Silverado Oil Catch Can - Did NOT Go According to Plan... 2020 Trail Boss Oil Separator
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- Installation and IMMEDIATE TEST of the JLT 3.0 Oil Separator [Oil Catch Can] for the 2019 - 2021 Silverado, Tahoe, Suburban 5.3 & 6.2. Cross-Country road trip in the 2020 Trail Boss (family car).
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Have the same one! You need a larger diameter hose than stock to reduce the drag on the pcv system by adding additional length.
I just installed the catch can on my 2019 z71 and no hissing. Thank you for your videos. You have given me a lot of ideas for my truck.
I installed the JTL 3.0 on my 2019 Chevy Silverado K1500 RST 5.3L, and I was able to get rid of the air noise by using Self Sealing grey foam tubing 1/2 C 3/8" the one they use for the home air conditioners. I wrapped it with High Temperature insulation tape, and I have no vacuum noise or hissing noise, just the engine.
I have the exact same catch can on my 5.0 F150. Works great. I empty it onces every 3 months or so. It usually had about 2 Oz of oil in it. Definitely recommend for those with eco boost or similar. With the added pressure from the turbo the blow by is worse.
You are so talented at making video's. Great channel. Just bought a trail boss and your video's help immensely. I went to Maui in 2004 alone and it was an amazing experience for me.
Weather variables can greatly change your MPG. Years ago when coming home from a trip we had a very strong tail wind. With five adults in my dad's Explorer we were getting about 27 MPG. About a third or the way home the wind turned into a even stronger head wind. For the rest of the way home we got less than 10 MPG.
I have one installed and it does NOT make that hissing noise. That noise isn’t supposed to be there. I think you need to force the female connector into the male connector. Don’t be gentle with it give it a good push. Mine didn’t seat correctly when I didn’t use a strong push. Then pull the hoses to make sure they’re not half-seated
Same here bro I got one too and it didn’t make any hissing sound.
2020 6.2, mine works great no hissing.
First 6000 miles the can was almost full. Had gunk in the bottom 1/8 of the tank that looked like white lithium grease.
Next 6000 miles it was only 1/3 full of gas and oil no gunk. I love it.
Hey does this void warranty on your truck ? I want to put one on my 5.3
Thank you for sharing your wisdom, brother.
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We will be making a trip to Disney from South TX in our 20 trailboss as well. Thank you for posting!!
Protip for those of you who live in a cold climate and install one of these. You'll want to empty them no longer than 1000 miles during the winter because you'll get condensation buildup like you wouldn't during the summer. I drained mine in warm months and only got normal oil out but back in february I drained mine and a lot of water came out with it.
Thanks haven’t thought of that at all
Thank you! Washington state does get cold!
Exactly the same experience i had. Winter seems to introduce more moisture into the pvc system.
Same here in Georgia. Our winter months aren't that cold and I still get milky oil out of my catch can after the Temps start to drop. Warm months I get regular looking oil.
Just check it every week. If you have a catch can, you're probably the type who checks shit all the time
I have the jlt on my 2016 Silverado and it doesn't make any hissing noises.the fittings were hard to push on mine.been almost 2 years since I installed mine.i drilled and tapped the bottom and ran a hose and a ball valve into the wheel well so I can drain it easy.i drain mine every week or 2
Cool video. Sorry for your troubles fellow Texan.
For your next mod, you might want to add a light under the hood.
It's one of those mods you forget until you need it, but when you need it, you thank yourself endlessly.
Also, speed has a huge effect on these trucks. On my 21 6.2, I lose (in round numbers) 1 mpg per 5 mph.
She peaks at 24 mpg at 50 mph.
By 85 mph (because, Texas is awesome!), she's down to 17 mpg.
Which was the BEST mpg for a truck like this not that long ago.
Yes, I could slow down and save money.
But, getting home from west Texas by 11:30pm instead of 1am, after working all day, is a worthwhile trade.
There has to be a place to get a roll of the thick hose, cut it to length and install the JLT end fittings. ( your up close video shot showed a barbed type fitting connected to the hose) that would take care of the hissing noise. Maybe check for a GM part number in the pcv system. Once again, a great video. Been wanting to install this for a while. You have become my crash test subject for mods. 👍
haha! I appreciate the recommendation!
Awesome video let's keep them Chevys rolling 🤙🏽🤙🏽
I got one for my ‘17 Silverado 5.3L. I had to add a little lubricant to the little seals inside the line fittings and the seal on the catch can
Rule number one, what can go wrong filming YT vids will go wrong. Good vid man, way to stick it through 👍🏼
Appreciate it!
