I think with Marlins Park, they got rid of all its character. The sculpture, the fish tank, they even got rid of the lime green walls, and made them Yankee navy. It looks depressing now.
Camden Yards was stupid. Why develop pitchers to the detriment of your hitters? Marlins Park taking out the tanks, statue and pool was just criminal!!!! Jeter ruined it!!!
Tell me you don't know how solar panels work without telling me you don't know how solar panels work. I live in Rochester, NY. I got solar panels on my house. They work just fine up here, even in winter. If they can work here, they'll work in Cleveland.
Went to fedex field for WVU VT several years ago, those boxes covering up seats are literally chain link fences with a tarp over them, it’s absolutely absurd
About the hill: Absolutely terrible when that was in play and with a flag pole. What baseball park anywhere in the world has a hill in it? Glad it’s gone.
Tal’s Hill was “inspired” by the Cincinnati Reds Crosley Field “terrace” which was an upslope in left field. The Crosley Field terrace was much wider, but not very steep. Crosley was built in the early 1900’s when baseball parks were constrained by the existing streets and land. Sports weren’t a multi-billion dollar business back then, so they didn’t tear up the neighborhood just to build a ballpark. Crosley Field was replaced by Riverfront Stadium in 1970. Also, numerous old MLB parks had the flagpoles on the playing field. Tiger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, Forbes Field in Pittsburgh, and others. Many of the old MLB parks had gigantic center fields. Tiger Stadium was 440 ft. The original Yankee Stadium field (pre-1975 renovation) was about 430. Forbes Field was over 430 as I recall. Again, all these parks weee built within the confines of existing streets. In Chicago, where it’s flat and the streets were in perfectly square blocks, Wrigley Field and Comiskey Park had symmetrical fields. Fenway Park, Yankee Stadium, Forbes Field, Crosley Field, etc, had oddball dimensions because the streets weren’t perpendicular to each other. While I liked the idea of Tal’s Hill as an homage to old time baseball, it was way too steep and contrived for modern baseball, so I agree with your take. I think Minute Maid Park is better without it.
Soldier Field should be in this list, or at least have it under honorable mentions. That stadium lost its landmark status when a spaceship landed on it. Because that describes what the stadium looks like.
It looks like a giant slug. I hate it when people refer to that as a "renovation". It wasn't. They tore down everything but the columns and built a completely different stadium in the empty space. A "renovation" would have rebuilt the stands exactly the way they were, like Wrigley Field.
Oh yeah. That was pretty horrible. I get they were trying to bring back the Raiders (how did that go for them?) but was it really necessary to build so ugly? Now the A's are marking time in a horrible facility with seats they have no use for and which block the view of the Oakland hills that made it bearable back in the Billy Ball era
Tal's Hill was a safety hazard plain and simple, its a literal hill that you have to adjust to while fielding a ball and a pole in the middle. better to be safe than sorry and I really don't get the whole soft thing with you, I used to play in a field with a hill down left field and the poles were inside of the field and almost every week someone would run into the poles and would always have to leave the game and players would often trip on the hill and twist their ankles. hills on what should be a flat playing surface is not a feature my guy.
Since I live in the Bay Area, Oracle park in the past 23 years along with China Basin and Mission Bay area made a lot of changes. The center field batter's eye area used to be just a grassy area until the 2010s. The issue I don't like is you have to have a season club membership to view the bullpen area. The Giants ownership also put a live arcade area to enhance the fan experience only available to the members. They also put more restrictions on people trying to sit at empty seats in the left field bleachers because a view reserved ticket cost cheaper than the left field bleachers.
I think the moving of the LF wall at Camden Yards is a good thing. Maybe they should have moved it back less, but the new dimensions are definitely better than the other old ones imo. What they did to Oracle Park is horrible imo. Removing Tal's Hill is bad, but no worse than moving the walls in at Comerica Park.
Small example that bums me out is Indiana Farmers Coliseum. The old barn used to have so much history displayed around the seating bowl. Now it’s all ads and historical references are confined to the lobby. How the hell did they not bring the Wayne Gretzky banner back? Hasek played in Indy as well, he surely deserves a reference
Tal's Hill was awesome. Not having a flagpole in play makes sense. But the hill was sick. As for San Francisco, the Garden is silly, but they do grow some stuff that's used for stadium concessions, and the bar out there is popular. I hate not having bullpens in play, though. I like being able to see who's warming up.
