Hurricane Helene: Mass Florida Exodus Coming
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- Hurricane Helene is set to reshape the Florida Housing market. As we look at the devastation caused by massive storm surge in Punta Gorda, we have to question if this will cause even more homeowners to flee the state?
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I wouldn't live in that swamp even if they were giving homes away.
As a resident of Punta Gorda there is another important factor you may not know about and that was the raw sewage that was coming out of the toilets, showers/tubs with up to 4 feet of water of flooding. The pumping system failed when the power was still on and the city/county are trying to cover this catastrophic failure up blaming the storm and power outage..People are getting sick from cleaning up biohazzard "sludge"without proper attire and the city/county haven't even warned about the toxicity of exposure
I mean, isn't this kind of what you voted for with DeSantis?
@Freerider93 no... DeSantis didn't have storm drains systems put it.... they were already there... DeSantis has nothing to do with county infrastructure.
@@Freerider93 Yeah sure kid, just like the only guy who wasn't in political office for decades suddenly was responsible for all the problems that well over a million other government officials who took the pay and benefits for decades caused.
@@ChillWill-q5x Republicans have been in control during that whole time though so....DO THE MATH KID!
Desantis caused the insurance mess.
Florida is becoming unaffordable, uninhabitable and unsafe.
So let's move to Detroit, just learn to duck!
Do not denigrate Detroit 😡 If anyone deserves ridicule it's these greedy Floridian a$$hats @@tonyburzio4107
@@tonyburzio4107 😂
Damn that Putin
@@tonyburzio4107There are 49 other states it doesn’t have to be Detroit. There is good living beyond Florida. Stop acting like it is not
Decades ago we all had nice little houses, jobs, money for food, and the kids played outside. The economy was local and life was stable. Taxes cost me $800 per year in 1990.
Thank Ron DeSantis.....
@@Freerider93 40 years of stagnating wages and disappearing benefits probably had more to do with it. Ron doesn't really run the state anyways but his friends do and I probably don't have to tell you what kind of people they are. Problem is Democrats have the same kind of friends so your not voting your way out of this.
Finally, another Florida disaster that isn't the product of Rick Scott, DeSantis, and other elements of Charles Koch's billion dollar bribed Republican Kleptocracy of SCOTUS Citizens United Decision of January 21, 2010, explained by 1977 to 1981 POTUS Jimmy Carter as legalization of bribery in 2010. Unless you think global warming contributed, then it is a result of Charles Koch's billion dollar bribed Republican Kleptocracy
DeSantis destroyed Florida
@@martinmurphy4852 So is it OK to receive government handouts in this situation? Some would consider that Socialism and wrongly and laughably Communism (huge difference), or should people just pull themselves up by their bootstraps? Perhaps insurance should pay for everything? And if you couldn't get or afford insurance, then that should tell you something. The risk is too high, therefore it's at the homeowners risk, and no-one else's. Should the taxpayer be asked to bailout those who knowingly lived in a Swamp and on sandbanks?
I agree about people leaving even if they had no damage. We left Naples after Hurricane Ian although we were lucky & suffered no damage. We figured that we had dodged enough bullets & that God was telling us something when we had 155 mph sustained winds with 190 mph gusts & the eye only 40 miles away & had no damage. That good luck in Ian probably exhausted our supply of good fortune. Still Naples was a wonderful place to live, until it wasn’t.
sort of like going to Disney during the recession, no line. now forget about it
Agree
I’m sorry you had to make a decision like that, easy as it is from the outside to say that’s ‘smart’, I appreciate from the inside of a choice like that is very, very difficult, no matter one’s income level.
Glad you had the choice to leave with your assets and not because your home and business was erased by a hurricane.🫤
did you sell your home or demolish it? Was god saying for you all to leave but the next home owners were ok to take the damage. I don't mean to be smart, I just am always curious with the signs from god and luck and all of that and how that reflects on other people that do get the damage.
Naples was back on line in less than a year.
I was already considering leaving even before Helene. I moved from South Florida to North Florida. And now I'm considering moving completely out of the state.
Ilando and a few other places you can find on Google to be hurricane less in Florida dont let a hurricane or 3 Greek you weathers bad all over
Move to Charleston, where downtown storm surge was 3 feet higher during Hugo than what was shown in this vid. You'll love it!
Bye!
Me too!!!!!
The whole south east is not safe due to climate change
Used to be you traded hurricanes and low wages for cheap houses and rentals. Fun times . Now since its been bulldozed and overbuilt lately it's not as tropical and doesn't seem like Florida anymore
Still not far from those beautiful beaches. That’s the main draw.
@@GillAgainsIsland12the beaches are getting destroyed. Look up the pollution levels.
It's climate change stupid! Florida will see more and more hurricanes every year. Period.
@@Eastwing74 that's a bullshit lie
@@Eastwing74Tampa Bay is a cesspool
I have lived in Bradenton for 40 years. I can not afford to live here anymore but what is worse is that I can not afford to move...