Mines on my 2015 5.3 and it absolutely perfect!!!! , it collects oil and water vapor. I empty once a month and it's awesome....
I’m late to the party on this video (awesome channel btw) plenty of great idea have come to me from it for my 22’ RST. Tried clicking on the link in the description for the catch can site and it basically said I’m in danger. Anyway, great videos. Keep building!
That down pour wouldn't stop 😂 I've been looking at the same can, but that hissing would get to me too. Keep the content coming. 👌
Thanks 👍
I have the JLT catch can on my '20 LT. I change my oil every 3500. Once you dump out the bad oil, let it sit overnight in a clear container and see it separate. BTW-I don't hear the noise from inside the cab so no issue.
there are centrifugal ones built into the L5P and the LM2 (6.6 and 3.0 duramax respectively). They spin the oil out of the air, and return them to the crankcase .
I have a 2019 Silverado RST with the 5.3 V8, just got back from a trip from western NY to Springfield Mo. About 1050 miles each way. I drove about 10 mph over the limit the whole way, most of the way at 80 mph and averaged 21.5 per gallon.
Did you turn on the dfm/afm or off?
Your point is?
Totally agree that catch cans should be stock on direct injection only engines. Which cold air intake did you use? Looks nice. I didn't know those engines use 0W-20 oil, yikes.
I have a 2021 Sierra AT4 and I just noticed the hiss too! Pretty annoying, I'm going to try a high temp thread tape on the threads of the catch can to see if that helps
I have the same set up as you. JLT catch can, Muffle delete, and the CAI intake. The catch can on my 2021 sierra 5.3l does the same hissing sound and catches a ton of crap. I put the catch can on at 1200 miles and the dealership hasn't said anything about it. I now have about 5k miles on the truck. I noticed in the colder weather it will catch water from condensation(yellow goop). If you could give an update about what JLT says about the hissing, that would be awesome! Thank you for the great content!
Mpg issues might be that the circulating air travels a lil bit more? And the ecu need a lil bit of driving around to “calibrate”?
I have a 19 TB and installed the JLT in 21. My first thought was not getting the hose fully seated. Mine were both tight to seat (click on). I never did get the louder hiss. I empty my can every 2500 and average about 1/3-1/2 full
I have the same catch can on my 2020 trail boss and none of that noise. I will say that I have big hand and had a hell of a time getting that back hose clicked in good.
If I get one of these, I’ll cut off the connectors, add some foam insulation over the hoses and clamp em down. Hopefully that’ll help
I have a July catch can on my 18 and no issue. It did not have the fitting, it had steel hose clamps if I remember correctly. I have to dump it less in the summer... Pretty much all oil. Winter gives you the creamy latte
I have this on my 5.3 and don’t notice any noise Plus I get about 2 mpg more hwy. to be honest your first clip sounded like it was not clipped in fully.
I just installed mine yesterday and did notice a lil increase in vacuum noise(hissing) with the hood open, but not with the hood closed. I ordered some foam beer can insulators to quiet the catch can. Not that i need to but more of an experiment. 🤔 also added some oil to the inside of the hoses o-rings with a q-tip.
Awesome Idea 💡 👏 👌 I'm wanting to insulate a dorman catch can I just got and now I know what I'm using 😀 peace and much respect to you 👍 JASON
I put a catch can on my silverado and it's a no brainer if you plan on keeping your truck to install a can on it. You could remove the OE insulation and put it on the catch can hoses.
What is the inside and outside diameter of the OE hose? Would the OE insulation fit on a hose that is 13/16” outside diameter?
I have not installed the Mishimoto Catch Can that I bought yet. It can with a hose that is 1/2” inside diameter, and 13/16” outside diameter.
@@jimk8927 I cut off the plastic PCV factory line and then slid some good quality rubber hose to the catch can and put a hose clamp on it. I don't know if it was 1/2" ID hose for sure but I think it was. I can say it was not hard to do. There are quite a few videos on YT that show how to do it.
The best spot for the can is on the same side as the radiator overflow?
If so, I need to make a plate that connects to the bolts that are holding on the radiator overflow to the firewall as the parts that come with the catch can that I purchased does not have a mount that will work. Then once the plate is bolted I will be able to bolt the bracket that I have with my catch can to the fabricated plate.
Awesome video! Also, your mpg probably went down because of a vacuum leak and the engine not running at its peak performance due to that leak. Try putting Teflon tape around the threads on the can then screw it back in tightly. Also add some hose clamps at the fittings.