We can thank Mac Williamson for eating it on the old bullpen then suing the Giants for negligence resulting in the pen going to the outfield. Agreed, the garden and bar out there is a good spot. Aside from sustainability they do a lot with local youth programs.
SOFI has the drinking rails all around several levels. PERCO Park had moved their fences in years ago. I think the dimensions were actually messing with Padres players heads.
@@fantasticvoyage262 Lots of things were changed in the 1973-74 Yankee Stadium renovation. Field dimensions, upper deck layout, removal of support posts, removal of the iconic copper frieze at the top of the stadium. Too much to describe here, so look it up - there are a lot of websites which show this.
I've noticed the Dolans tend to change the layout and capacity of progressive field based on how the team is doing(the biggest predictor of attendance). I'm not surprised they're putting a bar in the upper deck of the stadium next year seeing as the team is on its way up and has the majority of its core locked down long term.
Renovations that made stadiums worse: every renovation for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Massively overpiced, kicked the average fan out for a bunch of hipsters.
“Stadiums That Look Nothing Like The Renderings” “Stadium Renovations That Look Nothing Like The Renderings” There’s two video ideas up your alley that I’d watch
Camden Yards did the retro style parks right and even though it's the era that we're going to see more contemporary parks, seating capacities at 30,000-35,000 is going to be the norm. Oracle Park in San Francisco really enhanced the standing room experience in the 2000s, with even the non baseball parks, open concourses to see the action everywhere in the park is the new norm.
IMHO, Camden Yards should have instead removed seating in LF altogether and built a social spot with "on-the-field" views protected by a wired fencing. Literally have a Green Monster raised to the middle deck premium seats
Regarding Oriole Park, do you not understand how slopes work? If you cut back into the LF stands, the remaining rows will be higher up (and therefore the outfield wall higher) because the rows that had sloped down towards the field just got cut out.
I thought the same thing.... were they supposed to have a wall that was 5-7 feet below where the stands are and the fans not be able to get right up to the wall? The jays learned that you have to have the fans right up to the wall. The moat thing was stupid.
Oracle Park Triples alley is still there. The Garden was their 4 years before the bullpens were installed in CF. The removal of seats was only 300 CF bleacher seats. Every cheap seat in baseball is being reduced or removed with higher priced options added.
Oriole park I understand why they also raised it, of course because it was easier to do that than to rework seating too, but they should have realized that raising it would have that effect and only have moved it about 2/3 or half the distance back to truly count for both
This guy is the absolute worst! Solar panels won't work in Ohio? I have 19 on my house in CT and I've generated way more than I've used in the 4 years since.
In Baltimore, it's so much better for the Orioles. I both agree and disagree with Ginger. It's crazy difficult now to homer left field. The problem was that pitchers in the past would shy away from coming to Baltimore. Now that the Orioles are winning left field is the way of the land 🫡
Painting the fences of the Marlins Park from lime green to dark blue was dissapointing. Basically, every renovations they're making "for the fan experience" are for the people who are not interested in watch the game because don't like it.
Comerica Park (Detroit) renovation is a joke. The organization moved the center and right center field in by 10 feet and removed the out of town scoreboard from the right center field wall to replace it with a 7 foot tall padding, its an ugly high school friendly hitters park now.
Why are you talking about solar panels not knowing how they work? Solar panels get enough sun even with clouds to provide energy. And I hate the solar movement
Тal's Hill would still be there, if Houston hadn't have moved to the AL. But nobody whines and snivels quite like AL fans and media, so it was taken out.
I was good with OPACY moving the fence back but agreed it stinks they raised the fence. One of the best parts of the early days of Camden Yards was watching Mike Devereaux and Brady Anderson rob would-be HRs. Devo had one of the best vertical leaps in MLB history but even he would have trouble robbing a HR from the LF way at Camden Yards these days.
The whole marlins Stadium rant had me laughing “The aquarium was futuristic” XD Also, “taking away the fun-ness of the stadium” Doesn’t having a wall further back make the park standout?
like the old colors at marlins park , aquarium remove was not the only sin .also count the clevelander pool and dont agree 100% with fence move in. i read marlins attendance down cause of the moves. i bet you can find image where you see miami sky line better with sculpture when comparing . plus i like the old grass look also
Heads up, influx means things coming in, not changing. Simply "flux" would be better where you used it because flux is the process of movement in both directions.