This will be disaster capitalism and nobody will remember the damage in 5 yrs. Keys were rebuilt after Irma and you couldn't tell there was any storm here.
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That’s the sad thing that not everyone can live.
The question is WHERE do you move to ?
@@Maddie9185 I think that this is how so many people become homeless. One doesn't have to be a drug addict for it to happen, freakin scary.
I left two years ago armed with a list of over 70s reasons (traffic, overpopulation, loss of farmland, dumping radioactive poison in Tampa Bay, etc.). Never looked back. Still sad for friends whose homes will be condemned as a result of this.
Loved living in south Fort Myers for 10 years. Just a 15 minute drive from FM beach. After retiring in mid 2022, Ian hit. We came out OK but so much destruction all around. The beach so beaten up. We decided to sell in spring 2023 and return to family in the Midwest. Why? We knew all costs would explode further, and home values could sink, so we sold at a great time. Know Punta Gorda well, appreciate your videos. If I had it to do over, would move inland further and just accept the longer drive to a beach.
Im 56 years old and have been reading climate change modelling for decades. Never understood why anyone would live there.
We sold recently after 18 yrs in SWFL. When we moved to the area of Punta Gorda it was a quiet small town with lots of character, friendly folks, low taxes, no traffic jams, no wait lines, and cheap insurance for living in paradise. That all changed over the last 6 years.... and Ian was a wakeup call that the "Inconvenient Truth" was upon us.....Its no longer paradise! We are grateful that we got out at the height of the home market and found another paradise! These more violent storms and insurance costs will only get worse as time goes on.
Where is your new paradise?
Opening a mold removal and remediation repair company seems like a great idea 💡
Florida hasn't been worth it for 30 years
i spent 6 months commuting Boston to Miami to do a project in an oceanfront office building where they had to use Bobcats to push every last thing out the windows into dumpsters after Andrew. Many of the client employees I worked with there, had flipped many properties after the storm and during the recovery. To the point where they were more focused on real estate than the corporate projects they were doing, which is why vendors/consultants like me were brought in.
What happens after a hurricane, is that the average homeowner is destroyed, and the average well-off speculator makes a killing for the next year or two, buying up distressed properties for next to nothing, and flipping them quickly to more distant speculators, who wait for construction crews to become available many months later, and then flip them again.
Hurricanes are just one more mechanism for the rich to get richer, if they haven't put all their money into their own real estate there already. Those who could yank 100K out of Fidelity a few times per year to gamble with, mostly did well, then their speculation and flipping funded itself..
Former lifelong Bradenton resident here. I've never seen Anna Maria Island decimated like this. I know so many people whose homes flooded. The anxiety of prepping for storms in the last 10 years was frequent enough for me to leave the state. My family and friends are still there, so I can never really "escape" it, but I'm relieved I'm out.
Well from what I hear people are controlling the weather 🤦🏼♀️
There’s a pattern here. People from central and South America leaving, a significant number due to farming problems from a drying climate. Devastating storms in the southeast of the US. Overwhelming heat in the southwest of the US. Periodic drout and fires in California. Increasing tornados in the midwest. 30 years from now, a lot of people will have migrated into more northern US states.
Yes, but what about cold & snow there. That's too extreme as well.
@@GCPCA-p5b I most areas there is far less snow than there used to be. The winters are also warmer. The polar jet stream has become unstable, so it wobbles now. This also creates weird weather patterns that can draw very cold air down from the arctic for periods, but also draw very warm air up into the arctic. The polar ice is melting at epic rates.
It is interesting to note that many of the comments don't mention Climate Change, even though it affects insurance and flooding. At least the Weather Channel talks about Global Warming, but most of the media does not even talk about it. My worry is that the Western United States will face more droughts, it is very unfortunate.
How dare you mention that this is part of a wider trend.
@@GCPCA-p5bdepends on where up north you go. I’m in RI, the winters can be very cold but you adjust to the lifestyle that goes with winter in New England towns. If you have a couple of sources for heating your home & you know enough to “stock up for winter” on foods, paper goods ,water & fill gas cans, you actually enjoy the calmer pace of winter . I could not bear the heat & humidity of Florida. I guess it depends on what you get use to.
Your 💯 percent Ben on your analysis of the risk/reward not being worth it anymore due to the high cost of housing and insurance crisis. Unless something changes dramatically, retirees like myself will either stay put, or find some other place. Thanks for the breakdown.👍
Ben thanks for throwing it out there to support your hometown businesses. Keep Florida in your prayers folks and lots of Floridians have homes in the Appalachian states and its devastating up here.
People who think there are no floods inland, there are more, just less salt.
And sinkholes 🕳️
Living in Florida, when it comes to disaster there's no where to run and hide, you might as well face it head on.
I live northeast of Orlando on the intracoastal. During Hurricane Ian, I didn't flood. Orlando, Sanford and Astor did.
My 1979 house has never flooded because I ripped out the original cabinets and baseboards.
Really depends were you live. I live in desoto county at 60ft no flooding here, down next to the river sure.
I will just rent... No headaches then...
Long overdue! 1960 population about 5 million, now 24 million.
