@@_nom_ that would be cool but I think Meta is afraid users will cook their headsets. I have QGO installed on both my Quest 2 and 3 and it's a game-changer.
You didn't see WWDC or a recap? Apple is introducing a new locally running LLM that will be Siri, then if Siri cant handle the request it will be passed off to private cloud compute, apples own server based collection of ML models, THEN if that still isn't deemed applicable for the request then and only then will it be passed off to ChatGPT and llama etc with full end to end encryption btw.
Well. Goodbye VRC. I don't need a gaming company of all things getting my PI information. Who else is looking forward to Resonite's performance update?
I’m going to leave too. VRCHAT Does not have the right to collect PII form anyone. Also if you plan to go to Chillout VR let me know and I’ll join you there
Dont know if youve tried it BUT i got the v66 update, jumped straight in to see the new passthrough and it still was warping I did the power off option as it said it had updates (usually it does nothing, it sits updating for a few minutes and nothing changes) THIS time it updated and the passthrough kicked in 🤘🤘🤘
Some things i haven't seen answered anywhere: Can the multiple windows be placed anywhere in your space? I.e can I place a browser on my kitchen wall, and walk into the bedroom to look at the existing friends menu? Secondly, does this work in pass through? The videos I've seen are all in VR
So what's the actual v66 version were looking for to fix the passthrough? Because I got a v66 update and my passthrough is worse. Now there's way more distortion when I turn my head and the warping is just as bad
Wow dude. Already version 67 since I know I have it now and still no scope storage fix s*** is still broken meta with their constant broken promises. It's almost comical but more so pisses me off
Just a correction about Apple Intelligence: it’s the exact opposite of what you assumed, most requests use Apple’s models (either local or on the Apple servers) but if a request is better suited for a different model (general world knowledge for example) it will offer the option to pass it off to ChatGPT to the user. This part is opt in though, the user will need to manually enable it and confirm that they want to send their data off to OpenAI. The majority of requests will use Apple’s models
The only time I tried VR chat, I went to an 18+ server being that I was 28ish at the time and it was full, and I mean FULL of 10-13 year olds made me feel like a really uncomfortable, hopefully this will mean 18+ servers are actually 18+ servers. to any child that might read this, we don't care what you think your mental maturity is, if you're not 18 and over, don't go to those servers
If Apple downgrades the visuals of the cheaper Vision, there wouldn't be much of a point to picking them over any number of cheaper but still expensive and premium alternatives on the market already (Apple fanatics notwithstanding of course). Really, if Apple would just...stop being so Apple, $2000 US should be very doable if they just got rid of the eyesight and used lighter, cheaper materials in the body and it would be more comfortable to wear, especially long term. No need for a separate compute unit, except of course, it all comes down to the Apple tax.
You're talking about version 67, and I'm still waiting for version 66. It's ridiculous that they can keep coming out with. These new versions of new versions before the last new version is even fully rolled out to everybody
Has meta fixed the bug where apps can no longer access the android data directory? as that has broken a few projects i was working on but also beat saber modding (thats definitely not the main reason im raising this queston 😂)
In the V66 update, they claimed to have fixed the camera warping issue. However, after installing the update, I still experience the same warping problem.
not sure having 6 browsers in V67 is needed.... it's welcome... but I get by just fine with the 3 windows you get now ... wrapped around you.... is like having 3 large monitors.... maybe I will find a use for this new Vision like monitors everywhere thing....
3:16 Sorry, but using a smartwatch as a SlimeVR tracker is like using a spoon to dig a hole. You should've clarified that using anything but purpose-built trackers for SlimeVR is only a proof of concept. Most joycons, phones, smartwatches, etc. have a poor IMU that won't track well, and it reflects poorly on SlimeVR as a whole even though the fault lies with the trackers.
The warping fix was so shocking, cuz one day i boot up the quest like usual and the passthrough is instantly 10x better and somehow looks WAY less like a shitty android camera from 2009, just blew me away
The explanation of Apple Intelligence really does it an injustice. Processing for basic tasks is done on device, processing for more demanding tasks happens over encrypted communication with custom Apple servers. The ChatGPT integration is not only optional and can be permanently turned off, but it’s really only for the random tasks Apple Intelligence isn’t trained on like recipe ideas and condensing web information to answer questions.