The left field wall moving back eliminated my season ticket spot and perhaps the rowdiest fan section. I get it like it needed to be moved but by 30 feet? I’m pretty much used to the aesthetic of it now but I sure do miss my seats.
I’m so clueless. I attend a few Giants games each season and I had no idea this renovation happened, nor have I batted an eye to the now seemingly obvious changes.😅
I wish the Washington NFL Franchise would be bought by somebody else, and in turn, that new owner change the name of the Washington franchise back to REDSKINS
I open TH-cam each day and check out the recommendations for the day. I see all these video about stadiums listed. I'm wondering.....who gives a rats ass about stadiums?
I do for football and baseball stadiums. Especially baseball cause a good stadium will draw in crowds. I live in Colorado Rockies are usually a bad team Coors Field does well in attendance.
I think with Marlins Park, they got rid of all its character. The sculpture, the fish tank, they even got rid of the lime green walls, and made them Yankee navy. It looks depressing now.
Camden Yards was stupid. Why develop pitchers to the detriment of your hitters? Marlins Park taking out the tanks, statue and pool was just criminal!!!! Jeter ruined it!!!
100% correct on both. I wish the Astros would have left the hill in CF.
what did jeter do? sorry i’m new
The majority of these stadiums are just a waste of public monies for rich families.
It’s amazing that we live in a time where humans can make things like this in the world
Tell me you don't know how solar panels work without telling me you don't know how solar panels work.
I live in Rochester, NY. I got solar panels on my house. They work just fine up here, even in winter. If they can work here, they'll work in Cleveland.
That’s what I was gonna say. Dude acts like it’s pitch black outside on cloudy days lol
Went to fedex field for WVU VT several years ago, those boxes covering up seats are literally chain link fences with a tarp over them, it’s absolutely absurd
The ballpark in Denver is COORS Field not CORES Field
But also hilarious
About the hill: Absolutely terrible when that was in play and with a flag pole. What baseball park anywhere in the world has a hill in it? Glad it’s gone.
Tal’s Hill was “inspired” by the Cincinnati Reds Crosley Field “terrace” which was an upslope in left field. The Crosley Field terrace was much wider, but not very steep. Crosley was built in the early 1900’s when baseball parks were constrained by the existing streets and land. Sports weren’t a multi-billion dollar business back then, so they didn’t tear up the neighborhood just to build a ballpark. Crosley Field was replaced by Riverfront Stadium in 1970.
Also, numerous old MLB parks had the flagpoles on the playing field. Tiger Stadium, Yankee Stadium, Forbes Field in Pittsburgh, and others. Many of the old MLB parks had gigantic center fields. Tiger Stadium was 440 ft. The original Yankee Stadium field (pre-1975 renovation) was about 430. Forbes Field was over 430 as I recall. Again, all these parks weee built within the confines of existing streets. In Chicago, where it’s flat and the streets were in perfectly square blocks, Wrigley Field and Comiskey Park had symmetrical fields. Fenway Park, Yankee Stadium, Forbes Field, Crosley Field, etc, had oddball dimensions because the streets weren’t perpendicular to each other.
While I liked the idea of Tal’s Hill as an homage to old time baseball, it was way too steep and contrived for modern baseball, so I agree with your take. I think Minute Maid Park is better without it.
What's the reason for blasting on solar panels? Lots of stadiums should have solar panels on their roof.
The sun only shines in the desert obviously. Haven't you heard Ohio hasn't seen the sun of 47 years
Soldier Field should be in this list, or at least have it under honorable mentions. That stadium lost its landmark status when a spaceship landed on it. Because that describes what the stadium looks like.
Is it sad that I've had that same thought many times?
It looks like a giant slug. I hate it when people refer to that as a "renovation". It wasn't. They tore down everything but the columns and built a completely different stadium in the empty space. A "renovation" would have rebuilt the stands exactly the way they were, like Wrigley Field.
Your upset with the removal of Tal's Hill? Seriously??? That stupid thing should have never been permitted int the first place.
Also imagine hitting a ball 430 ft and have it be caught
It was great. It was like parks back around the 1900s.... they had weird crap like that in it. I loved it.