It's gonna be nothing but black mold in every one of those buildings.
Termites have packed and ready to move in 🐜 💼
Not the first time those building and homes have flooded
@@JudyZimShadHomesteader Mold factories !
I saw that
Black mold needs complete darkness to grow…this is why the drywall has to be torn out.
Two minutes into your video and it looks much more cleaned up than I expected it to be.
Ben again, I am so glad that you and your family were left unscathed.
As for your video, I think you are 100% right on and your timing is perfect.
I am having serious thoughts myself, and I love it here.
Keep it up, buddy.
I appreciate that!
Good evening Ben, holy cow you're spot on! My primary residence is in Northville MI. The other day I struck up a conversation with some folks who parked away the congestion area at Home Depot as I also do. These folks had a Tesla with FL plates, Nevertheless, I asked how was the drive up to MI was with your Tesla. Well, the Tesla was transported via car carrier to Michigan from Venice FL. They were fed up and had it with the conditions in FL and are moving back to Northville MI after 8 years in FL. I mentioned that we just rent for a month in FL and decided to stay in Northville. I have to believe we will see more retired folks following the same pattern. Keep up the great content!
I think i was in a mental institution in northeville
Yeah man, I almost moved to Fla in the 80's, so glad I decided to stay here in Michigan. Got a nice place here in Livonia, country sub with deer, with a shopping corridor just a mile away!
After 47 years in MI, my wife and I moved out. The state is turning into a blue wasteland and we had enough of that. When the government issues asinine edicts such as you can't buy seeds but you can buy anything else in the store, it's time to leave. I got tired of living in a dictatorship.
I love Florida. Can’t beat the sunshine year round, imo. To each his own.
@@pzdf8v 100%
Such a horrible disaster to the entire area up to TN, GA and SC! Keeping you all in prayer!!🙏🙏🙏After traveling through the area all last year, supporting the remaining people and businesses recovering from Ian, we feel so bad for you all and are donating toward crisis care. 🙏
Great information. Nice to hear honest speak about the real issues.God Bless.Stay Strong.Thank you
Thank you! You too!
Hurricanes have always been a deterrent to living in Florida.
The problem now is the cost of living. Florida is not cheap anymore and wages are not commensurate.
Luckily we live inland, about 60 miles from the coast, but I fear even that won’t save us one day.
Many areas will become uninsurable.
they already are. Lots are just going without insurance. Soon the tax payers will be bailing people out.
@@hallhv01Taxpayers are busy bailing ukraine out.
@@hallhv01Even in the North the storms have been unbelievable, 10 inches of rain over two hours. Two weeks before that we had 6 inches. We had close to 30 trees get blown down not to mention barns that were leveled from the winds. It may be entire areas of the country that start having insurance issues.
Since 2002, you cannot buy homeowners insurance in Florida, only fire insurance. That’s because of all the retirees from NY and NJ who moved down here and put those flimsy manufactured homes near the beach -- to get blown away about every 5 years.
Along the coast sure. Us inland 4+ miles or east of I75 are fine
I lived in Florida 27 years is it worth it? In a word; NO!
Then MOVE!
@@gmdsr1177 Don't move to Michigan, it snows 9 months out of the year, and there's Polar Bears on every corner waiting to eat you alive.
@@JoeCooper-b4t , You must be talking about the UP (the part that sits on Wisconsin). The southern third of the state gets some snow especially the west side (the snow belt). SE Mich is OK. I lived there 39 years before I moved.
Ha. People are lining up to take your place if you leave.
@@pzdf8v Just gaslighting, don't want people to know Michigan is a great place to live 😉. I've lived in SE Michigan all my 67 years 😀👍
The entire west coast of Florida had storm surge. The party is over. This was the final nail in the coffin. Over 273,000 listings today in the State of Florida. Get out now.
I have not seen a single video of a barrier island that was not completely swept by storm surge. Billions of tons of sand moved.
Please, and....thank you! Bye!
Yes Please get out!
Yes a West Coast Coastal storm surge event. Inland just a few miles nothing.
Look at TN and NC. Nowhere near the coast. Catastrophic flooding. Elevation is king
We live in Cape Coral and are eyeing a move to another part of Florida. Agree with what you said
At this point living in Florida is taking a really, really major risk.
Not inland, and not in flood zones.
@@GillAgainsIsland12Inland means nothing at this point. Ashville is plenty far inland.
@@tyronevonchadley Well, inland solves the salt water problem, but there's always risk of rain flooding which is true in every state. For that you need sufficient elevation and run off flow, which is a matter of topography and design.
So those wild pythons are just a myth? And the Iguana issue is just hype for the hunters that post on TH-cam?
Anywhere has its risks.
Great Video Ben. Visited this area and Gulf Coast many times from 🇨🇦. It was always thought of first for a Winter Holiday the last 40 years but sadly no longer. Its only going to continue and get worse with the Storms. Sad to see so many Locals comments of leaving, never saw this before.
