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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey again. This is a video a lot of you were asking for, so I delivered! The only CFMOTO left in the line up I haven't covered is the CL-X 700 Heritage. With it being so closely related to the 700 Sport, I may put that video on the back burner and not worry about it too much.
I will be doing more videos from various manufacturers, and I think Indian Motorcycle is going to be one that does really well for the channel, and I'm lucky enough to work at a dealership with a great selection of used motorcycles to choose from.
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See you in the next one. :) - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
So glad your channel is growing! Such quality reviews! Took my MSF class last week and ready to get a bike, so I’ve been binge watching your videos lol
Thanks! Welcome to the fun side 😁
I love my 650MT fun taking her off road. Getting 65mpg on this. Just put a new exhaust on her.
Just got mine and so far so good!
It was nice to watch I bought it yesterday and l'm looking forward to it loves from Turkey👋
Interesting review. I'm in the 60 horses/40nm buying category and this fits the bill so thank you.
Excellent candidate for you. Glad it helped. Ride safe!
I have this bike in white. It's awesome. Buy one! DO NOT have the dealer do most of the maintenance at $187/hour - do it yourself. They stiffed me over $500 for the first service - 2 hours to "check all the bolts are tight" and that kind of crapola
What a rip off. Thanks for the information. I'll check the service cost if I buy one first.
Awesome motorcycle! CFMoto is doing great job, every year better and better 👍
This bike is no longer in the line up. There are some others rumors floating around about a 450 adventure bike using the same engine as the 450SS/NK.
Ran into you at QT this morning and have been watching your videos the past couple hours, loving what I'm seeing especially since I'm kind of on the edge of wheather or not I want to buy a bike or not, keep up the good work man!
Hey, I remember you! Glad you are enjoying the channel. Welcome to the show. If you ever have questions, you can stop by our store and come see me in person. 🤘😎🤘
@@Omni_Moto For sure man, I definitely will, if I decide I have questions or whatever
I just bought one, I Love it
Great review. So I subscribed. I just worry about long term build on these seemingly good motorcycles.
Thank you for watching and subscribing!
There is a dealership near me that had a few new ones on sale for $3500 new and there was a $1250 rebate I’m really regretting not picking it up
I didn't get that big of a deal but got mine for 4000 roughly 5000 after dealer fees and tag and registration, it was a 22 model they had been sitting on for 2 years so I guess it was worth the loss to have the show room space back I guess
Dude they are selling a 2023 version of this bike for $5799 near me. Super tempting, I would love something more comfy for longer rides.
That's a pretty solid deal! If they'll let you test ride it, I'd say try it out and see if you can live with it on those long rides. Best of luck, ride safe.
I recognize the location, Columbia Mo, nice! Go Mizzou!!
Thanks for a great review. Is the engine shared by any other brand like the 800 MT is a KTM? All the best.
Hey, thanks for your question! I believe the CF 650 is only ran on their motorcycles at this time. I’ve heard through the rumor mill it is actually based largely on an earlier generation Kawasaki 650 engine, but I can’t confirm that. As far as I know, this motor is specific to only CFMOTO motorcycles right now.
Hi, very good review of this CFMoto, as a 50 years old total beginner looking forward for a good first bike, and this Adventura 650 can be the one!!! Still thinking between the CB500x from Honda or the Motomorini X-Cape....but the price and options of this MT650 is a good deal i suppose. Regards from Serbia
Thanks for the kind words! Ride safe. 😎
I šta si uzeo?
@@pericanikolic6665 Cao, odlucio za cb500x ✌️. CF moto je dobar ali mu nosivost mala za duo i stvari, w motomorini sam probao u Bg i meni je tezak motor kao pocetnika tako da hondica najbolji izbor, jedino sto se dugo ceka na njega jbg....