I’m thinking it was not quite tight at the connector during the original installation, but you got it on the reinstall. But I could be wrong.
Try the insulation cover for fuel and transmission hoses
I had same hissing when I used the fitting on it, I just cut the fitting off and used hose clamps onto the nipples of the PCV
Interesting... I'm going to try that. Thanks for the recommendation
Couldnt you either dip the can in high temp foam or even possibly rhino line (bed liner of choice) the can
spray some starting fluid, around all the fittings and listen for an engine speed increase?
Sounds like the fitting is leaking with the hose. One of those things. Mine did something similar
I have a couple of JLT (now J&L) catch cans, I empty them at each oil change. My 3.5 Ecoboost usually has about an ounce of oil in the can between changes, my Tahoe since it's not boosted isn't as bad. J&L actually has a video about the hissing noise that they now send a link to when you buy one for a GM vehicle. Obviously GM knew they had a serious noise issue to put that much insulation around the PCV hose, and that one is what, maybe a foot long? Now you've got 3+ feet of non-insulated hose.
The Ecoboost was one of the first DI engines to start having serious issues with oil residue from the PCV coking up the back of the intake valves. A Ford mechanic recommended the catch can when my truck was new in 2018.
Install mines this weekend on my 2019 GMC Sierra 1500
I am running a larger can. Which meant it had to be installed on the frame. It is 4" in diameter and 7" in high it has a low restriction baffle at the inlet port and a slightly pulled-apart SS pot scrubbing pad(making a looser weave to keep a more open flow of gasses etc..) at the exit port with 1" ID flex hoses to and from the can. Making much less flow restriction. It also has a 3/8" ball valve on the bottom of the can to allow easy draining. However, I don't believe this was any of your problems with that vacuum leak. I have just created a larger in-catchment area to give the gasses and gunk a larger😮 area to slow down and collect. This resembles an external catch-can system I found on a marine engine.
So is this really a necessary mod for my 2023 Silverado? I’ve read some issues on Silverado and this was one of the solutions.
You have to be careful. The noise could be caused by excessive pressure. The catch can may be increase the pressure in the PVC system. The PVC needs to evaluate air as fast as possible and with a catch can this can be more restrictive causing increased crank case pressure and this could explain the lower fuel economy. I installed one on my 4Runner and MPG dropped 2 mpg. Took it off and it’s back to normal. The manufacturers didn’t put one on because they don’t really need it unless you have direct injection.
I believe all LS motors made after 2006 are direct injection. I could be wrong.
Great video, thank you!!
That tunnel was in mobile! Destine is an awesome place to go with the family.
I have the same catch cam on my 2020 Trailboss. It does not hiss at all. I really think the fitting coming off the valve cover is bad.
Have you found the answer yet? I've been looking into the Colorado ZR2 Diesel or the Silverado like yours and it sucks to even have this kind of issue off these brand new vehicles.
did you remove the PCV valve and replace it with the catch-can; I don't know if it is wise to substitute the PCV valve for the catch-can, I installed a catch-can on my dodge ram van, but I left the PCV in place
What exhaust system do you have ? Sounds awesome
I have the same catch can on a 2021 6.2 , and I do not have any vacuum leak noise in my engine.. I think your first diagnoses was accurate, you have a broken seal in one of your hoses. I will say I have about 3,000 on my catch can, thus far no problem ..for my recommendation I would exchange yours with a new one.
Looking to install the catch can on my 21 Trail Boss. I have the extended warranty and will that effect the warranty?
Just bought a 2021 trail boss and already put 1200 miles on it
What is the inside and outside diameter of the hose that is used in your application? What is the stock hose inside and outside diameter of the hose?
I have purchased a Mishimoto Catch Can for my 2.7L Silverado. It has an inside diameter of 1/2” and an outside diameter of 13/16”. Is that thick enough to limit the sound that you were getting with your installation.
I was thinking of maybe getting insulation wrap that is used for hot water pipes to install over the hose to limit how much sound is heard from the air rushing through the tubing. Please reply with your opinion. Thanks.
I have a 2020 1500 custom does your oil filler neck move at all? Front to back? I have the elite engineering catch can and their bracket puts the can right in the way of the oil filler neck but the filler neck can move with a bit of effort.
I love the truck but what cold air system do you have
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I was a diesel mechanic up North for 35 years and I saw a few of them catch on fire because they would be clogged, I personally would clean them and replace the filter every time I did an oil change, it would take a few minutes to do the right thing.