Got out in 2022 was in Ian in ft Myers winter condo sold tripled my money now ppl can’t sell where I was even w 40% discounts. Saw the writing on the wall w insurance skyrocketing and condo fees tripling. God bless all affected.
Same here. Lost everything in Ian in Cape Coral. Sold the house and bought a house in KY. Love it here. I do miss the beach, but now I meditate by a waterfall I stumbled across.
Ben: I lived in Southern California and left after 3 fires. Moved to Nashville, had 3 tornadoes in one nite and flooded out in 2010. I drove firefighters into Gatlinburg during those fires. Moved to Central Fl in 2021. I’m not moving. I keep $2500 in case I have to run.
are you sure
Living here in south Florida since 86 and i remember when jeanne and Francis came thru both in less than two weeks apart. There was a mass exodus after that but then years go by without any major storms in the area and new people move here that dont know what its like. Lots of people just a season away of learning that florida has its cost to live in paradise.
I've no idea how you tolerate the extreme heat. I'd not take a FL property if it was given to me for free. I can't tolerate just walking from the car to a building in the summer. Like hell itself! I do like FL in the winter, but only good for a 3 month snow bird situation.
I lived in Florida from the time I was 11 until I was 68 years old happy to be gone from there, a nice place to visit, but not to live there
Everyone moved down to Florida for job opportunities over the last 10-15 years, but they failed to realize mother nature isn't welcoming...
If and when people can't afford the insurance for their homes in flood prone/hurricane areas is if and when they stop living in these places. Personally, I don't see why the taxpayers have to subsidize flood insurance for people who want to live in these areas!
We shouldn't. The haves always try to privatize profits and socialize losses when they screw up.
Because it promotes development which strengthens the overall economy.
@@Freerider93 Also promotes sales of building materials every 4-5 years when people are wiped out by tropical storms/hurricanes.
Because the politicians need the votes from "the people who want to live in those areas".
Watching from Big Sur, California with its dramatic Pacific Ocean 🌊 coast line. My brother moved to Venice, Florida leaving Monterey Bay, California and he had decided to sell his brand new home in Venice to go to back to Carmel, California
Watching from Carmel, CA - before buying a place here four years ago, we were choosing between southern FL and Carmel. Happy that we’ve chosen one of the most beautiful places on earth!
HOW can anyone leave Monterey Bay?!?
Smart move
Cali.......is a democrat shithole state Glad your family has left Florida
But you’re stuck with Newsom. Not worth it.
Lived in Florida from 1976 to 2020. Miserably hot and humid almost year round. Does not even cool down after midnight. Still sticky humid. Horrible weather aside from January and February.
I lived there for 7 years - what you say is 100% true- heat, humidity except in January and February- but that is snow bird season so the place is OVERRUN by people who think they own the place- rude clueless drivers with attitudes!
Honestly, February is my favorite month to visit. No hurricanes, feels great outside, cool in the mornings, mild in the afternoon, things start opening back up after being closed for the season, but it’s still a month or two out from spring break. Perfect time to visit.
Try shoveling snow after a blizzard. Then you'll appreciate Florida much more.
@@GillAgainsIsland12 Who says we have to move where blizzards are? Lol
@@tbc9096 I was thinking that too. Sounds like an "all or nothing" type person. You don't have to choose between a furnace and an igloo; there is an in-between somewhere.
We left Tampa Florida in 22 when you could sell your Home unseen for just name your Price . Between the insane cost of Property Insurance . Along with the explosion of expense's for nearly everything we had had enough . Not to mention having to go through another Hurricane Season . We're in the North West now and loving it .
Really great video. I live in Buffalo, NY and have often thought of relocating to Sarasota but with the recent Hurricanes the past few years, definitely makes me think twice.
Other nice places in the country besides FL
Sarasota has gotten a lot of flooding lately, be careful. Do research before you go there.
It is better to deal with a snowstorm than a hurricane.
@@NerdsWorldNYC I couldn’t agree more👍
@@33gorman Too many people and the natives don’t want anymore, I can’t blame them.
I lived in Florida since 2009. Can’t wait to move out 😅
Moved to FL in 2008 for a job promotion. Lost everything in Ian. Sold the house and bought a nice house in KY. Been loving it ever since.
I used to want to live in Florida when i lived in California. Florida was so fun from 2013 to 2017. I used to go to florida all the time when i was stationed in southern GA. Post 2020 Florida is not very desirable from a real state standpoint in my personal opinion.
Moved to GA last year, I prefer being Florida-adjacent now. Easy to drive down for vacations without having to deal with the storms and the amount it costs to own a property down there.
With insurance 😩
FL will be popular for years to come... with wealthy people. Beyond farming FL has always been for the wealthy. Ya may not consider a retired couple moving from the NE to be wealthy, but by world standards they were. Not infinite wealth so yeah many relative wealthy people move to FL but as the storms, raising seas cause reoccurring damage, increasing insurance costs erode their relative wealth to a level below their ability to live in FL. They sell and move to AL, TX, Phoenix, Las Vegas depending on how much wealth they conserve.
Super wealthy will continue to build there. A bunch of workers will live there too in temp structures.