When the quest three was compared to the Apple Vision Pro when it first came out There was a huge gap in its Capabilities and features. But now I feel like the quest three could go toe to toe with the Apple Vision Pro with all its new updates. Even though the Apple Vision Pro has micro OLED Lenses and eye tracking.
Pico 4S is most certainly a pretty bad name. As for it coming sooner than we thought... I mean, Pico 5 was predicted to come in the last 25-30% or so of this year before it was canned. The 4S coming out around that same time frame makes sense to me. Though what does not make sense to me is calling it a Pico 4S since unlike the Quest 3S it's the more powerful model. And second, the specs will probably be close to the leaked specs we had of the base Pico 5.
10:39 as someone critical of Apple, it'd be imperative that the combined price of the iPhone and the Apple Vision Mini (name pending) needs to match the Apple Vision Pro - it's so that they can make money back on the device (an iPhone can cost as much as 500 USD in raw materials at least), but also so that there's room in the budget to make it as good as it can be within the price bracket. The Pro was a misstep and Apple needs to make the sequel succeed. If not for themselves, then for the whole of VR so it can truly get mass adoption.
is the debris/water in the USB-C port warning still there in v67? i use v57 and suppress updates, with this usb warning the quest 3 is not usable in live competitions like online racing.
Going to fullscreen is pretty much broken in V67 new window mode. Controls are lost when switching to fullscreen, the only way to regain control is by closing the zombie window...
Pass through on vision pro already is lacking, if they decrease the quality even more it will be far below the quest 3. With the new warp fix I actually prefer the Quest 3
Is it just me or does the passthrough quality when recorded looks ALOT better then when you actually put on the headset. I got a meta quest 3 & yea I can see my phone & watch better but I just wanted to see if its just a me problem or thats just how it gets recorded. Which would make me believe if it looks that good record and its the same camera im looking at then why does the quality not compare?
I don’t get it. Super difficult to get the new updates you need to use pc to update early And still after the update you don’t get the futures So why let me to update ? I am complaining everywhere that I got v66 and passthrow is terrible and looks the same
So now to use Vrchat in the future you need to give them your license, yep vrchat gonna die. Yes I hate kids on it but I don't want a random company that can get hacked having my driver license
i havent been able to use the multi-modal mode (using a controller and hand at the same time) for around a month now and some others are having a similar issue, has this been removed? or is just a problem for some users?
Can we stick a browser window aka youtube or some thing like this into other apps? Like watching browser videos in pokerstars? And when the pointer points onto the browser it must take control of that window. I think its not a big deal for meta to implement the browser multitasked and controllabel in other apps
Great video and happy for increase the Horizon os feature but ... I was thinking of buying the Quest3 personally I'm very hesitant in fact I still have a Quest2. With the Quest3, Meta opted for a change in thickness, switching to AR and specifically an MR viewer so VR is also present and still dominant fortunately, I would have preferred a VR viewer like SONY's PSVR2 with all those features. So it's worth waiting a little longer to see what the Quest4 will be like. But in light of a recent event my belief in standalone systems is wavering a bit. “Entitlement check failed, the game will quit” I'm afraid it will recur on all meta viewers although the software will be compatible with the successor, the old PERFECTLY WORKING model will not be able to run REGULARLY PAID SOFTWARE. I'm waiting to see what happens and in the meantime I hope for a stand alone Windows PCVR viewer where we all know how to resolve these unfortunate events.
It isn’t true, idk why he didn’t do any research at all. Five minutes of google will tell you that most of the processing is on device or on Apple encrypted servers. It’s only certain things like recipe ideas that it will ask if you want to use ChatGPT.
That was already confirmed a while ago. But it's not crazy news because it's just a trash PCVR headset with all of its gimped features. No HDR, no haptic feedback... basically no nothing other than it just another cabled PCVR headset.
FINALLY VRChat is doing SOMETHING!!!!! Still has a long way to go and a big choice to make. Market as nsfw or ban the nsfw. Right now they are keeping nsfw content while still advertising as a 13+ friendly game.