I put mine on today and I have the hiss as well. Sounds like vacuum leak. I thinking it’s because the hoses are so long and air going through a hollow can. The stock line is short and sweet.
I just added this catch can to my 2022 6.2L Trail Boss LTD. Mine has the hissing to but you can only hear it with the hood popped. Not too bad. I just want to confirm that you have determined it is not a vacuum leak and lowered your mileage and that first drive was a fluke?
Would appreciate if you could do one video where you go over reliability of new Chevy 5.3 and 6.2 engines. I am interested in Chevy Tahoe but am hesitant to pull the trigger due to Lifter issues all over forums. Thanks.
Interesting. My 2005 Chevy trailblazer 5.3L EXT LT came with a cold air intake filter. Just hidden under a cover shroud. I typically take that shroud out during the summer. I do kind of like the direction change of your setup. Not gonna pay all that for what you have but I like fabricating so there is that..
I have a 2017 Silverado with the 5.3 and I have the add-w1 catch can with no hissing at all. I also get 15.5 city and have gotten up to 30 mpg on highway trips. 2 inch level on 34 inch tires. I just remembered to check it right now and it was almost completely full. Lol
Once again great video brotha👍🏻
I appreciate it! Thanks for watching
30 mpg highway w/ 2 inch lift and 34 inch tires.
I’d need a video to prove that. So would Chevy
Do I need to unplug my negative terminal on my battery before I install this?
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Had the same noise issue after installing my unit. Changed the upper pulley and main belt. Noise gone.
The hissing is the turbulence of air rushing through the hoses.
Did you make sure the O rings in the connectors were properly seated and aligned?
Run a slice line down the stock part insulation to be able to remove it to use it around the new catch can hoses then wrap the insulation tape around that I may be super quiet just a thought
Good thought!
I have a 2020 Trailboss 6.2 with the same catch can. Mine never has hissed. 12k miles.
UPR catch cans come with much better hoses as well as WOT hose. I have a 2015 Yukon 6.2 with no added noise. (Pro model with ceramic back flow valves $439).
I installed mine 3 days ago. I didn’t have the hissing sound. But I thought I still had a vac leak cuz of my mpg. So I 2ble checked everything the mpg started 16 when installed it. But lil by lil went back up to 19-20. Why I don’t know. But it’s back up to 19-20.
I do know that the duramax diesels come with a separator. It doesn't make since that the gas engines don't have anything. Also that hissing noise is definitely an air leak. I recommend getting a new connection. It is just placing a vacuum on the crankcase, it shouldn't be that much flow. The reason you saw a reduction in fuel mileage is because pcv goes in after the MAF sensor. So if you are sucking a lot of air it will throw off the actually air fuel ratio that the truck thinks it should be producing. Thanks for the content.
God bless you and your family bro
Just get a breather oil cap. Had the same issue when I owned a Sky Redline and installed a catch can with AN fittings and braided hose.
Just adding the breather doesn't do much. What that does is allow the valve cover to draw in fresh air. The pcv system has an intake and and exhaust. The catch can goes on the exhaust side of the pcv system where it filters out the oil so it can be burned in the combustion chamber. Just adding a filter doesn't eliminate the problem.
Is this after the afm deleted? Or dynamic fuel management whatever is in that year. Already got allot of miles on mine so just gonna keep running her I’m at 150k miles installed afm delete around 115k and change my fluids on time no consumption between oil changes even before the delete, the delete is a no brainer for all GM motors about to add one to my caddie also still under warranty but 50k miles now
I agree that any engine with direct injection, turbos, etc. should ideally come with a catch can from the factory. The problem is that many drivers don't know anything at all about vehicle maintenance. The average car owner would not understand the purpose of a catch can or know to empty it periodically, so the manufacturers don't bother to use them. Also, the overall economy of today is dependent on planned obsolescence. Car makers have a financial incentive to design cars so that they will be reliable only as long as the factory warranty is good for. After that, they hope that major failures happen so people will just buy another vehicle rather than spend thousands on repair bills.
Great Video 👍
Got myself a 2019 Trail Boss LT luv it now has about 11,500 in the almost 2yrs I've had him
Dang, I got mine on April 24th and I have 5870 miles on it before I leave for work this morning.
Any issues with the lifters?
@@Jsuazzo I haven't had any... Yet. Also just, scheduled my first service yesterday so we will see what the oil looks like. I'm adding a catch can.