You are 100% right on your timeline! Around 2017 was when it all started to change! Affordable rent quickly became a thing of the past!.. and the attitude of the people moving down there was also different!
@@waterbug1135Florida used to be the destination of people hitting rock bottom. It was cheap. Until the flippers and investors turned housing into an out of control get rich Ponzi scheme. It will be cheap again
Very true !
I lived in Englewood for 30 years. I’ve never seen flooding like this in Southwest Florida. That’s been happening over the last few years. It just blows my mind. How a hurricane over 100 miles offshore could flood Punta Gorda. This is never happened before something is going on and I can’t figure it out.
I can tell you why. You used to have a lot of vacant land, at least near the west coast. Cutting down foliage and putting up homes greatly decreases the ability of water to dissipate into the ground. Fewer trees and greenery to soak it up.
I had this happen to me in the northeast US when an area 10 miles north that used to be farmland exploded with homes and businesses in a short amount of time. My entire little town flooded. There was a creek barely deep enough for a minnow to swim, and it flooded 30 feet, into everyone’s homes. So many people walked away from their homes.
@@alyross2850 they have over built the coast line. I’m in Perry and three miles inland no water or structural damage ( thank God) we’re in the woods and covered in trees but not too close. It’s going to take a mass exodus in order for things to get back to normal.
My parents are in Boca Royale. We’re estranged however I can’t help but wonder how they made out. Knowing my dad he’s probably over all of it by now.
It’s called the melting ice in the ocean
The Higher ups In Tallahassee are bought and paid for by the Insurance Company. The Governor DeSantis never speaks on the insurance issues.
I’m usually pretty quick to defend a landlord. But jacking up the rent because people are desperate is just sick.
You mean like corporate America and food prices?. Supply and demand is the golden rule, until greed rears its ugly head.
@@buckbenelli8 oh but I thought greed was good, ya know, capitalism and all that, dont get commie now.
Just do what Judge Judy recommends: "If you don't like where you are living, then--MOVE!"
It’s almost as if supply correlates with demand….
I agree totally. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.
Your a good soul Ben. Thanks for the update.
I appreciate that
As a Florida native I have been saying that all the transplants will leave once a big storm comes through. We still have two months of storm season left.
I can see where the smart thing to do is stay and risk getting wiped out…again. Good on ya.
@@mommom3172 If I was moving back to Florida I would definitely be living in the northern part. If you get a huge hurricane moving from Miami up the length of the seaboard, good luck getting out with all that traffic. 23 million people is too much. At least in the north you can get out fairly quick.
I was a Florida transplant 20 years ago. I walked away and never looked back. I visited Florida last fall. I could not believe the traffic. You have way too many people
So sad, I feel so blessed that we were not affected. Thanks for always informing us about what’s happening. I’m glad you’re ok.
Thanks Madeleine! I'm glad you guys are good as well!
People will always need a place to live, period. They should stop buying next to a river or the sea.
Yes. I do not believe all of these people should leave Florida. We do not know if other states have enough space for anyone that plans on leaving the west coast of Florida. Some of these people should move to Central Florida if they want to stay in the state. Traffic is terrible in Osceola County and we desperately need more roads and interchanges with Florida's Turnpike. The only reason why I encourage more people to move there is because Florida transportation planners do not understand how bad traffic is here. Osceola County is growing very rapidly, it is not as rural as it was in the past, and we are the southern Orlando suburbs.
Just found you so I subscribed to your channel. Thank you for your brilliant reporting. People like you bring us the REAL events!!!!
Thanks for making the point about elevation. Insurance is going to drive all construction to elevate. First floor homes in Florida are teardowns regardless of whether they have been damaged by a hurricane.
Not if politicians have anything to do with it. You would have thought Katrina would have taught us a lesson. But Nope.
No, you CANNOT buy homeowner insurance in FL, just fire insurance.
There are still a lot of concrete block houses built on pads. I think those are the leas taffected.
My wife and I were looking to move to the Gulf Coast from California in late '21. By 2022 prices had spiked again, and we decided to buy again in CA. I don't think I would have been emotionally prepared for the 4 major storms. Even if we had bought on relatively high ground, seeing people I care about flooded would have been tough.
Where are they going to go ? The mountains of East Tennessee or North Carolina ? They were destroyed by the hurricane too.
No, that area does not like democrats at all.
Learn some geography america is huge. I live in west Tennessee no issues here. You got arkansas not a lot of natural disasters and they have about the same politics as florida guns and jesus.
Wyoming & Montana is wide open.
Michigan has some AFFORDABLE prices.
@@tr7b410 If you like dreary weather 9 months sometimes 10 months out of the year. no thanks.
How about earthquake west coast or tornado Midwest. Choose where you want to live and leave others alone.
This video hits the nail on the head. For me the costs of living in Florida outweighed the benefits. I got tired of the flooding after every major storm, ripping out the flooring and drywall in my house, the cost of insurance and property taxes. Friends told me that after one summer in Arizona I'd change my mind. Nope. It's been three and a half years and I haven't looked back. I can put up with four months of heat in exchange for great weather the rest of the year.