I liked watching players run up it trying to catch the ball.
@@brothaman007 Noboy had a hill that was that steep. IT was stupid and a safety hazard. YOu must think a player getting injured is great.
@@chriskay1449 players have been running into walls and getting hurt for years. We better remove those as well.
What about mt Davis in the coliseum?
Oh yeah. That was pretty horrible. I get they were trying to bring back the Raiders (how did that go for them?) but was it really necessary to build so ugly? Now the A's are marking time in a horrible facility with seats they have no use for and which block the view of the Oakland hills that made it bearable back in the Billy Ball era
The monument to Al Davis that Al Davis told them to build.......
Tal's Hill was a safety hazard plain and simple, its a literal hill that you have to adjust to while fielding a ball and a pole in the middle. better to be safe than sorry and I really don't get the whole soft thing with you, I used to play in a field with a hill down left field and the poles were inside of the field and almost every week someone would run into the poles and would always have to leave the game and players would often trip on the hill and twist their ankles. hills on what should be a flat playing surface is not a feature my guy.
Since I live in the Bay Area, Oracle park in the past 23 years along with China Basin and Mission Bay area made a lot of changes. The center field batter's eye area used to be just a grassy area until the 2010s. The issue I don't like is you have to have a season club membership to view the bullpen area. The Giants ownership also put a live arcade area to enhance the fan experience only available to the members. They also put more restrictions on people trying to sit at empty seats in the left field bleachers because a view reserved ticket cost cheaper than the left field bleachers.
I think the moving of the LF wall at Camden Yards is a good thing. Maybe they should have moved it back less, but the new dimensions are definitely better than the other old ones imo.
What they did to Oracle Park is horrible imo.
Removing Tal's Hill is bad, but no worse than moving the walls in at Comerica Park.
Stadium architects around the world should be watching your content
On what not to do lol
no they shouldnt. This dude over reacts to the over reactions
No they shouldn’t…I am one and these videos are awful
It’s not the architects issue they are just doing their job, it’s the teams owners that should be blamed
@@Rebel-eq7ul Yeah, that is wrong.
An owner simply gives them an idea, the archtitects implement them
Small example that bums me out is Indiana Farmers Coliseum. The old barn used to have so much history displayed around the seating bowl. Now it’s all ads and historical references are confined to the lobby.
How the hell did they not bring the Wayne Gretzky banner back? Hasek played in Indy as well, he surely deserves a reference
Tal's Hill was awesome. Not having a flagpole in play makes sense. But the hill was sick.
As for San Francisco, the Garden is silly, but they do grow some stuff that's used for stadium concessions, and the bar out there is popular. I hate not having bullpens in play, though. I like being able to see who's warming up.
We can thank Mac Williamson for eating it on the old bullpen then suing the Giants for negligence resulting in the pen going to the outfield.
Agreed, the garden and bar out there is a good spot. Aside from sustainability they do a lot with local youth programs.
I kinda like Oracle Park renovation. From a visitor.
The perfect bullpen is in Fenway Park, behind the wall where it belongs.
Ohio does not have limited sunlight. It gets pretty sunny there.
The Guardians/ Indians stadium is supposed to do renovations in 2024-2025 that will basically make it Coores Field
SOFI has the drinking rails all around several levels. PERCO Park had moved their fences in years ago. I think the dimensions were actually messing with Padres players heads.
Bro doesn’t know the benefits of solar panels
Old Yankee Stadiums renovation in the 70’s was pretty bad
What was changed?
@@fantasticvoyage262 Lots of things were changed in the 1973-74 Yankee Stadium renovation. Field dimensions, upper deck layout, removal of support posts, removal of the iconic copper frieze at the top of the stadium. Too much to describe here, so look it up - there are a lot of websites which show this.
@@fantasticvoyage262it was pretty much completely new ballpark
As an Astros fan I think that center field renovation actually made mmp look better
You are correct and more people hang out there come to the games just to be in that area the two bars did help that area
Safety first.
No
As Astro fan I think it not better
That was nothing but a terrible injury waiting to happen
I too actually like the homerun sculpture at loandepot.