@@svaralen ja sam u zescoj dilemi. Sa drugarom sam krenuo u razmatranje, jer smo sličnih interesovanja. Krenuli smo od Forze, Xmaxa i adv Honde, znaci range 300-350 ccm. Meni to odgovara zbog Beograda, al bi mi i ture sa njima pravili. A onda se zabrinem zbog snage, ne zbog brzine, već u smislu potezanja, uzbrdice…. Iako opet kažem, brzine nas ne zanimaju. 80-100 sasvim dovoljno. Onda pogledam nešto jače, Honda Nc 750 i CF Moto i ništa odlucio nisam. U stvari znam da NC neću, jer mi je mnogo para, a sve drugo ne znam. Inače isto početnik u 43 godini :)
@@pericanikolic6665 u toj klasi imas brdo motora za manje para i novo kao Zontes gk350, Voge 500ac a sada izasao Voge 350ac, pa izlazi u decembru Triumph 400, pa uskoro i RE Himalyan 450, ostali su slabi motori. Najbolji po meni je Kawasaki Z400, sve su to roadsteri, pa novi cruiser kawasaki Eliminator od 400cc. Znam kako ti je, i ja imao muku, zamalo zbog prodavaca u hondu koji su bahati seljaci da kupim Suzuki SV650 koji je odlican kompromis para, snage, kvaliteta, dugotrajnosti i koji je ok i za pocetnike!! Ako si vise za Trail onda cb500x, imas i Voge 650, cujem da je i KTM 390 Adventure isto dobar motor...znaci ima ih mnogo. Ja sam isao srcem na kraju i naravno kolko sam mogao da se ispruzim. Idi pogledaj, probaj gde daju, zaljubices se u jedan sigurno. Ja prodao moj maxi scooter jer mi bilo dosta njih a i mnogo su skupii, a oduvek zeleo motor. Ako se ne zuris, polako i navi ces svoj motor!!! 👍✌️
Great funny review always MI! I’m surprised you don’t get the hand guards as standard fitment in the US. You can fit Aussie made Barkbusters though. The MT is an older design of the Kawka though so hence the similarities. The 800MT on the other hand uses a KTM sourced 790 because of their collaboration. You will enjoy that hooligan 😉 Cheers, keep up the great videos & appreciate your time & energy making them👌
Hand guards would be a nice touch, but for the cost to add them aftermarket I don't think its too tough of a pill to swallow. It's interesting the CF motor is based on an older gen 650 from Kawa, but that would make sense. No reason for Kawa not to sell the patent for it since they have an update version. I'm stoked for the arrival of the 800 Adventura. Bike looks stellar and the specs appear to be very attractive. Thanks for the great comment, Steve! See you in the next one. 😎
@@Omni_Moto thanks buddy. Just for your information, the 800MT doesn’t have traction control though which on dirt is a mistake as it spins up a lot on the dirt sections let alone wet road riding ❌
Im looking at 2023 here in Florida for 4500 new clearing out the 23 model im really thinking about it.
I’m surprised that this bike doesn’t come with cruise control like the 700 cf motos. Can’t wait to see what the 800 has in store though. I might hold off until then.
Since it’s based largely on the 650NK, I’m not surprised it doesn’t have cruise control. I do wish it had it though, and I’d be fine with MSRP jumping a few hundred dollars to get that feature.
@@Omni_Moto Especially on a adventure bike. Hopefully the 800 will have it.
@@ace_king9360 Fingers crossed. 🤞
Excellent review!
Got a line on one for $6300 out the door. Debating between this and Honda CB500X. Not exactly apples to apples. Worried the cb won't have enough punch for highway driving.
I am 5'10" 175 lbs, 68 yrs.
Back to riding after a long break. Got a new 21 Honda cb300r. Have also been riding friend's 2015 Suzuki vstrom 650 with no trouble but it's a bit top heavy.
Any advice you can give me?
Thanks and keep doing a good job.