People are going to move so fast it will blow your mind
People that moved here during covid are coming to terms with Florida’s challenges. Its a great place with a lot to do, but constant heat & humidity with risks of having everything you own swept away by a storm on an annual basis seems to be overlooked. Lots of natives (as there aren’t that many) are leaving and the state is losing a since of identity while they’re being replaced by wealthy investors or people trying to leave other states that are trying to look for a better life and they think Florida is the best fit. Now they are realizing its not what it’s cracked up to be…
This video will age well
I am re-thinking my move to South Florida. I may continue to stay in NJ and rent in Fla from Jan - Mar
I left the south last year. Moved all the way to the opposite side of the states in the PNW. It’s freaking beautiful here. The climate is nice. It rains in winter,it’s sunny and warm in summer. There is hiking up a mountain, and stargazing under completely dark skies where you can feel and see the universe. When you exercise, the sweat evaporates from your body. And everyone out here, for the most part, minds their own damn business.
Inventory “constricting” down there?! Up here in Tampa Bay, the inventory is absolutely exploding. My zip has over 5 times the number of listings compared to the Covid lows, and 20% more than pre-Covid. I bet there will be over 500 before the end of the year. Many people are selling as-is with water damage and walking away. It’s an absolute disaster in St Pete’s waterfront.
We inherited a “villa” in Boynton Beach in April 2024 and promptly sold it!
lets be honest it is because of your love of money ....greed made you cash it in........and had nothing to do with the weather
@@jeffb3487 Inherit something you can't use? Sell it. That's how auction houses run. Trade it in for the best cash is common sense.
It must be crazy humid with all that water evaporating
I think it has sunk in or jolted us into the new reality. This is how its gonna be in Florida now.
for Tampa Bay as example, it barely sprinkled, not hit by hurricane yet 8' underwater due to tsunami surge, pushed all the way across the Gulf of Mexico sailing past, not hitting Florida at 142 miles out to sea..
and that was a drive by to Perry/Tallahassee---142 miles out to sea and a dozen people dead, drowned in their homes. Sobering.
In our area .So many new builds are on slabs in 10 AE flood zones. No new home should be at ground level with those ratings. The cost in SW for insurance doubled last storm.
💯 I’m in Tampa and already contacted a realtor in NC, the deal is no longer here.
Western NC got hit
I am going to move to South Carolina from Florida when I get my opportunity.
Frying pan to fire? So strange you would pick the 2nd most hard hit area.
I moved from CA to Phoenix in part to escape earthquake threats. Thunderstorms is about the only natural threat.
@@NikkiWalters653And 100 days of over 100 degrees.
Buy my house in Hilton Head area. Been safe through storms since 2012.
A Classic Coastal Storm Surge Event , 2ft of seawater in Punta Gorda buildings, 3ft in Siesta buildings, 4 ft in Anna Maria and so on. Very little wind damage with the eye in the Gulf 130 ish miles. Few reports of Fresh Water Inland Flooding from Ft Meyers to the Big Bend. When the Wealthy see an asset in decline they are quick to sell. Florida is not for everyone. On any given day some are ready to move out of FL and some are ready to move to FL. Your Tropical Storm/Hurricane Plan should cover fresh water flooding, Hurricane wind and Saltwater Storm surge with intrusion. Possibly total destruction.
The wealthy are not affected by any of this. My sister lives In Miami Beach at 8 feet above sea level. The ultra wealthy have been buying lots on the water, tearing down the houses, building a 6-8 foot concrete base and building a giant house. They self insure and have no mortgage. The sellers of the properties could not afford the insurance. These ultra wealthy pay no income tax and save millions in state taxes so the new home is effectively built for free. The same thing will ultimately happen everywhere in coastal Florida.
It's been cloudy and rainy for at least a week now in my part of the Northeast. Yes this is because of the storm.
You're seriously complaining about cloudy and rainy while there are tens of thousands of people without homes?
I was living in South Gulf Cove across from Punta Gorda when hurricane Ian hit two years ago, and it was just awful. I was one and done. Sold the house and moved back to Texas...best decision I ever made. Don't miss FL one bit. My heart goes out to these folks...best of luck.
"Is Florida worth it?" I'd say yes, but not on the coasts. Live elsewhere in FL.
definitely no, not worth even going there.
I live on the intracoastal. I bought my 1979 fixer upper five years ago. My house never flooded because it had all the original cabinets, doors, and baseboards. Just never buy a house that is level to the ground.
@DementiaDon The Villages (TV) has a top-notch flooding mitigation system for the ~57 square miles it covers, and maybe the best system in the state. Were I moving to FL, I'd be looking for an active 55+ community, and TV is the most likely one (if not OTOW or Del Webb Stone Creek, not far from TV). Not worried about flooding there.
-- BR
Most of Florida is only a few feet above sea level.