I've noticed the Dolans tend to change the layout and capacity of progressive field based on how the team is doing(the biggest predictor of attendance). I'm not surprised they're putting a bar in the upper deck of the stadium next year seeing as the team is on its way up and has the majority of its core locked down long term.
i didn't think any football Stadum renovation be beany worst than Chicago's Solders Feild. No wonder the bears want to get the heck out of town
As a diehard Houston Astros fan, I always thought Tal's Hill was dumb and unnecessary. I'm glad the Astros got rid of it.
Way to go Orioles. Imagine having season tickets and having your seats removed !
Renovations that made stadiums worse:
every renovation for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil. Massively overpiced, kicked the average fan out for a bunch of hipsters.
10:40 “If you go to a baseball stadium, there’s a 50/50 chance you will wind up an alcoholic.” Fenway in a nutshell…
How about "Schaefer" Stadium in Foxboro? Fans got so nasty the town banned Monday night games for a few years.
“Stadiums That Look Nothing Like The Renderings”
“Stadium Renovations That Look Nothing Like The Renderings”
There’s two video ideas up your alley that I’d watch
I liked the Marlins funky sculpture and fish tanks too. They added character. It should have been left alone.
Camden Yards did the retro style parks right and even though it's the era that we're going to see more contemporary parks, seating capacities at 30,000-35,000 is going to be the norm. Oracle Park in San Francisco really enhanced the standing room experience in the 2000s, with even the non baseball parks, open concourses to see the action everywhere in the park is the new norm.
IMHO, Camden Yards should have instead removed seating in LF altogether and built a social spot with "on-the-field" views protected by a wired fencing.
Literally have a Green Monster raised to the middle deck premium seats
Regarding Oriole Park, do you not understand how slopes work? If you cut back into the LF stands, the remaining rows will be higher up (and therefore the outfield wall higher) because the rows that had sloped down towards the field just got cut out.
I thought the same thing.... were they supposed to have a wall that was 5-7 feet below where the stands are and the fans not be able to get right up to the wall? The jays learned that you have to have the fans right up to the wall. The moat thing was stupid.
this video is so bad, everything is a feature to the guy and he doesn't understand the benefits of the changes
Mount Davis
Washington how are steel beams with nothing standing room only? Is there a net looking at it only see beams and air. Could be a net just can''t see it
Oracle Park Triples alley is still there. The Garden was their 4 years before the bullpens were installed in CF.
The removal of seats was only 300 CF bleacher seats. Every cheap seat in baseball is being reduced or removed with higher priced options added.
Oriole park I understand why they also raised it, of course because it was easier to do that than to rework seating too, but they should have realized that raising it would have that effect and only have moved it about 2/3 or half the distance back to truly count for both
On the bright side, Oriole Park can now host a proper football field.
Empty seats r better than what they ve done to fedex
Mt USC is the worst
I hope for Washington's sake they build a new stadium on the footprint of RFK.
Why? The Nationals have a new stadium and the Redskins have a relatively new one too.
Depressed, I never liked the crazy high seats either
It's QUIRK not CORK man! LOL the growing of lettuce is like the whole urban gardening trend, SanFran has always been forward-thinking.
This guy is the absolute worst! Solar panels won't work in Ohio? I have 19 on my house in CT and I've generated way more than I've used in the 4 years since.
In Baltimore, it's so much better for the Orioles. I both agree and disagree with Ginger. It's crazy difficult now to homer left field. The problem was that pitchers in the past would shy away from coming to Baltimore. Now that the Orioles are winning left field is the way of the land 🫡
Painting the fences of the Marlins Park from lime green to dark blue was dissapointing.
Basically, every renovations they're making "for the fan experience" are for the people who are not interested in watch the game because don't like it.
Comerica Park (Detroit) renovation is a joke. The organization moved the center and right center field in by 10 feet and removed the out of town scoreboard from the right center field wall to replace it with a 7 foot tall padding, its an ugly high school friendly hitters park now.
I love these stadiums vids.
Drink rails? I can only afford 1 drink when I go to my 1 baseball game a year. Who consumes multiple beers at a baseball game at 10 bucks a pop?
Why are you talking about solar panels not knowing how they work? Solar panels get enough sun even with clouds to provide energy. And I hate the solar movement
Тal's Hill would still be there, if Houston hadn't have moved to the AL. But nobody whines and snivels quite like AL fans and media, so it was taken out.