Reuben
Hi Reuben, $6,300 out-the-door is a great deal - if you like the bike and are happy with your deal, I'd say try it out! To answer some other points you mentioned, I think the CB500X can handle highway driving, but as you mentioned, it won't be super punchy on the top end - that said, most of the time you'll be between 65-85MPH on US Interstates, and it can handle that happily. The 650 Adventura isn't exactly snapping any necks either, but it does move out nicely when you tell it to and will be noticeably more powerful than the CB500X. The VStrom is a legendary ADV bike even though it is a little top-heavy. One other machine you might consider would the NC700X from Honda. It almost bridges the gap between the Adventura 650 and the CB 500X, giving you ample power while still offering a versatile "do-anything" type of machine. A very well-thought-out machine with a low center of gravity and plenty of power to keep up with the likes of the 650 Adventura or the V Strom 650.
Hope this helps. Happy hunting and ride safe!
Can you get parts diagrams on-line for free? To identify part numbers? Even if you get the part numbers, can you have multiple options to order the parts from? Given its limited market share, it's not a good buy.
I'm (hopefully) about to buy one new for $4K, I just can't pass that up
What a smoking deal! Hop on it. Thanks for watching and ride safe. 😎
If you are looking for another bike to review, I would love to see what you think about the Ninja 650. It’s on my short list for my next bike.
Hey Matt, thanks! That bike is in the plans for a future video, but it’s a ways out. The next time we get a used one we get on trade will likely be when I am able to get a video for one out. Thanks for your comment!
how about the suzuki vstrom 650? it beat out the 650 versys in most independent reviews. but the price is up there too.....
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@@Omni_Moto greeting from Bosnia
I'm looking forward to the 800 coming. I need more content that is off road, not just saying that it can ride off road. Can you help me out? I have dr650 that doesn't have what I need. Off road it's OK, but lacks when I have to get it on the hwy.
Here is the one true solution th-cam.com/video/KH6Jfi5Jtjg/w-d-xo.html
Africa Twin is an incredible solution, but even a used one is pretty pricey. Top notch ADV highway-worthy motorcycle though.
With the success of the Yamaha Tenere 700 in its middle-weight class, the CF 800 is going to be an interesting competitor.
It’s scheduled to arrive sometime in 2023 (could be sooner, idk). I plan to do a full review on it when the dealership gets one, so make sure to subscribe to see that when it hits. :)
I was looking at this bike (probably the same bike if this is the demo) the other day when I was at the store, do you have any of the white ones?
We sold the last white one as far as I know. We just got the 800 Ibex dropped off last week. We still need to prep/assemble one, but they are there if you’re interested in other options.
Found it. 😁
Make a review about the new CFMOTO 700MT
USA is not getting that model so I won't be able to do that. It's a nice thought though! Thanks for watching.
These are getting blown out right now. A dealer a couple hours away has them for $3999, not sure if that's OTD, the 650NK is $4020 OTD.
That's a heck of a deal for this machine! At that price, I'd say it's a great buy.
This a good review of the adventure 650, funny that it was a whole second quicker to 60 than the nk in your other video! Did it feel like it had more power than the nk? I've got a Aussie spec 2017 nk with the 70hp engine spec and it feels pretty alive past 5000rpm
Hey Mid! Admittedly, I’m not a professional rider so my 0-60 times will be pretty inconsistent. Honestly, I think when I did the 650NK I was shifting too early and that severely impacted my time vs on the Adventura, I held my RPMs out for longer. If anything, the NK (in theory) should be fast with the same engine and being more lightweight. However, the Adventura could be geared different for better torque and acceleration.
I’m not too positive on those items, but great question!
@@Omni_Moto yeah true it's impossible to get the best time out of one run. It's exciting cfmoto road motorcycle has landed in the US, we've been enjoying the bang for buck over here for about 9-10 years now. Great if your on a budget 👍
This or just put bags and taller windscreen on a CL-X 700 Heritage? Or a few year old Versys 650 with low miles?