@DementiaDon Well, I do -- I stayed in Galveston (TX) for Hurricane Ike...pretty serious aftermath there and I did fine (for several reasons it was easier for me to experience than my neighbors). Whatever, I have to repeat I wouldn't worry if I lived in The Villages...well, okay, maybe I would if the storm claimed my golf-car. Thanks,
-- BR
I currently own a house in Central FL. And honestly, after Milton is done, I am seriously thinking of fire selling the house, and get the hell away from FL. Sure, jobs are plenty, but always having the Sword of Cane-ocles dangling above your head every-other damned summer gets to a point where it's just not worth it.
When I was a kid in the late 60s and the 70s, those who had beach houses owned old ranch houses and clapboard or concrete structures. They would move their old furniture to their beach houses. You didn't see high rises, condos, gated neighborhoods and million dollar homes except maybe in Miami or South Beach. Everyone knew that it could all go away with the next storm. That changed in the 80s and 90s. I have to wonder if Florida will go back to modest houses etc. Certainly those who want to part with their money will all build on stilts.
How does people get house insurance when its a guarantee to be flooded? What a terrific predicament.
Thank God! I can't wait to have Florida for Floridians again.
You are absolutely correct. When we paid $80K cash for a home and our insurance was $700 per year, it was worth it. Now? No way! The beaches and beach towns are trashed and people paid $1.2M.
OUR FAMILY HAS LIVED IN FLORIDA SINCE 1956 (originally Midwest ex-Navy). Since about 2020, the population in Florida has exploded - along with the price of housing. Our adult sons, both born in Florida, can NOT afford to buy their own homes - thanks to high prices, high down payments, and high income requirements. AND did I mention that minimum wage here is just $13./hour ? LOL - that's "slave wages" - just enough to get by if you have 2 or more jobs - and rent a place with a roommate !
Price of housing exploded everywhere, thanks to the executive orders Biden signed on the afternoon of the inauguration. Research it.
New York prices, Alabama wages. We're retired and comfortable, but a lot of younger people we talk to need to work two jobs, just to make ends meet. If I was young and starting out, I'd move where real estate was affordable and the job market was decent.
@@markrichards6863 And where is that? At the risk of getting into politics, inflation is always through the roof EVERYWHERE when Democrats are in office. I'm 80, so I've watched this a long time. WIth a master's degree in math, I still worked a fulltime and 2 part time jobs when my children were growing up. Having more than one job isn't new. Slowing inflation (slowing govt spending) is the key to being able to afford to eat. It's expensive everywhere right now. There is no cheap place to live any more. Best wishes.
@@kathyyoung1774 Pittsburgh would be my first choice, affordable, extremely underrated. Pitt has great, museums, sports culture, and food scene. It's a beautiful city, that really punches above it's weight. I have lived most of my life in NYC and Boston for most of my life. Pittsburgh is impressive and affordable. My second choice would be Columbus, followed by Cincinnati and Indianapolis. If you prefer a really big city, Chicago is amazing gets a bad rap. Most of Chicago is safe. Housing is a lot cheaper than it is here, in south Florida, in any of those places.
You’re 100 percent right on all the above
The insurance is the final nail in the coffin. I'm planning on getting out sometime next yr.
it's interesting to see.... we learned about environmental refugees in the 90s and what was coming. Fascinating to see it now playing out!
Insurance is about to DOUBLE.
Most of Jacksonville does not get the flooding or direct hits like south and west of here.
Awesome!!!!!
I am a seventh generation native and there are too many people here anyhow. We are a resilient people! Those of us who have been here for generations will survive without a 22 million population.
Please take Orlando, all of the tourist and theme parks with you
We will survive on our 932 acres. Don’t need the tourist to do it.
Yes , we natives agree !
Agreed
Unfortunately it will be underwater. Global warming is teal slot of immigrants ate climate refugees.
❤Ben here in Lee county Pine Island glad you did okay. Many people flooded out this time instead of blown down.
Great video, Ben. I think you’re right. Anyone not fully invested in the Florida coast lifestyle, including devastating weather, will leave or decide not to buy. I think that’s a good thing. I don’t mind if my house drops 50% in price if it means going back to how things were 20 years ago and I can get a parking space at the beach during season again.
Good and honest assessment of the value proposition for people looking to move south. Good luck on the recovery…I was hit by Sandy at the Jersey shore and know it takes time. Thanks for posting the video.
@@Brian-Isely thank you. I was in NYC for Sandy. Crazy times.
You build by the beach, you pay the price.
No, WE pay the price. You think nationwide insurance companies aren't going to gouge ALL of their customers to help cover these losses in Florida? They're already doing it. They'll just end up doing it MORE and MORE. Whatever it takes for them to maintain profit levels.
Interior gets hits, too. Direct home damage from winds, flooding, and damage to homes from trees and debris. But, yes…the coasts are worse.
Thank you for this video !!!
What was interesting on the video I saw from Cedar Key was the fact only houses on stilts built to the new standards survived. I left after Ian. If I ever move back it will have to be a new house or trailer built to new standards. Anything less is a death trap.
I been to CJs .. nothing like a cold beer on a hot day .