Tal's hill was a terrible injury waiting to happen. Its not soft, its smart. It looks better now anyway
I was good with OPACY moving the fence back but agreed it stinks they raised the fence. One of the best parts of the early days of Camden Yards was watching Mike Devereaux and Brady Anderson rob would-be HRs. Devo had one of the best vertical leaps in MLB history but even he would have trouble robbing a HR from the LF way at Camden Yards these days.
lol @ the overreaction to what he perceived as an overreaction.
Calm down, let a few of these places play out, like Camden Yards. Sheesh.
The Stadiums look a lot worse after the renovations.
The first two teams also changed their team names and not for the better as well.
I wish we could’ve seen Yordan’s Game 6 home run with Tal’s Hill in play
Wasn't it 450 dead center? It still would have been an easy home run with Tal's Hill lmao
@@Shizkillshadow2 no doubt, just would’ve made it even more epic. Of course, there’s a chance it hits off the flagpole 😂
what you think of dodger stadium renovations?
Thank God you don’t design stadiums.
The whole marlins Stadium rant had me laughing
“The aquarium was futuristic” XD
Also, “taking away the fun-ness of the stadium”
Doesn’t having a wall further back make the park standout?
Man predicted the As moving
i dont know if the astros one made it worse
Tal's Hill was such an ugly an unnecessary feature that I'm glad it's gone.
Please state the citys for each park.
Ok but why are you yelling?
lfmao
So Mount Davis?
like the old colors at marlins park , aquarium remove was not the only sin .also count the clevelander pool and dont agree 100% with fence move in. i read marlins attendance down cause of the moves.
i bet you can find image where you see miami sky line better with sculpture when comparing .
plus i like the old grass look also
Aren't the solar panels the most important in the summer when Cleveland gets plenty of sunlight? In the winter, the stadium won't be in use anyway.
Heads up, influx means things coming in, not changing. Simply "flux" would be better where you used it because flux is the process of movement in both directions.
The left field wall moving back eliminated my season ticket spot and perhaps the rowdiest fan section. I get it like it needed to be moved but by 30 feet? I’m pretty much used to the aesthetic of it now but I sure do miss my seats.
#HaTerrible!
Your speech cadence reminds me of Donald Trump.
That’s why it’s great 👏🏼
@@slicknikko65 drives me crazy.
@@raphael9783 Don’t watch bro it’s alright
@@slicknikko65 that's the unfortunate result. I like his content, I just can't stand his voice. It's right down there with hearing Chris Rock speak.
@@raphael9783 To each their own man
First energy is owned by the browns owner. So like they probably didn't pay for it
The Guardians should of just tore down the whole right field deck and have the area opened.
Imagine the oracle park changes if Barry Bonds was still playing
u mite be the stadium goat bro "that was a sin, none of the fish got harmed or anything"
im surprised they allowed occupance with that stadium as bad as it is
For the Camden one it’s not that hard if you’re Stanton 😂
I’m so clueless. I attend a few Giants games each season and I had no idea this renovation happened, nor have I batted an eye to the now seemingly obvious changes.😅
I do like that the bullpens aren't in the field of play anymore.
if they are not growing peanuts in that garden, it's a waste.
I wish the Washington NFL Franchise would be bought by somebody else, and in turn, that new owner change the name of the Washington franchise back to REDSKINS
(i’m sorry ik i’m being that guy) you’ll get your owner, but that name change isn’t happening.
Yeah but they would still suck
Soler panels in Cleveland huh, what do the guardians know that we dont
0:43 Should've been called the Washington Warriors
The Libs wouldn’t allow it I remember Jim Rome having a take on it. “Warriors” is still *InSeNsItIvE* said no Native American ever.
Yeah, sadly the high school name for sports in my hometown is the Warriors and they're trying to get a petition to change the name. Dumb.
I open TH-cam each day and check out the recommendations for the day. I see all these video about stadiums listed. I'm wondering.....who gives a rats ass about stadiums?
The team
Me. I'm a weird nerd for stadium architecture.
I do for football and baseball stadiums. Especially baseball cause a good stadium will draw in crowds. I live in Colorado Rockies are usually a bad team Coors Field does well in attendance.
Sports fans. Skip over it if you don't want to watch it.
“Id they’re going to put up solar panels it should be in africa”💀