Price wise, I'd go for a new 650MT than a used Versys 650, just for ease of mind. You never know what a used bike has been through. What's new is new and it has warranty. I've been using mine for a while now and it runs great. I would like to try an MT800 in the near future too since it has a lot of cool features. 👍🏻
I own a CF moto Mt 650. A big problem I've had isthe heat. Once the radiator fan hits the heat gets
deflected to my leg but that is also
directly hits your crotch.. (If any of you can give a solution for this it would be great)
Another few issue I've found is the quality is a bit bad. I had my rear wheel rubber damper broken within 300kms and mangeto gasket leak at 700kms. Rust formation at 800kms.
Hey sane, the only suggestion/solution I can make is to possibly see if you can get an ECU flash or a piggy-back tuner that will optimize fueling for a more efficient engine, thus resulting in cooler running temperatures. Sorry to hear you are not having a great time with it. My next best solution is to trade it in on a different machine. Aside from that, I can't really think of any other way to negate it - at the end of the day, you're straddling an internal combustion engine that relies on heat and explosions to propel itself.
@@Omni_Moto thank you for the reply.
Does changing to an after market exhaust help?
@@charan11010 It could help, as it would flow more air than the factory exhaust, but you'll want to be careful with that because you can create a lean condition if it flows too freely, which will just make things hotter. I'd say look for a fuel-controller/ECU flash that can be paired with an exhaust if you go that route to get the best results.
Thanks for that information. Hi from Brisbane Australia
@omnimoto we chatted yesterday this is the other cfmoto i was looking at because of its utility, would this in your opinion be an ok beginner bike for a larger rider aka chunky man lol
This is an awesome beginner bike. The bags come off as well if you ever want to strip it down and lose some weight. Go sit on one! I think you’ll be surprised with how good it feels.
@@Omni_Moto will do thanks for the quick response I really appreciate it
Adventura go brr
What this has going vs the Versys is looks. Kawasaki tried to translate its design language from the Ninja 650 to the Versys and it just... didn't work. Then again I am currently drooling over the BMW F900XR and want one for my next bike so maybe I'm not the best judge of looks 😅
Thanks for the comment! I agree with you on the Versys styling. Feels like they tried too hard to make it sporty and didn’t embrace its inner ADV.
If I was buying a middle weight ADV though, it wouldn’t be either of those, it would be the Tenere 700 all day, or no way! 😆
Safe travels my friend. 😎👍
The Versys LT comes with a 2-year warranty.
Interesting, I thought it was only 1. I still don’t know if that would be enough to convince a lot people, especially since you then have to move up another $1,000 just for the LT when the CF already has the bags AND the warranty.
Thanks for the info though! Ride safe.
@@Omni_Moto The LT models of most Kawasakis have the 2 year while the base models have 1. Good review.
@@keithert Thanks for the knowledge! Always a good day when you learn something. Ride safe!
650GT should be a better comparison to the VERSYS 650. Great review nonetheless👍
Thanks for the comment, but your statement is debatable. The best comparison for the 650 GT I feel would be the Ninja 650 since they are both in the sport bike category. Versys 650 and 650 Adventura (MT in the rest of the world) are both light-duty ADV bikes.
Ok I Need A SnowBeast Bike Because I Cant Get A Car Rn And Its Gonna Be Cold Af Soon. I've Been Thinking 390Adv KTM. Or CFMoto Adventura 650. Both Hitton for 6,799 USD. What Yall Think?
Get the 650 Adventura, slap some dual sport tires on it, and it might do what you want. More performance from the CF and same starting price as well.
However, the 390 Adventure from KTM looks very promising on paper, and seems to be an incredibly capable (and lightweight) off road machine with all-terrain being part of its design.
It’s a tough one, but based on your use (Snow) the KTM might be the better option, even if it is “less bike” in terms of size/displacement.
Big things can come in small packages!
Hope this helps. Thanks for the comment.
on cycletrader, they have these starting at $5499
That is MSRP. You might find a dealer willing to sell one at that, but they are all different. Out-the-door pricing is usually where you get the fees added on for your final price.