The "safety" stuff is why I left VRChat. But now we have Resonite! :-) If you tell people to report each other for everything and accept constant surveilance, and you end up with only bad people left. That's what happened in the USSR and in Nazi Germany. It's just how we're wired.
I think tethering the non-Pro Vision to an expensive iPhone is the best thing they could do to bring down the cost. You shouldn't factor in the cost for the iPhone to get the full price of the package. The Vision Pro is ridiculously expensive but a non-Pro Vision over $1000 ist still pretty expensive. I would guess over 95% of the people buying any Vision, Pro or non-Pro, already own the most expensive iPhone anyway. And it's not like when you buy a Vision Pro, you sell your iPhone because you don't need it to use the Vision Pro. So both groups will own the most expensive iPhone.
I'm not believe that in one minute stay vrchat safe not I'm still having trouble in the battery drain sorry the mysicle not trust vrchat I hope you understand
The future of the Quest is looking promising! The Quest 3 has become so much better with the updates since it's release.
As soon as the movement and object distortions are fixed 100% and when the new UI comes out, then it will be awesome.
@@nerddeku9675 I was wondering about this. 🤭
@@nerddeku9675 Better hand occlusion (and full arm occlusion) too!!!
Exactly… I never saw the same product evolves so much with just updates. The improvement on pass through was huge!
Like the quest 2, meta (i dont like that name at all) is alway making their hdm way better with their update, and i love that
ngl. Meta has been killing it with the last batch of Quest updates. Legit useful features that I'm finding myself using.
QuestGameOptimizer features built-in would be great.
@@_nom_ that would be cool but I think Meta is afraid users will cook their headsets. I have QGO installed on both my Quest 2 and 3 and it's a game-changer.
They also killed standalone modding
I'm pretty sure it wasn't their fault but you can always use shizuku and ZArchiver standalone to mod @@Chilito382
When he says car the bit of irish twang comes back 😂
Bro is the best VR news channel on youtube
He is 22 and so successful already
Actually most AI stuff will be happening on device or private cloud compute (apple’s servers) the external services are only supplemental
I was just about to write this too.
You didn't see WWDC or a recap? Apple is introducing a new locally running LLM that will be Siri, then if Siri cant handle the request it will be passed off to private cloud compute, apples own server based collection of ML models, THEN if that still isn't deemed applicable for the request then and only then will it be passed off to ChatGPT and llama etc with full end to end encryption btw.
Well. Goodbye VRC.
I don't need a gaming company of all things getting my PI information. Who else is looking forward to Resonite's performance update?
I’m going to leave too. VRCHAT Does not have the right to collect PII form anyone.
Also if you plan to go to Chillout VR let me know and I’ll join you there
Nice one. This was a news packed episode!
Will v67 finaly fix the wifi problem that came with v63?
Yeah, I’d like to know that as well! Haven’t been able to use 6 GHz WiFi with my Quest 3 since the V64 update. V66 didn’t fix the issue.
Right
Dont know if youve tried it BUT i got the v66 update, jumped straight in to see the new passthrough and it still was warping
I did the power off option as it said it had updates (usually it does nothing, it sits updating for a few minutes and nothing changes)
THIS time it updated and the passthrough kicked in 🤘🤘🤘
got the v67 still warping
@@darkpixelstudios thats crazy
Still waiting for windows to be detachable from the home bar. This freedom of windows is still good but not perfectly convenient
Some things i haven't seen answered anywhere:
Can the multiple windows be placed anywhere in your space? I.e can I place a browser on my kitchen wall, and walk into the bedroom to look at the existing friends menu?
Secondly, does this work in pass through? The videos I've seen are all in VR
So what's the actual v66 version were looking for to fix the passthrough? Because I got a v66 update and my passthrough is worse. Now there's way more distortion when I turn my head and the warping is just as bad
Wow dude. Already version 67 since I know I have it now and still no scope storage fix s*** is still broken meta with their constant broken promises. It's almost comical but more so pisses me off
Just a correction about Apple Intelligence: it’s the exact opposite of what you assumed, most requests use Apple’s models (either local or on the Apple servers) but if a request is better suited for a different model (general world knowledge for example) it will offer the option to pass it off to ChatGPT to the user. This part is opt in though, the user will need to manually enable it and confirm that they want to send their data off to OpenAI.