Good to hear. I only have 110 miles and got concern after seen all the lifters failures
@@Jsuazzo nice, I took mine on a trip to Miami from basically Pittsburgh and back. Left town with 1700 miles and putt over 2800mi with the trip. Did average around 26mpg over a 400mi stretch on 95 south. When was your truck built? Were you lucky enough to not get all of the fuel management systems? I was happy.
I out this on my 21 5.3 trail boss and I have no hissing. I have had it on for about 12k miles for the last year and a half. I put it on at about 600 miles.
Land Rover had what looks like an occ on the 300 tdi, it went from the crankcase to the valve cover, not sure if it works like an occ because there is no way to empty the container.
I have the same JLT catch can on my 19 Silverado(new body), and have put around 4,500 miles on it without issues so far!
Same. I dont think ive heard any hissing from mine. will have to check now haha
Have they made the 2022 catch can yet for the 2.7 Turbo Chevy 1,500 custom Silverado
Do you know what gearing your truck has and what was the power loss like when you went to larger tires?
I see you drove through the mobile tunnel, I live in daphne which is the town just passed the bridge
Ford has a oil separator on newer ecoboosts before the pcv that returns some of that oil back to the pan.
With the new J&L catch cans they still hiss but you can only hear it if you put your ear up to the engine but in the cab you can’t hear it.
How's that Cold air intake?? Want to get it but still on the fence about it!
Just recently put one for my 2022 Chevy Silverado 5.3 rst and I got the same hissing sound. Is that sound normal ? Or is there something wrong with the tubing or catch can itself
i got a j&l osc and didnt get a hissing noise. Mine works great!
Come down to the ocala forest and go off road. Put the z71 to use like I do in my 08 Silverado. Big fan here in Eustis, FL
Maybe I missed it but did you update the mpg at the end? Was it the rain or is it still 16
I've got the JTL on my 2023 Nissan Frontier haven't notice in difference in fuel economy. Sure does catch a lot of oil, water and other muck more so in winter
Finally got my 2021 Trail Boss LT 6.2L yesterday! It moves SO easy! My first time merging onto the interstate I had to let off the gas pedal half way down the onramp. Seriously hit 80mph before the end of the on ramp without realizing it. That said though, with the BBQ grill sized muffler and the resonators out back it sounds like a minivan. Can't wait to get my Borla muffler put on.
I just cut out the stock muffler and flapper and put a Magnaflow straight pipe on. Strangely my truck only had the front flapper where the instructions say as well as all the videos I've watched show two, one in front and one after the muffler.
@@FastSS02 5.3s have 1. 6.2 have 2.
@@FastSS02 Interesting. And here every single video I've seen shows only 1 flapper before the muffler. My 2021 with 6.2L has one flapper.
I know the feeling. I did the same thing when I first started driving my 6.2L. I just did a muffler delete and left the resonators on.
That's also where mine is. Deleted the muffler, flapper and left the resonators. After driving across the country and back (with the family in the car) we all still love the sound!
How much oil is your truck consuming? My 19' doesn't use a drop over 5-6k miles. What you showed seems excessive.
IMO: manufacturer’s know most owners do not follow regular maintenance intervals. Most don’t even check their oil and rely on a lube shop or mechanic. They assume owners wouldn’t dump the catch cans. Rather than add money adding them and potentially have owners blame them for engine failure or issues in the vacuum, they accept the issues present in the current set ups.
My opinion but I turned wrenches on vehicles for the military for over 21 years. Wild how many people would hop in and fire up vehicles without checking anything, which their manuals said to do before they started their vehicle.
You make no sense. Why do you have likes? What is your "REGULAR" maintenance... Turned wrenches in the miltary.. Because I'm checkin oil and hydro on a tank/helo. Be realistic you super soldier.. People buy new vehicles to not have to mod them. Might sound crazy to a barrel licker,
@@twochuktommy8432 instead of name calling I’ll highlight the ignorance in your comment. “Regular maintenance” are things as common as checking the air in your tires prior to using the vehicle, oil changes, and even following the manufacturers recommended service intervals. Which are listed in your owners manual in case you haven’t seen them.
Miriam-Webster dictionary defines modify as to make a change. So anything that is changed from the manufacturers original configuration is a modification. Window tint, decals, even the little phone charger you plug in to charge your phone is a mod.
Thank you for attempting to troll a simple comment over 9 months from the time I posted it though. Have a nice day and be safe in your vehicle.
@@PsykoticUSMC Great reply and thank you for your service, from a fellow vet!!
I put a catch on and had no hissing noises. Are you maybe missing an oring on one of the ends?
Could also try a bigger hose with an ID that equals the OD of the “new” PCV hose.