@@Omni_Moto yes, but the versys 650lt is showing at $10099 and im sure that has fees as well. seems like a really good deal on the adventura.
@@rozzbourn3653 Exactly what I tried to hit on with this video. 👍 Hard to not look at the Adventura with all of the great standard features. Thanks for watching! Ride safe. 😎
What makes up $2000 difference between sticker and out of door
Manufacturers freight and surcharge for this style bike are around $700-800 alone. Dealership prep charges/admin fees/added mark up may vary, and there are various other fees. Keep in mind, no one dealership is the same and it is a free market where you can negotiate and make offers of your own. Some dealerships may even sell at MSRP!
Yep. That's what I have been seeing.
Are you in eco mode or sport mode
This model only has sport/eco display modes. This does not actually change the throttle response of the machine - only alters the appearance of the display. Primarily because of the cable driven throttle as opposed to a ride-by-wire system.
How is it for riding 2up?
This bike can handle 2-up riding! Your passenger will need to be mindful of the bags though - they are rather large. If you're doing a short trip though, they are removable so your passenger can have a little more room.
To answer your question shortly, this motorcycle can handle 2-up riding fairly well.
Dang $2300 in freight and prep, does that include taxes and reg fees?
Prices have come down since this video was made. To answer your question though, no, that price does not include taxes and registration fees.
I'd like to add that I do NOT make the prices that I mention in my videos, as I do not own the store who sells the products. Thanks for watching!
Yes.
Should I grab a 22 for 4900 out the door?
yes 👏
you tlk like an auctioner man hahahaha
It’s my inner salesman speaking
Heavy for an adventure bike? More street u ask me
Agreed
Driving without protective gear 😭😭
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I own this thing and its a Overheating crotch burning piece of flaming chinese garbage
Hey, None. Thanks for the comment!
If your bike is overheating, take it to your local dealership. They should be able to file a warranty claim and fix any parts that aren’t performing up to factory specifications. Sorry to hear you’re not having an ideal ownership experience, but CF is pretty good about warranty claims AFAIK.
Although they are a Chinese company, I think they do a pretty good job of breaking the stigma of “China bad”. After all, KTM has them as a business partner.
The 650 from CF is derived from a proven design - the 1st gen Kawasaki 650 P-Twin. There will always be a couple, among the thousands that are sold every year, that have their problems - no manufacturer is 100% perfect.
TL;DR: Give CF a chance to make it right. If they can’t fix it, you may have set too high of expectations for a machine which forces the user to straddle an internal-combustion engine, while maintaining “cool” temperatures.
Hope this helps. Ride safe. 👍
@@Omni_Moto The local dealer is not my fav place any more.
They crushed the oil filter on the first service. I asked if they would buy it back from me. It was a big no.. Yeah.. Dealer that doesn't want the product they sell back. You know the product sucks.
Warranty from CFMoto is a Joke. It sat at the dealership for 2.5 months for a 20 dollar part.
Its not overheating its cooking my crotch. Piss poor design of venting.
I honestly hate this bike the only pro of this bike is that it has 2 wheels. The rest is a con. Poor design, poor support, mediocre at best everything else. I have had quite a few hours in the seat on this thing and frankly there is nothing good about it, not even the price. 2k More and I could have just got another vstrom.
Chinese clone junk of the versys. I absolutely hate this thing and pisses me off that its in my garage.
@@Happypillz Sorry to hear that. Good thing you aren’t married to it - sell it and move on. Ride safe!
I own this as well and you’re correct about heat. It’s the one thing that engineers failed on.
@@Happypillz😅
I have the filling that the specs are the same with Versys 650. At Asia they sell it as 70hp. I have the euro 5 montel 2021 and is easy to see 185+ km / hr and the top speed i have see is 204 km /hr. Same with Versys 650 that they claim it has more power. Any way cf moto it comes to stay global with Value for Money bikes. If it proves that it is reliable enough, it will go well.