The majority of requests will use Apple’s models
The S in names started with iphones. Like 3GS and 4 and 4S. So the S means faster as in Speed . Anyway it doesn't mean cheaper for sure.
The only time I tried VR chat, I went to an 18+ server being that I was 28ish at the time and it was full, and I mean FULL of 10-13 year olds made me feel like a really uncomfortable, hopefully this will mean 18+ servers are actually 18+ servers.
to any child that might read this, we don't care what you think your mental maturity is, if you're not 18 and over, don't go to those servers
Gonna make an 18+ server where we talk about taxes, ailments, grandchildren and dentures....
@Mamiya645 that'd be golden
v67 already? i just got v66.
If Apple downgrades the visuals of the cheaper Vision, there wouldn't be much of a point to picking them over any number of cheaper but still expensive and premium alternatives on the market already (Apple fanatics notwithstanding of course). Really, if Apple would just...stop being so Apple, $2000 US should be very doable if they just got rid of the eyesight and used lighter, cheaper materials in the body and it would be more comfortable to wear, especially long term. No need for a separate compute unit, except of course, it all comes down to the Apple tax.
yeah i got v66 but not hiding apps and sleep mode in the power off menu
Dobry wieczór z Warszawy ❤
Heck yeah!! I already have v67 now! Thanks for the heads-up.
Oh. My v67 PTC version doesn't have the New Window Layout. 😢
@@chizukichan you have to restart it then it will show up in experimental features
You're talking about version 67, and I'm still waiting for version 66. It's ridiculous that they can keep coming out with. These new versions of new versions before the last new version is even fully rolled out to everybody
Agreed - it‘s insane. I‘m still on 65 myself 😩
It’s called betas
@@evilsohn turn on the public test channel in the phone app to instantly get 66
@@_Domthebombyou don't understand this comment
I was still in v64 until last night when I finally just manually updated with that tool they released
2:50 I have the same pod coffee machine!
I'm curious. I'm still happy with my Pico4 and Quest3. How much better could the Pico4s be? Do I need that? Time will tell.
Dobry wieczór :)
Has meta fixed the bug where apps can no longer access the android data directory? as that has broken a few projects i was working on but also beat saber modding (thats definitely not the main reason im raising this queston 😂)
In the V66 update, they claimed to have fixed the camera warping issue. However, after installing the update, I still experience the same warping problem.
The first headset to have eyesight tracking WHILE while being affordable is going to take off like crazy
The mystical
That cheaper vision pro sounds like they are copying the Chinese XREAL etc.
What watch are you rocking? I like the look of it.
not sure having 6 browsers in V67 is needed.... it's welcome... but I get by just fine with the 3 windows you get now ... wrapped around you.... is like having 3 large monitors.... maybe I will find a use for this new Vision like monitors everywhere thing....
3:16 Sorry, but using a smartwatch as a SlimeVR tracker is like using a spoon to dig a hole. You should've clarified that using anything but purpose-built trackers for SlimeVR is only a proof of concept. Most joycons, phones, smartwatches, etc. have a poor IMU that won't track well, and it reflects poorly on SlimeVR as a whole even though the fault lies with the trackers.
What a great content mate!!! Thank you so much for sharing all this information and for the time invested on your videos!!!
The warping fix was so shocking, cuz one day i boot up the quest like usual and the passthrough is instantly 10x better and somehow looks WAY less like a shitty android camera from 2009, just blew me away
The explanation of Apple Intelligence really does it an injustice. Processing for basic tasks is done on device, processing for more demanding tasks happens over encrypted communication with custom Apple servers.
The ChatGPT integration is not only optional and can be permanently turned off, but it’s really only for the random tasks Apple Intelligence isn’t trained on like recipe ideas and condensing web information to answer questions.
When the quest three was compared to the Apple Vision Pro when it first came out There was a huge gap in its Capabilities and features. But now I feel like the quest three could go toe to toe with the Apple Vision Pro with all its new updates. Even though the Apple Vision Pro has micro OLED Lenses and eye tracking.