Florida is not worth it anymore. Not cheap as it once was.
What area is? Inflation in the past 3 years caused food prices to go up nearly 40%, fuel to double, etc.
It’s pretty cheap I pay 400 a year for a 350k house in an x flood zone, my taxes are capped at 3% increase with the homestead, no income tax, great 99% of the time etc
@rdee7406 homestead is great. Anyone moving there now won't be getting that advantage 😁
For our foreign friends: This is one of the most intensely "developed" areas in the country. You can drive a square of the storm zone, literally all day, up the coast, across the state, halfway down the coast, back across, and back up the coast, and be in an incorporated town 95% off the time. It is one titanic strip mall/housing development.
Yes, really. There are stretches of Central Florida where you can drive for 9hrs and never be out of urbanization for more than ten minutes before you're back into the megalopolis. The death toll and damage from this storm is going to be enormous.
i hope you are right and lots of people leave we are to crowded and need to have less people living here . dont build on low ground and build to a hurricane code
I work in Wellen Park. Fortunately, there has not been any damage from either storm this year. Wellen Park is approximately 8 miles from Manasota Beach. The new building codes make a big difference. I am sorry for all the folks who have been affected everywhere. Very sad
I just don’t understand why people have to live on the coastline in Florida? Is the weather THAT great that they go through a hurricane several times a year and have to deal with the insurance company, rebuild and then possibly get hit again, I think that it would get very tiresome!!!!
Have you seen the central cities? There's no work outside Orlando. The food options? The absurd housing prices to be inland by a Sebring or Orlando? Who retires to go there?
I can't afford to own anything other than a crappy car so I don't have anything to lose in a hurricane.
I lived in Orlando 2008 to 2011. It was marvelous to visit the beach, to Daytona, Cocoa, Titusville. The way the clouds looked, the ocean and sand, the palm trees and tropical plants. I really like that! Also, seeing rocket launches from 22 miles away. But hated the nonstop warmth and humidity. Having temperature and relative humidity both be about 90 is no fun. It felt like right after getting out of the shower, except it never went away. Couldn't sleep at night. Now I'm in rural Montana where one December I woke up to an outdoor thermometer reading -30°F which is just fine by me!
It is MAGA logic😅
@@stayready4funthere’s plenty of work outside Orlando. Farmers need help picking oranges strawberries blueberries squash zucchini tomatoes etc…really make America great again and work in agriculture 🇺🇸😊
I agree, people of a retirement age or older will not want to have to spend years of their lives & thousands of their retirement money on repairing/replacing Homes & Vehicles. Even Southern states like Georgia, Tennessee, Louisiana, and the Carolinas are not safe from a Hurricane's wrath( as Katrina & Helene have shown).
Exactly! That's why il be leaving Ga soon. Maine's beginning to look very, very good. Il take my chances with the snow.
I can see snowbirds having a lifestyle where they go to Florida in the winter and leave in the hurricane season.
Then they can go home.
Love you content and have honesty
People want to live in a swampland and then are surprised when it floods
Insurance companies are not going to cover all that and more of them will leave the state and it will get to the point where insurance is too expensive or you can't even get insurance . You can't get a mortgage on anything if you can't get insurance . So the real estate will be worth absolutely nothing ! It will become uninhabitable .
i DROPPED MY HOME INSURANCE-just caN'T AFFORD IT. I'M RETIRED.
Don’t buy on the water. Problem solved.
Most of the damage is not covered under homeowners insurance. Most is this will be covered under the national flood insurance program if they carried it.
Soo sad to see the destruction from Hurricane Helene! I am a Florida native having lived most of my life (with the exception of a decade lived in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia) and now back in Broward County. I was watching Helene’s progress and saw how quickly the storm intensified just before making landfall in the”Big Bend” area….these horrific storms just keep coming! BLESSINGS!
Worth IT when IT is 50% cheaper.
or more, cause then you just self-insure
75% lower or no deal. I want 2010 prices again. Anything more and it’s no deal. With no government intervention into the insurance market to stabilize a potential investment of that magnitude it’s worthless. Right now if you live in Florida you’re a mark in somebody’s game and not your own.
but I will bet your the first to crawl to the federal government for disaster relief funds. I mean you people have absolutely no shame. I feel sorry for the native Floridians... the worst of society are the ones that are moving down there.
@@marshallj2415, we don't want you here. So it's a win/win situation 😊
@@davids.9834 We were native Floridians. Still have children in Florida. Why do you people stand up for a government that could care less about you or your security? Ridiculous. We are so much better off in Colorado and SoCal now. As retired Navy we are much more secure out west.
I moved to Florida in 1966 outside of Tampa (Brandon) left and went back in 1969 (St. Petersburg) loved it, had a home , also lived aboard a 45 ft. houseboat (which I loved!) then moved to Ft. Myers and lived aboard a Houseboat and left, moved to Georgia and left and moved back to Florida (Deltona/Central Fl.), began to see the winds of change and left to come back to North Georgia in 2016 and realize that was the BEST decision I ever made!!