Because they actually manufacture it how they're told to, unlike the chinese who ALWAYS shortcut.
All the Ecosports we get in the USA are made in India. So India parts will be OEM
I did not know counterfeit was that prevalent and as good as it is here........but seems the first spark you showed, the real Ford plug threads did not look to good while the fake ones looked better?....Maybe just the lighting.....
Thanks for the Great PSA!! Your always helping the working man! Keep up your Great Videos!
Looking at what a disaster the 3 valve 5.4 was, perhaps they just needed counterfeit replacement engines.
Perfect timing with this video, been meaning to order new plugs!
So as a backyard mechanic, we would have no idea about packaging, or parts discrepancies. Looks like we either buy from your list of third party vendors or direct from Ford. No other way for us to know. Pictures on ads can show OEM packaging and you would not know the counterfeit until you have the part in hand. Looks like Ford is responsible for the identification of counterfeit parts. We need a list from Ford of the third party counterfeiters.