Pico 4S is most certainly a pretty bad name. As for it coming sooner than we thought... I mean, Pico 5 was predicted to come in the last 25-30% or so of this year before it was canned. The 4S coming out around that same time frame makes sense to me. Though what does not make sense to me is calling it a Pico 4S since unlike the Quest 3S it's the more powerful model. And second, the specs will probably be close to the leaked specs we had of the base Pico 5.
10:39 as someone critical of Apple, it'd be imperative that the combined price of the iPhone and the Apple Vision Mini (name pending) needs to match the Apple Vision Pro - it's so that they can make money back on the device (an iPhone can cost as much as 500 USD in raw materials at least), but also so that there's room in the budget to make it as good as it can be within the price bracket. The Pro was a misstep and Apple needs to make the sequel succeed. If not for themselves, then for the whole of VR so it can truly get mass adoption.
LOL that V67 is already getting out. I couldn't get V65 until just this week, and it was on my headset for less than a day before V66 was available.
is the debris/water in the USB-C port warning still there in v67? i use v57 and suppress updates, with this usb warning the quest 3 is not usable in live competitions like online racing.
If VRC requires me to submit my ID. I’m quitting VRC the next day. VRC does not have the right to steal PII.
Going to fullscreen is pretty much broken in V67 new window mode. Controls are lost when switching to fullscreen, the only way to regain control is by closing the zombie window...
I'm on v67 and still no warping fix. The windows thing is freakin great tho. Still needs work but it's a game changer.
Pass through on vision pro already is lacking, if they decrease the quality even more it will be far below the quest 3.
With the new warp fix I actually prefer the Quest 3
Is it just me or does the passthrough quality when recorded looks ALOT better then when you actually put on the headset. I got a meta quest 3 & yea I can see my phone & watch better but I just wanted to see if its just a me problem or thats just how it gets recorded. Which would make me believe if it looks that good record and its the same camera im looking at then why does the quality not compare?
I don’t get it. Super difficult to get the new updates you need to use pc to update early
And still after the update you don’t get the futures
So why let me to update ?
I am complaining everywhere that I got v66 and passthrow is terrible and looks the same
Hey, what app did you use to be able to use WowMouse to control Spotify in your car??
So now to use Vrchat in the future you need to give them your license, yep vrchat gonna die. Yes I hate kids on it but I don't want a random company that can get hacked having my driver license
Hey, i just tried the app for the watch, you can now tap the middle of the screen on you watch to ''pause'' the tracking.
i wanna see someone with plenty of google watches and saying I AM THE WATCH-MAN
the hud was good before . this is good too but I really don't care about that I want more games that don't look worse than Counter Strike 1.6
Were you using my spotify playlist in your car? I have those same two songs on my spotify playlist!
i havent been able to use the multi-modal mode (using a controller and hand at the same time) for around a month now and some others are having a similar issue, has this been removed? or is just a problem for some users?
Hey Mysticle! There aren't any timestamps in this video, just to lyk :)
Dang I got V67 but no window update... warping is fixed though
Still waiting for Meta FBT to buy 😅 (26.June.2024)
Can we stick a browser window aka youtube or some thing like this into other apps? Like watching browser videos in pokerstars? And when the pointer points onto the browser it must take control of that window. I think its not a big deal for meta to implement the browser multitasked and controllabel in other apps
i would love to see what version im on my quest app because every time i watch your videos i want to check my version but im not near my headset
Darn! V67 rolled out to me without floating windows flag =(
Oh wait it appeared after reboot and its amazing! thx for news
Great video and happy for increase the Horizon os feature but ... I was thinking of buying the Quest3 personally I'm very hesitant in fact I still have a Quest2. With the Quest3, Meta opted for a change in thickness, switching to AR and specifically an MR viewer so VR is also present and still dominant fortunately, I would have preferred a VR viewer like SONY's PSVR2 with all those features. So it's worth waiting a little longer to see what the Quest4 will be like. But in light of a recent event my belief in standalone systems is wavering a bit. “Entitlement check failed, the game will quit” I'm afraid it will recur on all meta viewers although the software will be compatible with the successor, the old PERFECTLY WORKING model will not be able to run REGULARLY PAID SOFTWARE. I'm waiting to see what happens and in the meantime I hope for a stand alone Windows PCVR viewer where we all know how to resolve these unfortunate events.
Finally, USEFUL updates are incoming - spatial / window features really add more value to the Quest 😊👍
you know what i want the ability to as an ethernet cable to the quest rn it isnt compatible and when you plug an ethernet in it wont register it
oof apple has already said theyre not partnering with meta over their privacy concerns.
Yippee new video:D
Yippee!
so... siri transfering the question to another AI basically tells me that Siri is still useless XD
It isn’t true, idk why he didn’t do any research at all. Five minutes of google will tell you that most of the processing is on device or on Apple encrypted servers. It’s only certain things like recipe ideas that it will ask if you want to use ChatGPT.
You should have mentioned PSVR2 coming to the PCVR! Crazy News!!!
That was already confirmed a while ago. But it's not crazy news because it's just a trash PCVR headset with all of its gimped features. No HDR, no haptic feedback... basically no nothing other than it just another cabled PCVR headset.
@@thenonexistinghero ah okay thanks for the feedback :)
still waiting for meta to let us record spatial video on the quest three
I already have v67 why haven't you? are you on the PTS
To tylko ja czy on powiedział dzień dobry wszystkim
v67 is on Basti's Archive, for the 3 and Pro.
Did He just spoke polish at the start of the vid???
Now when you charge your meta quest it make a charging sound I was surprised 😮
still havent got all the improvements from v66, hope when i update it fixes it
why did you just squeeze in a polish good morning
oh so the warping was not fixed in v66, that explains a lot haha
You know Mysticle is doing ok when he has a video sitting in his Tesla. :D
still waiting for v66 update 😅
Timestamps
00:00 - Start
11:05 - Doo Doo
13:39 - End
FINALLY VRChat is doing SOMETHING!!!!! Still has a long way to go and a big choice to make. Market as nsfw or ban the nsfw. Right now they are keeping nsfw content while still advertising as a 13+ friendly game.
You shouldn’t be happy about this. This means they will ask for ID and you should refuse as giving your ID is a security risk.
Fuck VRCHAT
Hi i am a big fan
The "safety" stuff is why I left VRChat. But now we have Resonite! :-)
If you tell people to report each other for everything and accept constant surveilance, and you end up with only bad people left. That's what happened in the USSR and in Nazi Germany. It's just how we're wired.
Yep VRC is now the USSR. With bad greedy people taking advantage and reporting people to the authorities to help themslefs.
when they gonna bring modding back
Oooh!! Now I know what I'm using my old smartwatch for after I replace it's battery!
What is the name of the watch face on 3:12?
I’m really glad yt suggested this video. New sub!
I think tethering the non-Pro Vision to an expensive iPhone is the best thing they could do to bring down the cost. You shouldn't factor in the cost for the iPhone to get the full price of the package. The Vision Pro is ridiculously expensive but a non-Pro Vision over $1000 ist still pretty expensive. I would guess over 95% of the people buying any Vision, Pro or non-Pro, already own the most expensive iPhone anyway. And it's not like when you buy a Vision Pro, you sell your iPhone because you don't need it to use the Vision Pro. So both groups will own the most expensive iPhone.
Very bad audio and low volume
the most informative reviewer ever
I'm not believe that in one minute stay vrchat safe not I'm still having trouble in the battery drain sorry the mysicle not trust vrchat I hope you understand
VRCHAT is never safe even if they try to be politically correct by implementing these privacy violating features.
v67? I just got v66 yesterday!
"As usual you've got chapters..." -> No chapters 😂
No idea why TH-cam keeps doing this to me 😭
11:05 Mysticle said, "doo doo."
I got the update last night, the ui is so much better now
What was that first word?
Since the v66 i have some tracking issue, i hope it will be fixed in this one
There's a "Report" feature to let Meta know I think.
C'mon! I just got the v66!
Promising my ass. They just gave up augments
Delayed. There is a difference.
How are they getting it
Tethered sucks